The Pros & Cons Of The K20 Honda Civic Type R Engine!

This week on Project Prelude, Alex heads to Honda Specialist UK to discuss the Lude's future engine - the awesome K20!
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[@abdelhameedalotaibi3657]

Love the enthusiasm of this guy and the way he like Hondas

[@3rdpartyU5er]

Yeah man, I don't care what car you are passionate for, as long as it makes you happy and you can forget about work and all the shit life throws at you.

[@alper694]

@@3rdpartyU5er fuck work... literally

[@lollol-xp4mc]

@@alper694 so you have intercourse with work?

[@alper694]

@@lollol-xp4mc yeah, it's kinda fun

[@sirjolly81]

I was just thinking the same thing. Wish the guys in my town cared when i come in asking technical questions. most just don't give a sh!t

[@dovahkiin5655]

The mechanic guy clearly knows what he’s doing. I wish i had a guy like that where I’m from

[@mattorama]

I've worked with people like him before. The type of guy who has the solution in his mind already before I even have my brain wrapped around the problem.

[@SnakeyUk08]

Indeed ,type of mechanic everyone needs also his enthusiasm for the project gives you confidence as well

[@Knackebrodz]

I was just going to say the same. I would love to bring my car to this guy and get a tune up. Unfortunately I live in Sweden haha!

[@drtonyvalentich]

Maybe he does... but there has only been one successful k swap in a 3rd gen in the world (fitting it under the bonnet... with atrocious ground clearance). And there is a reason for that... it has a very low hood line... Be interesting to see how he deals with this.

[@John.strong]

Clearly he doesn't Looping the power steering in a 3rd gen will make it aids to drive The steering will be so heavy its not funny The 4ws system basically requires you to have power steering Ive been there, it lasted twise around the block before i knew if had to change And im not a small guy, and never skip arm day so strength isn't an issue

[@adamnmmnm]

Old school retro intro is good btw. c':

[@johneldepresso]

Turányi Ádam [Flamingo Fan Club] sends me back to the friday the 13th days haha

[@daftbence]

Bojler eladó

[@adamnmmnm]

Sokolom, nom koll köszönöm

[@adamnmmnm]

@Tofu Eurobeat dude, i think so too.

[@sammybaker6872]

I've got to say you've nailed the 80's themed prelude music... Well done.

[@ItsFriscoBaby]

The whole intro is a rip of MCM Cresta does drag week

[@alexkersten1964]

@@ItsFriscoBaby I can honestly say that neither Ethan nor I have seen that. We've clearly just had a similar idea

[@ItsFriscoBaby]

@@alexkersten1964 Great minds as they say... You should watch it though, it's great.

[@XBullitt16X]

yeah, I know many of the tracks used, love the selection of songs they chose, awesome music.

[@maddoctor99]

Wind of change gotta love the old synthwave!

[@aidanjohnson6779]

Yess then!! Red k20 powered prelude! Love the videos car throttle learnt so much about cars from you! Keep it up

[@lewisjamie288]

K24

[@aidanjohnson6779]

Car throttle said there putting a k20 in

[@lewisjamie288]

@@aidanjohnson6779 that's dead

[@aidanjohnson6779]

@king Riz IKR! A k24 would’ve been a lot more fun

[@Henrymancio]

This is it car throttle this is what we wanted to see!!! Ahhhhh!!!!! Can't wait to see more of this unique build!

[@JoshuaMarshall]

This is what i need to focus on myself good comment bro its what we're all thinking !

[@theblakeslees7065]

Every time I see the intro for this car I start singing pop up and down headlights from donut media...

[@viveklego]

POP UP UP AND DOWN HEADLIGHTS!

[@filipzivic5429]

BAAHHHHH!!! LIGHTNING! LIGHTNING! LIGHTNING!

[@ramyalabed91]

#buffhorses

[@oshino6596]

Pop up headlights is the best song on the internet

[@jamesshives5679]

Cynical snow What video is that from?

[@ccovnottz]

Check all the parts this guy has used on your car mate!! The KZbinr “it’s a stu” has proven this guy uses/sells Chinese fake parts and charges as if they’re real parts!! Be careful mate!

[@johnbutler9381]

This car will be fitted with the finest FAKE parts known to man AVOID this con artist... car throttle get that car out of there...

[@charltonshimwell9264]

Carry on tell me more

[@blackwolfdavinci575]

What is he talking about?

[@Jon-jc1jf]

Hahaha wow good luck with Lewis, better get those parts checked out

[@motomash6143]

Isn't this the guy who sells fake Honda parts advertised as genuine?? Dodgy guy yano

[@Speedystig]

think this is the real reason they stopped the series:/

[@luisviera3482]

Heard the same shit 🤣🤣🤣 thats y is better to buy the parts directly from the retailer

[@tydontdy3459]

Ummm don't get rid of the power steering... Literally the steering is why you chose to buy this model

[@piergiorgiocestra3833]

Yup

[@alexbar50cal]

The rear steering is mechanical shouldn't effect it

[@antonmealy168]

Agree. 4ws, means it needed PWR Stg. more though.

[@sergeant_cross_]

I would never do that. My daily driver doesn't have power steering and it's shit. Cars that came equipped without power steering usually have a bigger steering wheel and a different gear ratio of the steering gears so you don't have to apply so much force on the steering wheel. But if you just remove the power steering from this car the rest of the steering is not adjusted for mechanical steering so it's probably gonna be a pain to drive. You can easily see that when you drive a modern car with power steering and stall the engine - you need a shit ton of force to move the steering wheel then, a lot more than in a car that wasn't equipped with power steering in the first place.

[@Jonathan_Doe_]

sergeant_cross_ Yeah hopefully they’re gonna change the rack for something with a better ratio, or it’ll be borderline dangerous.

[@0000mte]

Fake parts past off as genuine. Aliexpress king

[@channeltv6595]

I heard this guy sells cheap knock off parts and labels them as his own for top dollar!! And your getting a build from him!!! One lap the cars going to be in pieces

[@rossclegg654]

Be a class swap just Make sure the mounts are those cheap Chinese copies

[@MillerCorner]

6:30 original dials are all well and good, but how COOL would S2000 digital dials look in the Prelude?!

[@ivancocco4822]

That could be awesome,fits the retro vibe.

[@mikkry7525]

It's been done. Does look pretty sick. 5th gen prelude gauges are also done commonly.

[@croatianpetrolmind5396]

but like with blue backlight

[@YurandX]

not cool

[@thegamingshatt4758]

Swapthe whole dash for a 4th gens

[@TheShaq9001]

There are no cons of a K20 duh #Vtec

[@goldmegaman1000]

He must

[@goldmegaman1000]

+

[@ruikazane5123]

Only con I know is they are difficult to break

[@brunomanco7529]

@@ruikazane5123 yeah im dying to try a k24 block but even with alot of track days and 120K miles, the k20 its still alive. I spoil it with frequent oil changes though

[@taymangaming]

I hear the k series tranny is much weaker than the b series though.

[@simonthomas5367]

Now this project just became interesting. Nice one guys!

[@Mcfc2Rich]

HSUK - Honda Scammers UK

[@NeboReve]

Drinking game: take a sip everytime the mechanic says "obviously".

[@barney9008]

*falls over*

[@MatchboxGarage]

Toto is a terrible name for this car

[@Rupperkus]

Jip, i was thinking Pussydestroya3000

[@ts.exotics4583]

But the best name for a song

[@andersjjensen]

I think it's a stab at MCM's TayTay. The 80s intro music certainly has the vibe.

[@JoshuaMarshall]

haha bro you said what we was all thinking !

[@onmytravells9429]

Isn't this guy robbing people off with fake hssport mounts?

[@tomwolstenholme7131]

Onmytravells it is yeah!

[@twentylush]

I love how honda tech's only motivations are 1)It will be the first for himself, and the UK 2)He wants to make it faster than phil for kicks

[@Rupperkus]

Lewis is an absolute beast. It sounds as if this is his 1385th engine swap. Crazy

[@sergiowolfpac]

Dude pictured every scenario by just looking at the damn bay lol

[@Jenkzyx]

Sergio Ruelas he’s being doing it a while. Used to break cars now builds K swaps only one local to me

[@JoshuaMarshall]

wow exactly what you said is what i was thinking haha love this comment, lewis really knows him stuff

[@adamlevy63]

You are most likely going to have to hack up the hood to fit a k20 in. There have only been a handful of k-swapped 3rd gens done and everyone has had to cut the hood and/or ended up with crummy ground clearance. You would be much better off with an h/f series engine for a daily. K20 will definitely be cool, but not practical. See links below: www.preludepower.com/forums/showthread.php?t=434441 www.superstreetonline.com/features/1902-1988-honda-prelude-a-jewel-in-thailand/

[@AndyQuinton]

What is going on with this build??

[@martycrush6412]

Sells fake parts that are dangerous. Shame as you seem to know your stuff. Sort it out Lewis.

[@aizazrehman5153]

I am literally geeking out seeing that place. I am a ek9 owner that's why

[@Crazzycarguy]

Same 😍

[@Deni7s]

I drive a Ford Fiesta (mk5) with a Puma 1.7 VCT engine swap but still get hype when I see a Honda 👌

[@M3rlinTv]

Zetec-SE 1.6 DOHC ? i currently make 120 to the wheels with a tune and a exaust. Maybe go for ITBs next to chase for some more hp. In a Focus Tunier station wagon btw @@Deni7s

[@_Zekken]

I own a DC2 Type R and Im geeking out over that place as well, HNNNNGG

[@SpudEater]

I have an EM2 that I’m thinking about K swapping in the near future, maybe over the winter when I’m driving the wrx.

[@SickWill]

He's not the turbo yoda, but he is the turbo yoda's english vtec cousin

[@jamescoogan8963]

Sick Will I get this reference

[@waseembux7537]

Please bring this series back. Why hasnt has been brought back ? Another supplier, another honda specialist. Cmon car throttle.

[@alexthompson5172]

put a CRV rear end in it and CRV 5 speed manual with a Quaife LSD

[@ironicchannelname6457]

No

[@Litvagopnik]

Go to bed, you child.

[@ironicchannelname6457]

@Scott Hotchkiss i wasn't talking to you pleb

[@thedrvn]

Is this for real I was looking at preludes literally 2 hours ago and thinking about k20 swapping one and just seen this!! Some fucking scary mental suggested/ recommended shit going on there 😫

[@manuellopezej1]

Any updates on the prelude?

[@pearsy85]

Noooo, should have been an H22a7 type r engine!

[@_Zekken]

Thats what Id do, but a K20 is probably much more readily avalible, much more common and easier to work with anyway. People K20 swap literally everything so there are probably way more kits out there to do it cheaper

[@TheBb6prelude]

Armouredfalcon it’s actually the opposite. The H has been out for much longer.

[@_Zekken]

@@TheBb6prelude yeah but the K20 was put in absolutely everything through the 2000s. Whereas I think the H22 was only in the Prelude and the Accord of that gen? Cant remember exactly, will have to google it

[@nickwong3054]

Armouredfalcon it was also in the crv but that one was really crap

[@rhangman8284]

H22's are plenty common, also plenty of such swaps already been done. They weren't sure about mounts for the K20, can just buy them for a H22.

[@Nikoxion]

Why an ABS delete? Why not just fix what's broken? I'm confused.

[@stndmnky8556]

Because Racecar

[@kellsled]

Lighter, shit abs back then, much more options for bigger brakes, more stopping power,bias valve can be installed for driver preference. Have abs out of all my track cars Much more feedback

[@Zadster]

Me too. This is supposed to be an alternative commuter car not a track-only machine, and he is being distracted by a garage who can see some free advertising and a lot of billed time. ABS is a life saver on real roads. Removing it is cock waving.

[@gusgus00001]

@@Zadster i would agree with you if it a was a modern abs system.. But its old and it will probably cost less to replace the brakes with a bigger kit.. Besides shouldn't be worried about locking up if u are looking ahead and know how to brake properly in an emergency💁

[@Nikoxion]

@@gusgus00001 Keep in mind that they could also swap a more modern unit in.

[@Chukwu1967]

Dude! Where's the Prelude

[@JesusMorales-jo4cp]

will being a Prelude enthusiastic myself, I don't like that you went with a K20, I don't know how much experience he has with preludes or preludes of that year, but you can modify the stock engines relatively easy. he will have a lot of trouble putting the K20 in because they don't fit all that great. Height is a big issue and 16 inch wheels alone will not raise the car up enough to not worry about the oil pan making contact with the road. Which means you can't lower the car and if you do it's not much, maybe half to an inch lower. You could have done a B20A/B21A1 hybrid turbo, H22A, H23A, H23A blue top, any F series, or any newer B series engine. Your going to want to keep P/S for that 4 wheel steering ( I know from experience).

[@sotirispa]

This guy knows what he's talking about. Seems like he has the vision and just waits for it to happen, which is good. He has thought about everything, so the build will be well thought out! Just do it!

[@aggelos992]

RIP Andrew ride with paul in heaven

[@GPTV2020]

Love the music and intro sooo 80s. But still waiting for more prelude content whats happening with the progress??

[@madshansen4790]

What is happening? Am waiting 2

[@Official_bigtango]

When this is done , give it to DMO DEEJAY for an hour 🙌👀👀

[@justomarenco9574]

He talks about the engine swap like if it is changing the front wheel of a bicycle

[@JoshuaMarshall]

hahah this guy clearly knows his shit!

[@john_dee1431]

Interesting discussion of how flexible the K20 is. Good video.

[@M3RKANATOR1]

It’s crazy watching this and being a 3rd gen owner Our community has come together lots of times to do group buys cause our cars are not supported whatsoever Visit prelude3g dot com and you’ll see our little community The bastard B’s

[@jirkaciran4061]

I love that guy from HSUK🔥

[@2810Mad]

the mercedes collaboration was fucking stupid honestly, I didn't evne watch it but I'm soo excited for this build.

[@TunedVXR]

So this guy had his first Honda at 15 and over a 100 in the 10 years he been driving so he's 25 🤔 looks more like 35 lol

[@JoshuaMarshall]

thats what dealing with hondas for 10 years does to you bro haha !

[@TunedVXR]

@@JoshuaMarshall haha true that bro

[@colinDS222]

I guess they realized you can’t fit a k20 in that car because the block is too tall so they must have given up on this video series, such a shame

[@steifan]

Excited for this! /BMW & Volvo owner

[@jackcolon4263]

Loved Hondas up until I got in a bmw. Now I’ll never buy a Honda again.

[@xPaulxOx]

If you wanted an "alternative daily" series why would you get a retro Honda and ASK US what do we want to do with it?, of course we want to K swap it!, i'm here for that Vtec yo!

[@Salopiandan]

I wish you carried this on so much.

[@streetracer1600]

That crx and integra are bomb af😍😍

[@Phate2323]

The presenter guy is like the Alan Partridge of the car world.

[@SaumyajitGuha12]

Turbo that to 500 horses, I wanna see that smoke some modern power

[@Stupreme.]

Dying from these comments. Bye bye hsuk 👀 currently known as ‘Honda service and performance’ now still scamming folk

[@gillywash1487]

Oh no! The EP3 your giving away is going to have that prelude engine isn’t it! 🤣

[@jezzasmokin1802]

There are only pros as long as the k20 has oil she’s happy my k20a is on 160,000 mixed Kms and miles and still drives like a beast best 2l na engine ever

[@webweasel4401]

My 3SGTE is on 157k miles (244000 k) and is still as good as ever.

[@lloyd9819]

Loving the CRX! Like seeing a childhood friend after years apart.

[@danbrookes2997]

Happy owner of one for over 7 years. Same model but in silver. Fantastic cars

[@devjock]

Dude, I am loving th ebackground music in this series. You got the retrowave bug, and I'm totally okay with that!

[@1macueliso]

Are you removing the 4-wheel-steering to install the k20?

[@Stu.motive]

4ws not 4wd these are fwd

[@darklight774]

4wd??🤣

[@lukeellard9632]

So I guess this never happened..

[@nunchaks700]

Yes. K20, thanks for listening to us. And no turbos!

[@lukebarker594]

nunchaks700 turbo everything ! Tsu tsu tsu tsu .

[@MatchboxGarage]

Obviously

[@DarkVarda]

The motor looks soo freakin clean

[@sparkz343]

Fresh

[@ch0g0nda1]

This is a challenging swap. The 3rd gen Prelude's B-Series is leaned 18 degrees towards the firewall. Those K-Series are set to 15.5 degrees in the RSX, but that car is taller. It'll be interesting to see how they position everything because the only K 3rd gen I've seen has a hood with a massive bulge to accommodate the intake manifold that doesn't really fit. They said in the video that it would be close to the hood and that they chose a K20 over a K24 with one of the reasons being the block is shorter, but those seem like safe choices and don't mean there's a master plan yet... If they can make it fit without altering the hood that would be incredible.

[@Keirdo69r]

Get it wrapped in the colours of the japan flag 😁

[@MJ-uk6lu]

Just no

[@dkdanis1340]

Don't remove abs.

[@Ashfielder]

*POP UP UP AND DOWN HEADLIGHTS*

[@Afeeq1011]

Pop up up and down headlights Pop up up and down headlights Pop up up and down headlights Pop up up and down headlights Pop up up and down headlights

[@humlhuml8947]

Used to have this car and loved it, by that time i had also e30 M3 sport evo and on a twisty road, where power was not important, prelude was faster than that bmw icon! The car looks great on 17’s with tinted back lights ;)

[@JoshuaMarshall]

i love the look, man what a fortunate car to have owned!

[@thegreens8445]

Honda, Honda, Honda Lets get this comment a like for being a honda

[@acynder1]

Nice gavril marshall avatar bro

[@thegreens8445]

I took a screen shot from BeamJ Do you know him? Im sure you know, coz you know beam Cars

[@SATO_FD2R]

*_My FD2 does NOT APPROVE of the K24_*

[@Jueen_]

Should’ve h22 swapped it

[@wyvernx11]

That's what Honda's do to you mate Let's you forget you liked a other car and now you're a Honda guy😄

[@hondatrix]

Especially after owning a VW, Opel, Nissan, BMW, Mercedes, Toyota, Citroen, Peugeot, Ford, Mazda, Renault, Mitsubishi, Seat, Datsun, JEEP, Kia, Chevrolet, Hyundai, Alfa, Daihatsu, Fiat, Jag, Skoda, Volvo and a Holden... I ran when I saw a Fiat..and own a Porsche too...

[@TheSkyfire117]

Yesss, I recommended Milano Red in the other video. My Accord is that colour and everyone always compliments it. Awesome

[@Forgan_Mreeman]

this is $20,000 worth of work. easy

[@tommywenes6625]

I am but a simple man, I see a Prelude, I press watch Now put the Iconic H22 in that sucker, not a K... BBAlliance TB has mr Cesar Puenta Amog whos done a FANTASTIC job with that swap. Get the best info from the best guys! visit BBAllianceTB Facebookpage!

[@CookieRoxette]

As a former Prelude 4th gen owner (I've since had a 6MPS and now an S5), this video makes me want to go back to Honda. Can't wait to see how this pans out... good luck!

[@Speedystig]

I'm a simple guy, I see carthrottle new video i click like :D

[@nadeemm429]

I wanted to see more of that crx. I think the CRX is one of the most beautiful cars

[@alanhuynh1183]

This guy will never be able to replace Josh from RotaryRevs...

[@joshuastedford1670]

This video reminded me why I love Hondas. The underdog heart of a Mini with the versatility of a Golf, the first time I saw a B18c swapped EG, I was eternally converted. Something about them just... clicks. P.S: the DC5 on the ramp was featured on Fast Car magazine quite recently. The final result is breathtaking. Honda fans: have a read

[@hananurrehman]

First one in the UK? We've already done a K swap Prelude in Pakistan lol

[@makalam1036]

Legend has it he is still working on it

[@mr.z4973]

Spray can paint job with a 2k clear coat spray please

[@島袋誠-z6k]

So disappointed they let this die, sad.

[@edlakota]

We need more of this dude - his enthusiasm is awsome!!

[@ShaiyanHossain]

rather would have seen an H22 or an F20B swap good luck fitting a K series in but if you can pull it off, hats off to you

[@TheBb6prelude]

Shaiyan Hossain sane here. F20b for sure. There’s already a k24 3rd gen build.

[@nicolasheftre9135]

Great project and video! As always! Looking forward for the Vtec kicking in in red toto (would have preferred Ludovic as car name but still..)

[@Ponteo]

Was there consideration for a H22 engine in the Prelude?

[@petrbycek248]

Proud owner of Civic Type R FN2 with K20Z4 engine

[@FilipeGeadas]

I’m amazed you guys in the UK can do this legally... Not in my country...

[@ts.exotics4583]

Which country are in right now ?

[@FilipeGeadas]

@@ts.exotics4583 Portugal. People do modify the cars, but they become illegal by changing some things. Some things are allowed ( rims size, car colour, window tint (almost 600€ in paperwork and MOT), and that's it. If it doesn't come stock, forget it! Engine swaps are completely ilegal. Even for the same engine. People do swap engines, but Honda's here got a bad rep so police and MOT guy's cough the act. I own an EJ9 hatch, and basically I wanted to convert to an EK4 hatch ( they are very rare here), and I can change everything because I use OEM parts and Police/MOT don't know the diferences, except the engine and the front bar because of a stupid ancient law!

[@cameron4907]

When are we gonna get another episode!!

[@shaeerhassan8588]

Great swap and Perfect colour choice for the car

[@crxkid16]

Honda’s Rio red would be more period correct from the 88-91 crx and civics

[@manpalbajwa4394]

The 3rd gen Prelude is basically a dead car. There are almost no aftermarket performance parts for it and it’s not popular. No one knows about it. The only parts you can get for it are basically ricer upgrades

[@kaoticbacon4373]

Man I love Hondas so much

[@RedPillVegan]

Man, title is a bit clickbaity. seems like he didn't really spend much time in this video talking about the pros and cons of the K20. It's a video about building a k24 Honda prelude

[@dbmgaming3039]

Super excited for the build car throttle always manage to use unique cars and have attention to detail such as the 80's intro. The Honda specialist is really nice btw : )

[@Wehiremonkeys]

This car really didn't need an engine swap, the AWS does add 250HP after all.