The Quiet Rifle- A Modern Rook Rifle in 32 S&W Long, No Stamp, No Suppressor

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

Oh of course. I just HAD to screw up the title card...

[@Omnonymous]

I used to live right by Pintos. Great selection of cool old stuff. Their parts bins are everything Ione could want out of such an establishment. Good to see those parts put to good use.

[@Siskiyous6]

I converted a Rolling Block from 32RF to 32 Long, a difficult project, but well worth it.

[@johnscheib9077]

I'm working on a 32 acp rifle for much the same reason

[@nunyobuisniz713]

The .32 s&w long is a sweet cartridge. You better believe I was extremely pleased to discover that off the shelf LRN loadings cycled smoothly in my Henry .327 big boy carbine. It's so smooth, soft, accurate, and quiet that it has replaced .22lr as my go to plinking round

[@johnboet4852]

Have built (2) #4 Remington rolling blocks in .32 s&w short and long in the pursuit of quiet. Accurate and fun!

[@HitokiriRaiden]

Be a great little squirrel and rabbit rifle. I like it.

[@donaldfeeney912]

I am impressed...and envious. The .32 S&W Long is one of my favorite revolver cartridges. It's enjoyable to shoot and easy to reload. If only H&R were still around, and if so, making a .32 S&W Long break action Handi-Rifle. Thank you for this video and for your knowledge, skill and work in making the Rook Rifle.

[@The_Conspiracy_Analyst]

There's many (ok some) options nowadays in .327 Federal Mag which will chamber H&R mag, S&W Long, and S&W

[@daleswalley7226]

Henry is one of them.

[@FrznFury27]

Just wanna say that I love the look of the full-length forestock.

[@elund408]

Both Elmer Keith and Skeeter Skelton sang the praises of a hot loaded 32 long for small game. I have thought of using a 32/20 barrel liner to make one.

[@Salieri47]

You made your own Rook rifle, very kewl.

[@gregcampwriter]

This is the companion rifle for my S&W Hand Ejector that I didn't know I had a burning desire to own before this video--and if it could be chambered up to .327 Federal Magnum, it would go with my Taurus 327. When you gear up for a commerical production run, I'll gladly be your first customer. (And let's ignore the fact that I'd be one of the few customers.)

[@marstondavis]

Looks great. I too like a Mannlicher style stock. Way back in the '70's I bought a S & W .32 long revolver, and it was a very accurate gun. It was light and easy to carry. I'd take it out to shoot in the countryside and it was a lot more accurate than any other revolver I've had before or since. I wish I'd have kept it. I traded it for a Luger and that was promptly stolen.

[@steveh7823]

Also I realise how much noise is mechanical and additional to powder ignition; spring rattle, mag rattle, springs striking their end plates, hammer strike, trigger release. This is especially noticeable with air rifles

[@inglwud5625]

I found a h&r handi rifle barrel in 32 h&r magnum on eBay of all places! A guy in California had it and it was a project he never finished. I bought it and installed the missing parts and ejector and it shoots fantastic! Just need to blue the barrel because its still in the white and I noticed its stamped 32 h&r magnum exp.

[@pithicus52]

Theodore Roosevelt chose 32 Colt New Police for use when he was New York City Police Commissioner. 32 Colt New Police is the same cartridge case as the 32 S&W Long. It just uses a different bullet. I have a Harrington and Richardson model 732 in 32 S&W Long. As I understand it, these guns were once popular with security guards who had to supply their own equipment since the gun was cheaper than the equivalent Colt or S&W.

[@jpay37]

When you say no recoil, you mean it. Wow! Very cool project, I can’t wait to see more of it!

[@zacduval1866]

Very cool

[@Ghosthawk332nd]

.32sw long is in many respects an ideal low powered round for dispatching critters in your yard. Especially with a mild load of pistol powder, etc. I have a ruger new model single six in H&R mag that has only fired .32sw long rounds. Works great!

[@bondvagabond42]

I built one in 2010, when you just could not get .22lr in oregon where I was at. I called my .32 long rifle my .22 maximum, lol. Figured I could load it to .22lr levels, but it was reloadable unlike. 22lr. Can't remember what load i used but it was just a little sip of of powder, and I used cast bullets out of scrounge wheel weights I got when I went running. I have a little top break revolver in .32 long I like a lot too. Payed like $50 cause it had a busted mainspring. I made a replacement flat spring, like original, with the thought I'd convert it to coil spring if it ever broke, but it hasn't yet. Our metallurgy has come a long way in 150 years.

[@Lunchbox825]

I love little rifles like this, just a small centerfire pistol cartridge rifle, theres just something comfy about it

[@cowtipper6705]

This is very cool. I love the long forend. It looks like it's of a much larger caliber.

[@jeffryrichardson9105]

Absolutely gorgeous love it!👍🏽😊❤️🇺🇸

[@g54b95]

Neat! I've always liked the look of a Mannlicher stock.

[@Michaelfatman-xo7gv]

Like the stock style, can't say it without giggling.

[@guaporeturns9472]

Finally got your rook rifle! Great news

[@TheGunfighter45acp]

Nice work! Somethings just need to be done. 👍👍

[@Gunsgame1966]

Can’t wait for the follow up on this one for accuracy testing ! Great video great little bunny gun! Nice work Tinker

[@johnndavis7647]

Rook rifles are interesting. I have two of them in 38 long Colt. One is an English made break action Tranter. The other is an American made Ballard. These things got their start when Colt percussion revolvers were converted to take rim-fire and center-fire cartridges. So, you had 32,36 and 44 to choose from. There were others of course but Colt had a factory in London so cartridges for his guns were very popular in Rabbit and Rook rifles. Out of a rifle barrel one could shoot pesky rabbits and crows in the garden and not disturb the neighbors. The 32 is probably the best of them. Ammo and brass is still available as are bullet molds of several designs and plenty of loading data. The 36 is actually .380 and is an odd size. Eras Gone makes a mold for percussion revolvers that will work. Trimmed 38 Special cases will fit. The originals were loaded with black powder and may be weak designs. So Pyrodex or 777 should be considered if black powder is unavailable. Thanks for the video

[@Omnonymous]

Downright nifty!

[@guaporeturns9472]

That is sweet

[@rustyauerswald1069]

It's kool..got ideas myself Now !

[@louislarose6613]

That is an awesome build ! Great looking rifle !

[@dlmsarge8329]

What a fun little gun to make and use!! Your projects are always so interesting, thanks for posting them!

[@1anthonybrowning]

excellent

[@jacksutherland846]

Very cool! You and I both know how fun making cool guns even better is. I took an old Colt new pocket, and reamed it to .32 s&w long because the .32 Colt heel style originals are all but long gone. Gun rhymes with fun! This is what the inept, fearful, unimaginative, and untalented, grabbers will never understand is that this is one of the best reasons we like our toys so much.

[@rymanjones3]

I really like the styles of rifles you make. Low profile, with the front stock going all the way to the muzzle/endcap. Always an interesting video when you upload :)

[@davidnichols6938]

Very cool good job I can't weight to be able to put something like that together one day

[@charlesmckinley29]

Very nice project!

[@grahammctygue724]

Know a fella who did / redid a stevens bolt in 25 rimfire 25 auto is guite fine in a longer barrel blessings to you and family 🙏🙏🎉🎉😊😊

[@debi5292]

Good idea. A garden gun with some reach and punch.

[@Thoroughly_Wet]

I'm gen Z, i do like the newer stuff, but i enjoy your channel and all the tinkering you do. I had older family members who tinkered on firearms much how you do and its something I've always wished i was more interested in when they were alive.

[@RamonMarais-k2k]

Small game hunting rifle. Man oh man.

[@feraltweed]

I keep thinking I need to make something like this. Nice job thanks for sharing

[@ChuckSneed88]

This is awesome good work

[@BrowncoatNerd]

I dig it!

[@The_Conspiracy_Analyst]

Yeah many years ago I did similar using a Lee-Enfield and a chamber adapter.... .32 S&W was as quiet as an air rifle.

[@robertkubrick3738]

Very neat little project. I was thinking of buying a lever action to shoot low power 38 Special for the same reason, quiet.

[@rustyauerswald1069]

It's kool !

[@michaelschweimler7292]

Nice! You could get an extension piece for the hammer that is pointed sideways like they are in the market for scoped lever action rifles.

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

I was considering making just such a device.

[@P_RO_]

@@tinkertalksguns7289 I'd do it and maybe center the scope afterward. Just me- it's great anyway.

[@94twentytwo76]

Super cool project!

[@zeprin]

Why NOT????

[@motorosso3349]

I own a couple of 32 S&W Long chambered revolvers and like them for the same reasons - low recoil and not obnoxiously loud. Looking forward to your follow up video.

[@GreasyStool]

Got Several .32 long's and .32 HR Mag. A couple of Smith & Wesson HE, RP and a 31. For .32 HR mag I have two, Stainless 2 "ported 731 and a 4" 741. I cast my bullets for these also. The Lee 100 gr RN and the 98 gr RCBS SWC. Fun little guns, very accurate even out to steel plates at 100 yrds. Not included are my CZ-70's and Mahurin Walther PP police trade in. A Machine philips screw has no place on a gun! LOL!

[@davidmcgaha3848]

Very nice. I have a few .32 S&W Long and H&R Magnum revolvers. So much fun. I want a Rook Rifle of my very own. Keep up the good work! Any issues with primers flowing into the firing pin channel? I believe you did a firing pin bushing on one of your earlier pistol-caliber conversions?

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

I did. On this one there's no issue; it's a pretty low-pressure cartridge.

[@cheeseburger3119]

So, I could make a full length barrel sleeve for my shotgun!

[@garyK.45ACP]

.32 S&W long is still used by some shooters in Bullseye shooting, though it has been largely replaced by the .38 Special for fans of revolvers. It is also used by shooters as a lower powered cartridge for use in the .32 Magnum revolvers. I handload and cast bullets for it. My wife uses it in her S&W Model 332 AirLite Ti revolver.

[@allanedwards5349]

Still widely used in Europe for precision pistol shooting - .32 S&WL with a 98gn hollow based wadcutter with a very light charge of Bullseye is a very standard load used in Pardini, Walther, FAS etc. semi-auto target pistols.

[@garyK.45ACP]

@@allanedwards5349 That is basically the load I assemble for my wife, but using a button nose, solid base 98 gr. wadcutter and just a wisp of Bullseye powder. HB wadcutters are kind of a pain to cast. But yes, Bullseye shooters like the HB wadcutter.

[@lessage760]

that is awsome sir i love it thank you for sharing

[@P_RO_]

Man I love this rifle! The side-lever action and the 'Mannlicher' forearm give it a classic look. I've always wondered what the 32 S&W Long would do in a longer barrel and it's respectable. Do try some of the magnum loads over the chrono; I imagine they'd do OK for deer with a well-placed shot. The 32 Long is an easy-to-load cartridge, economical and not picky to reload while delivering very good accuracy. Too bad it doesn't have a perfect barrel but it might do OK as-is. Trivia tidbit: None other than Teddy Roosevelt recommended the 32 S&W Long for the NYC Police way back when over the 38's because it was much easier to shoot accurately, and back then it was considered powerful enough for the job but they didn't take his advice and adopted the 38 Special instead.

[@frankbrowning328]

Cool idea and project! I'd bet a factory 32 S&W (Not the longer more powerful 32 S&W Long) would be even more quiet than a HV 22 short. That load may be very close in report to something like a 9mm subsonic shot through a suppressor

[@jamescook2041]

More power for larger game? Hence what the 32 H&R Mag or the 327 S&W Mag is for. It’s all shot placement.

[@robertharper8776]

Thought I was only one with a 32 single shot. Made mine with a mauser barrel and a diy reamer love mine

[@FrznFury27]

Okay but I really do want to know what 32 H&R (Or 327 Fedmag?) is like in this. That's just an incredible level of versatility in a very handy rifle.

[@wadekirby8575]

I have a 32 H&R mag chamber adapter that I've used in my 29" barreled Mosin Nagant, talk about quite! I've been meaning to make a Rook Rifle for years, this might be the kick in the pants I've need to get going on it. (Is it just me or is this video some what out of focus?)

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

I think it's bloom from the lights behind me.

[@cal30m1]

Try 32 shorts and see how quiet it is

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

I intend to!

[@johnjamieson6368]

I have a martini cadet reamed from the original 310 cartridge to 32-20. It's great fun

[@steveww1507]

I really like the look of that rifle . something i would like to own my self

[@mkshffr4936]

Cool project. Too bad nobody makes this type of rifle anymore.

[@SilntObsvr]

And of course you can also (if you want to be just that big quieter) shoot the short round, .32 S&W. I've got an adapter for my Mosin Nagant that gives most of the same advantages...

[@ІванІндукаєв]

I've had a similar idea independently, but of a low velocity (under 800 fps) heavy 12 ga slug out of like a 28" barrel But it's more like just for fun, not some real application like hunting or defence - more like a proof of concept

[@billwilson5418]

A friend of mine used to hunt raccoons in his front yard with a 19th century falling block in 22LR. He used 22 longs and it was quiet like that. Right in the middle of the city too. DT Renton lol.

[@nathanguyon7620]

Well, now that you've shown this neat little thing you'll have to lengthen the chamber a bit and try it in .327 federal magnum. Heard they're rolling 7-900ft/lbs out of a rifle barrel. And then make .32 shorts for shooting in the basement.

[@SiHawk]

Love this! Ever consider a similar project based on the Martini Cadet action?

[@PassivePortfolios]

A very interesting project and useful given the insane hurdles in the US to shooters who want rifle suppressors to reduce noise. This can be taken a step further by re-loaders using subsonic 38 Special and 44 Special loadings in single shot rifles. Thanks for the video !

[@steveh7823]

So interesting and great presentation/voice. It's a pity video is blurred in workshop. Being a bit clueless I guess the silence comes from barrel length/lower velocity. But 32 long is very hard to find. I am wondering if 380 could achieve the same silence with easier to find supplies. Visually and weight-wise the scope looks wrong. perhaps one those small WW2 type scopes or a solar red dot?

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

The blurring has turned out to be from a buggered screen protector and that's gone now, so future videos will be better.

[@deanmackley159]

Great minds think alike. I’m doing the same idea only my 303 barrel is just big enough to machine down to make an insert for the 20 gauge. I also will chamber to 32 H&R mag or 327 mag then all 4 32 rounds can be fired(32short,32 long, 32H&R and 327 mag) What do you think ??

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

Sounds like a plan. I only had the .32 H&R Magnum chamber reamer.

[@theoriginalOSOK]

Interesting. I was looking at another vid about a rook rifle... and I thought "somebody should make single shot rifles chambered in pistol calibers" for the wonky gun nuts out there...

[@Michaelfatman-xo7gv]

Pretty.

[@robaldridge6505]

you can shoot everything from 32 H&R Mag down to 32 ACP (WW SilverTips are great on cottontails out to about 50 feet...

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

Alas it will not extract .32 ACP; the semi-rim is just not enough rim.

[@robaldridge6505]

@@tinkertalksguns7289 thumbnail .. LOL

[@agoogleaccount2861]

Convert an old moison nagant to .32acp with a practice chamber adapter and add a .32 pistol magazine to the bottom. Think delisle carbine action

[@daleswalley7226]

I remember reading an article in an old issue of American Rifleman where they were paying homage to the .32 Long that one guy converted a Remington 788 to said caliber. Also I’m curious what .32 S&W short might do out of your Rook rifle?

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

I'm curious about that too, and I'll be trying it soon.

[@ILuvRum]

Would regular .32 S&W be even quieter? I believe it will also work.

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

It will work and would likely be even quieter. I'll be testing that in the future.

[@pauldahlhoff9316]

Look this up online Chaszel adapter.

[@leehardesty32]

What kind of powders are you favoring when you load for it to minimize the report? I've had decent luck useing fast burning powders with my heavy subsonic 9 mm for my can. Before i got my first tax stamp i had a 16 inch 9 mm with a comp that was fairly quiet with those loadings. My best luck has been with accurate #2 but my friend favors tight group.

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

I'm using Red Dot in these loads. I'll have to play around with some different powders and see what I can come up with.

[@jeffreyharville1918]

I have a question about legality. Is there any Laws on the conversion of a shotgun to pistol or rifle cartridge firing Rifle? I mean, you are effectively changing the title of the firearm, from one to the other, would BATF have a problem on that account?

[@MichaelJohnson-tw7dq]

Interesting. But does it take Glock magazines?

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

Yes, I keep finding the damn things in it's rifle case!

[@MichaelJohnson-tw7dq]

@@tinkertalksguns7289 lol

[@russellwylie]

coulda bought a Savage model 219 in 25 wcf and saved a lot of effort

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

Where's the fun in that? 😁

[@jamesW8316]

What is a Rook?😮

[@guaporeturns9472]

European/Asian crow-like bird

[@MichaelJohnson-tw7dq]

A crow.

[@P_RO_]

A chess piece. Shooting the more powerful Queen takes a bigger gun, and for the Bishop you must mount the scope diagonally 😁

[@Paladin1873]

I suspect the 32 Long is running out of steam before it reaches the muzzle. Have you considered reaming the bore from the muzzle back until there is only six to ten inches of rifling left?

[@charlierubenstein2886]

32 S&W long is too expensive to shoot. I just got quoted 27 dollars for 50 rounds. It is scarce also..

[@lthomas4697]

It might be time to invest in a new camera or fix the focus problems of the original....

[@Walter-wo5sz]

Reminds me of my 1892 marlin in 32 Colt. You might try the hornady 98 grain hollow base wadcutters backwards. They expand at super low velocities and won't exit most small game.

[@jakobthomas3587]

i do be following you over from trench rat customs page on fb

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

Nice to see you here!