The Ravens Offense Around Lamar Jackson is Elite

  Рет қаралды 5,867

The Athletic Football Show

The Athletic Football Show

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 87
@jordanBmore22
@jordanBmore22 4 ай бұрын
Last we saw Lamar with another MVP season awhile consistently facing top tier teams. The coaching staff has GOT to be aware of the fact they shot themselves in the foot in the AFC championship game and are now trying to right that wrong with Henry. Love it. Also the infrastructure take is bang on, Harbaugh is a facilitator of people not a true X and O guy.
@Y2K2PointO
@Y2K2PointO 4 ай бұрын
Any MVP QB can audible to whatever they like, especially with a new OC. Every top tier QB does it, except Lamar. You gotta audible if you don’t like the look or playcall. He’s a 2x MVP. He is in total control. Stop blaming the coaches.
@Broadkill54
@Broadkill54 4 ай бұрын
@@Y2K2PointO the OC literally said in a press conference during OTAs that they are going to let Lamar have more control of on the field playcalling. The head coach previously stated that the last OC didn’t allow change of play at the line of scrimmage. That’s on coaching.
@datdamnDUB
@datdamnDUB 4 ай бұрын
@@Y2K2PointOclearly you aren’t aware of the inner workings of the ravens during Lamar’s tenure. It’s pathetic how y’all try to pile on Lamar without proper context
@jamesparker6569
@jamesparker6569 4 ай бұрын
@@Y2K2PointO Why would he NOT blame the coach?? Lamar is one of the QBs that did not have the ability to audible. That came from the coach's mouth!
@iReply2Dummies
@iReply2Dummies 4 ай бұрын
That O Line was ass last year. Very mid. You didn't really watch the Ravens if you think their O line was good. He also mentioned Mark Andrews and ignored the fact that Likely went crazy while Andrews was out. And Zay had a hell of a year
@Finnissee0122
@Finnissee0122 4 ай бұрын
I been telling ppl this. The Ravens offense was not good in terms of Oline play.
@kyriedagoat453
@kyriedagoat453 4 ай бұрын
I knew it would cost us a Super Bowl and it did.
@jeremiahw1369
@jeremiahw1369 4 ай бұрын
I agree that Henry changed the way the defensive coordinator is going to sleep. He is a nightmare or a centaur, who has been known to stiff arm a soul or seven into the shadow realm with Earl Thomas. No disrespect to Gus Edwards, but he probably wouldn't have averaged 5 yards per carry for his career somewhere else. John Simpson is still John Simpson. Lamar Jackson and the Ravens differences between the Raiders is the difference between veteran minimum after getting cut by the Raiders for too many penalties and on the ground too often to leaving in free agency from the Ravens for committing too many penalties and ending up on the ground too often in pass protection. The Ravens have always had guards and linebackers and edges, but they always had like regular inexpensive running backs instead of the dark imposing shadow of a Centaur cast behind a juggernaut wearing number 22 looking bigger than the outside linebackers and yet still reached nearly 22mph in his last game with a rookie qb. Also, Likely was lights out replacing Andrews, who combined with the King will form a Bermuda triangle type of disappearing safeties.
@spartan5285
@spartan5285 4 ай бұрын
Nailed it on Likely, he was an absolute beast when Mandrews went down.
@bankslaw8900
@bankslaw8900 4 ай бұрын
It’s a lot of people sleeping on Henry. 22 personnel with Pat, Henry, Zay, Bate, Likely and Andrews 🔥 And people don’t realize the Tackles rotated especially Mosses when he hurt his shoulder and Simpson got picked on. Ben filed in for Zeitler for more than one game and had high pass and run blocking grades. Most the runs were behind him also.
@jmill7928
@jmill7928 4 ай бұрын
you can tell nat media who dont view the team closely
@bankslaw8900
@bankslaw8900 4 ай бұрын
@@jmill7928 exactly, the Ravens can be dominant in every personnel setting really. And I can’t understand why people think this o line was so good when it was a work in progress the entire season.
@RaRa-pe9dt
@RaRa-pe9dt 4 ай бұрын
Bate? Not better then obj, mark/likely haven’t shown in 2 seasons them on the field work
@bankslaw8900
@bankslaw8900 4 ай бұрын
@@RaRa-pe9dt ok keep sleeping on them
@datdamnDUB
@datdamnDUB 4 ай бұрын
That’s 12 players on the field fam 😂😂😂😂 FB Ricard HB Henry WR Bate Zay TE Andrews Likely 5 linemen That’s 11 guys right there Then oh yeah, we have this one guy LA-MVP JACKSON IDK MAYBE YOUVE HEARD OF EM 😂😂😂😂😂
@connorthurston7731
@connorthurston7731 4 ай бұрын
The offensive line is a very real concern. But it was our worst position group last year. So either its mid again and we go on a playoff run, again, or its actually decent and we're unstoppable.
@Ghutcheson14
@Ghutcheson14 4 ай бұрын
I just hope the O-line holds up and everyone stays healthy
@grandlarsonie1152
@grandlarsonie1152 4 ай бұрын
This is the best line we've had in years. Rosenthal is athletic like Linderbaum, great for zone runs or lamar jacksons style of play!
@TAFootballShow
@TAFootballShow 4 ай бұрын
🙏
@junehanzawa5165
@junehanzawa5165 4 ай бұрын
The offensive line has to be the most cohesive of any group in football. By far. That takes time. No matter where or time. It has always been the same as long as the NFL has been around. This is NOT college. This is not Alabama or Georgia where you outsize and bully your opponent with a massive O-line year in and year out with plug and play 5 start recruits everywhere. This is the NFL. That's their biggest challege. They have zero issues with their receivers. They have 3 TE's that can catch the ball as good as any to complement their WR's. That's not the problem at all. It's the time it takes to have a cohesive O-line. You just don't bring in 3 new starters and say here we go. And that schedule doesn't help any.
@grandlarsonie1152
@grandlarsonie1152 4 ай бұрын
@junehanzawa5165 Our line has been constantly changing for years. It's been getting better ever since Villeneuva left
@joburke10
@joburke10 4 ай бұрын
Best honest analysis of the Ravens offense. Provided everyone stays healthy, this should be interesting.
@bnardpolo96
@bnardpolo96 4 ай бұрын
I think it comes down to Bateman health
@TAFootballShow
@TAFootballShow 4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@Finnissee0122
@Finnissee0122 4 ай бұрын
@@Final_Resolutionevery WR has out produced him. Obj & Flowers had 1 year with Lamar & were much better players
@Zappy1210
@Zappy1210 4 ай бұрын
Love a good discussion where people aren't clinging to their opinions like their life depends on it. Well done guys!
@dirediredude
@dirediredude 4 ай бұрын
Hey Robert at least you finally mentioned Henry while talking about the Ravens this time ;) The last couple shows you've had about the AFC North and their offseason moves he wasn't even discussed which I thought was kinda odd.
@dranelgrim
@dranelgrim 4 ай бұрын
Likely not mentioned suggest they didn't calculate the potential of the pass game accurately. Likely was the TE not Andrews when Lamar made his 2nd half of the season MVP case.
@dmaconthestix
@dmaconthestix 4 ай бұрын
I think when Keaton Mitchell comes back late in the season the rushing attack will be even that much more otherworldly
@TAFootballShow
@TAFootballShow 4 ай бұрын
His speed is such a useful skill to the backfield
@user-f5xt2op9t
@user-f5xt2op9t 4 ай бұрын
Seriously? You counting on KM coming back from a late season ACL tear to contribute this year with his speed? Get real. He will be a beast NEXT YEAR, barely a contributor if he is even back by November.
@dmaconthestix
@dmaconthestix 4 ай бұрын
@@user-f5xt2op9t ok 👍🏾
@jamesparker6569
@jamesparker6569 4 ай бұрын
I think if they switch it up between 12 personnel, and 11 personnel it could be devastating. One thing they definitely have this year is options.
@mazeofthemind560
@mazeofthemind560 4 ай бұрын
Others have said it too, but I think the skill position is being undersold Mostly because this is hands down the best TE1-3 in the league. Andrews is a top-5 TE, probably more like a top-3, and Likely is probably already a top-20 option that would start on plenty of NFL teams. Its hard to pin down the value of TEs since they're so situational and package dependent, but with all of its starters this is a scary, scary team passing out of 12 personnel. The biggest variable is Bateman, and to a lesser extent Walker, this is his first healthy fully healthy NFL offseason, he's had stretches where he looks like a top-20 option, and if he can get back to that with Walker as a dedicated deep threat opening up the intermediate middle where Lamar does his best work, the ceiling of this passing offense explodes. But Henry is the X factor, its not hard to argue he is basically 90% of 2019 Henry, and that his decline was mostly the situation around him. The 49ers are the only team that comes close to the Ravens as a RB landing spot. If we get 90% of 2019 Henry with Lamar Jackson and even average blocking, this will be a historic year and Henry is capable of absorbing every single carry Monken throws his way. The long pole is obviously the OL and RT in particular. Rodger or Faalelle are going to get their lunch money taken a few times this season, the hope is they round into average starters by seasons end. I actually think the questions are overblown at Guard, Vorhees is a very good prospect in year 1.5 of the system, Cleveland had stretches of strong starting play late last season, on top of immense physical tools.
@bossky1780
@bossky1780 4 ай бұрын
There shouldn't be an excuse for Lamar Jackson next season his got a good top 10 with players like Henry Hill Mitchell Flowers Andrews likely the offense averaged around 28 points a game, his got the playoff experience coming off a W against Houston and an L in the AFC championship against the champs.
@plugcap2604
@plugcap2604 4 ай бұрын
Well u say no excuse but his team was hurt last year and was in the afc championship game lol
@RaRa-pe9dt
@RaRa-pe9dt 4 ай бұрын
What about burrow?
@KingTayvess
@KingTayvess 4 ай бұрын
LIKELY 🤷🏾‍♂️ that 12 personnel is about to break records andrews likely zay Bateman Henry and Lamar on the field at the same time okay 👌
@aravendownsouth7117
@aravendownsouth7117 4 ай бұрын
I can't understand why everyone doesn't believe our pass catchers! Hell if we don't then everyone needs to be afraid if and when we do! That's all I'm saying! Imo Henry is going to help these receivers show their asses!
@RaRa-pe9dt
@RaRa-pe9dt 4 ай бұрын
@@aravendownsouth7117obj was better then Bateman it’s a regressed group
@aravendownsouth7117
@aravendownsouth7117 4 ай бұрын
@@RaRa-pe9dt we shall see
@kyriedagoat453
@kyriedagoat453 4 ай бұрын
@@RaRa-pe9dtNah , more naturally gifted yeah but nah
@RaRa-pe9dt
@RaRa-pe9dt 4 ай бұрын
@@kyriedagoat453 yeah he was literally wr2 on the depth chart
@michaellowry3575
@michaellowry3575 4 ай бұрын
The O-line will be fine just like last year. Teams weren't actively rushing because of Lamars ability to escape the pocket or extend plays and find open guys. They will also no have to make sure there is enough guys to stop the running game. This now leaves a bunch of one on one matchups with Zay, Mark, Likely, and Rashod who will be drawing the second corner will be getting open. Derrick and Lamar will keep eyes in the back field
@marctipp
@marctipp 4 ай бұрын
Derrick Henry had one of the worst offensive lines in Tenn. If you think He’s going to do worse in Baltimore…behind their offensive line, then you’re crazy. Andrews and Likely are elite TE’s and Zay Flowers is a legit Weapon at WR. Bateman is the biggest question at WR. I wish The Ravens could afford Aiyuk. He’d be an incredible addition to the WR room.
@joshuaokparaocha331
@joshuaokparaocha331 4 ай бұрын
Ravens offense was good last year cause it was healthy. Ravens offense will be good this year if it’s healthy
@user-f5xt2op9t
@user-f5xt2op9t 4 ай бұрын
FAX. These people in the comments counting on Keaton Mitchell coming back from an acl.
@Finnissee0122
@Finnissee0122 4 ай бұрын
They weren’t healthy for the post season.
@bnardpolo96
@bnardpolo96 4 ай бұрын
What I think makes the ravens offense so scary is the different ways they can beat you. You can't just go into a game and depend on one formation. The running games, two tight end set can be hard. You have two top 10 tight end on the field. I will say this if Bateman can stay healthy and show up. This offense will be a top 3 offense at minimum
@jamesparker6569
@jamesparker6569 4 ай бұрын
Exactly!!! If Todd is able to call all the plays without John Interfering, I think this offense can be unstoppable.
@bnardpolo96
@bnardpolo96 4 ай бұрын
@jamesparker6569 Bateman health and how the offense is run is key. You just can't have one thing to worried about. Ravens can be good in multiple ways
@stallons8003
@stallons8003 4 ай бұрын
That makes them a threat in the NFL. Now all they have to do is apply those skills against the Steelers and Chiefs who can stop the run.​@@bnardpolo96
@travissaysthetruth
@travissaysthetruth 4 ай бұрын
Awesome evaluation 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@TAFootballShow
@TAFootballShow 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, Travis
@Joe_Kondeez
@Joe_Kondeez 4 ай бұрын
Having us at 7 for thoae reasons are on the nail.. we'll be seeing lamar run for his life more this year.
@morriselliott1686
@morriselliott1686 4 ай бұрын
Just keep watching
@thefamily629
@thefamily629 4 ай бұрын
Also the ravens should need an elite wr room with the elite TE room they had.all the wr's have to do is just be good and be consistent and the TE's go there thing plus you add derrick Henry and the o-line can be at least solid and consistent then the ravens offense could be elite
@JT2327
@JT2327 4 ай бұрын
A lot… of people are focused on QB ratings and stats and forget about the complete Offensive unit. I think the Ravens offense is slept on forsure
@user-f5xt2op9t
@user-f5xt2op9t 4 ай бұрын
They were the number one seed last year, how TF are they "slept on"? You need to update your vocab.
@JT2327
@JT2327 4 ай бұрын
@@user-f5xt2op9t you need to understand context. Nobody’s talking about last year. I say they’re slept on because in silly online rankings people have the Texans, Bills, Bengals ahead of the Ravens. KC I get it whatever. To me the Ravens and the 49ers offense is in the same tier but I don’t think that’s the consensus
@user-f5xt2op9t
@user-f5xt2op9t 4 ай бұрын
@@JT2327 who cares about context of the conversations of people that don't understand football? Ravens are not slept on in any way to those that actually watch and understand the game.
@lathelmountain8859
@lathelmountain8859 3 ай бұрын
He’s forgetting adding likely and Andrew’s as the best TE duo in the league if the ravens use our TE and run game like they should we’re gonna be a bully on offense
@max-q7129
@max-q7129 4 ай бұрын
Ravens offensive line is younger, more agile and better than last year. You cite Moses and Simpson as being better but both missed time in addition to Stanley. The people who played for the most part are people who played when your “stars” were out. Same with Zeitler. Moses, Simpson and Zeitler have almost 3 decades behind them. They were slow, fragile and oft injured. I think the Ravens offensive line will blow away last years O Line.
@bonesawisready2865
@bonesawisready2865 4 ай бұрын
Doing it all without a bonafide #1 wr. I think Zay could possibly become that #1
@chuletajones6833
@chuletajones6833 4 ай бұрын
People really have to ask themselves why is this the conversation every yr with Lamar? Is it just the playoff performances or is there another bias at play? When Lamar is healthy he always has them as the 1 seed at some point. Yes, he hasn't gotten it done in the post season but in the regular season hes arguably the best. Even better than Mahomes. Remember, Im talking about the regular season.
@bjames692
@bjames692 4 ай бұрын
I’m surprised you’re not saying Lamar Jackson is not out a good quarterback
@chimzichuku4757
@chimzichuku4757 4 ай бұрын
Lamar is the reason our line looked good last year. If you review the tape, you'll see how John Simpson was not all that great and the tackles were not as great either.
@stephenborunda
@stephenborunda 4 ай бұрын
Big mistake to overlook the FACT that Ravens have best TE room in the league. Andrews and Likely could be best TE combo since Gronk and he who shall not be named. I expect both to be between 600 and 1,000 yards.
@Mjones22276
@Mjones22276 3 ай бұрын
Lol😅😅. clown's
@geraldjackson9974
@geraldjackson9974 4 ай бұрын
O Line. Both tackles were hurt and the only strong Linemen Was our Center. And if you only see Andrew's and don't see Likely, u r on the outside trying to look in. We are STRONG. FLOCK NATION!!
@Y2K2PointO
@Y2K2PointO 4 ай бұрын
Lamar has 2 MVPs. No OC is gonna tell him he can’t change the play at the line. If people are mad about the Ravens abandoning the run, that lies on your QB. He ultimately decides what happens at the snap. The excuses for Lamar are through the roof. Hearing Brady talk about preparation and recognizing tendencies has made me realize the “oohs and ahhs” of Lamar are just sizzle. At some point, the dude needs to progress into an elite mental player, or he’ll keep getting cooked in the playoffs.
@Finnissee0122
@Finnissee0122 4 ай бұрын
For 5 years he couldn’t change the play. Thats on coaching.
@RaRa-pe9dt
@RaRa-pe9dt 4 ай бұрын
So what about burrow and Allen?
@sjrahrico
@sjrahrico 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, dude don’t watch football lol to say 7 🤦🏾‍♂️ outside of Mark like Likely wasn’t killing it.
@spartan5285
@spartan5285 4 ай бұрын
Ravens out of the top 5?! Lmaooo
@thefamily629
@thefamily629 4 ай бұрын
The ravens o-line wasn't that good last year.coming from a ravens fan who watched every single snap of every single game last season,the ravens o-line was spotty last season at best.the o-line was bad more then it was good and they were only getting older.morgan Moses was getting beat more then he wasnt
@user-f5xt2op9t
@user-f5xt2op9t 4 ай бұрын
And they needed a rotation! Neither tackle was healthy. They survived because they have great DEPTH at OLINE and a great coach. Shout out to Joe D!
@muhidinbarre609
@muhidinbarre609 4 ай бұрын
When they don’t win the sb what’s the excuse gonna be
@MrSonicification
@MrSonicification 4 ай бұрын
I guess we'll have to wait and see, won't we? Thanks for showing faith that the boys will make it to the super bowl, though, I'm sure they're happy for your support.
@JT2327
@JT2327 4 ай бұрын
I guess we’ll never know 😈
@357say
@357say 4 ай бұрын
No other young quarterback not named Mahomes has a tittle. Winning playoff games with no tittle means what ? What excuse does the bengals Buffalo Chargers Lions Cowboys. Ravens don’t make excuses if they lose the other team was better that day. Teams should be worried about Mahomes he’s the one killing our football dreams. Ravens have beat all the top teams the Chiefs are our nemesis and everybody else’s.
@marcusbell7627
@marcusbell7627 4 ай бұрын
It only Common sense you have a prime Lamar and King Henry - let me make it more simple this equals prime vick and Jim Brown on the same team and vick has some pass catchers like in Philly - and Zay is not even DJax - NFL get ready 🔥🤪🔥🤪
@Sadraven-sr3lp
@Sadraven-sr3lp 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, Lamar's supporting cast includes Zay Flowers - taunter, fumbler, wife-beater.
The one "brutal" truth every man must accept to change his Life
12:43
Мама у нас строгая
00:20
VAVAN
Рет қаралды 2,8 МЛН
СКОЛЬКО ПАЛЬЦЕВ ТУТ?
00:16
Masomka
Рет қаралды 2,5 МЛН
Triple kill😹
00:18
GG Animation
Рет қаралды 18 МЛН
Disrespect or Respect 💔❤️
00:27
Thiago Productions
Рет қаралды 38 МЛН
Every Lamar Jackson NFL Touchdownᴴᴰ (2018-2024)
23:29
SimplyAS10
Рет қаралды 2,5 М.
How NFL Players REALLY Feel About Lamar Jackson..
14:16
KRICH Productions
Рет қаралды 52 М.
Will Steelers Stop Lamar's MVP Run? | Ravens vs Steelers Preview
7:18
Check The Mic with Steve Palazzolo & Sam Monson
Рет қаралды 7 М.
This Is Why the Baltimore Ravens Signed Derrick Henry
10:17
Fantasy Football with Josh & Hayden
Рет қаралды 21 М.
Is Arteta's Masterplan At Arsenal Falling Apart?
33:49
HITC Sevens
Рет қаралды 78 М.
Ranking The BEST Supporting Casts In The AFC
1:31:38
The Athletic Football Show
Рет қаралды 3,5 М.
Мама у нас строгая
00:20
VAVAN
Рет қаралды 2,8 МЛН