The Re-Litigation of Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link - Completionist X Defend It Crossover

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Sequels can be tough. They can be direct clones or something entirely different, and with Zelda 2 The Adventure of Link it was a WILDLY different game. And there's only one way to settle this: in court! The video game court returns to render a verdict for my Zelda 2 review!
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Link returns to Hyrule to search for the Triforce and to awaken Zelda from an endless sleep. Embark on a quest to find the Triforce of Courage and save Hyrule from ruin. Learn magic spells, talk to people in towns to get clues, collect items to increase your power, and explore six palaces where the underlings of the evil Ganon await you. This sequel to the adventure classic uses a side-scrolling visual engine unique to the series for more technical combat, and it features more in-depth world roaming as Link encounters townsfolk while on his quest.
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@JJGamezMC
@JJGamezMC 2 жыл бұрын
It took 36 seconds until the phrase “black sheep” was mentioned This is a Zelda II video alright
@LupinticDream
@LupinticDream 2 жыл бұрын
Every video, man...
@JJGamezMC
@JJGamezMC 2 жыл бұрын
@@LupinticDream Metroid 2, Zelda 2, Super Mario Bros 2…. Why is it always the second one lol
@TromboneMaster95
@TromboneMaster95 2 жыл бұрын
@@JJGamezMC Because at that point a formula isn't established, so they change some things and keep others the same (more so than usual)
@thesolucian4
@thesolucian4 2 жыл бұрын
I know they're not canon, but the CD-i Zelda games are more black sheep than Zelda 2 is.
@cosmiclikesminecraft
@cosmiclikesminecraft 2 жыл бұрын
@@JJGamezMC the worst part is Metroid 2 is amazing, and Samus Returns takes all its good aspects and chucks them in the trash
@austinraider4123
@austinraider4123 Жыл бұрын
The fact this game wad the first to introduce towns, magic, sword techniques, jumping, shadow link, as well as various enemies. Makes it a defining game within the franchise
@paolozambito
@paolozambito 9 ай бұрын
Completely agree.
@maverickmckee9198
@maverickmckee9198 2 жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t for this one, we wouldn’t have the Downward Thrust. This one is crucial.
@EmilyRose900
@EmilyRose900 2 жыл бұрын
There's a ton of stuff Zelda 2 introduced that carried on through most of the games. Names, like Ruto town became a species in Windwaker, boots became the winged one from ocarina of time, reflect spell turned into the mirror shield, the hammer was in Z2 first, lizalfos were first here, ect, ect, ect. People need to show some respect.
@jackthememer1186
@jackthememer1186 2 жыл бұрын
@@EmilyRose900 Ruto is Princess Ruto from Ocarina of Time. The bird species is called the Rito. Each of the sages from OoT have a town named after them in Zelda 2. Ruto Town is named after the Zora Princess.
@Dyundu
@Dyundu 2 жыл бұрын
Or towns. Or magic. Or the Triforce of Courage. Or adult Link. Or Dark Link. Or non-Ganon villains. Or realms outside of Hyrule proper. Or the sword-focused combat of later Zeldas like Ocarina of Time (which was at one point in its development meant to be a remake of Z2, which is why stalkids don’t spawn if you stay on the path in Hyrule Field).
@BountyMaster456
@BountyMaster456 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, the downward thrust... you think Link tried that with the woman who “healed” him in the villages? Wink* Wink* Nudge* Nudge*
@KairuHakubi
@KairuHakubi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dyundu this is the first i'm hearing it was going to be a remake. I know the very earliest tests of the engine recreated a dungeon and enemies from Zelda _1_ is that what you meant? The path thing is interesting though, I definitely never noticed that. no wonder it always seemed like as soon as I made a decision to go somewhere, suddenly they pop up.
@NickVoiceActing
@NickVoiceActing 2 жыл бұрын
“Zelda II is the worst Zelda game” So we’re just gonna ignore the CDI games? I’m fine with that.
@montgomerywiles3884
@montgomerywiles3884 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty certain most people and Nintendo prefer to pretend those games don't exist because they are just that bad.
@thegreendragon5390
@thegreendragon5390 2 жыл бұрын
What's a CDI? Sounds like a terrible idea.
@BR-jw7pm
@BR-jw7pm 2 жыл бұрын
Of course we ignore them! Why would anyone want to acknowledge their existence?
@flamelurk
@flamelurk 2 жыл бұрын
They aren’t ignored. They don’t count, they weren’t worked on by Nintendo.
@Nikketsinne
@Nikketsinne 2 жыл бұрын
Hahah I love your post 🙏
@razbuten
@razbuten 2 жыл бұрын
Jirard out here with the best take of Zelda 2 being good actually
@MasterBlade111
@MasterBlade111 2 жыл бұрын
Just came here after watching your video!
@GrotesqueGuac
@GrotesqueGuac 2 жыл бұрын
@@MasterBlade111 same. I just watched his link's awakening video, which was awesome.
@linksapprentice726
@linksapprentice726 2 жыл бұрын
Hey it’s bag man!!! He does videos about stuff!!!!!
@neintimesthegeek1337
@neintimesthegeek1337 2 жыл бұрын
But it is a good game. Like, a fantastic underrated gem
@nightmareoktopus3640
@nightmareoktopus3640 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you dare forget to upload your hour long video you announced half a year ago.
@jib4622
@jib4622 2 жыл бұрын
I really want to see a remake of this game now.
@thegreendragon5390
@thegreendragon5390 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. If Nintendo could remake Metroid 2 into the vast improvement that was Samus Returns on the 3DS; Imagine what they could do with the original Zeldas on the Switch.
@timmyjimmy7413
@timmyjimmy7413 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it could really use the metroid two treatment
@ThisJordo
@ThisJordo 2 жыл бұрын
Remake it as a metroidvania
@CassiusStelar
@CassiusStelar 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThisJordo Yes. Especially if they expand on the combat
@TheBanishedWind
@TheBanishedWind 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: There *WAS* an attempt to remake The Adventure Of Link back in the mid-90's. The project eventually changed direction toward becoming a new game instead. This new Zelda game was none other than Ocarina Of Time. Bonus Fact: The AoL Remake Project that became OoT wasn't the first time a revisit of an old project led to a new game that has become iconic. Not long after A Link To The Past was released, an idle project was formed from the idea of porting ALttP to the GameBoy. This resulted in the development of Link's Awakening. Furthermore, it wasn't the last time either. When Capcom wanted to make some Zelda games after the turn of the millennium, one of their pitches was a remake of the first game, The Hyrule Fantasy. Eventually, when the plan to make Seed Of The Wonder Tree into a trilogy fell through, the remake of the first game was revamped and released as Oracle Of Seasons.
@lee89lee
@lee89lee 2 жыл бұрын
Real Talk: That Dungeon Theme is STILL a banger 🥰
@SpyHunter89
@SpyHunter89 2 жыл бұрын
Better than the repetitive dungeon music in the first game, too. Yeah, I said it.
@blairbird8022
@blairbird8022 2 жыл бұрын
Jesse having the time of his life playing a judge.
@DukeofGames50
@DukeofGames50 2 жыл бұрын
10:00 😹
@cody32390
@cody32390 2 жыл бұрын
Zelda 2 was on the Collector’s Edition because the idea was to make every Zelda game to date playable on Gamecube (The GBA version of ALttP was playable via the gameboy player). iirc it actually said this outright in one of the retrospectives on the collection itself.
@cicabeot1
@cicabeot1 2 жыл бұрын
Defend It returns! Kinda! I was legit curious how he was gonna handle this one and I’m happy he’s doing it as a Defend It again.
@matthewmicelli6674
@matthewmicelli6674 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, I've only gotten into the Zelda series recently and I'm very disappointed to see that Nintendo never did another installment in this style again. I thought the structure was great and had a blast with it.
@BaconNuke
@BaconNuke 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically if they released a "spin-off" in the style, it being the modern day it would probably be a good game and people would enjoy it
@Tailstraw_xD
@Tailstraw_xD 2 жыл бұрын
Yknow, when Dark Souls first came out, it reminded me a lot of Zelda II. The NPCs: unhelpful The combat: Memorization and exploitation of patterns You will die: a lot. You absolutely can and will wander into areas where the enemies will beat you up and steal your lunch money.
@leargamma4912
@leargamma4912 Жыл бұрын
The npc's are helpful. Stop being wrong
@vginsprdsobepr9698
@vginsprdsobepr9698 2 жыл бұрын
Zelda 2 was the first game I ever bought for the NES. I would like to see a remake because it was a challenging game.
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't a Zelda game, would people look at the game differently? Like, if it was called Palace Quest or something, would people see it differently and not be pulled down by baggage from the first game? People hate it because it's not Zelda 1, but does that automatically make it a bad game?
@Maxer64ya
@Maxer64ya 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl, the name Palace Quest sounds like an actual NES title that could have existed.
@aurum3747
@aurum3747 2 жыл бұрын
People would possibly dislike it more, since it would be less known and there would be way less people who played it as a child (You can notice that there's a good amount of fans of this game that played back in the time) It'd be this unknown nes game some would call a hidden gem and most who tried their hands at it would shy away, it being zelda is the reason most give it a shot in the first place
@lunarluce5215
@lunarluce5215 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that the dislike around Zelda 2 was less because it was different, and more because it was grindy, cryptic, and difficult to the point of being unfair. I mean, BOTW and MM are quite different to a typical Zelda game, but people love those games. Not that Zelda 2 is an awful game with no redeeming quality’s, but the problems with it run much deeper than it simply being different.
@pcmk1843
@pcmk1843 2 жыл бұрын
@@lunarluce5215 The thing with Zelda 2 is that while it initially appears difficult and cryptic, once you get a feel for it, it becomes an incredibly fun game. It’s not bad, it just takes a minute to get used to.
@homerman76
@homerman76 2 жыл бұрын
@@pcmk1843 Idk, even after replaying the game I don't have a very high opinion of it. I don't consider the game garbage or anything, but it definitely is my second from the bottom in the series (the worst game in the series, in my opinion, is Spirit Tracks, though I can be swayed to throw Triforce Heroes below Zelda 2, kind of depends on my mood.)
@krvys7226
@krvys7226 2 жыл бұрын
As a guy who does say Zelda 2 is the worst Zelda game, let the Record show that is not a mark against it as a game. independent of the series it is a part of, it is a reasonable, albeit difficult game for the era in which it came out. If anything, it just showcases how consistent the Zelda series is with its quality. I feel it's really only lacking when compared to other Zelda games.
@KairuHakubi
@KairuHakubi 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah there's no shame in being the worst when the rest are that great.
@Level_Eleven
@Level_Eleven 2 жыл бұрын
Still better than Triforce Heroes IMO
@krvys7226
@krvys7226 2 жыл бұрын
@@Level_Eleven legit forgot that game existed
@rpgfanatic9719
@rpgfanatic9719 2 жыл бұрын
@@Level_Eleven Triforce heroes is fun online, too bad no one plays it anymore.
@bfj2048
@bfj2048 Жыл бұрын
Idk, I don’t like it even when compared to other games. Just isn’t fun. Unfair enemies, overworld is confusing, not enough hints as to where things are. Finding things on my own is great and all, but not when I don’t even know it exists.
@TheHarDeOne
@TheHarDeOne 2 жыл бұрын
Defend It is my guilty pleasure, I can't help but hit the link button whenever the Internet is on screen. He's living the dream, he ain't got no pants! Just like Link in Zelda 2!
@omarvilla4243
@omarvilla4243 2 жыл бұрын
Jirard: just wants to play TLOZ2 Court: summons Jirard Fans: Here we go again!🙄
@Sei-No-More
@Sei-No-More 2 жыл бұрын
The Last of Zelda 2. Gotta find the cure to save Hyrule from the Mushroom Kingdom's Invasion.
@niahoad
@niahoad 2 жыл бұрын
The internet is a wild and judgemental place
@thatitalianlameguy2235
@thatitalianlameguy2235 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sei-No-More sheik beats up zelda after murdering link
@uberculex
@uberculex 2 жыл бұрын
Legitimate criticism that I can think of. You can get all the way to the final boss without the super hidden final spell (you have to find an item that allows you to remove forest tiles and use that item on a specific tile in the middle of nowhere to find a town). The super hidden final spell makes the boss able to be hit. This wouldn't be an issue if you could get out of the dungeon and back easily. It is a slog full of floating enemies that move at random intervals over instant death traps while you have knockback on every hit that would make Simon Belmont blush. I don't know, I never really liked the defend it series. It feels a bit too strawmanish for my taste. The internet always has the worst arguments even when I agree with Jirard.
@canuckj8382
@canuckj8382 2 жыл бұрын
You raise a valid point but the item in question is the hammer, you can’t even go the second island without the hammer so the player should have the hammer by the time they reach the area with the super secret hidden town
@SeveredLegs
@SeveredLegs 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's really unlikely that you wouldn't know you were missing a final spell. Firstly, there'd be a gap in the inventory. Second, there's a totally obvious town near the 6th Palace that you'd totally end up investigating. And if you got the message from the old man saying you weren't strong enough (or whatever he says), you'd know there was other stuff to find. And I think the old man tells you to look in the woods to the east or something to that effect? And even if you weren't totally sure where it was (I didn't know as a kid at first, when I was like, 8), you'd have ended up going through that cave that leads to New/Hidden Kasuto and you'd see a dead end with trees.....you'd be like me and try to hack down all those trees. I wasn't some genius, and I figured it out. It's not easy, no. But if you've gotten that far in the game, I think it's likely you'd figure it out. There are Dragon Quest tiles that are more obscure and people still find those crests in DQ2...and that damned Water Flying Cloth in the Dragon Horn North Tower. So basically, I think finding the Thunder spell sort of "just happens."
@nintendokings
@nintendokings 2 жыл бұрын
Zelda II is a really good NES game, honestly one of the best. It’s just a bit too difficult and obscure with progression (use a guide and solved), and is extremely different to other Zeldas. I genuinely think it’s more fun than Skyward Sword for example
@brycevorreyer279
@brycevorreyer279 2 жыл бұрын
Also, so much love for Ted. He is used as the but of so many jokes. But he has my support for his 'unique' ways!!!
@dragon1130
@dragon1130 2 жыл бұрын
We need to give Ted an honorary beard. He definitely deserves it.
@DukeofGames50
@DukeofGames50 2 жыл бұрын
Each group of KZbin personalities always has that butt of the joke friend. No matter what end of KZbin you end up in. My examples are: Ted from Beard Bros and Completionist Wade/Lordminion777 from Markiplier and Friends WhosChaos from (pro gaming team) Team Kaliber's Goonsquad Torien the 3D animator from Death Battle/Cast
@lukegto
@lukegto 2 жыл бұрын
The Zelda ii story always amazes me. I never once got an inkling zelda II was divisive until the 2010's. Then suddenly everyone hates it. At least jirard knows whats up
@RobinDJoker
@RobinDJoker 2 жыл бұрын
"X is the worst Zelda game, and is barely a Zelda game at all" *Looks at Breath of The Wild detractors* Hmm, now why does that sound familiar?
@Raidraptor_-_Ultimate_Falcon
@Raidraptor_-_Ultimate_Falcon 2 жыл бұрын
Except that BotW isn't even a Zelda game.
@armzngunz
@armzngunz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Raidraptor_-_Ultimate_Falcon it is tho
@RobinDJoker
@RobinDJoker 2 жыл бұрын
@@Raidraptor_-_Ultimate_Falcon ...... And I rest my case. Thank you for proving exactly what I just said
@Raidraptor_-_Ultimate_Falcon
@Raidraptor_-_Ultimate_Falcon 2 жыл бұрын
@@RobinDJoker Anything prior to BotW felt like a Zelda game and still had the spirit of Zelda. Breath decided to forgo everything and also managed to forget a story as well.
@Shinntoku
@Shinntoku 2 жыл бұрын
My hot take has always been than Zelda 2 is no worse than Zelda 1, it's just a different style of gameplay
@Shinntoku
@Shinntoku 2 жыл бұрын
@A B huh? That's *exactly* the point I was making, that Zelda 2 isn't worse than Zelda 1 just because of the style?
@Shinntoku
@Shinntoku 2 жыл бұрын
@A B that's just a really bad reading. If anything I'm actually saying Zelda 1 is worse than people think, Zelda 2 just gets singled out for being "weird" because it's a side-scroller
@joek5882
@joek5882 2 жыл бұрын
This game is quite good and I love having it in my collection. Those who complain about it's difficulty (Ghosts and Goblins, Rygar, Metroid etc. ) were/are wusses. This is the type of game that put hair on our balls. You had to work for this one.
@coreymyers5321
@coreymyers5321 2 жыл бұрын
Double jeopardy has no say in the court of the internet. The internet is forever. Nothing is forgotten or forgiven.
@BR-jw7pm
@BR-jw7pm 2 жыл бұрын
What happens on the internet stays on the internet
@Goldenkitten1
@Goldenkitten1 2 жыл бұрын
Well...until the nuclear, asteroid, super volcano apocalypse...
@BR-jw7pm
@BR-jw7pm 2 жыл бұрын
Goldenkitten1 you’re a half glass empty kinda guy. Maybe humanity will die of natural causes.
@Goldenkitten1
@Goldenkitten1 2 жыл бұрын
@@BR-jw7pm ...hate to break it to you, other than nuclear the other two I listed ARE natural causes.
@BR-jw7pm
@BR-jw7pm 2 жыл бұрын
Goldenkitten1 doh!
@rlynch1980
@rlynch1980 2 жыл бұрын
I think if this was any other game it would be remembered as an innovative classic. But because it’s a Zelda game, the series that is probably the most beloved of all time, it’s just seen as mediocre. When I was a kid I had no perception of how “bad” the game was. They just gave us a Zelda game, and I played it until I beat it. I do remember it being insanely difficult - the part on Death Mountain with the maze to find the hammer took me weeks. But that was just the way it was back then. This was kind of the Dark Souls of games back then. The dark atmosphere a long with the punishing difficulty made it extremely intimidating, but when I beat it I felt so satisfied.
@icydeath0000
@icydeath0000 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to see Defend It return, even if it's just for one episode. Well done to all those involved.
@lucasfreire1090
@lucasfreire1090 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe it's back!
@caillet14
@caillet14 2 жыл бұрын
Defend It! It’s back? If it is I’m hyped!
@playin4power
@playin4power 2 жыл бұрын
Jirard is looking so fit!! I love you man keep it up! And keep kicking ass on G4, seriously i'm so excited to see how you and G4 grow in the future
@CausticSauce
@CausticSauce 2 жыл бұрын
i need more "defend it" in my life. i forgot this series was a thing on here.
@koozmusic
@koozmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, Zelda 2 frickin' slaps. I was never able to beat it on the NES as a kid (I even had a Game Genie, LOL), but back in the early 2000's my wife and I got through it 100% legit on the Gamecube, and it felt so good, and it was awesome. Side note: is the "prosecutor" purposefully saying the Adventure*s* of link? If so, nice touch.
@ObsessedwithZelda2
@ObsessedwithZelda2 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I really enjoyed Zelda II, potentially more than the DS games I think unless you really enjoy exploration and stuff, play with a guide, and that takes care of the hardest aspect of the game I’m exceptionally poor at reaction time and all the traditional game skills, but I was able to beat it with some strategizing and abuse of bit/bot(?) spawners Also the ‘send you back to the start’ point isn’t as bad as it sounds, because unlike a lot of games of the era, at least with the GC collection version I played, you don’t actually lose progress. You still have all items you collected and dungeons you completed, you just have to walk back to where you were. It’s been years, but I remember sometimes dying on purpose just to have my lives refilled to three before I did something like fight a boss, start a hard area with low lives, etc, and I remember that being extremely worthwhile
@reeebvc
@reeebvc 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda love this repeat crossover, what a neat idea! So cool! Great stuff Jirard!
@terretsforever
@terretsforever 2 жыл бұрын
My kid recently started Ace Attorney & Loved all the vibes you emulated here
@thomasplummer8103
@thomasplummer8103 2 жыл бұрын
I actually think the biggest issue with Zelda 2 was that its reach exceeded its grasp. Most of the problems with it would have been resolved by being a super nintendo game rather than NES. It needed more space for text, a few more buttons, and a slightly better interface. I think it tried too much, and went too far for what it was meant to be.
@leargamma4912
@leargamma4912 Жыл бұрын
Wrong. Best game on the nes
@27Bayleefs
@27Bayleefs 2 жыл бұрын
I agreed with the internet on this one. I did not enjoy Zelda 2 that much, hell I hated it, and to this day have never finished it, but Damn that speech by Jirard made me appreciate it more.
@jaredwhitaker3601
@jaredwhitaker3601 2 жыл бұрын
I actually loved the music in this episode... Great job
@jamescanjuggle
@jamescanjuggle 2 жыл бұрын
honestly after being introduced to the game through Game Grumps i just loved the music
@DivineDragoon
@DivineDragoon 2 жыл бұрын
Zelda II had some interesting ideas and plenty of experimentation, which isn't inherently good or bad, but the execution was horrendous. It's not trash or the worst game of all time but it's also not a good game. If you like it despite all it's flaws, nothing wrong with that, I also like the game. I'm also not gonna give it a pass either BECAUSE I like it. I would love to see an RPG set in the world of Zelda but I don't want it in the style presented in Zelda II.
@misterknite
@misterknite 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew Campbell is easily one of my all time favourites! Cracks my shit up every time.
@fyzxnerd
@fyzxnerd 2 жыл бұрын
I love this, so much. Thank you for the memories.
@wariogotdeleted
@wariogotdeleted 5 ай бұрын
Court drama skit didn’t pan out too well lmao
@smactork
@smactork 2 жыл бұрын
please bring back defend it
@potatoman6588
@potatoman6588 2 жыл бұрын
Zelda 2 has better combat then Zelda 1 and Zelda 1 is just as confusing as Zelda 2.
@zake64
@zake64 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I get that the OG Zelda was revolutionary and all, but it's so archaic that it's simply not fun to play for more than like 10 minutes at a time imo
@yamidom9134
@yamidom9134 2 жыл бұрын
Dude awesome video, hope to see more like it.
@DIRTY-MERLIN
@DIRTY-MERLIN 2 жыл бұрын
cant get over how amazing the new intro is
@Major0Blood
@Major0Blood 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I definitely didn't appreciate Zelda II. When I got older, I appreciated it more and actually beat it, which wasn't the easiest feat.
@connerkline6269
@connerkline6269 2 жыл бұрын
Gunna be honest, I tried playing Zelda II before finding out that the internet hated it and as a Zelda fan, I actually hate this game. It wasn’t fun to play, the grind was a pain, and I often had NO idea what I was doing. Not only that but later on you’re punished if you didn’t focus levels on magic because you NEED magic to even damage enemies and your spells don’t carry over between screens but your depleted magic does. I personally hated it. Others might not, but I did.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos 2 жыл бұрын
I think Cloud fell asleep back there and is covering it with sunglasses.
@romulofigueroadiaz480
@romulofigueroadiaz480 2 жыл бұрын
Omg defend it is back!
@handgun559
@handgun559 2 жыл бұрын
AVGN convinced me to play Zelda 2 on my collectors edition way back when I was a kid and I've never regretted it. It's such a good RPG, and a worthy Zelda game. I'd also like to add that Zelda 2 introduced the dungeons AS the puzzle. Aside from death mountain you eventually will find your way in Zelda 1. But Zelda 2 introduced a concept that'd come back hard for 3D Zelda games. Makes it into my top 10 somewhere. Fuck it; 8. Put it behind Minish Cap.
@Hyggyldy
@Hyggyldy 2 жыл бұрын
I want Jirard to complete a Fishing game for April fool's and give it a rating of "Fishin it"
@Sonickeyblade00
@Sonickeyblade00 2 жыл бұрын
Had to make sure to like this video just because it brings back the "Defend It" part of The Completionist that introduced me to this channel and I love it. It also is the only ongoing "Phoenix Wright" skit(s) going on that I know of. Love that series. And as someone that isn't super attached to the Zelda formula... I'd love to see a remake of Zelda 2 or another 2D side-scrolling "Metroidvania" Zelda game. Ever since I played Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night, I'd love to see more 2.5D Metroidvania games. And the Zelda franchise already has an "excuse" to give it a go. Also, it reminds me of playing Link in the Subspace Emisssary, which was the most fun I had with that mode in Super Smash Bros Brawl. So long story short, I'd love to see a remake or sequel to the gameplay of Zelda 2, that looks (or feels) like playing Link in the Subspace Story Mode from Brawl, with a Metroidvania twist.
@sopranophantomista
@sopranophantomista 2 жыл бұрын
We honestly need to see Judge Cox way more often. This was an awesome revisit, thank you so much for recreating the fun of the original!
@TheRealZura
@TheRealZura 2 жыл бұрын
Worst Zelda game? *Zelda’s Adventure enters the chat
@BensyBens
@BensyBens 2 жыл бұрын
Tri-force heroes enters the chat
@Level_Eleven
@Level_Eleven 2 жыл бұрын
@@BensyBens FR either the internet legit forgot about that game or somehow liked it?
@legendofjess6044
@legendofjess6044 2 жыл бұрын
@@Level_Eleven Why the hate for Triforce Heroes? Sure it’s different from the norm for the series but unless you’re playing it on your own I’d say it’s a really fun time
@mikemustmurder
@mikemustmurder 2 жыл бұрын
Why give this a completionist rating of finish it? You have to find all the magic containers to get the last spell so the only difference between finishing the game and completing it are finding a couple of heart containers. This is the only game I would rather complete than just finish.
@UltimateGamerCC
@UltimateGamerCC 2 жыл бұрын
because he didnt like having to scour the world for the remaining powerups or doing the XP grind to max level.
@legendofjess6044
@legendofjess6044 2 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateGamerCC I think it’s really dumb he always considers getting to max level part of completion lol
@UltimateGamerCC
@UltimateGamerCC 2 жыл бұрын
@@legendofjess6044 well 100% completion means that you have to do all that there is to be done, you dont get to skip something and call a game complete just because you think it's tedious or pointless.
@Shalakor
@Shalakor 2 жыл бұрын
But, yeah, completion is easier than just finishing.
@stevenhaefner7686
@stevenhaefner7686 2 жыл бұрын
Ayy, new Completionist! Nice!
@wiper7000
@wiper7000 2 жыл бұрын
Man I love these defend it series xD I really hope they will come back!
@Rikarious
@Rikarious 2 жыл бұрын
Ted should have called him JEERD THE FINNISHIST, but i know he hates that shit
@Christopher-md7tf
@Christopher-md7tf 2 жыл бұрын
Even every seemingly "positive" thing Jirard said about the game just made me want to play it less and less lol. Also, that argument of "It's easy to pick your battles because you can see enemies in the overworld" is nonsense. You can see (and fight) enemies in the overworld in every other Zelda title as well. If anything, it's harder to pick your battles in Zelda II because you don't know where the shadows are going to appear, and they will chase you down.
@KairuHakubi
@KairuHakubi 2 жыл бұрын
If it helps, he didn't quite point out that you don't literally start over with a game over, you just lose all your experience points _since the last level up_ which is still frustrating. and what's more, the game rewards you for saving up your XP and deliberately avoiding leveling up by giving you more options of what to raise, which makes it even more tense when you can just die to some bullshit. But it's still never a FULLY full-on retro-game 'game over' situation where you lose all your progress. I don't think anyone can really expect to pick this up and enjoy it unless they love simple retro games already. but it's not as bad as it sounds (even when it's being defended it usually does sound bad yeah). there's a youtube channel that fucks with code to make different shit happen in old games, like jump heights and respawn point behaviors, I wonder if that game could tweak Zelda 2 until it felt comfortable running and jumping around. Maybe give Link a longer fucking hurtbox for the sword.
@rpgfanatic9719
@rpgfanatic9719 2 жыл бұрын
@@KairuHakubi All you have to do is duck into the roads when they ambush you.
@KairuHakubi
@KairuHakubi 2 жыл бұрын
@@rpgfanatic9719 I think you meant to reply to Christopher. i forget how well that does or doesn't work.
@rpgfanatic9719
@rpgfanatic9719 2 жыл бұрын
@@KairuHakubi Yep, oh well.
@MrsDizarky
@MrsDizarky 2 жыл бұрын
I could not be more hyped for this!
@Artista_Frustrado
@Artista_Frustrado 2 жыл бұрын
im so happy to see Defend it return
@solidskullz5736
@solidskullz5736 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Zelda 2 is hard as hell, anyone who can beat it legit is a beast
@pointedspider
@pointedspider 2 жыл бұрын
It's so easy!
@jetthejudge
@jetthejudge 2 жыл бұрын
@@pointedspider no...it definitely isn't
@diegoarmando5489
@diegoarmando5489 2 жыл бұрын
Hard compared to what? Other Zelda games? For the most part. Beating Phantasy Star 2 without the hint guide? Maybe. Finishing Devil Went Down to Georgia on Expert in Guitar Hero 3? Definitely not.
@anowhereguy2521
@anowhereguy2521 2 жыл бұрын
I've beaten that game for the first time back in the day when I was about 7 years old. I can't remember how long it took me but I did it. It's hard but it's definitely not one of the hardest game on the NES. I also had games like TMNT and Ghosts'N Goblins in my collection and I was never able to beat those!
@jetthejudge
@jetthejudge 2 жыл бұрын
@@diegoarmando5489 Guitar Hero III any song on Expert is easier for me but that varies person to person.
@jeffcox6539
@jeffcox6539 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't help but notice some of the background characters had 3 frames of animation while most used 2.
@jcservantw6496
@jcservantw6496 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great vid.
@whodatninja439
@whodatninja439 2 жыл бұрын
very nice bringing back Defend It!!
@AngryAtlantean
@AngryAtlantean 2 жыл бұрын
"Even Miyamoto says the game is trash. Therefore, Zelda 2 is trash." Yeah, as if there haven't been other games the creators hated that were actually fantastic.
@L33PL4Y
@L33PL4Y 2 жыл бұрын
Films, too. The director of American History X hated it but it's an amazing film. Kubrick hated Fear and Desire, but that movie is fantastic, especially for being his first film.
@kingofthesharks
@kingofthesharks 2 жыл бұрын
Always thought "The Adventure of Link" implies the 1st LoZ was not an adventure lol
@paulfraley9767
@paulfraley9767 2 жыл бұрын
Not so much that the first game wasn’t an adventure, just that the second game wasn’t a legend.
@Nikketsinne
@Nikketsinne 2 жыл бұрын
You two deserve some serious money for what you said here 😄
@greatpotterland
@greatpotterland 2 жыл бұрын
I mean...if you look at how far link travels in zelda 2 compared to the first game canonically, it does make zelda 1 feel like a light jog trough the park
@esteper
@esteper 2 жыл бұрын
You just convinced me to give it a try, thanks man!
@TehSymbiote
@TehSymbiote 2 жыл бұрын
1st zelda game I've ever played. Never beat it but always loved it and all the music
@1995Jamar
@1995Jamar 2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to defending Zelda II, my main point will always be that "There was no *set in stone* formula for what Zelda was supposed to be" as it was only the second game in the series. I see nothing wrong with experimenting with something like that. *Zelda II walked so Ocarina of Time could run*
@jakejutras5420
@jakejutras5420 2 жыл бұрын
What? Link To The Past walked so OoT could run is more apt.
@UltimateGamerCC
@UltimateGamerCC 2 жыл бұрын
agreed, Zelda was not cemented for having a specific gameplay style. hell Castlevania had the same hiccup, giving people an experience that was greatly different from the first game.
@Christopher-md7tf
@Christopher-md7tf 2 жыл бұрын
That's true, but that doesn't automatically make it good. Failed experiments are very much a thing, and, considering that the series never went back to this specific formula, that's what I would call Zelda II. And I really don't know what OoT has to do with anything here.
@Dyundu
@Dyundu 2 жыл бұрын
Hear hear!
@justinbuergi9867
@justinbuergi9867 2 жыл бұрын
As hated as this game was, Nintendo deserves huge props for realizing their mistake and going back to the original instead of scrapping the series or doubling down on an even crazier less Zelda like game
@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269
@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269 2 жыл бұрын
I'm loving All the pixel art in this video.👍.... Hell, i love the pixel art in Every video i see on this channel.😄
@MissingTexture
@MissingTexture 2 жыл бұрын
Most underrated channel on KZbin
@flipsidecbp
@flipsidecbp 2 жыл бұрын
Zelda 2 is still one of my favorite games of all time. Yeah, it's hard as hell, but it's such a fun challenge and, really, I love me some RPG elements in my action platform games. I wish Nintendo had made a few more in this style; it could've basically been their fantasy Metroid series.
@JohnJones-jc6eg
@JohnJones-jc6eg 2 жыл бұрын
Internet says: "Zelda 2 is the worst game in the franchise" Zelda CDI says: "Hold my beer... ALL 3 of them!"
@stalkermike
@stalkermike Жыл бұрын
Oh God. 🤣 Lol I've missed you having Jesse as the judge in these episodes. I love these defend it episodes almost as much as your regular episodes. Also just to put it out there this was always one of my favorite Zelda games. The side scrolling seemed fun to me.
@Ry22futbol
@Ry22futbol 2 жыл бұрын
I am so excited for the Game and Watch version of this!
@BR-jw7pm
@BR-jw7pm 2 жыл бұрын
As a long time Zelda fan, I fee there are no bad Zelda games, only ones weaker than others.
@renatocorvaro6924
@renatocorvaro6924 2 жыл бұрын
Zelda 2 is hands down one of the best Zelda games.
@pippogriffthegreat7003
@pippogriffthegreat7003 2 жыл бұрын
HUGE PLAYS. DEFEND IT IS BACK BABY!
@dudds6699
@dudds6699 2 жыл бұрын
That sweet child of mine intro of the games music
@moshi1224
@moshi1224 2 жыл бұрын
Its impressive someone is defending Zelda 2, but not as impressive as beating this game in 8 deaths. How the heck is that even possible
@LilJeezyLoC
@LilJeezyLoC 2 жыл бұрын
How did he do it in 4 hrs??!!!!
@Warrior_of_Fire
@Warrior_of_Fire 2 жыл бұрын
@@LilJeezyLoC Jirard's just that good.
@jeremybraden5558
@jeremybraden5558 2 жыл бұрын
It is actually one of my favorite Zelda games
@moedog
@moedog 2 жыл бұрын
I played this game without a guide , it’s still one of my favorites , to this day I beat this once a year .
@deltaprime3509
@deltaprime3509 2 жыл бұрын
It’s been awhile since since he has done defend it video and it’s cool to see.
@buchiklop110
@buchiklop110 2 жыл бұрын
Zelda 2's biggest problem is that it's on the NES. The system is just not powerful enough to do the game justice. It desperately needs a modern remake, much moreso than the Oracle games.
@burgervonstadt6503
@burgervonstadt6503 2 жыл бұрын
I've definitely come around on this game. I think people hate it because they believe they're just supposed to. If you look at it in it's context, it's not a bad game. It's not great by any means, but it's not nearly as bad as the internet wants you to believe. The music marinates my soul in nostalgia to this day.
@Brandon_S.
@Brandon_S. 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I totally remember the Defend It series!! That shit was huge plays man, those were the days...
@RustyShacklefordIrishHipHop
@RustyShacklefordIrishHipHop 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent episode
@thevideogamebrothers3006
@thevideogamebrothers3006 2 жыл бұрын
Zelda II is a masterpiece. I will never stop spreading the gospel of this game. It is true that it is impossible without a guide, but that's part of what made it so great. You had to dig deep into Nintendo Power issues to try and finish it. It created conversations on the playground, and in the neighborhood. It took a community effort to finish it, but when you finally beat it, oh- what a glorious moment! Cheers.
@metalicarus8372
@metalicarus8372 2 жыл бұрын
yeah but it sucks to play on Switch without a manual
@pcmk1843
@pcmk1843 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t actually say it’s impossible without a guide. I was able to beat the game for the first time a few years back and I only used external help like, once or twice. Regardless, Zelda 2 is incredibly underrated and I at the very least like it way more than the first game.
@UltimateGamerCC
@UltimateGamerCC 2 жыл бұрын
as usual, the Internet has a meltdown over an opinion, hence this episode. lol
@bryce13950
@bryce13950 2 жыл бұрын
Finishing this game for the first time today. What a happy coincidence!
@613aristocrat
@613aristocrat 2 жыл бұрын
That Keen 4C pogo jump was the best.
@DrunkMoblin
@DrunkMoblin 2 жыл бұрын
If you don’t like Zelda 2, that’s fine. Just admit that it’s too hard for you.
@donshovi9345
@donshovi9345 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason I can't explain why we live in a society where gamers don't rule the world
@LupinticDream
@LupinticDream 2 жыл бұрын
Gamers rise up.
@donshovi9345
@donshovi9345 2 жыл бұрын
@@LupinticDream the revolution has begun
@SternSupremacy
@SternSupremacy 2 жыл бұрын
*recalls the Internet bullying a movie studio for making a terrible Sonic* We don’t???
@donshovi9345
@donshovi9345 2 жыл бұрын
@@SternSupremacy we will rule the world... someday
@elliesanders5525
@elliesanders5525 2 жыл бұрын
If games taking over reality is the first step in the robot revolution or even if it's not I'm okay with both I say let the games win
@EricNowWatches
@EricNowWatches 2 жыл бұрын
You’re looking really good, Jirard! Glad that you’re doing well!
@andrewbehrens3540
@andrewbehrens3540 2 жыл бұрын
I feel old because this was my second zelda game, as it was the squeal to the first one. My second video game ever
@calebkidd692
@calebkidd692 2 жыл бұрын
That double jeopardy joke is kind of ironic seeing as Bill Cosby just got released for the same reason.
@KairuHakubi
@KairuHakubi 2 жыл бұрын
finally. god they've been trying to ruin him for decades. All because he's the only celebrity who actually STOPPED doing messed up shit and started trying to preach integrity and personal responsibility.
@bigbromiki1
@bigbromiki1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, double jeopardy didn’t really have anything to do with him getting released. It was more on shady techniques used by prosecutors
@calebkidd692
@calebkidd692 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigbromiki1 he literally got out because the Pennsylvania Supreme Court found the charges in violation of the 5th amendment. Which covers double jeopardy.
@bigbromiki1
@bigbromiki1 2 жыл бұрын
@@calebkidd692 it violated his fifth amendment right to not incriminate himself not anything About double jeopardy
@KairuHakubi
@KairuHakubi 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigbromiki1 shady techniques indeed. They literally changed it so there's no more statute of limitations on the 'crime' in question, _after the existing statute of limitations had passed._ that's so far beyond unconstitutional there isn't even a word for it.
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