The Real Boogeyman of Modern Gaming

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NovemberHotel

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Modern Gaming in 2024 has enough problems already. Throwing Sweet Baby Inc into the mix does nothing but make things worse. This might be one of the biggest reasons Modern Gaming Writing, Dialogue, UI and UX are all bad, among other problems with game design.
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@CriticalNobody
@CriticalNobody 6 ай бұрын
Harassment in 2024 = posting a list of games a company worked on that was already public on that company’s website
@NovemberHotel
@NovemberHotel 6 ай бұрын
Truly pathetic times we live in. Btw love the channel man!
@AxisChurchDevotee
@AxisChurchDevotee 6 ай бұрын
People these days are pathetically fragile.
@trashjash
@trashjash 6 ай бұрын
​@@AxisChurchDevotee I wouldn't exactly describe the ones offended by being exposed to sunlight here "people".
@AxisChurchDevotee
@AxisChurchDevotee 6 ай бұрын
@@trashjash Zealots is what I'd call them tbh.
@arthurmorgan1177
@arthurmorgan1177 6 ай бұрын
Yea, Craig do the MGS video.
@shiningdragon8737
@shiningdragon8737 6 ай бұрын
Blackrock and Vanguard, the real villains.
@zvolchen117
@zvolchen117 6 ай бұрын
You know you're the bad guy if that's your name
@Soundwave142
@Soundwave142 6 ай бұрын
Also do not forget the WEF, who invented ESG.
@celozzip
@celozzip 6 ай бұрын
cool it with the anti-semitic remarks.
@davidfrancisco3502
@davidfrancisco3502 6 ай бұрын
​@@Soundwave142BlackRock CEO Larry Fink is a member Of the WEF.
@shinigamil4843
@shinigamil4843 6 ай бұрын
Embracer group too, i was so mad when they canceled the new deus ex game which was 2 yrs in development i think..
@digitaldevil7522
@digitaldevil7522 6 ай бұрын
Diversity in and of itself is not a bad thing. Diversity for diversity sake is a bad thing. Example 1. If I write a story set in the past, about Vikings in Norway, a diverse cast doesn't make sense. It would hurt the narrative. People are not happy. Example 2. If I write a story set in the past, about Vikings traveling the world, a more diverse cast makes sense. No one has a problem.
@NovemberHotel
@NovemberHotel 6 ай бұрын
Precisely.
@Dayz3O6
@Dayz3O6 6 ай бұрын
but muh black female queenzz vikingz that google ai tole me about
@itsjustme4039
@itsjustme4039 6 ай бұрын
And I bet it took you like 5 seconds to come up with that! 😭 I would play any game you’d make
@GenericProtagonist7
@GenericProtagonist7 6 ай бұрын
You can even get away with the first one if you do it sparingly; Make the diverse characters into travelers, adventurers, merchants, etc. make the fact they're in the environment to begin with make sense, not just making a medieval European knight, born and raised in a knights order, into a black woman. If I was playing a game about Vikings and saw a small camp with a few black people around it, and approach them to find out that they're traveling merchants who are entirely new to the area, have no connections to the land, barely speak the local language, and completely stand out from the local cultures aesthetic in the games universe I'd think it was pretty cool, similar to the Khajiit caravan in Skyrim.
@kidkangaroo5213
@kidkangaroo5213 6 ай бұрын
"No one has a problem" Yeah, nobody ever complained about diversity in globe-trotting adventures, like for example One Piece /s
@hasanwaseem1965
@hasanwaseem1965 6 ай бұрын
The thing is video games should take more risks in their writing. For example, GTA 4 shows the problems with society with its seriousness, reflecting on our world.
@eeedddd5738
@eeedddd5738 6 ай бұрын
Hopefully rockstar hasn’t gone soft and we get the Same type of writing for gta 6 .
@hasanwaseem1965
@hasanwaseem1965 6 ай бұрын
​@@eeedddd5738 Yes hopefully, however, the satire in GTA 6 will be definitely different. Because society already satirized itself as said by a Rockstar dev.
@eeedddd5738
@eeedddd5738 6 ай бұрын
@@hasanwaseem1965yes true but in the next gen versions of gta 5 rockstar removed their own satire. They removed the trans npcs from the game where your character could say funny things to them .
@hasanwaseem1965
@hasanwaseem1965 6 ай бұрын
​@@eeedddd5738 Yeah that is a valid point tbh
@eeedddd5738
@eeedddd5738 6 ай бұрын
@@hasanwaseem1965I just hope that this game is still written by Dan houser .
@deej751
@deej751 6 ай бұрын
Sweet baby inc are a bunch of fake gamers.
@阿正-g8e
@阿正-g8e 6 ай бұрын
nah they are just a group of weirdo, they don't even play game, just a bunch of idiots think they can write a "good" story
@maxentirunos
@maxentirunos 6 ай бұрын
Seeing some of them come directly from the gamergate journalists, I can only confirm They are activist that disguise themselves as writters.
@ajhill6655
@ajhill6655 6 ай бұрын
we call them tourist.
@Soundwave142
@Soundwave142 6 ай бұрын
Just like "gaming journalists."
@celozzip
@celozzip 6 ай бұрын
gay moors
@tomhuitema2068
@tomhuitema2068 6 ай бұрын
Personally think these ESG funds days are limited. They've collapsed in Japan, and investors in the west are starting to lose patience with the lower returns.
@Zynet_Eseled
@Zynet_Eseled 6 ай бұрын
Keep up the heat
@FelpudoChannel
@FelpudoChannel 6 ай бұрын
@@Zynet_EseledDude, the point is that they're irelevant, jesus! They were never that big of a deal! Hello?
@Zynet_Eseled
@Zynet_Eseled 6 ай бұрын
@@FelpudoChannel so why are we not getting any more good games from the big companies. It's all just pandering stuff or mtx shitshows. If they just sit down, and focus solely on making the best fucking video game possible, they'd make so much more. We need burnout back, to full force
@wck
@wck 6 ай бұрын
this video is greatly overestimating how determinative ESG scores are to investors. BlackRock is the world's largest asset manager. They hold 10 trillion dollars in assets. If you think a company that monumental is deciding where to park their massive investment funds by looking at a wokeness and diversity score, you've completely lost the plot.
@IvanSal778
@IvanSal778 6 ай бұрын
​@wck yeah this video was so close to realizing what is wrong with "modern video games" its not "wokeness" it's the fuckint money grubbing ceos and shareholders who add shit in games to make them more financially successful instead of making the game good.
@davidnone8951
@davidnone8951 6 ай бұрын
Stop buying these games and they will stop making them.
@CleeshoeArt
@CleeshoeArt 6 ай бұрын
Yes that's how stop it.
@breadogi7118
@breadogi7118 6 ай бұрын
It's not gonna work, blackrock vanguard is too big to fail
@EdyAlbertoMSGT3
@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 6 ай бұрын
There's people that unironically enjoy Starfield. It's over.
@iroquoiskaram8639
@iroquoiskaram8639 6 ай бұрын
​@@EdyAlbertoMSGT3yeah there are genuine manlets out there supporting mediocre cash grabs and religiously defending them
@mapowey
@mapowey 6 ай бұрын
@@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 the uniformed are doomed to fall in line. ignorant to any possibility of something better.
@Karolestube
@Karolestube 6 ай бұрын
Female gamer here. You guys think it’s bad watching those forced inserts in narrative as male audience, imagine being a girl and the only “relatable” character is a bullshit mary sue with an under the nose plot that’s literally calling the players idiots 😑 those companies have no respect for the writers, designers or developers. If the development company wants to target a diverse audience instead of the classic regular joe, why don’t they choose a diverse story in itself? That’s how Disney ruined star wars, marvel and even legacy titles of their franchises and I’m just waiting for their collapse with popcorn in hand.
@cmckevitt
@cmckevitt 6 ай бұрын
2:17 “Having a female protagonist doesn’t make a game woke, having a gay character doesn’t make a game woke.” THANK YOU, FINALLY SOMEONE WITH COMMON SENSE! I’m tired of seeing losers call GTA 6 woke for having a female playable character, but I’m also tired of all this forced diversity. Thank you for being an actual normal middle of the road dude.
@112523
@112523 6 ай бұрын
Those gta fanboys should go back and play the ballad of gay tony. Best part of gta4 imo
@GoulagInamte777
@GoulagInamte777 6 ай бұрын
It's not that GTA 6 is woke because of the female protagonist, it's more the fact that they're going to sanitize the jokes for "modern sensibilities" or whatever.
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 5 ай бұрын
@@GoulagInamte777 Yeah the good majoirty of people aren't saying gta 6 is woke because of the female protagonist. its a just a strawman used by people who want to discredit the otherside as ists and phobes. People are calling it woke because of the reports coming out before the release of the game claiming that rockstar was being "sanitized" by SBI like people.
@chaz9808
@chaz9808 6 ай бұрын
now we know why so many games lately have sucked so bad
@shagal2142
@shagal2142 6 ай бұрын
Yep now people know who really destroyed battlefield 2042 or Battlefield 5.
@carpathianhermit7228
@carpathianhermit7228 6 ай бұрын
Not exclusively sweet baby Inc. Other factors
@ziljin
@ziljin 6 ай бұрын
CEOs pushing heavy monetization, no QA for buggy games, and crunching deadlines to release games that are unfinished. Greed ruins everything.
@inventor4279
@inventor4279 6 ай бұрын
You have literally just been served a 30+ minute video with fake information and gamer gate propaganda from 2015, this guy is a smelly incel hahhahahah
@ninja1man4u
@ninja1man4u 6 ай бұрын
Glad more people are spreading awareness of these hacks. It unfortunately will lead to them probably rebranding themselves and still being a problem but with videos like yours and that steam curator goes a long way to help us consumers take back a hobby we love from these dorks
@Soundwave142
@Soundwave142 6 ай бұрын
Speaking of rebranding, ItsaGundam in a video said the SBI is Femminist Frequency rebranded.
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 6 ай бұрын
It's positive they will rebrand it again
@pankothompson5903
@pankothompson5903 6 ай бұрын
this is going on in everything tv, movies, series, anime, work, hiring etc.
@Jaguar21010
@Jaguar21010 6 ай бұрын
Ironically it's helping people who are sick of it to put the mediums down all together and experience their lives more. I've cancelled most of my subscription services because it's all diversity for diversity's sake nowadays. And I don't buy garbage anymore. So now I go outside more often 😅. And when I'm inside.. I play indie games
@mightquinnable
@mightquinnable 6 ай бұрын
your reaching a little bit, it depends the money
@bradspringer2372
@bradspringer2372 6 ай бұрын
​@Jaguar21010 Good for you! I need to also unplug more often.
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 6 ай бұрын
​@@Jaguar21010 that's really good.
@TheBatman39
@TheBatman39 6 ай бұрын
I hope more people like you start disconnecting themselves from mass media and reach the Word of God
@Sicarius888
@Sicarius888 6 ай бұрын
I didn't expect even half how rotten gaming industry is. Huge investing funds giving billions so corporations can push the message and not care about customers and sales.
@levibull6063
@levibull6063 6 ай бұрын
Not to sound like that guy but if brain dead idiots just buy any game that comes out then it won't stop I can think of so many older games that was a blast But this was ps2 and xbox 360 times Remember a game called wet where you play as a girl .... well Bethesda don't want you to remember even though it was one of the best games they have made
@CapitalTeeth
@CapitalTeeth 6 ай бұрын
Let them make their mediocre slop. Sooner or later, people will grow tired of being lectured, or pandered to. Then watch them decline and beg the fans they've discarded to come back. In the meantime, we'll enjoy Helldivers 2. We'll enjoy BattleBit. We'll enjoy Lethal Company. We'll enjoy Baldur's Gate 3.
@reskretny20
@reskretny20 6 ай бұрын
we have to cancel sweet baby inc
@Yaxx5
@Yaxx5 6 ай бұрын
You sound just like them lol. Gl "canceling" a multibillion dollar company that has brought more real estate than you can count. We have been going through a NWO for quite some time and yet barly anyone has noticed. 2030
@TheAtkinson118
@TheAtkinson118 6 ай бұрын
I sort of agree..But I can't stand the word cancel in this context in the same way I can't stand the word WOKE!!.. I certainly agree with the sentiment though.. because gaming had been on a steep decline for years now..and this video explains,or at least gives a good insight for some of the reasons why.
@Dayz3O6
@Dayz3O6 6 ай бұрын
dont worry they will do it to themselves.
@Bluepenguin28
@Bluepenguin28 6 ай бұрын
you don't need to cancel them, you don't even have to argue with them on any platform, all these corporates cares about money, just don't give them your money and they'll left this "trend" on their behind.
@NetBattler
@NetBattler 6 ай бұрын
Count me in
@Vuvuzelas4life
@Vuvuzelas4life 6 ай бұрын
Who gave this company their fucking credentials in the first place
@rtablesaw
@rtablesaw 6 ай бұрын
Me
@TheBatman39
@TheBatman39 6 ай бұрын
Friends on high places
6 ай бұрын
You hit the nail in the head. You'd think that Vanguard and Blackrock would like to see a return on their investment, but they seem to be more than happy to have companies release subpar products, lose money and have people lose their job as long as (in Critical Drinker's voice) *_THE MESSAGE_* is spammed left and right and at the expense of just about everything else.
@sofieberger8851
@sofieberger8851 6 ай бұрын
The Brexit was the breaking point. They never want this to happen again. The message is more important than loosing another country. Who needs increase Coca Cola sales if you own Pepsi as well. They already have a monopoly. This changes the rules.
@slackstarfish8133
@slackstarfish8133 6 ай бұрын
Kill the Suicide Squad really pissed me off
@megamax898
@megamax898 6 ай бұрын
Justice League: Kill the Suicide Squad lol
@slackstarfish8133
@slackstarfish8133 6 ай бұрын
@@megamax898exactly
@112523
@112523 6 ай бұрын
You could've seen it from miles away tho. But then again, I fucking hate Harley Quinn and her entire character, she's always just annoying and for some reason they always give her the single most annoying voice a human being can have
@russianinvader3207
@russianinvader3207 6 ай бұрын
@@112523"You always gotta end on your best joke"
@IStillHaveDialUp
@IStillHaveDialUp 6 ай бұрын
I disagree that modern gaming is “woke” but is instead corporatized activism. If the company itself was more diverse it wouldn’t need outside consultants. Idk if they’re lying or not but Ubisoft even used to open Assassin’s creed games with a screen about how diverse they were. No one complained and that was 2007.
@Soundwave142
@Soundwave142 6 ай бұрын
"Don't go harassing Sweet Baby Inc or you'd be stooping to their level " You right not a good idea, even though I believe that some should get a taste of their own medicine, it is not even necessary anyway. Their meltdowns from the exposure to the Sun is satisfying enough and getting slapped back in the SBI Detected group. Interesting that they are still kicking after causing catastrophic failures in games and that they have been under the RADAR for so long. Well, we aren't really wrong for blaming the studios instead of SBI, the studios still allowed this. Speaking of financial catastrophes, I wonder how Blackrock and Vanguard will be able to keep it up, you invest to get money back, and they should be loosing money.
@Bluepenguin28
@Bluepenguin28 6 ай бұрын
yep, they are weaponizing the victimhood, if you harass them all they gonna do cover up stories on mainstream media (because they are supporting these groups nonstop) about how gamers are toxic and attacking this "innocent" company. don't make them happy, instead just ignore them on any platform and vote with your wallet.
@yourstrulli9089
@yourstrulli9089 6 ай бұрын
I’m sure they are but those trillions are gonna take a bit to burn through. I still see it happening though, they want to play the long game and hope people forget about it and start suckling their nips again. I say people have let this shit slide for too long and I hope we never stop pushing back until all 3 companies are bankrupt.
@cata1yct
@cata1yct 6 ай бұрын
When a company is worth 10 trillions of dollars, it is quite literally impossible to fail no matter how much we try avoiding their products. While video games may be their weakest hold over the industry since gamers are so careful now, their grasp over other forms of entertainment is absolutely dominating ie; movies & tv shows
@GothicSoldier9000
@GothicSoldier9000 3 ай бұрын
​@cata1yct 10 trillion dollars still doesn't = infinite funds. "Too big to fail" was a fallacy from the moment it was spoken. Name and shame. The best thing you can do is not allow YOURSELF to forget.
@blanck7457
@blanck7457 6 ай бұрын
When they got called out they went very crazy
@baki484
@baki484 6 ай бұрын
I usually don't care about engaging this identity politics stuff but Spider-man 2's creative director saying that they snuck on things gamer don't like and forcing them to like it (Doubling down on MJ missions, the BVA side missions and playing as Hailey Cooper in a spiderman game) rubbed me the wrong way. Then there's "I don't give a sh*t" statement pertaining to MJ gameplay. Then there is suicide squad kill the justice league... Yikes.
@oracle4722
@oracle4722 6 ай бұрын
just say you hate women and minorities, since they seem to upset you so much
@J0eMega
@J0eMega 6 ай бұрын
Accidental racism definitely doesn’t warrant an entire company to avoid. Most obvious offenses can be avoided with some google searches, but clearly some less obvious ones can and should be forgiven. I’m not going to think a studio is malicious, prejudiced, or even careless if they name something in the game that translates to something offensive in Swahili or some other language. Sweet baby inc isn’t even that great at preventing accidental racism. They made deadshot black, just so he can have some black-on-black gun violence with green lantern. Not to mention that it is a bit odd that the only black characters on that specific justice league and that specific suicide squad happen to have some kind of bitter rivalry.
@domm6812
@domm6812 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely. But these nutjobs ascribe maliciousness to anything they don't like, accidental or not, they want it to be a permanent stain on the person or business. This is not how rational, well adjusted adults are supposed to act ...these people are verifiably mentally ill, yet devs and publishers rush to put their games in these people's hands.
@ponraul1221
@ponraul1221 6 ай бұрын
“Accidental racism” is an oxymoron. Something has to be intentional to be racist. But of course basic words like “racism” and “women” are so distorted to dystopian levels nowadays that they’re losing meaning.
@J0eMega
@J0eMega 6 ай бұрын
@@ponraul1221 racism doesn’t have to be intentional. Ignorance and obliviousness are very common causes of racism (probably even moreso than maliciously intentional racism). The term has indeed been overused into obscurity, but unintentional racism is definitely a thing. For example, a racial slur has racial connotations, regardless of whether or not the person saying it is aware. That doesn’t have to mean that the person, themself, is racist. However, that doesn’t mean the action isn’t. Sometimes what we mean and intend doesn’t always equate to what we say and how people take it.
@ponraul1221
@ponraul1221 6 ай бұрын
@@J0eMega It does have to be intentional. If you see something as racist even though it wasn't intentional, you are being voluntarily offended. I understand there can be confusion, but if the person doing something clarifies they don't intend to be racist, it isn't racist. Racism is *prejudice* against a race, with the intent to punch them down, limit their liberty, coerce them, etc. If the definition of things depended on how other people perceive something, anything and everything can be rude or harrassment, people who are bad at math would determine that 5x5 equals 10, and every comedian would be thrown in a gulag for hate speech.
@J0eMega
@J0eMega 6 ай бұрын
@@ponraul1221 you can substitute the definition with whatever you make up, but that doesn’t change reality, my guy. I was pretty clear with how I defined it. Not once did I define racism as simply whatever offends people. It sounds like you just read whatever fit your confirmation bias, and then went off on some tangent lol.
@iroquoiskaram8639
@iroquoiskaram8639 6 ай бұрын
The problem is that modern games are way too centered around the characters instead of the journey and the world and the gameplay. This is why I mostly only play RPGs like Souls games and Fallout games. I don't care about the characters. If I wanted to care about the characters I would watch a movie or a TV series.
@arekusu.
@arekusu. 6 ай бұрын
Well if they don't focus on the characters then nobody will be able to appreciate their "heckin' awesome" self-inserts 😂
@yourstrulli9089
@yourstrulli9089 6 ай бұрын
Focusing on characters and character development isn’t all bad if the world building is good enough, unfortunately for these shitty companies, neither the world or the characters they build are good lol.
@lirionbelmont
@lirionbelmont 6 ай бұрын
Souls games are the truly inclusive games since they dont care how you look or where you come from, everything is indiscriminately out to kill you.
@iroquoiskaram8639
@iroquoiskaram8639 6 ай бұрын
@@lirionbelmont Just like real life lmao
@shallmow
@shallmow 6 ай бұрын
The real villain is the people who hire them.
@Bluepenguin28
@Bluepenguin28 6 ай бұрын
one of them "cough ubisoft cough" said they are trying to make us comfortable with not OWNING their games after we bought them... that should tell you the level of corruption on these companies.
@shlermit
@shlermit 6 ай бұрын
dawg ur pfp is literally a rainbow with a mouth. you agree with them more than you realize 😭😭
@incomprehensible3945
@incomprehensible3945 6 ай бұрын
@@shlermit ????
@shallmow
@shallmow 6 ай бұрын
@@shlermit i change mine to monochrome during pride month lol
@shlermit
@shlermit 6 ай бұрын
@@shallmow get well soon
@pancakes2726
@pancakes2726 6 ай бұрын
Forced inclusivity has no place in gaming.
@cultovcrows8142
@cultovcrows8142 6 ай бұрын
it has no place period.
@toastysock
@toastysock 6 ай бұрын
@@cultovcrows8142 Do you love segregation or something
@Multacio43
@Multacio43 6 ай бұрын
I’m just glad that in my childhood “gaming” was not mainstream thing. It was prerogative of small group in the world, so money was important, but there were still waaaaay more place for creativity. Like you know Blizzard for me are creators of WC2 and SC, sound of «EA Games… challenge everything» was a sight of something great, and Call of Duty was a great game about WW2. There were only dedicated people, with out groups like SweetBaby inc and others “consulting agencies”
@FleshCloud-ey5ro
@FleshCloud-ey5ro 6 ай бұрын
Gaming has been main stream since the 70s. You're not a special snowflake like you think you are.
@Multacio43
@Multacio43 6 ай бұрын
@@FleshCloud-ey5ro Dude, next time read with eyes and not part of body thet you used. I was speaking only about my experience. And smithing telling me that it’s true for most of people who watched this vid. So try to be cool and don’t be a dick.) And believe me gaming at home not arcade halls was not mainstream until PERSONAL computers was born. Including 1st home consoles. At least mid 80-90. Late-late 1990-2010 the golden middle between money, mainstream and games variety. Damn, we even got real console war, not that twitter trashtalk.
@FleshCloud-ey5ro
@FleshCloud-ey5ro 6 ай бұрын
@@Multacio43Space Invaders and Pac-man were so main stream they had pop songs hitting number 1 in the charts. It's literally undeniable that gaming was main stream when it influenced how money was created because Pac-man was gobbling up so many coins there was a shortage of them.
@Multacio43
@Multacio43 6 ай бұрын
@@FleshCloud-ey5ro My dude, let’s Google the definition of mainstream. Mainstream - the ideas, attitudes, or activities that are shared by most people and regarded as normal or conventional. Keyword - MOST people. Invaders and Pac-Man - true, real, huge cultural FENOMENS. And you described it like cultural phenomenon. But still little too far from mainstream. As an example: I was born in small town on the north of Russia, but I was lucky enough to have PC at both my father and mothers jobs. And when we moved to Europe there were less than 5 people in my class who got pc or consoles at home in the year 1998. And at one moment I realized that all of us got them. Now, for most of people, gaming device isn’t even pc/console, it’s fking smartphone. And because smartphones are much more widespread gaming( yes mobile gaming is not what we gonna call Gaming) is way more “mainstreamier” than before. But quantity as we all know dsnt mean quantity.
@Multacio43
@Multacio43 6 ай бұрын
@@FleshCloud-ey5ro yooooo, my dude you are internet-sigma-gigachad?))You know, using words like “snowflakes” and “slavs” do not make you more edgy or cool) I thought only “stupid Slavs speak first - think second”. So I see a soulmate in you) And Google how many coins were minted. Then use Google to find out how many PAC-man machines were made. After combining this 2 facts you will understand that “arcades eat all of our coins” - just another beautiful city-legend. But I’ll let you live in you fancy world where you may never listen to the other people arguments.
@Punkertoon
@Punkertoon 6 ай бұрын
On paper it sounds awful. Mainly because that is the tactic. Complain about Sweet Baby's quality and they respond, "Oh you have a problem with diversity?" Good example in media: In the show Parks and Rec, there is a religious group, "The Reasonablists." Chris Traeger asked why they called themselves that. Leslie responded that if anyone questioned them that the person would seem unreasonable. Good example in reality: Black Lives Matter. What happens if you have a problem with them? "Oh so you think black lives don't matter?"
@c0ya1
@c0ya1 6 ай бұрын
ironic when BLM was exposed by everyone, even the black community.
@centrevezgaming4862
@centrevezgaming4862 6 ай бұрын
In the next tomb raider game they going to turn Lara Croft Gay apparently.
@yourstrulli9089
@yourstrulli9089 6 ай бұрын
@@centrevezgaming4862might as well turn her into a pan black dude with golden locks of hair at this point.😂 diversity for diversity sake of course.
@rtablesaw
@rtablesaw 6 ай бұрын
Yikes
@112523
@112523 6 ай бұрын
​@@centrevezgaming4862 Who the fuck cares tho? In the original I don't even think they had sexuality or relationships in mind. In my opinion such a thing would also have no place in a tomb raider game. I wouldn't mind if she was gay and if she had a companion she's in a relationship with. Even a kiss I wouldn't mind. What I would mind however is if they put narrative focus on it and the plot is a commentary on why hating on gay people is bad. Like tlou2 tried to do. The relationship between Ellie and Dina was so overdone that it took away from the plot and it actually caused me to hate Dina. Cuz whenever she started talking you'd know the plot wouldn't move anywhere. she was only included for inclusions sake. Now the buff girl on the other hand, I can see that being a thing in the world they live in. And in my opinion they handled her well, but by the time she becomes playable, I was already burned out. Mainly cuz of Dina
@Ari0och
@Ari0och 6 ай бұрын
I'm LGBT myself, I've noticed this "forced diversity", It's not natural! the only recent game that I think did inclusion VERY well and didn't feel forced to me was Baldurs Gate 3. But every other corporate crap has this tone of being completely forced and unnatural! That's why I've been playing A LOT more indie stuff than AAA games. Combined with the pure greed of corporations and the declining quality of these games... it makes me want to stay away from them, it's ... sad to say the least :/
@NovemberHotel
@NovemberHotel 6 ай бұрын
Definitely sad state of the industry. Natural diversity has been a strength in the past and never was a problem for most gamers, until this “forced diversity” thanks to companies like this. My hope is we can return to naturally diverse games sometime soon
@roadrash2005
@roadrash2005 6 ай бұрын
I feel like they are parading your group around to capitalize on them and make profits
@vvitch-mist20
@vvitch-mist20 6 ай бұрын
Disco Elysium had some of the most natural feeling characters, and it was a diverse game.
@trashjash
@trashjash 6 ай бұрын
​@@roadrash2005It's not just a parade, these companies love championing activist-chosen minorities in their projects because they can use them as both a shield and cudgel. Criticize the game for awful story and bad gameplay and unnecessary focus on an annoying side feature? Get slammed with "You just hate 'insert minority group here' people!" Hate the studio for making a barely working product while squeezing in a maximally priced MTX store and tarnishing the beloved franchise the product is supposed to be a part of? "You're a privileged hoowite male and just hate how diverse our studio is!" It's a suuuper common tactic these days. Overinclude rainbow people or non-caucasians and make terrible design choices or business practices, then use the "diversity" as cover from criticism while striking out at the critics by labeling them as bigoted and more.
@aiodensghost8645
@aiodensghost8645 6 ай бұрын
​@roadrash2005 that's EXACTLY what they're doing... it's a form of disgusting at this point. OP only confirmed that some of us are already sick of it, too
@Obozo_Gaming
@Obozo_Gaming 6 ай бұрын
I'm all for being inclusive. But that doesn't mean I want someone like myself, someone who's obese has a stuttering problem in, almost, every game I play.
@rocket_2727
@rocket_2727 6 ай бұрын
We all have our biases but when you hear the term "narrative consultant" you know only one perspective will be put forward as the correct one.
@paulkfilms
@paulkfilms 6 ай бұрын
Black Rock and Vanguard have done nothing good for any industry, movies, gaming, tv shows, books, etc. The more and more I hear about these companies, it shows what evil is.
@Lady_Evelyn
@Lady_Evelyn 3 ай бұрын
Quiet anti semite
@paulkfilms
@paulkfilms 3 ай бұрын
@@Lady_Evelyn lol whaaaaaat? Feel free to insult me... but the insult has to make sense.
@Shawn-363
@Shawn-363 6 ай бұрын
If they made their way in AAA games, there’s no way that smaller games like indies won’t be affect at some point.
@yamnbam4346
@yamnbam4346 6 ай бұрын
Depends on whether or not the indie developer allows that to happen. They can’t just break down their door and go right into the kitchen lol
@___H3475
@___H3475 6 ай бұрын
Triple A being infected by this cancer is exactly the reason indie and smaller studio games are coming to light and becoming the most popular games, even in early access. Says a lot that people would rather play a game that’s half finished and buggy but fun, rather than a fully completed pile of virtue signaling garbage.
@VitoSpaghetti17
@VitoSpaghetti17 6 ай бұрын
​@@___H3475it doesn't help that the virtue signaling garbage is also usually half finished and buggy as well.
@DR-xy6jo
@DR-xy6jo 6 ай бұрын
@@yamnbam4346no but the marketplaces could make it so they cant advertise or make their product available if they dont check those diversity boxes
@AlbanianThrash
@AlbanianThrash 6 ай бұрын
nah i wager it's easier for indie devs to avoid this kinda stuff because they're not publicly traded so they're not beholden to shareholders, so they're don't have to resort to trying to get money from black rock and vanguard
@crazynoob159
@crazynoob159 6 ай бұрын
It sucks these days, and like most things, New Vegas does it well, plenty of gay characters in NV but they’re actually well written and not forced into the world, they’re just there
@BananekASMR
@BananekASMR 6 ай бұрын
When the game released they were even being accused of being transphobic and then the game ended up being really beloved by the trans community lol
@flintlockwood1919
@flintlockwood1919 6 ай бұрын
If I were to own a game development company, I would definitely hire Sweet Baby, ask them for narrative advice, and then do the exact opposite of what they said.
@OferRaid
@OferRaid 6 ай бұрын
A company employing people like this is a real litmus test for its business model. That is; whether they want to make a product to make money off of, or do they just want to make money.
@hanchiman
@hanchiman 6 ай бұрын
Kinda ironic that it was the failure of Suicide Squad that made gamers decide to check on S.B Inc. Basicall, when the Suicide Squad game killed off Batman in the game. The gamers got enraged and decided to honor Batman and do their own detective work by deducting why "Modern game is woke and trash". So they come up that it was all link to Sweet Baby inc. Batman/Kevin Conroy will be proud
@user-to3ub1ub6i
@user-to3ub1ub6i 6 ай бұрын
I promise you sweet baby inc has either government or blackrock money.
@gromblereal
@gromblereal 6 ай бұрын
I guarantee it’s probably black rock money
@ziljin
@ziljin 6 ай бұрын
CEOs pushing heavy monetization, no QA for buggy games, and crunching deadlines to release games that are unfinished. Greed ruins everything.
@vvitch-mist20
@vvitch-mist20 6 ай бұрын
If a game company wants diverse games, hire diverse staff. Hire staff that care about the characters they are representing in their games. It's literally not that hard, why are they making a mountain out of a mole hill?
@trashjash
@trashjash 6 ай бұрын
See, that's the thing. They are hiring "diverse" staff - in terms of skin color and what's between their legs and what they like between other people's legs. But these people are only getting in because of these narrowminded hiring practices that filter out anyone who doesn't think like the activists at Sweet Baby or other "diversity messaging" groups, just look at Starfield. Tons and tons of people who worked on it have openly championed just how "diverse" and "colorful" the teams that worked on that game were, and the game is absolute dogwater. You need to hire people with diversity of thought, people who can imagine and think well outside of thier regular comfort zones - and not the "went outside my comfort zone and decided to have my triple chocolate frappuccino with a pump of pumpkin-infused vanilla today, then got myself an extra donut for being so brave" kind of going outside comfort zones.
@BananekASMR
@BananekASMR 6 ай бұрын
I assume because they intentionally want it to be very noticeable
@vvitch-mist20
@vvitch-mist20 6 ай бұрын
@@BananekASMR That's so dumb lol. If you are doing it to be like "Look at us" then that defeats the purpose.
@BananekASMR
@BananekASMR 6 ай бұрын
@@vvitch-mist20 Not if you want to get seen by investors. They don't care about the average consumer, what they want is attention from people that can give them way more money
@vvitch-mist20
@vvitch-mist20 6 ай бұрын
@@BananekASMR That's why we are having the problems we are having.
@CovertBandit0
@CovertBandit0 6 ай бұрын
Man, your channel is such a gem. Please continue to bring these topics to light, far too many are distracted by MuH sHiNy GrAfiX to think or speak about the real problems in gaming. This coveted art form is being absolutely shredded by corporate greed. Respects, hopefully your platform keeps growing.
@primalfire7689
@primalfire7689 6 ай бұрын
“Far too many are distracted.” Well maybe that’s because some want there minds off of the troubles from shit like this but it would seems we can’t even have that now can we? But hey I’m just a normal guy. How should I know.
@CovertBandit0
@CovertBandit0 6 ай бұрын
@@primalfire7689 If you want games to get better, you have to say something, and put your money where your mouth is. If you're fine playing this slop, have at it. My opinion is that the quality of a game lies beyond shiny Unreal Engine graphics.
@primalfire7689
@primalfire7689 6 ай бұрын
@@CovertBandit0 what slop? If you mean something like suicide squad nah I’m good lol sticking with D2 if I’m gonna play something that’s flawed. (yes. I already know the shit that goes down on that game. No need for reminding.) I get what you’re saying tho. Quality over quantity that isn’t graphic related. Understandable
@johnprice6271
@johnprice6271 6 ай бұрын
This is why Indie games are more popular than tripple A.
@medakakurokami7101
@medakakurokami7101 6 ай бұрын
a wise man said "i shot a demon baby with a laser pistol in a space ship, i think we threw realism out the window a long time ago"... a fictional world shouldnt bring real world aspects in it, you wanna take a break from the real world not go back in it.
@Umbravitae19
@Umbravitae19 6 ай бұрын
The concept of using an external company to write dialogue and cinematic content for video games is absolutely insane to me. That’s like if Stephen King wanted to sell a book about vampires, but had four other people write it instead. It’s no wonder games feel soulless; there’s no creative drive behind any of them now (from AAA companies or those that utilize writers for hire rather than a team of true, visionary writers).
@JB2FROSTY
@JB2FROSTY 6 ай бұрын
I never understood why Alan Wake had another protagonist. It's like they couldn't bring the game back called ALAN WAKE without a black woman that isn't Alan Wake. That is just ridiculous
@simonrobineau2520
@simonrobineau2520 6 ай бұрын
BlackRock owns a good portion of Vanguard so reality they’re both the same entity.
@farishd7549
@farishd7549 6 ай бұрын
We shouldn't expect quality games for big publishers like ea, Ubisoft and Bethesda anymore.The only saving grace of modern gaming are some AAA devs and AA/indie devs. Japanese devs also make some good games here and there but they are usually remakes of the old games.Personally i will just keep playing the old games. New games are expensive.I dont want to spend 70 $ on a single game if i can get multiple old games at much cheaper price.
@IvanSal778
@IvanSal778 6 ай бұрын
The boogey men of video games are the players themselves. They cry about micro transactions and buy them regardless. They complain that video games are just being split and re released or just slight updates and released every year, but buy them anyway. The problem isn't that video games are "woke" its yall keep buying shit video games proping up these garbage practices. Support games like baulders gate 3 and hell divers 2, do not buy call of duty or your favorite sport video game for the 15th time.
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 5 ай бұрын
You can't just lump every gamer into one category, The ones who complain about microtransactions aren't playing that slop. They are the people who make the push to play indie games and older games instead. the people who are buying them are zoomers who grew up with MTX being the norm and who cry about "anti wokeness" and chuds. its why they defend garbage games that are obviously bad. because those games cater to their political beliefs and they see it as a propaganda outlet they must protect.
@IvanSal778
@IvanSal778 5 ай бұрын
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 This crap became popular before zoomers could even pay for micro transactions. It became popular a long time ago. It went from gambling on csgo skins, buying garbage dlc for games like skyrim and the horse armor, to buying skins in WOW and LOL. This crap has been around way before zoomers and fornite crap came around. Zoomers just added fule to the existing fire. People like to joke that it was kids with their parents credit card buying GameShark cards for gta 5 online but I'd be willing to bet it was always the millennials who didn't want to spend time playing the games and just used their money to buy credits/ fake money.
@IvanSal778
@IvanSal778 5 ай бұрын
@Zalkova alan wake 2 is a very well received game. Unlike every cod/sports game suicide squad, was badly received and sold badly. The game was reviewed worse than it actually is from what I've heard because of the hate for killing off the future batman games. However, it doesn't matter how much people don't like the new COD it seems to break previous sale records for them.
@juliangiraldo997
@juliangiraldo997 6 ай бұрын
You've missed the point of Helldivers 2
@nopenope2550
@nopenope2550 6 ай бұрын
It's not authoritarian to want games to be good.
@juliangiraldo997
@juliangiraldo997 6 ай бұрын
@@nopenope2550 I think you missed it too
@NovemberHotel
@NovemberHotel 6 ай бұрын
Imagine not realizing that Helldivers 2 characters shouting about democracy all day isn’t directly mocking the current liberals shouting about democracy while suppressing free speech and who can be on the ballot. Imagine not thinking the US isn’t a fascist regime under the current administration, an administration that is funding wars all around the globe and occupying countries. That’s the true irony with your comment. You’re truly clueless.
@juliangiraldo997
@juliangiraldo997 6 ай бұрын
@@NovemberHotel imagine thinking Republicans are the ones that block free speech, still you missed the point of Helldivers 2 one of the "wokest" games in recent years
@NovemberHotel
@NovemberHotel 6 ай бұрын
I didn’t say republicans are blocking free speech. The current administration is a democrat. That’s who is blocking free speech. Don’t know how you thought I meant republicans.
@wongwong1517
@wongwong1517 6 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think people are seriously missing the mark when they focus on stuff like this. Sure, there are some cringe characters in modern games. There are some poor design decisions across not just game development but the entire industry which are made for political reasons. But most of the problem with modern games is the scale of their game development and the management. These games are being made by crews of thousands of people, realistically, it's impossible for everyone to be on the same page. So directing these developers is already hard. Then, the directors suck, and they don't really like their job. On top of that, this is all being overseen by profoundly greedy executives. That's pretty much it. There isn't some secret woke boogeyman ruining everything. Time after time after time again we're seeing late releases, buggy releases, no releases at all, etc. This isn't cause of "Sweet Baby Inc." it's because the whole process of game development was ruined whenever bad actors realized it was lucrative. THAT is the reason why we're seeing the pushed diversity, those bad actors see pandering as a way to get money. But the pandering is superficial. There's much more wrong with the industry.
@ARStudios2000
@ARStudios2000 6 ай бұрын
A reasonable perspective
@incomprehensible3945
@incomprehensible3945 6 ай бұрын
this 100% the whole """woke"" shit is just a symptom of a bigger ill that's been plaguing the gaming industry for a long time now
@EGirlMadeOfPasta
@EGirlMadeOfPasta 6 ай бұрын
I’m gonna be honest here, I got distracted with the democracy loving gameplay in the background so idk what was said 🛄🫡
@SabNik
@SabNik 6 ай бұрын
One of the things I have noticed the most, as someone who mainly plays racing games is, that there has been so much forced happiness since the last years. Even franchises that started out with actual storylines that had ups and downs now just are like "Yay everything is soooo cool! Oh you crashed you million dollar car? Ah that's soooo funny you surely can just buy more. What?! I crashed my plane in the jungle?! Hahaha that was sooooo fun!!!" I personally cant stand this constant happiness being shoved in my face. There are times in life that aren't happy and I almost have to feel bad for sometimes having human emotions that arent "positive" - or as positive as they want...
@JumperSnipera
@JumperSnipera 6 ай бұрын
I thought about how I was going to phrase it and I don't think I have nailed a response, but I'll give it a try. I agree with the majority of the video. Clearly Sweet Baby Inc. is a culprit and I am on your side about the decline of modern gaming. I have watched a few of your videos and agreed with a lot in them. What I cannot agree with is that you are willing to go as far as throw highly renowned investment companies such as Vanguard under the bus for investing in a company that looks financially viable to them. It sounds more like companies such as Sweet Baby Inc. are abusing the ESG-ratings Vanguard and Blackrock approve of. Could you argue Vanguard and Blackrock should put more research into the companies they invest in? Maybe. But where do we draw the line? Does this mean they cannot invest in any sector at all? Plenty of larger companies across all sectors have some questionable backdoors at this point. Can't possibly invest in the textile and fashion industry because there might be children involved during the manufacturing process. But is it an investment company's responsibility to play detective to such a degree, even if in the gaming world we are only talking about the negative influence of a company on writing and overall game development? Claiming investment companies like Vanguard and Blackrock "have done nothing good for the gaming world" is a big stretch in my opinion. They are not responsible for the content that's created in the sector. They invest in companies that appear financially viable to them. The consumers are the ones making them viable. And this is where I come back to the part where I agree with you about modern gaming. It has gone downhill, severely in fact. But I would still consider the consumers responsible for voting with their wallets. Unfortunately not enough of us have gotten the memo yet that they are mindlessly purchasing underdeveloped games. But people are clearly catching on and one day the decline will reach a breaking point. Let me know what you think about my take on this.
@NovemberHotel
@NovemberHotel 6 ай бұрын
If Vanguard and Blackrock were just buying shares in a company for their own profit that would be understandable. But they specifically only invest in companies that meet their ESG requirements. It’s Vanguard and Blackrock making these ESG requirements, so companies are trying to fit into them in order to get funding. A lot of the blame is certainly on Vanguard and Blackrock, then of course the publishers are next guilty for trying to fit into their ESG requirements, and then they hire sweet baby inc. Top down, this is Blackrock and Vanguard.
@JumperSnipera
@JumperSnipera 6 ай бұрын
​@@NovemberHotel It's the choice of companies to want to fit in with these ratings. That choice is driven by greed to get funds from the big leagues. But indie successes have already shown you don't need such funds when you create good products, because your funds will come from the consumers instead. You are pointing your finger at investment companies while in reality companies have a choice not to follow the ESG-model. That's why I point my finger at them rather than the investment companies. And if they were truly so bad, then most if not all sectors should be in decline, which is not the case, not even close. Yet the gaming sector is having issues at the moment and you want to hold the companies with shares across so many sectors accountable for that specific problem? Are they enabling the option? Yes. Are they the ones forcing the choice to fit into that model? No. Are they the ones forcing you how to get to that ESG-rating if you want to fit in? Doesn't look like it to me. You can fit into that model without forcing your content to change. Companies are abusing the rating to fit in without putting out good content, which leads me to believe the primary culprits are the gaming companies, and whoever they hire, themselves. Should the ESG-rating be removed or changed to not to be the primary investment driver? Yes. Absolutely. But to me it is not the true reason why we're dealing with the decline of quality here. I strongly believe the mindset of these gaming companies is the main issue. I also think it's fine if you disagree with me. I see a different primary culprit than you do. It doesn't really matter I think, because in the end we're both stuck as a consumer who have to vote responsibly with our wallets. I am doing my part in that regard and I hope that soon enough people will see it our way to stop mindlessly buying this crappy underdeveloped mess they call AAA -games nowadays.
@NovemberHotel
@NovemberHotel 6 ай бұрын
@@JumperSnipera fair enough man! No problem if we disagree on a few things. I just don’t like the idea of Trillion dollar companies pushing ESG and find it to be a problem. But at the end of the day, we are on the same side here. We just want good entertainment, made with good intentions and passion. Voting with our wallets and sharing our concerns is all we have. Much appreciated the comments!
@ZontarDow
@ZontarDow 6 ай бұрын
I reported their site to the OQLF for not having a French language option, I'm doing my part!
@user-ze5yz6cq4o
@user-ze5yz6cq4o 6 ай бұрын
w sweet baby
@6046175
@6046175 6 ай бұрын
The bad thing about all this is that there is probably a lot of company that do the same as SBI that are totally unknown to anyone. Seeing one getting expose and failling wont change much in the big scheme
@wydua2049
@wydua2049 6 ай бұрын
That is not even that. You can make something both good and inclusive. It's just typical corporate shit. Look at witcher 3. You have some Lesbian (Ciri) and Bi (Triss) characters. You have women taking quite an important roles. But it does not stop it from being a good game. You can have dishonored DOTO where the main character is black. You can have cyberpunk that besides having glitched launch has all kinds of characters like Kerry, Claire, Meredith, Judy But you also can have games like mirror's edge catalyst or lord of the rings gollum. The true reason why games are bad nowadays is because they are copypaste the same thing, slap big map, slap million of interest points, game ready. Put it in million times.
@leoncca
@leoncca 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's all about how to write stuff organically. A story must be good, not "be good, then modify artificially with some ideology and make it bad". Cyberpunk 2077 does it well. PS: Ciri is also bi, interestingly enough. I'm almost done with the books and she's had some (very, very sad) relationships with both sexes so far. The girl just can't catch a break :(
@Valskyr
@Valskyr 6 ай бұрын
wrong. diversity is not a strength, it ruins games and makes them gross looking. games are meant to be an escapism from the modern world. why would i want to see the issues that plague the modern world in my video game as well?
@o0-0o693
@o0-0o693 6 ай бұрын
Rocksteady died a long time ago idc if they get shut down. At the end of the day the ppl who made the games i loved already left. Why should i care about the idiots who wanted to cash in for 9 years making a terrible game.
@TimAEvans92
@TimAEvans92 6 ай бұрын
It's crazy how close you are to the point, yet so so so very far away
@hierax49
@hierax49 6 ай бұрын
The creator of the Steam group is Brazilian. Making me proud of my country.
@gigadolphin
@gigadolphin 6 ай бұрын
Its funny how people call woke people kid groomers and they name them selves sweet baby inc.
@silvergamer7250
@silvergamer7250 6 ай бұрын
It’s just a name bruv
@ogGILMOURRR
@ogGILMOURRR 6 ай бұрын
My guy almost at 100k subs! You love seeing good people with legit talent doing well 🔥
@NovemberHotel
@NovemberHotel 6 ай бұрын
Thank you bro, I appreciate that 🤙🏼
@ogGILMOURRR
@ogGILMOURRR 6 ай бұрын
@@NovemberHotel 🤙
@fineprodigy6324
@fineprodigy6324 6 ай бұрын
wheres johnny silverhand when we need him
@mightquinnable
@mightquinnable 6 ай бұрын
right, been saying this for a while
@EXMachina.
@EXMachina. 6 ай бұрын
So I understand why GOW Ragnarok they implemented "diverse" cast of characters even though the game is based of Norse Mythology in Scandinavia, and they probably didn't realize the main character himself is originally tanned since he's from Mediterranean origin.
@diegobrando4061
@diegobrando4061 6 ай бұрын
Now i know why they invested so much on freaking Ironwood, they should have cut half of it and give it to the Ragnarok part cause it was so short
@comradekam
@comradekam 6 ай бұрын
Ain't no way bro complaining about "wokeness" while playing Helldivers 2
@wolfshade5020
@wolfshade5020 6 ай бұрын
If the investors are the issue what can we do about it? How can we change the landscape of gaming aside from not investing AAA games infected by their touch? I really feel like politicians need to get involved much like they did with the loot box issue. The fact that studios are being shut down, layoffs are more frequent while higher ups are celebrating profits I really feel like this needs to be addressed
@trashjash
@trashjash 6 ай бұрын
Your reaction is understandable, but this is a more complex issue than marketing gambling to kids. This lies in sociopolitical messaging, and by encouraging politicians to step in you'd be inviting them to tamper with gaming on a whoooole deeper level than lootbox mechanics. You could try to limit investing capabilities from outside sources, but that could end up with something like the two-party political system in America where only one or two publishers have a hold over 90% of the games being published due to their accumulated wealth prior to the restrictions. The best bet is to cut out all of these diseased developers from your life by not buying their products, and encouraging your friends to do the same. Eventually these ESG-funded studios will see such a negative return on their projects that they will have to close, and then the ESG overlords will try to move on to other studios, which will need to be quarantined by us. Just make it known to all developers that by taking the shiny, expensive bait that is external funding from these groups in exchange for altering their games to include certain messages will be a death nail for them. Then nobody will want the ESG money.
@wolfshade5020
@wolfshade5020 6 ай бұрын
@@trashjash that’s a good idea for sure. It sucks because there are franchises I love that I want to see in better hands, more specifically in the hands of actual gamers who are developers and not wolves in sheep’s clothing. And for the most part I have been distancing myself from certain AAA series and have been down memory lane playing older games or playing AA games
@xtelmosx
@xtelmosx 6 ай бұрын
Whether you like it or not, there are gamers who are black, gay, female, etc. They deserve to have characters who represent them in games. If you have a problem with that (which based off of this video you do), then maybe you need to dig a little deeper internally. There is no such thing as 'forced' diversity. It's just diversity you do not want to recognize. If you are unphased by shit like giants and vampires and dragons in fiction but a black person existing completely pulls you out of the game, then that sounds like a *you* problem.
@seneschalorcberg1338
@seneschalorcberg1338 6 ай бұрын
Allat to prove that you missed him mentioning the difference between natural diversity and forced diversity. LMAO
@goddamnarshia
@goddamnarshia 6 ай бұрын
I think generally speaking , a game isn't woke when it has a gay, black or female character or protagonist in it, but when you get the feeling the game assumes the person playing the game hates all of the aforementioned and is trying to actively be aggressive towards them because of it in a way that resembles propaganda content
@FelpudoChannel
@FelpudoChannel 6 ай бұрын
Dude, c'mon, how can you look at a Suicide Squad that has a terrible problem with microtransactions and probably had a terrible development cycle cause of the push to make a liveservice game and think that the MAIN PROBLEM is because women is there doing stuff? HOW? I mean, Skull and Bones just came out, are you gonna say that the main issue is that you can be a woman pirate? Like, be for real now go touch some grass, FOR REAL
@NovemberHotel
@NovemberHotel 6 ай бұрын
2:18 listen to what I say here slowly if you have to
@krayozmines
@krayozmines 5 ай бұрын
did u even watch the video?
@FelpudoChannel
@FelpudoChannel 5 ай бұрын
@@krayozmines Yeah, and I had ignored the @novemberHotel time stamp cause that's a bullshit argument. Saying that you have a problem with "forced inclusivity" is in the same vein as saying you can't be homoph0bic cause your friend is gay. It doesn't make sense. Actually, it makes you worst. Pointing out to games like GTA or old Saint's Row as non forced inclusivity is crazy for me considering that any number of minorities have criticized these games for decades for their portrayal of black, women, LGBTQIA+ and latin-american characters for being quite stereotyped representations, so, basically you're saying that, for you, the only good inclusivity is the stereotypical one. That's your core argument here... and also, love the rebuttle guys, great work all around! Great job.
@scottd5357
@scottd5357 6 ай бұрын
People want fun gameplay loops. Many modern games are gamified movies or monetized out the ass. I would say any “woke” influences by bad faith actors is just a minor issue.
@KydraExhale
@KydraExhale 5 ай бұрын
black female character = woke
@Mystxc7
@Mystxc7 6 ай бұрын
I’m so glad you addressed the corporate control over the companies that are producing these poorly made games. It’s a very important piece of information that helps explain why things are the way they are. Thank you for sharing. 👏🏻
@ziadbruh
@ziadbruh 6 ай бұрын
you keep throwing out the term “forced diversity” while treating it as some kind of truism that everybody already agrees with you on and doesn’t require further explanation or analysis. the reason you refuse to try to untangle what makes diversity “forced” is because it would require you to actually think about the media you’re consuming.
@riczz4641
@riczz4641 6 ай бұрын
yeah. Whenever I ask that they don't know what to answer. Inclusivity is not forced when they are all white straight guys to these people. That's the short answer.
@dparr13
@dparr13 6 ай бұрын
My astonishment at all this has led me to form a company: Sweet Jesus LLC
@CryoByte115
@CryoByte115 6 ай бұрын
can I get a praise God brother?
@AhmadWahelsa
@AhmadWahelsa 6 ай бұрын
I may have different beliefs, but i still support you, these deranged alphabet people that failed basic biology class really is infecting the industry as a whole.
@MidFlyer
@MidFlyer 6 ай бұрын
Damn bro imagine having helldivers 2 gameplay in the background while making this video how can you miss the mark by that much?
@NovemberHotel
@NovemberHotel 6 ай бұрын
Imagine not realizing that Helldivers 2 characters shouting about democracy all day isn’t directly mocking the current liberals shouting about democracy while suppressing free speech and who can be on the ballot. Imagine not thinking the US isn’t a fascist regime under the current administration, an administration that is funding wars all around the globe and occupying countries. That’s the true irony with your comment. You’re truly clueless.
@MidFlyer
@MidFlyer 6 ай бұрын
​@@NovemberHotel As opposed to republicans who are not fascist and have never done election fraud or funded war and occupied countries? And why do you think I'm doing defence for democrats with my original comment lmao, I'm saying it's ironic that you're showing a game with an actual woke-agenda which is anti-America btw regardless if its under a democrat or republican administration. But I guess "wokeness" is more obvious when a black protagonist is interacting with other black characters. Imagine thinking that "woke-ness" is what are making games bad and not corporate greed, mergers and acquisitions, stock-buybacks and so on. Alan wake was considered a good game but also woke and unplayable because sweetbaby inc worked on it and the main protagonist is black, like get serious lmao.
@NovemberHotel
@NovemberHotel 6 ай бұрын
@@MidFlyermocking the war machine and military industrial complex isn’t a woke talking point. Being anti-war should be the stance of most rational individuals. We need to stop funding wars and stop instigating them.
@MidFlyer
@MidFlyer 6 ай бұрын
@@NovemberHotel Did you delete my comment lol? Ok so mocking the literal American exceptionalism identity isn't woke, but not having every protagonist be Duke Nukem variant number 53 is? I just think it's funny that you anti-woke gamers don't say anything about objectively good games that are according to your metrics "woke" like Baldur's gate 3. But then when a game is bad and doesn't have a white template protagonist you scream it's bad because its woke, not because the game in of itself is just bad.
@NovemberHotel
@NovemberHotel 6 ай бұрын
@@MidFlyer didn’t delete your comment, this is the 5th time a comment has been removed in this video comment section with other people I’m replying to. Even to ones that agree with me their comments are being deleted. I have no idea how or why that is. We’re having a conversation here and deleting comments is asinine. So don’t know what’s going on there. And secondly, while the game is absolutely a political satire, it isn’t overt, it isn’t saying explicitly “American exceptionalism is bad” and it’s allowing players to actually play as that stereotype and we’ve all seen how many people have been loving the role playing. People in game chat screaming “for democracy!!” It’s all pretty harmless and already the current woke crowd is screaming at arrowhead games for being anti-lgbtq, and that the devs are right wing “gatekeepers” because they want to keep the game challenging. The woke-types already hate this game and it’s devs even if it has political undertones. It’s like Bioshock. Both the first game and infinite are a critique of capitalism, American exceptionalism, and objectivist morality, but it still does it in a way that allows the player to come to their own conclusions
@TheMrgogo360
@TheMrgogo360 6 ай бұрын
Look at the Sweet Baby logo, doesn't it remind you of something? Look into it.
@KF486
@KF486 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate the refocusing you've done to differentiate between proper diversity and hollow corporate diversity-for-profit. Diversity should be something that you naturally include because it makes your game better, not to court investors. Honestly, it seems like these deals are equivalent to vulture funds, where they know the game is going to be bad and the hope is that the investment and injected artificial diversity will bring in more money to offset their flop.
@c0ya1
@c0ya1 6 ай бұрын
basically this - I like GENUINE diversity, not diversity for corporate shilling and profit. the fact that none of these companies truly care for diversity, especially with their disgusting track-records against their own employee. AAA Companies: we support diversity, inclusivity, alongside women and minority rights! Reality: most of these companies are staffed with frat boys who can't keep it in their pants or can't even keep their hands to themselves (ABK), closet-pedos who should've been on a watchlist instead of a high end gaming studio, creeps who'd steal baby milk from women's bathrooms (ABK), and an entire list of former execs who got arrested for sexual harassment (Ubisoft). same ones who want to be high and mighty, commit outright crimes behind the scenes!
@ryficonnection
@ryficonnection 6 ай бұрын
Take a shot every time NH says “Sweet Baby Inc.” A better time than playing AAA games
@piper67890able
@piper67890able 6 ай бұрын
wait i'm confused... Spiderman 2 was good, Allan wake 2 also good. These sweet baby people work with valve... and they are not public. So like what even is the point? You don't like certain games cool that's fine but to like create a conspircy out of nowhere seems weird. Starfield sucks ass because its a bad game. BG3 is more woke than all the games you listed so like do you hate it too or?
@NovemberHotel
@NovemberHotel 6 ай бұрын
Like I said in the video, Female characters, POC Characters, and LGBTQ characters don't make a game woke, it's when it becomes the focus and constantly repeated as that characters only defining trait. Baldur's Gate 3 characters point out their sexuality once or twice and the romance options play into that. It doesn't bother me because it fits naturally into the theme and characters in the game. It isn't implemented in a pandering and talking down sort of way like most modern games.
@piper67890able
@piper67890able 6 ай бұрын
@@NovemberHotel I mean gale was hitting on me with zero hints at all so we must've had different expereinces. same with halsin. It was so bad that it was all over the reddit page so must have been patched out before you played it lol. it'was like super well known issue. My problem with this video is not that you don't like woke games or whatever. That's fine. It's just that sweetbaby doesn't really do anything lol. Like most of the games they are apart of, are fine. the gameplay is fine, the story is fine. Wait so, the deaf girl in spider man 2 was forced for you? Was MJ forced in SM1? I just don't get it. Both are love interests for the main characters so to only have MJ sections would be weird when Miles is the second main character. Starfield is bad not because sweet baby touched it... it just bad. The game design is bad, the quests are fine if you like bethesda so idk why you are acting like they somehow are the bane of this game. They only good thing about starfield was making you ship everything else sucked ass. Ragnarok was fine i guess. I don't even know what you consider a problem in that game. Gameplay same as the first, story fine if you like movies in your games. When I played it I has zero issues. Like what did sweet baby do to ruin it? add that black kid? And kill the justice league was trash from jump. The game has not changed since the first time we saw gameplay. It was always going to be trash. The first time I saw the gameplay for it, I KNEW it was going to be bad. So i never played it. Seems like sweetbaby has nothing to do with gameplay so i guess your problem stems from story? And the barks? Forsaken was always going to be trash. So no comment there. i've personally also played shadow gambit and that shit was fun as fuck lol. I just also don't think sweet baby inc are like the boogyman. Blackrock and Vanguard are whatever, they quite literally fund everything so you can't really do much about them.
@KaledTV
@KaledTV 6 ай бұрын
wanna be activists in gaming are ridiculous
@joelama23
@joelama23 6 ай бұрын
My guy you are literally playing Helldivers 2
@thenewguyinred
@thenewguyinred 5 ай бұрын
The wokest game in the current year.
@Mugiwara2k
@Mugiwara2k 6 ай бұрын
The irony of you using the term ‘Boogeyman’ is perfect, since most of what was said about BGI is manufactured half-truths designed to make BGI (and diversity in general) something to be afraid of.. which is ridiculous. BGI is just a narrative design company; they assists with story and making sure some parts authentic and respectful.. It’s not some nefarious conspiracy to ‘wokify’ everything. They also aren’t solely focused on making everything diverse, which is exactly the way you’re portraying things… they do way more than just focusing on diversity. Speaking of which, who gets to decide what is ‘natural’ vs ‘forced’? Most of the ideas of having more diversity come from straight from the actual developers themselves, which by your own rhetoric, should be considered ‘natural diversity’. The same people also whining about BGI see ANY AND EVERYTHING involving minorities groups as being ‘forced diversity’.. Just go look at some of the screenshots of that Steam Groups discord for proof of that. This is long winded, but I can’t help but point out how most of this is just bad faith rubbish. It’s even more disappointing seeing it come from you, since I genuinely used to enjoy your old videos. A shame seeing you fall into this pit of anti-Wokeness nonsense (though maybe you’ve always been that way?)
@pyiemadofarmule
@pyiemadofarmule 6 ай бұрын
Black character = woke if metroid came out today yall would call it woke garbage
@thenewguyinred
@thenewguyinred 5 ай бұрын
More than that, they'll be posting videos every 5 minutes on how they hate Samus Aran.
@pyiemadofarmule
@pyiemadofarmule 5 ай бұрын
@@thenewguyinred cue the quarter(pounder)ing making 68 vids on why samus is woke and not sexy
@JustAFishBeingAFish
@JustAFishBeingAFish 5 ай бұрын
companies paying money to other companies to pander to people who dont care 🤦‍♂
@suqma-dik8506
@suqma-dik8506 6 ай бұрын
And just to let yall know, blackrock and vanguard dont just do this to games, they have control over damn near every part of your life. America has fallen.
@sofieberger8851
@sofieberger8851 6 ай бұрын
And the crazy part: nobody knows this. We are ruled by a monopoly which hides behind shares and this simple layer is enough so that normal people can't see who theire masters are. It's crazy how easy we can be fooled.
@JohnDoe-uf3lj
@JohnDoe-uf3lj 6 ай бұрын
That’s quite a thing to hear on a video essay on games 😂😂😂
@sofieberger8851
@sofieberger8851 6 ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-uf3ljFear the gamers. Nobody mentions BlackRck when they destroyed Netflix and Disney. But take our games and the nerds will retaliate. Idiots watch movies. Geniuses play games. They know the internet and know how to identify BlackRck and Vangrd who are realy behind all this nonsense. Don't wake the gamers.
@dynastyjumpzz
@dynastyjumpzz 6 ай бұрын
That just makes me sad
@user-vg8ox3he1i
@user-vg8ox3he1i 6 ай бұрын
Wow. I'm so surprised that you covered this one. Nice!
@NovemberHotel
@NovemberHotel 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@ryantichy1287
@ryantichy1287 6 ай бұрын
Funded by Blackrock
@CheeseWorks-vj4yi
@CheeseWorks-vj4yi 6 ай бұрын
Great video NH!
@NovemberHotel
@NovemberHotel 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@SplittingOfPrides
@SplittingOfPrides 6 ай бұрын
Don't buy AAA games, and their scam will end. In the end, you lose nothing. We just want good games, and woke ”games” are not good.
@VarietyAndy
@VarietyAndy 6 ай бұрын
shows helldivers while touting anti-woke talking points then rants about blackrock yep. lead paint brain. god forbid you realize its just dilution of the product due to capitalism to reach the widest audience possible.
@NovemberHotel
@NovemberHotel 6 ай бұрын
Yes, Helldivers 2 is political satire. Still a good game that’s entire point is to PARTAKE in the fun aspect of the political satire. People screaming “for democracy” is an obvious jab but also a bunch of fun in a gameplay context and arrowhead studios knows that, hence the reason the game is so successful.
@Valskyr
@Valskyr 6 ай бұрын
but but but i thought diversity was our strength?!?????? why would they bother shilling for it this hard if its a strength!!!!
@inhumANthropoid
@inhumANthropoid 6 ай бұрын
Gamergate is not coming back sir. How could you have a video where you discovered Blackrock and Vanguard are behind it and go "it's DEI that's ruining gaming" Helldivers 2 is woke as hell btw
@losbloontas
@losbloontas 6 ай бұрын
Was wondering how the atreus/angerboda sections in GoW:R was so atrociously bad and boring, it was this crappy company. Hopefully going forward, they just get rid of atreus, kid is insufferable
@ZZWWYZ
@ZZWWYZ 6 ай бұрын
zzZ another slop for the channers Zzz
@simondelavega1938
@simondelavega1938 6 ай бұрын
Man who remembers the witcher 3 trailer in 2015. "You'll be tackling real dilemas, class devide, morality and ee racism" a good times. Also I just realised you had the Witcher 3 music on 1:55.
@saschaberger3212
@saschaberger3212 6 ай бұрын
"NooooOoOo this is right wing conspiracy! Stahp!" Some random youtubers I've seen. Can't make this up.. how lost can you be. Protecting trillion dollar companies who destroy your hobby
@tropic.media.studio
@tropic.media.studio 6 ай бұрын
When will these publishers notice that the additional ESG funding doesn’t offset the decline in sales 🤦
@Goosecanoe0040
@Goosecanoe0040 6 ай бұрын
So what is the point of Sweet Baby Inc, is it to destroy great game studio's to create a monopoly on content generation?
@bigboibif7798
@bigboibif7798 6 ай бұрын
i like most of your vids but you really missed the point in this one imo
@ejr56
@ejr56 6 ай бұрын
I was waiting for more concrete examples of how this company’s interference is ruining any particular game, and vague allusions to diverse elements of modern games don’t cut it for me. Games like Forspoken sucked regardless of “injected wokism” and big budget games that have sucked for various reasons have always existed. Valve was on that list of companies that utilises Sweet Baby Inc.’s services, as well as others I’m sure we all enjoyed titles from in past or present. There are a whole lot of reasons gaming sucks more than it used to - corporate live services, rushed development, unmitigated hype and marketing etc. - but the inclusion of a diverse cast of any sort, or a political message in a Spider-man game are not representative of the “real boogeyman” of gaming. Get your priorities in order.
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