The Real Reason Hardcore Is Popular Again...

[@k-chill8428]

The hardcore scene always seemed like a giant high school to me, which is why I stuck with metal, which is more like a giant kindergarten.

[@peysecail]

That's actually a surprisingly accurate analogy 😂

[@maxr.k.pravus9518]

Holy shit lmaooo so trueee

[@darkbarrage99]

same tbh, i was more about the local metal scene in my area

[@Juck_The_Fews]

Try pogo punk, it's like a giant kintergarden short bus

[@maxr.k.pravus9518]

@@Juck_The_Fews juck the fews, wonder what that means

[@hedgehogsnhotdogs8627]

Everyday fugazi inches closer to becoming a tiktok band I fear that day an incredible amount

[@waxtrax_]

Everytime I see I'm So Tired getting shared around I get a spine chill

[@pl9nningforburial]

annoying kids who think their life is hard listen to Im So Tired

[@Volzotran]

Shhhh they can hear you

[@nncntblzzrd2427]

Oh my god you damn scared me 😂😂😂

[@mrsneedy1034]

I give it at most 3 months

[@LiftedBlader]

It's blowing up because community as an idea is otherwise virtually dead. No one has anywhere to go to be surrounded by people with similar niche interests and desire for something as visceral and accessible as hardcore. People aren't as bogged down by traditional notions of what is or isn't acceptable, so interest in hardcore and heavy music as a whole grows. But the poverty cultists will insist if your band succeeds you're doing something wrong.

I can only speak for metal, but at least in our scene, nobody really even cares anymore if you "look the part." I see people at concerts who look like they just got out of the office (and they probably just did lol). Nobody really cares anymore, about that part of gatekeeping. Not sure if it's the same in hardcore, but when looking at videos, I see a wide variety of styles (clothing & hair).

[@itmeurdad]

Good on you for being tolerant, but there are 3000 genres of "metal." To imply there isn't gatekeeping in metal is just bizarre.

[@ChineseSpyBal00n]

Word salad. Go talk to people and touch grass.

[@Youknowwho6]

This is genuinely sad. Touch grass, go out side, it shouldn't bother you wether or not other people are enjoying things you enjoy. Talk to a therapist or some shit

[@Youtube.Commen-tater]

​@@Youknowwho6You wouldn't care about a stranger lamenting a lack of community if you actually believed what you wrote, the fact you replied at all proves his point

[@conestuffer]

I'll keep gatekeeping my favorite band that disbanded before I was even out of diapers thank you very much.

[@mildred78]

orchid

[@conestuffer]

@@mildred78 cs2

[@Aidenguitarrr]

rites of spring

[@Farkmetal]

Disembodied

[@conestuffer]

@@mildred78cs2

[@skinc4rver]

i saw someone else comment this, so credit to beating me, but it’s totally because hardcore is intrinsically a super community based subculture. the amount of younger people i see at shows post-covid (i got involved in my local scene in 2018, when i was finally old enough to have older friends that drove) is insane. kids don’t have real third spaces or community-based hangouts or events anymore. if you like alternative music, hardcore is easily the most accessible subculture in heavy(er) music to get involved in, at least in my experience.

[@heter0flexual623]

im generally reserved and never leave the house unless im hanging out with friends or getting food but hardcore is the only thing that truly feels like a "3rd space" for me even if i dont talk to anyone at the shows and go alone (which i end up doing anyway). i get to go out every few weekends, experience an amazing environment and jam out to some heavy music and it's a blessing. no other music scene really gets it the way hxc does in my city at least, we've got speed in my city and seeing them get as popular as they are makes me INSANELY proud. hxc getting hate is only really a thing if you dont attend shows/listen to the music or if you live in an area where the hxc scene is dead

[@gordonhuskin7337]

yeah, unless you don't hold leftist beliefs. Then you are labeled a nazi

[@samstephens5564]

You’re totally right, after covid, I found it really difficult to find a community outside of school/work until i found out about my local hardcore scene.

[@bryan6544]

All ages has always been the mentality. Offering of a third space is a great way of putting it.

[@gordonhuskin7337]

@@skinc4rver hardcore is the most clique-y judgemental group of insufferable try hards imaginable

[@ChaunceyCC]

Oh, Man. Saw myself in the Hatebreed skatepark footage in this vid. My 2nd accidental appearance on the channel. Was also in the background of a clip of ASAP Rocky you've shown on here. Lol Hell yeah.

[@SanguineShoeshinee]

TWU

[@itsthatsebguy93]

U r famous

[@beepboop7041]

Legend❤

[@JeremyAndersonBoise]

Chad moves

[@AliceBowie]

Was it at the Bike Exchange in Bristol? I used to go to shows there back in the day. Spent the most time at Tune Inn in New Haven, but also El'N Gee, plus the Rat and the Middle East in Boston. Fun times, so long ago

[@TjByers369]

Bad Brains: "y r u geh?"

[@nncntblzzrd2427]

Bra, to old school 😂😂😂😂😂

[@TjByers369]

@nncntblzzrd2427 Sorry for the boomer meme. Couldn't resist.

[@A.D.I.D.A.S-916]

That made me laugh dude

[@LoneCanadianPoet]

"DON'T BLOW NO...FUDGE BUNS!"

[@psychobillynumbnuts1]

Wow. I like bad brains now

[@luandrew5758]

Hardcore are a great mindset for me, its more than just fast music, the message, attitude, loyalty to yourself. its life

[@ghost_to_a_ghost]

Facts! My very-christian mom likes a lot of the hardcore lyrics I show her. most of it, the good stuff especially, is all about self-improvement and being a better person

[@El_SpRunG1on]

Bingo!

[@humanblisterr]

🤓

[@AtZero138]

Absolutely... The modern H-C is awesome.. Trapped Under Ice,, Guns Up,, Have Heart,, Verse,, Comeback Kid,, Incendiary,, Planet on a Chain,, Cheers from Orange County California 🇺🇸 Never stop searching for new music

[@StergiosSotiriou]

@@AtZero138 Orange county and you didnt mention STYG? One of the best positive hc bands

[@fallenangelcrimson]

i miss title fight

[@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245]

if you say title fight like the singer: TOIIITAL FOOOIGHT

[@bobandblackeyfanclubsucks]

They were just ok. I don't understand why people glaze them so much

[@PoliticalDisaster]

Same. Symmetry is a personal favorite

[@fallenangelcrimson]

symmetry?! are you death the kid? :3

[@jiesus2596]

sigh..... 😢

[@herbiecompletamentecargado]

15 yr old: I can’t wait to show this music to my friends 25 yr old: I can’t wait to play these songs about my friends. 35 yr old: These songs are about people I used to call friends. Only the scene is my friend. 45 yr old: Those aren’t my friends either. Hardcore is dead.

[@Owjdnskoakansbskk]

I’m 43 years old from NY and grew up going to hardcore shows. It’s weird watching you explain this because you weren’t there. I think you’re a bit off on some of the info but overall it’s a great video and you’ve done a great job with what you’ve got.

[@Bizarreparade]

You werent where? There? Wheres there?

[@UmamiPapi]

@@Bizarreparade Born.

[@Survivalist-of-war]

Um this person wasnt alive when these things were happening. ​@Bizarreparade

[@nicholasrella6904]

I'm also 43 years old from NY. I grew up going to the same shows. I don't think this is a great video at all. It's a good try and the intentions are there. Still, it's like a Wikipedia entry. Some of the stuff is true, but a lot of it is bs. I don't see hardcore making a big comeback in NY at all. I don't see many young people getting into it. The only people I see are the same old dudes that never stopped since the 80's. I will say that it did really die down for awhile and it has come back slightly since then. It's still nowhere near as big a scene as it was in the 90's. I see a lot of other styles of metal becoming more popular. I wanted to go to the benefit for Lou this past Sat but I just had shoulder surgery the day before so shows are out of the question for now. The crowd at that show would've been a good indicator. If I had to guess I would say it was probably mostly guys 50 and up that never stopped being involved in the scene.

[@Bizarreparade]

@@UmamiPapi No I got it I was just trying to find a creative and un abrasive way to highlight and possibly shine a light on what I consider a ego driven aspect of culture we all are guilty of and could do without

[@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125]

The amount of hardcore live shows I’ve seen come up on KZbin in the last couple of years compared to the mid - to late 2010s is, honestly, a sight to behold. I do have to admit that there had been a couple of bands that are interchangeable to one another, though. The scene has become a little over-saturated.

[@RTheWalkerOfGreenB]

I'd say so too. I started my band back in 2014 (we were thrash/hardcore) and it hasn't been until the 2020's that anyone cared about us. Now we're taking a hiatus and starting a sludge band

[@AtZero138]

INCENDIARY,, they are still a stand out..

[@zack-lk8if]

the scene is not over saturated, go support small bands

[@iwillstareintoyoursoul9762]

​@@zack-lk8if, it is though. I'm not gonna go ahead and support bands that play the same thing over and over again. Variety and distinction should ALWAYS be key for a scene.

[@autismofinn3144]

@@AtZero138 please do you know of some other bands I love Incendiary but getting real bored of hardcore either being too progressive or not enough

[@jkteddy77]

your video editing makes me feel ike I'd taken a drug I wish I hadn't and am forced to ride out

[@darkbarrage99]

another factor you didn't mention, the younger people getting into this music are the children of gen x. a lot of these people grew up on dead kennedys, minor threat etc because of their parents.

[@nicholasrella6904]

This is true. That's why I see all these young kids getting into 90's alternative and grunge.

[@Bulley]

Yes. I'm 23 and my mom took her high school photos in a Misfits tee

[@nicholasrella6904]

@ Sounds like you have a cool mom.

[@darkbarrage99]

@@nicholasrella6904 my mom was a boomer and a psycho drug addict lol but she was also a singer songwriter and my dad is a boomer blues guitarist that dug experimental stuff. i actually ended up learning guitar and getting into stuff like pink floyd, frank zappa and opeth because of them.

[@darkbarrage99]

@@nicholasrella6904 yeaaaah that too, gotta remember these kickass 90's revival acts like narrow head also apply

[@bobicusbobly]

i think its blowing up because its been getting increasingly more accessible and pop - like, pretty much doing a 180 on its original message

[@ghost_to_a_ghost]

you're not wrong. but I kinda like it

[@ghost_to_a_ghost]

PS - End It is a pretty good newer hardcore band. very old school style hardcore with actual hardcore punk elements.

[@bobicusbobly]

@@ghost_to_a_ghost personally it bores me to death but I kind of see the appeal ig

[@bobicusbobly]

@@ghost_to_a_ghost also yea theyre pretty good

[@ghost_to_a_ghost]

​@@bobicusboblythat's fair enough. hardcore is for everyone but it's also very niche. I will say I have been to Hatebreed shows where gang members and police officers(obviously off the clock) are going nuts right next to one another.

[@jpthedrummer4258]

Harms way deserves a shout out. Some of the best breakdowns around.

[@SoilentGr33n]

Also probably the best hate5six thumbnail ever.

[@jpthedrummer4258]

@ so true

[@SoilentGr33n]

@@jpthedrummer4258 I literally just searched "Hardcore music live" for a good laugh and it's the second fkin video in the results. A massive scowling shirtless tattooed dude in the most brutal looking T-pose ever. When KZbin puts that shit BEFORE shorts and "people also watch" spam they know it's getting the clicks. It had two and a half million views and I had never heard of these guys. This thumbnail did as much for hardcore music as the Virgin Megastore Video did for Dillinger Escape Plan back in the day.

[@infinite_ammo]

I'm sure someone discovered hardcore through the running man meme

[@zergtoss1]

Harm’s Whey 😂

[@Lultschful]

80% of the antagonistic arguments being based on style and physical looks. Getting high school flashbacks.

[@Cr1ng37r45h]

"bald white dudes in band shirts + cargo shorts" that's like every heavy music scene. bro just wanted to spitshine Cucked Noose and Turdstile while providing his closeted racist take of bands "looking good" with some broad in a short skirt on vocals and a Cheech Marin impersonator on guitar.

[@youtuberobbedmeofmyname]

​@@Cr1ng37r45h Took the words right out of mouth bro.

[@mashpotatosauce3566]

@@Cr1ng37r45h lol right, this guy usually has pretty bad takes anyway.

[@theaven353]

the quality of the narration and background memes made me love this ty (french hc enjoyer here, watching my city's hc scene growing more and more :D)

[@josephrodriguez4298]

Sounds like this guy learned about the history of hardcore from Chat GPT

[@noklarok]

sounds like he is dating Chat GPT

[@granolwad]

@@josephrodriguez4298 he is chat gpt

[@justsamguy5500]

sounds like he's sleeping with Chat GPT

[@maxr.k.pravus9518]

Yeah it's giving wikipedia vibes. But is it wrong?

[@Sumnerstreet]

@@maxr.k.pravus9518yes

[@therealamon]

Tik tok basically makes all the music we listened to decades ago popular for like a week or two sometimes for longer its a terrible thing and good thing because of exposure but also gatekeeping is needed

[@nerddookie]

i so agree with the gatekeeping thing. im in high school, so obviously i meet a lot of people who are extremely influenced by the internet. im mostly into emo and punk, but ill gatekeep any music based culture. ive had so many friends call themselves goth or emo and then get all sad when i tell them "no, you have to listen to the music. you can take inspiration from the styles, but loving the music is the magic of it." people just need to find alternative scenes they actually like

[@redlight3932]

i once got called a gate keeper for leaving the hardcore punk scene for personal reasons among not feeling connected to the people i was playing for anymore. i literally stopped involving myself and got called that just because i said it wasnt for me anymore. massive win for me because thats what was waiting for me if i stayed

[@resonancetides7196]

Gatekeepers are pathetic.

[@gabrielramosa13]

​@@resonancetides7196 they are bro, punk is about community and against authority, i get that some harcorde people are against posers but all we have to start somewhere

[@elpeluca7780]

​@@nerddookieppl need to mind their own business. Don't be so pathetic

[@saltyc]

I'm 58 and I was lucky enough to be around when hardcore started up. I think it's great that bands like Turnstile and Knocked Loose are receiving accolades. I've never understood "fans" who think they get to dictate what a band's artistic direction is. Back in my day, it was called selling out. I'm personally happy if a band I like becomes popular for the band's sake. Yeah, it can be annoying to see people jump on bandwagons, but I hate gatekeeping more.

[@nicholasrella6904]

I prefer to see bands evolve rather than repeating the same. If I don't like the new style, I simply don't listen. There are plenty of bands that have changed in ways I don't enjoy. I simply continue listening to the old stuff that I like and refrain from listening to the stuff I don't like. I don't see what's so difficult.

[@AtZero138]

Like what you said, also that you actually have music on your channel to check out.. Lot's of folks on here leaving strong words of opinion etc... Without a single band.. I'm 51 ... Been around a bit, grew up in Orange County CA 🇺🇸 The daily life was a sometimes violent encounter, Defending your Look or interest .. Trivial,, yes.. but we had a no posers vibe and proving your street reputation.. It was just life here.. At least we can still find New music.. I'll check your playlist Cheers from Westminster/Huntington Beach CA

[@frietstoof4120]

I prefer gatekeepers over influencers on a show any day of the week.

[@EvolutionaryHumanist]

Pest or Cholera

[@resonancetides7196]

Lol, go touch some grass.

[@gabrielramosa13]

why, gatekeepers suck ass

[@elpeluca7780]

Dumbass

[@mydogslikeboiledeggs7094]

Right, that's why I shun ppl who say they like "Hardcore." It's my job to keep punk rock elite.

[@Survivalist-of-war]

Hardcore scene is soo cringe now. 30 years ago it was decent. There's great Hardcore bands right now but the scene is just so bad. I just can't bring myself to go get crowd killed by some overweight guy.

[@brandondanner6404]

Or some some kid in skinny jeans😅

[@DankimusPrime420]

Is hardcore blowing up ? As a Cali native and La weeknd warrior there’s always a sick ass band and some foos ready to throw down

[@eliotttttt]

i would bet my life savings this dude has never been to a local show

[@Poisonthroat]

That’s the move so many online micro celebrities make. It’s actually aiding in the destruction of real communities fr

[@zack-lk8if]

bro thinks mainstream bands are the only shows that exist

[@julianolmos9842]

not at all

[@JeremyAndersonBoise]

Who you kidding? You ain’t got no money. Also, I think you may be precisely correct.

[@Mr8odoras]

exactly

[@ethanmurray-q8z]

You got it all wrong. The gatekeepers don’t wear Hatebreed SnapBacks they wear Hatebreed basketball vests…

[@brandondanner6404]

Exactly cuz you go to a show nowadays and dudes are there wearing skinny jeans. nothing about the hardcore scene and skinny jeans are relatable.. Hardcore is about poor kids being outcasts and being together, not rich kids hating on Mommy and Daddy, but still spending their money.

[@Batman-52]

I was at so many of the shows you posted lol that drunk girl destroying the drum set still one of the funniest things I ever seen

[@redlight3932]

glad i move so quickly from genre to genre i can flee like a refugee to other things while things slowly go to shit

[@feathersmcgraw4090]

😂

[@PoliticalDisaster]

I did not know Hardcore was getting more popular! Pretty cool to hear though and awesome video as always, will have to go back and listen to Minor Threat among others

[@ghost_to_a_ghost]

if you want to hear some newer hardcore bands, check out End It, Ingrown, Speed, and DRAIN. I'd consider the latter more of a mix of thrash and hardcore but those are some good newer bands to check out.

[@RabbiB0Y]

I wonder if there's any correlation to the rise in people getting radicalized into hate mobs. Since from what I understand hardcore was a very racist and homophobic scene (which prolly explains their hatred of pop punk)

[@ghost_to_a_ghost]

​@@RabbiB0Ythere's always going to be assholes anywhere, unfortunately. most people in the hardcore scene aren't like that at all, anymore. It was definitely more prevalent in the 1980's scene.

[@PoliticalDisaster]

​@@ghost_to_a_ghost Thanks for the suggestions man definitely gonna check them out

@@RabbiB0Y I'd say that crowd is more into Oi! & NSBM (Nat. Soc. Black Metal) these days. But then again I'm not really familiar with their whole scene.

[@jay20005]

im just a chill guy who enjoys some braid and capn jazz

[@dakistle]

Braid will always shred

[@Elandgol]

u r luvd

[@sixty2612]

1:15 LMAO IM IN THIS VIDEO that was from our local Halloween show in Tucson

[@booyeahinc]

MOM WAKE UP COOLEA DROPPED

[@A.D.I.D.A.S-916]

At least you made this one a little different I swear if I see another “Babe wake up” or “ 2 views in 10 second? Bro fell off” comment I’m gonna have an aneurysm

[@elpeluca7780]

Please stop the "wake up x dropped" meme, it's stupid

[@The69DJ]

my question then is: how would mainstream music fans be born organically? Seems to me like largely mainstream is manufactured so all that makes it is whatever music is being pushed the most.

[@subpar7404]

Mfw the video essay says nothing of substance

[@maxr.k.pravus9518]

There is substance. The video takes a really long time to elaborate on its title, but it does, albeit briefly.

[@enviro7673]

All I gotta say is, if you go to see a hardcore band that's opening for a thrash or death metal band, do your spin kicks while the HC band is on, but no karate in the pit while the thrash and death band plays

[@Joyceages]

That’s fair. If I go to a show that’s headlined by metal bands with hardcore bands in the line up I respect that. Though there are so many current metal bands consisting of hardcore kids that got their start playing hardcore shows before they blew up (Power Trip, Sanguisugabogg, 200 Stab Wounds, etc.). For instance I got into Power Trip from hearing them on Americas Hardcore comp in 2010. The last time I saw them before their frontman passed it was a mix of metal and hardcore kids. The pit was half push moshing and half two stepping/“karate”. I think in instances like this it’s acceptable to go out and kickbox it up since they are inherently a hardcore band even though they play thrash/crossover.

[@nicholasrella6904]

Most of us are too old. My karate days are long gone. I just had shoulder surgery. I can't even get dressed without assistance. I'm more into doom metal these days. Don't have the energy I used to. I prefer to smoke a J, drink a beer and zone out to something low and slow. It's such a peaceful crowd. No bumping or fighting. Everyone's too stoned and lazy to be an asshole. Sometimes it's nice to just chill and enjoy the music. My ideal show would provide a recliner with a cup holder and a bag of chips.

[@zack-lk8if]

or, here me out, read the room. local shows can have both, big shows are usually push pits but just stick to what everyone else is doing

[@TheOneWayDown]

​@@zack-lk8ifit's just tough cause when you mix metalheads and hardcore kids, the two have different expectations for what the pit is, so more people are gonna get hurt than would normally

[@xsubjx]

can we at least agree that 2 stepping or “moshing” in your bedroom as a viral dance trend is the cringiest symptom from all of this

[@A.D.I.D.A.S-916]

Been a knocked loose fan since 2016 when I first heard counting worms off of Laugh tracks and now they’re bigger than ever and I’m ngl I love when my favorite artists get the recognition they deserve. But at the same time I dislike when my favorite bands upgrade to normie tier and make it onto tik tok, why why why I’ve loved HC since middle school and NOW all the normies are into it? I used to be called dumb for willingly going to shows and jumping in the pit only to come out with a missing tooth and I loved every second of it

[@hangupgarfunkle5629]

thank you coolea, the video was wonderful, and as perususual the visuals were headache inducing, my favorite.

[@jonahblock]

people keep saying "gatekeeping" like it's a bad thing

[@A.D.I.D.A.S-916]

Exactly. I think it’s necessary to preserve an original sound or genre.

[@asceticsatan]

MY DAWG!!!!!!

[@jacobo.winograd]

Because some gatekeepers/elitist are very insufferable. But, I still thinking anti-gatekeepers and anti-elitist are SO MUCH worse.

[@CodyCockyote7046]

Because most of those people in HxCx and also Metal use "gatekeeping" to hide their mysoginy and racism.

[@MetalPersonJ]

@@jacobo.winograd You just proved OC's point.

[@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125]

*”ARF ARF”*

[@jamesriendeau7351]

I'm still waiting around for actual 80s style hardcore punk to get popular again. They type of music that they call "hardcore" nowadays is basically a type of metalcore or crossover thrash, and sounds nothing at all like actual hardcore like Minor Threat, Circle Jerks, Bad Brains etc.

[@NikkiLayne]

Watch out for my upcoming Hardcore project, Spin Kicking E-Girls for Fun

[@Pateo23]

Switched from being a life long metal head to the hardcore scene about a year ago. Started playing in a band and realized that the love and community you get from hardcore you can’t find anywhere else, where in the metal scene I was judged and treated as an outsider. Hardcore is my home now and I wouldnt trade it for anything

[@PushoverRecords]

to see bands like turnstile basically become alt rock is pretty hard to watch. but quite a few people listening to them (not all) don''t listen to actual hardcore bands. sad to see.

[@ghost_to_a_ghost]

they took the "we're trying something new" idea to a whole new level of trash

[@PushoverRecords]

@@ghost_to_a_ghost couldn't have said it better

[@heter0flexual623]

nothing more hardcore than a band making the music that they want to make. i mean isn't that counter culture itself to go softer rather than heavier?

[@andylane3739]

Need to clean fake HC out of your head? Listen to Crust band Disapprove.

[@tomobrien5345]

There has been loads of alt rock sounding HC adjacent bands since the 80’s. Even bands like Husker Du gaining some popularity

[@abominati0n]

u one of my fav youtube video makers coolie, banger video, they keep gettin better

[@midnightanimalism]

“…throughout the last decade or so, the introduction of the internet…”

[@x5noopy69]

Listening to hardcore for more than 15 years I can tell you it’s always had its waves of popularity

[@ericlester3782]

For the record, that was a huge myth about SSD. From what Al Barile & others have said, it wasn’t really like that. Watch Boston Beatdown if you haven’t already.

[@69bitPC]

30 mins is crazy how do u pump these videos out every week

[@jayjohnson2358]

the flute popularity pipeline is real

[@lucyalicenox5871]

People make it seem weak, but it has been a war instrument for a long ass time lol

[@fettjonjr]

gel is so sick. glad you mentioned them. been part of the scene since 2006 myself and its been so cool to see high school kids getting into this shit like i did. for a long time all i saw at shows was the same old heads that were there when i started. youth is what keeps things going. ive seen knocked loose in every era of their existence and they have never strayed from their roots which is so refreshing to see. some many bands change to be more accessible when they get as big as them.

[@thomasgomes844]

To the gatekeepers assuming everyone besides themselves are posers: people are multifaceted and nuanced. Just because their entire identity isn't consumed by one genre of music and it's community doesn't mean they don't legitimately connect with and enjoy the music, even if its a different way than you do. Just because someone has seen Kendrick Lamar or Tyler Childers(or both) live doesn't mean they don't belong at a local hardcore show. There is so much good art and music out there I don't see the point in limiting what you allow yourself to enjoy for the sake of 'cred' that has no value outside of the gatekeeping echo chambers. Pretty sad to see people take pride in their one dimensionality.

[@DancingSk3L3tons]

How dare you try to make sense and be mature enough to recognize people aren't one dimensional. If you want to be apart of this counter culture scene you better shove yourself into their pre approved box and act, dress, sound exactly like everyone else there. Stop trying to be yourself poser.

[@brandondanner6404]

You obviously don't know anything about hardcore then. The slogan is literally. Hardcore is a lifestyle

[@diontes1480]

I remember getting into it after watching a crossover show w DRI at 15. I never felt so safe with a bunch of 40 year olds beating the shit out of each other. Im almost 30 now, and grateful to see some of these bands rise up, work with some ot the artists listed in this video, or even know them. Its crazy how big it is, yet it is an extremely small world in this community.

[@dakistle]

Lol. I am 43 and all I want to see is the Dwarves and DRI

[@kookadams85]

1:29 *EXACTLY!* That's what hardcore was & *IS* ! Fear, Black Flag, Angry Samoans,...Stukas over Bedrock, Gang Green, Dwarves, Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Murphys Law, Zeke, Meatmen,..... Its NOT subjective, THOSE bands will forever define "hardcore". 'Night ladies 🇺🇲

[@CodyCockyote7046]

What about Discharge? They were kind of the 1st real extreme band. One of the oldest I can think of at least.

[@andylane3739]

Jerry's Kids,White Cross, Negative Approach. Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[@subcitizen2012]

Long story but, after going down a rabbit hole and seeing that Greg Ginn from Black Flag was still active with his own music and his record label, if I remember right. It turned out his studio property was 2 or 3 blocks away down the same street. I'd lived there on and off for 15 years, could've come in handy back when I was still active myself. You never know who's around the corner.

[@gabrielspeeed]

I was wondering what piece of questionable content I was going to watch after work today while smoking a fat joint. Open the app and here is your video. Thank you sir, you are the only possible british person ever.

[@stink-E-666]

its dumb to measure the state of hardcore by its mainstream popularity. and not that it should be exclusionary but hardcore is definitely not supposed to be widely appealing cus that defeats the purpose for the most part

[@morning_staar]

As a metalhead I don't know what hardcore is and after watching this video I still don't know. I usually just avoid anything that ends with "core".

[@b.w.22]

4:59 - Uh, describing the late-80’s/early-90’s NYHC scene as “welcoming” might be a bit of an overstatement.

[@JeremyAndersonBoise]

Yeah…I strongly agree, this guy is too young to have much perspective on it and researching it has to be difficult-to-impossible. But I liked the coverage of the more modern stuff.

[@b.w.22]

@@JeremyAndersonBoise - I don’t think I’ve ever been quite as on edge as I was when, along with a few other “DC Hardcore kids” visiting NY, we decided to catch a Murphy’s Law show. The City as a whole wasn’t very “welcoming” in 1989 or whatever year that was, honestly, but at least no one at that show was trying to smack cigs out of your hand or like try to get you to come to some event against apartheid.

[@tommybrian1188]

Was there late 80s to early 90s NYHC CBs ABC no rio lamour etc etc Welcoming is not the word that comes to mind

[@brkgunther]

This made me go binge watch Turnstile who I didn't know existed prior. Thanks. It brought up a lot of nostalgia and memories for me from a long time ago in a different place but the feelings were the same.

[@AdamMcGrath]

I was a teenage fan of hardcore music in the late 80s, I was also a fan of punk and metal...Considering that there was only ONE nightclub in my local town which played "heavy" music (ie. not chart music/dance music) and that it was also the only club with no dress code, ANYBODY who liked "alternative" music went there each weekend. It was the same all over the UK...There was no fighting going on between people over music, it was still just a case of "alternative" music vs pop music. The only type of metal that a lot of people didn't like was the poodle-hair/glam metal/"Poison" type bands, so we were actually happy when Nirvana arrived and killed off the poodle rockers because those bands lacked any authenticity. Nothing has changed much today, people can still smell inauthentic bands (and people) out at an instinctive level. Which is why hardcore is getting popular again. There is still only two types of music: real or fake, and the fakes are not usually difficult to spot.

[@ShawnSteven-d8h]

Fantastic work here by the way.

[@B33Ys]

you should do a vid with this exact title on edm hardcore directly after this vid and completely ignore the overlap in naming, just for fun.

[@sebas170278]

hardcore was here (the netherlands) mainstream during the 90's.. but that was what you calling edm these days.. so i clicked and was like.. oh that kind of hardcore 😉

[@trippdurden9381]

”two stepping to breakdowns” Outed yourself.

[@Toeeeees]

0:51 THAT VIDEO IS FROM MY LOCAL SCENE LMFAO😭😭

[@mybloodyvacuum]

eyoo which one is it

[@saintpoli6800]

Harm’s Way is still somewhat underground so we’re chillin

[@McLitty]

i fucken hate modern day hardcore knocked loose should not be under the same genre of minor threat

[@Cyperstudio]

BRING BACK THE "DEEZ" BLEEPS DONT ACT LIKE I DIDNT NOTICE

[@ndogg20]

I can relate. A week ago, we ordered pizza on the way home, told the delivery dude just leave it at the door. By the time we arrived, the raccoons were tearing it up, popped off some bird shot from a 12 gauge, it was blood, guts and pepperoni all over the front porch but we still made it to the Chicago Bad Brains reunion concert. Chicago and Bad Brains on the same bill! HR and Pete Cetera rocked the house, but those animal rights peeps were a buzz kill. In the end we all had a good laugh and called it a night.

[@5tran9eMCMLXXII]

Very creative

[@Joyceages]

I think it’s great that there are more people from different walks of life in hardcore now more than ever. When I started to going to shows back in 2006, a lot of shows were scary (I was 15) with crew beefs, fights, and crowd killing. I will say though that gatekeeping is acceptable to a point. Just like I wouldn’t go to a Artic Monkeys shows and start two stepping, don’t go to a hardcore show and complain that while you were in the front row recording on your phone that someone did a stage dive on your head.

[@D00M3R-SK8]

UK Hardcore is way better. Bands like Bleaks from Scotland. I never got into that "tough man" stuff from the states so much, TBH. I like my Hardcore to still sound like punk.

[@iachtulhu1420]

This! Give me ignorant blast beats, d-beats, incoherent vocals, overall fast and raw stuff any day over boring slug, tough guy beatdown and metalcore

[@Иблис96]

gate keeping is one of the best things that can happen to a community. there’s a reason why black metal isn’t filled with attractive posers

[@erikcarlson6374]

Good video, you got to the heart of it pretty well. I can see "hardcore" breaking itself into a couple different directions in the future as certain groups claiming the name and sound won't want to share space with each other.

[@oleksandrbyelyenko435]

Hardcore is popular? Again?

[@Poisonthroat]

So y2k, so hip, so hot lol

[@Raijin-RyuX24]

Louisville Hardcore scene! That’s my scene! The guys in K/L are in other local bands and are constantly supporting locally. I wouldn’t consider K/L hardcore. When I think of hardcore, I think of Terror or Bane. I discovered Straight Edge in the late 90’s and have been straight edge ever since. If it wasn’t for the local hardcore/punk scene, my choice to live a clean lifestyle, I’d probably be locked up or dead. Always grateful. Thanks for sharing.

[@IamIUrU77]

Krazy Fest, Louisville!!!!! Those were some good times!!!

[@Raijin-RyuX24]

Krazyfest was always fun. Mostly. Have a friend that almost lost his life one year breaking up a fight between a dude and his girl. He got jumped and police rolled up just in time to stop them from unaliving him. Other than that, yeah, the first year AFI played was mind blowing. I remember standing next to Davey Havok not knowing who he was and making fun of how he was dressed. Only to find out his band was headlining the day. And they were incredible live.

[@henryryk16]

8:13 "YOUR BODY BETRAYS YOUR DEGENERACY."

[@Themetalwookie666]

Honestly, I think the reason that we are seeing a resurgence in hardcore, heavy metal, and other forms of extreme music is honestly the same reason we saw all these styles come into being in the first place. Hard times call for hard music. Kieth Morris said it perfectly in the film American Hardcore, "It's friday night, I just got off work at my dead end job, my girlfriend sucks, my family sucks, everything is fucked, and I just wanna go break some shit." And what better way to go break some shit than to go to a hardcore punk or metal show and just get in the pit.

[@KrytoRift]

You skipped over the whole concept of crossover. Which I think is what influenced hardcore to sound more metal too

[@itsahsaladdays3226]

being 42 now and having grown up in and around the hardcore scene, seeing knocked loose terrorizing Jimmy Kimmel listeners and playing huge venues is pretty forking cool, feels good. Like wow, that’s cool, other people are finally catching on to something I’ve known for 20+ years.

[@reddotrecordings]

all imma say is bro called my band (the xbox generations) tiktok posers at 0:46 seconds, but makes hardcore videos for redditors thanks shoutout xbox

[@jackypapp6785]

Mad vid man. Many your points spot on. Sydney scene has had many of these peaks and valleys with their corresponding points of virtue & not. The great Toe To Toe but I don't think anyone has come close to them still to this day. Check out there Tao album if you are not familiar. Likely one of the best to ever do it. But I digress. Great vid 👍🏽✌🏽

[@otrivinity]

Fuck it I've been watching Coolea since like 1500 subs and todays the day I'll subscribe

[@rushrushw]

Noooooooo

[@Suburbannite]

his pretty blue eyes are making me angry

[@Mara-ovo]

I fucking love funk and jazz that I can spin kick to

[@PARTYMONST3Rxx]

I hope heavy music continues to rebel against corporate shit while pushing the independent and DIY movement to its absolute peak and make as much money for themselves as possible.

[@Volzotran]

Tbh as someone who mainly grew up in the metal culture there was never this notion of hardcore being gatekeepy, more so the opposite of metalheads despising them and you could until recently (before the tiktokification of every music scene) hear stuff like "no karate in the pit" all the time. Obviously all of it is cringe anyhow but imo hardcore moshing fits at hardcore shows and the different types of moshing should just stay separate. Also now that i am no longer an elitist teen, I personally do not have anything against hardcore anymore

[@themightymcb7310]

A healthy scene has room for both styles. Earlier this year I saw The Acacia Strain open for Dying Fetus. People were hardcore dancing for TAS and push pitting for Fetus. It was the same crowd, just acting differently for the two styles.

[@nicholasrella6904]

I agree, but it went both ways. I was a hardcore kid in the 90's and there was a lot of animosity towards metal. This is because the new school of hardcore starting losing the punk aspect of hardcore punk. Bands were becoming more and more metal to the point where there was no distinction between hardcore & metal. It seemed like every new metal band was calling themselves hardcore. I remember seeing many bands that were pretty much straight up death metal, yet were considered hardcore. We started having this attitude like "That's not hardcore! That's death metal." Of course now that I'm older, I don't care what the "genre" is called. If it's good, it's good and that's all that matters.

[@mittsommerregen2615]

Great creative video you made about a scene that got more and more interesting to me. As beeing in the metal scene in europe, i discovered so many bands with hardcore influence or hardcore past and most of them are awesome. Support your local subculture 🏴

[@tommyrutherford400]

What they won’t tell you about modern hardcore is that it kind of sucks

[@reidellis1988]

I am 54, and I knew Hardcore was not some passing phase for me when I was 15 years old.

[@SxGxNoise]

Long live underground music and fuck posers

[@Jones_707]

23:22 brooo that videos from SLC, crazy too see my local scene in a video, that guy dressed like soulja boy is the frontman for xforeverwarx, super chill dude

[@pvcore]

You don't need to play hardcore to be accepted by the scene. Knocked loose, military gun, tittle fight, etc are not hardcore bands. You can play post hardcore, screamo, powerviolence, grindcore, metalcore etc and be accepted in the hardcore scene

[@reubenrozeyt5716]

It might not be so bad because this might lead to more venues to open for up incoming bands to actually play live and not write a 3 minute song and hope that a 10 second clip on a TikTok clip to raise them to fame.

[@manuelbustmante9895]

25:36 I saw myself in the circle pit

[@michaelkozma5929]

I remember seeing Comeback Kid in 2006 at CBGB's NYC before it closed... ahhh the memories, great presentation video you have here. My favorite band was "WITH RESISTANCE" - "self titled album" and "Real Hardcore Kids Have Day Jobs" album from NJ, please check them out. Way ahead of their time musically, I always felt they always deserved bigger audience.

[@josephstalin322]

I got into hardcore through Sunami which coincided with me starting to go to more and more shows now that I have a car, revitalized my passion to be a musician, one that plays kick ass shows and has fun on stage, that’s all I want This all happened like 2 months ago, I’m currently writing music with my friend for a band we’ve formed Also fuck not a dime past 5, I want to use my e string as much as possible, I don’t even need distortion if I do (Bass)

[@alexirdesu9252]

The gutteral slug bit sent me

[@escherpainting8622]

It's very funny how all of this is unfolding. The nu metal, shoegaze, alt metal whatever trends that have unfolded over the last 4 or so years thanks to TikTok is almost poetic. Because the pipeline from Linkin Park to Deftones to Have Heart to Knocked Loose (insert any modern hardcore band name here) is the same one that pretty much all hardcore fans in their late 20s/early-mid 30s travelled through. But it took all of us like a decade. But TikTok's entire premise is short form content distributed quickly and fast and then moved on from. So the same exact ladder everyone else climbed is being scaled now but at about 20x the speed. Nice for some of these bands to have a renaissance but where it ultimately ends? Who can say.

[@The-xp4xj]

because its an easy way to stick out or be "unique"

[@josephbrooks4393]

Or the music could be good? Just needed that one band to push it into the “mainstream”

[@josephbrooks4393]

@@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 that’s bound to happen in any genre but the ones that stand are deserve the praise

[@YungGrandson]

@@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 what does that even mean. There is a thousand copies in every single genre

[@Indiofoo760]

You’re the gayest nerd in this comment section lmao, absolutely no one gives a fuck about that we literally just like the music. You’re 100% projecting you just want to feel unique & cool for being a metalhead so when you see normal kids getting into heavy music but it’s a subgenre that you don’t like you have to pretend like they’re all posers cause you’re an insecure dork that doesnt want to believe that “normie” looking kids who use TikTok could actually like heavy music cause the only thing you have to cling to & use to make yourself feel unique/cool & pretend like you’re not the enormous pathetic nerd you actually are is the fact that you like heavy music. There’s literally no other reason why dweebs like you say ret@rded shit like your comment besides that your fragile ego is threatened by normal kids getting into anything even remotely close to the one thing that provides you with the delusion that you’re not just like any other insufferable nerd on Reddit/4chan. & you can go ahead & try to tell yourself that just cause I typed a sentences it means I’m “triggered” or that I give a fuck about what you think or whatever you gotta say to make yourself feel better, but in reality it’s just really funny to make fun of dorks like you while I’m taking a dump & have nothing better to do lmao

[@whateveryasaypal5022]

​@@josephbrooks4393no such thing as good or bad music, get real

[@billg708]

Great video!! BTW 17:40 had me literally had me cracking up!!