The Reality for Wrexham AFC Next Season... Ep7

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

*** Wrexham AFC , I know 😂

[@SwanRonsonDonnyJepp]

Surviving a relegation fight or mid table next season is surely their goal. League 1 is a big step up. It's only gonna get harder, but I do hope they push on and get promotion number three. 2 years from now they could be a new Premier League side. Stranger things have happened. I genuinely wish them success next season. It's a fascinating and wholesome journey and the fans definitely deserve to see Wrexham thriving once again. Good luck 🤞

[@sachievargas4551]

@@SwanRonsonDonnyJepp I think promotion is in reach at this point of time, they can afford it and the management certainly is capable to. But its football mate, just saying theyve got the tools.

[@CozyHumanoid]

If you are a wrexham folk. You deserve every bit of this. The owners grew their love of the game throughout the seasons and now they really want to make sure that the team and the community are set up for success long before after they are gone. Im really happy that Ryan Reynolds became a passionate man for the game after owning the team.

[@nyfinest017]

I'm so happy for Wrexham. That team and town deserve everything they've earned. Rob and Ryan are the owners that teams wished they had.

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

Absolutely, well said 💪🏼

[@marktrevor9490]

Earned?????

[@giovanniporrasvillalobos1374]

I live in Costa Rica, Central America, and I have an original Wrexham shirt, the black one. I loved that shirt when I saw it in season 2 of "Welcome to Wrexham". It turns out that my youngest daughter traveled to London at the beginning of the year, and to Edinburgh, so, as she knows that I am a Wrexham fan, she arranged for a person from Wales to buy my shirt, and had it delivered to Edinburgh. Obviously, I wore my shirt on the day of promotion to League 1.

[@CreampiSenpai]

Aviation or TikTok or lease direct ? How og of a fan are you

[@ednic114]

I moved up to North Wales 7 years ago and something people don't realise is the divide between North and South Wales. Wrexham are the only team in North Wales and Rugby is far more of a South Wales obsession, North is football mad. All of North Wales will support Wrexham now and go to matches.

[@Itswilliams-xt7ti]

All of north wales supports liverpool mate

[@FAWicon]

@@Itswilliams-xt7ti dead club tho

[@kevjacko1974]

F**King awesome boys

[@mikedown1250]

ccfc scfc. wake up

[@dscott6629]

The North's football obsession is why Rob and Ryan are considering building a 55,000 seat stadium, based on the natural population catchment area that Wrexham sits in. Apparently a Championship level club in Wrexham could draw enough to justify that size of stadium. Obviously that would entail a massive upfront investment and change of venue, as well as becoming a big financial risk for the owners so not likely to happen. But based on current development plans for the Kop Stand, however, it looks like the default plan is to expand and upgrade the Racecourse one stand at a time over a period of years. That would mean upgrading the existing site to seat somewhere between 35 - 40,000. That would be a decent sized stadium even for the Premier League and reflect the fact that ticket sales are secondary to broadcast rights. No real financial reason to go bigger.

[@markthomasjones9520]

Been a Wrexham fan for 48 years i remember being at the racecourse when we had 25 thousand against Arsenal in the Quarter finals of the fa cup same season we had 25 thousand against Liverpool in the Quarter finals when kenny Dalglish made his debut then in a fa cup replay against west ham we had 18 thousand Wrexham have a catchment area of around 900 thousand in North wales and mid Wales its great seeing the kids walking around the town in Wrexham tops instead of Liverpool man utd etc UTST ❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@tinawilson260]

I've been fan ahem few decades too. Can't get a flipping ticket anymore😢 gutted!! Always on kop til it closed! Unfortunately in wheelchair can't get season ticket anywhere in ground til new kop built. The membership is 30quid even then not guaranteed a ticket! No more ifollow now either! True fans forgotten about if IMHO 😢

[@petercook6339]

Me too was there for the arsenal game 3-2 arsenal Tottenham also in the cup and the arsenal Mickey Thomas free kick game 7-1 against Rotherham the year we went up great memories ….watching from downunder now …..people here even have heard about wxm ..long may it continue❤

[@ThaGreatKingLeo]

I think a part that a lot of people are not talking about is the exposure that wrexham get can attract players that they cant afford ideally. But with all the attention there will surely be players willing to take a pay cut to play for wrexham. Especially when they eventually go to the championship. It's a win-win for both parties. More eyes for said player to build their brand and potential big earnings for wrexham in transfers if they overperform.

[@steelsheen]

yeah, and its not even really a pay cut per se, because the Wrexham contract being offered to players are over a longer period, like 2-3 years. thats a big deal to players who has to deal with yearly / seasonal contracts as a norm, so not only are they being offered to play for a popular team (even if they are in a lower League), but they also get job stability thats longer than a year. also if the player is smart (which Wrexham players all seem to be luckily enough) , if he has Tier 1 or 2 experience and made to compete with teams Tier 3 and below while in Wrexham, then thats relatively easier to win games. so basically the package is: job stability, more opportunity for branding exposure, and easier games to win. plus the icing on the cake being that the FC Owners are hilarious and genuine good guys, and your team mates and team staff are not d!cks (to quote Ollie).

[@Dan-mo1wl]

Good pod. Only thing I'd say is the club was sold for £0 but on the condition that 2mill was injected straight away

[@manningbartlett522]

My understanding is that the actual profits from the documentary are going into Rob/Ryan's production companies, and not directly to Wrexham. However, Rob and Ryan (via some commercial entity) are continuing to provide substantial loans to Wrexham, with no apparent repayment schedule in place. So the documentary is underwriting Wrexham indirectly. Meanwhile, the indirect financial benefits of the documentary to Wrexham AFC are - obviously - massive.

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

Yes that’s sounds about right. There’s some that don’t like that , but the reality is , Wrexham are benefiting indirectly 💪🏼🙌🏼❤️

[@highrofellos6721]

@@WhatsTheDealWithSports I believe Rob had sold the 1st two seasons of the docu-series before a club had even been directly targeted for purchase so the payments for those episodes going to a production company would make sense since the deals were signed before the club was even acquired directly.

[@leonbrooks2107]

Another brand I could imagine putting a bid in for the kit manufacturer is Under Armour. They are making a big push into football shirts and something like the Wrexham kit would be perfect for them with all the free advertising it will bring them .

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

Yea good shout 💪🏼

[@missduffypenny]

They also got one fan from switzerland here🙋🏻‍♀️ Great pod. subscribed for the LRZ/Draft coverage, but happy to see some wrexham stuff. looking forward to more of that and the NFL👍🏻

[@jjones7535]

Thanks for this video! Was an absolute fantastic watch this was lads 👏

[@louisgarcia2292]

Love the Pod…. You both work well together. A lot of great info!!

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

Thanks so much Louis

[@ccy8379]

Good program, thank you. Best of luck in future.

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

Thanks very much , really appreciate the comment

[@MadHatter-cj8bh]

I liked the first season of Welcome to Wrexham and season 2 was ok, but I'm not really into season 3. What keeps me as a fan is just the quality of play and the potential for the future.

[@Mark-xg8ug]

Season 3 is my favourite so far.

[@NIXXUN]

Season 3 is popping off tho

[@nerdmom_quilts]

Really enjoyed this content. Would love to see a follow-up now that the 2024-25 season has started.

[@nishinasuno]

Thank you for the break down of their financials. Its estimated that each episode of Welcome To Wrexham generates about $400,000.

[@DraigBlackCat]

Sean Harvey confirmed in the club's April Fan Consultation meeting that we don't get anything from the series except exposure.

[@crondeau7553]

Going to see Wrexham in Vancouver this summer !!! ⚽️⚽️⚽️

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

That’s awesome! Hoping to get out ourselves

[@DaveEvans-l7i]

Im a Wrexham bloke. Born in wxm. Still here.

[@LiamRobertsWxm]

Brilliant watch lads 👏🏻

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

Thanks so much Liam 💪🏼really appreciate it mate

[@RichardGadsden]

I think the Welcome to Wrexham contract is with Ryan and Rob, not with Wrexham AFC themselves. That means that when they say how much money they are putting into the club, they aren't mentioning how much of that is Disney money. But also: the Disney money can't last forever. No-one's going to watch Season 15 about a mid-table Championship team. They need to build something that is sustainable without Disney's help. And, while Rob and Ryan are rich, they're not rich in the way the Qatari royals are at Paris Saint-Germain to bankroll a top-level club entirely out of pocket indefinitely. So: perhaps they can make the money back that they are putting into the club from Disney, rather than needing to take money out of the club at some point to repay what they put in. But once there's a 30K stadium and a Championship team, then it needs to pay for itself.

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

Nicely put Richard, thanks so much for the input

[@ThaGreatKingLeo]

Funny how people keep calling it a Disney show when in reality Disney is a secondary distributor. It's a FX show

[@denisecharles6992]

Don’t forget over 10,000 members £30 a person!! And this season it’s going up

[@beanstable]

New song entering the charts - Super Paul Mullin (Taylors version)

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

😂😂😂💪🏼

[@andrewmerritt5375]

Season tickets thankfully haven’t gone up if you renewed by a certain date. Think they went up around £20 if you missed the deadline. Enjoyed the pod really good info in there.

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

Thanks Andrew

[@yellopops]

Not sure why lots of football fans slate Wrexham and their owners, I mean Ryan & Rob literally showed you their business model. How are you going to be mad at them for making money & investing in their club? It’s genuinely so funny watching these fans use their brains sometimes.

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

They’re doing great things with Wrexham. The club is in a great position and it’s clearly having a positive effect on the town and surrounding area. Long may it continue

[@yellopops]

@@WhatsTheDealWithSports other football owners could learn a thing or two about making money & reinvesting back into the club

[@robby1816]

May I suggest some graphics for all those numbers in the first minute of this video. That was hard to picture, without a picture.

[@zh2184]

The stadium aspirations spoken about on this show and by Rob may be realistic for the ownership in their minds, but in reality not doable. In America, The NFL stadium in Green Bay, Wisconsin (Lambeau Field) was built up at the original site from a 32,000 seat bowl to eventually, over decades, seat more than 80,000. Knowing the nightmare of getting building permits in the UK, it doesn't seem possible to replicate that knowing how much easier it is to get those permits in the states.

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

We love the ambition, and in time who knows.

[@xorcst]

Glad to see you are a fan of the Great State of Texas. Go Cowboys!! Go Rangers!!

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

Would LOVE to get to Texas some time soon .

[@youtuberpov]

They can increase GA ticket price just have a local (must be wrexham resident) raffle ticket set sold for a discount

[@markballard9942]

The 2022-2023 rest of the world streaming was only available from December on in the National League.

[@colinmorrison5119]

Wrexham's unusual high profile could make them an attractive club to on loan Premiership players, youngsters trying to make a name for themselves. Parkinson explained why they had to let go of 8 senior players - league rules mean the first team squad is 22 players, excluding keepers and under 21s, iirc. They had no choice but to cull older players to make way for, let's face it, much higher tier players.

[@Qoracao]

With the new Sky contract, I'm interested to see if that's gonna help

[@jonsimpson3083]

Out of respect to Rob you're going to have to replace those Cowboys footballs with Eagles ones and the Jersey Devils Jersey with a Flyers one.

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

😂😂😂we’ve got an eagles jersey tbf

[@PaddyPower_IRL]

That’s 🤣… let’s see if he does it again.

[@rafaelrondon1813]

I don't think the team gets any of the tv show revenue. Rob and Ryan do though, and they put it into the team.

[@shawnduffy279]

Not sure what amounts to a "small fee" in the UK but my sub to iFollow was $188. And you are only allowed to watch Wrexham. Closest thing to that price here in the states is the NFL package at +$200 and you get a lot more content for that price. I don't know what iFollow plans to do this year but, too rich for my blood. I'll support Wrexham in other ways. 👀🤣

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

If you can watch most Wrexham games for $188 then that’s v good value from a UK point of view

[@shawnduffy279]

@@WhatsTheDealWithSports Oi. Well then ... I don't know what else to say. lol 😳

[@jrosesftv]

Sky Sports is owned by Sky Group which is owned by Comcast. Comcast is the largest tv provider in the U.S. with over 14M subscribers. They broadcast Premier Leagues matches in the U.S.. Comcast is the largest content provider in the U.S. with NBC, Universal Studios, Telemundo (Spanish speaking network), CNBC (business tv) and many more. Over 50% of the channel lineup here in the states regardless of tv package carrier (Telco, Cable, Satellite, Internet) is Comcast content. They will have no problem bring Wrexham and EFL to the masses.

[@highrofellos6721]

I could see 25-35K seating, but 50+ seems overly ambitious especially since Humphrey has stated that there are issues with building the new stand because of what they found tearing down the old one. Stuff not on the plans, etc.

[@sinep8008]

everything is doable with enough money. They should slowly increase capacity to 30k to compete in the championship then try and increase it to 50k for the prem if and when they get there.

[@davidjones272]

The population of Wrexham probably isn't 50,000. There's no way they'd be able to come to close to filling something that big.

[@highrofellos6721]

@@davidjones272 You realize that fans are allowed to travel to each game from outside Wrexham right?

[@sinep8008]

​@@davidjones272 A quick Google search would tell you that it's over that. It's almost triple that amount. But you're right that they would not be able to fill that many seats....at the moment at least. But I do see them gaining more fans outside of Wrexham as they keep getting promoted. If they make it to the prem then they will have no problem filling those seats in my opinion.

[@robdavies4848]

Wrexham maybe small but the population of north Wales is over 700,000

[@SofiaFreja]

the iFollow subscription fee for outside the UK isn't exactly small. It's about $32 US per month. In contrast that's double the price of MLS, which is $15 per month on Apple TV. Although if you're a season ticket holder for any MLS team you get MLS Apple pass for free. I would also add that Wrexham team merch is a bargain in the USA, where a primary team jersey costs about $48. Compare that to an MLS team jersey at $194. Or an official Tottenham jersey in the USA for $95. Do Americans really pay nearly $200 (£153) for MLS gear? Yes they do, because they're bonkers. Wrexham could likely increase the cost of their merchandise outside the UK and make substantially more money.

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

That’s crazy the cost of Wrexham jerseys stateside 🤪

[@tinawilson260]

We have to pay 10gbp each time to watch and that's only outside the 3pm thing. At least u guys get to watch each game...we don't. It's like a huge kick in guts can't even get a ticket I live 8 mile away😢 bin with them through thick and thin even took 3hrs to dig mini buses out of snow so we could go to Wembley.! They charge 30quid a member even then not guaranteed ticket! When you have stood on the kop watching them win lose or draw on a cold wet Tuesday night with barely 2/3k it's pretty disheartening tbh people seem to forget it's us the true fans who saved those scumbags taking away our beloved club❤

[@hgm8337]

I fear they may get battered next season from the big teams such as Birmingham / Hudds

[@CryptikConstruct]

Wrexham AFC get £0 directly for WtW. I've heard that a couple of times, no direct payment.

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

Yes it seems so

[@mikedown1250]

30000k stadium for me

[@arwelp]

Wrexhams’ biggest-ever crowd, in the days when it was mostly standing, was 34,445 against Manchester United in the 1957 FA Cup. I can’t really see how a 50,000 stadium would work, 25-30K maybe. Even raising the capacity to 16500 is slightly problematical for environmental reasons - authorised capacity is, I think, about 600 less than what they’re planning to build, because the towns’ sewerage system isn’t thought to have the capacity to handle the toilets!

[@sinep8008]

50,000 stadiums will work as long as they keep having success. The higher the league, the more people want to see it. This is true based on how much the championship teams get paid compared to League 1 teams. It's not just a small jump in revenue like it is for League 2 going to League 1. They currently have 12,500 seats and are still having massive issues with people not being able to get tickets. They're getting hundreds of ticket sales for people that are overseas. Unfortunately for the team, they will need to increase the seating significantly if they want to compete with the top championship teams. What sucks about that is they will run into issues like you said with the sewerage system that will slow them down.

[@mcraw4d]

Very good point. They could offset some of that with grey water cisterns that filter the water for use on the field or recycle back into toilets. Waterless urinals can also drastically reduce water/sewage needs as well. Sill don’t think that would be enough to sustain a stadium bigger than 20K.

[@Red_Snappa]

Those sewage limitations you refer to have now been lifted and the full capacity has been given the green light. So it will be up to 16,500 WHEN/IF it actually gets started....which no-one seems to know the answer to (outside of the club of course)!

[@SeanHomsher-ef3mx]

All great except for all the Dallas Cowboys swag. You need a real team like Rob’s Philadelphia Eagles represented there!😀🦅

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

Not the first comment saying this! We got you, Eagles swag incoming

[@rafd3593]

You lucky team, you’ll be playing Posh next season. Quality coming to The Racecourse Ground 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@Ricardo-jl6qd]

Had some good visits to Peterborough. A dear departed friend of mine was friends with a couple of posh fans and we used to meet up on match days. I did get lost once when I drove looking for the oundle turn off 😂

[@rafd3593]

@@Ricardo-jl6qd Hope you make it OK next time. Oundle a nice place to get lost. Should be interesting to see how your team fares in League One.

[@brynhughes2658]

AFC Wrexham? 👀

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

I know, I know… sometimes things come out wrong 😂

[@jonathonlongifeld8245]

Who’s the ghostbusters fan

[@WhatsTheDealWithSports]

That’ll be Dave 🙌🏼🔥

[@MountscribeSteve]

Won't finish top half

[@imageaware]

The debt is all Wrexham's and the income is all R&R's. It will end in tears.