The Reality of Women in Sports Broadcasting | Not Just Football EP 7

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[@neveryoumind2229]

5 hours and 177 likes says it all.

[@4playification]

The problem with women’s sports isn’t men, it’s that women would rather follow and watch reality tv than sport. Some things sell better than others to men and women, sports for women just isn’t as popular as for example reality tv or the make up/fashion industry

[@johnrowell3583]

Yep. Bill Burr has a great comedy rant on this.

[@Jimbobiscuit]

They're talking about equal pay for presenting, not playing.

[@sexy11legs]

Same point still stands, they're not good at that either

[@MrEdcrowley100]

​@@Jimbobiscuitno one care though.

[@Jimbobiscuit]

@@MrEdcrowley100 Look at the comment section. Plenty people care

[@Bert-lw1ot]

Until there is equal revenue generated, it’s not a conversation

[@waynereid9471]

Yep , I bet it comes in before that though 😊

[@KT_P_James]

Did you watch? And if you did, did you listen?

[@Bert-lw1ot]

@@KT_P_Jamesno I didn’t watch, no one wants to watch them presenting either

[@waynereid9471]

@ I didn’t watch or listen 😇

[@hooky17]

@@Bert-lw1ot how shocking

[@psycshane]

That's like saying the mechanic in your local garage should be paid the same at the mechanic in F1. Doesn't work like that......

[@tomlawlor3617]

Local mechanics often make more than f1 mechanics

[@psycshane]

@tomlawlor3617 not where I'm from

[@grahamdawson8836]

Christine said 'finally we had an all femals camera crew on loose woman' and she was somewhat congratulated. If it was said about an all mens crew then it would be labelled sexist

[@USCFlash]

I am a man and i play guitar at a bar three nights a week. I usually draw a crowd of about 15 extra people or so. I demand to be paid the same as Taylor Swift and Beyonce.

[@user-xx7tv7cc1y]

I don't have a problem with women complaining that they don't get paid enough in sports. The problem I have is that we're being told that it's the fault of the viewers who just simply don't want to watch them. That is the equivalent of a musician, booking out a venue, asking the venue to sell the tickets, finding out nobody turns up, and getting angry that nobody wanted to watch you perform. Ronda Rousey herself got asked this question and shut it down because she was being paid more than the men on the exact same card. She recognised it was because she was entertaining and people wanted to watch her.

[@dunkymak]

Revenue drives earnings!! bring in more views!

[@JasonWilliams89]

Hard to do that when audiences are sexist

[@Jimbobiscuit]

They present on men's games though.

[@MrEdcrowley100]

​@@JasonWilliams89Jason, get some help.

[@ZzzZzz968]

@@Jimbobiscuitwhich they shouldn’t

[@sib1930]

​@@JasonWilliams89Don't you ever get bored of playing the victim

[@markfour2841]

Women covering women's sport. Men covering men's sport. It just makes sense !

[@jamesnewstead7099]

Why is it that women who are new to broadcasting the men's game and have never played the men's game would be paid the same as men who have done it longer or have played the game???? Instead of harassing people for more money become indispensable and earn more money

[@Jimbobiscuit]

I had no idea Mark Chapman used to be a footballer 🤔

[@user-jk1fw2we1c]

Like any other industry, if you bring in the money, youll get paid more. Unitl that happens, get on with it.

[@HM13895]

They're talking about presenters, not players.

[@miniman2132]

@@HM13895these people don’t care.

[@CglxDowson]

The views on these episodes speak for themselves

[@reapergaming9024]

I think the main reason there is so many complaints about women in mens football is because this is all they go on about. Yes, the men and women kick a ball around for a living, does not mean its the same game. The women need to build the profile of womens football, bring in the fans which will bring in sponsors which will being in more money.

[@Kiluei]

Women in sports broadcasting should obviously have equal pay. A female presenter should get the same salary as a male presenter. There's no difference there. They do exactly the same job. But when its about sports it's different. Female footballers for example play in an industry that doesn't make as much money as the male football industry. It would be an outrage if a female CEO at a bank for example got less money than a male CEO at the same bank. But the striker of Women's Liverpool making far less than Darwin Nunez or Jota, is completely logical.

[@stval]

Every male model should be paid the same as Naomi Campbell. They do the same job.

[@MrShawzyy97]

I’m sorry but until there’s an equal level in quality the pay gap should be greater for men in football 100%

[@Jimbobiscuit]

Did you even watch the video?

[@MrShawzyy97]

@@Jimbobiscuit some before I’d heard enough

[@wesleymaistry6278]

Money was not designed to be shared equally

[@Lean1435-v8e]

😮 - Karl Marx

[@andreidoanca4262]

@@Lean1435-v8e 😂😂😂

[@ElectronicChateau]

Not a peep on men in women's sports, absolute hypocrites.

[@hooky17]

What?! Nobody’s talking about women in men’s sport either

[@HM13895]

That's not even close to hypocrisy.

[@andrewgriffiths3507]

You would bankrupt women’s football if you equal pay. Think 💭

[@md-ps2hx]

I agree with equal pay. The MEN should get paid the same as the WOMEN, that should solve the issue.

[@Danny_kay]

Well its not a issue, If men generate more money therefore they get more it really is that simple if women was generating the same amount of money then women will obviously get paid the same. Men shouldn't get paid less to keep women happy if women want more then generate more, And all this just to be equal therefore it can't be equal since women aren't generating equal amount of money to the men.

[@MrShawzyy97]

Difference in quality is massive. Until they hit a similar level then let’s talk but watching women is awful. Any Sunday league team would batter them 😂

[@summan41man]

I think Southampton should be awarded the same league points as Manchester City. Why should Manchester City win more games and attain more points?

[@PickleRiiiiick]

Equal pay for presenters, yes coz ypu are doing the same job but not equal pay for athletes as the money involved in mes far outweighs womens so thats why they're a discrepency. You cant say you want to prove how good womens football is for example but then ride off the success of the mens game with your pay. You want the money before the success so then really, is it only money that matters?

[@_Super_Hans_]

Bring the men's pay down not the woman's up I'm sure they'd still have something to cry about because in reality they don't care about equal pay they just want more money.

[@captaindusk8097]

Sunday league player here, we should get equal pay too!

[@Mil-w6d]

Interesting that Kelly and Hayley are the daughters of Scottish legends Kenny Dalglish and Gordon McQueen. I wonder if Dalglish and McQueen played together for Scotland in the 70s

[@whh3946]

WEF winding you all up by design

[@murphyebass7837]

That thumbnail was always going to spark a fun comment section. Ultimately more people watch men’s football than women’s. This equates to more revenue. You can’t just randomly close a pay gap. 😂

[@GoonerSE]

The problem with womens football is thats its an embarrassingly poor level. Under 15s at best..

[@Jimbobiscuit]

Who's on about womens football?

[@winterbird4447]

Equal pay wihout equal revenue is insane.

[@evanlloyd8155]

Start the conversation when there’s equal revenue.

[@leespencer9788]

You won't find a podcast where male models want equal pay to female models. Women hold more value in that field. The Tennis example is hilarious. Imagen equal pay in any other job for working less hours. 😂

[@bensc260]

Do you want to know whats wrong with these debates for the last 10 years? You only have the people who want something debating. If me and the other brokers were asked if we deserved more pay wed all sit around a table and give you 500 reasons why we do.

[@apexpred3262]

Games don't generate the same revenue literally that simple. Same way a Championship player doesn't earn what the average Prem player would.

[@Jimbobiscuit]

But they present on men's games...

[@FifaZetris]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

[@ghgoogle5238]

Equal pay should be based on commercial value alone. So if womens football gets Accrington Stanley value that is what they get paid. If like the USA Women's football squad held a greater commercial value than the men's. Yes, they should be higher in value. As they weren't it was a travesty in pay equality.

[@matty832]

It's like saying all footballers should be paid the same

[@kurir000]

It's not though is it

[@matty832]

@@kurir000 how is it not?

[@casa0123]

But why do we need all of a sudden so much decoration on sports programs......?

[@Watsahandle21]

Tuned in Tuned out. Sorry young King Kenny you don't Count ❤

[@TheDjcarlos67]

As long as the presenters are good enough, then they should all get equal pay and conditions. However, if you’re a well known ex-pro player, you’ll command more due to your career and reputation. There are plenty of crap male and female presenters who are unbearable to watch/listen to

[@liamrobinsonsanchez]

Exactly .. like Micah Richards.. can’t stand him as a pundit. Such a hard listen and watch when he’s on

[@Ianwoo720]

I’m not here to watch I’m just here to make sure the right comments were made, and no I didn’t listen or watch. The fact that you could see the words equal pay is ridiculous. Have the conversation when the income generated is equal, not when there’s a huge difference. Silly people

[@dutchgiggler4824]

Mens soccer built an empire then you want half , same old story. Sexism/feminism at its worst , disgusting

[@Theflapsface]

Classic men here not even listening to the episode before making judgements...

[@kevinkelly4680]

Shut it zippy

[@stval]

I watched it and some of the arguments are even worse than the assumptions. Serena Williams example was so laughably ignorant on what people get paid for and they all nodded their heads and thought what a great point.

[@K-E-N-07]

This conversation is so finished

[@williamm1624]

What is this wokery?

[@grafter86]

What does wokery mean?

[@CarlClinto]

This comment section absolutely reeks of lynx Africa and balding men who are afraid to speak to women in the real world 😂😂

[@trident272-m6q]

The video itself reeks of delusion, self-entitlement, and zero understanding of economics 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ETH-Fitness]

No male representation ?

[@trudylapinskis3040]

Well done ladies, awesome episode 👏

[@chrisguest778]

SIMP

[@notherejsh]

What a depressing comment section. Some truly embarassing opinions from people that haven't even watched it.

[@captaindusk8097]

should change the thumbnail and subtitle then.

[@Trudon]

Half an hour of pseudo feminism? No thanks

[@notherejsh]

@@Trudon look how fragile you are, you click on a video to have a little cry in the comments rather than just ignore it.

[@lilydoll7366]

this was really captivating!! would love more episodes like this to be honest :)

[@garysmith3976]

Until the women's game generates the same revenue and interest as the mens it obviously doesn't deserve equal pay. It's blatantly simple.

[@Jimbobiscuit]

They're talking about presenters not footballers

[@teza1383]

This is such a silly conversation to have. Equal pay for Equal value. Your gender shouldn’t specify your value to your profession- your ability to capture an audience should.

[@garethreid327]

That is like a man and a woman open two separate businesses on same street and the women's one is failing or not as good etc and saying we'll because she's a lady we will make sure she makes the same as the other one ... your earn based on what you make economics

[@wtfamiactuallyright1823]

27:07 in and I think you mistake "sexism" for things that most men, just don't care about. I really wish I hadn't watched this, because it's been added to my now LONG list of why men and women's sports, should be separated in ever way. Not my original position, but congrats ladies, you've convinced me over the last 20 yrs of my 43 year existence. 😒

[@MikePL101]

Time to unfollow the overlap..

[@lilydoll7366]

this not an airport, you do not need to announce your departure :)

[@stephen-fu2ls]

The disappointment when this shows up on my feed 😕

[@pierre3903]

Ye ok so everyone should het the same pay as Ronaldo and Messi

[@Jimbobiscuit]

You can practically smell this comment section.

[@dylanevans4368]

why do they earn more than league 1 player when they are no better? seems sexist to me

[@jiggadaboom]

Equal pay 😂 you do not generate the revenue 🤯

[@axterix2057]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@oj8198]

saw the thumbnail, i've only clicked to dislike. please stop going on about equal pay until you start bringing in the same numbers

[@TheDude3007-dd7fg]

At least you are honest . But if you had looked beyond the clever clickbait you would have seen they are talking about their roles & experiences as presenters & the disparity in pay within that sphere .

[@Jimbobiscuit]

So you missed the part where they're talking about presenters not footballers? Cool.

[@crampton-pr5mo]

Equal opportunities those without an ex footballing dads pr footballer husbands getting opportunities

[@rrogan91]

Ok let’s do it … where you getting the money from in the women’s football to pay them girls? Oh… take it from the men’s side/revenue… Hang on 🤔

[@broalan7915]

Cost of living

[@burt93]

The men watch the men’s football, so it’s the women’s job to watch the women’s football, but most women don’t like football so they can’t rely on the men to watch it to bring in the revenue 😂

[@HM13895]

Any bloke who has an issue with women presenting men's sports just reeks of mummy issues and insecurity.

[@fargodavilleitnotd6729]

I just like presenters who get it right. Kelly is the best for me out of the women She's a face from my childhood and jas a great sense of humour and she kmows her onions Others I've seen and have an issue with have been terrible. Gabby logan is great too the thing is both Gaby and Kelly are from sporting backgrounds and they not only jave highly developed opinions on the game but they also get it.

[@EricPollarrd]

Lmao corner shop demands as much revenue as Amazon 😂😂😂 tHe iNtErNeT iS DiViDeD 💩💩💩💩

[@callummolloy3690]

Equal pay is nonsense

[@jm7326]

I see this and think it’s a pointless statement as many here have said revenue drives the pay scales also I wonder how many clubs with ladies teams are supporting them through the loss of revenue of running them . I see Sir Jim Radcliffe saying a while back that it cost Manchester United over 10 million a season to run a ladies side and that was after there revenue was taken into consideration.

[@lovmorvr]

This show is going places giving each their platform to have constructive convo thanks for educating me even more on football plus i njoy women football n it was nice to seat n watch these beautiful ladies have a convo

[@sportsthink]

Looking forward to this one - so many great female presenters here in the uk 🇬🇧

[@Teabags092]

For those of you posting misogynistic comments on these vids could you please just not 👍🏻 getting very boring.

[@jonnystaffs]

In what way are the comments misogynistic?

[@dunkymak]

@@Teabags092 Don’t see misogyny anywhere, if something doesn’t generate income you can’t expect to be paid at the same rate as something that does… NBA and the WNBA prime examples having business sense isn’t misogynistic

[@ThatInnerVoiceOfReason]

Pick me much? go fold some knickers!

[@J73377]

@@ThatInnerVoiceOfReason😂😂😂😂😂

[@wodm]

The men don't get equal pay. Man city keeper 100k per week, we'd ward at forest green 800 quid a week, which level do they want equality with?

[@LewBagsLive]

Looking forward to listening to this! 👏

[@marcushicks1107]

Literally ruining the men’s game so stick to youre own

[@TheDude3007-dd7fg]

👏🏻 KUDOS TO THE THUMBNAIL EDITOR .. EXCELLENT USE OF CLICKBAIT !! 🫡 reeled 'em in hook , line & sinker ... BRAVO !!!!! 😂 😂