The Red Queen Problem - Jordan Peterson

[@TheArchangel911]

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[@rarefactionmedia]

TheArchangel911 thanks for posting these w the links

[@JackHaveman52]

@Delphinium Flower The Bible and mythology are the same thing. They reflect our inner psychological selves through metaphors told as myths. It's the result of thousands of years of discussing the merits of these stories, their meaning and how they should impact our lives. It's our history, our evolution. The end result of that mythology is our survival. I wouldn't call that a dubious result.

[@technoch1ef]

Hey, you're missing links in description

[@rocksparadox]

@Delphinium Flower Mythology is a product of the (ancient) human psyche but that might be a concept which is far too complex for anime loving millenial windbags to understand.

[@BarbaraMerryGeng]

Jack Haveman / Well said !

[@Bluecloudprod]

"Anytime ANYTHING is working you should just be amazed by it." - Jordan Peterson

[@alex.wulfgarmerstdigborge2889]

went from going to the moon to just be happy you actually lived through a day

[@foyjamez]

I need to memorize this.

[@Murphmonster69]

That’s a very Buddhist mentality in my opinion. Expect things to not quite go as planned but when they go well enjoy while it lasts.

[@ExistentialWill]

Yeah, no, I would not be amazed of tyranny "working". What an idiot.

[@thomaswijgerse723]

@@ExistentialWill that's not his point. if there is tyranny, civilization isn't "working".

[@vinayseth1114]

'Life is like a bicycle. To stay in balance, you must keep moving'-Albert Einstein.

[@1845Raven]

I’ve met a few people who could balance on a bicycle and stay in one place. I imagine there might be some wisdom in that???

[@tenderthoughts]

Type in: Albert Einstein was a fraud.,Talmud. enjoy

[@yazanodeh8002]

Alberts and their damn bicycles

[@alandrian]

@Dr. M. H. no its not because true equilibrium is the balance of 2 things when you take one polar opposite of something it cannot be equal. Stillness is the polar opposite to movement its the middle ground that is true equilibrium. Oh and yea it just takes a little bit of practice to balance on a bike not moving.

[@Nowhy]

A really bad analogy, for a bycicle can only move 2D and is technical, not biological. But hey, what can one say about life if one believes in Spinoza...

[@Cheapers-Vac]

I know a little about PTSD. I have had it since I left Vietnam July of 1969. It took another 25 years before I came out of denial about it. Could not trust the VA. Went to a clinical psychologist. Learned to avoid the triggers or at least to not over react. Avoided drugs and just drank a beer or 2 with buddies. I decided to make the condition work for me. I studied. Still do. Love Simon Sinek , Chris Duane and Jeff Lawton, Michael Reynolds and Dr.JB Peterson. Awesome fellows , Gentlemen All. They are not afraid. They love Truth for the beauty in it. High value Men. Highly esteemed men of God. Whether they know it or not.

[@samanthaworkman-fenn8754]

James Oliver you made a beautiful statement....thank you for your input and may GOD richly Bless you

[@jaydee1024]

First and foremost Thank You for your service and sacrifice to our country. Concerning Dr Jordan Peterson as a man of God, I'd be careful about that. While he doesn't seem to have anything against Christianity, and no doubt he's done alot of good for those who haven't come to faith, his theories on faith are still based on evolution. And so while what he's saying might agree with God's teaching, his reasoning still points to evolution as the source, and if you listen for long enough a person could get indoctrinated into evolutionary thinking while barely being aware of it.

[@classicaldeb]

God bless you, and thank you for your service!

[@jacobnowicki3790]

you can believe in god and evolution.

[@mebenn3382]

I know it's late but welcome home.

[@Bluecloudprod]

I fail to see anything negative in this man. I've literally have watched dozens of hours of him. Respectful, direct, knowledgeable... And for free. Thanks Dr. Peterson.

[@1969cmp]

He is very interesting to listen to and how he deals with those who try to trap him or threaten him is cool to watch. Stay calm and be truthful in a wise way.

[@einsteindarwin8756]

I agree but I think people who are civil rights activists see him as being unsympathetic to people of color who have a unique set of problems. He never speaks about that and if he does I’d like to hear that lecture.

[@1969cmp]

@@einsteindarwin8756 ....POC come up from time to time. I do like listening to Thomas Sowell.

[@ericacannon5832]

This man has flaws. And failure to see that is a problem. He is not a god. Yes he helps people. Applaudable. But still his arguments have flaws

[@blacksocrates1]

@@einsteindarwin8756 I disagree. I believe civil rights activist need problems to exist or be far more embellished to justify their crusade. One of the hardest thing to accept in our decadent society is that we are the cause of our problems. I grew up in a black neighbourhood in nyc and saw my cohorts make different decisions that resulted in them ending up in different places. It wasn't racism, oppression, or social injustice; it was a decision to follow a certain life path that leads to a certain destination.

[@jeremiahnoar7504]

1:39 interesting. the goal isn't to get your child to be liked by everyone. the goal is to set them up so that everyone WANTS them around. There a subtle difference between being liked and being wanted, but it's an important difference.

[@charlespartrick528]

I didn't raise my children that way. I raised them to learn about as many things as they could and to keep learning for the rest of their life and not to worry about what other people think about them.

[@jeremiahnoar7504]

@@charlespartrick528 it’s good to instill a desire to learn everything in your kids. Does everybody want your kids around?

[@charlespartrick528]

@@jeremiahnoar7504 They're adults now and have lots of friends. Many who they have known since elementary school.

[@jeremiahnoar7504]

@@charlespartrick528 wonderful news! It sounds like you (even if you didn’t know at the time) took Dr. Peterson’s great advice of “ raising your children in a way where people want to be around them”. I paraphrased but it’s rule 4 in his book. I wish my parents raised me with that in mind.

[@charlespartrick528]

@@jeremiahnoar7504 I didn't take his advice. I raise my children long before youtube, facebook, etc were around. I raised them to be moral, unbiased and respect others. Had nothing to do with wanting them to be liked. I wanted them to be conscious of their actions and choices.

[@SML783]

I was cleaning my house while listening to this, I had to sit down and take notes.

[@TheSunxy]

Always hahaha

[@MEDIAJUNKIEZS]

“And so you can call a plumber. And hooray for that” lol

[@EnraEnerato]

Yeah not that easy in Germany as of now, you can get a date set, serval months from now. Why that is is a whole other can of worms I really don't want to open up.

[@timmorris1432]

@@EnraEnerato What caused a shortage of plumbers over there?

[@EnraEnerato]

@@timmorris1432 It's been many things that lead to this in short: 1. For years dual vocational aprenticeships in craft professions were badly paid 2. Said professions were looked down on, by many people 3. The boomers retire, there are not as many young people to fill jobs 4. -> 3.lead to companies suddenly competing over the availble people entering the job market (usually by higher salaries etc.) 5. -> 1. & 2. lead to many of the freshly educated to pursue carrier options by studying exept for the fields of: education (teachers i.e.), kindergarden personell, etc. This made 3. & 4. even more severe 6. Germany has the largest low wage sector in Europe which made 1. a problem in first place an lead to the other points and still is a thing which makes a lot of jobs highly unatractive. Eventhough plumbers and other craft professions now ask for prices which are really expensive, they still fight with 2. , 4. & 5.

[@jeffreymedeiros6253]

Also Germany has gone anti-man. They support all kinds of leftist ideologies and have eviscerated the male. Plumbers is nearly a 100% male driven vertical. With so many beta males in Germany the jobs that men fulfill are hurt.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

@@jeffreymedeiros6253 Just picking up on something you said about plumbers in Germany... and "beta males" in Germany... If a significant portion of those plumbers (or any other trade) are composed of "beta males", then they have less drive to make it to the top, by working massive hours. Thus, it TAKES more of them to accomplish the same amount of work. BTW, I'm not criticizing "beta males" in ANY way. It seems to me that one definition of "beta male" is a man who does ENOUGH to satisfy his own needs... but does NOT have the "drive to succeed" (also known as AMBITION) which so many people characterize as being an "alpha male".

[@kristinar.6600]

Peterson is a voice for many people.

[@BorniRich]

Isa women too. You’re just overly sensitive

[@arneandersen5891]

Isa You have failed to make a point...

[@arneandersen5891]

Isa Anything. You said Daniel proved your point. What point might that be?

[@arneandersen5891]

Isa Let me spell it out to you, then; Peterson appeals to many women, but they tend to be intelligent and not an arrogant bitch speaking on behalf of an entire gender.

[@garylake8654]

@Isa I dont know of any women who do not appreciate Peterson, I know a lot of women, but there again, I must admit I do not move in the dark corridors of cultural Marxism

[@Shiftysnowdog]

"What is it about me that allows that person to make my life miserable?" Really blew my frickin nips off. I've been trying to take responsibility and hold myself accountable for the things that happen to me, as opposed to becoming a victim of circumstance, and that quote just opened my eyes to all the ways I take other peoples actions as a personal slight. Thank you JP.

[@MrSmith-ve6yo]

It's been two years. Were doctors able to reattach your nips or has it been a nipless existence?

[@mc-rn8ro]

But then, how to you keep from taking on everyone else’s emotional baggage? I agree that there’s some amount of responsibility we need to take regarding how we’re perceived; however, that can become a slippery slope of “everything is my fault all the time; and if I’m being mistreated, I’m more at fault than my abuser” So how do we balance personal responsibility with not over-burdening ourselves?

[@Sockdarner007]

I actually love that guy. I’m so glad he’s alive and somewhere in the world right now , Sharing solutions to this awful terrible beautiful puzzle of human existence

[@ExistentialWill]

He's making you more sick though, and dependent on him in turn. Read up on Nietzsche's Ascetic Priest because Peterson is precisely an Ascetic Priest: "He brings ointments and balms with him, of course; but first he has to wound so that he can be the doctor; and whilst he soothes the pain caused by the wound, he poisons the wound at the same time."

[@Graeme_Lastname]

You believe him?

[@Eddie_of_the_A_Is_A_Gang]

@@ExistentialWill How does he hurt you? I guess if you were unaware of the ideas and phenomenon that he describes and lived blissfully ignorant he might. But Peterson precisely points out the issues and how you can fix him for yourself. He precisely want people to be more independent, self aware, self sovereign and to empower themselves through their understanding of their existence and how and why they may be in pain. That's his job as a psychologist.

[@mytruepower2]

4:52 Yes. This was always my issue. My basic, foundational dreams, desires and interests have always been at such odds with the popular ones, that to "get along," I would need to just embrace self-loathing and become what I hate. I'm not willing to do that, as long as there's any other viable alternative. Learning to smile, however, learning to talk politely and work together with others, and treat others morally... All of that *was* desirable, so my current job is pretty basic and anti-social, but the people at work enjoy seeing me in the halls. They have nothing to talk to me about, but I make myself a good workplace decoration, while, of course, doing my job. Often, that's enough.

[@chrisp2481]

mytruepower2 that part made me know i needed to share this

[@juseageproductionz]

thanks for putting that into words.. I often struggle with explaining that without it almost being a book on it's own , who'd of thought a paragraph would of done LOL (yes I'm Laughing at me)

[@jasonwest3283]

Yes, YES! (I guess I'm the 'yes' man)

[@nicholasturchiano1762]

Jordan has brought so much knowledge and thoughts to my life. As a curious being, I am forever indebted to him.

[@simev500]

(5:00) The sense of resentment toward your own group is a built-in gauge of how one is sacrificing too much for the group to the detriment of the self. Quite insightful and so often overlooked.

[@civichonda23]

Thank you for sharing this message. Jordan B. Peterson is one of the most interesting person... very intelligent and willing to share his gifts.

[@astrogoat]

7:19 "Anytime anything is working you should just be amazed by it." Oh how true that is.

[@ExistentialWill]

Nope

[@Eddie_of_the_A_Is_A_Gang]

@@ExistentialWill Yes, if you think about it. Something works only because for billions of years, every event happened until it led to that point and it worked in your favor. Causality.

[@Thomassina1]

9:40 onward is fantastic advice for those feeling lost, overwhelmed, wondering why you're at this place in life and what to do about it. The genius in his lectures is that he astutely articulates into precise words, the exact feelings and responses you've experienced. He then categorizes them in a sequential and logical manner to understand it more clearly ie., from the outside looking in. This acknowledgement alone can set a person free, someone 'out there' finally gets it and most importantly, gets you. You're not alone.

[@samanthaworkman-fenn8754]

L M very well said . I agree with you 👍

[@GeneralKaleRan]

These thumbnails need to chill XD

[@jacobclark2409]

You’re talking about the channel named “TheArchangel911”

[@russianbot4418]

Just load up with the various ad blocker apps. I have the YT one plus Adblock pro and Ublock and I see no ads for anything anywhere ever! In fact the combined blocked ads count just for this page is 35 and it's not uncommon to hit some of the worst channels and see those counts well ast 100 yet I see zero of them!!

[@jacobclark2409]

Russian Bot 441 he’s talking about the thumbnails not ads

[@russianbot4418]

@@jacobclark2409 What thumbnails? I just see the video playing and nothing else.

[@jacobclark2409]

Russian Bot 441 Of the queen from the Alice in wonderland movie that came out back in 2010, do you not know what thumbnails are? He’s talking about the thumbnails the uploaded of this channels puts on his videos

[@ubergeraldine]

The Red Queen (Looking Glass) has been confused with the Queen of Hearts (Wonderland) and they are quite different! The Queen Hearts as Lewis wrote her and commented on her " I pictured to myself the Queen of Hearts as a sort of embodiment of ungovernable passion - a blind and aimless Fury...The Red Queen I pictured as a Fury, but of another type; her passion must be cold and calm - she must be formal and strict, yet not unkindly; pedantic to the 10th degree, the concentrated essence of all governesses!" As an example - take Princess Diana as the Queen Hearts and Theresa May as the Red Queen. The unmentioned White Queen is even more significant in today's climate - she turns into a sheep!

[@luciferbob]

and of course the running in place can be understood as social reality need to be continually reproduce. and ty for pointing out the differences between the books that JP is very loosely pulling from.

[@BGdroopy]

You are a gem

[@stvbrsn]

Beadybonce yeah, but none of it means a damn thing, seeing as we only exist as figments of the Red King’s dreams.

[@deborahrose8621]

I wish it wasn't over a year since this post. I'd love to hear more of what you have to say.

[@mr.wonder8168]

I was thinking of the book, simplification

[@peglegwally]

Gosh this was good. It drives me crazy that there are people out there who think mr Peterson is a bad person. He is brilliant. And he cares so much. Thank you mr. Peterson

[@jocoder-williams3848]

I admire this man so much He really makes me laugh every time he states “ It’s not news folks!”

[@mrmurpvw]

Very smooth camerawork. No SWOT (subject walk off transition). I've years of experience in live camera work, and this operator is quite impressive. It takes a lot of confidence to roll with such a tight zoom when your subject is as flighty and animated as Jordan. I love to nitpick camerawork, but I'd be hard pressed to offer a critique of this operator.

[@bennichols561]

I wouldn't have noticed. God I love learning something from a pro

[@supertramp6011]

Interesting,as someone who knows almost nothing of this subject. I feel slightly more intelligent than I did before reading your comment,thanks for that!👌

[@spikeep6141]

Once upon a time In a nursery rhyme There was a castle with a King Hiding in a wing 'Cause he never went to school to learn a single thing He had scepters and swords And a parliament of lords But on the inside he was sad Egad! Because he never had a wisdom for numbers A wisdom for words Though his crown was quite immense His brain was smaller that a bird's So the Queen of the Nation Made a Royal Proclamation "To the Missus and the Messers The more or lessers Bring me all the land's professors" Then she went to the hair dressers And they came from the east And they came from the south From each college they poured knowledge From their brains into his mouth But the king couldn't learn So each professor met their fate For the queen had their heads removed And placed upon the gate And on that date I state their wives all got a note Their mate was now the late-great But then suddenly one day A stranger started in to sing He said "I'm the dirty rascal And I'm here to teach the king" And the queen clutched her jewels For she hated royal fools But this fool had some rules They really ought to teach in schools Like you'll be a happy king If you enjoy the things you've got You should never try to be The kind of person that you're not So they sang and they laughed For the king had found a friend And they ran onto a rainbow for The story's perfect end So the moral is you mustn't let The outside be the guide For it's not so cut and dried Well unless it's Dr. Jekyll Then you better hide Petrified No, The Truth can't be denied As I now have testified All that really counts and matters Is the special stuff inside

[@TruffleSeeker54]

Brilliant poem, I loved it

[@steveoh9025]

very good. who wrote that?

[@igorst.georgesbutler6783]

@@steveoh9025 It initially occurred to me that this sounds like AI art imitasting life looking not to flatter but perhaps to flatten. Looking at EPsplike's uploads did nothing to dispell this...quite the contrary.

[@JuanIII]

"AI art imitasting life looking not to flatter but perhaps to flatten. " I've the notion that you spend a great deal of time in fear. And I'd say anyone who wrote that is not artificial nor imitating and likely alive regardless if their context is different. Fear can be a waste of an open mind.

[@JuanIII]

@R J Spade

[@Calidore1]

Extraordinarily perceptive and talented man.

[@owensthilaire8189]

The problem is that this man, in Canada is very much the exception rather than the rule. Just look at the entire Liberal party.

[@nicholasvanlierde2546]

It's no coincidence Jordan Peterson is Canadian. Because Canadian society needs him. Other societies do not have the same emasculating educational systems. We know we have to fight for success, not ask nicely

[@mrknarf4438]

Unfortunately he's an exception everywhere. But he is teaching many, and that's a blessing, for few, perhaps none will become like him, but something will stick

[@jasonswiatkowski9127]

He would be exceptional in any country!

[@Cynnas]

The problem is that we're expected to be in one party or another (left or right) when the majority of people are closer to center.

[@psesolarscott]

@@Cynnas Thank you

[@wesleywiseman2112]

I just absolutely love the way you take the time and patience to break down important topics to life and well being for students you are a blessing and a light for so many looking for direction your amazing my friend

[@gaz9556]

I want to face my past but it's too difficult and the more time that passes the harder it gets, it's unbelievably difficult right now

[@MrDani3lsan]

The past can be very hurtful and difficult. As a friend told me, the past doesnt always make sense, and you cannot put it in place. Let the feelings come, accept them and let them flow by as a movie. And yes, not as easy as it sounds, it takes practice. But once you can let the emotions go, and not control the feeling (just your action), it'll help you release.

[@davidharrison1860]

Thank you, Jordan. I need to listen to this many times.

[@theginganinjaofficial]

I have watched a lot of Peterson's videos, but this is the first one I was really in awe with. Some of the connections that were made and how he got them, were just amazing.

[@eatassdaily5314]

The things I’d do to have a 30 minute phone call with this man. Honestly.

[@MARSTVCHANNEL]

Good Lord, he's on a roll here! I'm not sure what he's on but it definitely takes him to a higher level of consciousness.

[@MARSTVCHANNEL]

"Life's a piece of sh!t if you look at it, but always look on the bright side of it." Monty Python's Flying Circus

[@ellkir1521]

I'm a multi tasker and find it incredibly hard to multi task when this man speaks. Articulate and thought provoking.

[@orphia6479]

13:25 "they need to update their moral model of the world or they end up in sth closely approximating Hell". Absolutely, and this is brilliantly put. That's how we know we're moral creatures, not merely animals: any time cruelty/evil occurs, it leaves us in a state of shock. Any animal reacts instinctively, and can't worry about moral questions.

[@chrisallum9044]

animals have morals. ours are merely more complex. Also..we are animals.

[@halfglassfull]

@@chrisallum9044 "morals" is a human construct. Who the hell really knows what an elephant is thinking....

[@florentchif4551]

@@halfglassfull not saying this is correct or not but when you see a species facing a lion to save another species from death or when you see all the social aspects (that can't go with a moral contract) of animals you are really puzzled on the question

[@ubergeraldine]

Actually I have seen male lions in the bush with TB being carefully liked after by a sibling until death. So is this only instinct and could you say caring/reacting to the distress of another human is then just instinct (preserving the species)? Is even making a considered judgement on the viability of a life to save just instinct in disguise? And where morality comes in is this founded in instinct of preservation? I'd love Profersor Pterso to comment on the Aghori cult in India - these are people who have made a conscious decision to live in the burning grounds amongst corpses and are known to eat off the dead. Because they do not acknowledge any separation between matter and divine they demonstrate this by some pretty out there acts by western moral standards. However, as is explained so well here and from a different culture, they blow they are the Whistleblowers on matter... and we have to choose what matters to survive in the illusion! kzbin.info/www/bejne/q565i2ugm5pjqNU

[@relight6931]

@@halfglassfull We can't know however nice example you've taken here, a herd animal. As a member of said herd elephants must accrue some social skills that they are thought by their mothers. Basically even though it would be silly to think they have morals, they do have basic biology manifestation of morals through social skills they learn from parents. What does it look like if they go against it? It might mean playing rough, mating while not being the alpha, unwarranted aggression. What is a possible consequence, being outcast of the herd, close to death sentence in the wild.. Morals have biological and evolutionary root. They were not invented by religion or homo sapiens.

[@tobystewart4403]

"We all get crushed and molded by the tyrannical forces of social convention. But... at least in principle, the benefit is worth the cost." "The default condition of things is, not only do they not work very well, they get worse and worse over time, all by themselves. So, anytime anything is working, you should just be amazed." lol. Gotta love the jords.

[@deborahrose8621]

That struck me as awesome.

[@futbolLFC]

This is very profound, but imagine he was just talking about erectile dysfunction.

[@natenate2280]

Stefan Korica thats hilarious

[@truthwarrior122]

Don't go Watership Down the rabbit hole.

[@raymeester7883]

That's one creepy rabbit hole.

[@jacobclark2409]

What if I already came out of the rabbit hole?

[@kevalan1042]

Go down but don't zorn out.

[@michaelnice93]

The blood!

[@mumblebee9560]

Down the rabbit hole is hell which I feel like I am in right now!

[@Echoday2day]

Its so interesting to be learning ecology and this springs up in my textbook. And it was only months ago that I heard of this by JP first. Evolutionary arms race- or 'red queen theory/ hypothesis' - “we have to run as fast as we can to stay in the same place”. So this is why all species are different and have adaptations to avoid being eaten/ dying/ or essentially being 'outdone' by better competing species. What he says has thought and meaning behind it. Don't take what he says for granted- it might help you- even if its 1% at that time.

[@drwhite1116]

My life has changed since I have come across Jordan’s work. Thank you JP for sharing your knowledge and understanding to the world.

[@W45P.]

I read it says " You have to run twice as fast in order to get anywhere..." always two steps ahead. Evolution.. rabbit children learns to run faster than their parents cos the foxs children is doing the same.

[@patrickyoung6460]

Nifly Moth Not quite, the rabbit only needs to run faster than his siblings, so the fox doesn’t get him

[@cheeck6230]

Do emotional litracy and resource therapy. Emotional litracy is fleshing out emotions from the present day which has roots(-Ross Rosenberg) which extend into the past and we do not need to remember the actual memory we just need to remember and identify our own emotions. -Richard Grannon.

[@superslyko123]

Close but no cigar. Be very careful. You're on the right path but you need to do some more review. ;-)

[@halfglassfull]

@@superslyko123 please explain

[@superslyko123]

@@halfglassfull Before you spend any $$$, review your own experience. These folks can give you the hints to start you on your path, but that analysis & the healing is up to YOU.

[@williammcarthur1966]

dude how amazing is richard grannon. he's brilliant.

[@superslyko123]

@@williammcarthur1966 I am not a fan. His ideas are great for those suffering from CPTSD, but he is more interested in exploiting those that are increadibly vulnerable and making a buck.

[@burtvincent1278]

Great mind and Jordan is a guiding light for many. I am fortunate to be happy most all of the time and free from torment. The one problem I do have is associating with those who are psychologically tormented. They enjoy it so much they seem to want to share it with everyone else.

[@MrManueleh]

The Red Queen wasn't down the rabbit hole. The Red Queen was through the looking glass. When Alice went down the rabbit hole she changed size and evryone else remained the same. Through the looking glass Alice remained the same size and everything around her changed.

[@derflitermouse8976]

Technically you are correct but what is your point other than being a know-it-all? Are you saying his presentation is substantively incorrect?

[@a.t.125]

@@derflitermouse8976 he is pointing out a small mistake in the presentation as a responsible free thinker should. Do you have a point, or did you just want to throw in some childish name calling (know-it-all), and a Kathy Newman style assumption (so are you saying...)?

[@graysonharris540]

@@a.t.125 Both of you could stand to be a little calmer. He has a point, which is that the mistake doesn't change the theme or direction of the lecture whatsoever. It's still interesting, and i noticed it as well, but we don't need to fight about it. The first guy was just stating a correction.

[@derflitermouse8976]

@@a.t.125 maybe you can share an actual point? Or maybe you were free thinking out loud? Sort of like someone with tourette's syndrome of the keyboard...

[@a.t.125]

@@graysonharris540 nobody made the claim that the mistake changes the theme or direction of the lecture except for the accuser. So there was no point, just an empty accusation... and that's my point.

[@marlenemeek9030]

Thank you for clarifying so much. You truly are a healing voice in this world and I know several people, well, two young men and myself, who have benefitted alot from listening to your talks. You do make a positive difference.

[@stiqula]

God this is so true . . . People who are in "hell" don't want to accept it. I tried to get a dear friend of mine to write out where he was in his life, and he couldn't do it. He refused to do it. Even though he knew it could help him... It's tragic. He would rather stay adrift in chaos than accept something negative and specific that could give him a framework--a roadmap to improve his life . . . He grew up without a father. I wonder how related these two things are.

[@andrewmccombs7347]

KeyBOaRd PrObLeMS. MUCH apolOGIeS. TrY TEllinG that to A MAN THROWN In PRISON FOR LIfe for a cRiME hE Didn't Commit... iN North Korea. Try teLling ThAT To a mAN ShOT iN the HEad wHO CAN nO LoNgEr use a gOod percentage Of hiS boDY aNd whose mINd No LONGER Works PropeRlY DUe TO BRAIn damage fRom the bULlet. TRY TelliNG ThaT TO A SeVerELY DISablEd PerSON... OR A dIsAblEd perSON in geNERal. TRy teLLing thaT tO a cHILD WHO HAS JUSt BEEn DIAgnOSED WITH TErmiNal CANCER. try teLLing THAT To AN EXTRemELy IMPOVERISHED pERSON in A Third WORLD COUNTRY WHO HAS NO FAMILY AND IS CAst out of society for some superficial thing he Can't control. It's only "true" for those who can manage in one way or another to conform themselves to the greater social pattern which supports their efforts. Of course, you could say that in such a case, someone should become as self-sufficient as possible, but there are a million and one reasons why this is not possible for many people. Without the social structure, most people would experience intense suffering and most likely a very early death. Yet even within the social structure, many people just cannot keep up. To call any of this type of do-it-yourself thinking profound wisdom is to fail to notice the plain and obvious fact that most people don't make it, especially the vast majority of people who can't for one reason or another "play the game" and fit themselves into the greater system somehow. The worLd is... UNFair. PEopLE JusT toTallY LoSe MUCH OF THE TIME, AND THEY DON'T HAVE much control OF ThE Reasons WHy... Because The reaSons are mUCh LArGer tHAn their abilITY To MANAgE THem. Nearly all philosophies and religions suffer from a "survivorship bias" problem. You're told how you need to live to be successful or wise or Godly, and then you're told that if you don't do this list of chores, you're doomed, and that it's all your fault if you wind up that way. THEn, you'Re OFfeRED all these fINE EXampleS of people who SeEm to have made it woRK, and they say "Hey, we did it. So can (should) you!" fIRST QUESTION ONE NEEDs To ASk OneseLF IS... DiD You? DID you ReaLLY? Are YOU sURE IT's nOT you THAt IS aT Fault, AND YOUR deNial to aDMIT iT coMPels YOU To castiGATE Others (YOUR deAr FRIEnD, perhaps?) bEcaUSE ThEir failURe tO THrive REMinds you too MUCH OF YOUR OWN MORTaLity, and how aCTUALLY, YOu'RE nO betteR off thAn him/her iN THe end? In facT, it is POssiBLE that yOU ARE FAR WorSe off, seeiNG AS HOW yoUR "RUnNING" HAS MAde you STUbbORNLY BLInd to the truth of youR OWN inherent poverty? Perhaps your deAR FRIEND ISN'T AS IMPOVERISHED AS YOU THINK. pERHAPS HE/SHE IS JUST MORE HONEST THAN You ARE. pERHaps hE COUld not writE it down because the WeiGHT Of wHAt he Is experIENCING is JUST TOO BewiLDERINg, AND YOU sITTING THERE JUDGING HIM LIKE A smug paRENT TO A CHILd HAS CONFused and isolated him even more to THE POiNT where he cannot find A WOrd Clear ENOugH THat you woulD BOTHEr To take any existEntial pains to understaND. maTTHEW 7:1-5 "1Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." HypocRISY. seE TO it ThAt YOu sIT noT In The CoMpanY Of hyPOCRitEs. For more ON THis, SEE MatTHEW 23. aRE You juST being A Good fRIEnD AnD OffeRing sage wisdom? Or are yOu LIKE THE SCRibeS AND The PHARisees? WHen hell trulY ComEs, it MaY weLl BE YOU WHO SUFFERS THE FLAMES, AND YOUR FRIEND WHO IS SPARED. tHE PARABLE OF LAZARus and the rich man appLIes here. fROM WhaT i'Ve sEEN iN very ReceNT JORDaN PETerSOn VIDEOS, i believe he himself might be realiziNG hIs oWN HypOCRISY AND his OWN MISUNDERStANdings oF GoD aNd reliGioN, eSPEcialLy the gOSpel OF CHRIST. sO DON'T taKE HIS PAST ADVICE as GOspEl TrutH. iT IS noT. hE IS STIll vEry confUsED AbOut The moSt IMPORTANT isSueS... all which transCEnD and FaR OUTWEigH this idEA oF "clean your roOM". tHAT's NOt a sOLution. thaT'S jUst condescension.

[@simev500]

Looking at the ability to communicate properly with other fellow beings as a survival tool is quite an insight at a very fundamental level.

[@4Stanzas]

"Individuality is fine, as long as we all do it together." - Major Frank Burns (M*A*S*H)

[@brettb9194]

I think he wrote the Canadian handbook for higher education.

[@greenline720]

This is the man compared to Red Skull? *claps in Heath Ledger's Joker * Few people I know are this brilliant in their ability to think and reason with the tough questions that people face.

[@Leftists_are_Losers]

I’m not sure why he addresses “The Chaos Problem”. If life is suffering, if we need to run as fast as we can just to stay in the same place, isn’t chaos simply a part of life ? If chaos is part of life, how is it a “problem”?

[@mr.fizzle6318]

Off Topic, But Whatever: While I watched this in my periphery, I noticed that his hand expressions lagged behind his words by 1/4 of a second, maybe 1/2 of a second at most. It's very interesting that Jordan slowly goes from creating sentences in his head, to speaking to whomever, and then motioning with his hands.

[@9an13l]

'' while I watched this in my periphery'' we all are looking for validation, but typing clumsily pretentious sentences into the KZbin comment section won't give you that pleasure, or at least it will do so only temporarily...

[@mr.fizzle6318]

@@9an13l I just found it interesting, but whatever.

[@timothylanger2999]

@@9an13l Well ...he could have been watching it in his peripheral vision. I often have youtube running while I am performing other tasks. Perhaps it was useless to mention, and I agree, it is a bad idea to seek validation on the internet, but I'm not so sure he was.

[@geoffreylynnegambrelljr.4132]

For some, they were conceived in that discription of chaos, and they were still born somehow. Those people are the ones who we find to be particularly weird because, they experience life as if they are fully capable of anything, (others see it as a light) and a person who walks around with that potential is percieved as a unstable force of destruction. We think that because, we see that if we ourselves carried that Spirit of capability then, we would fall to ruin trying to maintain the boundaries between what we understand as real, and what we perceive as real in our mind. Follow me so far?

[@isaacneel7880]

Though his point is accurate, the quote 'In my kingdom, you have to run as fast as you can just to stay in the same place,' is from Through the Looking Glass. Alice in Wonderland, the book where Alice goes down the rabbit hole, plays with reality in terms of size i.e. Alice is constantly growing larger and smaller. Through the Looking Glass, wherein Alice quite literally steps through a looking glass into a reflection of the world, plays with reality in terms of reflection i.e. you have to run as fast as you can just to stay in the same place, the chess board that was in the room is reflected, but the chess-people are alive, including the red and white queens.

[@evildustmite25]

both stories take place in alice's dreams, you ever try running in a dream, it's very difficult to get anywhere.

[@bartacomuskidd775]

"You can tell you are sacrificing too much to the group, because you become resentful of other people" can we have that put into riot spray?

[@hzuiel]

I have to question myself why I spend time listening to anything other than JB Peterson when I listen to one of his lectures.

[@1SpudderR]

By the time your child is four....they have been told “No” thousands of times.......Now that is Cultural (Product, Producing) conditioning......... How about repeating that thousands of times, but instead use with “YES” - Now that is personal empowerment conditioning!

[@hillmanhung3846]

Say yes everytime your child wants something, and you might have a very large stack of new toys sitting in the storeroom and more incoming

[@mirjanazivkovic3687]

Starting a new day Trying to runaway From this broken place So come come to Wonderland Down to the rabbit hole you will see her there And you will hear her say In my kingdom You will have to run as fast as you can Just to stay in the same place...

[@paulad.4578]

❤ Jordan Peterson. He is able to put complex philosophical and psychological ideas in a context that helps people. We need more people like him in this world.

[@jasonscroggins5093]

God is using this man in such a mighty Way for teaching those who shall play a huge role in establishing the Kingdom of God on earth! Even now! Praise the Most High God who raises up kingdoms and takes them down! Amen!

[@KalonOrdona2]

You made a good title! Nice job! Respect

[@MARSTVCHANNEL]

We're all full of sh!t. The trick is to keep a tight sphincter so that it doesn't hit the fan!

[@jeffreykeith6494]

He's speaking my life. I'm now trying to do that. Let's see.

[@davieduckett]

I think I heard this exact speech from this crazy homeless dude standing on the sidewalk

[@josephhunter8652]

"Now she has gone into the substructure of being. " oh god😂 You learn something new everyday

[@MrJamesC]

That's just archetypal subtext

[@siryoucantdothat9743]

The grip of being powerless child living without autonomy because i feared punishment or feared the counter force of my will so i feel like i lived my whole years with a knot in my will because of the fear of the chaos that my will may cause when its exercised so i had to bend too much I didn’t feel i was real because I didn’t live the totality of myself i lived fragmented in the shadows or the corners because i felt i was devalued and abandoned the pain of these emotions is too powerful and painful to forget it has a grip on me till this day

[@Asgardos08]

This vid should be mandatory for all politicians...

[@seldonwright4345]

Minds would explode in 3 2 1..

[@SocialHigh]

Dynamics DEMANDS that we fail in order to perpetuate the evolutionary process. Challenging tradition is hardwired into us but our fear of change and creating discomfort conflicts with our nature. We pray to the keeper of knowledge and the deliverer of constants. Physics is what we observe but change is what physics seeks for the good and betterment of all. In the midst of this we seek value and purpose endorsed by acceptance from our 'learned' peers. This period is a self leveling passage as we search for malignant growths. Cutting them out takes deep consideration, courage and action. Thanks for yet another great journey of the mind.

[@MadKingOfMadaya]

*_Jordan ”and (add anything) is mother nature” Peterson_*

[@evildustmite25]

jordan pulled a disney and got both alice books mixed up, maybe he needs to re-read them. if he even read them at all.

[@BrotherTree1]

One of my favourites from him, ever.

[@clivegoodman16]

'Alice in Wonderland" has the Queen of Hearts (from a pack of cards). It is "Alice through the Looking Glass" which has the Red Queen (from chess).

[@DMONEY7720]

Never seen a Red Queen in a Chess Set.

[@thatsintreeguing]

@@DMONEY7720 The black pieces are represented in red in many sets, if you google image 19th century chess set it seems like that actually used to be more commonplace. They are red in my own set

[@DMONEY7720]

@@thatsintreeguing never seen a single red chess piece.

[@clivegoodman16]

@@DMONEY7720 . In some chess sets, instead of white and black pieces, you have white and red pieces.

[@clivegoodman16]

@@DMONEY7720. I posses a chess set in which the pieces are white and red. I have made a photo of it, but I don't know how to transmit this photo into a KZbin comment.

[@JBeeship]

When he said something can happen to you at a young age and you carry it with you. I really understood that. When i was two years old my mom walked out on my dad while he was at work. Leaving my brother and I behind. I am 30 now and I still wonder if that has screwed up my entire life sometimes. It caused me lots of issues, a lot of therapy. Even though I barley remember it happening i wonder if I will ever get over the trauma her actions caused. Its frightening to think that your life and your issues can so easily be governed by those around you, however for all you who have kids. Do right by them.

[@arjonrivera8271]

@9:00 - 9:21 When he says "people want themselves in the fog" - definitely a spot-on observation!

[@longWriter]

@4:57 A long, long time ago, the word "Iusticia" meant "the proper balancing of the needs of the individual with the needs of the community", and it was considered a cardinal virtue. The word "iusticia" eventually became the english word "justice", which we mean "fair reward and/or punishment for individuals' actions and intention". Really, those are two different virtues, but both are important.

[@greggeverman5578]

Who else gets that fuzzy feeling in their face when watching Peterson vids? ...Always feeling like you’re just a little bit smarter.

[@SuzPratt11]

Past Authoring is in alignment with LifeCharting, a Steiner Concept. In the last year, I found myself doing a response video when Chant-A-Lot slammed Jordan 🙏🏻. Innerstanding way more after this beautiful witness of truth. Yesterday Philosophy Of Freedom channel created the noble flow of idea/phraseology/diverse ness of topic that is shared by Jordan Peterson & Rudolf Steiner. I vibes into Rudolf in 2005, vibed into this video 2/10/19. Admired Jordan since online journey advanced to 2nd level (2016 to present). Journey began 8/31/2014 💯👏🏼🌏

[@naikou1633]

20 seconds in and my Alice in Wonderland fan brain is yelling, "The Red Queen isn't in Wonderland! You're confusing the Red Queen with the Queen of Hearts!"

[@surplusdivision2461]

Actually there was no Red Queen in Alice in wonderland. The red queen is from through the looking glass. The Queen of hearts said off with their heads, the red queen says you have to keep running as fast as you can just to stay in the same spot.

[@evildustmite25]

he must work for disney, their movie also combined stuff from both books

[@whabshah657]

Heaven is all about getting high and listening to jordon peterson on a continous loop

[@twotreasurehunters]

I may not know where I am, but I'm never lost. I have explained to to my kids. Lost is not just a state of mind but also not knowing how to get home, where ever that may be at the moment. A person who can not know where they are but not be lost means they have ways to navigate thru the unknown that allows confidence to know they can get back to a safe and known location. Extrapolate this from traveling to life's journey and it's unknowns.

[@kamilkarnale3585]

Amazing!!👍👌👏👏👏

[@ScrimHyphen]

Just found this channel. Wish I'd found it earlier. Keep up the good work

[@broadbandtogod]

You got work to do ^ ^ welcome

[@ScrimHyphen]

@@ridethelapras I have. I've been a listener/reader of his for a while now. I even saw him talk last week. Locked eyes with the man. I just meant like this channels choice of clips.

[@MGTOWPsyche]

I prefer living free inside tyranny serving God and sacrificing for God and as a by product I end up serving others indirectly without being resentful. Those who rebel God end up sacrificing for others or sacrificing for false idols that leave you resentful and empty in the end.

[@scartissuefilms]

I think a lot of people are rediscovering this essential truth.

[@drewsykes8231]

minister of entropy 👌

[@angrytedtalks]

Wow, it's almost as though individual responsibility and societal responsibility have to be balanced. Who would have thought that a social species like humans would require hierarchy and equally require personal responsibility to that hierarchy and their individuality.

[@SailorGreenTea]

Order may be out of control, in Canada.

[@jerrygraslie2023]

Beyond brilliant, so thankful for you Jordan

[@simev500]

Ruminating is being stuck in the past, and it’s terrifying.

[@peterlloyd5285]

This particular talk by JBP is brilliant.

[@freequence9885]

The amount of data that comes out of your mouth is tremendous 👏

[@TheMononctattoo]

Thanks a 1000 times..you said my life

[@AnotherFancyUser]

9:38 onwards THIS is the best part and is so accurate.

[@wioletta9408]

If I ever win super Max I would purchase Jordan and keep him just for myself:))))

[@DylanCVlogTV]

The "on read" queen is more like it.

[@chasedagger]

Beholders (from D&D) have a red queen problem.

[@TheBooklyBreakdown]

How so?? Interested to hear more...

[@Mr3DLC]

They define beauty, right? :)

[@Frosty301289]

when he talks about that last bit, i immediately thought of the story a veteran told in VR chat once, the situation was basically that they were operating in a gunship (helicopter) and ground troops were under fire from a building and couldn't retreat, the gunship was not allowed to open fir on that building because there may have been civilists in it when the fight was over, it turned out there really were civilists in that building, situations like these are pure hell, i cant imagine how it must be like

[@Novarcharesk]

That's how Islamists work. Make their bases also centres where civilians will gather. They rely upon, rather successfully, our commitment to protect the innocent so as not to fire upon them. It's disgusting.

[@sahadevnaik9282]

Fine teaching.thanks please.

[@SirChucklenutsTM]

The solution is to take your run to a slow jog and stay away from everyone else

[@krishnamsdhoni]

From what I gathered, people naturally have characteristical inclination which when faced or encountered by certain types of experiences or a variety of them the perception often alters and changes but mostly its dependant on what direction their analytical aspects take when these experiences happens to them adding to their pre residing inclinations. De stabilizing and bringing any clarity beyond their normal reach isn't easy on personal terms. When we speak of culture, the very grounding in which a culture is based upon already sets up an alternate possibility of indoctrination because of it. Because all our reasoning has and will always be confined to the structures we inhabit. Once in a while due to all layers of ice breaking, somebody notices this and finally attempts to take measures to liberate from this direction by bringing another construct based structure which sets a newer binding and limitation all by itself since its really not possible to produce a framework that isn't already existing, the only framework that can be produced into functionable acceptence can either be a dis-aligned one or an aligned one. mean, in the end what decides the quality of individual life is their existence. Its not societal at that point. It infiltrates on a subjective scale. Not just resentment or resistence, even suffering and frustration in many level. Whats the point of a socialising that demands too much and doesn't improvement the quality of individual life? The idea is too miserable. I only become a patriot on certain aspects that concerns about human beings. Not like bashing the other party but simply saying that their idea of total freedom not only produces a newer binding or chain but also affects everyone around indirectly due to its distorted ideology and tendencies that are associated with it Funny, now that you mention maths, there is this uncle of mine, great maths teacher but due to financial conditions, couldn't take the flight, so not a pro. From what I have observed, mathematicians seem to be able to take charge and handle most of their situations themselves because of the area they specialize on. We know maths is an underlying substrate to access reality hence it infiltrates any and every field due to its abstractions. Its just that due to the current educational system, it became too materialistically oriented. If consciousness is oriented, then the abstractions and derivatives could combine and join all fields underlyingly. It leads to creativity. While normal math helps with fixing convenience, the abstract math enhances life. I mean, even if you specialize at one or two fields, the contents and understanding involved and incorporated with it should help in handling all the other aspects of life, including emotions, characteristics, behaviors with community, mental and physical handling etc. Thats where we go straight for the source which is spirituality. You would think indian classical dance or singing or designing mostly the feminine specialize on have existantial relevence, very intense mathmatics and creativity

[@michaelgoldsmith635]

Not to nitpick, but the Red Queen isn't in Alice in Wonderland. That's the Queen of Hearts. The Red Queen doesn't show up until Through The Looking Glass, and is a totally different character.

[@MrDweasel]

I could listen to him all day

[@sixsixsixhellroad7890]

"the default condition of things is that not only do they not work very well they work worse and worse over time all by themselves so anytime anything is working you should just be amazed by it" [Jordan Peterson, Psychologist ... and IT-Expert without being aware of it] (scnr)

[@watermelonlalala]

I once read a book, I think it was called The Annotated Alice, that had theory after theory of what the Red Queen and other characters represented in the Alice books. After I had read about four or five theories, I learned something, not about the Red Queen, but about theories.