The Renault Zoe | Fully Charged

The new Renault Zoe, an electric car for £13,999 on the road.
Many people have asked how far I drove. I had 2 days driving the car, I followed set routes Renault organised and covered between 60-80 miles in the morning, stopped for lunch for one hour and charged the car using their rapid charger, then did a further 80 miles. I never got anywhere near a low battery, the Zoe could easily get past 100 miles on a charge.

[@blxtothis]

Even now, after it’s been years since it launched, the Zoe is the best looking EV that’s on general sale.

[@shaunvstheworld]

And I've just bought one. Feeling quite comforted and assured by this review. Thanks!

[@namelessman6426]

Shaun Bentley hi after 2 years , is it still running good or you sold it ? or whatever just tell your opinion plz

[@NerdOD]

it broke. a lot. only had it for 6 months before having to return it. it wouldn't charge consistently on fast chargers. :(

[@namelessman6426]

+Nerd OD ,, ok thank , i will go for hybrid much better

[@youtubequizzes3726]

Had this car on 24 hour test drive and it was hugely impressive! Ordered ours for December delivery :)

[@gunesfb1907]

KZbin Quizzes And??? :O

[@ElectroSheeps]

Another great little show Robert keep it going, liked it when you jumped at the central locking made me chuckle.

[@zlozlozlo]

I must say, I like that you returned to the original opening sequence. I think it's the best one.

[@ut4uum462]

Zoe - my Dream! Thanks for review

[@fullychargedshow]

Hi there zlozlozlo I don't think the fact that I didn't mention 'Better Place' is part of some covert conspiracy, it's not relevant to this car. The only Renault car that Better Place use is the Fluence, the Zoe is not being used in the scheme. Also, I'm hearing a lot of sad reports about the financial state of better place, I'm not yet convinced it's a plausible business model.

[@stephenbusby3521]

Got mine on order in Diamond black and British gas has just fitted my FREE wall charger! Can't wait to say hello to my Zoe

[@johnbenton4488]

In ten years' time one will wonder what all the fuss was about. Everyone will, or should, have an electric car. Fossil fuel will cost a fortune, because there will be hardly any of it left!

[@johnbenton4488]

My only wish is that I could afford a Tesla P85D. Oh, well. A boy can always dream!

[@johnbenton4488]

Strictly for the petrolhead with more money than sense.

[@johnbenton4488]

Personally, and this is just my opinion, Climate change and fossil fuel use are not connected in any way. Sure, the human race can limit the effects of climate change, just as they can extend the productive life of oil wells. If this is what they desire! Whether we can limit the effects of Climate change without using up all our oil is another matter, and it will take brains far better than mine to think of ways. Solar, wind, wave or whatever renewable ways there are of generating electricity will make our lives much easier if they are allowed to develop fully. But that is in the future, and we have it within ourselves to extend that future. It is up to us.

[@johnbenton4488]

Nothing would surprise me, but where is the money and expertise to combat or at least mitigate these effects? We hear lots about why it's happening, but next-to-nothing about what we do about it.

[@liveletlive8008]

Your statement is a paradox. Actually the more EV's the lesser the demand for fossil fuel, the lower the price per galon and finally the more the supply. That's business 1on1

[@HungryGreeny]

Hurray, oldschool fullycharged is back. Just Robert sitting in the car and talking about episode's subject. Love it.

[@kraenk12]

Really liking the looks. The service is tempting either.

[@gregw4303]

Great video. The range is definately an issue but when it comes down to it, it's cheap as chips. This might spell the end of the petrol supermini haha!

[@philiphibberd3528]

This is a good review and after two 24 hour test drives with a mix of commuting and a shopping trip to use the local Polar charge point. Order now placed and hopefully will take delivery May 2016.

[@gunesfb1907]

Philip Hibberd And how was it??

[@myfirstev8922]

The Renault Zoe is a fantastic car, but I really wish they would sort their mobile app out. Maybe fully charged could investigate why their app is such a flop and why many of the features they boast “pre conditioning” does not work via the app... would love to see an interview with Renault on the matter.

[@toyotaprius79]

I was expecting this! Also, happy that uploads are more frequent again, even more happily that the old theme's back!!

[@maciejtrybilo]

For someone who commutes by car to work every day this would be a good deal. I hope to see some of those in central London soon. It is cleaner than a Prius and doesn't look dorky like the Leaf does.

[@CutterSlade001]

It's beautiful! Look at the hole where the back seatbelt comes out of!

[@NickCohn]

Great to see you again Robert! I'm looking forward to getting your new book.

[@sleekitwan]

Yes, now, 3 years later, we had a shot in this in the UK. We took it on a comparative run, same as a Clio new model from the same dealer. Now, there was just a smidgeon of implication the dealer would prefer us not to buy this car, but rather the Clio. Dealers do make money on servicing, and what would you buy a £600 3-year servicing pack for, on an electric vehicle?! Anyway, having a family settled it for us, the Clio is a bigger class of car, they are not a direct comparison, and so the Zoe wasn't given a fair crack in that regard. I liked it, but my spouse wasn't even interested enough to swap into the driving seat. POINT: it pays to recall, that in a two-car family, the adults may well choose to buy a car in effect, almost as if they were buying in isolation in SOME respects, but as a family in others! Actually quite a complicated purchasing decision-making process? Thus, yes, my spouse chooses a small compact but still family car, but she is keen I get a Volvo.

[@msyin9]

On another note entirely, I hope we are now going to see more videos as the news about EV's new technology for the cars and homes and how they will be "charged" is coming on hot and fast. I have really missed these videos so I am eager to see more. Great program.

[@bgdexter]

Two things about renting the battery: 1) Read the contract. It says Renault HAS TO provide a battery for the entire life span of the car. They may not leave you stranded without a battery as long as the car is usable. 2) A bought battery will degrade as well, so you need to put some money aside if you want to replace it sometime. You may feel like betting on cheaper batteries in the future, but most will opt for the better battery when available at the same price.

[@flitsies]

The price of the car is fine, however the battery rental is the problem, as with the twizzy in the UK the battery rental price is very expensive and restrictive, so even though you rent the battery you are limited to how many miles you can do for your rental fee. The idea is good, but the practice is bad, the twizzy in the UK has not taken off, not because the UK doesn't like the twizzy but because it is a ridiculous price on the rental of the battery. One other thing regarding cost, the price of electricity is going up, each charge may only cost around £1 but for your £1 you only get around 100 miles if that, add the cost of the rental to the cost of the charge, plus the cost of servicing and so on over an average year and there will be very little difference in cost overall, now take into account the resale value of the vehicle, and suddenly this car is mega expensive cos very few people will buy it second hand and set up a rental for the battery.

[@GPlinthon]

Zoe makes a lot of sense as a 2nd car in a family (let alone for companies driving their cars in/around cities...). It has an autonomy ranging from 100 km (worst consumption with full accelerations, top speed, air-conditioning etc.) up to more than 200 km (actually it has 210 km on ''New European Driving Cycle'' which means you could strech it to 250 km if you take hyper care) - i.e. note a 150km autonomy which is decent. It has a top speed of 135 km/hr which is decent for city-suburban use.

[@fullychargedshow]

Hi TearyEyesAnderson, I just want to say that when I made the car swerve that was entirely to show the wonderful traction and responsiveness of the car, another car passing makes no difference, this car is heavier than a standard ICE car, needs a tornado to make it wobble.

[@GPlinthon]

If the 2nd generation Zoe - hopefully having suchgreat looks! - has an average autonomy around 300km, with top speed about 150km with same cost of purchase and batter lease then it will be a HUGE success.

[@StevePotter-G6HOQ]

My current car for what it is is quite economical, a Kia Sorento, and I do approx 25 miles per day commuting, I rarely use it at weekends now as we also have a Tesla Model S. So currently I spend approx £165 a month on fuel and ved. My new Zoe costs including battery rental is less than £200 a month over a 2 year PCP, and with minimal cost to recharge, I get a new car for commuting for the princely sum of £30 a month more than I pay to keep a 10 year old Kia on the road, ooh and I also save £100 on insurance too.

[@Grumpy_old_Boot]

Looks like a well driving little car, nice review. :)

[@rage9one]

Renault finally made a good interior.

[@fullychargedshow]

I appreciate everything you say and I certainly don't mean to do BP down, someone did very specifically ask the Renault people at the Zoe press launch, they stated quite categorically that they are only supplying Fluences for the project. I think there's a lot of skepticism about it because, in same ways like hydrogen, it's seen as the perfect solution for covering greater distances among people who don't drive EV's. Those few of us who do aren't worried about 'range anxiety.'

[@toyotaprius79]

The Zoe in its own right is an EV Champion

[@mbirth]

Quick calculation: An electric car where you own the battery is 10k more expensive than this one where you don't own the battery. The battery is 70 a month. So with those 10k you saved, you can pay the monthly battery costs for almost 143 months. That is almost 12 years! So most probably you won't own the car anymore when the monthly costs ate the 10k saved in the beginning. Plus you'll get a new battery when the capacity drops below 75%. Here in Germany, the "rent"-model is more common.

[@Benedict-01]

One serious addition to this: A huge part of the expenses of a combustion car are created by maintenance, repair and overhaul! A friend of mine just spend another 3500€ on his second turbocharger of his BMW. Here you do not have this need. No timing belt, no oil changing, no sparks, no clutch, no turbocharger etc. If you calculate those real costs together, 80€ is nothing.

[@Ecoenergy]

Hi Alastair I company we had been talking to who supplies our charge points have a basic charger which you can put a CE17 plugtop on, this will suit the Menekes inlet on European built EV's. The company can be found at m2c.ie Renault aproved manufacturer. The basic unit is around €700, however if you want to plug into a 1363 socket you will need an additional wifi controler to allow you to reduce the input current below 13 Amp. You could confirm exact details by contacting them.

[@DanFrederiksen]

The heat pump which is just an aircon that can pump both ways so doesn't cost anymore, doesn't actually provide 3 times the efficiency in all cases. The catch is that the greater the temperature difference the less efficient it is. So the irony is that when it's really cold and you need the heating, a simple heater element is just as good or better. Wiki suggests that typically happens around -18c so it should be more efficient a lot of the time.

[@rawmark]

I wonder if this car may be the one to bring Renault back into the U.S.?

[@fifthgear93]

4:25 Epic watersplash!

[@Sunderas]

I was wrong and you were right"ish". Why "ish"? Cause This car is bigger than the Fiesta. Checked the measures and it is longer and wider... :D Congrats on a nice review. Oh, and welcome to my country. Hope you had a nice stay. :)

[@gasdive]

And... No need to warm it up before driving off, can contact the car by phone and tell it to put the heater or A/C on, no more standing in traffic, scraping ice off the windscreen. No more getting into a freezing or boiling car. These are luxuries that simply aren't available on any petrol car, regardless of what you pay, yet the car is really much cheaper!

[@simonlaraman24]

well well, look at where we are now! It's 2018, The New Nissan Leaf 2018 arrived, The Hyundai Kona is around the corner. Audi/Merc are still fiddling. VW have launched an EGolf (that you can't test drive). Jaguar surprised everyone with the amazing IPace. The Tesla S has spawned the Tesla X and we're all waiting for the 3! (S3X)! Fully Charged have has an amazing event at Silverstone (which I missed as I was off in St Lucia getting married). I hope this video is still here in another 5yrs and we can see where we got :)

[@DanFrederiksen]

Simon my man, I understand your thinking quite well. If you imagine I'm the most knowledgeable in the world about what's possible with EVs and what the components cost, you would not be far off :) 24kWh cells cost 5000$. An AC induction motor suitable for an electric car costs 150$. Power electronics is quite cheap too.

[@addictedtopiano]

Hey Robert! Glad you're back!

[@UNITYN]

At this price, with the Battery rental costs, I think my choice would be a 2nd hand Leaf. They are around £15k now, but without the rental costs on the battery. mileage is around 8k at that price so barely "run in". Still the Zoe is nice looking thing and if you did more miles per month than we would in a 2nd car the numbers may well add up. Thw wifes jazz eats about £40 per month in petrol, returns about 35-40mpg and is used around town.

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

A lot of the interior heat on an ICE car comes from the heat from burning the fuel-- heater cores always have a loop of coolant going through them for this purpose. An electric doesn't have this option, so a heat pump type system is an ideal fit for such cars.

[@CormacMacCormac]

The biggest problem I have with electric cars is not with the cars, but the charging. I live in an apartment, and in fact a very large percentage of the populations lives in rentals, and we don't have any way to charge an electric car. We can't put in a 240 charging station, we mostly don't have garages or even designated parking (where I'm at). But at the same time the people who likely need something like this the most are apt living city dwellers.

[@mthwsnd01]

Great Video!!!

[@TedKidd]

Sharp looking car

[@rainbowsalads]

0-60mph in 8.2 secs ( very good) top speed 84 mph can travel up to 125 miles once fully charged will take only 30 minutes to charge 80%. A standard/overnight charge will take 6 - 8 hours. £3 to fully charge on a standard charge ( 2.4 pence a mile)

[@iKaGe01]

I only spend around 20 pounds once every 3 or so weeks, so that system would not work for me at all. I cover 230-250 miles in that time approx

[@capitalistsamurai]

Great review of ZOE! Thanks!

[@BroganTime]

I remember reading about the Zoe on your Twitter feed Robert. My interest in car remains the same (intrigued), although (*gets out a deckchair*) it could have done with some "questions" in between the cuts. :) Anyway, Renault needs to remember there are those that give names to their cars all by themselves (and not a reworking of "zero emissions"). Be it names like "Betsy" or "Zatanna" (what I'd name the Zoe if I had one) and all the other names including - but not limited to - "F**ker". ;)

[@FFVoyager]

Renault can (and might well) change the terms of the contract, their current (UK) Zoe web page says, when commenting on the £70/month charge - "Terms and conditions including excess mileage charges will apply, prices subject to change." Further they seem to suggest that the buyer will negotiate the duration of the contract, so if you want it for 3 years or 4 they will price it accordingly. What happens when that is up? They retain control of the batteries, you pay £14k for a shell.

[@AlastairArmstrong]

Hey 01eximius, it is about 9 hours with a home wall box (3.3kw). An hour with a type 2 charger (22kw) and at least 80% in 30 mins with Renault fast charger (43kw). That's from memory. Alastair

[@sodepp1]

I am very happy you came back to doing shows about cars, i think you are the best reviewer for electric cars and i think they require a different approach then the petrol cars. First I saw you're episode about the nissan leaf back in 2010 and that made me watch all fully charged episodes.I wonder what do you think about the progress the industry made? I saw the show first in 2010 and before that I never saw a all electric car since then i saw 4 and I've been to a presentation of the volt.

[@MrPlatani]

They wanted to integrate the rear door handles with upright windows but the solution was ergonomically wrong.

[@GPlinthon]

As the car costs around 13,000 euros, i.e. the equivalent of an eqquiped thermic-car, the 70 euros per month cost plus the electricity cost (especially where electricity has a moderate price) is very attractive and falling to half of a thermic car, if one rises to more than 15,000 per year. Still I do believe that the Zoe can be only a 2nd car in a family for city-suburban use. Buying a 13,000euro car and not being able to go out for a weekend to a distance of about 150-200km is quite limiting.

[@bend1483]

Interesting little car Rob. £70 does seem a bit steep considering the 7500 mile per year limit before you start incurring extra charges, granted it is much cheaper that other electric cars but it does largely offset the fuel cost advantage of electric. Especially if you don't drive many miles a year.

[@pvieira91]

Nice video! And thanks for driving EV in Portugal :)

[@FFVoyager]

Your Renault dealer, 2021 - "Yes we'll get a new battery pack for you, but there is a bit of a delay on getting them. Would you be interested in trading up to the SuperZoe?" "No thanks, sort my battery pack as the lease I took out said it would" Several weeks later, cells depleted and car hardly usable...... "We're waiting for the battery, Sir. You do know the new SuperZoe will do 250 miles and can be charged in 15 minutes don't you? We'll give you £1500 for your old Zoe" Ad infinitum.

[@deiz92]

I think it's just a matter of time for the cost of electricity to go up. As more and more people buy electric cars and charge them overnight the electric companies will start charging more overnight (whether they are on cheap night rate or not). As long as the electrical power used to charge it comes from a non fossil fuelled power grid I'd be quite happy to have one.

[@youtubequizzes3726]

+deiz92 1) Rooftop solar 2) Renewable energy will fast become cheaper than coal, ga, nuclear, etc.

[@lmlmd2714]

+deiz92 As home battery storage becomes cheaper (which it will once the batteries of first gen EVs get depleted to ~60-70%, it makes sense for car makers to re-purpose and re-sell the batteries they swap out, rather break them up for re-cyc) then rooftop PV feeding into the battery in the day, stored and re-used for charging the car at night, ready to go in the morning. I imagine serious EV manufacturers will probabaly offer Car and PV Store'n'charge bundle packages, and I imagine energy companies will be in on that.

[@Benedict-01]

true, but around here are charing stations. Once a week you can park your car there, let it charge and you can do your things in town.

[@thewallstreetjournal5675]

The car rental deal is hella smart. It's unrealistic for electric cars to meet the same standard of range for once a month trips.

[@Grumpy_old_Boot]

I've been commuting past a Better Place recharging station in Denmark, and I have never seen anyone enter or leave there ... AFAIK, it's just an expensive blue building. I could be wrong offcourse.

[@zlozlozlo]

3/3 furthermore, I didn't know something needed proved as a viable business model before you paid attention to it. You've done shows on student projects, experimental cars, wild and crazy ideas. Better Place is a business that has customers (extremely happy customers by the way) in two countries. This is what almost killed BP, lack of positive coverage. Everyone has been dumping on them from the beginning, the media, EV manufacturers other than Renault-Nissan.

[@pol1250]

Charging system much better than the leaf( 3 phase charger), Renting batteries is shit, Decoupled breaking is great. It looks good.It is smaller than the Leaf and a bit slower.

[@fullychargedshow]

I've driven the Renault and I'd say it's bigger than a Ka, which I've also driven. I'd still claim it was nearer the size of a Fiesta

[@joshuasmith7369]

To work and back (4.5 miles) a day. In a nissan versa note that I average 36 mpg city at $2.80 a gallon u.s. I fill up once a month unless I go to corpus christi, which is every other month.

[@paulcummings55]

And I am still not sold on not owning the battery, for a couple of reasons. For most middle-class folks, if we have to buy a car and make payments, we really look forward to the day when we complete those payments! I know- you can equate the battery rental as just moving the cost of fuel- but that is just not going to sell to most folks Also, at some point in the future, when you go to sell that Zoe, it is going to be: by the way, you have to sign a battery rental contract as well.

[@bgdexter]

I got the contract from my Renault dealer before buying the Twizy. It defines "life span" simply as the complete time the car is used. And no, Renault do not have to upgrade your battery if a better one is available. I assume they will offer an optional upgrade for a higher rate, but time will tell. I also assume there will be third party alternatives in a few years.

[@hans-christian-nomadic-writer]

Nice review...!

[@zlozlozlo]

From what I heard Zoe has been developed to allow battery switching as well. They just won't say it out loud unless you specifically ask them. (which if you ask me is a low blow from Renault) BP has been trying to get the car for the scheme, while Renault seems to be backing out. BP's model is viable, and I don't think the multi-billion dollar Israel Corporation is going to let them sink.

[@DanFrederiksen]

I don't accept that premise. Yes the 100k$ model S is fast but fast in EVs costs very little. Audi A6 starts at 42k$, S6 at 72, A7 at 60, A8 at 72. Base Tesla S costs 70k$ now plus a few thousand more hidden expenses such as supercharger access, chargestation at home, navigation package, paint. That's something like 8000$ more just for the little things and that's not even including the active air suspension. That's extra too. So are the rear facing seats. 3000 extra if you want that as well.

[@steven1623s]

I was very interested but for two reasons; battery rental and range. Looks like I wait a little longer.

[@palmersperry]

Assuming Renault did say "We're not leasing you your battery anymore because we want to sell you a new car!", how many people would (a) never buy another Renault ever again and (b) how many people would take them to court? Or to put it another way, can you ever imagine a situation where those results are in Renault's best interests?

[@stephenbusby3521]

"I like the idea of it, but £70 a month!" And that includes 24/7 breakdown cover plus a new battery if yours drops to 70% charge it will be swapped out for free. And no more queuing at the gas station for the ever increasing pricey petrol or diesel. £3 for 130 miles it a no brainer I think

[@stephenbusby3521]

Rumour is Renault have a 250 mile battery in the works for the Zoe, ill get one of those but when Zoe is in the resale market diesel will be £3 - £4 per litre! it's going to happen so evolve.

[@paulcummings55]

He's Baaaaaaack! Good show on the Zoe- nice car. I would especially be interested in how well the heat exchanger works in temperature extremes- say, here in Austin, Texas in July or August? Or in Minnesota in January?

[@lucasskywalker]

Great video! Saw it on OnePageNews.

[@gasdive]

I wasn't talking about the Leaf and I didn't say *all* EV's were a fair price. The S is selling their entire production, nearly 5000/qtr, that's hardly "concept". They're selling well because they're cheaper than their petrol equivalents.

[@gabrielm562]

Good review. I like the Zoe. Hope it sells really well.

[@yeahtuber]

Welcome to Cascais, Robert! :)

[@Stonehengoo]

You remind me of Graham Norton, especially in the end lol.

[@rubyrose9465]

He's back! thats all I have to say seeing as I know close to nothing about cars...... bye!

[@BenJarrold]

The Renault Zoe is 4,084 mm long, the Ford Ka is 3,620 mm long and the Ford Fiesta is 3,950 mm or 4,067 mm long depending if you are looking at the 2008-2010 model or the 2011 onward model so It is definately nearer to the size of a Fiesta than a Ka, very interesting though

[@manoman0]

Great car, nearly bought one, but the battery rental and rental conditions kept me from doing so. I don't want an EV and then I have to pay monthly for a battery.

[@redavatar]

My problem with electric car, is that the technology becomes more and more efficient and a lot of people I know, are waiting for some sort of standard to appear and people just don't want to invest a lot of money for a car which may not be compatible with any standard they suddenly decide on. History has shown this to be a problem in the past and when technology is in flux, everyone sits at the side to see who comes out a winner and THEN the popularity of these cars will explode. Mark my words.

[@stephenbusby3521]

"why don't car companies make batteries which can be easily serviced just in case". The Zoe battery is designed to swap out in less than 5 minutes! Cool or what!

[@zikzakfr]

The braking system is the that was applied on a very old french car. Peugeot 10X or Renault 5 ? I can't remember. Basically the first half of the brake pedal used the regen then the second half used the mechanical brakes. Did Renault tell you about the price of the wallbox to charge the car ? Too bad you can't use a normal plug to charge it, so if you go meet some friends you have to be sure they are not further away than (let's say) 70km.

[@paulcummings55]

What they are really selling is 'battery insurance,' I think- and it shouldn't be necessary. Unfortunately, it speaks volumes of where battery technology is currently at. I am a HUGE proponent of EVs- but, bottom line, to get beyond the early adopters, we still need a better battery. And we will- it is just going to take some time;-)

[@rainbowsalads]

looks nice too.

[@GPlinthon]

You are right. Now start wondering why companies did not do the evident, i.e. make cars electric, charged by small cheap tech. batteries (pluggable at home too....) that give an autonomy of 30-40 km, charged by a generator (just ANY generator, petrol, diesel, LNG, CNG, solar etc. etc.) to increase the autonomy to 10 to 20 times that. The justification that price would be high is ridiculous as most models would actually wear similar-designed motors/gens The tech. exists for some 100 years now.

[@FFVoyager]

You have to consider that the 7500 miles is only equivalent to 144 miles a week, or a 28 mile (14 miles one way) commute. Something that this car should be ideally suited for! To charge a lease for the batteries unnerves me enough about the commercial influence the company will have on my choice is bad enough - but to then put a mileage limit on them shows that they want to restrict my freedoms. I think Renault are making a big mistake and giving ammunition to EV detractors by doing so.

[@owenjones-wells9395]

Going to be getting a Renault Twizy for now. Then in five or so years will change to this car. Or it's future equivalent.

[@Ultra4]

You came to Portugal to test my favorite (quality/price) EV so far, how cool is that?

[@HesteBremse]

So far I like the ZOE - it´s a good looking little car. Wonder if "sport" versions will come to E-cars when they get more common ?.

[@BritishWaterwaysSounds]

I think the price will make this a game changer. I wish i could afford to buy one lol

[@francisa751]

July 2017 - 400 kms range. Things are changing.

[@Senna007uk]

Great show good to see you back reviewing electric cars again. I really hope the Zoe is a big success as it addresses most of the concerns over electric cars, i spend over £70 a week on fuel so £70 a month on battery rental is a big saving. Robert can you tell us what other car reviews will be coming up in this series? will you be driving the Tesla model X? Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV? Ford Fusion?

[@zlozlozlo]

2/3 BP has made mistakes, but those mistakes have been mostly in marketing and in dealing with local (country-level) dealers in Israel. They are rectifying this, and sales are picking up. Last month the sales were somewhere around 0.6% of all cars sold that month in Israel. Norway has the highest percentage of new EVs, and it's somewhere around 1%. At this rate Israel will overtake them very quickly thanks to BP.

[@Ecoenergy]

Hi Robert It was very hard to determine from the static cutaway shot if the battery has heat pump thermal managment like the Fluence, Do you know if it has or is it left to fend for itself?

[@FFVoyager]

I am sure that the battery rental cost will be a problem. An owner will have to work out if the car (@£14,000) + battery rental at £900 a year makes financial sense. But I suspect, for car doing around 5000 miles a year,18p a mile is quite a lot JUST TO RENT THE BATTERY! Add depreciation to the cost and it start to look a bit expensive. But my big concern is that Renault will simply stop leasing you the batteries when they want to sell you a new car and you are left with an unsellable car.