The "Revival" of Revie | From Villainized to "Vindicated" (Friday Night Funkin')

[@SerialIntrovert]

Okay y'all, I have come to make -an announcement- some extra notes and corrections: - I stated in the video that the controversy ended in August 2022. This may not be true, as it seems that there is still more evidence surfacing as of December 2022. - Apparently the Kubi had decided to leak her DMs with Revie because Revie had done something mean to Kubi on a Minecraft Server. All I have currently seen are some Discord DMs (provided very kindly by GameReel and Egg On KZbin). - A lot of people seem to think Rightburst is actually faking his memory illness, or at least is using it as an excuse to get away with saying/doing immoral things. I will see if I can find any evidence of this. - At one point I accidentally said that LuigiKid was the one who posted that really bad reddit post. It was actually one of his fans. - Rightburst has recently made an apology as of January 4 2023: docs.google.com/document/d/1GamIyCWhpQwA1TrHOJGJLe29qZoiZFBDVEj5LwbF3Qw/edit I will continue editing this post as I receive new info.

[@GodittoC]

I believe nayu was the one who first said this

[@k.6385]

btw. it's true kubi decided to leak her dms with revie because revie had destroyed kubi's minecraft thing, nayuchrome said that on twitter before getting suspended

[@archivedchannel543]

@@k.6385 thats so dumb 😭

[@_the1stwanderer_]

@@GodittoC yes, it had ~200 qrts from ppl and us saying how bulls was that, we need to an achive to em acc

[@Gustyguy]

You are a god send you actually going to call them out

[@aymen9551]

I only have 2 things to say: 1- Thanks for talking about the topic 2- This controversy is turning out to be the biggest one the fnf fandom has ever seen dawg istfg Edit: just finished watching the video and it's pretty well made good job

[@Len_ancha]

I agree like this went from everyone agreeing that revie was a "bad"(in a sense of this drama) to people being assholes to each other for saying defend Revie, those who are neutral, and to the people who still think that Revie was not innocent. Plus, the whole drama kind blew out of proportion when all of this stuff was happening as well.

[@seldomstudios6351]

Question, what’s “istfg”

[@aymen9551]

@@seldomstudios6351 istfg=i swear to fucking god

[@SUNKIW.]

I swear the entire community is just reliant on the drama

[@ithinkso6924]

it's even now bigger when u seen that Revie got the Starved and uses the card donut steal thing gatekeeping it from others, I mean it's fine but like she said no mods and shit like, do your own oc lol

[@TheBillNyeGuy]

I would agree that Revie isn't completely in the right, but I am proud of her that she actually took the time to back away from the community and seek therapy instead of defending herself.

[@Xeorboom]

exactly she understood that defending herself would make her look worse so it's best to play along and leave. Serious respect

[@The___Gambit894]

She did tried to defend herself but people weren't listening to her.

[@TheBillNyeGuy]

@@The___Gambit894 Ah. Well either way, her not staying in the community for any longer was mostly the right decision.

[@The___Gambit894]

@@TheBillNyeGuy Well hopefully she comes back in the future. She didn't deserve the fate she got.

[@theidiotanimator1345]

@@The___Gambit894 Ye she didn’t, now that we have more evidence. I do wanna say that she still made some questionable, and overall awful mistakes, so she did kinda need to get drove off the community.

[@aghitsaplane4262]

rightburst's flip flopping treatment of revie is so strange, i've never seen someone go between ''please do not harass this person, we've made up and moved past it :3'' to ''jump the mf and anyone who shows them any kind of positive attention'' every few days, i do genuinely wonder if there's something wrong with the guy with how many times he does it

[@damienearl8302]

Huh, *that's* why I felt so weird about everyone just being chill with the guy, despite how they pretty much led the mass villainization of someone simply because of their OC's!

[@butters461]

It was strange initially i just thought he was on the hate train after realizing he's in the wrong for fear of being exiled from his mod for associating with her

[@O.Kproductions]

There most definitely is

[@ethsinkoh]

here is rightburt’s doc docs.google.com/document/d/1GamIyCWhpQwA1TrHOJGJLe29qZoiZFBDVEj5LwbF3Qw/edit?usp=sharing

[@O.Kproductions]

@@ethsinkoh I don’t think anyone oughta forgive him

[@thewatcherofthewatchable6724]

Thank you. Like, seriously. This whole situation has been a huge shitstorm in the FNF and Sonic.exe community for months now but a lot of people still take everything at pure face value. What's worse is the fact that there are still people who like the character, and that should be okay. But for many it is not since they think liking the character is equal to supporting the creator. People were harassed and some were even doxxed for liking the character, this whole situation has caused a lot of pain to many people, which makes sense as to why they don't wanna talk about it anymore. There should be no sides for this argument, everything that happened is already done. Revie left the Internet. People try moving on but others don't let them. What i'm saying is, thanks for providing all the important evidence and giving your own point of view. This was a great video! Keep it up!

[@suly5836]

Kubi's cancellation was the final nail in the coffin, revie wasn't really that innocent tho, a lot of people have confesed that she was pretty weird and awkward around others, not to mention that her director capabilities were put on doubt after what happened with exetravaganza, and the two year gap is still a very controversial topic, that I personally think is still weird, and she was very, very dumb, to accept an ERP with Kubi, surely Kubi concented, but Revie was the one who accepted, perfectly knowing their age, she needed to be extremely oblivious in order to not see that this could potentially be bad for her in the future. Everyone was flawed one way or another in this controversy, nobody won, except for faker I guess, who now has a slight chance at shining once again in exemerge and fanarts, although twitter still has a small grudge against the character.

[@geometryman2563]

Well there isn't really any knowledge of her having any kind of disorder that could affect her socialization, so maybe there was a disorder there or maybe she was just bad with her relationships I can't say she was the best of the directors, but she knew how to keep it under control and at least keep things straight knowing that things went down after she left vs sonic.exe The ERP is indeed not something you'd want to do with a minor, and i can't defend her for that, but maybe she considered that things wouldn't escalate to the extend of other people thinking she was grooming, because technically it doesn't enter that area, but it also doesn't mean she was fine by doing it

[@damienearl8302]

This is just what I got from the Large Lenny video on her, so you can take it with a grain of salt, but supposedly she *did* consider that fact She was pretty uncomfortable about the idea and was concerned about how it would seem, but Kubi insisted that it was okay because the actual age gap wasn't too big on it's own, so mental maturity wouldn't be much of a factor...but as a fan of Nominal Dingus, I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if that was just to get some dirt on her

[@Chillipeffer]

well, the thing about exetravaganza is that it was After everything that happened. so they might've been severely impeded by the effect of all the harassment they received

[@ethandouro4334]

I agree that Revie could have handle the situation better and could even bypass all of this if it wasn't for the RP, but still, Kubi is still accountable for being sexual at the internet, acting weird towards adults(revie as an example) and having a manipulative side that can hold against them in any serious court.

[@suly5836]

@@ethandouro4334 I really don't understand how this video ignored the kubi cancellation, that was a very big part of the story, confirming she was indeed a manipulator. (oh and the minecraft thing but thats mostly a meme).

[@sansthecritic2093]

This fandom is not evil, just stupid.

[@Xeorboom]

"it's evolving just backwards"

[@sansthecritic2093]

Or that works too because sonic exe 3.0-5.0 sucks because the fans are continuing something that should had ended at 2.0

[@sansthecritic2093]

Yes I’m making a video on post 2.0 and why it needs to stop

[@oxiclee]

nahh its evil man

[@theguywhoishimself]

@@oxicleeHow about both, evil and stupid

[@naganut9718]

Personally, I think Revie is just a weird person that made a mistake on her part. Shit overblown and got overly bloated. I haven't watched it fully yet but coming from you I know this will be good Edit: I disagree on 22:55 . While I understand the point, taking it into context it isn't a good defense. Not only the age gap is just 2 years apart, but just because someone is 18 doesn't mean they're mature enough and vise versa. Heck most adults agree that 4 "true adulthood" if you will, starts at the age of 21-25. Sure if Kubi is like 14 this would be a different story. But since Kubi isnt, it means both sides have to take into consideration because their both are immature in their own way. PS, I heard from somewhere that Kubi turns out to be a groomer, but I just heard that from somewhere so take it with a grain of salt. (If this is covered in the video sorry, I sorta skipped to the bad argument part)

[@ethandouro4334]

I disagree on that point more on "Always for mature" but I use a different formula for it. As Revie is still an adult in the situation, I do agree that she could handle the situation better, however, this doesn't mean that Kubi couldn't be the manipulative one since he was the one asking for it and pushing revie to do so. Even though Revie is wrong for taking their invitation, Kubi is ALSO the one in the wrong here, since he was manipulating an adult to do stuff that THEY wanted. Again, I agree with the core point of "Revie is innocent, but is still a human with flaws", although, I also have the right to disagree over what the conclusion to the actions were taken from.

[@naganut9718]

@@ethandouro4334 yeah edit this and have to say, true

[@idrinkdihyrdogenmonoxide.2525]

I feel like the point of talking about the ERP is to rebut two major allegations: pedophillia and grooming. The age gap quickly puts pedophillia out of the question, which leaves grooming. By highlighting that KUBI is the one to coerce Revie into it, you can then cross-off the idea of grooming, as Revie isn't coercing Kubi into doing weird stuff. So it seems strange to accuse Revie of either, when its clear that neither are true. That being said, I do agree that it was irresponsible of her to so much as accept the ERP- but it just leaves her looking like a pretty weird person, not an individual with serious criminal charges placed on them.

[@ethandouro4334]

@@idrinkdihyrdogenmonoxide.2525 Exactly!

[@ajgameguy3674]

Good video, pretty informative, and called out arguments on both sides. Though, there's a couple arguments I'm not keen on. As far as I could see, people have acknowledged that Revie still goofed up by joining the RPs. The issue that a lot people have is that Kubi and Falsecow claimed that Revie was the one that advanced on them with the RPs, when the screenshots not only contradict that, but also show Revie being hesitant about joining. It was less so "Revie's an innocent bean, they're being manipulated" and moreso "Oh, Kubi lied about what went down in the chat. That kinda makes them less credible". Then there's the "Team framed Revie" claim, which isn't all that incorrect. Sure, Revie admitted that she definitely screwed, but some things were definitely taken out of context to make her look worse. Falsecow portraying Revie as pedo/groomer despite the nuances in those situations (The small age gap between Kubi and Revie, Revie showing hesitence in joining), Revie talking about the OCs and not DreamyCarrotz herself, Revie possibly not being aware that Carrotz was a minor until way later in the convo, RB saying that Revie manipulated people to kick him out the mod despite screenshots showing that it was an unanimous decision by the team with their own reasons to back up their decisions, etc. I ain't gonna act like Revie did nothing wrong, but some things were taken out of context a bit. Hope this helps.

[@Gustyguy]

Didn’t you fucking beavile everything large lenny said And also your gonna lose your shit he literally called you out by saying how a tf2 sex joke is kubis biggest crime HAHAHAHHAHWUWISI

[@ajgameguy3674]

@@Gustyguy Dude, the least you could do is at least be legible in your writing. I have no idea what you're saying.

[@DT_Soul_Main]

This helps a lot. Man, now I look like an idiot for not realizing this sooner. Even though revie is innocent, she is not exempt from her wrongdoings. If Revie didn't erp with kubi, this entire situation could have been completely avoided. Sadly revie gave in to peer pressure and that's her responsibility at the end of the day. It also didn't help that falsecow and others were blowing this way out of proportion when in reality this could have been settled in DMs and be done with it, similar to the situation with Nominal and the VA who voiced final remnant.

[@damienearl8302]

@@DT_Soul_Main Honestly, while it's still something to be corrected, it's really a mistake a lot of us can easily make...there are a *lot* of messed up people in the world, and there are a lot of said people in this community, so I'm hardly surprised that we took a lot of these accusations at face value

[@Apoenzyme]

Did you see the expose thread on kenji

[@thisisnotacreativename1741]

In my opinion, Revie isn't completely innocent nor a groomer, rather an irresponsible adult. Revie should have been more responsible being older than most of the people involved, it's good that she's going to therapy to better herself and (hopefully) be more responsible in the future. Personally, I'm on nobody's side of the story and just hoping that dumb FNF Twitter drama comes to an end, but I can admit when someone does something wrong or is doing their best to be better. I'm not on the "Revie is innocent!!!?!?!?!" train but I'm also not on the "I will send death threats to this mf" train. I don't give two shits what someone did, doxxing them or sending death threats is not ok, if you don't like a creator, block them or ignore them.

[@eljugasodemanzana8390]

You decided not to choose any train. Rather just walk away

[@thisisnotacreativename1741]

@@eljugasodemanzana8390 exactly

[@DreamerFromTheDepths]

This controversy stopped being about whether Revie was innocent or not a long time ago for me, to be frank I don't care what RightBurst has to say at this point because he's been all over the place ever since this happened, many of his friends casually call him out on what he says and does so it's clear to me that he's not of great importance in regards to the actual situation. My main problem comes from how he called Revie out once and everyone encouraged it, after that a noticeable negative decline happened with the guy and you can see it in practically all of his Twitter posts, and so RightBurst just started being the villain because that was the behaviour his following was encouraging. Regardless of how much you hate someone I don't think it's right to call upon other people to make their life miserable, that's what I'm not okay with, and while Revie might have had to worry about sexual harassment claims I think it's worth acknowledging how many people are ignorant to those laws, I only learned sexual harassment was something punishable by law last year, it was pretty recent, this stuff isn't taught in school which is why sexual harassment in schools goes largely unreported, Revie isn't exactly an adult so I think that's important to note. Other than that she was aware of grooming, how could you not be when you're into FNF? So she tried to be cautious initially, obviously I think Revie needs some kind of therapy or help just so she becomes less socially inept but I don't think she was trying to be malicious here. Overall I think it's dangerous for someone to have followers that are so smart yet lack so much emotional control that they'll dox people over disagreements and RightBurst should definitely be more careful about things like this than he has been for the past year or so, the lesson to be learned here is that once you have an audience you have to be careful with what you do and say because you don't want people committing crimes or things like this because of you, it places some responsibility on your shoulders and no responsibility should ever be taken lightly.

[@MellowedGrooves]

MAN this has been a long road. I'm glad it's finally wrapped up. That twitlonger thing from rightburst clarifying everything helped finish thsi off once and for all and honestly now I just feel sorry for Revie. Yeah they did that other thing themselves, they need to change and grow from that shit. but everything else after felt so.. petty and overblown?? this could've been settled behind the doors, we didn't need to be dripfed this shit so we can hate on one side or the other.

[@The___Gambit894]

Excelent. I always wanted you to cover this situation. Your videos are really satisfing.

[@perrykv7312]

This video really explains the situation in a good way, as for my opinion on the matter, as some who is in the 'Revie's Innocent' side, I say that the accusations against her were more exaggerated, the rp/sexual encounter (to my mind I'd say that the term sexual harassment doesn't really describes it well due to it being ok for both sides, might be wrong tho) with Kubicorg, the weird talking with the minor not being directed to the kid but their OC and the whole deal with Rightburst (which tbh I'd rather take his words on the matter with a pinch of salt) She isn't 100% innocent, but the arguments used against her were either exxagerated or don't have strong/enough evidence to support it

[@mpguy24]

This is a good video, sadly though, Twitter only wants people to think "Revie is 100% evil, EXE team are angels" and any other opinion is invalid to them. So they will most likely start to harass you. What's worse is that even in non Revie incidents, exe fans defend this team no matter what, like them defending the team disrespecting their dead member, or defending a member saying that they don't care if a person they bullied commits suicide. Really messed up stuff. Exe fans are just unfixable

[@mpguy24]

Oh and one of the team's meat riders is in this comment section

[@SerialIntrovert]

Who?

[@mpguy24]

@@SerialIntrovert it's a small user named GustyGuy, I saw him in the replies of your pinned comment and recognised him, he is in every Revie video comment section defending the exe team and arguing with everyone

[@mpguy24]

@@SerialIntrovert he is surprisingly a bit more civil on this comment section than usual though, but is still arguing with everyone

[@fireironthesecond2909]

Twitter moment ☕️

[@golinxa]

couple points that i have -rightburts "being forced by the community to hate revi" may be true, as while dms seem to be in favor public tweets aren't(unless the dms are posted by rightburst) -While Revi isn't innocent, it's entirely possible that she isn't a bad person anymore. -While Revie being an adult makes these 2 claims iffy, I'll still say them: 1.revie COULD of felt pressured into the ERP, even if she still should of declined as it couldnt of been much pressure. 2.The whole "showing chest in vc" thing may of been a joke, and purposely made to look like she was going to show her chest, however that kind of joke shouldn't be made around minors. -I do think the whole 14yo interaction shouldn't put a mark on Revie, this is because it was a comission, and then with the ratsona it's well, a ratsona who is an entirely seperate age to the actual 14yo, as much as the talk revie said shouldnt be said in dms with a 14yo. -Now while i dont know where Revie, nor kubi live, it is perfectly fine in some countries to ERP(for example where i live(austalia) the age of consent is 16, therefore that interaction is perfectly fine. While it is unlikely that both live in a country where 16yo are at the age of consent, it is possible. Like i said in these points, Revie isn't innocent. She confirmed that herself, however we can't deny she showed proof that she is seeing therapy and *trying* to change.

[@lexcentrique2554]

Now remember kids, when someone calls your Ratsona hot, they mean the Ratsona, not you. The 14 year old wasn't the one being considered hot, and we know nothing about their appearence. And to quote Ready Player One: "She could actually be a 300 pound dude who lives in his momma's basement in suburban Detroit. And her name is Chuck." Don't judge someone based on their ratsonas, kids.

[@Doppia1581]

Videos like this is why i love the internet, and it is why i enjoy watching this channel, as you dont force your opinions onto people but rather encourage people to look into stuff and formulate their own view on the situation,you are one of the few video essay channels i enjoy, hats off to you kind sir, keep up the good work!!

[@shadicboi4007]

Me just wanting to rap battle against a hegehog covered in blood peacefully-

[@archival_]

Just saying, kubicorg situation got resolved with revie privately by apologizing, kubi accepted the apology but she was just saying bad stuff about revie in public to keep her platform, this information is from falsecow's second thread about revie and they apologized for the pedophilia part if i remember correctly (keep in mind that rightburst was the one who's gonna call out revie but he told falsecow to, i don't remember what was the reason to but it's in GameReel's video about the situation), also kubi got outed for the same revie thing with another bad stuff made their partner uncomfortable apparently and the reason kubi outed revie was because revie did some trolling to kubi *in minecraft*

[@Gustyguy]

Ha I’m not beviling that shit because I’m hopeless because they took the funny trans wolf artist fnb main dev gonna die Nhajwnusnusnwhhw HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[@GameboiXD2457]

While there isn't necessarily any evidence to disprove Rightburst's memory illness, that does still soundlike an average shitty excuse a teenager would make up to get themselves out of trouble.

[@theidiotanimator1345]

THANK YOU! This is one if the most controversial topics in the fnf community, so I an happy to hear you talk about it.

[@Matt77253]

i know this might be a rude or mean joke but 6:40 "oh hel naw wtf" had to be the most unforeseeable answer.

[@squidtilus0.400]

I appreciate your dedication to this topic in particular.

[@A207.]

As more and more people get exposed, the internet is exposing its own darkside more and more, leaving it's good and nostalgic days behind, good KZbinrs, good content, impressive modders, and a fun atmosphere Guess the real world isn't the only one descending to madness

[@meh-o1n]

Revie, the only fnf modder who understands how to handle drama

[@CrystalicDivinty]

Fr.

[@KaroshiSalad1987]

Indeed, I Hope She's Well And That She Exit This Toxic Fandom, I Was A FNF Fan Back In The Day And I Left It Because It Was Toxic, Nowadays Even Worse... Hope The Good People In The Fandom Like You Two Stay Safe...

[@KaroshiSalad1987]

@@CrystalicDivinty GMC Yukon Denali?

[@Chillipeffer]

26:44 THAT"S NOT LUIGIKID MAN COME ON

[@yoshileaks]

Lmfao, enjoyed the video a lot goodjob. Some parts I didn't even know about and I'm glad you kinda covered both sides can't wait for the next vid!

[@SinfullSquad]

Revie’s whole controversy is super confusing. Everyone flip flops between opinions about her. Honestly I just kinda gave up on keeping up with it.

[@KaroshiSalad1987]

I Personally Think She's Innocent.

[@kaizo4217]

All right, thanks for opening my eyes, someone else on the internet convinced me that it was the team sabotaging her cuz they didn't want her on the team anymore but decided to rip off her character so that they can still get the cloute off of it and that was what caused the harassment of her to the point where she just said she did it to get people off her back, but you had showed me that that's not what happened, so first off I live in Canada so I don't know what the rule is over there but here 16 is legal as long as you don't physically have sex and if you're under 20, so her being 18 and the person being 16 doesn't really come off as a big deal to me, but the 14 yr old is indeed not ok, she shouldn't have been talking to them like that, but there's also a counter because at least she wasn't trying like actively start anything like she said she was talking about the characters, but still she shouldn't have talked like that, so from my perspective the 14 year old and the other one that she showed her chest to were the wrongdoings, but at least she admitted she was in the wrong and is trying to get better that shows that she's not some sadistic emotionless pedophile rapist that some people are saying she is

[@swoopsack3368]

she lied about being a grooer she is innocent

[@glitchispider8201]

She isn't a groomer she lied

[@ethandouro4334]

Just commenting here so this video reaches out to more people. I hope Revie is doing well.

[@DionysianLovecraftian]

Thank for this video because this stuff needs to be discussed!

[@Den-rc7uf]

Drama like this is literally the reason I despise the FNF community.

[@Glungus123]

As the time goes on humanity becomes more "stupider" as the years go by, This world has made me more disappointed as I watch every action of the people, Watching and waiting for the day.

[@samuelf1612]

I actually used to think that Revie was fully innocent. I won’t blindly follow a single person on the matter, but I thank you for at least presenting the rest of the information, and I’m glad I’m better informed now. Thanks

[@guyfriend7411]

Really well-made video, great work! I'll admit, I've seen the whole situation go down since the very beginning, and I feel conflicted. On the one hand, there's really good points that hold up. On the other hand, there's the fact that most folks aren't willing to take the time to look at the evidence and jump to conclusions. Sadly, the majority of FNF has folks who haven't had the time to know how to handle situations like this, and thus they make it really hard to keep things in private. Also, with bad arguments like, "Separate the art from the artist, if you don't like the artist and their bad things, at least their art is really good!" and "This person did (anything terrible they could think of), don't trust them!", it really gets exhausting having to explain the truth when pretty much everyone has latched onto these sorts of false claims and parroting them everywhere they go. As for my personal take on the Revie situation? I'll say that while she's not completely innocent, she's also owned up to her actions and willing to move on from it and try to improve herself for the best. Also, most of the other team members aren't exactly innocent themselves, but at which extreme varies depending on who you ask and something I don't wish to talk about since it's a hot button topic. Besides, what's the point of talking about stuff like this in a mature manner when there will be that one person who will present bad arguments and turn it into a toxic conversation? TL: DR, I'm neutral to the whole thing, and I personally feel that the situation could've been handled better in hindsight. Otherwise, I enjoy the video. About one point I would bring up is Toastify's video about Revie, it seems that people look to him for anything FNF related and hold his points as valid. Good day, and stay funky, folks!

[@TheBanatter]

Separating the art from the artist is bad?

[@guyfriend7411]

@@TheBanatter I should've explained more about it: Most folks use it as an excuse to defend their favorite character w/o listening to valid criticisms about the artist, in this case Revie and her OC EXE/Faker. Moreso, they say it w/o giving context for the reasoning behind it. This isn't saying that it's inherently bad, but it's easily misused by folks who ignore/discredit people they disagree with.

[@TheBanatter]

@@guyfriend7411 Ahhhh I getcha now. Yeah I'm fine with people Liking the art whilst seperating the artist as long as they're not using it as an argument for anything other than why they should be allowed to enjoy it.

[@guyfriend7411]

@@TheBanatter Same here, just jaded that folks tend to make things more complicated than it needed to be

[@swoopsack3368]

She didn't want to defend herself so she lied about it being true

[@mangocc8528]

Thank you! Great video.

[@newerboomerangmiaro7778]

My opinions on the whole thing after hearing the evidence is that revie did make a few mistakes, and I personally think as long as she can learn from them and become a better person from it is good And I think rightburst should be held accountable for his childish behavior as a mod director should be patient with it's teammates and staff as they are the one's who put the time and effort into making a mod, and I bet if he went on with making a second mod as he threatened to history would repeat itself with him overworking his staff, in fact I personally believe that rightburst is more in the wrong than revie is, and hopefully he learns from his experiences in the future rather than forgetting them

[@VyxiMainchannel35]

This is the best Revie-themed video ever made. You have explained the details no one has ever talked about before and showed that even while the evidence against her is a nonsense, she's still not entirely innocent and showed why. The arguments you've presented are valid. And i realized stuff. The video is actually well made, great job!

[@glitchispider8201]

She is very much innocent

[@VyxiMainchannel35]

@@glitchispider8201 i know

[@sweezo4971]

My thoughts on the topic is that i dont think revie is the reincarnation of the holy spirit, nor is she worse than hitler shes a little weirdo who made slight mistakes and has been trying to make things right ever since, and i respect them for that

[@patron_only]

The video was actually good and I like how people still give a f*ck trying to solve this dispute after a year of fighting and manipulation! First Large Lennie, then Tostify, then Mehmet Bruhductions and now Serial Introvert! Of course, she did some things wrong, but the overreacting caused this to be a actual drama and it could've been sorted privately if people were more mature and understandable, but it was more of a scheme to keep the status clean. I feel sorry for her, but at the same time I don't really feel completely happy if i read it all again from the beginning... BUT to be fair, a year has passed, she took therapy, i think that's enough already! Make peace!

[@brunettebi4111]

Large Lenny and Toastify aren't good people. Large Lenny defends Nominal.

[@forkalamari6093]

This has really good points in it. I didn’t know about the ratsona thing, but I DID know about everything else. The only complaint I have is when you say that Revie’s response was common, and that’s just because I haven’t seen many people apologize and QUIT. People normally apologize then 5 minutes later go back to their normal schedule. I do agree it was… kinda generic. Overall good points! Please don’t start a war-

[@shutupjojo_]

Informative Video 🫡🫡

[@scroinklyboinky]

omg hi jojo

[@ajgameguy3674]

Sup.

[@ethandouro4334]

omg jojo

[@Kennysstan]

How are you doing Jojo

[@windows98alpha35]

I’m super glad Revive is getting help and is getting better. That gives me some semblance of closure to this horribly handled situation. It got me beyond pissed off that people couldn’t use Faker just because of the accusations. As if characters are also guilty of their creators mistakes. This community unironically fell Hard from grace along with her as everything came undone.

[@Smols828]

Revie is innocent also she uses twitter also you goes by raven now

[@InstaFiz]

Hey, thank you. Everything in this video is stuff I've wanted to communicate for a long time, but the community harassed me out of doing it. I'm really happy you stepped up.

[@the_tyrantrous_spy]

Great video and keep up doing whatever you want bud ! 👍

[@CursedDiamondOfficial]

1. Evidence in the video is pretty neutral 2. Then comments are pretty neutral 3. The facts are balanced out 4. My knowledge on the situation and my love for Sonic/Sonic.exe/fnf is pretty neutral Long story short- Revie's chill in my book

[@CursedDiamondOfficial]

(but I'm not one sided, if I get any more facts, my opinion may/may not heavily change)

[@Thatguylma]

Neutrality is pretty cool honesty, just sitting back with popcorn watching this shitshow unfold is entertaining

[@GiffanyCD]

My opinion, this all could've been avoided if Revie just said no to Kubi.

[@The___Gambit894]

This could have been avoided if it was kept and resolved in private.

[@GiffanyCD]

@@The___Gambit894 that's also a fair point

[@jacksonvoet8312]

Peer pressure is truly a cruel evil…

[@Happy06853]

Lets talk about how painful it was to read those messages while discord was ON LIGHT MODE WTF

[@mozkuthehermit5909]

Small lesson to anyone here If you ever want to make content and something DO NOT DO ANY RP's Especially ERP's Just try to have least amount of commucationmwhat is possible, as you can see, anyone is looking for next drama to start up and abuse that gain atension

[@KaroshiSalad1987]

Better Yet, IF YOU HAVE A PUBLIC AND RESPECTED ACCOUNT Don't Join Shady Stuff With Unknown People, Don't Talk With Minors And Don't Say Shit In Discord, Twitter, Etc, Because Even If It's A Joke, Bad People Will Take It Out Of Context.

[@empoleon7750]

I used to be into doing RPs, but I got a massive wake-up call by somebody I used to do them with, and I stopped, realizing I had to cut this habit before it was too late. Then again, I’m going to be honest - It is already too late for me. It was too late the moment I discovered them.

[@Len_ancha]

Well this looks pretty juicy video you're going to be covering. I hope the aftermath of this goes well for you.

[@terratheonly]

1:35 "The controversy surrounding Revie began at the beginning." - Serial Introvert, 2022

[@welpwelpwelpwelp1111]

Can't wait for the next video

[@nothingandvengeanceshow1964]

This video looks interesting, I’ll be watching when it comes out. -RB.EXE

[@SnazzyGold]

One thing I gotta say for Twitter, (Inhale) WHEN THE F**K WILL YOU GUYS STOP MAKING REVIE TRENDING ISTFG.

[@temmieKAT]

I guess it’s just a topic to talk about and people will be people

[@The___Gambit894]

After watching this video I'm would like to respond to some of the points made that I dissagre with. 13:12 huh? What do you mean sexual harassement? No one said Revie sexually harassed Kubi. People said this encounter was more a high school relationship due to the age gap. 22:48 Well here's the thing. People say that Revie is innocent in this instance because of the age gap being only 2 years and due to what happenes when you hit 18. When you turn 18 you don't have a switch button in your brain that makes you know everything. You're just an adult on paper but phisycally and mentally you're still a teenager. Which is what makes people think Revie joining that RP was okay. In this type of relationships, even tho one is officially an adult both sides still have the same mental capacity which makes it okay to date or do stuff like an RP (that didn't include nudes). And both Kubi and Revie live in the US, and the age of consent in majority of states is 16. So you can't really call Revie a pedo, groomer or sexual harasser over this encounter because of circumstances such as the age gap and being started by Kubi. 23:28 The reason people accussed Kubi of blackmailing Revie is because of what she said: "I was holding them for myself to keep you accountable. Just in case." Which means Kubi knew she wasn't groomed and wanted to use it as dirt against Revie to frame her in the future. While strangelly refusing to discuss the situation with her. And this line sounded like a threat. Not to mention that Madzila himself called this blackmail. 23:54 People use this as dirt against Kubi because it makes the claim that Revie traumatized Kubi look pretty bad. Like, how was she traumatized by a small RP that SHE started with an "adult" when she's very sexual on the internet? It dosn't make any sense and it's gonna raise a lot of skepticism around Kubi's claims. And Kubi later deleted her Steam history after people started to point it out which made her claims look even more questionable and made her look pretty disshonest. Oh! Also, last month Kubi was exposed for grooming a minor herself by doing stuff such as requesting nudes. So much for being a victim of grooming Kubi Corg! XD 27:39 So it looks like you think Revie is not totally innocent because of what she said in this tweet. There's an argument used by people on Revie's side that she admit it because she was pressured. Argument started by... Revie herself. As shown in the vs Sonic.exe exposed doc. Revie gived up and refused to defend herself because of huge pressure and being sent death threats and insults constantly. Revie is a transgender woman who is STILL tranzitioning. People like her easally have a mental decline under pressure. Which is why she made that tweet. Oh btw. One last thing. It depends what people mean when they say Revie is innocent. If you mean that Revie is innocent from doing bad stuff, or being a wierdo or a jerk, doing some mistakes, then no, she is not totally innocent. If you mean that she is innocent from doing a crime, or something that will send her in jail, then yes, she is totally innocent.

[@theguywhoishimself]

Agree with all your points here. Also, I honestly don't understand why some people won't just realize you don't grow up by age, but by experience. The more you aged, the more experience you are LIKELY to have depending on what you do. Age doesn't tell your experience. Being 18 doesn't automatically make you ready for sexual stuff, and being below 18 also doesn't make you not ready for them. Simply, it depends on experience, so if you don't have any experience about them, you're not ready and if you do, you are ready. Revie's hesitation before the ERP and her feeling guilty after it could somewhat show that it was her first ERP. KubiCorg on the other hand, had obviously participated in many ERPs before, meaning she has more experience than Revie in ERPs, therefore actually being more mature than her in that field. And with her actually being exposed for grooming, it wouldn't surprise me if she managed to manipulate Revie into doing the ERP with her.

[@MamutaBCU]

Is it just me or is the Mega Man community the only one without a controversy since 2020?

[@davisantana8377]

Im gonna wait and see what happens when most of the community gets in the know of Kubi sexually harassing someone recently

[@Lechgang]

Rightburst deserves absolutely no sympathy for this, he's absolutely gotta go. And a good amount of the exe team probably needs to follow him out the door.

[@witherslayer-7315]

Fr

[@theguywhoishimself]

Literally. I have absolutely no idea how some people still fall for his excuses to this day.

[@specialkawaiiangel]

God i cant believe they tried to call them a p word 16 and 18 is not that you guys omfg

[@MellowNova]

You'd think that the Drama Amp Effect wouldn't let some people recover to any extent... But I'm glad Rev had the over exaggerated crap cleared from her name

[@ajgameguy3674]

Eh, not really. She dipped from the community and got therapy, which is good. But people still push the "Revie's a gr00mer/p3d0" claim despite the evidence against it.

[@IBE0n3]

For me, i had no idea what the EXE drama was. So, i was just confused.

[@Fetch500]

Finally! I’m not the only one

[@bendystudios7798]

I’m not one to really look at controversy, but despite all they did, I’m sad it got Faker Sonic to be replaced. He was a lot more creepier than Hog and would have liked to see more of him

[@TicTonic96]

I can confirm I regret working with rightburst for sonic.exe re-run. Now I am scared if re-run will fall since he is now the director of the mod now. Now that I know the history I can confirm I don't voice actor for re-run anymore.

[@Vichroma]

i genuinely never cared for the Revie situation, i just don't want someone like her in a space mostly full of minors, especially since those minors make up a majority of the people idolizing her at the moment. i'm not negative or positive about it, i'm just worried if i should trust her or not

[@swoopsack3368]

Revie was literally the backing away because she didn't want to look like a pedo

[@glitchispider8201]

Bro are you stupid?,

[@abioticweb03]

when i first saw revie's content around like, 2019 or 2020, it was awesome tbh, seeing faker art and prob animations of him i seen before, but then after i realized about revie of what happened, kubi was the first one to ruin everything in the exe community.

[@_Frieza]

Well this video is great and all, until you realize that kubi got caught grooming. The groomed becomes the groomer, it is good that revie still took responsibility for her actions later as she wasn't entirely innocent regardless of Kubi's manipulation.

[@swoopsack3368]

She was entirely innocent she just said cringe stuff she didn't do a crime

[@kolsiq12]

It's sad how there is probably more fnf drama videos than videos actually talking about the game/mods..

[@Reviebadbecauseyes]

Ok anyways 1 2🧐, buckle my shoe🤯 , 3 4🥶 , buckle some more😏: , 5 6🤓: , nike kicks

[@kolsiq12]

@@Reviebadbecauseyes mf what

[@ethandouro4334]

The only thing I can disagree with in this video is the part where you say "minors consuming pornography isn't the same as an adult grooming one", It might not be illegal in america, but in pretty much some countries in latin america and Europe holds a grisp against Minors being exposed early to pornography, since it can produce the same psychological effect as grooming, but other than that, I do agree that people bashing wrongfully at Kubi was a little too much. Still, Kubi would still commit blackmail to Revie regardless of paranoia, it's like holding a gun and shooting someone accidentaly, you didn't mean to, but you still shoot it! So you still commited the crime, even if you didn't mean to.

[@ZioEndling]

Wrong. Being exposed to porn is NOT the same as being manipulated into doing certain things by an adult. Regardless of what country you're in, that's simply a fact. Kubi WILLINGLY tried to blackmail Revie to use against her later. That is a very fair thing to be upset at Kubi for because that is actual scumbag behavior.

[@ethandouro4334]

@@ZioEndling I'm not saying that being exposed to porn is the same as being manipulated by an adult, but it can present a very sense of sexual trauma as sexual manipulation by an adult can do. I discussed that with some spanish speaking guys in the comment section, search it up and put it on the translator. But regardless, yes I do agree that Kubi tried to blackmail Revie and it's not justifiable that he was paranoid, since it doesn't justify for him doing something serious as blackmail.

[@EgoistTheMoon]

0:13 I like it when my fandom has bad and creepy infamous guys 😍 6:10 Is that really sexual? I really don't fucking care about this. It's ridiculous to see people care so much about something meaningless, it feels like too much effort to try to research and determine something about the topic. Like, aren't there better things to do?

[@infineoinfinite]

It's about damn time to discuss the entire thing around ... huh. Yeah, it is still her fault, apparently.

[@PumpyGT]

I feel like Revie should be given a second chance, I believe that she knows better now

[@The___Gambit894]

What do you mean second chance? She was framed. She was never a pedo. She should have never been cancelled.

[@fireironthesecond2909]

I’d say I agree. The only thing she did wrong (with evidence) was the ERP with someone barely two years younger than her.

[@ZioEndling]

@@fireironthesecond2909 And even THAT isn't wrong. 16 and 18 is within the same age group in, like, high school. It's really not that big a deal.

[@theultimatesagavan6287]

Can you please cover the situation going on with Yanrinalla (someone who used to be part of the FNF community who was working on a mod called Rise of the Goth Punks, and got exposed for being an awful person which led to the mod getting canceled and redone without their involvement). Really sucks that Yan is trying to crawl their way back into the community while trying to diminish all their wrong doings even though they're public knowledge (harassment of another fnf modded Ramen) or available in a Google document callout post.

[@CarrotMuncherPony]

We all make mistakes but we learn and grow from these mistakes cancelling them isnt going to do shit but make there lives worse and them changing their actions impossible

[@zombielizard9383]

Revie essentially fricked around and found out, and they found really bad stuff She might've not been innocent, but she owned up to her accusations She might've acted too trusting and naive with the things she did, but she's actually going to make sure none of that bull happens again She might've been harsh with some people even if she felt she had to or not, but when she got all those exaggerated accusations, everyone was a hundred times more harsh than what she ever could have said to someone in her life She might've not really seen what was so bad and sickening for everyone else that didn't like her before her controversy sparked, but after she noticed what was so bad and sickening, she actually wanted to purge herself off of it Most people that get caught with stuff like this sometimes just worsen up their case by just saying "sorry", but then they do those terrible things again, and again, and again, until they reach a certain point where they cannot save their social status So, I forgave Revie, because her wrongs were kinda minimal, and after she was bombarded with negativity for her minimal but exaggerated actions, she demonstrated to be one of those people that has two fingers in front of them and acually wanted to change her attitude and mindset, and make that change her interval in time where she learned to get rid of her old quirky and foolish attitude and not repeat what got her in trouble ever again And I'm glad most of us accepted her change as genuine, and we're now in good terms

[@swoopsack3368]

Nope nope revie was innocent

[@zombielizard9383]

@@swoopsack3368 I know, didn't you read what I said abt her? She did engage the roleplay with Kubikorg, but everything else was taken waaaayyyyyyy out of proportion

[@glitchispider8201]

​@@zombielizard9383with that age gap it isn't grooming

[@zombielizard9383]

@@glitchispider8201 Yeah I know I've had the thing of kubi and her mess with my head, along with how people allegated with the age of consent ethically and morally stated by the law and all that But ultimately the 1-2 year age gap they had while also both being under 18, objectively made the case redundant, which meant that the antis were watering down the term "pəd0" when they used it on her and made the comparison of her with amor just so messed up And that made everyone finally realize that Revie was never a P in the first place, she was just a little weird

[@mr.trololo9073]

I remember I seen a tweet that some of exe devs said they kicked revie from team cuz she destroyed smt in minecraft, tweet(or acc) was deleted but I screen shoted it

[@k.6385]

pretty well done video keep it up

[@L30nGD]

Man all this stuff started over a minecraft house 😭

[@SerialIntrovert]

Do you have any definitive proof of this? Genuinely curious because I can't find any evidence about it.

[@L30nGD]

I’ll send it to you on discord if it’s fine

[@L30nGD]

My name is luthersworld and I’ll give you a dm

[@L30nGD]

@@SerialIntrovert ok sounds fine

[@Smetty]

@@L30nGD does blud know how to use discord 😭

[@ezy-connect5337]

Cool, keep it coming 😁

[@lexcentrique2554]

At LAST, someone who says that Revie did some stuff wrong using ACTUAL arguments. Okay it can still debated but have you seen the guy's words? At least it's something that makes somewhat sense!

[@walkingterror7360]

Remember, this drama is all started over Minecraft

[@butters461]

Omori fan explains the duality of the human mind and why there is not always black and white morality to clarify a drama that has gone on for too long I Am also an omori fan, so don't take this comment as offensive or serious lmao

[@sco0nthabeat]

I fucking hate how all this drama surrounds a game about a little blue boy singing like he has helium and auto tone on. Like seriously why can’t people on the internet take anything seriously?

[@daversal7239]

2 year age gap isnt grooming

[@aure..]

At the end all of that is kinda about 2 members of the team who try they best to stay cool at eachother but one of them doesn't know if he have to hate or not hate this pal and in a other side we have someone who knows what they did but also know what they didn't do and trying they best to help this other pal but still a bit mad about the accusations

[@Fencer-s]

Ahhh damn two days……

[@SerialIntrovert]

Sorry, my mistake! It'll be aired in 1 day

[@Fencer-s]

@@SerialIntrovert Alrighty then

[@cheemsgd7300]

I don't know why but i kinda side with Revie

[@LilBro_Thats_My_Name]

Revie is not 100% innocent but she handled the situation well by leaving the internet to go to therapy and working on herself and not try defend her shitty actions

[@יאירפיקר]

I just saw it in the middle of a lesson in school wtf is happening

[@razorblade9580]

this is why i am deciding to leave the fnf community... Revie is one of my fav people in this community and seeing her suffer from all this make me wonder...wtf is wrong with people...

[@KaroshiSalad1987]

The FNF Community Is Sick In The Head, Along With Twitter And 50% Of Entire Newgrounds... I Hope You're Safe And You Did The Right Choice To Leave...

[@rushledog]

I'm so happy finally someone does an actual video and says She's not the "victim" or totally innocent Altho i don't think at all kubi is a poor teen who got manipulated, specially after that doc about they 💀(i'm not saying this makes her innocent, i'm just saying that kubi is not the poor grooming victim some people still think they are)

[@ethandouro4334]

I still hold the position that Revie is still flawed for accepting and acting a little out of the curve, I agree, but Kubi is way more manipulative than revie, so he helds an accountability for.

[@rushledog]

@@ethandouro4334 yes, she still did bad, i never intended to say that she is innocent because kubi is worse

[@jamesoliver6806]

I have nothing to say except for the fact that I 1: had no idea this was happening. 2: expected the comments to be super long.

[@ZioEndling]

There is evidence that Revie wasn't even aware that Dreamy was 14 until later on. You may want to check that out?

[@SerialIntrovert]

I already saw it. That doesn't excuse Revie because IIRC Dreamy says in those screenshots that she already told Revie she was 14 in a group chat.

[@ZioEndling]

@@SerialIntrovert Even if that were the case, I don't think her calling an OC "uwu hot" is the same as calling the 14 year old hot. Ofc, you knew that, but it's hardly something to get too critical over. Ofc, it was weird. But it isn't predatory. Either, always double-check your sources. Not saying you're wrong, but I recall the contrary.

[@SerialIntrovert]

@Adto I'm not sure what you're talking about. I'm simply responding to the comments which warrant a response (e.g. the people who ask me questions or tell me I should "look into something"). Also, what does Rightburst's age have anything to do with this comment or the controversy as a whole? He wasn't a grooming victim.

[@ZioEndling]

@@adto4987 Dude, get the FUCK out of my replies. He replies to any comment that is misguided, lmao. Make your own comment on whatever problems you have of the video, don't bring it here. We're trying to have constructive discussion. It's obvious that you're completely misunderstood on various points in the video and, to that, I say rewatch the video with less emotion and more logic.

[@DDDuodeno]

24:38 Ok, entiendo tu punto, es obvio que Revie no es inocente al 100%, pero te equivocas en algo, las cosas que "admitio" haber hecho no las admitio verdaderamente, no hay que ser Einstein para saber que esa admisión fue obra de la PRESION SOCIAL del momento, la evidencia como bien has demostrado antes, esta manipulada Edit 2: 22:54, es cierto que Revie no debió aceptar el ERP pero hay que tener en cuenta 2 cosas, manipulación y confianza, eran amigos, se llevaban bien, uno propuso algo afirmando que no era nada malo y que solo seria entre ellos 2 No puedes poner como culpable a una víctima de manipulación, que pecó de confianza

[@DDDuodeno]

@Adto ya pero me refiero que lo mas impactante y fuerte que "admitio" no lo admite realmente y todos los sabemos

[@ethandouro4334]

@@DDDuodeno En mi opinión, ese video hace un buen trabajo para cualquiera que quiera tomar partido y crear su propia conclusión sobre tales hechos, sin embargo, debo estar de acuerdo en que algunos puntos de ese video fueron un poco manipuladores y deshonestos con la situación en sí. Mi mayor problema con este video fue el hecho de que el OP sintió que no era culpa de Kubi que estaba manipulando Revie para hacer rolls sexuales con ella, después de todo era Kubi quien estaba presionando, no Revie. Kubi estaba manipulando a Revie para que hiciera ERP para su saciedad, por no mencionar que estaba actuando de una forma totalmente antinatural para una persona menor de edad. El argumento de que Kubi no se equivocó por tener juegos pornográficos o actuar como un adolescente cachondo por sexo, no se justifica al mismo buscar un amigo adulto para hacer algo sexual, después de todo, aunque Revie se equivocó al haber aceptado, y en esto estoy de acuerdo, el que se equivocó en primer lugar fue Kubi.

[@DDDuodeno]

@@ethandouro4334 entonces estas de acuerdo conmigo

[@DDDuodeno]

@Adto también me hace gracia el hecho de que Madzilla pusiese en su Twitter "soy un hombre ahora" lo que significa que no se quejo de que Revie hiciese eso y otra cosa es... ¿Cuales pechos? Revie es transgénero, no tiene pechos, sabes lo ilogica estúpida y ridicula que pone esa situación el hecho de saber esto Edit: El verdadero nombre de Revie es Robin, con eso te lo digo todo

[@ethandouro4334]

@@DDDuodeno Si hermano

[@Me_gusta_el_flan]

I know a person who does Roleplay and POSSIBLY Sex Roleplay with people aged 12 and up (the person is 16-17) on discord and no one really cares about it, especially me, there are many people who do that and it doesn't matter that it didn't happen to them any

[@penitente3337]

protip: Nothing happens to people if they're not caught. That doesn't mean it's not wrong.

[@empoleon7750]

You should probably tell this person to stop doing the latter before they get labeled a groomer or pedophile for doing so. Maybe this person isn’t really a predator or a groomer, but for their own sake and the sake of those around them, they need to stop doing those kinds of role plays before it’s too late.

[@memekaijuking6957]

I never had any negative thoughts about revie and thought she was unjustly pounded with negativity

[@rajavaidya8910]

7:17 This was just plain weird

[@CarrotMuncherPony]

When is there ever not drama? Its either they did that or they did this or whatever

[@crazygoatanimations3577]

You could say, the Revie-val.

[@Iodine_The_Spider]

Oh, looking at all the dramas (not only the drama that happened around Revie) that's been going on in this community, I'm becoming more and more convinced that the FNF community is a toxic swamp that is rich in all sorts of forms of hatred towards anyone. All in all, thank you for the video for explaining this drama in more or less detail (since I didn't even know about the existence of this drama before).

[@Max-oi5ny]

wait didn't Rightburst also stole art from Revie.

[@The___Gambit894]

Yes. He did. And he keeps doing it.

[@enderparrot3314]

@@The___Gambit894 He also keeps stealing ideas from her as well. Ironic that he hates her but is super obsessed with her and her exe.