The Revopoint Range Review - Is it worth your money?

[@johncampbell4498]

for car bodywork, it is really helpful to be using magnetic markers for fast application and removal. These can be made yourself by cutting from a thin(2mm) sheep of magnetic material and sticking the markers onto that. works super well for the steel ferrous bodies of cars.

[@silverrotary]

Great Video as usual. Found a method I really like with the einstar. Wide Painters tape on the body panel. Tracking dots on the painters tape. Then peel the tape and reuse as one large strip of tracking dots.

[@watsonstudios]

Would like to see the Einstar against the Range 2 for sure. Those are the two scanners I'm tying to decide between. I especially like that the Range2 can be used with a phone and having the scanning screen right in front of you seems to be more convenient than having to turn your head every 3 seconds to follow your scan on a PC monitor.

[@agerrgerra1361]

I got the revopoint inspire a week or two ago and it's worth noting that the mobile/phone scanning mode limits a single scan to just 3000 frames, so at 18 fps that's just under 3 minutes of scanning. Dark mode seems to scan at around 8 fps or lower so it'll stretch that time to over 6 minutes. It's been good for scanning suspension components but much larger objects would be harder to capture in only 3000 frames, especially when you have to move slowly and smoothly to maintain tracking. You can merge scans If you have the money and a good PC or laptop that you can put near a garage, the Einstar sounds like a no brainer. If I had one I'd probably get a cheap little monitor and an HDMI extension cord to walk around with. When I'm scanning off the computer I barely look away from the monitor, since it shows you a view of what you're scanning anyways.

[@watsonstudios]

@@agerrgerra1361 Yes, if I did the Einstar, I would definitely create a remote monitor, maybe with a wireless HDMI setup or if I can clone my monitor to my phone, that would be great too. Just need to figure out how to do that. I also need to see if my computers are up to spec for the Einstar. I have quite a few dual Xeon 12 core machines with 32-48 gigs of ram but I need to make sure my CPUs are not too old or have the correct feature set required.

[@Alphachanel]

@@watsonstudios With the Einstar it's the GPU that's the major feature required as it needs an nVidia card as the software requires Cuda for the scan data processing. I've been assessing a few scanners for work and the Einstar is one, if we did get it I'd be tempted to borrow it :cough: to see if I could get it running with Zuda (an open source version of Cuda, though sadly recently active development has been stopped but a large chunk of the features are there apparently) and a Radeon GPU.

[@bertje83]

Great content! The only thing I noticed is that the steering wheel in your cars is definitely on the wrong side! Stay Hydrated!

[@nothingsworking]

I was waiting for this hoping they've sent you the Range 2 for testing.

[@TravisFabel]

My first thought when you showed the big turntable: "You need to stand on that turntable." seconds later, I wasnt disappointed. lol

[@Z0neDrift]

If you can, you should check out the Creality Ferret(any of them, scanner is the same in all kits). I used the base one for half a year for car parts and scanning entire underfloors of cars, before switching to Einstar. An honestly, for the bang for buck price difference of needed hardware(einstar+laptop), i was more impressed with the ferret. That being said, i'm not giving up the einstar now that i have it lol.

[@DomZaa]

I bought myself a creality ferret and get perfectly along with it for my purposes (re-engineering of smaller parts or getting geometry for additional instrument holder and so on). Now that i got myself a Passat B3 Variant for a little money and plan to use it for road trip purposes i would really love to scan the interior so i can build a camping box in Fusion. As the interior is mostly covered by dark plastic or carpet I am looking for ideas how to improve the surface for a better scan. As you tested and used many scanners in different use cases do you maybe have an idea of how to work around? Thanks for your videos anyways. I just got hyped as I saw your newest video in my yt feed.

[@SETHalpine]

I've a grey metallic car and a sunveryshinny daylight, here in the South...So i use the Range during the night, and it work quite well with the markers. Metallic paint are always challenging, but during the night, reflection are gone.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I’m sure it could be made to work, I rate the Range, but a lot of people buy these things without understanding the limitations because, well, the limitations are often not well explained by the companies…

[@markvanhaaften3020]

Great content! Searching the web for Einstar VS Range2 would be great if you can get your hands on a range2.

[@apoco_lips9957]

AYYY thats me in the intro! liking the vid already

[@baddoodle6876]

I'm planning to scan people and 3d print them. Just sniped a range of eBay for $300. I'm excited! Nice video!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Sounds great!

[@tribaldesigns]

@makingformotorsport one thing to note, although the scan appears to have no orientation, it does in fact, orientate the scan to the first frame. Its not ideal but you can help orientation by making sure your first frame is square to the x and y. It does still need and external program as you say, but it can make viewing in Revoscan a bit more sensible. Did you try scanning the beeeeemer in daylight with the Einestar? With the Range you can scan outside at night and in low sunlight dusk as it is the infrared from the sunlight that causes the lack of scan results during the day. Still loving the videos :-)

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Cheers for tip about first frame orientation… the Einstar can do outside no problem…

[@TrinomCZ]

I use Einstar for some time and finally found a reasonably priced second hand laptop with enough power to process the data. You can get refurbished Lenovo Thinkpad P52 (the top spec) for about 600 pounds.

[@zigzagzoom0478]

I know you've already been bombarded with requests for the Range 2, but I'm here to do the same 😂. And here's my Rant Alert! < Including clips like the one at 13:56 is the most helpful thing you can do for us! Seeing that overlap and stack up of tolerances that the scanner just can't keep up with, gives me terrible dread just watching! Having tried scanning medium sized parts with the Mole, I know that once you see that overlap, you can expect your end to end accuracy to be off in the scale of inches. > I want the range 2 to work, and I want a nice handheld/portable option, but in my heart, I know that it will never be able to compare to the einstar. The amount of energy going into computing while scanning with the einstar will never be mirrored with a smartphone (at least with current tech). Love your work! Your videos have been super helpful!

[@andrewdavies7816]

Have you tried the talc and isopropyl alcohol spray solution to dust bigger panels? (Idea shamelessly shared from superfastmatt)

[@jona_ej2330]

Que paso con el mini antiguo no vas a hacer nada mas con el? Saludos

[@802Garage]

Woo I'm popular! Wait you meant the demand... Dang it. Love your scanner reviews! Seems the Creality Otter is the better bet overall. Will be interesting to see how the Raptor does. The Einstar looks like a good option too.

[@Noahh_jp]

Few questions/comments. How is that elegoo behind you? heard they were kind of dodgy but for the build size and cost it seems good. I also bought a einstar with your code last night and saw a review that someone used scotch/painters tape on parts like the windshield and drew lines and shapes to help the scanner. I thought this might be a good alternative to markers as it will make unique shapes for the scanner to pick up (and easier to clean up)

[@sky-persuitofwonder]

marker mode is meant for motion capture whereby the software ignores the body and specifically focuses on the center of the marker, like a mask. not 3d scanning so that's why you were having tracking issues.

[@innovpixels]

The Einstar is in the hobbyiest price range but requires professional computer power. And a giant power adapter that's tethered to the scanner which needs an outdated USB-A port

[@calebm7528]

Can we get an update on the carbon nylon itb manifold you made for the mini?

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Gimme a few weeks 👍👍👍

[@skaltura]

There is magnetic markers. Just got some, got Creality ferret going to try with. I've managed to use it to scan panels even without them tho!

[@stigastondogg730]

Was going to mention this. I bought some and use them often and work the same as the stick on ones (in my experience anyway).

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Yeah, Dave keeps telling me to print them, but until they are shipped with the scanners that feels wrong… to solve a problem for them….

[@bad_decision_works]

Perfect timing for this video. I really want to buy a 3D scanner to design some parts for my race car, but I am a mac-boy, so einstar is not an option. And the range feels like it's a waste of money compared to the einstar.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Hopefully the Range2 is closer in performance. But if you are tied to OSX then you can’t have Einstar. Like I said in the vid, having to buy an all singing all dancing laptop is often a deal breaker (I just spent an ungodly amount on one…) Boot Locker a windows install?

[@bad_decision_works]

Another question: my car is a Volo 240... the definition of a large car with flat panels. But does it help with scanning if there is stickers/patterns on the car? My car is completely covered in decals and I have a plotter and cheap film. Is that an easy fix for the tracking loss?

[@MakingforMotorsport]

@bad_decision_works I’ll be honest I don’t know. I don’t think that it uses colour to track so I doubt it… but if anyone knows better please chime in..

[@bad_decision_works]

@@MakingforMotorsport Ah, so the feature tracking is purely on actual tangible features.. hmm. I'd like to experiment a little more on 3D scanning in combination with owning a sticker plotter. Something I would try is to cut a bunch of different shapes in reflective film, to see if that helps with scanning and still be easily removable because it will be strips or larger shapes, instead of a bunch of dots that takes hours to peel off. And yeah, buying a windows laptop purely to use for scanning is really not an option. Those 2000 euro's i'd rather spend on a new engine hahaha. And also, running windows on my macbook is probably not going to work (because 2019 M1 processor) and I want something that just works out-of-the-box. I wish I had a sponsor....! 😅

[@Daniel_Martinez284]

How do you know that buying Einstar isn't a waste of money? 😒😒😒Hope you can cooperate happily with your Einstar using a lousy computer.

[@jeffharrison5265]

Nice review, but yea I really like my Einstar. Got to say I like that big turntable...that could be really handy. Thanks, Cheers.

[@marcsole1810]

Hello, very nice videos! I'm thinking of getting one of those (range 2 or Einstar) for a camping van project. Do you think it can handle a scan of the inside of a van? I want the scan as a basis for designing the furniture. Thanks!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I would recommend the Einstar over the Rang2 for that, but hold fire… new videos coming on new scanners…

[@luis7899]

David, Have you tried the Mini 2? Need a scanner for smaller items, (as I have an einstar already), but still unsure wether to go for the POP3 or Mini 2. Whats are your thoughts? TIA

[@ТопорищевКонстантин]

And what is about pair EinStar Shining vz Revopoint Range 2? Which is better for 3D scan of monuments and elements of art, like stucco?

[@vaderwalks6790]

I don't think a gimicky brand like Revopoint is going to ever top the Einstar. Just picked up an Einstar this morning and the MAIN thing Einstar has over the rest of the competition is the fact that it has a professional line of scanners because they're an "actual" scanner company so they know how to build one. All of these other brands like Revopoint, 3dmakerpro, creality, etc are just trying to ride the scanner wave by appealing to the casual person at home with a 3d printer since it's another "3d" product to have. Save up and get the Einstar because ultimately, buying cheap is the same as buying twice. And if you're serious about 3d work, then you will have a PC with the appropriate specs built to sustain the demand these things drive

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I get what you are saying, I’ve got more than enough PC for the Einstar, but if you are a casual and only have enough money for a POP3 or a Range then I get it, a scanner is better than no scanner…. They just need some patience…

[@katywalker8322]

Could you use something like a paint pen (something waster washable!) to draw a grid over the panel before scanning?

[@Gorilla_Jones]

The correct answer is Einstar. 😁 I make scans of large car parts with the Einstar and it's the best in the price range. My question is what is the best scanner for scanning small objects and detail. The Einstar isn't good at that. I need to scan buttons and knobs.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I was impressed with the POP3 for smaller stuff, I’m keeping that one. Heard good things about the Einscan SP but not had a play with one yet

[@Gorilla_Jones]

@@MakingforMotorsport thanks, maybe you can review it in the future. I need to scan dash panels from older cars and the Einstar hates the mounting points behind the dash. Too small. I'll look into the pop as well. Thanks.

[@Daniel_Martinez284]

small object I will use mini2, it's good

[@davehanna1540]

Just inside of cars, or panels as well?

[@johnmortimer7782]

If working outdoors and too bright would adding ND filters over the lens(s) help?

[@kenxchoi775]

How can you align the scan to x y z axis?do it manually or any program can calibrates?😮

[@fredmols8428]

David, Just asking... When will you make the Einstar, otter and raptor comparison video? Then I know if I will wait for it before my decision.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

POP3, Otter, Raptor and Einstar comparison is coming 👍👍👍

[@arthurtorricer4544]

is that a Neptune 4 max behind u next to x1c? I have a X1c and A1, snapmaker J1..now been watching your reviews on a scanner. my budget is $1,000 or less. Aloha , Mahalo for your videos

[@MakingforMotorsport]

That’s a decent collection you’ve got… and yep, I need to get stuck into the Nep4Max, the X1C is just too good

[@arthurtorricer4544]

maybe I'll wait for your review on range 2.. My 1st choice will be Einstar.. but don't want to drag my desktop into the garage or client's place.. if there is a laptop strong enough with the specs you mentioned with good ram and memory and graphics cards etc.. Laptop was easier to haul around. Ill watch your other reviews and pop3 etc..Im only got $1,000 USD to make 1 purchase 1 scanner only and I want it to be awesome.. lol Aloha and Mahalo for your videos..

[@MakingforMotorsport]

It’ll come, RevoPoint have said they will send one…. $1k will get you an Einstar, but if you don’t already have a PC with the minimum specs then you’ll need to upgrade… I ran below minimum specs for a while, a lower cpu means processing takes longer, a lower gpu means slower scanning and more tracking loses, and lower RAM limits the size of the scans you can take… pick your poison!

[@marty3469]

I just bought the Revopoint Inspire, seems ok tho haven't spent much time using it yet. Cost $575 au

[@phillyphil1513]

0:02 - BRING IT...!!! 🤙

[@tedk6954]

Wanna pick my first scanner for scanning clothes and faces. What would you recommend from all the consumer 3d scans out there? Awesome vids!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

The Range was absolutely the best at scanning people…. possibly the Range2 is even better but I’ve not tried it yet.

[@TheShorterboy]

so why not use painters tape instead of markers so you have linear features that cross so the scanner has edge and corner reference it can track and it's easy to remove

[@dream-bits]

Hi mate, if you could buy just one 3d scanner and have a budget for 3.000 dollars, which one would you buy? :D

[@CatCommando]

What about revopoint Miraco? seems its advertised for this kinda stuff, they scan a helicopter on the demo page?

[@MakingforMotorsport]

I’ve got one coming, don’t know when but I’m gonna have a play with it…

[@964cuplove]

Is there a macOS version of the software ?

[@skrunsthestreets]

Any plans to review the Revopoint Mini 2?

[@lifeisraph]

Wonderful content :) I loved it so very much :) Absolutely superb and great :)

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Cheers bud

[@fredmols8428]

@@MakingforMotorsport David, when will you make the Einstar, Otter and Raptor comparison video?

[@n00blike]

how is the Einstar in the sun/outside?

[@Wardy75]

What guitar is that in the background?

[@Keasbeysknight]

Staying hydrated

[@stevecarlisle3323]

What about the Mini 2 ? Thanks for all your efforts 😊🇨🇦

[@MakingforMotorsport]

RevoPoint haven’t sent me the Mini or Mini2. They said they were gonna send me the Range2 and Miraco…. But are holding it back for a software upgrade? 🤷‍♂️

[@stevecarlisle3323]

@@MakingforMotorsport Thanks, your making Great videos.😊🇨🇦

[@mrwolsy3696]

Somebody please use this on Ferrari F2004, upload the stl files for purchase.

[@Happyh0b0]

Let's go!!

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Cheers bud!

[@fcknhellmate]

Revo software crashes a lot on MacOS. Unfortunately I don't have windows laptop, so I resorted to phone scanning and it sorta works, but my experience with alignment feature is not that great.

[@Daniel_Martinez284]

Did you try to contact their customer service team for help? Last time l contacted them and they reply me in a short time.

[@windgod1979]

what do the work best? Shining3D EinStar 3D Scanner or revopoint not matter the money

[@MakingforMotorsport]

If moneys not an issue you wouldn’t buy either of them! But if you have a decent budget and you wanted to do mechanical items then the Einstar is best

[@windgod1979]

:) i dont want to give 3000eur but 1500eu is good to take one very good scannder i thing @@MakingforMotorsport

[@starfox_wr-45e93]

I requested this review too.. but I'd already bought one by now lol Still unused as of yet though. Have to admit, I was a bit disappointed at the results you got with the Range vs the Einstar.. But the realisation that with a few tricks posted here in the comments and elsewhere on youtube, plus the actual price difference in the two scanners means it's not as bad I first thought. I can get by with a little faffing around with pre-scan prep, some post processing and spending 1/4 of the £ 😁 Maybe I'll upgrade to the einstar and powerhouse laptop later. lol

[@MakingforMotorsport]

There are loads of tricks, but I try not to unleash them on review videos because it kinda skews results, if I just post the raw files then everyone gets a good idea of what can be (fairly) easily achieved. There’s no doubt tho with the application of more effort or time, the Range will still do a good job

[@starfox_wr-45e93]

@@MakingforMotorsport that's fair enough

[@nicobaicu]

lol, so get you! The markers kill the enthusiasm

[@MakingforMotorsport]

For a large field of view scanner, the geometry and texture tracking has to kick ass… and this… didnt

[@stevesloan6775]

Have you seen the new Creality Scan-Raptor? It has a seven beam blue laser and NIR hybrid set up. Suposibley it can scan objects from 5mm to 2000mm. It cost like US$1800… no real reviews as of yet. 🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼😎🍀☮️

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Hi Steve… just rounding out a review on the Ottter and the Raptor will be next after that…. If the Ottee is anything to go by the Raptor will be a beast…

[@stevesloan6775]

Oh you bloody beauty!! I was all in on buying an Einstar after watching your review. I was just about to pull the trigger, and then I seen the Raptor, but there’s no real reviews on it. Well there’s one review, if you could call it that. Man I can’t wait to see your review as I know you have such an extensive background using a good array of 3d scanners. I mean heck, laser scanners are usually $15,000.

[@MakingforMotorsport]

@stevesloan6775 right now the Otter is probably the better scanner than the Einstar tbh. The Raptor with the laser lines is no doubt amazing for the money but I worry it’s gonna be overkill for the home gamer and the NIR mode may suffer compared to Einstar and Otter…. Just waiting for Creality to sort a problem and I’ll be right on it! 👍

[@stevesloan6775]

It spins me out to hear you say the Otter is better than the Einstar. I think I might have to stop ignoring the reviews for the Otter scanner. Fingers crossed the Raptor has just as good if not better NIR scanning functionality, and the laser scanning takes it to the next level. I will be mainly using it for Motorsport. I could so use it right now, to help with some front suspension geometry, that I think is bent and twisted. I just picked up a new workstation that has dual 18 core Xeon’s and 384gig of 6 channel memory. It should be a beast for editing 3d scan data in ZBrush. Thank you so much for your awesome content….Very very inspirational to me. 🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼🍀☮️😎

[@stevesloan6775]

How are those Otter and Raptor reviews coming along? 😑 I’m chomping at the bit to hear your opinion. It feels like such a hard decision on which one to choose. From what I have seen the otter is wild at NIR feature mode.. the raptor looks to have half the field of view compared to the Otter. Looking forward to your input. Sorry I’m not trying to brake ya balls. 🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼🍀😎☮️

[@talljake]

I'd really like an Einstar, but you know... MONEY 😬

[@DiegoAstorga]

No, mate, I'm not buying this, I just bought a Pop3 right after watching your video. My wallet needs a break‼️😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Sorry for that… my wallet is feeling your pain!

[@longrangevolley425]

when are you making the bmw go faster

[@MakingforMotorsport]

Oh soon I hope. Got some 3D scanners to do first… (it gets the views and that gets the money…)

[@Moonrakerd]

interesting, pop2 sucks thats where einscan se just destroys it

[@davidgutnik]

I just returned the rage 2. It was crap

[@geertterharmsel]

spend less......