The Rig Veda - Indian Creation Myth

[@malganis2084]

The " one " refereed is not Male , it's genderless, source of the all reality , we call " Nirguna Brahman " in Vedas ( the supreme power, perfect and complete ) and Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva are just attributes ( Saguna Brahman )

[@Kncperseus]

It's the Source. It's Complete. It doesn't need anything. Perfection.

[@TheAnzamin]

@Mrinmoy Sarkar I'm not sure 'inactive' is the right term there. 'Potential' firs better the way I've always understood it.

[@cvenkat7766]

According to Hindu theology ' The Brahman ' is the Supreme and Eternal Entity' , from whom the entire universe is said to have originated . The various Gods being worshipped by Hindus are ' different manifestations' of that Supreme Entity called ' the Brahman '

[@MonkeyDHiroo]

Biased

[@peterp5889]

Exactly pure and perfect Brahmans is free from viruses of hormonal reactions and karma of gender...

[@aaronleperspicace1704]

The beautiful thing about this hymn is that it does not attempt to answer the questions, it just raises them. The hymn ends with a question, a sort of a cliffhanger. It drives home the fact that it is a mystery and that we will never know.

[@PeterBolland]

I agree. To my students, that is one of the most striking things about this hymn -- its agnosticism. It's such a stark contrast to the pedantic, strident tone of the creation accounts in Genesis.

[@Kishan31468]

The hymn is called "nasadya suktam. This hymn always makes me feel overwhelmed about my ancestors. Unfortunately today's Indians are becoming like organised religion. Asking questions was an important part of ancient Indian philosophy but today very limited people do so.

[@TheLYagAmi]

@@Kishan31468 there are still enough of us who are genuine seekers who question everything we can until we can find the answers or in the very least come to a higher understanding.

[@gudysuman9704]

These are mantras in 129th sukta of 10th mandala call nasdiya.. all 6 vedic philosophical school born from these 7 mantras.. you can find its all one.you can say it's all two and you can say it's all two in one.. Like a coin with heads and tails There is 1 heads 1tails so these 2 but 1 coin Again what's coin? Can coin exist without heads and tails? Can u separate both? Without messing a coin? So in the primordial there is endless things to know...But no body can know..If one can know they will be primordial 😀

[@saywhat6684]

Yes , Sanatan Dharma is not religion nor way of life , it's just philosophy of the old times curated by sages of that times. Bhagwan & their idols are just development to seek attention of people to the philosophy.

[@lee-wy9th]

The Rig Veda is much older than most think it is, before it was written, it was sung passed on orally. That's why it survived Alexander the great's religious Extinction campaign. When there is no foundation, no house of God/s can be torn down. Great video.

[@krishnasaisudarshan9825]

First of all, vedas are never written. There is an other name to vedas called shruthi. It means it is passed on orally to a specific st of generations of the rishis. In Hinduism we always believe in knowledge transmitted through the ears and nothing is recorded.

[@beingarya6697]

@The New Tsar Ofcourse not sir.Vedas are mentioned in Mahabharata which was around 5159 years old.Infact Vedas are mentioned in Ramayan,which is way way older than the Western theorists claim.

[@reenabhajanbela6647]

@@beingarya6697 you are right

[@vivekpmc1992]

Shruti and smriti (hearing and memorising and chanting with continuous practices). It's each and every syllables has to be very precise on chanting ..... Sanskrit language is not just writing and reading but listening too ( most of the language actually, but Sanskrit is very particular).

[@liveridge2696]

Alexander could only penetrate Gandhara and Kambuja, modern day Pakistan, Punjab and Gujarat, while Maghada, modern day UP and Bihar was the stronghold of the Indian dynasty, so Rig veda would not have perished easily.

[@ayanchakraborty3559]

These ancient sages didn't know about atom, planets, physics is a gross understatement. Fact of the matter is these sages knew earth was a sphere, mentioned about subatomic particles, knew about the solar system and it's planets and more. Something really weird was indeed going on in the past. May be the Vedas are much much older than we think. May be the so called sages were indeed scientists belonging to a very advanced ancient civilization. May be the knowledge was gifted to them by beings from other planets or planetary systems ( there are 14 planetary systems or catagories according to rig Veda). We so called modern humans have lost all our past knowledge and memories.

[@kumarnishit6994]

those sages who came up with these were self realised souls who had themselves realised the Brahman ( Indeed, they weren't any ordinary people, but people with tremendous mental capacity ) , They could easily see beyond the material world ( Maya, or this universe is just an illusion ( the Advait philosophy )) . Remember, India was heavily involved in conducting experiments on spirituality and solving the puzzle of existence when no other country was. One who has solved the "mystery of being", for them , explaining about the material world is quite easy. They won't need fancy gadgets , rather they can see these things like a myrobalan in the palm. And there have been such people in recent past as well, like Shankarcharya , RamKrishna Paramhans, Vivekananda, Sai Baba, etc

[@kumarnishit6994]

Also, "sages" is a bit vague term and it couldn't be used to generalise the ancient Indian learned people. For more info- kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoGlc5uLmr6qhtk

[@applejuice2970]

I think they might have been for precise about all the information but the info was lost to time and there are many scientists of ancient India we don't know

[@willygates]

Its all in the srimad bhagvatum

[@haiajwjajwwjajjajs6003]

Vaiseska school of thought of hinduism was started by Rishi kannada who discovered atom in 3 century bce

[@antriksX]

I am Hindu. But still I have to learn so many things which is written in our Vedas. Thankyou sir for these insights.

[@PeterBolland]

Thanks for watching and commenting. We ALL have so much more to learn. I know I do.

[@stalinsampras]

Are you a hindu? Can you tell what a Hindu is?

[@shiro6904]

@@stalinsampras hindus are the people lived near and east and south of the indus river, name given by persian people they can’t pronounce “sa” but “ha”. But now it’s widely used are religious term earlier it was geographical term

[@kumarnishant9428]

@@shiro6904 LOL

[@rvind000]

@@stalinsampras Originally everything that originated from Hind (Indian subcontinent) was called Hindu but after foreign invations it's association with religion & culture got more highlighted.

[@robertmitchell8630]

Lead me from the fear of finite to the realization of infinity Lead me from the fear of death to the realization of immortality. Lead me to the understanding I am birthless ,deathless and one with the one Vedas

[@sarojdash7210]

Really great lines brother.

[@TheLYagAmi]

This is what is played as music in the battle between neo and smith in matrix revolutions.

[@Vlog-hu8gb]

The problem with that translation is that there is no "lead me" in the actual verse. The actual word is "Gamaya" , which means "go me" not "lead me". Hinduism says you are manifestation of God, therefore there is no one outside to lead you, you yourself have to go there

[@varunkhugshal9049]

​@@Vlog-hu8gbyes, important correction

[@vinayakangle1677]

Being Indian, the Vedas are my heritage, my inheritance . It is only when I see the joy in Mr.Bolland's soul, when I see his eyes light up from within...as he 'ingests' the creation sukta, word by fascinating word, do I get introduced to the fact of how rich I am to be Indian ,and how 'beyond everything and nothing ' I am to be a part of the Brahman. Thank you, Mr. Bolland.

[@PeterBolland]

Dear Vinayak, I am very moved by your beautiful and eloquent comment. Thanks for making my day! I feel "seen." And your gratitude for your own remarkable culture is infectious!

[@saniyagamer-xd2oq]

भाई मेरी इंग्लिश थोड़ी कमजोर है ये भाई साहब हमारे वेदों के बारे में क्या विचार रखते हैं ये मुझे जरूर बताएं 🙏🙏🙏😭

[@t-seriesmoderator5246]

@@saniyagamer-xd2oq kuch kharaab nahi bola hai accha hi bola hai

[@vikramsinghrana7134]

@@saniyagamer-xd2oq pagla gaye ha ye parkar , soch rahe maine kyo nahi pehle ye sab Jan lia hota , inko samaj nahi a raha ki ma abhi tak kis mayajal Christianity me fasa tha jabki bharat me dusri hi duniya chal rahi .

[@saniyagamer-xd2oq]

@@vikramsinghrana7134 मतलब ये हमारे वेदों से प्रभावित हुए हैं या नहीं ?

[@ananths8828]

The He was added by English and western interpreters. In sanskrit it doesn't mention he or she. The one can also be what can be called singularity. All the Gods and the beings are said to be embodiment of the One. Brahman. The concept of Atoms called Anu is as old as the vedas.🙏🏻

[@theostapel]

Purusha - male principle - is always the Divine animating force. We are Prakriti - female principle - indeed matter. Fare thee well

[@srikanthm3341]

​@@theostapelpurusha is not male. It is that which has put on this whole manifestation or creation.

[@PeterBolland]

Hello everyone! I'm just popping in today, six months after shooting this video, to say thank you! Thanks for making this the number one video on my channel. (It's also the one with the most comments, most likes, and most thumbs-down. Ha!) Thank you especially to all the folks from India who have watched and commented on this video. Judging by all the negative thumbs-down and critical comments, there is clearly a cultural divide at work here. I made these videos for my 45 world mythology students here at Southwestern College in Chula Vista, just south of San Diego, California. I never realized that it would be viewed by thousands of people all over the world. In that class, we study "myths," which to us means "truths" -- ancient, poetic, metaphorical, symbolic stories that try to convey the ineffable, that try to say the unsayable. We study the Rig Veda alongside the Popul Vuh of the Mayans, the Enuma Elish of the Sumerians, the Pyramid Texts of the Egyptians, the Prose Edda of Norse mythology, the book of Genesis of the Judaeo-Christian tradition, and many more. That so many took umbrage at hearing the Rig Veda referred to as a "myth" caught me by surprise. To me, calling something a "myth" is high praise. So thank you to all of my critics on this thread for reminding me of the rich diversity of perspective in the world.

[@swatiranidas]

Totally understand this!

[@upadhyayrathiraj1518]

You obviously lack the depth to understand those lines of Rig Veda questioning the Creation and Creator. A much higher level of philosophy is needed. But for you: Just sit down, close your eyes and think "who created the Universe".

[@PeterBolland]

@@upadhyayrathiraj1518 Thanks for the love. 🙏🏼

[@atish3024]

@@PeterBolland Lot of Chinese pakistani bots pretending to be Hindu and defending hinduism vociferously.You have good hold over all religion should teach some good university.

[@akshaychauhan1464]

The starting line refers to the event before big bang. So before big bang there was nothing.

[@Goodwill345]

Hindu is all about enquiry, we question everything, we learn by questions

[@ganeshkumarchandrasekaran2182]

The hymn what you are explaining is in nasadiya suktham - Rig veda 10 th mandala ( chapter) . Thanks for explaining that in poetic way!! 🙏 From Tamil Nadu - India 🇮🇳

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you Ganeshkumar -- I appreciate it.

[@AnonymousNEETaspirant007]

Where can I find authentic vedas in sanskrit

[@buggieboi1988]

Who actually wrote rigveda?

[@Bhaskar_studies]

@@buggieboi1988 Ved Vyasa

[@obscurealm]

@@buggieboi1988 VEdas are Apaureshya, not of human origin, it is revealed to the Risis and Devatas in deep meditation. It wasnt written down initially, Veda vyasa compiled the Vedas into 4 parts.

[@shashidharabanurmallegowda6265]

Dear Peter Bolland -wonderful explanation about Rig Veda. What I liked most is that you are providing a highly intellectual explanation about our own tradition which makes me to feel proud about our own culture. You are really a un-official spokesperson of our ancient philosophy. Thank you.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you so much for your kind and gracious feedback. I'm just a humble student of the world's wisdom traditions who loves them all and is blessed enough to have found work teaching these ideas to college students and anyone else who will listen. I present all of my videos not as final answers but as guided inquiries. I so appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment.

[@navendusinghrathore6452]

It is very clearly mentioned in the Bhagavad-Gita in chapter 4 that Lord Krishna ( Vishnu ) is eternal. He was present before creation and will continue to exist even after the whole universe dies out.

[@ashsteepingtea]

But depending on which Hindu tradition one follows some Hindu's may believe otherwise. Hindu tradition is extremely diverse.

[@varunkhugshal9049]

Plus your interpretation is also of one kind, from sankya lens that's same translation will be of different kind.

[@deadster125]

It is also very clearly mentioned in other gitas as avdhut gita, astavakra gita, Shiv gita,iswar gita,devi gita, ganesh gita,adhyatma gita,anu gita, ajgar gita, bhikshu gita and etc. more than 30 I do not remember names of all of them So you have to accept that this scriptures are not false but actually true And if true Than you also accept that they are speaking from the atma dristi From the perspective of brahm, atma , parmatma Jai Shree Madhav

[@amitattafe]

Vishnu is name given. Other says Shiv some say them devta.

[@hsram1985]

@@amitattafe BrahmAn is oneness. Hindu gods are manifestation of BrahmAn.

[@AbhishekTiwari1111]

Sir, To interpret the Vedas it is very important to be acquainted with all the 6 Vedangas (limbs of Vedas) which are Vyakaran (Grammer), Shiksha (phonetics), Chhandas (Prosody), Kalpa (laws and rituals), Nirukta (etymology) and Jyotisha ( astronomy). These are the auxillary texts which a student have to pursue for 8 years in Gurukul and only then he could be able to understand the revealed verses of Vedas. Vedas are strictly monotheistic and tells us that Almighty God has an absolute authority over universe. There are so many misconceptions about Vedas which were spread by Western scholars who didn't understand it and have presented a false translation of it. In Vedas there is no histories, references of any geographical area or name of person, it is a very scientific and rational approach of nature, how universe created, works and the guidance regarding human conducts. We Aryan belief that God's word can never be associated to any particular area, group of people or race like that in Bible, God's words must be free from transient affiliations and must be available since the beginning of the humanity. There are 100 names of God like Agni, Marut, Prajapati, Rudra, Vishnu, Indra etc all these are qualitative names of God, while the most proper name of God is OM (ओ३म्). If you wants to learn about Vedas then read the book Satyarth Prakash by Mahrishi Dayanand Saraswati the most renowned and brilliant vedic scholar of modern era who lived in 19th Century. Today's modern science tells us that the string is the smallest matter by which the quarks are made then sub atomic particles and then the atom. But Aitreya Brahman (commentary of Rig Vedas) explains that the creation of string (Rashmi in sanskrit) is the fifth stage of creation before strings God had 4 matters prior to the string. Acharya Agnivart Naishtik is a vedic scientist who has published his work in 4 volume name 'Ved Vigyan Alok', it is commentary of Aitreya Brahman and deals with the creation of matters and the Universe.

[@josephpotter2844]

Boom ,thanks for the information

[@meghalodhi7465]

Hello can you tell me numerology is true or not ?? ...Vedic numerology,life path and all

[@imneverwrongsometimestruthlies]

Exactly 🙏🙏 The west want it easy, here and now without penance, sacrifice and chastity Can understand it cz they've been doing things with just a mere book ie the Bible which is very authoritative and commanding and they've been acting accordingly suppressing a key human primal urge ie to question why, how and what but alas they have been taught to never question the rhetoric in the Bible ..

[@Himanshu_kld]

Yes bro, in the video he explained wrong. Without understanding the full meaning of that mantra of Nasasdiya Sukta

[@xp_money7847]

The rig vedas are not monotheisric but panentheistic. Monotheism means a God who is in 7th heaven and who creates the world. The Nasadya sukta rejects any such God, and even if there is, he may or may not know about Yhe One

[@souravmisra4080]

6:21 "male pronoun creeps in." Well in Sanskrit, the Verb form is independent of gender of the doer. And you don't need to explicitly say the doer in a sentence. For example, in English you say, He created the universe. In Sanskrit apart from the above way you can also write, (Someone) Created the universe. That's why, Vaishavaites believe it is Lord Narayan (Krishna), Shaivaits believe it's Lord Shiva and Shaktyas believe it's Devi Shakti who is the all souce of everything. These are three main division in Hinduism and Devi Shakti is female. So, the translation was creepy and sexist but not the original Vedic Sanskrit text. This is another difference between genesis and Hindu thought of creation. But good things about Hindu culture is that you are allowed to interpret things in your way and would not be considered as sexist even if you choose it as 'He'.

[@PeterBolland]

In my full-length classroom teaching, we always clarify all of this, as you have done here. English translations, or any translations of any ancient text (or contemporary text for that matter) always leaves much to be desired. All kinds of distortion and error creeps in. Even in their original language form, all texts fall short of the truth they are trying to convey. Translation is just another layer of distortion. The way past all of this, in my view, is to read texts imaginatively, not too literally. Go for the suggestions, not the declarations. Thanks again for watching and commenting.

[@s.u.s.h.a.n.t9413]

How can you say it is okay to interpret things as you like if the text suggests something specific in the matter ?? I think correct interpretation has to be made of the source it's from... And If the scripture confuses you rather than revealing answer in any clear form then.. it is vital and wise option to question the authority of the source and even more essential to want to know where does the scripture come from..... Don't you think so? 🤔.. On the side note, you may feel my message as straight hate or confrontation to you but, I myself am a seeker and I'm on the quest of investigating the creation mystery. Truly, this is just my curiously ignited question upon your presented comment on choose what you like !!

[@rahulreddy2163]

@@PeterBolland you cant interpret the wrong translation and say its okay. It's like saying i followed the big sheep because i dont now how to take a pead because I'm sheep🐏. There are actual sanskrit pandits who need to review whether it matches the standards else cant be appropriatedand call it myth. It has lot of education meanwhile abrahamic religions just say your siner, lol

[@AlchemistFL]

What translated book are you reading this from? Would love to read the Rig Veda in depth and in a way that makes sense

[@PeterBolland]

I'm reading from Philip Novak's wonderful anthology "The World's Wisdom." Here's the citation he gives for the passage I read in the video: Rig-Veda X: 129: 1-4, 6-7. A. L. Basham, "The Wonder That Was India" (London, 1954), 247-48, quoted in Eliade, ed., "Essential Sacred Writings," 109-10. It really is a wonderful book. I use it in my world religions classes. www.amazon.com/Worlds-Wisdom-Sacred-Texts-Religions/dp/0060663421

[@HVS2328]

The Nāsadīya Sūkta, also known as the Hymn of Creation, is the 129th hymn of the 10th mandala of the Rig-Veda (10:129). It is concerned with cosmology and the origin of Universe.

[@deepankarchakraborty236]

@@HVS2328 thanks for the clarification

[@swatiranidas]

@@HVS2328 Glad to know ! Are you a scholar of Indian scriptures?

[@HVS2328]

@@deepankarchakraborty236 Welcome bhai 🙏

[@ishansharmaalduin]

The he pronoun creeps in because of the translation, where as the actual sanskrit verse doesn't dignify such. The sanskrit pronoun more likely relates to infinite rather than a gender. But translation 🤷‍♂️

[@harikareddy4000]

this! exactly this!! The pronoun changes everything!

[@souravmisra4080]

Exactly

[@aaronleperspicace1704]

Sorry, but the word used in the text is "sa". Which does mean "he" in sanskrit. Translation is not wrong.

[@abhijitkurse53]

@@aaronleperspicace1704 there's a difference between translation and connotation. In readings of poetry, this is important. So translation is not wrong, but doesn't give thr complete picture by itself.

[@nickhedge9118]

@@aaronleperspicace1704 see…..this is how primitive u westerns r

[@Cedricknowledge]

Of all cultural knowledge of creation the rig vedas makes more sense to me. It feels like I'm in the right place to learn.

[@PeterBolland]

I'm with you. As creation or emergence accounts go, my gut tells me this one gets the closest to right. But I love the Popul Vuh best for sheer narrative power.

[@Primus_suspectus]

"The One" refers to the primordial consciousness which nobody seems to know what it's about

[@harikareddy4000]

and is genderless\bodyless

[@CYNIC75]

@@harikareddy4000 then why is Brahman referred as a he not it or she.

[@harikareddy4000]

@@CYNIC75 lost in translations. allah is supposedly genderless too but is referred to as a 'he'.

[@CYNIC75]

@@harikareddy4000 brahma word is genderless according to Upanishads,Brahman reference to vedas is not gender neutral it is refered as him in many hymns .Don't let secular people make him gender fluid its free Masonic agenda and swami vivekananda played a huge role in it.

[@bharatrams1]

@@CYNIC75 The Vedas refer to Brahman in neuter also as That. Normally Brahman is referred to as He when explaining the Static Presence, Unmoving Consciousness. As it moves into creation, it is the Shakthi aspect, feminine aspect that gives birth to the creation as She-The Divine Mother.

[@upadhyayrathiraj1518]

Rig Veda mentions Saraswati River flowing in all its glory. Now it is up to you western scientists to estimate the time when Saraswati finally dried up and vanished, and then calculate the age of this Veda. I think 15,000 to 20,000 years BC would be a better estimate. Max Mueller, who said that this Veda was 1,200 years BC, later retreated from his own words and accepted his arbitrary dating.

[@rohink9266]

This is one of the finest videos on Rig Veda I have come across...Very well explained...

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you Robin! 🙏🏼

[@bhuvaneshwarimg4231]

The vedas are much older than believed . In _Bhagvad Gita_ (a part of Mahabharata, where Krishna, a divine being imparts the truth of the world), the four vedas were mentioned. Since the _Bhagvad Gita_ was narrated in 3237 BC, the four vedas must have already existed before 3237 BC.

[@ruderakshakarwa6333]

Stop spreading false info. It was compiled between 3rd century ce to 3rd century ad. Not older than that.

[@cracked8349]

​@@ruderakshakarwa6333he is talking about the actual war mentioned in Mahabharata

[@UwUO-OUwU]

The 4 mahavakya mentioned in the 4 Vedas that captures the essence of all Vedas are; Prajnanam Brahma ( The consciousness is Universe/everything) Ayam Atma Brahma (This self is Brahman/everything) Aham Brahmasmi ( I am brahman/divine/universal) Tatvamasi( I am that/absolute, Or you are everything) The unity of one with the entirety of cosmos is the essence of all Vedic traditions( be it Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism)

[@sujathashanker8404]

So beautifully explained. Thank you! The wisdom from thousands of years ago is still relevant in today's research and an invitation into inquiry :)

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you Sujatha.

[@fake1always555]

Those gods which work here are like angels of christianity and islam which hold high positions Whereas brahm who is the ultimate reality he existed before everything

[@debajyotisamadder9966]

Not actually. The deities are the manifestation of different tatwas or energys. And with their power onlybthe universe is functioning, but in other hand Bramhan is just THE ONE, it is neither good nor bad, neither a thing nor nothing, neither dead nor alive. And you can't even worship Brahman.

[@shrishampriyadarshi4824]

There is a mention of River Saraswati in the Rig Veda in several holy hymns; in there it has been described as a river which flows with a loud roar and which causes heavy floods in the area. Archeological studies indicate that River Saraswati started to dry up nearly 6500 years ago and had eventually dried up by around 2000 BCE. This clearly indicates that Rig Veda had been written at least around 5000 to 6000 years ago. Also to be known that the holy hymns and songs of praise have been passed down from one generation to the next orally; before those songs and praises were actually compiled up and written down. I personally am fond of such resourceful contents related to the earliest documented steps of mankind. It really helps to understand the philosophical and existential outlooks and ways of our ancient ancestors. I shall request you to kindly make a video on The Core Similarities between the Sindhu/Indus Valley Civilization and the Egyptian Civilization;

[@PeterBolland]

Hi Shrisham, thanks for watching and thanks for commenting. The art of writing was invented about 3,000 BCE -- that's when we see the first existence of any written texts. There are no written texts older than that. The Vedas, of course, existed as oral tradition for many centuries or millennia before that -- that's the challenge. The dates I give in the video are the date of it being written down. And here's another wrinkle -- and this is true of ancient texts all over the world -- they were hand-duplicated generation after generation and they evolved through each transcription. New material is being added all the time. This is why it's so difficult and challenging to talk definitively about origins. I'm afraid it's all just lost to the mists of pre-history. The important part is what these texts say, not arguments about how old they are.

[@shrishampriyadarshi4824]

I absolutely understand your words Sir. Its more important to instill their philosophies and teachings in our hearts and souls in order to achieve a more refined form of human-consciousness. All ancient civilizations and their respective texts and scriptures portray their own interpretations of this same cosmic space that existed around each one of them - and we, as their descendants, should focus on leading a holistic life - based on their teachings and descriptions; a life that involves a sense of greater good for all.

[@RG-un2vl]

The dating of rigveda is not that lost in the mists of prehistory.The irony is that actual rigvedic content is the mostly ignored in discussions of the text itself by calling it mythical so as to justify it's wrong dating in the 19th century..This video dates rigveda to 700bc in the written form?Oriental dating of it's composition is 1500 bc.Unfortunately neither of these dates are correct.Unless of course it was just to give a plausible answer to the previous question.There is no written Rigveda that old and there is ample evidence,both descriptive and scientific, of it's 'composition' being at least 7-8 thousand years old.So either way both dates 1500 bc and 700 bc are wrong.And it is important for the descendants of the land that a scientific academic study (with dating) be done for these precious texts along with appreciating it's wisdom.Just like it's done for religious texts around the world.

[@Himanshu_kld]

​@@RG-un2vl yamuna and ganga is the common name of every name of river which flows from the mountain. Vedas do not contain any history, and geographical position.

[@ishaanrohmetra3447]

@@Himanshu_kld they do contain geographical postions as the text where it was written or compiled have geographical info,

[@robertmitchell8630]

Village priests may open their temple ceremonies with the following beloved invocation: O Lord, forgive three sins that are due to my human limitations: Thou art everywhere, but I worship thee here; Thou art without form, but I worship thee in these forms; Thou needest no praise, yet I offer thee these prayers and salutations; Lord, forgive three sins that are due to my human limitations.

[@PeterBolland]

Wonderful! Thank you.

[@robertmitchell8630]

@@PeterBolland Spinoza did study Eastern philosophy The spinoza God, prompting enistein Did "God" had a choice in creating this universe. Enistein when asked if he believes in God Replied I believe in Spinoza God ,who reveal himself In the lawful Harmony of the universe not in a God concern with the fate and doing of man Oh Arjuna just as the SUN that sheds light on everything we see isn't affected by malaise of the eyes , so too Oh Arjuna I (Sri Bhagwan Krishna) am not affected by the wickedness of men Bhagvad Gita

[@indianmilitary]

@@robertmitchell8630 It also means "Tat Tvam Asi'' meaning - You (conscious and immanent athma or the soul) are (already) that (conscious, transcendent and omnipresent divine) regardless of whether you realize it or not because without the conscious, immanent and omnipresent athma or divine nothing can exist. Identification with thoughts and body is just an illusion because the 5 senses are experienced by the athma or soul and it is NOT the doer. Conscious and omnipresent athma or soul is like a silk thread which goes through different pearls (animate and inanimate) if you think in terms of an analogy. Consciousness is an attribute of the immanent and omnipresent athma or the divine just like heat is an attribute of fire and the sun.

[@premprasad3511]

During the scientific revolution of the 20th century, western scientists armed as were with their new insights and methods to explore some of the most baffling questions of the universe with the advent of quantum mechanics and relativity , became brazenly contemptuous and dismissive of the Abrahamic ideas of creationism. However when they encountered the vedas -nothing in their world view had prepared them to deal with the ideas like the Nasadiya Sukta contained in the vedas. They found it impossible to fathom that the Scientific Method that they cherished and believed was purely a result of western scientific revolutions and contestations against the church, were actually enshrined in the scriptures of the vedanta thousands of years ago !! Quantum mpioneer Erwin Schrodinger was so fascinated that he developed a life long obsession with the metaphysics of the vedanta

[@ocs748]

Hearing you was the an emotional experience, where the profound mantras of the Rishis was so eloquently conveyed. I am not able to convey in words the effect your presentation had.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you so much for your kind feedback. I make these videos because this stuff is beautiful and it matters to me. I want more people to experience the power of these ancient insights. Thank you so much for understanding that and seeing it.

[@VaibhavTolani]

Pagan culture Shudra - One who thinks just about himself Vaishya - One who only thinks about his family Kshatriya - One who thinks about the Nation Bhramin - One who thinks about the entire cosmos (Brahaman)

[@mylaramravindernath5711]

This is a very accurate spiritual interpretation.thank you sir.

[@maku8075]

It's sad that once you learn Sanskrit and realised the English translated books you read were translated pretty badly. And also the joy of reading the text in sanskrit.

[@Learnwithme-s3K]

You need to understand it's not that easy to imagine the creation of universe when even nothing was also not existing 🕉️🚩🇮🇳

[@Calibrating_Consciousness]

Max Muller believed in the Biblical creation, and calculated the age of the Vedas as follows . He assumed the creation to have taken place on October 23, 4004 B.C., and then using the biblical chronology the deluge is placed in the year 2448 B.C. He granted a thousand years for the floods to subside, thus arriving at 1400 B.C. for the Aryan invasion of India. He allowed 200 years as the time to get familiar with the new home, thus calculating 1200 B.C. as the date for the composition of the Vedas. Of course he did not provide this reasoning for his dating of the Vedas to general public, but worked backwards to give the same chronology he had already calculated. He fixed 600 B.C. for the date of Buddha, allotted 200 years each for the Chhandas, Mantra and Brāhmaṇa periods. Thus Brāhmaṇas were composed during 800-600 B.C., Mantra portion of the Vedas was composed during 1000-800 B.C. and Chhandas portion of the Vedas (e.g. Ṛgveda) was composed during 1200-1000 B.C. Obviously there is no scientific reason as to why it should take only 200 years each and not 500 or 1000 years for the composition of the Chhandas, Mantras and Brāhmaṇas. Later Max Muller disowned his chronology and said that no power on earth can determine when the Vedas were written. Vedic Physics book Raja Ram Mohan Roy

[@PeterBolland]

This is a really important perspective, and I'm so glad you shared it here. This is exactly how distorted the dating process is. And the whole process of dating the Vedas is corrupted by Imperialism and Christian hegemony. As a teacher of world religions and mythology I generally stay out of such controversies, leaving it to those with more expertise than me. I'm perfectly content not knowing the origin dates of anything. As Nietzsche warned us, when you go looking for the origins of anything, you end up simply projecting your own unconscious bias onto the process rendering any assertions dubious.

[@Calibrating_Consciousness]

@@PeterBolland Sir can you suggest any book on vedas with english translation

[@PeterBolland]

@@Calibrating_Consciousness I have this one. I don't "love" it, but I like it better than some others I've seen. www.amazon.com/Vedas-Samhitas-Atharva-single-unabridged/dp/1541294718/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2D34BCTOPGK5Y&dchild=1&keywords=rig+veda&qid=1609259431&sprefix=rig+veda%2Caps%2C213&sr=8-3

[@omthakkar7801]

@@Calibrating_Consciousness yes, you can refer to Dr. tulsi Ram's English Translation! You can download it from @Esamidha group on telegram...... There are many great books there too!!

[@richiknair9036]

There's so much in these scriptures, you might go insane when you realize how scientific and philosophical it is

[@OpenRecords]

I think the English translation is a bit at fault here. What is the word for "gods" used? Because if it's devas, then that can denote "demigods", but the "one" can be absolute truth/brahman/god.

[@jack-mo9pl]

I was Christian but right I m hindu because of the beauty of hindu Vedas and scriptures.. Any religion can't give the actual knowledge about the god

[@user-lp9vz6lu3t]

God is a tool , goal is moksha -nirvana

[@bhuvaneshwarimg4231]

Almost every term in Science today like gravity, Atom etc was discovered and researched deeply on by ancient Indian scholars, and sages. Atom was called Anu, and Gravity was described such that Earth had a tendency to attract objects toward itself, thus defining gravity.

[@indianmilitary]

Is Vedic idea of gravity push or pull?

[@erichhere]

@@indianmilitary verse from Rg Veda [10.149. 1] details the heliocentric model of our solar system and describes gravity using the analogy of a horse trainer saying that the sun holds the planets in orbit, just as a trainer would train horses by making it run in circles (orbits) using a leash (gravity). Gurutvakarshana(gravity) is pulling force.

[@cpadman5800]

Beautiful presentation of the creation myth from the Rig Veda. The Nasadiya Sukta also known as the Hymn of Creation is the 129 the hymn of the 10 the mandala of the Rig Veda. It is connected with cosmology and the origin of the universe. This verse is one of the most widely quoted portions of the Rig Veda. Astronomer Carl Sagan quoted it in discussing India's "tradition of skeptical questioning and unselfconscious humility before the great cosmic mysteries.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you so much for watching and for your supportive comments.

[@dr.ashkad4964]

Rig veda has astronomical and geological references that predate 1800bc ... I e When Saraswati river dried up.... Veda mean true knowledge , it is what the original gods/creators passed down to lower creatures, which were realized under deep meditation to understand the ONE.. it is again explained by Krishna in the Bhagwad Geeta

[@prakharranjan6388]

Beautiful analysis of the Rig Veda. While I see that many have commented on the origin and translation/transliteration, it is pleasing to see someone appreciate all the bounties of the ancient cultures of the world. The Vedas being one, are the foundations of Sanatana Dharma in India. As we discuss more, we let the knowledge come from all directions, just as the ancients intended. Looking forward to more discourses and discussions. Kudos!

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you so much Prakhar for your generous words.

[@TeddyChed]

You most know Frank Morales and Dharma Nation since you used the term Santana Dharma.

[@Grogueman]

Wise words.

[@sn59826]

What a captivating lecture! You take the listeners on a flight of imagination and inquiry, as though towards the source of thought. I felt like I was 18 (thought I'm decades removed from that) listening to a great lecture in college. How fortunate must your students be! I wish I had ones like you teaching each of the subjects that I studied.

[@706aayush]

Yes.for space is distance between 2 or more objects.when there is no 2 that's is ,no duality ,so there is no space. Also time means an interval between 2 events,for example sunrise and sunset.but even time had not begin by then.Because events were altogether absent

[@kadlubom]

And what about the general relativity and what it claims that spacetime is a very concrete thing that can be bend (thus thus gravity)?

[@devidaughter7782]

I'm currently working on a video about the Great Creatrix Goddess Aditi of the Rig Veda, who is perhaps the earliest name of 'god'/ 'the One'/ the progenitor of the cosmos.

[@rahulbetgeri]

Excellent video! For those interested, this is “Nasadiaya Sukta” Rig Veda Mandala 10:129… and the more I read it, the more I feel that it’s trying to describe Big Bang Theory… or maybe it’s my mind that is ascribing! Some of the portions like “the one… enclosed in nothing… born or power of heat” absolutely nail the current scientific view of how universe began from stage of extremely hot primordial soup when there was nothing! And then “nor was there the torch of night and day”, for millions of years of cosmic expansion there was no light then first stars and galaxies formed then came everything else!

[@indianmilitary]

"soup" or "no soup" Big Bang theory does NOT even scratch the surface of profound Sankhya Vedic metaphysics around which the whole hindu/dharmic tradition was built including yoga and tantra. Big Bang scientists talk about "god particle. There is no god particle

[@anirudh177]

@@indianmilitary you sound arrogant.

[@anirudh177]

@@indianmilitary bruh what does Big Bang theory have to do with Philosophy? Big bang is Astronomy, Sankhya/Vedanta etc are philosophy.

[@lalitasharma6687]

6:37 or maybe even it doesn't even know means there are chance that brahman even doesn't know

[@moespaghetticonfetti5041]

Please, please tell me some more of what's in the rig veda. I really enjoyed your teaching. I want to learn more about the Rig Veda.

[@PeterBolland]

Hi Moe, thanks for the kind feedback. I'm afraid I don't have any special insights into the Rig Veda, so there's not much I can offer you on that specific text. But take a look at some of the other playlists on my channel's home page -- you're sure to find more to your liking there.

[@AK-db2ph]

In later vedic text i.e Upnishads they defined it as "Brahman" it is the ultimate source of creation. For hindus there is no heaven or hell our ultimate goal is to escape the cycle of birth and become the part of that ultimate source of creation(Brahman).

[@bharatrams1]

The movement from the One to the many, from the Infinite to finites, is a movement of Bliss(Ananda), the One inhabits and enjoys the play, it is not by Will, but for the enjoyment the play is played.

[@ishankejriwal7001]

There are two ways to learn. The Knowledge Way and the Wisdom Way. The knowledge way, needs experimentation with equipments, for objective ends. The wisdom way is experimenting (rather observing) within to realisation end. With knowledge, we can add 2 and 2. With wisdom, we feel the need of creating the 0 (zero) because we realise that something is missing from the maths. Further, the knowledge part alone may bring destruction (Einstein's e=mc2 was the base for the creation of the Atomic Bomb) That is why in Genesis, God punishes Adam & Eve for eating from the Tree of Knowledge. Because knowledge without wisdom is often rather destructive. If there is a God, he would not punish his children this harshly, just because they disobeyed him. The harsh punishment begs the question why did he deny them to eat from the tree in the first place? That may be because he knew humans were not prepared to consume the knowledge. They weren't wise enough. I think, we still aren't. In Hinduism, the emphasis has always been on attaining the wisdom. Once you are wise enough, you are welcome to eat from the Tree of Knowledge. Feast on it. The text aligns with modern astrophysics because it was indeed derived from science. However, the science and mathematics texts, in the long span of time, natural calamities, foreign invasions, etc. got destroyed and/or lost. But the poetry part retained as it was learned and taught orally and passed through generations, until someone again penned them. Ved Vyasa is the complier, not the write/creator. Nobody is sure who wrote them. It's that old. But most of the Vedas and Upanishads are based on objective science. We just need to decode the ancient language. One of the greatest astrophysicist of our times, Prof. Carl Sagan, an atheist, also believed that out of all the ancient cultures, the Hindus were the most scientific. The ancient Hindus did have scientific tools, just different from the ones we have now.

[@animax1034]

I dont agree with genesis, beginning cant be part of singulairty, because when it says "in the beginning" and that means genesis says there was a beginning but in Hinduism there is no beginning infact beginning and ending is the part of duality, so the singularity(Brahman) has to be beginningless and endless, so gensis is wrong in it's first sentence, but Rig Vedas say "Then" which is nor beginning nor end it means like it always existed but because rig veda is being translated in english which is not the best language in terms of understanding and translation sucks and losses it's real meaning, understaning of sanscrit language is necessary to 100% understand what it is realing saying and meaning. Vedas are much older then we think it is, 5561 BCE when Krishan was here even then Vedas was so ancient that it almost went extinct, but Krishna revived it before that, Rama revived it around 12,209 BCE which actually came from Lord Shiva who never aged never born and never died he is the manifestation of almighty eternal brahman in Human form in duality and his wife is half part of him which is necessary for brahman (the conscious singulairty) to manifest in duality to enjoy the duality created by themself. the symbol of Brahman is Om OM NAMAH SHIVAY

[@lokeshkumar18]

Hey, I'm not a Sanskrit expert but from what I've learnt and based on my broader understanding of Hindu philosophy, "he" only comes up here in the English translation. The original Sanskrit version does not seem gendered.

[@Arasa왕]

RIG Vedic gods are not mordern Hindu gods. These puranas were written by bhramins after 8th century AD when Adhisangaracharya integrated 8 diff Tamil religions under bhraminism as Shanmarga which is also called as "Shanadhan" by bhramins. Before that north Indians were Advita Vedhanta followers. They were Jains, Buddhists and had other pagan worshiping cultures. #Source - Sadhapadha pramana, the oldest text in sanskrit which explains Rig Veda and its slogas. Rig vedic gods ~> #Agni - Fire God. All powerful and supreme God of vedas. #Rudra - Not Shiva but a lower tier God who serves agni. No thirisool (not the husband of Parvati), has a long powerful bow and a lighting weapon . #Devan - not Indira of mordern Hinduism. He is just an angel (Deva) below Rudra. No Vajrayudha, no lighting bolt nor the king of heaven. Rig vedha states he is an expert in destroying castles and houses. #Ganapathi - pronounced as Janapathi. Means leader of mass of people or tribe. Rig vedha never states in any slogas that he is an elephant headed God. But rather he is described as a human and leader. #Vishnu - Finally one of biggest misconception that vedic Vishnu is Thirumal of South Indian Tamil culture. No they're are not same. "Thiru" means highness, "Mal"mesns black in Tamil. Many Chola king had the tittle" Mal behind their name. Rig vedic Vishnu have no Paarkadal nor that he lays down on snake. He is not the husband of lakhsmi. Rig vedic Vishu is a (deva) angel like indhra but comes under low ranking Deva than indra. In which sanskrit denotes as "Uba devas". He have no chackrayudha nor anything of Tamil vainavam Thirumal. #Mithras - I think all educated people know Mithras is an European Aryan God . So No need to explain anything about him. But his characters are related to lord Krishna in mordern Hinduism. #Krishna - not God krishna but rig veda states Krishnas in plural form to denote black skin people. There's no dwaraka, no avatar of Vishnu. Just native black people whom Aryans destroyed their houses and captivate their region. (Most importantly, rig veda states when they defeated the natives lived near Indus region. They captured some of the people, women, children and elders. Rig veda states that they destroyed their sruthi in fire "meaning their native literature and written scripts". Why did they used sruti (sound) to denote writing scripts? Because when the time Aryans came to fallen Indus civilization their language had no written form only oral, that's why bhramins were practicing veda orally. Even the mordern Indian language scripts and ancient Prakrit Bhrami originated from Tamili script. So they destroyed native languages written document in palm leaves. This is proved again by Rig veda itself. So why sruti? Because libi is an Iranian word to denote writing script which bhramins adopted in later years. Before that they had no knowledge of how to write.) So the natives of Indus valley people lived there even after the fall. Those were the people aryans mixed with. Dravida means south Indian bhramins not Tamils.

[@PeterBolland]

Krish, it's fasinating isn't it how gods evolve. What you describe reminds me a little of the evolution of the ancient Greek gods into Roman goda, now the Romans borrowed all the Greek gods and changed nearly all their names (and some of their qualities and characteristics). Ares becomes Mars, Aphrodite becomes Venus, and so on. Just as Rudra becomes Shiva. The human imagination and deep need for mythology is infinite.

[@Arasa왕]

@@PeterBolland 😊🙏first of Vanakam from Tamil Nadu sir. Your contents are highly informative. Yes sir, as humans we take inspiration from various cultures. And eventually years pass and future generations creates propagandas over the lost meaning. So new religions and mythology born. What's tragic is we humans forgot our humanity in the meanwhile when we are blinded by such belifes. However we cannot insult anyone's belief. 😊Rather we can explain how everything transformed. In India religion is the biggest politics sir. In Tamil the oldest empire is the Pandiya empire, our first Pandiya king name is Siva. Traditionally in the lost religion of Tamil Aasivagam Siddha (system scientists of ancient era) preached medicine, and yoga for fitness. And those who attained samathi state are called "Siva nilai " to quit their life. Such old monks were worshiped as ancestral gods. So there were lot of sivas in Siddha tradition. But only Sivan who was Pandiya king said to be started this tradition. So in later years migrated aryans had a situation to adopt other culture. That's why bhramin must have related their gods with local people's God . Tamils have been trading with Europeans for many years even before the northern Mauryans empire. So we all as humans are globally connected even during the era when we had no Tele-communication. Kind of fascinating yes. There are lot of King Augustus's coins found in South India. Some small world with big minds of humans.

[@Arasa왕]

@@PeterBolland one more relation is that both Ares and lord Muruga are said to be war God sir. Somehow a Ram represents Aries zodiac, and Indian male goat is a symbol of lord Muruga in Hinduism. Such similarities among European zodiac and Indian culture is also one more thing to consider. Because these migh not be relatable unless there were a strong trade connection. Of course there were small villages specifically allocated for foreign traders in Tamil Nadu as Yavana cheri (we called Europeans as Yavanar sir) 😊. So these cultures have been a mural inspiration. And one of the thing that separates North and South Indian culture is this Tamil vs Aryan roots.

[@dharmrakshak6735]

@@Arasa왕 another Dravidian supremacist

[@Zeno_334]

The sages and seers of ancient India could analyze and decipher the mysteries of the universe with relative accuracy more than five thousand years ago because those thinkers existed in a certain cultural context and society that allowed debate unmolested and unconstrained by dogma and a society that encouraged and appreciated thinkers, provided those philosophers the space to apply reason in the pursuit of truth and only truth.

[@PeloquinDavid]

The early readings here really do remind me of the kinds of descriptions theoretical cosmologists have come up with in relation to the "Big Bang"/"Inflation" and the evolution of the early universe. I have often wondered about whether out knowledge of the physical universe has advanced all that much from what echoes down to us from the Vedas and other early cosmological mythologies.

[@PeterBolland]

I share your take on this David. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@vikass5859]

Love the passion with which you commented. Sorry, but @ 12:15 your Ignorance & stereotyping kicks in "They didn't know Big-bang theory, telescopes, particle accelerators, atoms, solar systems, galaxies, electrons..." I wouldn't dare make such a comment if I could gauge the intelligence of writers of Vedas. It's interesting how West thinks these ideas, findings (atoms, electrons, galaxies etc...) are from west - they are not. Rig Veda goes far beyond 3000-4000 years - these numbers are again western making. If Galileo created Telescope, how did Indians worship Navagraha -9 planets before that? For the listeners - please note the content is coming through various filters: The Truth > Observer> Rig Vedic Writer > Interpreter > Book writer > Change of language > Change of times > Orator > Orator's interpretation > orators level of knowledge/biases > Listener's mindset > listeners level of knowledge/biases. All issue aside, your passion will overcome ignorance. :-)

[@iloveatish]

As you explained Peter, this set of verses sets the tone of the Indian belief system. Essentially, we are a country of seekers with the belief that our existence is filled with limitless possibilities because 'we don't know'. This itself is a limitless possibility. Imagine if humanity said the universe would move per the laws of Newton and no one else is allowed, then poor Einstein would have to go back to becoming a patent clerk. The essence of being Indian is that we are always open to the idea that there may be something else that is 'possible'. This is also the reason that India is open to new religions and even new gods. For example , India welcomed the Zoroastrians when they were chased out of Persia due to Islamic persecution( hints at the origin of the word). India also welcomed Hitler's jews when no one else would. All this stems from the art of the possible.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you Atish for your beautiful comment! 🙏🏼

[@iloveatish]

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[@climbeverest]

Just like Greece bears no semblance of the genius of Socrates, Aristotle and other scholars, in India of today you will not see the wisdom of Hinduism, instead they emulate the intolerance of other Abrahamic religions, so all that wisdom has been lost and is only in the “scriptures”.

[@ruthnaswamy4741]

The few parchments of the oldest Rig Veda are in the Bhandarkar Research Institute, it has been dated around 1464 CE

[@AshwinAttawar]

Its interesting that the Vedas, and its Gnyana Kanda's (Aranyakas, Upanishads) emphasize only THE ONE, later Brahman, as being the only Ultimate Reality.. The only object of our Vedic pursuit towards MOKSH/liberation.. The Nasadiya Suktam (Creation Story) is simply an intellectually open-ended teaser.. Its creation as Prakruti/Manifested Universe is deliberately kept ambiguous, as is the emphasis on the reality of its eventual dissolution back into THE ONE.. So, unlike the Abrahamic faiths, the creation (and existence/dissolution) part of Prakruti is not that important.. FROM WHERE it emerged, Brahman, is the focus..

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you for this thoughtful comment.

[@81deepsingh]

The beauty of Nasadiya sukta is that it leaves possibilities of enquiries. You can question, you can move forward with freedom of your thaught.

[@Sneakingmentor]

No this is not the exact translation

[@81deepsingh]

@@Sneakingmentor may be yes, but my comment is about possibility of inquiry. I know that Nasadiya sukta has its base in samkhya darshan.

[@Sneakingmentor]

@@81deepsingh all i know is that this is not the actual translation.

[@81deepsingh]

@@Sneakingmentor actually it's very difficult for a foreigner to understand vedic Sanskrit, what he knows actually he leaned from a translation of a foreigner. Only way to learn Vedas is to go to a Acharya who is well versed in Vedic grammar and other Shastras.

[@Sneakingmentor]

@@81deepsingh thnx so you do know it. But whose translation you go for? Arsh anarsh?

[@vampirethespiderbatgod9740]

It's not a myth. It's pure science. Vedas are written as a way to the life & Universe. Faiths were formed after that. So the title should be vedic science.

[@PeterBolland]

Here in the U.S., we study cosmogonies (creation accounts) in the academic discipline of mythology. In western academia, "myth" does not mean lie or falsehood -- it means truth conveyed allegorically or metaphorically. My students here in California really enjoy encountering this creation account in the Rig Veda and they immediately recognize its scientific flavor, and how different it is from nearly every other cosmogony on earth where a god or gods create the world, whereas in the Rig Veda is clearly states that "the gods are later than this creation" and are therefore a part of the created universe, not its source, (as I point out in the video). Thank you Vampire The Immortal God for watching and commenting. Nice KZbin handle.

[@decay-154]

What is the oldest surviving text for the Rig Veda ?

[@thecrimsondragon9744]

What a pleasure it is to see this wonderful variety of videos on your channel. Subbed! 😊

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you!

[@darthashpie]

In Indian texts , nothing is absolute , nothing all powerful. Brahman is the universe , we are universe. This goes side by side with modern science. We are all Stardust.

[@ishansharmaalduin]

Nothing related to vaccum, that's correct. But what's being referenced here is - there was nothing (vaccum) but bear in mind vaccum still means there is space. So not even nothingness means, there wasn't even space. So this translates to there was nothing absolutely i.e. not even space time fabric

[@706aayush]

Yes.for space is distance between 2 or more objects.when there is no 2 that's is ,no duality ,so there is no space. Also time means an interval between 2 events,for example sunrise and sunset.but even time had not begin by then.Because events were altogether absent.

[@karanjeetsinghrathore2494]

I just love with your interior of home and heart as well😊

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you!

[@toohdvaetihom7088]

If you have an email then I can send you an traditional detailed explanation of this verse. Most English translators know nothing about Sanskrit grammar and they miss the real meaning.

[@PeterBolland]

You can email me at [e-mail]. Thank you.

[@SpiritualLifeForAll]

This video offers an insightful journey into the Rig Veda's fascinating exploration of creation myths. It's truly remarkable to see how these ancient verses continue to spark curiosity and inspire thought. While the Rig Veda provides an intriguing perspective on the origins of the universe, there's a compelling layer of metaphor and symbolism yet to be uncovered. These profound teachings beckon us to reflect deeply on the nature of existence and our place within it. Have you ever considered how these ancient insights compare to other cultural myths and their explanations of creation?

[@mysticnomad89]

Creation itself is an Illusion. Brahman alone is the ultimate reality.

[@iloveatish]

Great effort overall to explain this verse. The translation of devas is not gods- this was only a very British invention who didn''t get this. Hence the confusion that Peter has why the 'one' arose before the gods. In Hinduism, we have the holy trinity of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. The devas and asuras are celestial and supernatural beings who live on other planets ( lok). For example Indra lives on Indra lok ( abode of Indra). For example, Ravana in the Ramayana is an asura who also had supernatural powers. When one reads stories from THE PURANAS(another set of Indian texts like the Vedas), there is mention of people traveling from earth to other planets ( lok) belonging to the devas. Clearly mentioned in these puranas is the fact that when a man travels from earth to these other planets and returns to earth they find that their parents and friends have grown old and yet others have passed away. I read these stories as a child and didn't know that we had a scientific term to describe it. Later in life, I came to know that this is called Time Dilation. It is as if someone had written 'Interstellar' more than 5000 years ago.

[@truthofeverything]

I simply relish your rendering of these rich ancient texts. There is a reason why rich poetry and literature was chosen to present these fascinating thoughts. You are doing them justice by presenting it with such intense interest. Its one thing to write a script, totally another to act it out. Loving your channel. Envying your students!

[@sreerag3354]

Great class man...❤️ From India. In many eastern religions creator and creation are ultimately same.universe is a manifestation of God not creation . ultimately this"one" exists.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you Sreerag.

[@Athato_Brahmajijnasa]

According to Sanatan Dharma, The Vedas are Millions of years old. Since it was first known to Brahma whose age is classified in millions, Vedas are millions of years old and not composed by anyone.

[@hasanchoudhurymd]

Beautiful fascinating ! Appreciate! Thanks for thoughts and analysis!

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you so much Hasan for watching and commenting!

[@klanman5812]

I sense your amazement & awe when you read those 'creation' lines lines from the Rig Veda. It is no different in some ways to Dr Karl Sagan's reaction when he read those same words in his documentary some forty years ago. However it appeared that, apparently Dr Sagan could not depart from his Western mindset, and concluded that minds that came up with this advanced notion & thought, did so accidentally and therefore it must have been mythical! I am no Dr Sagan, but after purging my brain of Western thought, I came to a very different conclusion. These minds who speculated on the 'creation' of everything were indeed very far advanced; perhaps we are only now realizing how advance some of this thought prowess was, because with the advantage of 'modern science' we able to 'see' that having a 'Abrahamian' omnipotent God doesn't quite cut it! As you observe the Rig Veda does not TELL what to believe whilst the Bible DEMANDS it! I have thought about this Rig Veda line for over forty years, and whilst I have no evidence for it, I thought the sages who came up with this 'thought' must have a direct line of knowledge to others who came before them that believed this and because of this felt no need to build temples & monuments to 'Gods', etc., because there was no evidence for them during these very early times. The only civilization that springs to mind that seemingly had no temples etc. was the Saraswati (Indus) civilization. Is it possible the earliest Vedas reflected this? If so, then the so called Indo-Aryans merely came to absorb these 'thoughts' and continued to speak of them after they arrived on the scene, probably in dribs & drabs over decades, possibly centuries. Perhaps all the 'Gods' that eventually came to be, were just local entities that early humans associated with the every day activities of living, and were purely Natural events & entities that had been over time anthropomorphized. I merely applied observation & logic to these 'thoughts' and over time I believe human minds overlay and/or merge earlier concepts on to 'modern' ones. On a separated (but convoluted) tangent, it is why I believe that the Indus Valley scripts were not really a language to start with, but symbols (very much like road signs) because the people who populated the Indus Civilization were very diverse - maybe even linguistically. In such a community (or groups of them), a lingua franca may be inefficient/ineffective to convey basic information quickly. This is perhaps why whilst we find Indus seals in Mesopotamia, there appears none to be found in the Indus Valley! Anyway, just some thoughts!

[@PeterBolland]

Thanks for sharing these fascinating thoughts, and for perceiving my deep respect and enthusiasm for these ancient wisdom texts.

[@klanman5812]

@@PeterBolland Thank you for your reply. Indeed after some forty years of reading mythology, and studying behaviour (human & other), I believe the clues to how much of natural places/events manifested from 'superstition' & ultimately morphed into religion, are to be found in behaviour. As I young behavioural scientist, I created 'superstition' in pigeons in the lab environment using BF Skinner methodology. Feeding food pellets to pigeons on a regular basis slowly, then feeding them only when they did something not associated with feeding, like preening. Soon they began to associate a particular preening pattern with the arrival of a pellet - then an infrequent pellet. I added a whole string to their 'superstitious' preening activity and varied the timing of the pellet, and they adapted to this - in a sense they had acquired a religious view, that if certain a behaviour was adopted they would receive 'gifts', but only if they followed the prescribed order. I believe there is no real ancient mythology - ancient mythology is base on fact or at the very least an observed truism. As an example & in a round about way I believe the earliest humans first associated the sky fathers or Gods with daylight (indeed, I believe 'day' is a cognate for light) and not with the Sun (which became a separate God) is because they noted that daylight appeared first (the dawn chorus began way before the rising of the Sun) and the Sun then appeared. At the end of day, the Sun disappeared first, and day light followed. They also probably noted that you didn't really need to see the Sun to experience day light. However during the course of history, the Sky Father and Sun God became amalgamated. That is perhaps why only the earliest human account of these two 'entities' being separate, would help solve other ancient mysteries. I have tried to apply this model to as many ancient stories across multiple societies and civilizations, even adding in natural events such as changes in weather patterns or geographical upheavals. So far there appears to be a fairly strong correlation. Anyway, thank you for allowing me to share my views.

[@Varun-uv4li]

One thing I want to say our ancestor has to say that every VEDA Mantra has 3 meaning 1) Adhi-Bhotik 2) Adhi-Devik 3) Adhytamik ... Its depends how you interpret that Mantra ...

[@amitchopra9241]

It's a very poor Hindu indeed who does not question each and everything in search for truth..even the Gods and himself.And this level of thought emanating from so far in the past is a reminder to keep on questioning.

[@onlinesaidasa9105]

Om Shri Gayatri Devyai Namaha Explanation of how the 24 syllables of Gayatri effects us From A of AUM arises the first pada Tat Savitur Varenyam Tat - Activates Tapini Nadi Junction, Energises third eye, Is connected to Ganapati, gives success Sa - Activates Saphalata Nadi Junction, Energises left eye, is connected to Narasimha, gives bravery Vi - Activates Viswa Nadi Junction, Energises right eye, Is connected to Vishnu , helps in maintenance Tuh - Activates Tushti Nadi Junction, Energises left ear , is connected to Shiva, bestows auspiciousness Va - Activates Varada Nadi Junction, energises right ear, is connected to Krishna, Bestows yog shakti Re - Activates Revati Nadi Junction , Energises base of nose, is connected to Radha, bestows selfless love Ni - Activates Sushma Nadi Junction, Energises Upper lip, is connected to Lakshmi, Bestows material prosperity Yam - Activates Gyana Nadi Junction, is connected to Agni, Bestows Tejas From U of AUM arises the second pada of Gayatri , Bhargo Devasya Dheemahi Bhar activates Bharga Nadi Junction , Effects the Throat , is connected to Indra , bestows Protection Go activates Gomati Nadi Junction Point, Energises the Gullet , is connected to Saraswati , bestows intelligence De activates Devika Nadi Junction , Energises Upper left chest , is connected to Durga, bestows Suppression of negativity Va activates Varahi Nadi Junction , Energises the Upper right chest, is connected to Hanuman , bestows Faith Sya activates Simhini Nadi Junction , Energises Side ribs , is connected to Prithvi , bestows Forbearance Dhi activates Dhyana Nadi Junction , energises Liver , is connected to Surya, bestows Life Force Energy Ma activates Maryada Nadi Junction, energises Spleen , is connected to Shri Ram , Bestows Self-restraint Hi activates Sputa Nadi Junction, enegizes Navel , is connected to Sita, bestows Penance From M of AUM arises the third pada of Gayatri , Dhiyo Yo Nah Prachodayat Dhi activates Medha Nadi Junction, energises the end of Spinal cord, is connected to Chandra, Bestows Peace Yo activates Yogmaya Nadi Junction, energises the Left shoulder, is connected to Yama, Bestows Awakening Yo activates Yogini Nadi Junction, energises the Right shoulder, is connected to Brahma, Bestows power of creativity Nah activates Dharini Nadi Junction, energises the Right Forearm, is connected to Varuna, Bestows sweetness Pra activates Prabhava Nadi Junction, energises the Left Forearm, is connected to Narayana, Bestows Right conduct Cho activates Ushma Nadi Junction, energises the right wrist, is connected to Hayagriva, Bestows courage Da activates Drusya Nadi Junction, energises the right palm, is connected to Hamsa, Bestows discrimination Yat activates Niranjana Nadi Junction, energises the Left Palm, is connected to Tulsi, Bestows Selfless service Thanks

[@PeterBolland]

Thanks for that!

[@ashutoshgoswami1189]

We really want men of your knowledge to show the light of differences that exist in objects of reality to the people.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you for your kind words Ashutosh. And thanks for watching.

[@wilka171]

In the Vedic creation story the void, or nothingness and the profound absence are always present. You can find them if you search for them. The nothingness lies underneath existence and the profound absence lies beyond that and cannot be perceived physically.

[@PeterBolland]

Exactly. And we’ll said.

[@indianmilitary]

and an attribute of so called "nothingness" which is beyond space and time is the consciousness just like how heat is for fire and the sun. The so called nothingness and its energy cannot exist without each other. So, they always exist together for the perpetual duality cycles to happen. Hindus call it conscious, immortal, immutable, immanent (soul), transcendent and omnipresent Shiva and Shakthi - intelligent energy.

[@metatron-scribeofgod6572]

I think here the "ONE" refer to the Supreme. gods are used for devas / deus/dios.

[@PeterBolland]

I agree.

[@devrahul7435]

when you say supreme, it is know as shiva or brahm(shakti/prakrti). these are also formless state of the one. But before creation it can not be considered as supreme, shiva or brahm

[@mallikonduri]

By the way, ancient Hindu philosophers DID theorise about the existence of atoms as the fundamental parties of nature. The chief proponent of this was Kaṇāda, who called the smallest building blocks of nature Anu or Paramanu. He also posited that these particles are Indivisible, indestructible and eternal. Look up 'Kaṇāda' in Wikipedia or other sources.

[@sreerag3354]

Very interesting facts about hindu concept of God or Brahman is that it is described as formless, nameless and qualitiless.when other god concepts say god is all good.here god is neutral.bcz it manifested as universe and there are good and bad things both.Very interesting and smart view of God.

[@jayabalamurugan974]

Veda means knowledge,which is not written earlier, it is passed throughout generation by remembrance.the sound of recitation.max Muller an Sanskrit German scholar translated it into German language, which was later translated to many language, but not with same depth of understandability.

[@eyeinfinite27]

Rig Veda is WAY WAY older than Christian West wants to admit.

[@omthakkar7801]

Exactly

[@sauravsouravi5590]

The riks are timeless and the compilation is atleast 15000 years old.these westerns think the world created on 21 Oct 4004 bc as per bible even newton believed blindfolded on these.hence they juggle with dates all after this 2000 bc.

[@PeterBolland]

Thanks for watching and commenting Abhishek. This is the point that has received the most scrutiny in this comment thread -- the dating of the Vedas. In scholarship outside of India, the dates I gave are the general academic consensus of when the Vedas were written down in their current form. No one is disputing that the songs, poems, and devotional liturgy they contain did not exist in many other forms (written and oral) for many centuries prior.

[@PeterBolland]

Nobody in the "west" thinks that the world is 6,000 years old except a tiny number of Creationist zealots.

[@ravind2]

The hymn asks an even more fundamental question - Did God create Man or did Man create God?

[@shambo-rm8ql]

No, it does not. It says only God knows or may be he doesn’t

[@hambaexploringownnatureand6571]

There are the other ways to acquire the wisdom. Modern Scientific way is not the only way to know the truth.

[@thejumpers2521]

There is no one of the ancient culture. There’s only one ancient culture in the entire world that is Indian culture. Everything came from there. No need to get offended because we say “Vasudeva Kutumbakam” which means the world is one family. There are no boundaries of colour, race and list can go. We’re all creations of the creator. You can address him with different names.

[@gopinathram5651]

Very well done! Thank you. I love the joy and passion in your explanation!😊🙏💐

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you Gopinath. I AM enjoying myself! 🙏🏼

[@semmunn8322]

well, we can’t call every concept of creation as myth. at least one of them is closer to the truth.

[@disatpathy]

I love watching your videos and especially watching your explanations.

[@PeterBolland]

Thanks for watching and for commenting Dibyalok. I appreciate it.

[@surajk7295]

Please don’t just google and say any thing for ancient text like the Rig Ved. Can do your research or can analyse below For your information Nilesh Nilakanth oak has claimed below dates with proof and his book is also launched Ramayan- 12209 BC Mahabharata- 5561 BC Rig Ved - 22000 BC Surya Sidhartha- 40000 BC

[@PeterBolland]

Hi Suraj, and thanks for commenting. The art of writing was invented on earth, in several places, around 3,000 B.C.E. Nothing was "written" 22,000 or 40,000 years ago -- outlier scholars aside. Did these verses exist as oral tradition that long ago? That is entirely plausible. But there is no physical evidence. I'm definitely open to all narratives. But holding up one guy's book as "proof" is not how academic scholarship works. Even though I realize that here in KZbinLand this sort of "proof" is the norm.

[@surajk7295]

@@PeterBolland Thanks for reply Nilesh work is best claim through astronomy and proved these knowledge existed that year ago but not written as a book But knowledge existed and humans in India were the 1st people to have such knowledge and give humanity a better life of style and path for living. It’s not only he has video of proof but printed books with proof which can be analysed by you and several thinkers of west and come to conclusion By just saying the written evidence is 3000 bc will not help to escape for anyone in this planet that will take humanity backward and not accept the real science existed 40000 years ago in India called as bharat Varsha or Aryavart

[@ishansharmaalduin]

Brahaman or brahama gets created into nothingness and thus is called the creator and is called to be what every thing is made of, even (anu - pramanu) the electron and protons. The brahama come to be from vishnu - (the one)

[@1994arup]

Bramhan and bhramma two different things 🙏🙏

[@ishansharmaalduin]

@@1994arup well. Brahaman is the visible matter what is the basis of creation, modern science word god particle or higgs boson. And this field of energy or matter or consciousness which we call in our vedic texts is brahama. So technically its the same isn't it.

[@1994arup]

@@ishansharmaalduin no it's Brhaman .. bhramma is from trinity...

[@souravmisra4080]

Brahman is like Ether, which was the early European physicist thing pervasive throughout the universe.

[@ishansharmaalduin]

@@1994arup oh i get it. You are referring to the cast/sect Brahaman. But unfortunately because of limited alphabets in english and far lesser vowels, its getting lost in translation. What i m trying to refer is Brahama is what creats and what the whole vosible matter is made of, and the particle is also Brahama itself. And it would be called as Brahama with a suffix "n". Byt certainly not he cast Brahaman 😅.

[@nt.guilty_]

The entire creation is mistakenly understood in dualistic concept like if there is a pot then there is a potter! However, Rigveda speaks of Advaita - the One manifested himself into many! If I say, there is no distinction between a dance and dancer; the whole creation is nothing but One's own further expansion and manifestion; from the most subtle to most materialistic!!

[@indianmilitary]

It is because conscious Shiva and Shakhti cannot exist without each other. So, they always exist together for the perpetual duality cycles to happen. eg Manifestation/concealment, birth/decay (including reincarnation cycle), summer/winter, man/woman, freezing/melting, day/night, wake/sleep etc. This is Sankhya Vedic metaphysics (around which the whole hindu tradition was built) which combines Advaitha (non dual Shiva) and Dvaitha (duality capable Shakhti but only in combination with shiva)

[@donaldbequer2979]

Not by brahmins but by rishis, rishi =/= brahmin.

[@PeterBolland]

You are correct Donald. I glossed over that specificity since many rishis are from the Brahmin varna (but not all). Perhaps simply calling them "sages" would make communicating all of this even simpler.

[@mr.peabody9832]

@@PeterBolland Sages are more respected than brahmins.

[@adityaaima3302]

There was no varna in Vedic times.

[@surenreddyn]

There’s no need for calling Vedas as “myth” The fact you know shitt, doesn’t mean that it’s myth. Christian mythology copied versions from Hindu scriptures.. know that

[@abhinavparivesh8580]

why does this has so low views? nice video

[@PeterBolland]

Thanks Abhinav! I don’t know. I’m not a big KZbinr. Just making videos for my online philosophy and mythology students at Southwestern College, and posting them here. Thanks for watching.

[@abhinavparivesh8580]

@@PeterBolland i subscribed to your channel! i am sure it will grow :)

[@PeterBolland]

@@abhinavparivesh8580 Thank you!

[@icyjaam]

rig vedas according to recent studies are 8000 years old, wghich is in the written form, it might be older because in india knowledge has always been passing knowledge verbally.

[@ruderakshakarwa6333]

Kuch bhi

[@NewRevelationUniverseNru]

The concept of nothingness did not yet exist, nor did the concept of something, its opposite. In order to define something, you must first understand it. And in order to understand something, it must exist. With that said, even nothing is something when we become aware of it. It simply lacks substance and content beyond itself; therefore, it is really just emptiness. And yet, emptiness is the space from which all things arise and pass away. So- If "nothing, not even nothingness existed"---before Brahmanda--- that is simply because the concept of nothingness itself, did not yet exist. 🪞 Love your videos!

[@mahendramahe62]

Thank you soo much for such a great in depth explanation, mindblowing, its completely sad that indian pseduo secular govt. is not capabale of teachings and implementing great things of our origin in indian education, so many hindus are not even knowing this, let alone others, anyway its really great you are bringing the truth out for everyone, everyone throughout the world can learn and benefit... Myth is only when we believe, which cannot be proved or without proof and logic, but the 'one' can be experienced, proven and with rich philosphy, vedas and vedanata are truths and not myths, anyway until we attain such a state its a myth, if we know numbers and about addition we will know 2+2= 4 , until that its myth.

[@PeterBolland]

Mahendra, thank you so much for your thoughtful comment. I agree with you -- all of it. It is sad when a culture loses touch with its own wisdom traditions. Believe me, this happens all over the world in all cultures. And what you say about logic vs. experience is so true. Brahman, or the One, is something we can experience because it is our own depth reality.

[@youtubestudio2817]

Thanks for the video man! Just make consistent videos and you'll get more exposure!

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you for watching Ujjawal!

[@Sneakingmentor]

This is not a story. Vedas have no past no history. They have mantras not verses. In Vedic Sanskrit and not in Sanskrit. Oral form Knowledge received by four Rishis in the form of Vibrations 4th form of the sound. HiranyaGrabha answers this question. This is just a small part of the creation of universe according to ved.

[@GraceNettikat]

Yes , It is Chanda's of Metrical Rhythmic sound in oral form . IT is absolutely not Vedic Sanskrit .