The Rise and Fall of EA Blackbox Studios (feat. KuruHS & DustinEden)

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DoVe_7

DoVe_7

Күн бұрын

Welcome to the History of EA Blackbox Studios, today we will be talking about how they got started, how they handled the NFS Franchise and ultimately why they ended up closing down so sit back and relax and I hope you enjoy this video!
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00:00 Introduction
01:31 NFS Hot Pursuit 2
04:09 NFS Underground
08:36 NFS Underground 2
15:19 NFS Most Wanted
20:44 NFS Carbon
27:00 NFS Pro Street
34:29 NFS Undercover
38:26 NFS World
40:35 NFS The Run
43:16 NFS Mods
45:36 Conclusion and Outro

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@DoVe_7
@DoVe_7 Жыл бұрын
Hey there , If I missed some details do let me know in the comments and I will try and add it to this post!
@K3v1n195
@K3v1n195 Жыл бұрын
did you just say ''Hot Suit''?
@walktroughman1952
@walktroughman1952 Жыл бұрын
You missed the NFS World revival link
@galiachainik3753
@galiachainik3753 Жыл бұрын
I always thought r34 driver is another person who got screwed by Caleb (like a little story to show you what kind of person Caleb is and how he treats someone who appear to be a threat). In cutscenes skyline is already driven around Bayview and also gets wrecked there. How come would you be flying on a plane to Bayview after that? Even if it is you having your skyline crashed by Caleb in some different city and then after six months you go to Bayview.. isn't it strange for Caleb to move to the same city? Plus guy in a plane has a note from Samantha. So he moves from Olympic city to Bayview because he wants to "change things up". I guess that means he've never been to Bayview before. Now I've watched all nfsu2 cutscenes.. And befor racing with Caleb he says smth like "I've beat you before". And that means it was you crashing skyline... Some parts of a story just don't converge
@wayne7497
@wayne7497 Жыл бұрын
This video was amazing and very accurate my experience with the titles,i would love to see a part 2 on the more modern nfs games and why they arent as hype in detail
@_nighshift_group
@_nighshift_group Жыл бұрын
you can actually select the races in the garage menu in nfs underground 2 by going to the world map going to the stage you were at and scrolling down to the race you want to do. I had to do this when my game glitched out and made all the races disappear. So if u wanted to do the races without driving to them you can.
@KuruHS
@KuruHS Жыл бұрын
Thanks for having me! :)
@Gamer_Vergil
@Gamer_Vergil Жыл бұрын
Looks like i'm the only fan here :/
@pg_afx
@pg_afx 5 күн бұрын
KURU 🗣️
@DustinEdenYT
@DustinEdenYT Жыл бұрын
That guy narrating the Prostreet segment has a nice voice. He should consider opening up a KZbin channel
@DortioPhoenix
@DortioPhoenix Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's nice that Dove is helping out smaller creators like him
@hamdichami4636
@hamdichami4636 Жыл бұрын
Kinda dissapointed that you forgot the infamous Prostreet fart
@GozuTenno962
@GozuTenno962 Жыл бұрын
Insert shameless self promotion
@Mx64MaxyImpress
@Mx64MaxyImpress Жыл бұрын
Indeed, he also such has pogger face
@maurocorrea4748
@maurocorrea4748 Жыл бұрын
Him? kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqKoeqGKo7mDa6s
@GozuTenno962
@GozuTenno962 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if blackbox had longer development time for their games..man ea really sucks the life out of everyone.
@IskenderCaglarM41B441
@IskenderCaglarM41B441 Жыл бұрын
They could make carbon sequel. And much more smh...
@GozuTenno962
@GozuTenno962 Жыл бұрын
@@IskenderCaglarM41B441 And now we are stuck with brake to Drift need for speed games
@SchoppeROFL
@SchoppeROFL Жыл бұрын
@@GozuTenno962 Do you mean Ridge Racer :D
@GozuTenno962
@GozuTenno962 Жыл бұрын
@@SchoppeROFL and old burn out games. But I do want another ridge racer!
@Maddiedoggie
@Maddiedoggie Жыл бұрын
Underground 1 and 2 would have actually good AI, Most Wanted would have better customization, Carbon would've had a much longer story, Pro Street would have kings driving king-worthy cars, Undercover would be remembered fondly for being a direct upgrade to Most Wanted like it tried to be, World will still have it's official servers up with no pay2win mechanics, and The Run would be fully open world and basically be The Crew but in Need for Speed.
@goldbullet50
@goldbullet50 Жыл бұрын
What I have always liked about Need for Speed games is how the developers were never afraid to try new stuff. From a linear tuner game of NFSU, to an open world police chase game of Most Wanted, to an almost simulator like game of NFS shift, to a cinematic story driven game of The Run.
@guerillla6
@guerillla6 Жыл бұрын
Sadly the newer developers lack this creativity, and have just been repping ideas over and over since 2012
@goldbullet50
@goldbullet50 Жыл бұрын
@@guerillla6 Well, I really don't even know about the newer ones. The timeline I'm referring to is from PS1 Hot Pursuit to the newer Most Wanted. After that it's all unknown to me. So everything after 2012 lol. Lack of creativity is the norm, not the exception, in modern AAA gaming industry. I just started playing NFSU on my PS2 again, first time in around 16 years, and it was a fucking blast. As if back in the day, developers were actually making a game, for kids like me to enjoy, and not just a profitable product for their parent company.
@shawklan27
@shawklan27 Жыл бұрын
@@guerillla6 they're just trying too hard to be like black box and they fail on that
@HighwayUK
@HighwayUK 11 ай бұрын
@@guerillla6 TBH The SHIFT franchise was pretty decent but didnt fit the brand.... the devs then made Project Cars series until gobbled up by Codemasters and EA last year
@rehakmate
@rehakmate Жыл бұрын
Its crazy how they put mw and carbon together in a year, they have such unique atmospheres, from the music to the UI to the visuals and the best engine sounds in NFS to day
@hawken796
@hawken796 Жыл бұрын
They were overworked a lot
@LJ07EBP
@LJ07EBP 2 ай бұрын
Exactly they legit got the best NFS sounds
@Ralofguy
@Ralofguy Жыл бұрын
To be honest, if Carbon didn't get the shorter end of the stick it could've been a far bigger game and perhaps better selling game. Especially considering there's bit of cut content that didn't make it into the game as well as the plenty amount of opportunities to expand the game. But at the end of the day, even if I might be blinded by nostalgia, Need for Speed games from the Black Box era will always hold a certain place in my heart with Carbon and UG2 being my favorites.
@Brian-jv8iy
@Brian-jv8iy 9 ай бұрын
You're not blinded, I only played the games after high school or during it, so a few years ago and they're great even today, the atmosphere and rest, nothing comes close to some of the older games. Maybe just NFS 2015 has a somewhat similar ambiance but it's not the same. I only got the PS3 in 2020 and it is a fanatstic console. I don't have any nostalgia glasses for it.
@RedzaMalaysianCrossover
@RedzaMalaysianCrossover Жыл бұрын
I'm grew up with Black Box's NFS games especially playing those games on PS2. Need For Speed Underground 2 still remains my favourite NFS game besides Most Wanted 2005. Ah, nostalgia, thank you EA Black Box.
@beykid4427
@beykid4427 Жыл бұрын
I grew up with carbon and the run,
@emmanuelwil-jeff
@emmanuelwil-jeff Жыл бұрын
@@beykid4427 ayyy same here carbon was a trip growing up I remember thinking nothing would top underground and underground 2 BCS I did like them both so it's funny to hear it did bad BCS U/U2 were revolutionary but ig that just one racers opinion as well the run was crazy I had no idea the servers got shut down last year, but I will say the run online was something else that definitely was hit or miss remember thinking it's not like the story the run online was challenging and the rubberbanding and the MIC's a game where mics were a bad thing ppl raging over microphone was annoying xD
@alfredhabraken3340
@alfredhabraken3340 Жыл бұрын
This, I still play them to this day
@extrudatinoal
@extrudatinoal Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Black Box didn't have to rush Prostreet out the door. It was without a doubt the NFS game that held up the best in terms of culture and the car scene.
@extrudatinoal
@extrudatinoal Жыл бұрын
@@purwantiallan5089 how so? The time issue was from EA, not BlackBox
@WorldzMo5t3pic
@WorldzMo5t3pic Жыл бұрын
Blackbox made the best Need for Speed games: Underground 1/2, Most Wanted, Carbon Ghost Games showed the most promise and respect for the fans with Need for Speed 2015 and NFS: Heat Criterion made Need for Burnout.
@highoctanesynx7950
@highoctanesynx7950 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, EA is putting criterion back in charge........
@ItsHeavyHitterNation
@ItsHeavyHitterNation Жыл бұрын
Need for speed 2015 is up there with most wanted for me. Game was badass. Had fun with heat and unbound but the whole tier racing just ruins it. Nobody wants to do S+ tier races bc they suck and cant go fast without wrecking. So everyone just goes with B or A tier racing. Lame as hell
@xSpicySaltx
@xSpicySaltx Жыл бұрын
ghost is still criterion lmao
@staciefreshener4032
@staciefreshener4032 Ай бұрын
your right with that one. NFS MW 12 and Burnout Paradise is both identical. If you said MW 12 is Burnout Paradise 2 , I would have believed you . Infact it looks and feels like one . I love BP , so when I got bored of it, I bought MW12 , it was exactly what I wanted , just like BP 2 kinda game.
@kenjamago3977
@kenjamago3977 Жыл бұрын
one more thing abt the bugs around ProStreet is that some cars perform alot worst than the others when upgrading them like in some cars, upgrading Suspension, Tires, and/or Transmission somehow makes them slower/perform alot worst than be4 so this is why when some of recommended builds actually requires you to actively downgrade those parts (install said parts, tune them to your liking, & downgrade them to lv1/stock afterwards) and not to mentioned that some cars are overly op for a certain class so much that they're an absolute meta for that class (997 GT2 on Speed, Camaro & Supra on Drag, RX7 on Drift, 997 GT3 RS & S3 on Grip, and so on)
@BDozer666
@BDozer666 Жыл бұрын
Carbon has the same problem with some parts making you slower (maybe just not as noticeable), maybe even Most Wanted
@lhoujikasdfbjklfasdhbjkas7696
@lhoujikasdfbjklfasdhbjkas7696 Жыл бұрын
How about dbr9?
@kenjamago3977
@kenjamago3977 Жыл бұрын
@@lhoujikasdfbjklfasdhbjkas7696 DBR9 isn't tuneable in vanilla at least
@lhoujikasdfbjklfasdhbjkas7696
@lhoujikasdfbjklfasdhbjkas7696 Жыл бұрын
@@kenjamago3977 man that car cost 900k with price fix and you mean that’s not worthwhile? Big hit to me lol
@iSkiLLeTXx
@iSkiLLeTXx Жыл бұрын
nothing beats an stock ae86 in drift in prostreet
@DavidLucian
@DavidLucian Жыл бұрын
NFS Most Wanted and Carbon are by far my favourite NFS games of the Franchise, no debate whatsoever. ☯️
@GoInGcRz
@GoInGcRz Жыл бұрын
One thing that I will say as one of the few fans Undercover has, is that its soundtrack is one of the best I have ever heard. It gives off a very somber/gloomy vibe most of the time, but also really hypes itself up when it needs to.
@GozuTenno962
@GozuTenno962 Жыл бұрын
The garage soundtrack especially
@Kostas_Dikefalaios
@Kostas_Dikefalaios Жыл бұрын
Most Wanted also has a killer soundtrack
@diddykong7354
@diddykong7354 Жыл бұрын
it sucks because nfs Heat was a breath of fresh air. it let us tune our cars how we want to. no more force drifting like payback and 2015. the customization was great, they removed the micro transaction upgrades of payback and put regular upgrades instead, they did so much right in that game, it sucks EA didnt like Ghost removing micro transactions and closed them down. honestly the best NFS in over a decade
@dornsmichel_1364
@dornsmichel_1364 Жыл бұрын
But I still think that Heat kinda was a downgrade in other parts tho(compared to Payback or 2015). Although Heat got the basics right (no lootboxes and tuning parts are actually available for all cars) the game is spoiled by some of the following aspects (in my opinion): The Heat system feels unbalanced and the Cops are just unnecessarily OP, even on easy difficulty. Also the addition of the health bar was unnecessary. For me, progression in Payback felt much more fluent. In Heat there is a lot more grinding. Also Heat tries too hard to be like Forza Horizon or The Crew. The map seems to be optimized to not follow the roads therefore the road network lacks complexity which kinda makes exploring the world and driving around a bit boring. This has been an issue in Payback but Heat makes it worse. There isn't even a proper Motorway anymore. Also speaking of the map, the transitions between Palm City and the surrounding areas are to harsh. From skyscrapers to endless grasslands with just one single bridge crossing.
@zendraw3468
@zendraw3468 Жыл бұрын
only good about nfs heat is the graphics tbh. i dont like the drifting and handling, its so autistic and retarded. not to mention the wokeness.... also healthbar and scripted races and cops. and everything about it so dumbed down compared to mw`s cops. so bad.
@theobell2002
@theobell2002 Жыл бұрын
@@dornsmichel_1364 I'm fine with the health bar if they made cars tankier but the cops are so easy in Heat once you have a +400 perfomance car. You can literally just outrun them so easily. They're only OP in the beginning.
@theobell2002
@theobell2002 Жыл бұрын
@@zendraw3468 Bro, you have some serious brain rot.
@highoctanesynx7950
@highoctanesynx7950 Жыл бұрын
EA: HOW DARE YOU MAKE A GOOD GAME? TIME TO DIE!!!
@kenjamago3977
@kenjamago3977 Жыл бұрын
and one more corrections Miata does exist on the PAL ver of Underground 2, the NTSC exclusive cars are those two Honda cars (Civic Si (EM1) & RSX Type-S (DC5)) and interestingly enough, the japanese ver of the game named Sha-Do had PAL cars instead despite being NTSC (Opel/Vauxhall Corsa & Peugeot 106 GTi)
@htechdance
@htechdance Жыл бұрын
Apart from the look of the Frostbite engine looking good, the cars in The Run also felt heavier than in any other NFS game and also gave a more realisitic vibe in addition to the cinematics.
@MrPrajitura
@MrPrajitura 8 ай бұрын
The Run is without a doubt one of the most underrated games, at least in the NFS franchise. It really gave a cinematic vibe (kind of like the subsequent NFS movie they did, even though the movie was not the actual story from The Run).
@kevorn21
@kevorn21 Жыл бұрын
Oh boi that 7 lap race caused alot of rage back in the day 😩
@DatPenguin97
@DatPenguin97 Жыл бұрын
Undercover also had an enormous issue running on contemporary hardware, I remember my uncle who was way into PCs at the time tell me that it even ran horribly on PCs with 8GB RAM at release (2009!) Awesome video though!
@rustle495
@rustle495 Жыл бұрын
I remember being really into NFS back when Undercover came out. I played most titles before that, and for Undercover I spent days on the internet, discussing and trying to learn how to make that game run without crashing or freezing. One of the worst technical states of a "big" game ever launched.
@emmanuelwil-jeff
@emmanuelwil-jeff Жыл бұрын
played undercover like 3yrs back and i remember it being pretty good overall but i must have missed these issues bcs i don't remember undercover having issues more so the cops just being a pain in the way very much not like mostwanted they came hard and fast remember i would lost alot at lvl 3-4 cops or having a hard time losing them xD
@dornsmichel_1364
@dornsmichel_1364 Жыл бұрын
Also on consoles of that time. I remember revisiting the PS3 version a few years ago and the first thing that happened was my car falling through the map directly after loading. But when it worked it was quite a good game tho. I had more enjoyment from Undercover than from any later NFS game
@StormTehSinner
@StormTehSinner Жыл бұрын
@DeadPenguin: Yes! so true! I've build my first high-end gaming rig back in 2008 (AMD Phenom 9950 Black Edition, 8GB RAM and a GTX 280- it was an absolute beast in 2008) and was flabbergasted on how poorly NFS:UC ran. Despite a fps-counter showing constant 60fps, it felt and looked like it only ran at like 30fps and had additionally random stutters all the time. Even Crysis @Ultra felt smoother despite only running with 30-35fps on the same machine. That, the enormous amount of bugs and the extremely bad AI made me hate that game. The racer AI was far too easy for the first like 20 races, then for 10 races it was just right and after that I didn't have any chance what-so-ever because the rubberband reached levels of sheer madness. And all the cops were always driving straight towards your exact position, even when they lost sight and shouldn't know where you are. I mean... I don't mind if they were placing random cops near you that have a chance of finding you, but in UC each and every cop was driving exactly to your location and that's just really bad AI-design.
@gtmans6570
@gtmans6570 Жыл бұрын
I have no idea how I got here, but I sure am glad to be here now. I love the thoughts and research on the studios and how every game came to be and what it's all about. That Kuru and Pro Street guy would make a great duo! My two favorite childhood games were Pro Street and Carbon on the Wii, I didn't have much back then haha! Very well made video man, I really enjoyed it.
@xristaka8199
@xristaka8199 Жыл бұрын
21:00 Wait,wait,wait!I remember watching Raycevick's retrospective about NFS Carbon.There he said that the game sold over 8.5 million copies worldwide and he even showed Ea's revenues for 2006.Those 3.2 million units are copies sold in the USA only.
@DoVe_7
@DoVe_7 Жыл бұрын
You are right It wasn''t correct, I was looking at different sites to find the right number but each one gave different estimates so wasn't sure what the right one was , thank you for pointing that out!
@YouFag1334
@YouFag1334 Жыл бұрын
glad to see you branch out into quality documentary content, great job man !!
@KingTvlip
@KingTvlip Жыл бұрын
Very well made video. Eden and Kuru knowing NFS games so well this came out great.
@ItsaB3AR
@ItsaB3AR Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, thanks for putting in so much work on it.
@sovietmaori
@sovietmaori Жыл бұрын
Carbon was my first and favourite entry in the series when i first started collecting ps2 games in 2012. about this time last year i challenged myself to beat the game with drift physics enabled via extra options in a stock rx8 that i had modded to look like an ae86. every race was a battle against the ruberband until darius in the canyon. there he drove consitently on the same route without budging, like a cart on a track. it was hard to pass him as he had a very clean racing line but eventually i managed to overtake him on the outside inside the tunnel before iut turns right and he goes for the inside. now i can overtake him on the 3rd turn fairly consistently.
@lhwweiss
@lhwweiss Жыл бұрын
Copying timestamps to comments for convenience, thanks Dove ♥ 00:00 Introduction 01:31 NFS Hot Pursuit 2 04:09 NFS Underground 08:36 NFS Underground 2 15:19 NFS Most Wanted 20:44 NFS Carbon 27:00 NFS Pro Street 34:29 NFS Undercover 38:26 NFS World 40:35 NFS The Run 43:16 NFS Mods 45:36 Conclusion and Outro
@Raiden_-sc3zv
@Raiden_-sc3zv Жыл бұрын
Great content as always Keep up the good work 💪
@suewang9210
@suewang9210 Жыл бұрын
I actually like that underground 2 have no fast travel Imao, it make the player to better discover the city and interact with the environment
@RDOHC
@RDOHC Жыл бұрын
Certainly made my midnight, love the video it was good chilling back and reminiscing about bbx as well as their unfortunate fate as to which I never knew they renamed themselves before they went under so that's a nice trivia. All in all though solid video Dove! 👍
@rlas
@rlas Жыл бұрын
Very in depth and yet short kept video with all needed information. Even providing mod infos to fix the games flaws. 😍 10/10 Video 👍
@TheOnlyFalcon17
@TheOnlyFalcon17 Жыл бұрын
2002 through 2006 were the prime years of NFS. Underground 2 with its introduction of free roam and heavy customization, Most Wanted with the heavy dose of police pursuits in a open world setting. Carbon with its auto sculpt feature. Most people either will say HP2 or UG2 or MW. Most Wanted because of the progression of the story. It was lengthy yes but the pursuit system is what makes it unique and plays a role for the game. Yeah other NFS has its memories but short well lived like Undercover…
@Matro_R
@Matro_R Жыл бұрын
that so cool you got Kuru involved in the video!
@Mr.Midnight06
@Mr.Midnight06 Жыл бұрын
Hot Pursuit 2 on PS2 is still my favorite NFS. There hasn’t been an NFS nearly as fun as that one. But if we’re talking my favorite racing game in general, that pick would be Midnight Club 3.
@unumprovident101
@unumprovident101 Жыл бұрын
Hot Pursuit 2 is my favorite NFS too
@Gaminggod1997BAGR
@Gaminggod1997BAGR 7 ай бұрын
Yeah that's one my top 5
@TigerChamp99
@TigerChamp99 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video DoVe!
@crashcourseinbruhsurgery
@crashcourseinbruhsurgery Жыл бұрын
Thank you EA for wasting Criterion's time with the turd that's BF:2042, very cool!
@JustTheButler71
@JustTheButler71 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Criterion could've worked on Battlefront 3 but EA said NOOOO we want perfect turd.
@Jar3xe
@Jar3xe Жыл бұрын
hey no one never knew the outcome of the game will become in the end you know?
@stevendefeo8424
@stevendefeo8424 Жыл бұрын
I’m playing this game over right now and love everything about this game. The snoop dog song is the only song that plays in the background. Love it. Need for Speed Underground 2
@tbear
@tbear Жыл бұрын
Lovely video. Well put together.
@derosiflo6524
@derosiflo6524 Жыл бұрын
congrats on the 2k views on your board, the nice amount of likes and good amount of comments
@Haganu
@Haganu Жыл бұрын
Need for Speed Carbon was short, certainly. But those Canyon duels, in which you can't crutch on nitrous or speedbreaker. Especially if you sentenced yourself to a muscle car, which really is more a boat on wheels in how it handles. Plus the amazing OST playing during them. Those Canyon duels are the most memorable racing event in the Black Box era and I'm hoping we some day get something like that again. Followed by speed challenges and top speed runs in Pro Street.
@priceless073
@priceless073 Жыл бұрын
carbon will always be my favourite, i just wish black box had all the time they needed to finish it
@imo098765
@imo098765 Жыл бұрын
From Underground to Carbon, I fondly remember gathering friends and family trying to be the best drifter or best on canyon runs The games since then lost that spirit, you cant quantify it but it was something special
@captainamvv7135
@captainamvv7135 Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who just loves the camera in NFS Run.. It connects the player so well to the onscreen action.. Makes you feel like you are really in the game I believe Driveclub is the only other game I know with a similar camera system
@ioxic_yt
@ioxic_yt Жыл бұрын
Even though Carbon is short and was sold less in my opinion it was still a better game, its my personal favorite.
@georgfranko
@georgfranko Жыл бұрын
Auto sculpt does it for me , the ability to sculpt the visual appearance was amazing !
@ioxic_yt
@ioxic_yt Жыл бұрын
@@georgfranko I didn't use autosculpt, felt like the body kits were more of my taste, but I have to agreee autoscult was really innovative and unique among racing games at the time and even today.
@highoctanesynx7950
@highoctanesynx7950 Жыл бұрын
I swear if the cops were more relevant to the story the game would've sold better, even with ut current length I too think its the best in the series
@JustGenius2001
@JustGenius2001 Жыл бұрын
​@@highoctanesynx7950The reason why cops in Carbon aren't relevant like they were in Most Wanted 2005 is because Canyon races and duels is the main focus of the game like how the cops are in Most Wanted 2005. It's simple, cops aren't the main focus of Carbon so of course they had to take the backseat.
@MidnightApex-ml6jc
@MidnightApex-ml6jc 6 ай бұрын
@@JustGenius2001 and it was criticised because of that. People were spoiled of that game.
@evolly999
@evolly999 Жыл бұрын
Great video Dove!
@bakican9276
@bakican9276 Жыл бұрын
It was such a nice video and i got tears actually seeing old games again. Golden era wont be forgotten, black box always has a place in my heart. Btw my fav game of all time from black box is pro street.
@derosiflo6524
@derosiflo6524 Жыл бұрын
Well researched video, hope it'll go mini viral. See you in the next stream my bosnian-boi
@mert5809
@mert5809 Жыл бұрын
great video, enjoyed a lot
@mikutaku8216
@mikutaku8216 Жыл бұрын
Well researched, and fantastic made Video! Great Work! 💪
@Lucas_Antar
@Lucas_Antar Жыл бұрын
Carbon was the best especially with mechanics and polish. Your own crew, wingman, crew territory, all fire. Also pro street being a track game means that pretty much any car can be modified to do almost anything so you can have a BMW M3 with better track times than a Porsche.
@Philmyster
@Philmyster Жыл бұрын
Such a good video, loved it. NFS is my childhood and I played from underground up to carbon then skipped a few until the newer titles like NFS world, Hot Pursuit and NFS 2015 onwards. Would love to see a review of post black box games like Pursuit 2010 onwards.
@DoVe_7
@DoVe_7 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and I am doing a follow up video to this 😁
@Philmyster
@Philmyster Жыл бұрын
@@DoVe_7 sweet, looking forward to it
@MrWaheedulHaque
@MrWaheedulHaque Жыл бұрын
1k subs, and this quality of video you will be at 10k very soon mark my words
@Muckito
@Muckito Жыл бұрын
I don't mind the lack of fast traveling in Underground 2. Fast travel can feel like you're just rushing through the game, not simply enjoying it. For the most part, I didn't use fast travel in Most Wanted as well and I've probably 40-50 playthroughs.
@Rockport1911
@Rockport1911 Жыл бұрын
Iam feel so fortunate to be grown up right when Underground hit the market after getting my first PC. Back in school the boys werent talking about anything else. Underground2 with its open map was revolutionary in my eyes. I also like how the next games deviated from that formula, The UG- series, MostWanted and ProStreet couldnt have been more different. I still play all these games today ( with mods of course) and only Heat managed to get me thinking about buying a modern NfS title...
@juljuss073
@juljuss073 Жыл бұрын
i remember that pontiac gto from pro street on the nintendo ds port being easily able to push far past 430 kmh on the speed trap missions when u were there struggling to see the map and the rubberbanding was insane on these missions
@xan1242
@xan1242 Жыл бұрын
32:52 hah, thanks for the mention there
@ravencarino6115
@ravencarino6115 Жыл бұрын
Man, the Most Wanted section could have gotten more content such as... idk public opinions on handling, or the length of the game, how it felt to wreck public and private property to shake the cops. Damn
@FordMustangRTRspec510-spee8
@FordMustangRTRspec510-spee8 Жыл бұрын
Great video❤️
@jefferywarburton2116
@jefferywarburton2116 Жыл бұрын
I had a challenger in pro street that was uncontrollable with any suspension tune. It was prone to raising on to its back bumper when shifted into its highest gear and rolling to the passenger side. run,crash,tune,repeat. still my favorite nfs
@FabioGnecco
@FabioGnecco Жыл бұрын
Nice one !
@jasongonzales8372
@jasongonzales8372 Жыл бұрын
Love the SR2 pause menu song in the back lol
@hikkusubei
@hikkusubei Жыл бұрын
Electronic Farts presents Need For Stonks.
@fordshelbygt7177
@fordshelbygt7177 Жыл бұрын
I Hate €A
@lhoujikasdfbjklfasdhbjkas7696
@lhoujikasdfbjklfasdhbjkas7696 Жыл бұрын
Electronic Ass for EA should be right lol
@alexsaffamerica
@alexsaffamerica Жыл бұрын
@@lhoujikasdfbjklfasdhbjkas7696 Or Electronic Arse.
@MoonOvIce
@MoonOvIce Жыл бұрын
Hah, I hated (and still hate) the Fast and Furious movies, I didn't like "street" anything, so I checked out completely from the NFS games at that time, only coming back to Most Wanted but I was 17 already, so bought a new 360 when they came out with my first job and played the demo, loved it, so I got the game. Before that, I had played the 90's games in friend's PCs mostly, and liked them, but once the Gran Turismo games started coming out, I was done with arcade racers for a long time. Looking back now, there were some great games I missed that I managed to either play the PC version or emulate an older console to play, some of these NFS games can actually be a blast.
@Mx64MaxyImpress
@Mx64MaxyImpress Жыл бұрын
BlackBox, thanks to shaping my childhood especially the Underground, Most Wanted, and Carbon with ProStreet Era~
@shariqhasan6220
@shariqhasan6220 Жыл бұрын
For 11:58, I kept multiple cars, I reserved my original starter car for the sponsor star rating while I used the other cars, customized them the way I want to and use them to win races.
@gathel8574
@gathel8574 Жыл бұрын
First series of Midnight Club released in 2000 just before The fast and the furious released
@zanemk1
@zanemk1 Жыл бұрын
Yo plz make more type of vids I loved it and subbed
@DoVe_7
@DoVe_7 Жыл бұрын
I'll be doing a follow up with criterion and ghost games next!
@ddramos956
@ddramos956 Жыл бұрын
My first experience playing need for speed was NFS Hot Pursuit 2 for the pc. After that, I was in love and hooked on NFS
@dogewow8999
@dogewow8999 Жыл бұрын
I loved Undercover so much as a kid when it came out.
@ibrahimnaveed9962
@ibrahimnaveed9962 10 ай бұрын
According to Wikipedia: NFS UG 2 sold 11 million copies & NFS Carbon sold 3.2 million copies in the US only . I read somewhere that Carbon sold around 9 to 10 million copies.
@Fortminor56
@Fortminor56 Жыл бұрын
We'll most likely never see a game company like EA Black Box who put so much detail and effort into the NFS titles. Mainly the customization, there were other games that had good customization but I feel like EA Black Box were the only company to put so much detail into customization, even if it did look ridiculous. Times sure change, considering on how licensing cost are, and with certain demands that must be met, We'll most likely never get to see a racing game that levels up with Black Boxs' customization. But that's just me.
@suzynenechek8817
@suzynenechek8817 Жыл бұрын
Prostreet having the Texas World Speedway and an expy of Watkins Glen in the form of the Nevada Highway (Grip layout) suddenly makes sense. A shame that a NASCAR racecar wasn't included as a secret vehicle that would've been made difficult to unlock.
@rimantasltu5747
@rimantasltu5747 Жыл бұрын
Huge video, waited for a long time, also remember being in the streams keep it up pigeon!
@boufenarafetooh
@boufenarafetooh Жыл бұрын
2000s is the the golden era of racing games and NFS was in another level
@someonecalledeulogio2280
@someonecalledeulogio2280 Жыл бұрын
The plot: car wrecks The gameplay: car can't be wrecked
@FnRenner
@FnRenner Жыл бұрын
Nobody is gonna mention that Midnight Club, Forza, etc. all made better games than NFS for a long enough time that NFS is currently a retro franchise and not a modern one.
@redsquarejay
@redsquarejay Жыл бұрын
Carbon will always be the best in my opinion.
@EddyThron
@EddyThron Жыл бұрын
What an amazing and well made video. I used it as kind of an audiobook while cooking dinner today and it was such a joyful rise down memory Lane. NFS was my childhood and so these videos fill my heart to the brim. Thank you to everyone involved!
@seicgames4587
@seicgames4587 Жыл бұрын
Had they kept BlackBox for the 2012 remake of MW and given them 2 years, they would have made a banger of a game.
@qoznyyy
@qoznyyy Жыл бұрын
well done
@SleepyThaDragon420
@SleepyThaDragon420 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure you can “fast travel” to each event in underground 2
@ageandorange9514
@ageandorange9514 Жыл бұрын
I still think Need For Speed would have held it‘s quality longer if it stayed in the hands of EA Seattle and EA Canada, there was so much more passion for cars in NFS 3 HP, NFS Porsche or NFS High Stakes.
@Miltypooh2001
@Miltypooh2001 Жыл бұрын
I love how each nfs game has a different theme to it nfs underground 1 and 2 are comic themed but nfs mw feels like a movie
@JWUniverse
@JWUniverse 2 ай бұрын
It’s funny you grew up with the Games from my Teens I grew up with All of them even down to the PS1 versions. High Stakes being my Personal Favorite of the Series. Great video I wish you would do the Beginning of the series But I understand that you started during its peak year.
@DoVe_7
@DoVe_7 2 ай бұрын
I do have the beggining and later era aswell covered in 1 big video , its called the legacy of need for speed
@JWUniverse
@JWUniverse 2 ай бұрын
@@DoVe_7 Awesome I’ll check it out
@HeroManNick132
@HeroManNick132 Жыл бұрын
Small correction at 42:08. This game had 30 Autolog levels on PC. On consoles it was increased to 40, because till 2013 Black Box were still working on updates and DLCs only for the consoles just like what Criterion did for the OG NFS HP 2010. But sadly they didn't finish it in time, because they added also new Tier levels and exclusive Weekly Multiplayer playlists that they were available for a really short time and so little amount of people have these cars like: Tier 5 Audi Quattro 20V, Tier 6 Aston Martin V12 Vantage, Tier 5 Dodge Challenger SRT8, Tier 6 Dodge Charger R/T Tier 6 (one of the Tier 6 muscle cars that we didn't get for PC sadly), Tier 6 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X, Tier 6 Ford Shelby GT500 SuperSnake, Tier 5 Mazda MX-5 NC, Tier 6 Porsche 911 GT2 993. And obviously the addon exclusive Challenge Series and cars from the Italian pack in the 1.1 update for the consoles which the PC version of 1.1 got only bug fixes but the consoles got more paid DLC which is a shame for the PC users. Consoles got cars like Alfa Romeo 8C, Lancia Delta Integrale HF, Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera and Diablo SV, Maserati MC12 and Gran Turismo MC Stradale. Also they changed the Aventador's sound too from the PC version.
@HeroManNick132
@HeroManNick132 Жыл бұрын
Also I forgot about the Pagani Zonda R.
@SJxPVR
@SJxPVR 7 ай бұрын
In my option most wanted was the best i still go back and replay it from time to time
@cyberdyers
@cyberdyers Жыл бұрын
The ProStreet was the only NFS I personally did not finish, where on game progress, the road suddenly became so slippery, like you are driving on butter. I just finally gaive this up.
@frizzyrascal1493
@frizzyrascal1493 Жыл бұрын
Underground 1&2, Most Wanted and Carbon get played trough every once in a while. U2 is my favorite thou.
@K3ntucky123
@K3ntucky123 Жыл бұрын
Blackbox is the only company who knows how to make a good handling for the arcade, with the exception of Prostreet and Undercover.
@xristaka8199
@xristaka8199 Жыл бұрын
ProStreet's handling is fine you just need to get used to it.
@DillonCatterson
@DillonCatterson Жыл бұрын
You deserve more recognition man, it's clear you put a lot of work into these videos.
@AprielPhaskah
@AprielPhaskah Жыл бұрын
Now that i think about most wanted story. The start is already crazy. You used an actual race car not for the street to race against highly tuned sports car and muscle car
@iSkiLLeTXx
@iSkiLLeTXx Жыл бұрын
this is the first time I realized the react team sessions rx7 was in nfs underground, holy moly
@user-ec7us8bv3j
@user-ec7us8bv3j Жыл бұрын
even the tunes for underground was 🔥
@Namiz00
@Namiz00 Жыл бұрын
36:43 god i remember this bug when i was playing this game, if you land correctly (or jankyly if thats a word) on to the cones/pylons you can absolutely get stratospheric air times for some reason (reminds me of Arma 3 physics lol), and its most likely what the AI did earlier when he passed you in the most Fast and Furious way possible.
@jarrodeaston6373
@jarrodeaston6373 Жыл бұрын
Wait, undercover was made in 6 MONTHS?! Also, great video.
@NFSBeast2365
@NFSBeast2365 Жыл бұрын
For real??? 😵😵😵
@bartegggg
@bartegggg Жыл бұрын
good stuff
@static_2665
@static_2665 6 ай бұрын
bro, nfs world was and still is one of my all-time favourite games, might just be nostalgia but playing it rn still feels like im a kid getting excited just booting it up
@---eo2vt
@---eo2vt Жыл бұрын
when I was younger the magazine missions used to make me feel a certain type of way
@JJfan48
@JJfan48 Жыл бұрын
I don’t care about the sales or others opinions. NFS Carbon will always be my favorite
@highoctanesynx7950
@highoctanesynx7950 Жыл бұрын
Hot take: every single game with police car chases in it needs to have AI as aggressive as hot pursuit 2's
@tacticalmattress
@tacticalmattress Жыл бұрын
Exactly the issues you highlighted about Underground were also issues I had with both titles. I beat 1 but never completed 2 before NFSMW came out, and after that, I just forgot about it tbh. I actually got more enjoyment from Hot Pursuit II over both Underground games. It was the first NFS game I beat 100% though so that may be a bit of nostalgia/bias. When I was younger and much less experienced, the cops in NFSMW were hellacious. Nowadays it's Haha speedbreaker + NOS goes brrr NFSMW was by far my favorite NFS game regardless though HP2 second.
@JonesBrothersProductionsiac
@JonesBrothersProductionsiac Жыл бұрын
I think the Skate franchise should've been mentioned since that was their last game.
@namecannotbeblank8920
@namecannotbeblank8920 Жыл бұрын
NFS 2015 is the best one ever made imo, I habe played every game since the PS1 and that one is my favourite.
@Vedha.
@Vedha. Жыл бұрын
Although i loved MW'05 BUT i loved CARBON too...would love to play it again someday for sure.
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