The Rise and Fall of Gwenpool

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@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake Ай бұрын
Hello, Fortnite players. My Support-a-Creator code is TrailerDrake. 😉
@Gmoney9
@Gmoney9 Ай бұрын
hasn't even been a minute
@mythic1208
@mythic1208 Ай бұрын
😭
@gerardomarca8805
@gerardomarca8805 Ай бұрын
time traveler
@x24predator60
@x24predator60 Ай бұрын
Lmao KZbin put this on my feed deliberately 😭
@TheBigFatBlob
@TheBigFatBlob Ай бұрын
good timing for the algorithim
@PommyDragon2525
@PommyDragon2525 Жыл бұрын
That “Huh, two nickels” moment is one of the best examples of cultural linguistic evolution I’ve ever seen.
@Irish_Enderman
@Irish_Enderman Жыл бұрын
Best joke in the video
@wildste
@wildste Жыл бұрын
I find it more hilarious that he knew that if he didn't make the joke, someone in the comments would
@Doomsword0
@Doomsword0 Жыл бұрын
@@wildstesomeone probably still will
@RickReasonnz
@RickReasonnz Жыл бұрын
Joke was so quick, so smooth. Perfect execution.
@batguy39
@batguy39 Жыл бұрын
Won't stop the NPCs
@Confuzed54
@Confuzed54 Жыл бұрын
I totally get your gripes with modern Deadpool comics, but I feel there is a clear distinction between Deadpool when he’s written well and “Memepool” as fans have dubbed him. When the writer knows what they’re doing, Deadpool is a snarky, somewhat comedic character, but his stories often focus on his sadistic nature, his self-loathing mindset, and his desire for redemption. Memepool, on the other hand, is an obnoxious loud mouth that solely exists to entertain tweens, scream about chimichangas, and sell cheap merchandise at Hot Topic.
@2-Way_Intersection
@2-Way_Intersection Жыл бұрын
yeah, id like for drake to do a video really examining deadpool and either explaining why he still dislikes him in spite of that, or possiblyhow his mind changed. either way, it'd be great to highlight
@Lawgamer411
@Lawgamer411 Жыл бұрын
Thank god the Deadpool movies get that part of the character right.
@SpektakOne
@SpektakOne Жыл бұрын
I’m what you’d call a Deadpool “early adopter” - discovered him when X-Force #2 came out, and absolutely loved the Joe Kelly run, as well as Rick Remender’s Uncanny X-Force. My biggest problem with Memepool is that other characters tolerate him. Like his skill set isn’t so amazing that other superheroes need to have him around, yet he teams up with all the other stars and they just roll their eyes at his antics.
@ironmaster6496
@ironmaster6496 Жыл бұрын
​@@Lawgamer411FOR REAL, he was jokey but still cared a lot about Vanessa and Russel even had some cool development
@B1gBoyPants
@B1gBoyPants Жыл бұрын
@@Lawgamer411 YES. I love the movies so much. Obviously the action and jokes are really awesome and funny, but it wouldn't work if the movies had no emotional center. They really grounded Deadpool emotionally and made him a character I can care about, not just a joke machine. He's so much more likeable in the movies than in some of the comics.
@RiiftApart
@RiiftApart Жыл бұрын
The one issue with Gwenpool is that, paradoxically, her original series was *so* good that I wouldn’t even really want a continuation of it. Hastings wrote a fantastic story and managed to “crash land” it with an outstanding send-off after it got cancelled. You would *love* to see more of her like this, but it might just not be replicable in the first place.
@ChiPsiUp
@ChiPsiUp Жыл бұрын
Gwenpool's comic was so good that it made Batroc the Leaper a well rounded and likable character.
@MrOnepiecem7
@MrOnepiecem7 Жыл бұрын
@@ChiPsiUp Not the first time
@andrewdau1299
@andrewdau1299 8 ай бұрын
I only recognize the original run of Gwenpool. I'd rather see the character get a good ending than get milked to death. Being milked to death is a fate I see happen way too many times in media. To quote and old man , "Sometimes dead is better."
@solonsaturngaming3727
@solonsaturngaming3727 2 ай бұрын
Nope that also imo I just wished they left Gwen alone but I get it it's a different version but it just really lessened the impact when the made her and the other versions of Gwen-Insert Cash Grab name here.
@johnsmith8981
@johnsmith8981 Ай бұрын
Yeah, I would love to see more, but I don't think anybody else gets the character like Hatings.
@leakysteve5613
@leakysteve5613 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: it's heavily implied the way gwen originally got to 616 was through magic. She was going to apply for a job at a voodoo shop, but her brother, who was part of keeping her in her "original world", talked her out of it, then later said "this wasn't how it was supposed to happen.
@orangemonks894
@orangemonks894 Жыл бұрын
Hmmmmmm
@strombreakr
@strombreakr Жыл бұрын
Erm akchewaly she's a mutant with reality warping powers
@annawesometheflameingpikac3688
@annawesometheflameingpikac3688 Жыл бұрын
@@strombreakr the video literally explains that Gwen herself retconned herself into being a mutant with reality warping powers
@3xeplodng_3agle_studios
@3xeplodng_3agle_studios Жыл бұрын
But... She also still admits she's really not. Meaning she remembers. Meaning the origin still stands (as it well should) its just retconned in-universe. Kinda like how we all remember pre-retcon times, but obviously those in-universe don't (usually)
@brianbasham3517
@brianbasham3517 Жыл бұрын
It makes me wonder if she is actually the writer and creator of her own comic and can retcon herself to be whatever she wants in the comic.
@cammoore___
@cammoore___ Жыл бұрын
And now the Gwenpool video trilogy is complete.
@ElectroPlasmaAnimator
@ElectroPlasmaAnimator Жыл бұрын
Sam Ramie’s trilogy vs Comic Drakes Trilogy?
@kyrohowe3156
@kyrohowe3156 Жыл бұрын
​@@ElectroPlasmaAnimatorComic Drake, definitely
@Pēm̐cā
@Pēm̐cā Жыл бұрын
Yes brother
@theanimalagency2490
@theanimalagency2490 Жыл бұрын
Gwenpool always seemed like to me as a more tame Deadpool narratively speaking so that’s why she’s better when she’s not Wade, because it makes her unique and makes her comic necessary, because otherwise she’s Deadpool but female. When she’s her own thing. Marvel can tell stories that are super unique and interesting, or just something other characters couldn’t
@evangelineirene6994
@evangelineirene6994 Жыл бұрын
Well we already have Lady Deadpool for Deadpool but female
@theanimalagency2490
@theanimalagency2490 Жыл бұрын
@@evangelineirene6994 another reason for why she’s better unique
@windghost2
@windghost2 Жыл бұрын
Agreed 1000000%!
@windghost2
@windghost2 Жыл бұрын
She's amazing!
@evangelineirene6994
@evangelineirene6994 Жыл бұрын
@@theanimalagency2490 lady Deadpool is more amazing than Gwen but Deadpool.
@Magmafrost13
@Magmafrost13 Жыл бұрын
There's a certain tragic irony to Gwenpool suffering the exact same fate that she originally criticises Deadpool for, in being occasionally very well-written and genuinely funny, but mostly terrible. I wish I could buy Unbelievable Gwenpool, I always look for it in every comic shop I visit but Ive yet to find it
@thedarkroom6416
@thedarkroom6416 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@thisprofilepicisakittyboi9831
@thisprofilepicisakittyboi9831 2 ай бұрын
You can try buying the comics online.
@MonikwithDaButter
@MonikwithDaButter Ай бұрын
​@@thisprofilepicisakittyboi9831yeah but
@nimpsonkinkson1924
@nimpsonkinkson1924 Ай бұрын
You can try reading the comics online, for free
@angelramirez936
@angelramirez936 Ай бұрын
You can do what I did and order it from the comic book store directly. Of course, I did that a fairly long time ago.
@jordanheitmuller2935
@jordanheitmuller2935 Жыл бұрын
I want to see a "what if" where she goes back in time and fixes bad comics like one more day and civil war.
@lucasallen5792
@lucasallen5792 Жыл бұрын
That's a very interesting idea
@StudioInkblot
@StudioInkblot Жыл бұрын
I agree that Civil War isn't very good but idk if Marvel would agree
@dubbingsync
@dubbingsync Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if she would do that, she did see a future version of herself be a villain. Going back to those big events in the world of 616 might be something she wouldn’t want to do due to trying to be a hero.
@muhammadHassan-kj1jy
@muhammadHassan-kj1jy Жыл бұрын
Wait Civil war is bad???
@MrOnepiecem7
@MrOnepiecem7 Жыл бұрын
@@muhammadHassan-kj1jy Yep
@Tiggeralt
@Tiggeralt Жыл бұрын
I liked Gwenpool's guest appearance in the 2021 MODOK mini-series. She actually manages to kill MODOK, but when she realizes that not only is this his book, but he's portrayed somewhat sympathetically, she asks the reader to pretend the last few pages never happened. As a side note, I want everyone to know that while Gwenpool's color scheme is based on Spider-Gwen, Gwenpool had pink hair first!
@jardex2275
@jardex2275 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact is that the artist for Spider-Gwen was looking for reference material, mistook a shot of Gwen Poole for Gwen Stacy, and now Ghost Spider has pink hair.
@3xeplodng_3agle_studios
@3xeplodng_3agle_studios Жыл бұрын
​@@jardex2275... It's better this way. Lol
@thatonerotom8999
@thatonerotom8999 5 ай бұрын
@@3xeplodng_3agle_studios though It'll only make the two harder to distinguish for someone not familiar with her
@3xeplodng_3agle_studios
@3xeplodng_3agle_studios 5 ай бұрын
@@thatonerotom8999 not really. The two look completely different in every other way, and they both act/are characterized totally different.
@WIFEOFMODOK
@WIFEOFMODOK Ай бұрын
She ruined the whole fucking book.
@aadenturnbull1332
@aadenturnbull1332 Жыл бұрын
I think Unbelievable Gwenpool was my favorite version of Gwenpool because it gave this really fun but serious vibe to the story of her trying not to get cancelled.
@user-ww9gq4zo8t
@user-ww9gq4zo8t Жыл бұрын
Sucks this happens to a lot of heroes and villains like GwenPool (or even The Spot back then). Had the potential to be big until they switch writers, who have NO IDEA how to write the characters. ;n;
@ironmaster6496
@ironmaster6496 Жыл бұрын
That's honestly the thing i hate the most about the comic book industry, like seriously you can't just create a character or a story and then give it to someone else and expect to not radically change everything most of the time for the worse, like that's what Ruined the Hobgoblin and the clone saga in general
@CometX-ing
@CometX-ing Жыл бұрын
I know writers of varying writing styles, but a lot of the time it just feels like a genuine lack of concern about continuity or making keeping characters in character. Like the way that Gwen is writing in Strikes Back feels like there is almost zero concern with actually having her feel like Hastings' Gwen.
@MrRobot1984
@MrRobot1984 Жыл бұрын
That’s why there’s a glut of redundant characters. Writers just make a new character that does exactly what another character already does.
@Americanbadashh
@Americanbadashh Жыл бұрын
@@MrRobot1984 And? Why is that a bad thing exactly?
@salad72057
@salad72057 Жыл бұрын
@@Americanbadashh because the preexisting characters that could be used end up being unused and the new characters end up going unused after their role in the story is done
@Ijustusethistocommentstuff
@Ijustusethistocommentstuff Жыл бұрын
I feel like a fun direction they could have taken Gwenpool is to essentially make her fight off-the-wall, golden-era comics villains. Their powersets, combined with Gwenpool's still-very-fragile regular human body, would make for a fun ride. I feel like the problem they made right off the bat was writing Gwenpool's actual fights, not their banter, like Deadpool's. It kind of meant they had to have a more frantic character, that wouldn't match well with the story they wanted to tell. They HAD to explain why Gwen, who was pretty much the most normal person ever, fit into Deadpool's style of combat. Making Gwenpool fight more like the Punisher, and deal with wackier powers, would set her apart from the both of them.
@ExeErdna
@ExeErdna Жыл бұрын
Basically put Gwen vs Mojo. It's legit tragic due to this age of media and meme MOJO hasn't been the main villain in ANYTHING.
@yusuranaomi3338
@yusuranaomi3338 Жыл бұрын
at first I thought Gwenpool's first comic book was excellent, but then Marvel made more and more mistakes, at worst it didn't advance the character's story and we had cultural events for political campaigns. Marvel further destroyed the character yet she was creative
@alimations5226
@alimations5226 11 ай бұрын
Gwenpool vs Hypno Hustler when? They even got the same colors
@benwasserman8223
@benwasserman8223 Жыл бұрын
Can we all collectively agree that Gurihiru has the cutest comic book art style? I want every comic drawn like their version of Gwenpool 😊
@kab6754
@kab6754 Жыл бұрын
It's pretty neat
@kyletowers9662
@kyletowers9662 Жыл бұрын
i love their art so much
@S0m3B0z0OnTheInternet
@S0m3B0z0OnTheInternet Жыл бұрын
Seriously! It’s so cute! It sort of has that anime style feel to it but much cuter (maybe even chibi??)
@o0bookwyrmknight0o
@o0bookwyrmknight0o Жыл бұрын
I agree and I highly suggest the other superhero comic series they worked on, “Superman Smashes the Klan”!
@neotwo8786
@neotwo8786 Жыл бұрын
It's cool but lacks critical details. The colors are awesome though!
@Lowlight23
@Lowlight23 Ай бұрын
Future Gwenpool: “you’ll live on when they add you to Fortnite” 😁👍
@subscribetobluevr
@subscribetobluevr Ай бұрын
fr
@archivist_13
@archivist_13 29 күн бұрын
Hell yeah, it's good to have her back
@I.Am.Terrible.At.Usernames
@I.Am.Terrible.At.Usernames 20 күн бұрын
Such an awful game, Marvel characters deserve better
@SymbioteMullet
@SymbioteMullet Жыл бұрын
Wait, wasn't "deadpool with boobs" Lady Deadpool from the Deadpool Corps series?
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake Жыл бұрын
Yup
@TestGoogle-jh5hw
@TestGoogle-jh5hw Ай бұрын
alright then, guess it was "deadpool with boobs but she's pink"
@certifiednobody
@certifiednobody Жыл бұрын
I’ve been reading the 1997 Deadpool run, and he never feels like an ‘lol random’ character. He’s quippy like Spider-Man, but much more tragic and unstable under the surface. It’s easy to connect with him and his struggle to overcome his past.
@richborn6700
@richborn6700 Жыл бұрын
It isn't until about 2008-2009 when Daniel Way began writing Deadpool he went overboard with the wacky shit and all the obnoxious love for Mexican food. It's also around the time he got exposure and was all over Hot Topic and hundreds of T-shirts and game cameos plus his own game. It was a dilution of a decent character under the pen of Joe Kelly. Deadpool hasn't been the same since before the first Civil War. Buuuuuuuut, his arc in Uncanny X-Force under Rick Remender was *Chefs Kiss*
@iwakeupandboomimarat
@iwakeupandboomimarat Жыл бұрын
tbf i feel like deadpool becoming memepool started more in the early 2010s bc thats when random humour was at its peak
@Andyatl2002
@Andyatl2002 Жыл бұрын
@@iwakeupandboomimarat, did he get flanderized?
@iwakeupandboomimarat
@iwakeupandboomimarat Жыл бұрын
@@Andyatl2002 i feel like even if thats not when it started, its definitely when it became more noticeable/obvious
@gm2407
@gm2407 Жыл бұрын
I think I only really read cable and deadpool. Didn't feel 'lol random' just unpredictable. Which these are different things. He always had motivations he was trying to act on.
@JazukaiX
@JazukaiX Ай бұрын
The art for that original comic run was super cute, it's got a very wholesome vibe to it. The continuation looks like the industry standard that's cringing itself into irrelevancy.
@JacobGunner
@JacobGunner Жыл бұрын
I feel like this highlights a problem in western comics... writers changing characters to make them stay relevant and they just end up getting derailed or out-right become a different person. Like Cassandra Cain becoming a villain.
@erikwirfs-brock2432
@erikwirfs-brock2432 Жыл бұрын
It's both the strength and weakness of the shared universe with loose continuity, every new writer puts a different spin on the character to see what sticks, but for a marginally popular one like this the character eventually become incoherent because no one writers her long enough to have a definitive take others can easily copy in guest appearances.
@donovanfaust3227
@donovanfaust3227 Ай бұрын
It's how Deadpool become flanderized and he still hates on the character while singing Gwenpool's praises even though she ends up suffering the exact same fate.
@philparis796
@philparis796 Жыл бұрын
Hot Take: Gwenpool needs a Persona 4 style JRPG where she has to beat the evil Gwenpool in the timeline where she reveals the heroes' names. Give her the English VA for Ochako from My Hero Academia and have her special attacks be onomatopoeia she weaponizes and i think it could be game of the year material. if nobody else makes it, I'll study game design and do it!
@CometX-ing
@CometX-ing Жыл бұрын
Gurihiru's art really helped sell the feel of Gwenpool's character. Gwenpool Strikes Back, on top of just being written as lol so random a lot of the time also made her appear extremely unhinged with its art. Even with her original appearance it wasn't until Gurihiru started drawing her that I feel like her character really started to set in. Where as with Gwenpool Strikes Back a lot of the art has highly exaggerated expressions and in general makes her look far to zany and unhinged.
@jameshibberd5134
@jameshibberd5134 Жыл бұрын
Other artists give the impression of "Deadpool but woman" whereas Guirihurus art gives the impression of "Deadpool but Silly Teenage Girl" and I think thats one of the key differences.
@Waluigilover
@Waluigilover Ай бұрын
Just wait till this guy sees the Fortnite skin.
@reebal8
@reebal8 Ай бұрын
Yo it's the girl from fortnite
@x24predator60
@x24predator60 Ай бұрын
That's literally why KZbin threw this video on my feed lol
@FlameTrooper1
@FlameTrooper1 Ай бұрын
@@x24predator60same
@Dr.Cheese.
@Dr.Cheese. Ай бұрын
Fortnite Gwenpool makes me act up
@Memebreather1
@Memebreather1 29 күн бұрын
​@Dr.Cheese. yo isn't she like a teenager 🤨💀
@EditorAnimator
@EditorAnimator 25 күн бұрын
THE GIRL FROM FORTNITE 😱😱😱😱😱😱🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧
@jordanloux3883
@jordanloux3883 Жыл бұрын
I've only read one comic with Gwenpool in it, and that was her appearance in MODOK: Headgames. And I liked her, basically abusing the comics medium to undue her murdering ol Bighead and letting him win the fight by basically telling readers to cut out the page where she kills him. That was funny, sweet, and meta in a way that I didn't see coming.
@trevorbatesanimation1883
@trevorbatesanimation1883 Жыл бұрын
It's funny that both Gwenpool and Ms Marvel (more in the show than the comics) are basically Marvel fans who become superheroes, and both of them have now been retconned into being mutants
@CaptainCat101
@CaptainCat101 Жыл бұрын
I made two Lego Gwenpool Minifigures, all because you made me love reading the character's comics (when she was good)
@CaptainCat101
@CaptainCat101 Жыл бұрын
​@@firesparks22I used acrylic paint on Lego Friends figures
@Paper_Jam200
@Paper_Jam200 Ай бұрын
Gwenpool is, unironically, my favorite character. I love how her fourth wall breaks aren't just here talking to the camera and winking at the reader. She acknowledges that she's in a comic and identifies tropes, which often gets her to victory. I love how the final conflict was trying to keep her series running.
@zeroknight1311
@zeroknight1311 Жыл бұрын
I like the entire recuritment of the different incarnations of Gwenpool situation. Since it showed how writers can have different takes on the same character. Some takes are good and others are bad. Even showing how despite all being the same character, Gwenpool's various incarnations all have their own opinions in the same matter. Which makes sense, they're each versions of her at different points in time.
@RumForBreakfast
@RumForBreakfast Жыл бұрын
I feel like any comic character is going to have ups and downs. She had to have a clone saga era eventually.
@AlexBaldwinFTW
@AlexBaldwinFTW Жыл бұрын
Her solo run is one of my all time favourites alongside Squirrel Girl.
@GiubileiFernando
@GiubileiFernando Жыл бұрын
Your first Gwenpool video made me read the whole Gurihiru run and love it, but I didn't care for anything that came afterwards, in big part because I think that run had a perfect ending. I think they should only bring Gwenpool back if they have a really good story in mind.
@thejest69
@thejest69 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I wanted to see more of Gwenpool, but I didn't think I had to specify that NOT if it means being without good storytelling like her original run had, and certainly NOT if it means her being a twisted-up echo of the character I came to know. The "strikes back" story could just not exist, it doesn't have much of a story, and it goes in circles on what its about and why it's there, (the end backpedaling and calling it all just a manic episode doesn't redeem it for me). Her joining the roster of background mutants doesn't seem like it's all that good of an ending for her either, since she put on a costume to avoid being cannon fodder, and a lot of those background mutants end up being other character's stories cannon fodder.
@Kingkonga200
@Kingkonga200 Ай бұрын
In my opinion, Gwen feels more like a Self-Insert character for Marvel. Think about it for a second, she’s a character from the real world that gets the ability to go to the Marvel universe and back to our reality at will, dressed like a better Gender-swapped Deadpool and does the same type a shit minus the powers and every single comic that’s made about her puts the entire Marvel comics universe centered around her like the Sun blipped out of existence and a new one came in out of nowhere, a cash-grab may be what you’d call her, but for me it sounds like a character someone at MHQ (Marvel Headquarters) made themselves into a casual Marvel comic without consequences and got to run away Scott-free. I feel she’s a character worth dropping just for the example I made, a character someone made just for their own self-centered gain.
@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17
@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17 Жыл бұрын
My personal viewpoint: I really like Deadpool when he's done right. Like with the Deadpool vs Black Panther book, where he's funny, a great foil for T'Challa, and the ultimate Bugs Bunny style trickster. Also he's combatitively on par with T'Challa which is cool.
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake Жыл бұрын
I did really enjoy the weird animal arms thing that they had going on with Deadpool's super cancer. 😂 Overall, good premise for a book and a good use of Deadpool.
@veefrog
@veefrog Жыл бұрын
I feel like Gwen Poole is the kind of being that doesn't exist unless observed, and then each of her runs or guest apperances is a different incarnation of the greater concept of Gwenpool, like the New Gods in DC.
@heroicgangster9981
@heroicgangster9981 Жыл бұрын
Ngl Gwenpool should destroy the current mainline Spider-Man canon, that would make her the greatest Marvel hero
@angelramirez936
@angelramirez936 Ай бұрын
Marvel dun got the balls to do it 😔
@purplespectre
@purplespectre 14 күн бұрын
Agreed. For a while now, I've had the idea of Gwenpool appearing in Spidey's comic and ending an issue by asking the readers to vote on whether or not Marvel should undo One More Day. Assuming the fans vote for it, the story would then have Gwen somehow do it (possibly with help from Doctor Strange) so Peter and MJ could be married again, MJ would be pregnant, and the whole Parker Industries stuff would be erased from canon. We could even have Paul reveal he was Mephisto all along and get taken down by Squirrel Girl's squirrels. The downside is this would mean Aunt May has to die from her bullet wound returning. We could have Aunt May learn about all this before they make the change and decide herself to go with it as she's ready to pass on, and she wants Peter to be happy. Before her passing, Gwenpool could take Peter and Aunt May to the Gutter Space and show them numerous panels of May's appearances throughout the decades in Marvel comics history, so this can be a big, touching send-off for her character. Then after dying, it can show Aunt May reuniting with Uncle Ben. Peter and MJ prepare to be parents, and Gwenpool leaves while congratulating herself. What do you think?
@angelramirez936
@angelramirez936 13 күн бұрын
@@purplespectre I like it
@gameboysp100
@gameboysp100 Жыл бұрын
Man Gwenpool is one of my favorite comic characters. I really want her to be in good comics again
@arnezbridges93
@arnezbridges93 Жыл бұрын
I feel you, it was like this for us Squirrel Girl fans for a long time, only instead of better it got worse. Finally we hot a superior writer, but too late she's been labeled as a joke character despite having a serious origin story.
@CountDVB
@CountDVB 11 ай бұрын
Gwen being aroace would probably be more accepted if they noted that from the get-go rather than have her be simping over the other characters like we saw previously. As for Gwen overall, I feel the issue is mainly writers don't know what to do with her. Alot of them mean well, but aren't that much for creativity. Many of them lean toward novelty than depth (ironically enough, the novelty angle should work for Gwen, but it still misses). I guess the thing is figuring out what Gwen is meant for. What sort of stories would people wanna see of her? And if we figure that out, it should make things easier.
@oneovertwo1186
@oneovertwo1186 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, it took me a while to figure out why it bugged me a little that they made her aroace (not wanting to be hateful, just the writing seemed off to me about it in some way) & it was definitely due to it feeling to me like her writing in Unbelievable was intending to imply her being bi in some form. (Though that's just my perspective. )
@CountDVB
@CountDVB 11 ай бұрын
@@oneovertwo1186 I mean, she had a confirmed crush on Miles, there was just alot of her flirty or similar behavior, which was looking to be intended as such.
@orangemonks894
@orangemonks894 Жыл бұрын
Hey Drake, you described the issue with gwen in the real world as "A flashback issue" and that really confuses me. Its not made entirely clear that that world is what really happened before she came to 616 or if that is simply her mind erased and sent into a made up world. You would think that the future heroes who trapped her in there would have made the world a lot more enjoyable so that she wouldn't try to escape but idk. I'd really like to understand that part cause even after reading it twice I still don't fully get it.
@blakecook9266
@blakecook9266 11 ай бұрын
She was sent to a made up world that was supposed to put her off the path of entering the comic world. Unfortunately for the future heroes, since Gwen recognized that she was inside a comic, she escaped. But it was likely very similar to her original situation, with only the difference that she was talked out of entering that portal thing.
@CesarGameBoy.
@CesarGameBoy. Ай бұрын
16:16 Fun fact about this, male Sharks don’t actually have 2 penises. What you see on their pelvic fins are actually Claspers. Unlike a penis which delivers sperm through the urethra, claspers “clasp” themselves into the walls of their mate’s oviduct which keeps it in place, as the muscles in the claspers push the sperm down the clasper. To put it simply, a penis is a tube slide, and a clasper is an escalator. They’ll get you from point A to point B, but they do it differently and are not the same.
@PrDrNintendo
@PrDrNintendo Жыл бұрын
You've perfectly summed up how I feel about the evolution of Gwenpool comics and why I love her and her first series so much !! Plus it's nice to see someone criticize what she's becoming without trashing on her Love Unlimited issues which I personally really liked (but that kinda was my aroace awakening so idk maybe I'm biased)
@donaldwright8567
@donaldwright8567 Жыл бұрын
Gwenpool:" I don't really like Deadpool comics. He's way way too cringy for my taste."😑 Deadpool: (sob) HONEY!!! Our baby girl hates me! (sob)😭 Spider-Gwen: I'm not your 'Honey', she's not our daughter, and HOW THE HECK DID I GET HERE!!!
@CriticalThinkingShow
@CriticalThinkingShow Жыл бұрын
El Hombre Araña? Never in my life did I think I would hear anyone mention him. Toda Raba, thank you very much.
@NIDELLANEUM
@NIDELLANEUM Ай бұрын
Still thinking that a key issue with Gwenpool was the timing, with all the MCU vs Fox and Sony thing. At the height of Gwenpool's success, in any other context, she would have gotten lots of extra media, and the MCU would have definitely included her in some form. However, a variant of a Sony-owned character based off a Fox-owned character meant that she was certainly in a sort of black list. Had this occurred now, maybe she would still be popular, and be included next to Deadpool
@DzustComics
@DzustComics Жыл бұрын
I got all the trades on ebay recently and I can't wait to crash them open! You absolutely NEED to read the Duggan run in Deadpool thought! That run gave him SO MUCH more depth!
@chocolatebanana3
@chocolatebanana3 Жыл бұрын
19:12 which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice
@justinsinke2088
@justinsinke2088 Жыл бұрын
Part of what I find interesting about Gwenpool (with my admittedly rather limited knowledge of comics) is that, while the abilities she developed are in the same vein as Deadpool, they're not quite identical. Deadpool is a comic book character who is aware that he's a comic book character and is aware of the medium; Gweenpool is canonically is canonically from the "real" world and more often directly interacts with the medium itself (though Deadpool has been known to do that as well, like in Marvel vs Capcom he beats his opponents with his own health bar for example). Her transplanted nature means that in a way, she doesn't fully gel with the comic world and as such is not only aware of the medium, but can interact with it, which is beyond simple 4th wall breaking.
@Snidbert
@Snidbert Жыл бұрын
Honestly my biggest gripe with the Love Unlimited arc is how it had a flashback depicting Gwen's home universe. I think Gwen's home universe should never be directly depicted on-panel, because her home universe *isn't part of a comic book.*
@CountDVB
@CountDVB 11 ай бұрын
It's still her memories though.
@angelramirez936
@angelramirez936 Ай бұрын
@@CountDVBI think ur both valid. The middle ground being that she can’t fully enjoy or settle into flashbacks of her home universe because she can break the fourth wall, and can see the differences between it and her actual memories.
@johnnydropkicks
@johnnydropkicks Жыл бұрын
7:16 “Dumptruck ass” = hilarious!
@EliteslayerX
@EliteslayerX Жыл бұрын
Gwenpool became one of my favorite Marvel characters almost immediately after I picked up an issue of her comic, and I'm so glad that you feel just as strongly as I do about her character and the fantastic run of Unbelievable Gwenpool (and also Jeff the Land Shark, who is the goodest boy). The following runs just failed to capture that magic, but I'm still happy whenever I see her pop up. And after the latest mutant-related event that just happened, I need to know that she's okay.
@Never_heart
@Never_heart Жыл бұрын
The explanation of how Gwenpoole entered Marvel Comics might be one of the most interesting isekai stories I have come acrosss. This level of engaging with her medium is so rare in isekai stories
@EricRatcliffeNewcomicday
@EricRatcliffeNewcomicday Жыл бұрын
Dude while I respect opinions, have you only read like a specific Deadpool run or something? The Joe Kelly and Gerry Duggan runs alone are definitely not just dumb humor.
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake Жыл бұрын
I've read multiple Deadpool runs including Joe Kelly and Gerry Duggan. It is how I have an informed opinion. I just don't like Deadpool as a solo character. I can tolerate him as a cameo or part of a team though where he is diluted.
@EricRatcliffeNewcomicday
@EricRatcliffeNewcomicday Жыл бұрын
@@ComicDrake Fair enough, obviously I don't agree but can respect that you've at least read a decent chunk of the character. I think Daniel Way's take on the character (of which I enjoyed the first year and a half of) and the emergence of the cosplay culture completely ignoring the darker aspects of the character to basically just be annoying and trolly hurt the character as a whole. I do love that I'm not the only one that loves Gwen though so seeing this follow up video was definitely much appreciated! :)
@cuttothechasenews
@cuttothechasenews Ай бұрын
There's only been one appearance of Gwenpool, That is "Unbelievable Gwenpool". Gwenpool has so much potential to be an A List character and have new villains to go against her. Because she is so powerful her villains can match her. I hope one day an actual writer gets to write her. She deserves to have her story continue on.
@AdahnFlorence
@AdahnFlorence Жыл бұрын
From the way you're describing the way Gwenpool uses fourth wall breaks, I'm being reminded so much of Alan Moore's run on Supreme.
@Ckapter
@Ckapter Жыл бұрын
I found your videos only a week or two ago. I have been missing out! Fantastic work, well written, and professionally delivered. Keep up the awesome vids!
@marinocturne
@marinocturne Жыл бұрын
commenting for the algorithm! this dude deserves way more than half a million subs. he's always well researched, every minute is informative and entertaining, and it feels so cleanly put together
@OrionFigures
@OrionFigures Ай бұрын
I just got my first issues of gwenpool. I got 16, 17, and 19(i got them just to see if i want to read more). i love her story, and i am already hooked. I need to see more... sidenote, i pray that disney+ makes an animated gwenpool show
@What-ish
@What-ish Жыл бұрын
I just wish the omnibus for Unbelievable Gwenpool wasn't 100 fucking dollars
@kidanarchy2105
@kidanarchy2105 Жыл бұрын
Wait... so Gwenpool, who's been hypersexualized in a *ton* of guest appearances (not by the writing, but the art), is Aro/Ace? Gross, Marvel. Gross.
@jordanloux3883
@jordanloux3883 Жыл бұрын
The company knows that if they don't constantly pander to teenage boys (and men trapped in that mindset) they'll go under in a week
@CountDVB
@CountDVB 11 ай бұрын
I think said guest appearances were before said revelation. Gwen was considered bisexual for most of the part I think.
@foxyalex2549
@foxyalex2549 Ай бұрын
If she doesn’t like Deadpool, why is her outfit based on his?
@J3_studios
@J3_studios Ай бұрын
Me at the beginning of the video: -Huh, I like the character more) Me at the middle of the video: -Holly crap! I love her! One of my new favourites! I'll definitely get the comic! Me at the end of the video: -What the hell! Why is she dealing with that gender crap?! I'll just forget that last comic ever existed so I can continue to enjoy the character...
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake Ай бұрын
How is being asexual "gender crap"?
@TheZeroNeonix
@TheZeroNeonix Ай бұрын
I unironically want one to cosplay as one of the Poole Boys.
@timberwolfbrother
@timberwolfbrother Ай бұрын
I know it's a year late, but "cringe" doesn't really have much weight coming from the hipster of comic books.
@mangosightless
@mangosightless Жыл бұрын
I think Deadpool would be horribly offended by the idea that Gwenpool is just Deadpool with boobs. **Deadpool** is Deadpool with boobs
@jameshibberd5134
@jameshibberd5134 Жыл бұрын
This is the absolute best take on the whole "Just a female Deadpool" situation
@SeBooBoo
@SeBooBoo Ай бұрын
From fortnite
@dane4073
@dane4073 Ай бұрын
my freinds think im ace becaus im totaly fine being single. i told them fuck no im straght dont you dare fucking lable me. Not everyone who like being sinlgle need to have a god dame lable over it. But that my case, i would love to date, but and have a relationship and such, but i dont want the drama.
@SonnyErdogan
@SonnyErdogan Ай бұрын
Why you saying this in gwenpoole comics video
@Tx_98
@Tx_98 Ай бұрын
Yoooo its the guy from fortnite
@glitchtrap_gaming6577
@glitchtrap_gaming6577 Ай бұрын
girl*
@Elitex62
@Elitex62 Жыл бұрын
You know what the best thing about Asexual and Aromantic characters? Writers will never ruin your hentai and waifu fantasy by making a canon relationship! :P
@Dominator0203
@Dominator0203 Ай бұрын
Why is she called gwenpool if she doesn’t even like dp
@Victor-qx3vx
@Victor-qx3vx Ай бұрын
Because the character’s name is “Gwen Poole”. Or if you want the non in-universe reason: Because back when she first appeared she was just a joke on Deadpool.
@hudsondavis1399
@hudsondavis1399 Жыл бұрын
Gwenpool is one of my favorites and tbh, her coming out as AroAce meant a lot to me as someone who is Asexual! I bought her omnibus a while ago and absolutely tore through it. She’s one of my faves and I’ll gladly support her however I can.
@asmodeusguys4472
@asmodeusguys4472 Жыл бұрын
Seriously? That was just wayyy to preachy. Gwenpool isn't some raunchy person who has sex with every single person she meets, but there are multiple moments in her series where she goes: "yeah, this is so hot" and to my understanding, that doesn't really fly well with aroace people. And even if my info on this is wrong and I'm just talking outta my ass, this "development" of hers was not natural, it just came out of nowhere. Create an original character that fits these qualities, instead of taking established characters and labeling them something that was not intended. At the very least, make it make sense. Develop this properly. And christ, looking at the online discourse from people who ARE aroace, they don't really fuck with this due to the misrepresentation of the term, which again shows that this writer is only virtue signaling. It's all fake.
@valerielusa8000
@valerielusa8000 Жыл бұрын
@@asmodeusguys4472 asexuality and aromanticism are spectrums, many people identify as such while still experiencing those forms of attraction in small amounts of in very specific circumstances. aroace people can also experience forms of attraction that aren't sexual or romantic, such as platonic attraction. they can also be capable of intimate relationships. source: my girlfriend is aroace :>
@BeedleTheImmortal
@BeedleTheImmortal Жыл бұрын
​@@asmodeusguys4472arpace people recegnise that soemthing can be hot or attractive but not like it themselves
@hudsondavis1399
@hudsondavis1399 Жыл бұрын
@@asmodeusguys4472 Her being AroAce was very general headcanon among her fans as she never showed interest in romance beyond sales. And Ace people can still acknowledge someone as hot and stuff. And dress sexy too. We just don’t feel the need to do the deed with other people. I am Asexual so pls don’t tell me what counts as good representation if you aren’t.
@hudsondavis1399
@hudsondavis1399 Жыл бұрын
@@asmodeusguys4472 and the ENTIRE creative team on that comic were Aspec, so it’s very much not virtue signaling.
@SupTheNamesSunny
@SupTheNamesSunny Ай бұрын
Fortnite will revive her.
@jeremyhall2727
@jeremyhall2727 Ай бұрын
This series sounds boring...😐😑
@DockOkk
@DockOkk Ай бұрын
The deadpool you described is not my deadpool DP is a conflicted character thats so insane that somehow hes smart than characters like professor x when it comes to the world around him. He has emotions and his variant "Memepool" as we call it is the one for edgy 10 year olds that want deadpool but are too young for his comments with genuine emotional struggle. And yes I know this video is a year old
@canis2020
@canis2020 Жыл бұрын
"Huh, 2 nickles...." Best bit I've seen this week. Perfect timing, perfect length, just perfect.
@mariodpgodoy
@mariodpgodoy Ай бұрын
And now she is in Fortnite, one of the largest multimedia franchises ever. I hope you are happy!
@phantomthunder203
@phantomthunder203 Ай бұрын
the webcomic bit is just so stupid its sad that a fun character like this ended up waving around those flags
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake Ай бұрын
Cry about it.
@SimonCleric
@SimonCleric Жыл бұрын
No character can truly die, as long as there's... porn.
@FrancisTheBerd
@FrancisTheBerd 11 ай бұрын
💀
@zachstasch4688
@zachstasch4688 Жыл бұрын
The Hastings/Guruhiru Gwenpool run is my #1 favorite comic run of all time and I absolutely loved getting to revisit it in this video. And you did a great job with all of it. Also, I remember having the exact same journey with the Strikes Back series. I had a hard time with the first half of it and haven't read it since it was new, but it actually lives in my memory as an overall positive.
@PeanutStrawberry
@PeanutStrawberry Жыл бұрын
So I've just realized they're doing to Miles what they did to Gwen with the infinite variants? Yikes 😬
@PapaG-cg4os
@PapaG-cg4os Ай бұрын
Love Deadpool, hate Gwenpool. This video won’t change my mind in any way
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake Ай бұрын
Good for you. I'm not trying to change minds.
@thebaron2277
@thebaron2277 Ай бұрын
You mean the girl from fortnite
@zacharyvanstanley9488
@zacharyvanstanley9488 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, there are so few good Ace and Aro characters that we need the representation. I’m Ace, and I was honestly so excited to see that Gwen is Ace.
@bananashoplifter3440
@bananashoplifter3440 Жыл бұрын
👎
@steampunk-llama
@steampunk-llama Жыл бұрын
Same!! And particularly an *aro*ace character at that, even with the few well written ace characters I’ve seen they almost always end up being alloromantic as well. So to see her being unabashedlydepicted as aromantic as well is just really nice as an aroace person myself
@FolstrimHori
@FolstrimHori Ай бұрын
​@@steampunk-llamathat's a lot of words just to say you can't get any and have deluded yourself into believing its of your own choosing.
@reallyth0565
@reallyth0565 Ай бұрын
@@FolstrimHori Happy 9th birthday!
@silentfox139
@silentfox139 Ай бұрын
Honestly I only read the Gwen pool from the people who did the avatar comics. The other comics make me feel bad
@wasted575
@wasted575 Ай бұрын
TF DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT DEADPOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????
@wasted575
@wasted575 Ай бұрын
GRINGE?
@GreenGearStudio
@GreenGearStudio Жыл бұрын
When I read that Gwenpool is aroace, it felt so validating. One of my favourite heroes, one of only 2 I own a full comic line of, having the same lack of sexuality as me just made me immensely happy. I'm grateful we have her amongst the small handful of ace characters
@melasnexperience
@melasnexperience Жыл бұрын
Same here - it's especially nice that they specified that she's AROace, since a lot of ace characters are still alloromantic, and it just makes being aroace feel... unwelcomed. I'm just afraid that Marvel will use that as an excuse to keep her on a shelf until they need her for a Pride special or, worse, a shock value death.
@bananashoplifter3440
@bananashoplifter3440 Жыл бұрын
Christ 🙄
@neyou6940
@neyou6940 Жыл бұрын
​@@bananashoplifter3440homophobic
@CountDVB
@CountDVB 11 ай бұрын
@@melasnexperience I mean, she's too niche for anything mainstream and killing her off would just PO people. And she isn't a bg enough character to warrant anything major there. I think at most is they'd bring her back for a Pride special if they remember she exists.
@soomitsunami5936
@soomitsunami5936 11 ай бұрын
@@bananashoplifter3440for real you don’t need a whole gender for not loving people
@Dusty_B
@Dusty_B Ай бұрын
It feels weird to hear someone loving Gwenpool and hating Deadpool. It’s like hating ketchup but loving spaghetti sauce. They’re different enough that I get it, but it just sounds off.
@tadpowers7650
@tadpowers7650 Ай бұрын
This video got recommended to me just in time for the fortnite skin lol
@johnlawrence7097
@johnlawrence7097 Ай бұрын
She lives on in fortnight
@Foxxyz_official
@Foxxyz_official 25 күн бұрын
I have hated this stupid character since Lego Marvel Superheroes 2
@messychild6051
@messychild6051 Жыл бұрын
I'm tired of watching these videos and having 2 more books to read every time. I would have a life, but now I gotta read Doomwar and a Christmas special.
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake Жыл бұрын
I'm glad that means I'm doing my job well! I also have a huge backlog, but it makes me so happy when people go out and check out the books that I recommend.
@acer9494
@acer9494 Жыл бұрын
I fell in love with the Unbelievable Gwenpool series. I really loved that her superpower was just basically be a comic book fan that got transported to the 616 universe. Its also funny whenever she calls heroes with secret identities by their realnames my favorite instance is actually in her Venomvesre spin off where she is basically trying to keep her work boss from finding out Matt Murdock is Daredevil because of a doodle she made on some documents her boss pick up. Also let not forget that in her series 616 Doctor Strange saw a movie theater with the Doctor Strange movie and said Benedict Cumberbatch was a good choice. I really would love to see Gwen get a main comic series again. Better yet I think it be great if she got an animated show or MCU show and have the whole thing being she got transported to the show from the comics. Also if they did an animated show I think it should be a comedy series like Harley Quinn as that would fit her character perfectly.
@DockOkk
@DockOkk Ай бұрын
So deadpool is a parody of deathstroke and gwenpoole is a parody of that parody and a legitimate character who is gwen stacy. Huh weird
@redvoco02
@redvoco02 Ай бұрын
Her dynamic with Batroc was my oxygen for this run cycle
@Redskull1411
@Redskull1411 Жыл бұрын
Written by the Dr m ninja guy Me: Sold. A romantic webtoon where she discover she is asexual and aromantic Me: SOLD!!! Future shit that relates with me or like my very niche shit. Please stop!!! I am sold to the idea already!!!!
@lotuscat_
@lotuscat_ Ай бұрын
well, guess with Fortnite now having Gwenpool ingame, guess that means another round of skyrocketed popularity & perhaps another series run of comics lol also yeah using that SaC code, dw, been waiting for some skins to enter shop for a while lol
@DinoDeBlue
@DinoDeBlue Ай бұрын
I think the Marvel comics made me into blonde females bro Emma frost Gwenpool Gwen stacey Captain marvel Theres more but im eating
@boredhuman6512
@boredhuman6512 Жыл бұрын
Gwenpool is one of reasons I tried... am trying? To get into comics more Recently I've been more dealing with thoughts on perhaps being aromantic so man does it feel weirdly cathartic to learn she is aroace... I hope we can get more cool gwenpool comics
@dj_justanotheruser_yt
@dj_justanotheruser_yt Ай бұрын
"Deadpool is cringe" Yeah that's the point of his character he's lovingly annoying
@sir_paniccakettv1263
@sir_paniccakettv1263 Ай бұрын
Ehh not really he did start off as a cold assassin and eventually got flanderized. The Deadpool game solo game didn’t help. But what floats ur boat
@Stustuff17
@Stustuff17 Ай бұрын
Yo isn’t she from Fortnite?
@AdiBous
@AdiBous Ай бұрын
Blud 😂
@akira17_samurai
@akira17_samurai Ай бұрын
Didn't deadpool with boobs already exist?
@pewdiepie399chair
@pewdiepie399chair Ай бұрын
Gwenpool with always suck compared to deadpool and this guys somehow liking a great value version of deadpool more, doesn't make sense
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake Ай бұрын
It's almost as if not everybody has the same tastes and opinions. 🤯
@pewdiepie399chair
@pewdiepie399chair Ай бұрын
@@ComicDrake I said it doesn't make sense not that it's stupid (please learn to read)
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake Ай бұрын
@@pewdiepie399chair It's pretty easy to figure out why I like Gwen and not Wade. There's an entire video above this comment that can actually explain it for you if you have listening comprehension skills. 💖
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