The Rise and Fall of Gwenpool

[@ComicDrake]

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[@Gmoney9]

hasn't even been a minute

[@mythic1208]

😭

[@gerardomarca8805]

time traveler

[@x24predator60]

Lmao KZbin put this on my feed deliberately 😭

[@TheBigFatBlob]

good timing for the algorithim

[@PommyDragon2525]

That “Huh, two nickels” moment is one of the best examples of cultural linguistic evolution I’ve ever seen.

[@Irish_Enderman]

Best joke in the video

[@wildste]

I find it more hilarious that he knew that if he didn't make the joke, someone in the comments would

[@Doomsword0]

@@wildstesomeone probably still will

[@RickReasonnz]

Joke was so quick, so smooth. Perfect execution.

[@batguy39]

Won't stop the NPCs

[@RiiftApart]

The one issue with Gwenpool is that, paradoxically, her original series was *so* good that I wouldn’t even really want a continuation of it. Hastings wrote a fantastic story and managed to “crash land” it with an outstanding send-off after it got cancelled. You would *love* to see more of her like this, but it might just not be replicable in the first place.

[@ChiPsiUp]

Gwenpool's comic was so good that it made Batroc the Leaper a well rounded and likable character.

[@MrOnepiecem7]

@@ChiPsiUp Not the first time

[@andrewdau1299]

I only recognize the original run of Gwenpool. I'd rather see the character get a good ending than get milked to death. Being milked to death is a fate I see happen way too many times in media. To quote and old man , "Sometimes dead is better."

[@solonsaturngaming3727]

Nope that also imo I just wished they left Gwen alone but I get it it's a different version but it just really lessened the impact when the made her and the other versions of Gwen-Insert Cash Grab name here.

[@johnsmith8981]

Yeah, I would love to see more, but I don't think anybody else gets the character like Hatings.

[@Confuzed54]

I totally get your gripes with modern Deadpool comics, but I feel there is a clear distinction between Deadpool when he’s written well and “Memepool” as fans have dubbed him. When the writer knows what they’re doing, Deadpool is a snarky, somewhat comedic character, but his stories often focus on his sadistic nature, his self-loathing mindset, and his desire for redemption. Memepool, on the other hand, is an obnoxious loud mouth that solely exists to entertain tweens, scream about chimichangas, and sell cheap merchandise at Hot Topic.

[@2-Way_Intersection]

yeah, id like for drake to do a video really examining deadpool and either explaining why he still dislikes him in spite of that, or possiblyhow his mind changed. either way, it'd be great to highlight

[@Lawgamer411]

Thank god the Deadpool movies get that part of the character right.

[@SpektakOne]

I’m what you’d call a Deadpool “early adopter” - discovered him when X-Force #2 came out, and absolutely loved the Joe Kelly run, as well as Rick Remender’s Uncanny X-Force. My biggest problem with Memepool is that other characters tolerate him. Like his skill set isn’t so amazing that other superheroes need to have him around, yet he teams up with all the other stars and they just roll their eyes at his antics.

[@ironmaster6496]

​@@Lawgamer411FOR REAL, he was jokey but still cared a lot about Vanessa and Russel even had some cool development

[@B1gBoyPants]

@@Lawgamer411 YES. I love the movies so much. Obviously the action and jokes are really awesome and funny, but it wouldn't work if the movies had no emotional center. They really grounded Deadpool emotionally and made him a character I can care about, not just a joke machine. He's so much more likeable in the movies than in some of the comics.

[@Justsomedudeokay]

And now the Gwenpool video trilogy is complete.

[@kyrohowe3156]

​@ElectroPlasmaAnimatorComic Drake, definitely

[@Pēm̐cā]

Yes brother

[@leakysteve5613]

Fun fact: it's heavily implied the way gwen originally got to 616 was through magic. She was going to apply for a job at a voodoo shop, but her brother, who was part of keeping her in her "original world", talked her out of it, then later said "this wasn't how it was supposed to happen.

[@orangemonks894]

Hmmmmmm

[@strombreakr]

Erm akchewaly she's a mutant with reality warping powers

[@annawesometheflameingpikac3688]

@@strombreakr the video literally explains that Gwen herself retconned herself into being a mutant with reality warping powers

[@3xeplodng_3agle_studios]

But... She also still admits she's really not. Meaning she remembers. Meaning the origin still stands (as it well should) its just retconned in-universe. Kinda like how we all remember pre-retcon times, but obviously those in-universe don't (usually)

[@brianbasham3517]

It makes me wonder if she is actually the writer and creator of her own comic and can retcon herself to be whatever she wants in the comic.

[@theanimalagency2490]

Gwenpool always seemed like to me as a more tame Deadpool narratively speaking so that’s why she’s better when she’s not Wade, because it makes her unique and makes her comic necessary, because otherwise she’s Deadpool but female. When she’s her own thing. Marvel can tell stories that are super unique and interesting, or just something other characters couldn’t

[@evangelineirene6994]

Well we already have Lady Deadpool for Deadpool but female

[@theanimalagency2490]

@@evangelineirene6994 another reason for why she’s better unique

[@windghost2]

Agreed 1000000%!

[@windghost2]

She's amazing!

[@evangelineirene6994]

@@theanimalagency2490 lady Deadpool is more amazing than Gwen but Deadpool.

[@Magmafrost13]

There's a certain tragic irony to Gwenpool suffering the exact same fate that she originally criticises Deadpool for, in being occasionally very well-written and genuinely funny, but mostly terrible. I wish I could buy Unbelievable Gwenpool, I always look for it in every comic shop I visit but Ive yet to find it

[@thedarkroom6416]

Lol

[@thisprofilepicisakittyboi9831]

You can try buying the comics online.

[@MonikwithDaButter]

​@@thisprofilepicisakittyboi9831yeah but

[@nimpsonkinkson1924]

You can try reading the comics online, for free

[@purplespectre]

I bought the omnibus. Maybe you could as well if you ever find it?

[@Tiggeralt]

I liked Gwenpool's guest appearance in the 2021 MODOK mini-series. She actually manages to kill MODOK, but when she realizes that not only is this his book, but he's portrayed somewhat sympathetically, she asks the reader to pretend the last few pages never happened. As a side note, I want everyone to know that while Gwenpool's color scheme is based on Spider-Gwen, Gwenpool had pink hair first!

[@jardex2275]

Fun fact is that the artist for Spider-Gwen was looking for reference material, mistook a shot of Gwen Poole for Gwen Stacy, and now Ghost Spider has pink hair.

[@3xeplodng_3agle_studios]

​@@jardex2275... It's better this way. Lol

[@thatonerotom8999]

@@3xeplodng_3agle_studios though It'll only make the two harder to distinguish for someone not familiar with her

[@3xeplodng_3agle_studios]

@@thatonerotom8999 not really. The two look completely different in every other way, and they both act/are characterized totally different.

[@WIFEOFMODOK]

She ruined the whole fucking book.

[@jordanheitmuller2935]

I want to see a "what if" where she goes back in time and fixes bad comics like one more day and civil war.

[@lucasallen5792]

That's a very interesting idea

[@StudioInkblot]

I agree that Civil War isn't very good but idk if Marvel would agree

[@dubbingsync]

I don’t know if she would do that, she did see a future version of herself be a villain. Going back to those big events in the world of 616 might be something she wouldn’t want to do due to trying to be a hero.

[@muhammadHassan-kj1jy]

Wait Civil war is bad???

[@MrOnepiecem7]

@@muhammadHassan-kj1jy Yep

[@aadenturnbull1332]

I think Unbelievable Gwenpool was my favorite version of Gwenpool because it gave this really fun but serious vibe to the story of her trying not to get cancelled.

[@Ijustusethistocommentstuff]

I feel like a fun direction they could have taken Gwenpool is to essentially make her fight off-the-wall, golden-era comics villains. Their powersets, combined with Gwenpool's still-very-fragile regular human body, would make for a fun ride. I feel like the problem they made right off the bat was writing Gwenpool's actual fights, not their banter, like Deadpool's. It kind of meant they had to have a more frantic character, that wouldn't match well with the story they wanted to tell. They HAD to explain why Gwen, who was pretty much the most normal person ever, fit into Deadpool's style of combat. Making Gwenpool fight more like the Punisher, and deal with wackier powers, would set her apart from the both of them.

[@ExeErdna]

Basically put Gwen vs Mojo. It's legit tragic due to this age of media and meme MOJO hasn't been the main villain in ANYTHING.

[@yusuranaomi3338]

at first I thought Gwenpool's first comic book was excellent, but then Marvel made more and more mistakes, at worst it didn't advance the character's story and we had cultural events for political campaigns. Marvel further destroyed the character yet she was creative

[@alimations5226]

Gwenpool vs Hypno Hustler when? They even got the same colors

[@gianfar4067]

they legit need to hire MarikBentusi if a new series launches. their fan comics ooze creativity in gwen's powers in fights

[@benwasserman8223]

Can we all collectively agree that Gurihiru has the cutest comic book art style? I want every comic drawn like their version of Gwenpool 😊

[@kab6754]

It's pretty neat

[@kyletowers9662]

i love their art so much

[@S0m3B0z0OnTheInternet]

Seriously! It’s so cute! It sort of has that anime style feel to it but much cuter (maybe even chibi??)

[@o0bookwyrmknight0o]

I agree and I highly suggest the other superhero comic series they worked on, “Superman Smashes the Klan”!

[@neotwo8786]

It's cool but lacks critical details. The colors are awesome though!

[@user-ww9gq4zo8t]

Sucks this happens to a lot of heroes and villains like GwenPool (or even The Spot back then). Had the potential to be big until they switch writers, who have NO IDEA how to write the characters. ;n;

[@ironmaster6496]

That's honestly the thing i hate the most about the comic book industry, like seriously you can't just create a character or a story and then give it to someone else and expect to not radically change everything most of the time for the worse, like that's what Ruined the Hobgoblin and the clone saga in general

[@CometX-ing]

I know writers of varying writing styles, but a lot of the time it just feels like a genuine lack of concern about continuity or making keeping characters in character. Like the way that Gwen is writing in Strikes Back feels like there is almost zero concern with actually having her feel like Hastings' Gwen.

[@MrRobot1984]

That’s why there’s a glut of redundant characters. Writers just make a new character that does exactly what another character already does.

[@Americanbadashh]

@@MrRobot1984 And? Why is that a bad thing exactly?

[@salad72057]

@@Americanbadashh because the preexisting characters that could be used end up being unused and the new characters end up going unused after their role in the story is done

[@JazukaiX]

The art for that original comic run was super cute, it's got a very wholesome vibe to it. The continuation looks like the industry standard that's cringing itself into irrelevancy.

[@trevorbatesanimation1883]

It's funny that both Gwenpool and Ms Marvel (more in the show than the comics) are basically Marvel fans who become superheroes, and both of them have now been retconned into being mutants

[@CaptainCat101]

I made two Lego Gwenpool Minifigures, all because you made me love reading the character's comics (when she was good)

[@CaptainCat101]

​@@firesparks22I used acrylic paint on Lego Friends figures

[@JacobGunner]

I feel like this highlights a problem in western comics... writers changing characters to make them stay relevant and they just end up getting derailed or out-right become a different person. Like Cassandra Cain becoming a villain.

[@erikwirfs-brock2432]

It's both the strength and weakness of the shared universe with loose continuity, every new writer puts a different spin on the character to see what sticks, but for a marginally popular one like this the character eventually become incoherent because no one writers her long enough to have a definitive take others can easily copy in guest appearances.

[@donovanfaust3227]

It's how Deadpool become flanderized and he still hates on the character while singing Gwenpool's praises even though she ends up suffering the exact same fate.

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

@@erikwirfs-brock2432Even worse IMO is when a writer decides to write an edgy grimdark story on a character to “make their mark.” Which is why at one point we had so many beloved B and C list comic characters getting k***ed off with no rhyme or reason. Sue Dibny, the beloved wife of Elongated Man, springs to mind. Gal had been appearing since the silver age and was generally liked by fans for her spunky personality and genuinely fun sense of humor. But in the pre-reboot timeline, one of her final appearances was getting k***ed of (for incredibly stupid reasons at that) and in the same comic the person in charge of the comic retroactively had her be a victim of r**e. A “story element” that never gets resolved and is there purely for drama. A good author or authors can lift a character to greatness, but a terrible author can all too easily grind a character into the ground

[@certifiednobody]

I’ve been reading the 1997 Deadpool run, and he never feels like an ‘lol random’ character. He’s quippy like Spider-Man, but much more tragic and unstable under the surface. It’s easy to connect with him and his struggle to overcome his past.

[@richborn6700]

It isn't until about 2008-2009 when Daniel Way began writing Deadpool he went overboard with the wacky shit and all the obnoxious love for Mexican food. It's also around the time he got exposure and was all over Hot Topic and hundreds of T-shirts and game cameos plus his own game. It was a dilution of a decent character under the pen of Joe Kelly. Deadpool hasn't been the same since before the first Civil War. Buuuuuuuut, his arc in Uncanny X-Force under Rick Remender was *Chefs Kiss*

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

tbf i feel like deadpool becoming memepool started more in the early 2010s bc thats when random humour was at its peak

[@Andyatl2002]

@@iwakeupandboomimarat, did he get flanderized?

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

@@Andyatl2002 i feel like even if thats not when it started, its definitely when it became more noticeable/obvious

[@gm2407]

I think I only really read cable and deadpool. Didn't feel 'lol random' just unpredictable. Which these are different things. He always had motivations he was trying to act on.

[@CriticalThinkingShow]

El Hombre Araña? Never in my life did I think I would hear anyone mention him. Toda Raba, thank you very much.

[@CometX-ing]

Gurihiru's art really helped sell the feel of Gwenpool's character. Gwenpool Strikes Back, on top of just being written as lol so random a lot of the time also made her appear extremely unhinged with its art. Even with her original appearance it wasn't until Gurihiru started drawing her that I feel like her character really started to set in. Where as with Gwenpool Strikes Back a lot of the art has highly exaggerated expressions and in general makes her look far to zany and unhinged.

[@jameshibberd5134]

Other artists give the impression of "Deadpool but woman" whereas Guirihurus art gives the impression of "Deadpool but Silly Teenage Girl" and I think thats one of the key differences.

[@zeroknight1311]

I like the entire recuritment of the different incarnations of Gwenpool situation. Since it showed how writers can have different takes on the same character. Some takes are good and others are bad. Even showing how despite all being the same character, Gwenpool's various incarnations all have their own opinions in the same matter. Which makes sense, they're each versions of her at different points in time.

[@SymbioteMullet]

Wait, wasn't "deadpool with boobs" Lady Deadpool from the Deadpool Corps series?

[@ComicDrake]

Yup

[@TestGoogle-jh5hw]

alright then, guess it was "deadpool with boobs but she's pink"

[@johnnydropkicks]

7:16 “Dumptruck ass” = hilarious!

[@Lowlight23]

Future Gwenpool: “you’ll live on when they add you to Fortnite” 😁👍

[@subscribetobluevr]

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[@archivist_13]

Hell yeah, it's good to have her back

[@I.Am.Terrible.At.Usernames]

Such an awful game, Marvel characters deserve better

[@AlexBaldwinFTW]

Her solo run is one of my all time favourites alongside Squirrel Girl.

[@Paper_Jam200]

Gwenpool is, unironically, my favorite character. I love how her fourth wall breaks aren't just here talking to the camera and winking at the reader. She acknowledges that she's in a comic and identifies tropes, which often gets her to victory. I love how the final conflict was trying to keep her series running.

[@jordanloux3883]

I've only read one comic with Gwenpool in it, and that was her appearance in MODOK: Headgames. And I liked her, basically abusing the comics medium to undue her murdering ol Bighead and letting him win the fight by basically telling readers to cut out the page where she kills him. That was funny, sweet, and meta in a way that I didn't see coming.

[@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17]

My personal viewpoint: I really like Deadpool when he's done right. Like with the Deadpool vs Black Panther book, where he's funny, a great foil for T'Challa, and the ultimate Bugs Bunny style trickster. Also he's combatitively on par with T'Challa which is cool.

[@ComicDrake]

I did really enjoy the weird animal arms thing that they had going on with Deadpool's super cancer. 😂 Overall, good premise for a book and a good use of Deadpool.

[@PrDrNintendo]

You've perfectly summed up how I feel about the evolution of Gwenpool comics and why I love her and her first series so much !! Plus it's nice to see someone criticize what she's becoming without trashing on her Love Unlimited issues which I personally really liked (but that kinda was my aroace awakening so idk maybe I'm biased)

[@gameboysp100]

Man Gwenpool is one of my favorite comic characters. I really want her to be in good comics again

[@arnezbridges93]

I feel you, it was like this for us Squirrel Girl fans for a long time, only instead of better it got worse. Finally we hot a superior writer, but too late she's been labeled as a joke character despite having a serious origin story.

[@GiubileiFernando]

Your first Gwenpool video made me read the whole Gurihiru run and love it, but I didn't care for anything that came afterwards, in big part because I think that run had a perfect ending. I think they should only bring Gwenpool back if they have a really good story in mind.

[@thejest69]

I agree. I wanted to see more of Gwenpool, but I didn't think I had to specify that NOT if it means being without good storytelling like her original run had, and certainly NOT if it means her being a twisted-up echo of the character I came to know. The "strikes back" story could just not exist, it doesn't have much of a story, and it goes in circles on what its about and why it's there, (the end backpedaling and calling it all just a manic episode doesn't redeem it for me). Her joining the roster of background mutants doesn't seem like it's all that good of an ending for her either, since she put on a costume to avoid being cannon fodder, and a lot of those background mutants end up being other character's stories cannon fodder.

[@RumForBreakfast]

I feel like any comic character is going to have ups and downs. She had to have a clone saga era eventually.

[@philparis796]

Hot Take: Gwenpool needs a Persona 4 style JRPG where she has to beat the evil Gwenpool in the timeline where she reveals the heroes' names. Give her the English VA for Ochako from My Hero Academia and have her special attacks be onomatopoeia she weaponizes and i think it could be game of the year material. if nobody else makes it, I'll study game design and do it!

[@Ckapter]

I found your videos only a week or two ago. I have been missing out! Fantastic work, well written, and professionally delivered. Keep up the awesome vids!

[@canis2020]

"Huh, 2 nickles...." Best bit I've seen this week. Perfect timing, perfect length, just perfect.

[@Never_heart]

The explanation of how Gwenpoole entered Marvel Comics might be one of the most interesting isekai stories I have come acrosss. This level of engaging with her medium is so rare in isekai stories

[@AdahnFlorence]

From the way you're describing the way Gwenpool uses fourth wall breaks, I'm being reminded so much of Alan Moore's run on Supreme.

[@veefrog]

I feel like Gwen Poole is the kind of being that doesn't exist unless observed, and then each of her runs or guest apperances is a different incarnation of the greater concept of Gwenpool, like the New Gods in DC.

[@marinocturne]

commenting for the algorithm! this dude deserves way more than half a million subs. he's always well researched, every minute is informative and entertaining, and it feels so cleanly put together

[@wasabisniffles]

AND NOW JEFF WILL BRING HER BACK THRU RIVALS YEASSSSSSSSS

[@justinsinke2088]

Part of what I find interesting about Gwenpool (with my admittedly rather limited knowledge of comics) is that, while the abilities she developed are in the same vein as Deadpool, they're not quite identical. Deadpool is a comic book character who is aware that he's a comic book character and is aware of the medium; Gweenpool is canonically is canonically from the "real" world and more often directly interacts with the medium itself (though Deadpool has been known to do that as well, like in Marvel vs Capcom he beats his opponents with his own health bar for example). Her transplanted nature means that in a way, she doesn't fully gel with the comic world and as such is not only aware of the medium, but can interact with it, which is beyond simple 4th wall breaking.

[@Lionlover666]

With Jeff Becoming effectively the Face of Marvel Rivals and the resurgence of him. I hope we'll see a resurgence of Qwenpool too. Its been reported that Jeff Will get into the MCU at some point, so hopefully, we get Gwen in there with him. Possibly as a member of the young avengers.

[@EliteslayerX]

Gwenpool became one of my favorite Marvel characters almost immediately after I picked up an issue of her comic, and I'm so glad that you feel just as strongly as I do about her character and the fantastic run of Unbelievable Gwenpool (and also Jeff the Land Shark, who is the goodest boy). The following runs just failed to capture that magic, but I'm still happy whenever I see her pop up. And after the latest mutant-related event that just happened, I need to know that she's okay.

[@zachstasch4688]

The Hastings/Guruhiru Gwenpool run is my #1 favorite comic run of all time and I absolutely loved getting to revisit it in this video. And you did a great job with all of it. Also, I remember having the exact same journey with the Strikes Back series. I had a hard time with the first half of it and haven't read it since it was new, but it actually lives in my memory as an overall positive.

[@reebal8]

Yo it's the girl from fortnite

[@x24predator60]

That's literally why KZbin threw this video on my feed lol

[@FlameTrooper1]

@@x24predator60same

[@Dr.Cheese.]

Fortnite Gwenpool makes me act up

[@Memebreather1]

​@Dr.Cheese. yo isn't she like a teenager 🤨💀

[@SigmaRizzlerSUS]

THE GIRL FROM FORTNITE 😱😱😱😱😱😱🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧

[@Snidbert]

Honestly my biggest gripe with the Love Unlimited arc is how it had a flashback depicting Gwen's home universe. I think Gwen's home universe should never be directly depicted on-panel, because her home universe *isn't part of a comic book.*

[@CountDVB]

It's still her memories though.

[@FossilStudios316]

I’ve only read the Marvel Now! Deadpool, but I think there’s so much depth to him. The first two Deadpool movies do a great job of showing how he’s masking extreme trauma and deep down he wants love and a family.

[@CesarGameBoy.]

16:16 Fun fact about this, male Sharks don’t actually have 2 penises. What you see on their pelvic fins are actually Claspers. Unlike a penis which delivers sperm through the urethra, claspers “clasp” themselves into the walls of their mate’s oviduct which keeps it in place, as the muscles in the claspers push the sperm down the clasper. To put it simply, a penis is a tube slide, and a clasper is an escalator. They’ll get you from point A to point B, but they do it differently and are not the same.

[@redvoco02]

Her dynamic with Batroc was my oxygen for this run cycle

[@DzustComics]

I got all the trades on ebay recently and I can't wait to crash them open! You absolutely NEED to read the Duggan run in Deadpool thought! That run gave him SO MUCH more depth!

[@orangemonks894]

Hey Drake, you described the issue with gwen in the real world as "A flashback issue" and that really confuses me. Its not made entirely clear that that world is what really happened before she came to 616 or if that is simply her mind erased and sent into a made up world. You would think that the future heroes who trapped her in there would have made the world a lot more enjoyable so that she wouldn't try to escape but idk. I'd really like to understand that part cause even after reading it twice I still don't fully get it.

[@blakecook9266]

She was sent to a made up world that was supposed to put her off the path of entering the comic world. Unfortunately for the future heroes, since Gwen recognized that she was inside a comic, she escaped. But it was likely very similar to her original situation, with only the difference that she was talked out of entering that portal thing.

[@obviouslyanonymous]

I absolutely need more Dr. Strange + Gwenpool media. It's a perfect mix between a mentor dynamic like with Peter, but also a refreshing interaction for Strange as someone who has a greater understanding of universal knowledge like himself. Would love to see them become good friends in canon!

[@ianpolicarpio7969]

I'm subscribing solely because of my love for Gwenpool and how much care you put into presenting her so well 👍

[@Kingkonga200]

In my opinion, Gwen feels more like a Self-Insert character for Marvel. Think about it for a second, she’s a character from the real world that gets the ability to go to the Marvel universe and back to our reality at will, dressed like a better Gender-swapped Deadpool and does the same type a shit minus the powers and every single comic that’s made about her puts the entire Marvel comics universe centered around her like the Sun blipped out of existence and a new one came in out of nowhere, a cash-grab may be what you’d call her, but for me it sounds like a character someone at MHQ (Marvel Headquarters) made themselves into a casual Marvel comic without consequences and got to run away Scott-free. I feel she’s a character worth dropping just for the example I made, a character someone made just for their own self-centered gain.

[@Waluigilover]

Just wait till this guy sees the Fortnite skin.

[@NIDELLANEUM]

Still thinking that a key issue with Gwenpool was the timing, with all the MCU vs Fox and Sony thing. At the height of Gwenpool's success, in any other context, she would have gotten lots of extra media, and the MCU would have definitely included her in some form. However, a variant of a Sony-owned character based off a Fox-owned character meant that she was certainly in a sort of black list. Had this occurred now, maybe she would still be popular, and be included next to Deadpool

[@OrionPax1983]

I just got my first issues of gwenpool. I got 16, 17, and 19(i got them just to see if i want to read more). i love her story, and i am already hooked. I need to see more... sidenote, i pray that disney+ makes an animated gwenpool show

[@CountDVB]

Gwen being aroace would probably be more accepted if they noted that from the get-go rather than have her be simping over the other characters like we saw previously. As for Gwen overall, I feel the issue is mainly writers don't know what to do with her. Alot of them mean well, but aren't that much for creativity. Many of them lean toward novelty than depth (ironically enough, the novelty angle should work for Gwen, but it still misses). I guess the thing is figuring out what Gwen is meant for. What sort of stories would people wanna see of her? And if we figure that out, it should make things easier.

[@oneovertwo1186]

Yeah, it took me a while to figure out why it bugged me a little that they made her aroace (not wanting to be hateful, just the writing seemed off to me about it in some way) & it was definitely due to it feeling to me like her writing in Unbelievable was intending to imply her being bi in some form. (Though that's just my perspective. )

[@CountDVB]

@@oneovertwo1186 I mean, she had a confirmed crush on Miles, there was just alot of her flirty or similar behavior, which was looking to be intended as such.

[@fool8304]

It's crazy how Gwenpool Strikes Back is exactly the kind of thing that comes to mind when you think "Deadpool but a girl", and it makes you appreciate how delicately they subverted that in the original run

[@TheZeroNeonix]

I unironically want one to cosplay as one of the Poole Boys.

[@donaldwright8567]

Gwenpool:" I don't really like Deadpool comics. He's way way too cringy for my taste."😑 Deadpool: (sob) HONEY!!! Our baby girl hates me! (sob)😭 Spider-Gwen: I'm not your 'Honey', she's not our daughter, and HOW THE HECK DID I GET HERE!!!

[@chucklinnarwhal]

I started reading Gwenpool because I saw one panel of her solo run posted on the internet and was blown away by the art style, but never finished it. Guess who just ordered the omnibus after this video

[@Color_Splsh]

Oh man, you JUST learned about the Mexican Spider-Man comic? You're in for a treat.

[@heroicgangster9981]

Ngl Gwenpool should destroy the current mainline Spider-Man canon, that would make her the greatest Marvel hero

[@purplespectre]

Agreed. For a while now, I've had the idea of Gwenpool appearing in Spidey's comic and ending an issue by asking the readers to vote on whether or not Marvel should undo One More Day. Assuming the fans vote for it, the story would then have Gwen somehow do it (possibly with help from Doctor Strange) so Peter and MJ could be married again, MJ would be pregnant, and the whole Parker Industries stuff would be erased from canon. We could even have Paul reveal he was Mephisto all along and get taken down by Squirrel Girl's squirrels. The downside is this would mean Aunt May has to die from her bullet wound returning. We could have Aunt May learn about all this before they make the change and decide herself to go with it as she's ready to pass on, and she wants Peter to be happy. Before her passing, Gwenpool could take Peter and Aunt May to the Gutter Space and show them numerous panels of May's appearances throughout the decades in Marvel comics history, so this can be a big, touching send-off for her character. Then after dying, it can show Aunt May reuniting with Uncle Ben. Peter and MJ prepare to be parents, and Gwenpool leaves while congratulating herself. What do you think?

[@mr.moviemafia]

I have had this video in my “watch later” playlist for a while not realizing what I was missing out on. Gwen Poole seems like a much deeper character with more intriguing abilities than I ever could’ve imagined, this kind of 4th wall breaking storytelling speaks to me more than Deadpool’s honestly.

[@What-ish]

I just wish the omnibus for Unbelievable Gwenpool wasn't 100 fucking dollars

[@zacharyvanstanley9488]

Honestly, there are so few good Ace and Aro characters that we need the representation. I’m Ace, and I was honestly so excited to see that Gwen is Ace.

[@bananashoplifter3440]

👎

[@steampunk-llama]

Same!! And particularly an *aro*ace character at that, even with the few well written ace characters I’ve seen they almost always end up being alloromantic as well. So to see her being unabashedlydepicted as aromantic as well is just really nice as an aroace person myself

[@FolstrimHori]

​@@steampunk-llamathat's a lot of words just to say you can't get any and have deluded yourself into believing its of your own choosing.

[@reallyth0565]

@@FolstrimHori Happy 9th birthday!

[@MasutaMJ]

Marvel Fans:... Eric July: TOKENIZATION!

[@Slohan2580]

She's getting a mini revival because of Jeff now. Ive seen so many comics of Jeff featuring Gwen because Jeff is now, arguably, the most popular character in Marvel Rivals which is insanely successful at the moment.

[@commonviewer2488]

Lots of potential for a character that understands the universe so well. Hope she's cleared to make _some_ impact on her new world.

[@josephmosalem]

gj man .. good video- i literally watched this video, went and read all of og gwenpool (up to before west coast avengers), then came back to write this comment. thanks for getting me to read a comic about a character I otherwise would not have.

[@Pol_Pol_6]

1:58 you know what else is massive?

[@LimaBravoCharlie]

To be fair, I would be a little embarrassed to know one of my faves knew I existed. Props to you for holding yourself together.

[@cuttothechasenews]

There's only been one appearance of Gwenpool, That is "Unbelievable Gwenpool". Gwenpool has so much potential to be an A List character and have new villains to go against her. Because she is so powerful her villains can match her. I hope one day an actual writer gets to write her. She deserves to have her story continue on.

[@giobruchinotto]

17:51 This made me realize that between Gwen and Nadia Van Dyne, Gurihiru have been involved with two separate comic book characters who suffer from somewhat realistic depictions of manic episodes

[@NickonStark]

I just saw your old Gwenpool video yesterday, this is perfect!

[@uhjeremy4373]

I believe this is the first time im seeing your content and first time learning about Gwenpool. I love marvel and superheroes and villains and I think ill finally start collecting comics cause of you. I genuinely want to build a plethora of characters I love and its never too late to start. Thank you for this video

[@davidklein7980]

Great timing on my lunch break

[@codingincodeforkids5814]

first reply of the first coment

[@LinkEX]

7:41 I got your video in my recommendations. And to be honest, had to remember why I subscribed to you originally, because I was about to do so, lol. Then at 17:03, when you referred to that video, I remembered that this was the first video of you I watched. So yes, this is the second Gwenpool video I have watched, haha. It's been a while.

[@bm1747]

The fact that Gwenpool, far and away the most prominent of the Deadpool spinoff characters, WAS NOT in Deadpool & Wolverine, basically guaranteed that Marvel intentionally saved her for a later purpose. My bet would be on using her as a mechanism to port Miles & Gwen from Spiderverse to the MCU, possibly including Deadpool somehow.

[@CleanUpNick]

Not to mention she's now in the line up for the next Fortnite Battle Pass alongside DOCTOR DOOM of all people who they are severely hyping up... they've got plans alright

[@epobirs]

They didn't use her because she wasn't in any of the Fox Marvel movies. The core of the Deadpool and Wolverine movie was saying goodbye to that setting as the IP get churned for inclusion in the MCU, with all characters recast and rebooted.

[@vothbetilia4862]

You're over thinking it

[@Geo255420]

I should stop by the comic shop and pic up some Gwenpool. The 4th wall breaks sound AWSESEOM!

[@hudsondavis1399]

Gwenpool is one of my favorites and tbh, her coming out as AroAce meant a lot to me as someone who is Asexual! I bought her omnibus a while ago and absolutely tore through it. She’s one of my faves and I’ll gladly support her however I can.

[@asmodeusguys4472]

Seriously? That was just wayyy to preachy. Gwenpool isn't some raunchy person who has sex with every single person she meets, but there are multiple moments in her series where she goes: "yeah, this is so hot" and to my understanding, that doesn't really fly well with aroace people. And even if my info on this is wrong and I'm just talking outta my ass, this "development" of hers was not natural, it just came out of nowhere. Create an original character that fits these qualities, instead of taking established characters and labeling them something that was not intended. At the very least, make it make sense. Develop this properly. And christ, looking at the online discourse from people who ARE aroace, they don't really fuck with this due to the misrepresentation of the term, which again shows that this writer is only virtue signaling. It's all fake.

[@valerielusa8000]

@@asmodeusguys4472 asexuality and aromanticism are spectrums, many people identify as such while still experiencing those forms of attraction in small amounts of in very specific circumstances. aroace people can also experience forms of attraction that aren't sexual or romantic, such as platonic attraction. they can also be capable of intimate relationships. source: my girlfriend is aroace :>

[@BeedleTheImmortal]

​@@asmodeusguys4472arpace people recegnise that soemthing can be hot or attractive but not like it themselves

[@hudsondavis1399]

@@asmodeusguys4472 Her being AroAce was very general headcanon among her fans as she never showed interest in romance beyond sales. And Ace people can still acknowledge someone as hot and stuff. And dress sexy too. We just don’t feel the need to do the deed with other people. I am Asexual so pls don’t tell me what counts as good representation if you aren’t.

[@hudsondavis1399]

@@asmodeusguys4472 and the ENTIRE creative team on that comic were Aspec, so it’s very much not virtue signaling.

[@gameyfirebro9645]

If Gwenpool actually gets a physical LEGO minifig, Jeff the Land Shark better also be there along with her.

[@anniel6479]

I was not expecting to learn Gwenpool was Aro/Ace! I'll admit, your videos on her have been my main exposure to the character, but as an Aro/Ace person, this news made me smile. I think it fits her.

[@jameshibberd5134]

I like how you always see Allo people Saying that Gwen being Aroace makes no sense, its a "retcon" and that she was clearly never intended to be Aroace, but we see it. As soon as you ask Aroace people about her its just Every detail makes perfect sense, and every part of her character is so relatable, but most other people just don't see it.

[@anniel6479]

@@jameshibberd5134 lol, yeah, it be like that.

[@Futurebound_jpg]

One of the first things I said when leaving the Deadpool and wolverine theater was that I was surprised Gwen pool never showed up. she is so prevalent in the Deadpool comics

[@GreenGearStudio]

When I read that Gwenpool is aroace, it felt so validating. One of my favourite heroes, one of only 2 I own a full comic line of, having the same lack of sexuality as me just made me immensely happy. I'm grateful we have her amongst the small handful of ace characters

[@melasnexperience]

Same here - it's especially nice that they specified that she's AROace, since a lot of ace characters are still alloromantic, and it just makes being aroace feel... unwelcomed. I'm just afraid that Marvel will use that as an excuse to keep her on a shelf until they need her for a Pride special or, worse, a shock value death.

[@bananashoplifter3440]

Christ 🙄

[@neyou6940]

​@@bananashoplifter3440homophobic

[@CountDVB]

@@melasnexperience I mean, she's too niche for anything mainstream and killing her off would just PO people. And she isn't a bg enough character to warrant anything major there. I think at most is they'd bring her back for a Pride special if they remember she exists.

[@soomitsunami5936]

@@bananashoplifter3440for real you don’t need a whole gender for not loving people

[@thinenansflipflop]

“What’s your excuse for not subscribing” Me: *I’m a Deadpool fan*

[@litestonelgbt]

as an aroace myself, I loved the last issue with explanations about asexuality. there is so much misinformation about it that that issue tackled. I am also an ADHD Marvel fan with pink-dyed hair which makes me even more like Gwenpool tbh... I'm basically Gwenpool IRL!!

[@caterpee]

gwenpool sounds SO COOL!! i wanna read her comic now!! ALSO WHEN I TELL YOU I ALMOST CRIED HEARING SHE WAS AROACE AAAUUGUGHGHG!!!! I'm really new to comics and I just never thought there would be canon aroace rep (I'm aroace btw). like obv there's so many other things that i love about gwenpool now (her design is top tier) but seeing this character that's so amazing also be kinda like me is really nice. great video!!

[@TheTerrorOfDeath]

2:38 Deadpool isn’t a mutant except in his film

[@tvesrb]

I remember the Unbelievable Gwenpool being one of my favorite ongoing books at the time. And looking at her subsequent appearances, it probably should've ended there. I'm happy for the experience, but all good things must end. The biggest sign of respect for a character is knowing when & how to send them off imo.

[@11anh45]

Thank you Drake for introducing me to Gwenpool as well as the "Unbelievable Gwenpool" run having such a cute artstyle that kept me hooked on her character. Even though now Gwenpool isn't as prominent, I have the solo series to come back to and enjoy.

[@captinchillin]

Cute! I never knew Gwenpool strikes back became selfaware. Almost makes me want to suffer through the first chunk to get to that goodness.

[@DockOkk]

The deadpool you described is not my deadpool DP is a conflicted character thats so insane that somehow hes smart than characters like professor x when it comes to the world around him. He has emotions and his variant "Memepool" as we call it is the one for edgy 10 year olds that want deadpool but are too young for his comments with genuine emotional struggle. And yes I know this video is a year old

[@Jenamphetam1ne]

Im gonna be real for a second, as someone with BPD gwen is flawless bpd rep. Like i am not lying when i say that she exemplifies every symptom in her best runs. like basically textbook bpd. its wild how good it is. Especially because shes so likable and sells the most irrational parts of bpd and makes it feel believable. Like it makes you understand how much she hurts and why shes willing to throw her life away over things that arent really a big deal. Its such good bpd rep that it actually makes me question if shes really asexual or just believes she is because she want to be in a position where someone can leave her. AND I SHOULD CLARIFY THAT THATS NOT UNREASONABLE TO BELIEVE! i did that! Its a pretty common bpd thing. And if gwenpool isnt actually asexual and just terrified of intimacy thats gonna get a stabding ovation from me. That would be amazingly spot on and perfect rep of bpd and how it affects identity.

[@acer9494]

I fell in love with the Unbelievable Gwenpool series. I really loved that her superpower was just basically be a comic book fan that got transported to the 616 universe. Its also funny whenever she calls heroes with secret identities by their realnames my favorite instance is actually in her Venomvesre spin off where she is basically trying to keep her work boss from finding out Matt Murdock is Daredevil because of a doodle she made on some documents her boss pick up. Also let not forget that in her series 616 Doctor Strange saw a movie theater with the Doctor Strange movie and said Benedict Cumberbatch was a good choice. I really would love to see Gwen get a main comic series again. Better yet I think it be great if she got an animated show or MCU show and have the whole thing being she got transported to the show from the comics. Also if they did an animated show I think it should be a comedy series like Harley Quinn as that would fit her character perfectly.

[@ak-ub1ym]

The concept+premise of Gwenpool is really interesting. U have a lot to work and have fun with since each char lifespan is within that page or book which can lead some goofy scenarios.

[@Doomsword0]

I remember watching your original video about her and thinking “this all sounds really cool I should read some of those comics” and then I totally forgot and never did oops. But watching this video and hear about the rest of her story, I still kinda want to. Hopefully I remember this time. I actually kinda like that final explanation for it all and think it ties everything together. I feel like this whole story shows what I’ve thought for a while that some characters are great in short bursts, not every character needs to have an ongoing title or needs to appear in other characters stories. Some characters should have a handful of issues to make a trade what a team of creators have an idea then be out back for a bit. Also had heard that she came out as aroace but didn’t read about how, but I love that that was how, I think that’s a great story both for her and to introduce the less known queer identity to the mainstream (or at least as mainstream as reads the webcomics). It’s nice as someone who is myself and now I do want to read that one specifically even if not the others. Thanks for making this video Drake!

[@bigfriend9133]

reminder to read gwenpool

[@Darqueness]

Never was a fan of Dadpool but the more i hear you talk of Gwenpool and the differences the more it intrigues me. Once again you've piqued my interest, kudos on yet another great insightful vid, dude.