The Rise and Fall of the Halloween Cult of Thorn Trilogy (1988 - 1995)

[@MadBloodMatt]

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[@charliipresley]

“NOT DEAD. JUST VERY MUCH RETIRED!”

[@darkhpokinsngaming8889]

My brain read that as “Very much retarded” for some reason lol

[@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090]

He said clearly dying.

[@travzimmerman1340]

Fun fact. In part 4, Rachel's friend driving them to the hardware store for a costume is Lindsey Wallace, and Brady's friend in the hardware store is Tommy Doyle.

[@joshpeck904]

@@travzimmerman1340 Like as in they’re the actual characters? Or just the same actors?

[@devontehuntley6274]

@@joshpeck904 Characters, but this is debatable since the movie makes no real importance out of them to show they're even the same.

[@travzimmerman1340]

​@@devontehuntley6274 There's really nothing to debate, they are the same characters.

[@devontehuntley6274]

@@travzimmerman1340 That may have been the intent of the writer, but the final movie doesn't really state this and do much with said characters so for all we know they just have the same first names. They didn't even bring back the original actors so who's really gonna watch the movie and pinpoint that's Lindsey Wallace and Tommy Doyle from the original? Hardly anyone.

[@travzimmerman1340]

​@@devontehuntley6274 Literally nobody, which is the exact reason I brought it up. 😂

[@patjohnson8450]

I absolutely loved Halloween 6. It was the only movie in the franchise that had the actually fall look of the colors on the trees. The atmosphere, the tone and the creepiness made it enjoyable. The dysfunctional dynamics in the Strode family, Tommy Doyle in the boarding house. I can watch this movie multiple times in the fall and never get tired of it. This was my third favorite in the franchise after H1 and H2. The ending where Loomis told Tommy and Kara "I have a little business to attend to" was very emotional. It was Donald Pleasance and his character Dr Loomis saying goodbye to his fans, friends and family. The look in his eyes said it all. He basically surrendered to Michael and killed his character. It was his way knowing he was about to pass away. Made me very sad when he passed away. To me, the franchise ended after H6. RIP Loomis/Donald Pleasance.

[@philuntaysterlingsterling5046]

@@patjohnson8450 fun fact it was the only movie shot in the fall

[@Skilful_basics8]

@patjohnson8450 this trilogy did have a creepy fall vibe to it. Love it. To bad the plot leaved much to desire

[@tylercochran902]

4 has a great mood too IMO

[@MCJaccard4music]

Absolutely. 6 had the better mask as well. A great soundtrack too.

[@PRHILL9696]

Halloween 6 Producers cut is by far the best in the franchise. And only one that makes sense and answers all the questions that drove fans nuts for far to long

[@cookiewoman8959]

I love these three films. Call it nostalgia but I rewatch these every October and it feels like an epic event. 🎃

[@MadBloodMatt]

love it! 🎃

[@danmulholland1634]

@@cookiewoman8959 thank you I myself love 1,4-6 the most i understand why some wouldn't but 4 to me is up there

[@PRHILL9696]

Same!

[@valeriebreidenstein8362]

Same. I always rewatch them for Halloween, starting 27th of October with the OG and then one movie a day, with the finale that is H6 (Pcut) on Halloween.

[@PRHILL9696]

@@valeriebreidenstein8362 Same!

[@clarkgraves5587]

Curse is underrated, if they replaced the third act in the p cut with the third act of the theatrical cut it would be a great sequel in my opinion.

[@Dharp666]

I agree theatrical cut was less weird than the producers lol

[@KRobinson-ko1ne]

Curse need a remake even if it’s a comic book They just threw Jamie, the main character like garage and instead inserted excess crude and edgy material Weinstein is an abomination in so many senses of the word and his contribution to filmmaking (contribution is an overstatement) is no exception

[@tgriffin3059]

I think that's a really interesting point. I always liked the central part of the film, where Michael is stalking the neighborhood. But I could not abide the Producer's Cut ending, where they seem to be placing Loomis under the Thorn's influence. The change you suggest would undoubtedly make for an improvement. I've always heard that the reason we HAVE the Theatrical Cut in the first place is because test audiences reacted the same way I did.

[@dimedraweriv258]

I'll take it over this most recent trilogy any day.

[@StrikingMachine]

these movies su ck. Halloween 3 is the best..

[@therhapsodist976]

Don't try that Halloween shit with me.

[@deontaedouglas]

@@therhapsodist976 That was kinda funny

[@therhapsodist976]

Yes, the montage opening in Return Of Michael Myers is perfection; hauntingly beautiful.

[@MadBloodMatt]

100% 🎃🎃

[@Stefan_Gerards]

"Loomis essentially just sounding like me on the toilet after i have some of that red sauce" 😂😂😂

[@kurtisviktor3314]

Mrs Blankenship’s talk with Danny is a memorable moment in part 6.

[@therhapsodist976]

The third cardinal sin is Michael Myers needing to be rescued by the man in black. He looks so pitiful with his head hanging low in his cell.

[@PRHILL9696]

Man in Black created Michael

[@hectorthafin]

Awesome video. Pretty cool you and your wife took your engagement photos by that area where Halloween 4 was filmed

[@therhapsodist976]

Killing off Rachel Caruthers was the second cardinal sin of Revenge Of Michael Myers. She deserved so much better.

[@KRobinson-ko1ne]

As a fan of the movie I concur She should have died later in the film protecting Jamie

[@MadBloodMatt]

Agreed my friend.

[@bujilou]

@@MadBloodMatt no actually, my rewrite would be Jamie stabbing and killing Rachel instead of her foster mom. Talk about a hard hit to an already great ending. The babysitter who risked her life for this little girl gets it taken away by that same child. TRAGIC

[@patrickperalta59]

@@MadBloodMatt Halloween 4 was good and I loved the ending a full circle moment with Jamie in the costume holding the bloody Scissors.....like her Uncle in the first movie...........I only wish they focused more on Jamie in part 5.. as maybe taking over from Michael.......my thoughts on part 5.....they should have done a "Who done it" mystery type story.....have dead bodies being found with Jamie disappearing at times......and you have the who is killing everyone Jamie or Michael Mystery but they chose to do .........the Thorn story that they went with was not good....oh they could have made the story better....but they didn't.

[@patrickperalta59]

@@MadBloodMatt one thing about part 6 is we find out who the man in black was... Dr. Terence Wynn (played by Robert Phalen in the original Halloween film). played by actor Mitchell Ryan.. the character was seen in the original movie.....he was the guy talking to Loomis in the parking lot.....also Mitchell Ryan played in the TV Series Dark Shadows as Burke Devlin.

[@DG-nb6fe]

Halloween 2 is technically the very beginning of the Thorn trilogy, as SAM HAIN is inscribed on the classroom chalkboard. 🤷‍♂️

[@Seniorpoops]

@@DG-nb6fe nah fam

[@SuperBrooklynite007]

@@Seniorpoops yah fam

[@PRHILL9696]

Good point

[@martyguy8185]

​@alfonsoruiz5844 who's "fam"?

[@Soxfandan]

@@DG-nb6fe It’s one word (pronounced more like “Sowin”) and it’s an Irish word that was the beginning of the Celtic new year. Halloween evolved from it and it predates this movie series by hundreds of years. Definitely was not invented just to push this Thorn cult.

[@abottleofbeer4349]

I love the three thorn films. You’re insane. That’s what I like about you. Subscribed

[@MadBloodMatt]

😂 I can tell you’re gonna fit in nicely around here. 🍻

[@jpwfilmarchives8076]

It always gets me In Halloween 5 when Jamie goes up to the attic and there are lit candles everywhere. Just the thought that there is an off camera moment in which Michael is setting a bunch of candles in silence always seems comical to me for some reason.

[@MadBloodMatt]

😂😂 true

[@tgriffin3059]

In the original, he takes time to locate the local cemetery....finds his sister's grave...lifts the tombstone...carries it to the car....spends hours driving around with it in the car...waits til Annie is dead...then GOES BACK to the car to fetch the headstone(maybe he had it stashed close by)...then arranges it in time for Laurie Strode's arrival(along with two other corpses in the closet and cabinet)...Michael was always like an artist of the macabre. Just one of numerous traits that set him apart from typical cinematic evildoers. The business with the candles is not really anything new...

[@travzimmerman1340]

​@MadBloodMatt When Jamie goes up the stairs Rachel's corpse is in the rocking chair but when she goes down the stairs her body isn't gone.

[@Tedakin]

They definitely should have kept the producer's cut ending in the theatrical version.

[@joeylodes]

I saw Halloween 5 in the Lynbrook theater on Long Island, NY and it was , to date … the most hysterical movie theater experience of my life. I started cutting jokes at the film after realizing , yeah this isn’t going to be a great outing for Michael Myers …. Crowd started laughing. And then other people started digging on the film while it was going. I mean the entire movie … and no one complained. No one. We were just teeing off on this movie. The laughs were better than what was on the screen. It was like sitting in a real life Mystery Science Theater 3000 Great times … I wish we had that on vid.

[@Sammydx1]

Halloween 4 introduced me to the franchise. So I'm very loyal to 4 I was 8

[@Dharp666]

Also my mom and dad rented halloween 6 on directv when I was 7 in 95 3 day rental and I watched it over and over for 3 days lol I guess I had cool parents

[@MadBloodMatt]

Hell yeah! My kinda parents haha 🎃

[@christopherfeeney1962]

Hey MadBlood, love the vid! I checked you out upon the suggestion of Frank&Darren from TSL!

[@MadBloodMatt]

Awesome, thanks for coming over! Glad you enjoyed the video 🎃

[@joeybruh916]

First time watching your channel. Subscribed. I can’t get enough of Horror and Michael Myers.

[@MadBloodMatt]

Welcome on in 🎃 it’s a wild place around here. Buckle up.

[@larsmarcon2652]

Halloween 4 has to be one of my favorites next to the original for sure ❤

[@larsmarcon2652]

Halloween 5 you gotta have a few beers and maybe something else and sit back and laugh it's just fun 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@MadBloodMatt]

😂

[@KOFKYO2012]

I really like this breakdown of the thorn trilogy. Look forward to more of theses in the future.

[@MadBloodMatt]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@The_Whiskey_Cart]

Totally agree with you on this trilogy. Curse is my favorite of the three, with the second being my least favorite. Love the overall fall vibes of all three! Halloween 4 and Curse are super rewatchable! With that said, #4, I never feel ANY connection between Jamie and Lori at all. Jamie feels completely unique to me, although I really enjoy her character. #5 just feels kinda empty and sad, especially back at the house at the end. I never enjoy those parts. Curse is so perfectly 90’s, and I love the 90’s internet blog research going on. Great breakdown!

[@MadBloodMatt]

Great points, I didn’t think about that but I think you nailed it. Thanks for watching!

[@mjw1978]

There are many holes in this trilogy of films (#6 specifically for me), but I have a hugely nostalgic love for both 4 and 5. And #5 gets a lot of heat for some of the nonsensical plot and characters, but I have a soft spot for it. And the opening/intros of both 4 and 5; just badass.

[@valeriebreidenstein8362]

6 only has tons of plotholes if you watch the theatrical version, that butchered the story and cut out tons of important parts. That's why the plot in that version makes no sense. But if you watch the Pcut most of the plotholes from the Tcut don't exist.

[@Shoofyou10]

Part 4 will always my favorite sequel. It feels like the perfect mix of Halloween and Friday the 13th. The kills feel very Friday to me. And Jamie and Rachel are both great. And I love the mob coming after Michael at the end.

[@MadBloodMatt]

Great points. It’s a fun ass movie no doubt.

[@danmulholland1634]

4 is amazing

[@PRHILL9696]

Halloween 6 Producers cut is by far the best in the franchise. And only one that makes sense and answers all the questions that drove fans nuts for far to long

[@valeriebreidenstein8362]

Agree. It's also my absolute favorite of the franchise. And the ending is nice as well. Fans just sh*t on it because they don't understand the meaning behind that final act. Michael (hopefully) being free for the first time in decades and Loomis emotional moment. It's such a nice way to end the timeline.

[@PRHILL9696]

@@valeriebreidenstein8362 agree 100 percent

[@williamcoslosky]

You 100% nailed this video.

[@MadBloodMatt]

Thanks 🫡

[@Dylan-cu4ty]

Would definitely be interested in seeing your ranks of the *Halloween* movies and other horror series.

[@PapaJRuiz]

This week has been rough for me and I found your channel and to be honest all your videos have helped me get through the week 💯🥂

[@MadBloodMatt]

I’m glad they’ve helped. I hope the rest of the week goes better 🤝

[@amphetamean66X]

I love these films and I'm sorry but 5 although has it's issues is really good too. I love the scene where Harris is hiding in the laundry vent. That scene is terrifying and really stuck with me when I saw it as a kid.

[@elijahsmith3457]

Now we need a Halloween ranking 🎃

[@JohnSmith-lk5om]

Cult of Thorn had the best way to give a definitive explanation of how & why the evil resonated very well within Michael. Except the Director’s weren’t particularly well suited for writing a dark theme if that magnitude for that type of nuance atmosphere.

[@BarthBennett-qv5ky]

I grew up with that trilogy and it was more intense and scary to me than the recent ones

[@SankaPagodinho]

You know it won't bo good when you see that in Halloween 4 Michael's hands are burnt but in Halloween 5 they just forgot about this detail 😂

[@KingSe7en]

coolest engagement photo location!

[@ray8507]

This was really good. i just subscribed

[@MadBloodMatt]

Thanks! Welcome to the Mad House 🤝

[@johnsell2686]

The producers cut of the curse of Michael Myers is insane....

[@DanielMussen-ob7uo]

Wes Cravens A Nightmare On Elm Street 1994 and 1998 and 2002 and 2006 and 2010 and 2014

[@alexmoore7938]

Recently found your Channel thank you for getting me through my work day!

[@MadBloodMatt]

No problem! Thanks for watching!

[@richardstange5939]

I’m a huge fan of the thorn storyline. Halloween 4 and 6 are two of my favorites in the franchise. Halloween 5 is also a good movie to me. It is not as good as 4 and 6 to me, but it is still awesome.

[@bretthumphrey6821]

My favorite love halloween 4 5 6 there the best

[@garygrassler09]

Halloween 4 is so good.

[@donovandelaney3171]

There's two Halloween H20 timelines. The second H2O is in this timeline. Six gets retconned by H20.

[@travzimmerman1340]

H20 is a cinematic abortion

[@valeriebreidenstein8362]

Actually H20 was written as H7: The Return of Laurie Strode and should have taken place around 3 years after H6 (Pcut likely because Loomis was killed in the theatrical cut but died of old age in H20's canon). That's why there are so many "plotholes" that only make sense with 4-6 in canon, plus there are tons of hints towards those 3 movies. There was even a scene when Laurie mourns Jamie's death after hearing about it from a student.

[@valdon116]

I LOVE pt 6. 666 version was even better

[@JaceD4V1S88]

They should make a new series that finishes the thorn story line

[@larrytalbot3824]

Tbh, I only ever think of Halloween 5 & 6 as being ‘thorn’ films since the whole cult thing is never even hinted at or referred to in Halloween 4, I suppose you could include it retroactively because of the Samhain stuff mentioned in H2 & since we briefly flashback to the end of 4 in the 5 recap, but It just never really felt like part of the same storyline for me.

[@fadingnebulous]

OK… hear me out. “Halloween 5” probably has the best chase sequence in the franchise (the laundry shoot scenario is terrifying, especially because it involves a child!) and the death of Tina’s boyfriend Mike by garden claw is one of Michael Myers’ most iconic and distinct kills. It’s not “Halloween: Resurrection” bad (even though mute traumatized kids with ESP, lazy death cults and nothingburger side characters do bring this movie down a bit.).

[@MadBloodMatt]

I think you make some good points. What takes me out of the laundry chase scene a little bit is how the hell does she climb up and down that slippery laundry shoot lol.

[@OnMyGrizzly]

I believe they had to make Halloween 4 & 5 to be a mystery for Halloween 6

[@therhapsodist976]

One thing I've never understood about The Curse Of Michael Myers is that everyone seems to assume that Jamie Lloyd was impregnated by Uncle Shape. Who's to say it wasn't Dr. Wynn or one of his cronies? I always loved this movie; lots of nostalgia.

[@KRobinson-ko1ne]

It’s just people like Weinstein taking the cheap way out: having no real respect for the franchise, dismissing it as nothing but schlock and oversaturating the whole thing with excessive gore, nudity and crude material

[@VultureLivesAgain]

I think the Producer's Cut makes it clear that Michael is the father.

[@mac888spectral7]

I mean, I don't want to be too graphic here, but when Jamie is tied down and pleads with Michael not to hurt her, the camera pans between her legs from Michael's POV 🤷

[@mac888spectral7]

Edit: Just realized you weren't referring to the Producer's Cut. Nonetheless it's not ambiguous at all in that version.

[@gregwilliamsjr8901]

Thanks for the video. I appreciate how you break down the movies you’re covering. Very refreshing. Unfortunately I have to disagree with you on Halloween 5 being the most boring film in the franchise. Respectfully, for me that title will always remain with Halloween Resurrection. From the way Micheal looks and is portrayed , to the plot, and everyone’s favorite Busta Rhymes. Look forward to seeing more from you in the future. Thanks

[@MadBloodMatt]

Thanks for watching!

[@alexandergonzie1200]

Though Paul Rudd's Tommy Doyle was a bit of a weirdo, he's better than Anthony Michael Hall's. I wish the stronger kills/gore in the theatrical version were in the Producer's Cut, that's pretty ironic imo.

[@christopherfeeney1962]

My guilty pleasure is The Thirn Trilogy, i have to admit. However, in my perfect world they're a single different trilogy: Halloween 78, Halloween 2, Halloween 4. Done. Like Dave McRae says: can you IMAGINE had they just stopped at 4?! With THAT ending?! It would have been LEGENDARY!

[@MadBloodMatt]

Love Dave and I agree! Would’ve been great.

[@kennypham3856]

There's a nostalgic 'going to Blockbuster to rent a video,' retro, vibe to the Thorn trilogy!

[@MadBloodMatt]

That’s a great point. I love that description of these movies. 📼

[@kennypham3856]

@@MadBloodMatt Haha thank you!

[@channelmeaspirit]

As Far as I am concerned, there is NO THORN TRILOGY!!! Halloween 4 has NO MENTION of Thorn, call it the Jamie Lloyd Trilogy!!!

[@bayerhead]

Return and revenge are solid 80's slashers. The 3rd one coming so long after in the mid 90's just didn't have the same feel and it was all over the place. I'm sure everyone's heard that fan fiction theories about season of the witch tying in Michaels mask but it's actually a good idea and they could have done it in curse and even in kills or ends.

[@therhapsodist976]

The Revenge Of Michael Myers' first cardinal sin was ret-conning the ending of Return Of Michael Myers. I wouldn't mind a legacy sequel called The Return Of Jamie Lloyd. Imagine her being a lifelong patient at Smith's Grove's Sanitarium, voluntarily. She's terrified to return to society, because she doesn't trust herself, but she also fears that Uncle Shape will come back for her.

[@KRobinson-ko1ne]

She was never supposed to be the main villain though The purpose of the twist was to establish that she COULD grow up to bear Michael’s curse. A symptom of this condition is, of course, the telepathybond she and Michael share. This builds up beautifully to the scene in the Meyers house where she taps into HIS lost humanity and he removes his mask Of course 6 fucks everything up snubbing Harris her role and throwing Jamie away like garbage

[@MadBloodMatt]

I could get down with this. Man, I hope one day Danielle Harris gets to play Jamie one last time.

[@ABSF49]

My favorite one is halloween 6. But i watch them all every October

[@Atom.Storm.]

I loved the Rob Zombie pumpkin mask look for Myers. The long hair, the pumpkin mask was super intimidating.

[@MadBloodMatt]

I agree.

[@licechrispies]

I appreciate the nostalgia this films bring me as a 90s kid, but they feel a little goofier each time I watch them. The threads for a cohesive trilogy are there, but each movie kinda derails the story of the last

[@MadBloodMatt]

I agree.

[@travzimmerman1340]

2 is better than the original.

[@AmyCherryLMAO]

@@travzimmerman1340 2 is amazing

[@MCJaccard4music]

Outside of the original two the "Thorn " Trilogy is my favorite of the entire franchise. The Curse of Myers.

[@bjgalindo3275]

Michael Myers’s was at his strongest during his thorn possession H6

[@tgriffin3059]

For sheer invincibility, this was his peak. And that kind of makes sense, in a way, since most real men are more powerful around their late 30's and early 40's than as younger men. I found this emphasis to be most noticeable in 4. He was like a slab of granite.

[@ChristinaHeadley-sk2ig]

John Strode's death in part 6 is my absolute favorite of the whole franchise!

[@joshallen100]

I like the pumpkin in the background. Where'd you buy it from?

[@MadBloodMatt]

Spirit

[@mattjones9591]

Really enjoyed this look at my favorite timeline of the Halloween franchise, great job! You do really good work, keep it up and look forward to future videos!

[@MadBloodMatt]

Thank you so much! 🫡

[@Sammydx1]

15:00 Thats a good question !!! Does Michael just wonder the halls. Hi Mike,

[@roninxix4428]

No way is Halloween 5 worse than the one one with Busta Rhymes.

[@jrome9825]

Great vid ❤

[@onedudethelegend]

The original creators of 4-5 definitely weren’t planning on doing what H6 did. It fell into the wrong hands at the last minute and they crapped on Jamie Lloyd’s character. It was so bad they had to retcon back to Laurie Strode 🙄

[@ChuckPTV]

Best timeline wish they continue with Stephen Lloyd etc

[@ChiGuy251]

Another thing about Curse is while Jamie's been captive of this cult for six years, no one thought to at least search for her all that time? With Jamie gone and Michael's whereabouts at the very least unknown Loomis just retires? A man who doggedly would dedicate himself to stopping Michael just gave up knowing he was still out there? I just always thought that was strange.

[@valeriebreidenstein8362]

I think the scene is only shown in the Pcut. But we get a flashback to the end of Halloween 5, when we see Jamie getting taken by the Cult and when they drive away, there is a giant explosion that blows up the police department. That's why everyone believes that Michael and Jamie died in that explosion (there is likely no evidence of the cult taken Michael and Jamie).

[@Dreaklock]

The Thorn Trilogy is the BEST trilogy in the entire Halloween franchise.

[@KenKopper]

Besides the crappy mask, I actually like Halloween 4. I first watched it in my high school auditorium.

[@inutero10]

Halloween 6 is amazing.

[@canaldopaim]

Finaly someone who is not so against the Thorn explanation for Michael's evil. It never bothers me. Of course, it is better to be a mistery, but if you're going to continue, that's a way to justify and extend the mitology. It's funny that was a trend in the early 90's with the big 3. Freddy had his powers from the Dream Sperm Demons, Jason from the Necronomicon and Myers from the Thorn. I think curse has the most decent explanation from the three. It's not so overly fantastical and is attached to the halloween holiday. I prefer the Thorn than the "Michael was a product of the enviroment serial killer trope" from the Zombie Remake.

[@dilwindersingh-x7b]

wow i use to run into this guy on dayz didn't know he had a YT channel for movies

[@MadBloodMatt]

Haha. I miss DayZ

[@KombaynNikoladze2002]

While not the best movie in the franchise, for me Halloween 4 is the most enjoyable to watch.

[@georgecoull1883]

Spot on

[@MM-cu9kd]

Love your content also great pumpkin 🎃 in your background 👍👍

[@MadBloodMatt]

Thanks! 🎃

[@fatu1738]

Curse never got the sequel it deserved. Paul's Tommy Doyle was like a Loomis of his own. In addition to the orange fall tones that make a good impact on the film including in H4, it also has a blue hue in most of its horror scenes.

[@MadBloodMatt]

A curse sequel would’ve been fun especially with a Paul Rudd return.

[@valeriebreidenstein8362]

Would have loved to get a sequel to H6 (Pcut) with Paul's Tommy taking over for Donald's Loomis (which was Daniel's plan when writing H6 and the first draft for h7).

[@acbigshot01]

They call it a pagoda. Also, halloween 5 mask is one of my faves

[@silverspringsifayefaye866]

I enjoy 5. It’s Resurrection & Ends that are the worst for me

[@joen8529]

4-5- AND 6 rule; and the real and best timeline, by far, is 1-2-4-5-6.

[@JamesMalone-x5i]

Yeah, part four Michael looks like a guy standing in the freezing cold with his eye holes looking weird and the shoulder pads.

[@josamaroo]

Halloween 4 is my favorite film ever. I fell in love with it as a kid in the 80's and it's amazing. The opening credits are the best “Halloween” feeling moment in the entire franchise and the kills are also some of the best, especially the thumb kill to the EMT. That ending with Jamie turning evil is also epic and is really the thing that sets this movie apart from all of the others. Halloween 5 is not good except for 3 scenes which are the vent scene, the ending at the police station, and by far the best scene is when Dr. Loomis uses Jamie as bait to lure Michael into the chain trap. Halloween 6 has one of the best masks and a great electrocution kill but that's it.

[@kalelslash]

Where did you get that awesome Halloween 2 pumpkin in the background?

[@kcsollers8552]

I feel like the inability to talk was a comparison to Michael never speaking a word.

[@CharlesTueni-lt9fn]

Personally i loved Curse of Thorn theory.Explain why he was able to survive from so many ways who should have killed him for good.Curse of Thorn make the person who posses almost impossible to kille by natural weapons.

[@robbymartinez7252]

Does the producer's cut of six change your outlook on the film?

[@DanielMussen-ob7uo]

Wes Cravens A Nightmare On Elm Street 1984 and 1985 and 1987 and 1988 and 1989 and 1991

[@CandieP]

I was through with Halloween 5 once the cops allowed him to keep his monster mask on in his jail cell. Like I need to see that Mugshot 😅

[@MadBloodMatt]

I was 100% thinking the same thing 😂 wtf are these Haddonfield cops doing 😆

[@CandieP]

@@MadBloodMatt 🤣🤣

[@josephamato2031]

I like this trilogy. Halloween 5 was the weakest. They continued the time-line in the comics which I loved. Halloween 5 better then rob zombies movies + the one with busta and Halloween ends

[@waynegotke5502]

You do realize Halloween 4 had nothing to do with Thorn right??? Calling it The Thorn trilogy was a fan concept. The creators of these movies have never once used that fan term. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@DanielMussen-ob7uo]

John Carpenters Halloween 1978 and 1981 and 1982 and 1988 and 1989 and 1995

[@martyguy8185]

Halloween 4 is ONLY considered part of the "trilogy" cause of jamie loyd....thats it. Technically its only 5 and 6 with that story arch. The original H2, could be included for diehard fans with the "samhain" reffrence. And if H2 is included, you have to include H3.....that played out alot of the "mystical" aspect of the holiday meaning as well as a "sort of" explination

[@KyleJWest-vn9kn]

I love Halloween 4 and 5, they are my favorite of the Halloween sequels. It’s fun the way they introduced their own story and cast of characters. It’s a shame that part 6 is such a cluster of a film. The “thorn” storyline deserved a better ending.

[@DWtechfan]

The overall problem with the "Thorne Trilogy" is that the films were rushed and there wasn't a single director with a vision for all three of the movies. There were big ideas that could've been used to explain Michael and his origins but it was very erratic and poorly executed. Imagine each film as bits of potential good ideas in the form of jigsaw puzzle pieces that don't fit together. That's the Thorne Trilogy. Each film has elements of continuity with the Halloween franchise but they don't really connect and you can tell the ideas came from separate writers who only wanted to finish the film they were on. So nothing actually fits together in a coherent or logical way and most of the characters are inconsistent too. I still watch the trilogy and enjoy each film for what it is, which is something you have to do with any horror franchise of films. Especially the ones with many sequels, you gotta pick the things you like about it and enjoy those things. Otherwise, the annoyances ruin the films for you.

[@thisisjayeverydayyy]

I gotta say I’m not the biggest fan of this trilogy but I will say that part 4 is damn near a perfect stand alone Halloween movie. I just wish the mask was greater, like the one used in Halloween/halloween 2. The funny thing is the poster for Halloween 4 has his older mask from the first two movies lol

[@Jeff-nb8iy]

I respectfully wish people would stop referring to this as a triology as it involves two other movies. It is pentalogy (which isn’t as fun to say but more appropriate). Also I disagree on the mask in H4. The mask they portrayed on the cover of the movie would’ve been bad a$$, but the one we got… not so much. Bandaged up Michael was cool, but this is “the return of Michael Myers” so I think we need the iconic mask. I think these movies deserve a remake (just not from Blumhouse 😉).