The Rise and Fall of Rob Zombie's Halloween 1 & 2 (2007 - 2009)

[@catherinesquires8743]

I knew “Mikey” wasn’t here to play when he was as brutal to Danny Trejo as anyone else. He was good to him! :(

[@MadBloodMatt]

💯 !! That was a massive moment in Mikey’s character arch in these two movies. It really showed you who he had become

[@tonyjr3373]

@@catherinesquires8743 I was good to you Mikey 😭

[@jermaine8573]

Man just Michael's height alone being so big and fuckn tall behemoth was very effective , realistically in real life can you imagine somebody that dam huge chasing aroundthe streets with a knife , thats really terrifying if you think about it

[@acbigshot01]

True. I have a neighbor thats huge as can be. 6 foot 5 but a gentle giant. Someone being that big but pure evil is so menacing. Like there’s no taking that guy down

[@DaveCurry-p3b]

😮 you know I totally agree who's going to see a Jason versus Michael I love to see him and Ken kirzinger as Jason go again to see each other if I was going to see two giant horror movie actors as Jason and Michael it would be him and versus Ken her singer who played Jason in favor of Jason I wouldn't mind seeing Michael versus Jason movie I would rather see those two going at each other I would stick around for that yeah there is something famous is Darth Vader as Star wars whoever played David Frost was a big dude back in the seventies and eighties rest in peace and same with James Earl Jones as far as that he was pretty terrifying you know he's a bodybuilder he's about 6 ft 7 or 6:00 for his size so the bigger the actor is yes it is very terrifying having those characters coming after you but I totally agree with you

[@Hysetzzz]

I was so sad about the janitors death but it definietly showed how truly evil Michael is

[@MadBloodMatt]

Definitely a key moment for Michaels character in the two movies.

[@Lauren...]

A lot of people criticize Scout Taylor Compton's performance or the way she was written in Halloween II as being "insufferable" or whatever, but I have severe PTSD as well and have actually put in Zombie's Halloween II because of how well I connect with her portrayal of the effects of severe trauma in these films. Zombie's Halloweens were all about trauma response, and it's great that you talked about it here! : )

[@MadBloodMatt]

:) Thank you

[@sarahjane439]

I love Zombies take on this movie Franchise. I remember seeing these in the Theater and it was so loud, gritty, disturbing, scary etc even makes a person think and even through all of that I enjoyed it. Now I will love 1978 and part2 to my core. But for all the aggravation Zombie had to go through I still feel they are well done. I wasn't surprised that it was dirty and gritty that's his style so knew that was gonna be the baseline but welll done all the actors did extremely well. ❤

[@THESHAPE04]

First one is good, second one is like drinking hotdog water.

[@distructivefuture]

how does this guy only have 1,6K subs

[@IzzyItachi]

Because KZbin hates promoting good content 😂

[@berserkstroke]

Give him a couple years and if he stay active it will have over 100k easily

[@jinn91]

Rob turned Michael from pure evil to a victim who's had enough.

[@richborn6700]

Rob Zomibes Halloween did succeed in at least changing the timeline. Instead of 5yo Myers in 1963, he's about 10 in likely 1990-1991. If they do another Halloween franchise someday the HAVE to move on from 1978, probably to 1998 to update the chronology

[@Tennisplayer123]

I really liked the first one. Second one had its moments (the bathroom scene killing the cops daughter was savage). Was it a perfect cinematic masterpiece from a technical standpoint? A lot say no but I liked the childhood angle seeing what shaped him and I think both of the movies are the most savage in terms of how viscous MM was with his killing. I totally agree that MM started to become more spooky in the movies vs scary but MM was absolutely viscous in the Rob Zombie movies. My least favorite part was the spiritual white horse angle in the 2nd movie.

[@archibaldsalyards926]

Thanks for the review!!! I actually think the Rob Zombie HALLOWEEN films better than the last 2 Bloomhouse films.

[@kainlives7958]

Bad taste

[@crystalshaw8744]

Also: Blumhouse.

[@shanethrelfall416]

@@kainlives7958Taste is subjective

[@kainlives7958]

@@shanethrelfall416 yours is terrible

[@MichaelGraham-h9j]

Man I remember seeing the first zombie Halloween and thinking it was great and I still do and I was so hyped for his sequel and within the first 40 minutes av never wanted to punch a director so hard

[@ShaneKixmiller]

Arth thoroughly enjoy Rob zombies films. And I especially love his two Halloween movies. They are very polarizing, but I feel that they are a unique couple of chapters within this very storied franchise.

[@banefaqs8468]

Despite the flaws, I believe these are worthy titles. Child Mikey murdering that kid in the woods with the big stick still haunts me.

[@Sam-o5u5m]

If I was a billionaire, I would give Rob Zombie any amount he wants to make Halloween the way HE WANTS IT TO BE !!!! I love his vision on this Franchise.

[@karmitdafruge1]

I always love that moment in 1 where michaels sister is joking with her adoptive family

[@ryanbenson4610]

A lot of Rob Zombie’s Halloween movie seemed like he wanted to make Friday the 13th.

[@MadBloodMatt]

I'd be down for a Rob Zombie Friday the 13th

[@filmgurumoviereviews4690]

Zombie talked about how he only really enjoyed doing the stuff that was different from what we saw in the original film. To me, both films are interpration of the series. Is the first Zombie Halloween as good as the original film. But it's a great interpretation of it. What i liked about halloween 2 was that it felt so original and that Meyers was a nomad. The second film felt more like a Zombie movie. Kind of like Tim Burton did with Batman Returns.

[@DavidGutierrez-ib7rg]

Love RZ Halloween movies. Just wish he woulda let someone else write the dialogue.

[@brothercharlesjohnson]

I LOVED H1 and still rewatch it every Halloween season. H2 lost me at the “dream sequence” reveal. The rest of it I hated.

[@imauniryne6757]

Same the dream thing reminds me of Jason and his mother wish it was left out in Halloween two wasn’t needed

[@ms.carriage6867]

The only good thing Zombie did was make a really devastating adult Michael in the first film. However the first film was too long and showing a young Michael was stupid. Trailer trash grows up damaged.....trope alert!!! Middle class suburban Michael randomly kills his sister for no real reason...intriguing . His second film was a cluster fuck of half baked ideas and poor execution

[@jaymierae9890]

Agree. Although I think we’re in the minority in this thread. 😂

[@ms.carriage6867]

@@jaymierae9890 🤣 for sure

[@richborn6700]

Evil is supposed to be able to come from anywhere, even a sleepy suburban midwestern town. Meanwhile at the Meth lab down the street exists the RZ Myers family.

[@mjslawrence9554]

Really do love H2. It's so unique.

[@nateholden24]

Great video bro! You gained a sub out of me

[@MadBloodMatt]

Appreciate it Nate! Welcome to the Mad House

[@thepangwin902]

It was important that he mixed the kid was probably already a psychopath but also was abused. So he doesn't have to debate in the film if it is nature or nurture. It could have been one or the other or both.

[@KyleJWest-vn9kn]

“Halloween II” has really grown on me over the years, I’ve actually come to enjoy it quite a bit. I encourage everyone to take the time to track down the THEATRICAL cut of the film, though. It’s a much better version of the film. The dialog is cleaner. The characters are far more likeable. One of those rare instances where the studio was actually correct in forcing the director to make changes to the film.

[@jettloaf]

Like you Matt, I love the mask, Mane as grown Michael, & how Zombie made him scary again. In H2, if he would of cut 90% of mom & the white horse, had more "Halloween music", I'd like it more. I also prefer the DC ending. 🎃

[@davidcurry332]

Yeah, I like both series. I have them both new year channel. Happy Thursday.

[@calebsliger4997]

I enjoy 1 I was super impressed the first time I saw when it came out and then 2 just upset me

[@biospark4758]

What makes Michael so effective in the original duology for me is that there isn’t anything you can point to and say “if this was different about his life, all this could’ve been avoided.” I feel like it would’ve been more effective if the movie depicted the Myers family as a normal, stable household, but still have Michael be “off,” and still culminate in the murder of the bully. There’s this misconception that sympathetic, relatable antagonists are inherently better than unsympathetic ones, and I think Michael is an example of why that’s not true

[@ChrisMortJr.]

There's no real need to demystify Michael the way they did. I don't need to know about why he kills people, I just need to know that he does and I don't want him to be around me

[@sublimazed]

fair, some people do enjoy back stories and lore building though.

[@ethanmosier4313]

I’ve always wondered what Rob Zombie could do with Nightmare on Elm Street with how weird and kinda creepy his dream scenes are in the second Halloween. Though I’d worry he’d go too far with what Freddy is about like the Plat Dunes remake did.

[@MadBloodMatt]

Good point. And with modern tech I bet those dream sequences would be wild.

[@RadioofHorror]

I was at a table with Tyler Mane in 2022 and loved him loved talking to him and he had some people come over and preach their hearts out about how these are better then any of the other sequels to the franchise, one person ( whos opinion if you dont match with on any subject he makes you his enemey) said he fights with people all the time about how wrong they are about these films. I dont get the obession its a ROb ZOmbie Universe and I think its connected to 31 and LOrds of Salem on some crazy level ( besides Sherri being in all 4)

[@shanethrelfall416]

I’ve now got Nazareth’s Love Hurts playing in my head

[@shanethrelfall416]

I would love another instalment of the Rob Zombie H series But one funded by someone willing to give him full license to do what he wants pretty much

[@phildrewsomething]

The RZ Halloween first act didn't offend me cuz that's how it was growing up in my household lmao

[@isaiahprettypaint8877]

Ive only watched two videos you have a new subscriber

[@haileyshannon7548]

I think they focused way too much on Michael as a kid. Also, it’s obvious the baby is Laurie

[@thefinalgirl3639]

I absolutely love Rob Zombie's H2. It's my 3rd favorite in the franchise right after the original and H2O. 😊

[@MadBloodMatt]

RZ H2 has some great moments. A VERY up and down movie for me but I get why people love it.

[@Sammydx1]

I know I'm in the minority here. But i love RZ Halloween 1 and 2. And no. I'm not a RZ fanboy at all. I love the atmosphere. I love grim. I love the trashy southern Illinois small town vibe. Because alot of southern illinois is exactly that. And i love part 2 because MM is living off the land ! He hides during the day and walks at night. I absolutely love that. I feel thats what alot of the Halloween movies miss.

[@betanzo9989]

I would love to see Rob Zombie’s take on the Texas chainsaw massacre, I feel like he’d knock it out the park with his directing style

[@javi__...]

@betanzo9989 he did that already with house of 1000 corpses and devils rejects. He isn't going to bring anything that wasn't done better in the first one.

[@stephenbanks5860]

He can bring a back story like he did for Halloween.

[@georgenelawson9917]

The opening to Halloween one is hilarious lol such awful dialogue but delivered in awesome fashion and I agree with dude Judith looks good in this lol

[@KeeksToonzReact]

Rob Zombie Halloween II really had gave me nightmares lol it was pretty damn good, Annie's death saddened me though 😢 and Sheriff Brackett breaking down. I NEVER cried in a horror film lol like this one. The damn song didn't help either.

[@lomaudit9674]

They'll never replace the original 2, but I liked these better than the Thorn Triolgy (4, 5, 6), more than Resurrection, and the last one.

[@Bat_Dad_116]

Imo RZH, theatrical version, is the best movie of the entire franchise.

[@KyleALarkins]

Love the kill but the actress wasn’t very good. It was almost as if she screamed turned around to see the hill and decided “okay, time for me to die now”. Another part of me sees it as her thinking about how to do the shot technically correct while forgetting to act.

[@bigrod342]

I think alot of influence for villain back stories in horror movies was spawned by Wes craven and a nightmare on elm Street and how big Freddy became, and looking back most killers had a reason of what made them killers even in the 60's. however the non story of what made Michael a murderer was something that made him the icon he is. I think that made alot of people turned off by both robs h1 origin and the fact they made Laurie his sister in earlier sequels. But the story has to evolve somehow so it doesn't affect my viewing on it I try to take sequels and reimagings as a entity of their own greatly inspired by the original. Thanks for the reviews!!!!!! Liked and subscribed!!

[@MadBloodMatt]

I like your mindset of taking sequels and reimagining’s as sorta an entity of their own but still inspired by a classic. Welcome to the sub club or the madhouse I like to call it 😉

[@bigrod342]

@@MadBloodMatt thanks for rolling out the welcome Matt, 🙏 I'm so punny 😆

[@omaraguilar1317]

Ok so hear me out, Micheal Myers saw that his family was well on their way to being trumpers. So he knew that he had to nip it in the bud before it got out of hand. Hahahaha

[@Chaneyyyy]

This would be the scariest Michael other than curse Michael

[@michaelbellone1680]

I love the first one, but not the second one. The first one was original and creative and he made it his own. But the second comes off as very incoherent and less grounded in reality, which is what he was going for in the first one. It doesnt have any resemblance of a Halloween film feeling.

[@berserkstroke]

Still my favorite adaptation of Michael my opinion tho

[@sublimazed]

man, gotta do something about the camera auto focusing every five seconds lol but good commentary

[@MadBloodMatt]

lol that’s why I put text on the screen about it and hasn’t happened since.

[@sublimazed]

@@MadBloodMatt oh, f me right. didnt see that srry brah

[@tonymcjunkin1930]

I really like this movie

[@ByronWeaver33]

How would you make Halloween 5: The Revenge Of Michael Myers (1889) a way better movie than the one we got? How in the world would you fix Halloween: Resurrection (2002)? How would you fix Rob Zombie’s Halloween II (2009)?

[@TygerClawGaming]

"I hope we see more of Danielle Harris in this franchise" dude you saw her naked, how much more would you like to see? lol. I'm a firm believer in just not remaking classics, you so rarely ever equal, much less top the original films. Somewhat new to the channel and enjoy your content man.

[@MadBloodMatt]

Thanks. Glad you’re enjoying the content. Imo, showing Danielle harris naked was an odd choice by RZ.

[@Bat_Dad_116]

RZsH is great. The THEATRICAL VERSION ONLY!!!!!! H2 I couldn’t get into but I’d like to re watch it.

[@elizabethstafford5773]

I loved them. But I also liked Waterworld which everyone insisted was terrible and hated Titanic so maybe Im a weirdo lol Also Ive grown up alot and I dont particularly enjoy horror anymore.

[@_Lux_Ex_Tenebris]

if Rob Zombie could edit himself.... Combine this and the sequel, with some editing and minus the whiny kid nonsense, it would be top 3 of the franchise. And yeah, unfortunately Trejo had to go.. I almost wish he didn't get him on the initial breakout and later on he was stupid enough to think he could get through to him, but this way set that tone, so it works in that sense too.

[@georgenelawson9917]

I like both the clean and aged masks obviously originally had clean one cool and later in this its aged or like in twenty eighteen its aged both look cool lol Michael is relatable in this one that's why some people hate it shouldn't be relatable shouldn't be understood they like the question was he born evil or became it this one solves all that and its cool I still like the mystery but also I like finding out this kind of stuff lol love the ideas of not seeing his face and how about him not talking you could have him just staring at people the bathroom scene they could have teased him and he just said nothing he don care but he still kills them! Ok but fine with him talking seeing his family again this one has us on his side everybody sucks so he kills them lol love it all only bit is at the Last act its too loud for me the music noise screams everything to loud lol love the death of Danny he'll yeah you were good to him lol he don't care lol that's not going to save you lol

[@kainlives7958]

The DGG trilogy are actually good movies where as these two are absolutely abominable

[@capitalcitygoofball1987]

I own four different versions of RZ H1, not really sure why lol. RZ H2 theatrical cut, and I stress theatrical is actually one that I enjoy more than the DGG trilogy. (yup, terrible dialogue and all)

[@MadBloodMatt]

I don’t blame you. Both RZ movies have some really fun moments. They really might be the Halloween movies with the biggest peaks and valleys

[@4lmightygee212]

I loved h1 I really did h2 I l9ved h2 and how they showed him recovering and eating the ghost of his mom I didn't really care for that

[@IronMan-qy7me]

I had 78 as number one for most of my life but then recently I decided that the theatrical cut of h2 is actually my favorite

[@isaiahprettypaint8877]

I love the fact you brought up how naked she got. I think someone had a werid crush idk tho jist a thought

[@Shaylovespopeye]

I love both they are my favorite Tyler is stronger better faster and fun so much fun I really love this Michael Myers I really want to meet Tyler

[@MadBloodMatt]

Always cool to hear some love for these two movies. I agree Tyler Mane is so damn good as MM. He’s scary and brutal af

[@BuccaneerBruce]

I just can't get behind these movies. I was actually pretty bored during the opening of the first one and it never recovered. I actually hate H2. It's one of the worst horror movies ever made.

[@georgenelawson9917]

I bet what sent Myers over the edge that Halloween night was long legs lol he sent the Myers one of them dolls are something a horocrux like from harry Potter and like how that affected those families it affected this one makes them dislikeable fight and ultimately one of them kills the others I liked Judith lol actually like her more than the mom but her smacking Michael did it I bet lol

[@brianlogan4243]

The part i dislike is people taking big money and highjacking a classic. Carpenter had an original idea and no budget. Zombie had a huge budget, put his godawful wife and buddies into a white trash version of halloween, how about have your own idea like House or Rejects?

[@DaveCurry-p3b]

😢 just want to say bro new to your channel a big horror movie fan Benson's growing up a little bit later my parents wouldn't let me watch a lot of that until about 1617 when I was about to graduate and they're like we don't care anyway just wanted to say I totally don't agree with getting getting killed by Michael I think Michael could hav 15:52 Dr Loomis at Malcolm McDowell said that he didn't have a lot of friends growing up and I think when I think when Loomis his character left I think something just snapped I think there is some humanity at least in Michael at least in Rob zombie's type of Halloween series and I've seen it in the shot Cunningham Jason Voorhees Friday 13th series I've seen Jason protect people 😊 in some ways their brain you know or maybe somebody must have caught Jason or Michael off on a good day because I've seen a couple movies with Jason didn't he kind of stopped some other bad people from doing something so I don't know I still think he could have left a machete you know I'm a bigger than I love this movies but I think Michael could have let him live he didn't have any way good evening

[@Atom.Storm.]

I don't love the halloween franchise, the series has had way more garbage than good. Parts 1,3 and 2018 are really good. But I also like Zombie's pt1 and have watched it more than some of the others. There are a large group of us that sit in that betwen zone.

[@Rando1975]

I certainly liked the first one. The 2nd is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. I can probably count on 1 hand the # of movies I've seen in my life where I was actually mad at the end, because it was so bad. Zombie's Halloween 2 is one of them.

[@MadBloodMatt]

😂

[@saintrogies]

I’m Joe grizzly bish

[@MadBloodMatt]

Great line 🎃

[@ShaneKixmiller]

Call me crazy but Jason goes to hell is my favorite Friday movie. The final chapter is right up there with it. But Jason goes to hell is a nonstop roller coaster ride. A total blast it’s got tons of great Easter eggs for other horror, films and it gives you the Jason that you were used to and then some.and I don’t have a problem with him jumping bodies. That actually explains how his appearance changes so drastically throughout the franchise. Especially between parts two and three. Jason goes to hell all the way baby!

[@MadBloodMatt]

I think it’s cool you love Jason goes to hell! I don’t really think it explains his different looks though because each looks shares too many similarities. But I still get what you’re saying. I agree the final chapter is great 👍

[@ShaneKixmiller]

@@MadBloodMatt yeah I have thought about that aspect of the look changes and I have come up with a theory. When Jason jumps into a new body, it looks more like how the body looked when he jumped into it at first. But the longer Jason is in the body, the face starts to become deformed, and some of Jason‘s iconic wounds begin to appear.

[@savage75_]

Zombie's Halloween 2 is awful

[@ShaneKixmiller]

Also, as a fan of this franchise, I don’t have a problem with them humanizing Michael in these films. In my opinion, Rob Zombie Halloween films are specifically movies about a serial killer named Michael Myers. All of the other Halloween films part three of course, are about the embodiment of evil. The shape. if you want to see the shape, there’s plenty of other ones to watch. If you’re looking for a more traditional experience. But if you want something, a little more unique in the franchise, you have Rob Zombie films. And I did not mind talking at all in the directors cut. Should Michael talk? No. But it’s the only movie in the franchisewhere it happens. And that makes it unique.

[@Justin-pq3rq]

The fact that u have that scream mask in the same company as Jason Vorhees and Michael Myers is an absolute disgrace. Halloween and the Friday the 13th movies are in a different galaxy than that not even scary Scream trash. Seriously. Jason takes shits scarier than whoever the weakling is that plays that terrible character that gets beat up by 120 pound girls. You’re better than that bud.

[@MadBloodMatt]

Need a hug?

[@matthewlogan4267]

Jason is better than Michael