The Rise And Fall Of Velveteen Dream

A man who many considered by many to be a future main event star, Velveteen Dream was signed by WWE when he was just 20 years old and featured in many high profile NXT matches. However, just five years after his signing, he was released by the company following a scandal in April 2020. This is The Rise And Fall Of Velveteen Dream.
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[@liamhemstock2286]

Absolute shame. He had EVERYTHING, promos, character, wrestling. Genuinely he ticked all the boxes. But here we are. Stuff happened and if it’s true then he brought the release on himself and if it’s false then one of the most promising stars for the next 15 years just got their chance to make MILLIONS taken away from them. EDIT: Ross was outstanding on this episode. Completely respect

[@biduMandias]

The problem with all of this lies in one simple word you've said. The word *IF*.

[@biduMandias]

@ᛖᛞᚹᛁᚾ I couldn't agree more.

[@Pennywise467]

Liam Hemstock shut up!

[@Pennywise467]

@@biduMandias ok

[@biduMandias]

@@Pennywise467?

[@rickytpb2164]

He's only 26 years old now. A lot of times the "up and comers" on NXT are nearing 40. Fuck what a waste.

[@eruptttttt]

and the allegations were false so it’s even worse

[@nickrharbi]

I was such a fan of his. That match versus Aleister Black made me a fan. He had so much potential, but his alleged misconduct and attitude fucked him over

[@Handsome_Black]

That was the first Alister black match I ever watched. I was completely invested in the story just by the video package and when Aleister said his name at the end of the match I lost it

[@ECW5320]

His backstage attitude really fucked him over (whether the accusations are true or not).

[@imperialstats]

Does anybody know if it was a lie or not??

[@imperialstats]

@@ECW5320 what did he do backstage

[@ECW5320]

@@imperialstats According to Alexander Wolfe (interview after his WWE release) said that Dream would act in character outside of the ring, plus he got kicked off of Tough Enough because of his attitude and lack of humility.

[@dasdeke]

Nice to hear Ross doing some of these. This was a perfect rise and fall story. Guy had it all, but his demons (whatever those were) drug him down.

[@bullymaguire2913]

He interacted with children.

[@cheesebeansmelt8495]

@@bullymaguire2913 not proved

[@bullymaguire2913]

@@cheesebeansmelt8495 yeah but there was plenty of evidence to suggest so. I’ve seen the chat logs and he looks pretty guilty to me.

[@lastone032085]

@@bullymaguire2913 if there was evidence there would be a case. Either you can prove he's guilty or he's innocent. Period.

[@lucassio1]

@@bullymaguire2913 if there is that much evidence he would be a guilty man but they are still allegations, stop throwing words around before you get a lawsuit against you for defamation of character

[@Dnj2418]

Velveteen was probably the only black male in modern wwe that got a push for not being black. he had it all💯

[@kadelowden7959]

Bobby Lashley?

[@kadelowden7959]

Also Bianca Belair

[@steven8184]

Bianca is miles ahead same with Apollo

[@mackisbrocklesnar]

Tons of black male wrestlers have been pushed for pure talent. Many have not been pushed even when deserving. Not sure which WWE you have been watching

[@vulcandor2573]

@@mackisbrocklesnarbut don’t you know WWE is “woke” trying to push affirmative action for their POC wrestlers. /s

[@Tryingtogetradical]

Nobody has fumbled the bag harder in NXT history. Dude was really next up to be a headliner.

[@TheJaviferrol]

He had probably the most potential as a future big star than anyone in NXT (homegrown too). Such a shame

[@remylucai]

HHH clearly had a reason for not putting the belt on him, when he was arguably one of the biggest names for the brand.

[@iBlackula]

NGL I felt the moment that Keith Lee got against Adam Cole was probably gonna be his moment. A shame he was so talented and threw it all way…

[@sportsmedia9647]

The reason was way too many allegations couldn’t advertise him anymore.

[@Rollyboy141]

@@iBlackula I keep saying it was supposed to be velveteen to dethrone Cole

[@CaptainTurbo]

Insert Obi-wan's 'YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!" right here.

[@sergengrimengrime6783]

WWE was clearly under pressure and thought it wasn't worth the heat so they fired him. I know I'm biased because I loved the character, but no criminal charge was made. And it really reminds me of how Enzo was released after his allegations, which were later proven false. That is definitely a huge lost for the wrestling industry imo

[@Torthrodhel]

Enzo's were proven false? I hadn't heard that. He made himself sound so guilty with that rap. Guess he was just very, incredibly stupid about how he reacted to it then. Good to learn. Don't automatically think that a lack of criminal charge means innocence. There are many ways for that not to coincide. But at the same time, on the other hand you do make a good point about how corporate WWE is. It does sound like the kind of thing they might want to find any excuse to distance themselves from, regardless of what happened. Ugh. Difficult to know what to think.

[@Juandamian83]

Enzo was fired because he kept the investigation quiet instead of telling the WWE what was up

[@ECW5320]

@@Torthrodhel Correct me if I'm wrong, but Enzo made the song after the investigation was done. If the was lying then he had every right to make that song.

[@computerlearingchannel4257]

Im getting sink and tired of this guilty til proven innocent with twitter already. Twitter needs to be gone

[@user-xo2wr9rl4x]

@@Juandamian83 Nah, Enzo said he didn't even know about the investigation and he found out about it when the WWE fired him for it.

[@themikx2939]

Very unfortunate of what he became.I felt like he was the last true homegrown star of NXT

[@InfectedChris]

I know it takes a lot of time and effort to write, record, edit, and publish these types of episodes. Thank you so much for making these as I really enjoy watching them!

[@stonebone316]

What a fantastic comment. You're a gem in a toxic comment section world(not just this one)

[@johnstjohn1987]

Say what you want but this dude had it all. Mic Skills. Athleticism. The guy was PURE GOLD.

[@TeamOverTheEdge]

Austin Theory got accused and bounced back yet Dream couldn’t I don’t understand and Austin never even made a statement about it

[@samuelmorrison258]

His match vs ciampa at wargames is my favourite takeover match ever

[@westnile21]

Dream vs Black is my all time favorite Dream match.

[@adamuber41219]

Such a great match. Five stars!

[@rigobertoalcantar9519]

His ciampa match was amazing

[@samuelmorrison258]

@@johnansell5401 If there's one thing better than a face vs heel match it is a tweener vs heel match

[@samuelmorrison258]

@@johnansell5401 Separate the art from the artist

[@OnMyLunchBreak07]

No fucking way lol I was talking to my brother about Dream last week. "It sucks to see all that potential gone. Can't wait for someone to make a rise and fall video about him." Here we are a week later lmao

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

Nostradamus 😏

[@talonthehand]

Ask your brother for lottery numbers

[@toddzombie8777]

Woah, damn that makes you so special. You ever heard of Coincidence?

[@OnMyLunchBreak07]

@@talonthehand funny enough I did win a 45k lottery recently too pfft

[@retrocysper3709]

@@talonthehand lol sure a week later and then won a million cash.

[@InfamousJr]

I'm still freakin pissed he got released. He was the damn future of professional wrestling altogether. If the accusations are true, than you know he dug his own grave, but if they weren't.... Fuck this could be one of the biggest "What if" moments in wrestling history

[@killerblademurderslasher8616]

I KNOW RIGHT. This man had star written all over him. I knew ever since I watched him on Tough Enough. Hell, even John Cena & Kevin Owens both said they'd love to have a match with him in the future. His matches, his storytelling, his wrestling, his gimmick, his attire were all great. Then he gets booted with no explaination. Either due to some accusations hes never even been charged for or becuz of his backstage behavior. Hurt me to my core seeing the guy leave.

[@MrJaybeezy123]

Noone to blame but toxic fans. After investigations, nothing was found to prove the allegations true but fans kept demanding consequential actions. They got it. All thanks to the most toxic fan base there is. The WWE fanbase.

[@notsure1350]

He was an early victim of cancel culture..... People were just starting to figure out that they had the power to have people's livelihoods taken away if they scream and stomp loud enough.

[@Demarcus10]

It turns out the allegations weren't true

[@diegoferrandinogenn]

@@Demarcus10 I really need Triple H to launch a full on investigation into these accusations because if they were fake this man deserves a second chance!

[@kiasj1794]

Feeling bad for him although he brought this mess to himself. He was talented af i really loved his matches

[@joeyriddle428]

How So?

[@triggerken1422]

@@Lifewhilelearning it wasn't just the allegations, his behaviour with the drunk driving and general recklessness at the time was really the nail in the coffin imo

[@kiasj1794]

@@Lifewhilelearning he deserves it if the accusation is right. Are you his family member or something?

[@DarthInfernusify]

You got mega simp vibes

[@allblack8148]

@@Lifewhilelearning they really do not give a damn because it does not affect them...

[@jbali101]

He made the matches he was in special even tho he lost most of the time it was still compelling

[@Patch778]

The self destruction of the Velveeten Dream

[@biduMandias]

More like the Cancellation of Velveteen Dream imo.

[@Patch778]

@@biduMandias Well still works

[@herbertsaunders1096]

This dude was going to be a Mega Star. He had a character they already developed in NXT. His catch fraise “Dream on or Dream over “ would’ve been a classic and crowd pleaser. Would’ve worked as baby face or a villain. His Velveteen Dream character would’ve been a smash.

[@amezquitajuan12]

Dude really had that IT factor that not that many guys have. I remember watching him on tough enough and knew he had something definitely didn’t deserve to leave early on the show. The dream was an amazing character just sucks and it’s terrible that he did those things outside the ring

[@senonimoustv2497]

It was never proven.

[@amezquitajuan12]

@@senonimoustv2497 you’re right, but a lot of the stuff does point that it was but then again not guilty until proven otherwise

[@senonimoustv2497]

@Jerrah Jones You don't know that.

[@Ep07123]

@@amezquitajuan12 i think its pretty clear that dream is innocent. Especially because one of those kids were in a racist group and the other deleted his account during investigation. "Which school do you go to" was asked by dream because the kid wanted to be a wrestler and asked for dream's help. The accusers arent even credible

[@danh950]

This made me think 'what could WWE have done different to keep his starpower intact?'. It has always felt for me that they just sweeped it of the table and never picked it up when needed. If he is innocent I hope one day it gets proven.

[@exxo3349]

Gosh, this story combined with the current state and rumors surrounding NXT makes me feel so sad. Which we could go back to those take overs...

[@maccy4829]

Such a shame, he ruined his career before it really got started

[@joeyriddle428]

How?

[@survivor-qp4zf]

HOW SO?

[@CaptainClutchX]

He didn’t really ruin it, the allegations that were proven false ruined it and then things just fell apart from there.

[@therealangelalexander1858]

@@CaptainClutchX and how and when exactly were they proven false???

[@CaptainClutchX]

@@therealangelalexander1858 they were proven false when WWE and Dream himself did a whole investigation. If Dream did do it wtf would he give people who can send him to jail the ability to search through all his messages and whatever else they do?

[@alexcombs7916]

Whether you believe he’s guilty or not Kicking a man while he’s down is never ok!

[@timnovak698]

Dream was my favorite NXT star and was one of the reasons I got back into wrestling. I hope he can focus on improving himself as a person, and maybe one day return to a ring

[@1nc0rr1g1bl3]

Same. Really loved the dude. Such a shame how things turned out for him. If he ever get proven innocent I'll 100% support him again but as of right now... We'll see.

[@timnovak698]

@@1nc0rr1g1bl3 It is an immense shame, almost as immense as his potential was. Exactly, I will be able to support and see rate Dream the performer and entertainer from Patrick Clark the person, if the day comes that he is exonerated, but as of now, I just hope he fixes himself

[@kultak1960]

@@1nc0rr1g1bl3 he also never got proven guilty 😂🤦🏽‍♂️

[@joekori6998]

Ross mate you did an incredible job with the voice over. A great listen that flew by before I knew it

[@jamespimentel6999]

Ironically his character fits perfectly at NXT 2.0

[@MasterChiefSamus]

Enzo and Dream in WWE, both suffering the same thing I hope that Johnny Depp now is about to defeat. Treated guilty until proven innocent.

[@LCMaestro15]

Love to see a rise and fall of Lars Sullivan. He was really good for a big man and had so much potential. But his past screwed him over, along with many other mistakes he brought upon himself.

[@wcthesecret]

Yup. That’s what happens when you’re gay.

[@ShaunDylan]

Shout out to MCW! That's my local wrestling fed, I've seen some amazing shows of their over the years and also have seen some incredible talent come out of it.

[@georgemckeon7398]

I’ve really been liking these long form retrospectives you guys have been doing. It’s never a slough and it feels different from other stuff that’s out there on KZbin.

[@azakem9827]

The most charismatic up and comer I’ve seen for years and years. Such a shame, apparently no proof of any wrong doing was found but others will argue no smoke without fire etc. I wonder if AEW will make a move for him as he really did have the potential to go right to the very top.

[@ibushi5467]

Every wrestling era will always have that "what if" superstar. This guy was the next supernova of wrestling . Charisma? Boatloads of charisma. Mic Skills? He was fantastic. Wrestling Ability? He was pretty impressive. He should have been one of the charismatic wrestlers since Randy Savage and yet he turned into an another Enzo Amore.

[@ChrisbeFoSerious]

Dude has it all. Unique character that was an ACTUAL Wrestling gimmick, great on the mic, great in the ring, charismatic af, good height, size, and face. More importantly, extremely passionate about Pro Wrestling. Really hope he can find his way back. Was one of favorite newcomers in a long, long time.

[@ilcorsaro9552]

He is innocent, they fired him just because of stupid kids complaining on twitter

[@glenncross4987]

So much potential. He's still only 25 and despite his choices(if they're true or fiction), if they're false accusations, the guy got unfairly cut imo but wwe would use the whole budget cut bs to sell it

[@KatarHero72]

Such a young, enthralling, charismatic, and talented wrestler who got in his own way. He could have been one of the bigger stars in the industry. It's a goddamn shame that people do stupid things like that and ruin their own lives.

[@cassidypeterson3618]

What stupid things? Dude it’s Velveteen Dream lol…if there was proof, it would be out there…if there was proof, he’d be arrested. When he came back, the fans were booing him as a baby face and KILLING him on Twitter…those type of allegations can NEVER be overcome..whether it’s true or not…Dream was an asshole and hated in the locker room…it wouldn’t surprise me if one of his enemies paid and put these kids up to it

[@falseshepherd7620]

The story of Velveteen dream will personally always go down as the biggest what if in pro wrestling

[@mohammedriadh4990]

Never heard of magnum ta?

[@falseshepherd7620]

@@mohammedriadh4990 Definitely have but the keyword there was "personally" Magnum was before my time so I dont have that big of connection to him

[@damonodell9125]

Zoomer hands typed this comment

[@falseshepherd7620]

@@damonodell9125 yeah hence why I said personally

[@Buddykidd]

The crazy part is the accuser dropped the allegations and nothing was found

[@KZ-mo2rz]

damn

[@Siscon92]

Such a shame. He was so talented it's really a loss. I hope he does find his way into the company once again in the future

[@triggerken1422]

I freaking loved Dream, some of the most compelling feuds over the simplest things, a great in-ring entertainer, and performer, endorsed by John Cena as the next big thing, Dream really had the world at his feet. Its truly a shame what happened to him, I hope he gets help and comes back even better

[@chayden153]

I really liked his Prince inspired gimmick, it's a shame about what happened, but if he really did message minors inappropriately, then he kinda brought this on himself

[@HeavensRedemption]

@@chayden153 but see that's the weird thing, no charges were filed...I mean if you were the teens parents would you not be pressing charges? These kids come out saying all this screaming only for him to be fired? I mean if you were the victim would that be the only thing you wanted? Plus when wwe launched an investigation into said matter one of the kids deleted all their socials. An again every screams about all this evidence...if you have evidence why have you not filled charges none of it makes sense an the fact that. No parent has stepped up, no charges have been filled, nothing was taken to the authorities, I've gone digging multiple times there is no info on anything being pushed forward...then you see some comments in here saying stuff like kids shouldn't have to press charges or testify under oath in court for an adult to be found innocent. Idk its both messed up an fascinating. To me he's innocent an one of my fave wrestlers until charges have been filed, an he's found guilty then an only then will I say we'll damn what a shitty guy. Until then he's a poor guy that's been targeted for some strange reason.

[@-loveyou6290]

@@HeavensRedemption He could've been targeted cause of his sexuality (possibly gimmick) or because of pure jealousy, or just bored-ness, the guy who said Dream messaged him when he was 16 was already a wrestler so the two might've had some falling out with eachother due to Dreams popularity and the other guy got jealous, but idk just an assumption.

[@glen46823]

12:42 "It was reported that release wasn't due to the allegations but rather a behavior incident reported backstage" So WWE logic is then "Multiple allegations of trying to diddle kids, no problem. Having a bad attitude backstage, get the hell outta here!"

[@mjstory1976]

Because those so called allegations were completely false

[@venomousnate7263]

You can make a list of rise and falls of anyone in the speaking out movement. Joey Ryan and David Starr among others.

[@chayden153]

Ooh, a Joey Ryan episode would be fascinating

[@biigby_]

Was the allegations true or just to ruin someone like what happened to Enzo??

[@xavierwashington5408]

I just don’t understand why nobody questioned the allegations. Where’s the legitimacy, it started on Reddit right, but why didn’t it grow to anything else, still to this day, nothing involving court, it didn’t evolve to anything, we’re just taking the word from someone on Reddit who didn’t do anything else to further the proof or allegations, WE STILL DONT KNOW THE ACTUAL TRUTH, THERE HAS BEEN NO REAL INVESTIGATION. A man’s life was ruined by a couple ppl on reddit, like wtf, where’s the real action. Velveteen could be innocent, we wouldn’t know a damn thing.

[@bernardcantoii292]

I am a supporter of the Velveteen Dream I hope he gets his stuff together and get back in that ring he is still young he could learn from his mistakes and still be a outstanding wrestler.

[@DemonMul]

I truly hope if he’s innocent of what he was accused of he finds a way to fully clear his name and gets a second chance to continue his career in wrestling

[@SupraViperhead]

He's already guilty in the eyes of the general public, so his innocence doesn't matter. He could've done absolutely nothing wrong, but that accusation has ruined his career.

[@DemonMul]

@@SupraViperhead Unfortunately you’re 100% right

[@christiansanchez2088]

@dingle Berry Enzo lost everything because he didnt tell his bosses anything.

[@gabrielvasquez5849]

Enzo was on his way to being fired regardless, the allegation was the final straw. Also Enzo still has a career in wrestling. His allegation was proven innocent, and he got to move on. It hasn't ruined his career. The vast majority of allegations turn out to be true, yet conviction rates for allegations are low. It is actually very difficult to get a criminal conviction in court for sex crimes. False accusations really don't happen very often.

[@starslayer2003]

I saw Dream's first-ever (public) match in 2014. He and Lio Rush trained together and debuted as a tag team for Maryland Championship Wrestling (RIP Bruiser). The following summer Patrick Clark appeared on tough enough and I met him when he returned to MCW before being hired by wwe developmental.

[@dysfynnction]

He was my favourite man, he had all the potential in the world and he completely fucked it :/ In the ring, on the mic and especially his unique character just won't be matched

[@parlarry6290]

I still think this Patrick getting voted off was an angle. They knew he was a star and Not only would they get a bump from all the controversy but they could actually get him into the fold quicker and hot shot someone else with a win of that season.

[@azwr9100]

He was so talented hope he improves as a better person and come back to wwe if the allegations are false then he should come back and people should apologise to him but if the allegations are true he should go to rehab improve being a better person an give him another chance after him improving hope more News comes out

[@slicesaturdayoffkitkat786]

If it is true then he should make a public apology and go to rehab the only reason I'll give him a 2nd chance if it's true because he's only 26 now and 22-24 yrs old when it happened, he is still young and time to grow as a better person

[@azwr9100]

@@slicesaturdayoffkitkat786 facts

[@amphetamean66X]

If I'm honest I'm not surprised people tried to take down a black man playing gender non conforming character. It's possible the accusations are real but I'm willing to bet a lot of people would make up stuff to take someone like him down.

[@steveking1037]

1) He was accused of being sexually inappropriate with the children he was interacting with online, and of trying to groom a young indie wrestler. 2) These were not formal, legal accusations. There was no court case, no charges. Like many of the Speaking Out situations, this was basically rumors backed with a handful of screenshots of texts. Could he have thought he was talking to a college student when he asked what school the child he was interacting with went to? Could the inappropriate photos have been downloaded off GRINDR instead of being sent directly by Dream? Who knows. 3) WWE conducted an “investigation,” the police were not involved because no formal charges were brought. WWE did not find enough evidence of wrongdoing to release him. Same thing with allegations against Matt Riddle and several others… of the whole movement, WWE was the promotion that sided with the talent the most and said, as many of you are, “not enough evidence.” 4) According to Clark, VD was going to come back and work in a mask after the allegations, and not speak. Even Dream seemed uncomfortable that WWE thought he was “innocent” but was going to gimmick it. 5) he missed a lot more TV due to backstage problems and injuries before he was finally let go.

[@jimmypackorino]

he could have been the greatest wrestler of all time

[@cliffordjackson3]

He could have been one of the most charismatic wrestlers in wwe history along with the rock, randy savage, the ultimate warrior, stone cold, hulk hogan and more.

[@shanekidd5766]

This is going to make one hell of a dark side of the ring episode. I do hope he’s innocent in all of this, cleans up his backstage behavior, and get a shot at redemption.

[@detalpug1033]

Man I had high hopes for velveteen dream all the way back to his tough enough days. The Match always stick out to me it was the one with Alistair black. Now sadly truly does live in infamy.

[@AdamSMessinger]

This was an excellently put together and informative video.

[@oAirehko]

I was seeing a hybrid of The Rock, Ric Flair and Rick Rude in him. Easily could have been a top guy if he didn't mess up.

[@1stKindChris]

Dude is innocent... and if you ever listened to his interviews (particularly the one with Jim Ross) you can tell he doesn't give a shit about anything but wrestling...

[@dylancampbell52203]

He didn’t mess up though. The allegations are false which is the most frustrating part.

[@putasdelfanta]

I really wanna applauded you all for expanding yalls channel with these different series

[@zil280]

Literally the guys innocent. Zero evidence of the explicit content all this time later. But wwe doesn't want anything to with an allegation like that . Its a shame bc he was one of my favorites

[@RYROSmetaldefender]

i just cant deal with wwe ridiculous politics of what is a proper wrestler behavior. Hes probably "inocent" comparable to other hidden wwe backstage stories. He should return wrestling instantly. At least in AEW

[@MPPharaoh]

I’m still mad about him not being around. Dude was gold and platinum to the WWE & NXT

[@8989adis]

Gotta feeling Trips is gonna bring him back sooner or later

[@schnnellbell3310]

He most certainly will. I mean have you seen the uncensored cock pic he sent? Bros packin heat 🔥 fr

[@_queerauntie]

It’s so hard to see someone so talented rise so high to fall so hard. It’s important to learn from their mistakes to keep wrestling safe and not preying on young.

[@fwef7445]

he was young himself, 19 is nothing, lets not make him out to be a jimmy saville ffs

[@HeartBreakerFiggy]

I’m not saying that the allegations aren’t true but it’s very interesting that the accusers disappeared after he got fired

[@RealMrUndisputed]

I find it funny how since he's been fired, you don't hear about any investigations. It really hate how easily it is for allegations to ruin someone's life even when they are never investigated. Giving someone power over another like this is quite terrible. If he did anything of such, he should be punished, but if he really did, he would at the very least have at least one court hearing; nothing of the sort has come out. Another talent Metooed wrongly it would seem. Shout out to Johnny Deep.

[@SB-jn8cw]

I never understood that either, he was never formally charged with anything, therefore he should not have been released.

[@kayskreed]

The problem with companies like the WWE is that they only are about their public imagine. So whether guilty or innocent it doesn't matter to them. If you're a liability and affect their image negatively, then you're gone.

[@PatrikoXD]

One of the most charismatic wrestlers in history. I'm sure he would be a multiple WWE Champion. Hope he gets a second chance.

[@kevinhousen2791]

I never believed those allegations against Dream because of how freely the accusers brought it up but never tried to get him arrested or even sue him. What he was alleged of doing was a crime but not charges have ever be filed. Dream was found guilty in the court of public opinion but never in a court of law. WWE didn't want to let him go but had because the fans wouldn't let it go. They canceled Dream.

[@adamgough9333]

Great video! Thanks all at Cultaholic for the hard work.

[@songbird8373]

He needs to come back.

[@comancosmin637]

It's shame that we lost such a great character, maybe there will be a return for him

[@jakemitchell1132]

It was the North America Title Ladder Match where I thought for sure that he would be the next face of the company. It’s a shame.

[@dylancampbell52203]

The most frustrating art of all of this is that the accusations are most likely false. And that the reason he didn’t respond was because he wanted to protect his character and he figured people would realize that the accusations were false and forget about it. He did so much to keep kayfabe alive that it actually worked against him.

[@cactusjesus9377]

Kayfabe has nothing to do with this

[@TheHitmanCoz]

Idc what anyone says I saw the "evidence" I heard the accusations and I heard his interview. I still believe he is an innocent man who had his career ruined by a p.o.s who didn't appreciate his advice

[@sumitrana4813]

Could have been the future of pro wrestling, so much talent and potential.

[@LanceG007]

He was actually proven innocent

[@canonisensys1653]

He was such a star . Everything about him was spot on and he was the companies own talent

[@thomasmb3552]

This series is great, keep up the good work Ross

[@samuelblachon95130]

Best match i've Seen live was ciampa & dream against Gargano & ricochet before takeover Chicago in a live event

[@brianthebrute92]

To me, he has the characteristics of 'Buffalo Bill' from "The silence of the lambs" more than he does 'Prince'! Tell me you cant see the resemblance when you see them pose🤷‍♂️

[@SB-jn8cw]

Goodbye Horses

[@gabrieltorres7596]

That match with the former Aleister was a simple feud, say my name (acknowledge), opposites, one stoic and dark and the other brash and loud personality without even yelling, the promos, the match man that was something. That got me to start actually seeing just how truly talented he is, I'll never forget that match but yea another ultra talented individual self destruction ended what could've been what should've been all we're left is with "What ifs?"

[@noahp1124]

False ACCUSATIONS ruining a mans life. Shocker!

[@technounionrepresentative4274]

He could have been this generations Shawn Michael's, Shame, Whether innocent or not Either He fucked up his own stardom Or wwe released their next star

[@raexv1]

he’s so young he’ll probably be back in a few years

[@dantess2693]

Yeah, it depends what happens outside of the ring in his life in the meantime. He may never be allowed back.

[@fwef7445]

@@dantess2693 macho man slept with an underage Stephanie and he's in the hall of fame

[@GCNMMA]

I still remember his match against Riddle at Takeover: New York

[@Trayxxxx]

I do hope that he can get this resolved someday and come back.

[@blindianbarbie2029]

it’s sad how people can easily lie and screw someone’s career like that

[@lonewolffang]

Seriously didn't know about his gimmicks other than The Veleteen Dream. Interesting. If things would have gone differently, he'd be on the main roster right now. Great rise and fall video.

[@EffigyOfAdam]

I didn't know he was fired. But then again, there's literally no reason to watch NXT anymore.

[@Mrderful]

This was one of the most horrible things to have ever happen to a talent WITHOUT PROOF 🤬 This man was going to be a SUPERSTAR. He was so over and my favorite wrestler in ALL of wrestling. I really can't stand this cancel culture online. ANYONE can make a claim and it's ruled as a fact without any physical evidence. This man lost his livelihood and his dream (no pun intended) all because some random made a accusations AND EVEN WWE COULDN'T FIND ANY PROOF OF GUILT.

[@SkageXL5]

It is desperately sad, but there's no-one to blame but himself.

[@gtheleo1134]

We will see him again. Way too talented 💜

[@Nogarda_]

The say my name storyline with black was what made me a fan of his. Nevermind the combination of Machoman and Rick Rude with his own twist on it making it his own. If none of this happened he'd be on the main roster and impossible to ignore. I missed the initial allegations so it felt really weird seeing the torrent of hate he got whenever his name was mentioned too.

[@clevercode30]

Damn it was proven the allegations weren't true. It sucks because he had so much potential and was over with the crowd

[@tb4l_jay17]

Proof or links for that?

[@TheChameleon703]

There are still questions that went unanswered. Why didn't the parents report Velveteen to the police? Now, these children are grown. Why didn't they report Velveteen to the police? Who hacked his pictures? Why wasn't that investigated? Why didn't Velveteen sue for defamation to clear his name? Hopefully, the truth will come out someday.

[@DjW1986]

Dayum, i didn't know he was gone!😢 i wish him the best.

[@JonnnySaint]

I’m not going to say if he is innocent or guilty, that’s for him, & the accusers to know. But it’s sad what happened to his career, he should’ve been a WM Main Eventer, now his wrestling career is just about over.

[@maze1914]

He was one of the reasons I started watching NXT. He was money. Hopefully he will get another chance somewhere else. I mean heck still haven't been formally found guilty.

[@neoPeake]

I don’t really have an opinion on him but I do know he was booked for an event but was taken off from fan backlash

[@cassidypeterson3618]

@@neoPeake yep tons of fans contacted the bookers smh

[@TimTE01]

I mean, not being convicted doesn't mean that you're innocent. For one, there are people that commit crimes and then kill themselves at the end. They aren't convicted. Are they innocent? Use a higher standard.

[@kevinhousen2791]

@@TimTE01 why weren't any charges brought against him? Why wasn't he arrested or sued at the minimum. They had no problem going online telling the story, why not tell it to the police? Why he was alleged of doing is a crime.

[@TimTE01]

@@kevinhousen2791 Why are you asking me as if I know. It could be a Statue of Limitations issue. Just because people aren’t tried for a crime, they aren’t necessarily innocent. People ‘know’ that OJ did it…yet he was found innocent. Nothing is quite as simple as you want it to be.

[@ScarFeiss]

I remember seeing him on tough enough and the trainees were doing bump drills. He did a bump and then Billy Gunn and Booker T looked at each other and were like "well..." Because he did it perfectly. Then in that episode, someone else did a bump and they both asked Patrick what he thought about the form...me and my bro were like why the hell are they asking him isn't he a trainee too?? Not realizing he was an inside plant by wwe the whole time

[@viajaycay]

Still one of my favourite wrestlers that shudve made it! Maybe outside the ring he has issues but in the ring and on the mic, this dude is gold! Perhaps theres still time

[@shafikahamzah]

DAMN! Okey put aside her case but VD was very improved and impressed original wrestler of WWE.. Furthermore he is the only any of junior wwe superstar that only achieved 5Star rating match