The Rise of 20-Hour Long Flights

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Cathay Pacific 777 landing shot courtesy PDX Aviation
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Singapore Airlines a350 footage courtesy Amsterdam Airport Schiphol and Aviateur European Plane Spotted
Virgin Atlantic a340 footage courtesy Runway Fun
Qantas 787 footage courtesy Aviation Insider

[@Wendoverproductions]

As I mentioned at the end, I also did a video on the longest duration commercial flight in the world on my other channel, Half as Interesting--a little collaboration with myself. Check that video out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3XIe36HiN56jqs

[@dnlass460]

Wendover Productions spacex will make all these flights obsolete!!!!!!

[@shravan2010]

Where is Delhi to San Francisco Air India service ?

[@emmettturner9452]

June 2017 I was flying back from Thailand on Qatar Airways with a connecting flight in Doha, Qatar. This was right after several other countries closed their airspace to Qatar Airways due to allegations of Qatar’s government supporting terrorism (some say it was Russian manipulation seeding distrust). Of course, this forced our flight WAY out of the usual path and it ended up being longer than the longest commercial route that previously existed. We landed at JFK in New York as planned originally but, rather than restrict them from US airspace, they had imposed restrictions that made the flight even more difficult to bear: No laptops, phones, tablets, handheld electronics, etc were allowed on the flight. My New Nintendo 3DS XL was stolen in Thailand but my 3-month-old Nintendo Switch had to stay in the cargo hold. :( Luckily, their planes are posh and were well equipped for entertainment no matter what seats you have. I feel they were the best airline for this to possibly happen to from a passenger’s perspective. :)

[@comedyman4896]

Should've been 'the takeoff of 20 hour-long flights'

[@DeFlekkie]

Are you planning on making a video about the evolution of air travel in regard to climate change? Is the industry going to take a hit because of increased concerns about emissions? And is there a technological advancement ready to answer those concerns?

[@onemileperhour]

Can't wait for non stop Newark to Newark flights

[@Maserati7200]

@MosoGaming/Vlogs it's called paying $17 for waiting at a packed penn station not knowing what platform your train is on til 2 mins before the train leaves, and being trampled by the crowd fighting for a seat

[@aylyi-huh9355]

@@Maserati7200 +1

[@MrMilanoLau]

A cab can do it better

[@modrak]

Maserati7200 *flashbacks intensify*

[@malahammer]

Has to be west bound in the evening and east bound in the morning :)

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

You know it's gonna be a good Wendover video if it has any mention of planes in the title.

[@yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571]

The Iron Armenian aka G.I. Haigs woah ur here

[@JaySliZe]

The Iron Armenian aka G.I. Haigs why have I seen you in so many videos now

[@jameswilliams1398]

The Iron Armenian aka G.I. Haigs you mean, every video?

[@MattPin]

lol

[@Firebolt193]

Iron Armenian is slowly replacing Justin Y as being the guy in every comments section

[@AngryGingerHorse]

Americans and Europeans: "I flew 12+ hours in economy once, never again!" Me, from NZ *cries in 13 hours just to reach Singapore for the next flight*

[@nehaha_17]

SAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

[@annabellem7953]

I´m from Europe and I would love to fly longer than 12 hours, but I´m crazy for planes and love flying :D

[@PapaphobiaPictures]

I dont think Europeans or Americans understand the pain

[@starchy101]

Tbh I feel so sorry for new Zealanders, everything is so far for y'all

[@johnharkin5278]

Ive flown LHR to AKL via Changi

[@durianhead]

the rise of approximately 12min long wendover productions videos

[@jeroenjansen2709]

Happy to see Airbus A350 is the winner

[@sasshole8121]

What? The Airbust A350 won the 12 min long Wendover Production video? @@jeroenjansen2709

[@benjaminmcintosh857]

I'd watch a whole doco

[@aandwdabest]

durianhead the rise of approximately 10 minutes long KZbin videos of any kind, in a nutshells

[@aandwdabest]

Jeroen Jansen Airbus a350 won, but let’s wait and see Boeing 777X

[@moumous87]

“Until north became south”... that’s the start of an epic adventure

[@ppphhhoooeee]

360th like

[@tonychan8558]

Or a trigger for Flat-Earthers! hahahahaha

[@jerrygundecker743]

Do you know what happens to your luggage once you check it in at the desk? Neither does British Airways.

[@mylovesongs2429]

I like what comedian Gallagher said one time. He said something like "i went to the United Airlines terminal, and said 'i want this piece of luggage to go to New York City, and this other piece of luggage to go to Denver.' The lady at the counter said 'sorry. We can't do that.' I said 'bullshit! You did it yesterday!'"

[@RL-ue4dz]

@@mylovesongs2429 hilarious 😂

[@brazeiar9672]

British airways are pretty good. It's Ryanair you want to worry about.

[@MrPijus123]

@@brazeiar9672 Ryanair taught me just how much stuff I can fit in a carry on bag

[@Dan-zc7ut]

MrPijus123 once Ryanair told me my bag was 0.2 kg over the limit, so I took out my lunch from my bag and ate it right there, in front of them, they promptly apologised and just told me to get on the plane because they were running late, so I didn’t, I kept on eating slowly and made the flight late by 15 minutes.

[@JustAnotherGamer014]

Wendover Productions and Aviation. KZbin’s best love story

[@hijack69]

*STill a BeTtEr LoVe StOrY thAN tWiLiGht*

[@scottwaldron2765]

or squarespace

[@tripel9505]

Imagine being on a plane for 19 hours with your destination being Newark...

[@FeatheryBird]

RIMSHOT

[@StaticImage]

*HAHA*

[@TheTinnin]

LOL! GREAT COMMENT

[@james-p]

I've been to Newark. I'd probably shoot myself.

[@anthonyeaton9049]

This is basically the modern-day, transcontinental version of Fiorello La Guardia's outburst at Newark Airport. (Look up how LaGuardia Airport came to be; it's an exceedingly New York story.) And I love it.

[@andersonklein3587]

"Some question whether trouble times are ahead for the industry" Yup, isn't it a mad world how you can plan years in advanced, down to the dollar of your fuel cost, and then 2020 happens.

[@Blex_040]

And then, after you dealt with the difficulties of a worldwide pandemic, almost 2 years later, putin happens...

[@aditsaini5094]

​@@Blex_040and then inflate

[@EdVonPelt]

@@aditsaini5094 The aviaton industry is not seeing the crisis. Airbus and Boeing have years of orders backlogged.

[@prestonage]

2021 update: Quantas does run the non-stop Sydney-London flight and it's flight time is an estimated 23 hours and 20 minutes.

[@alexiatrani786]

Perth to Rome also runs and is only 16 hours (considering Sydney to Dubai is 14.5) so its huge win

[@extremelyboiledpotato]

Qantas does not fly SYD-LHR non-stop yet, but they do fly SYD-LHR with a stop in SIN

[@jcjamora6813]

"qantas"

[@virtualpedestrian3271]

You: Sitting for 20 hour without moving Blood clot: *it's free real estate*

[@memegod4433]

Oh mi gawd

[@trash_warden6190]

You: sitting for 20 hours Blood flow: Am I a joke to you?

[@avada0]

@ThisKid They should put bunk beds in these flights. Same amount of people, only lying instead of sitting.

[@adfure017]

I did the Doha - auckland quite recently and that shit feels in your legs when you finally walk off

[@Jeremylovy]

Fuck me I did Doha to O'Hare 14 1/2 hours and I was about to lose my shit. Fuck an extra 5 1/2 hours.

[@DLoza100]

This feels like a documentary from a long forgotten past of what could've been.

[@kingsofserbiangameplay1623]

Did you say *Plane?*

[@DomokosLajos]

Airbus A380 - 1000 25.000 Km 1200 Passenger 20 hours 20 minutes

[@KnowNot_Name]

Whispers* Did someone say Houston?

[@snay6869]

so?

[@willtheprodigy3819]

Remember when this comment was funny? I don't.

[@gabe7509]

WillTheProdigy sex 😂😂😂😂😂

[@theCodyReeder]

Ah straight lines indicating travel over a curved surface. I wonder how long before some flat earther uses this as evidence the earth is actually flat.

[@declannewton2556]

You can't argue with flat earthers. They somehow manage to take contradictory evidence and spin it such in a way it makes them seem correct in their own minds.

[@SpJrD]

Cody'sLab here’s homework for you, if Australia is close to Chile, then how come no “functional” flights for this route? If you search Qantas there’s a flight. However, it’s not functional, all Australia to Chile flights MUST fly to LA and such then head to Chile, this highly support flat earth as Australia and Chile are in opposite to each other in flat earth model.

[@InfiniteRhombus]

they do, they also use the horizon as evidence that the earth is flat because the curvature of the earth is too great to actually see, which is also fucking stupid.

[@naturalgamerplaynaturaly]

super

[@euphony5552]

J It is proven that New Zealand is next to Australia, you can get there in an hour from Melbourne, and air New Zealand has direct flights to it. So no there are functional flights across the pacific.

[@bruh9600]

2015: cheap oil 2019: cheap oil *coronavirus has entered the chat* 2020: cheap as a barbie doll that has been tortured

[@bxcsf9408]

yee

[@RottingFarmsTV]

>airline buys oil >Businessman runs over to give them money

[@phineas7423]

This video was oddly predictive

[@rayyansaleh8178]

just been on a $40 dollar delta flight from jfk to mia 😃

[@fortcrafterbossbehold9027]

Then 2021 with idiotic environmentalism on the loom: pricey oil

[@brunicorn]

The rise of neck pillow sales

[@yengsabio5315]

Right!

[@dslax9085]

I agree

[@TheMasterhomaster]

And they’re completely useless.

[@Eugenepanels]

hey i bought one it was awesome

[@tachadocarmelojudeb.355]

Economy seats should have built in massage for your ass for non stop flights. Lol

[@XSpImmaLion]

I am just thankful that I live in a day an age when someone in brazilian middle class (me and family), could afford to fly twice so far over their lifetimes to the other side of the planet (Japan). This took a decade of savings, and both our routes had flyover stops (first one was Toronto and then via Pacific, the second was in Qatar via Atlantic), but if you think about it, just amazing that it's even possible. We're talking about almost literally, the other side of the planet. Parts of Brazil are the closest to being perfect antipodes of parts of Japan. Comparing to how my grandparents and grand grand parents migrated less than 100 years ago from Japan to Brazil, boarding ships that took almost a couple of months to traverse the same distance.... like 50 somethings days to less than 2 including waiting times in the flyover destinations. How the crap. In a single lifetime. It also seems that we're reaching peak optimization there. The interests have shifted to making flight cheaper rather than faster, so this is kind of a glorious moment to be alive in history. xD Man, it's mindblowing... perhaps someday in the distant future we can travel directly through tunnels bore straight through the planet, or some sort of teleportation device, but until then, I'm not exactly expecting another huge leap in prices going down and speeds going up in such a short period of time...

[@julosx]

Ironically, a Boeing 707-323C disappeared once during a cargo flight between Tokyo Narita and Rio de Janeiro, in 1979. It just vanished (Varig flight 967). Even worse, for its captain, Gilberto Araujo Da Silva, it was his second near or death in plane driving : he had his first air crash only 6 years before in another 707 that sent ad patres 134 souls. Of his last crash, nothing and no-one have ever been found.

[@charlesferdinand422]

Fuck Brazil.

[@kentokyo]

I agree with you completely. The world is getting smaller but the earth is still huge. I hope one day, there is a non-stop flight connects Tokyo and San Paulo !

[@kimlau4285]

Mean to say... but your grandparent made a bad decision to immigrant to Brazil. You will become much richer if you were born and raised in Japan. Moreover, spending a decade of saving just to travel to Japan doesn't worth it at all....

[@LordArioh]

it takes me less than a salary to fly to Japan for a month every year. especially the flight being the cheapest part. EU.

[@kerbonaut2059]

>uses fuel to carry fuel The burden of the Rocket Equation

[@noonehere4332]

Dabbing Kerbonaut Kerbal players know that pain

[@jazzerson7087]

Hopefully laser propulsion will come into fruition soon enough on both, worry about fuel and amount of weight needed to store fuel will become a thing of the past!

[@volka2199]

Just slap some SRBs on and you are good. No need for all these fancy calculations and SSTOs.

[@KandiKlover]

At least until you go nuclear.

[@seraphina985]

@@jazzerson7087 Laser propulsion is less than ideal inside an atmosphere, the reason for this is the same reason why you see the whole sky lit up during the day and not just a white-hot circle of intense light where the sun is. That being that the atmosphere scatters light passing through it though this is much much worse at lower altitudes where the air is thicker. This would require a much larger sail to pick up enough of the beam but this also increases the thrust needed exponentially as the sail also massively increases air drag which leads to a catch 22. Perhaps it could work with a hybrid scramjet to get the plane up high into the stratosphere before unfurling the sail so a satellite can push it but I am not sure and don't feel like doing the math right now.

[@liamtahaney713]

La to Sydney is the longest flight I've been on it was nuts. Can't imagine another 5 hours

[@ellaturkiewicz333]

Liam Tahaney did brisbane to LA last year myself, absolutely insane

[@vishalgiraddi5357]

Ask someone who did doha to Auckland....✋✋ Went nuts sitting for 16 and half hours

[@usa5893]

Mine wasn’t a flight, but a drive, I drove 18 hours from Bentonville, AR and to Denver, CL.

[@Eudomac99]

Imagine sitting next to Wendover productions on the Singapore to Newark flight.

[@SajidKhan-sk1jj]

Ok imagine

[@CockatooDude]

Best 20 hours ever.

[@victorang928]

Fast talker yeah?

[@Robert-yf1kn]

Imagine if you were sitting there and you had to go to the bathroom to take a shit and on the way to the bathroom you shit in your pants.

[@joncalon190]

@@Robert-yf1kn Can you imagine how uncomfortable you would be if you were one of those types of people who would never use a public bathroom on a 20hr flight? Like seriously, how could you hold it for more than 22+ hours? (factoring in that you can't use an airport washroom either...)

[@jordynchan5103]

"Until north became south..." Take that, flat-earthers!

[@boudewijnb]

Jess Chan this would work on that stupid flat earth model too

[@rafaelalodio5116]

Flat earthers don't really care with facts, nor common sense.

[@KD-ns1hn]

@@boudewijnb uhh how exactly?

[@benjaminodinakaHOODKIZK]

BoudewijnB 😂😂😂

[@SarahScratches]

@@KD-ns1hn Flat-earthers believe that the arctic is in the center of a flat disk-shaped world. So flying over the arctic is no problem. Antarctica would be more of a problem in their view.

[@ndv135]

10:55 I thought that was a picture till the guy walked out of the door.

[@aaronworsnop]

7:46 I’m glad you said Kiwi not New Zealandian

[@RRoxas65]

What? Hahaha!

[@acchaladka]

* New Zed-lian is cool too though.

[@Prodigious1One]

I say, "New Zealander". LOL.

[@edsr164]

So was I

[@jediael9906]

I mean you're all fake so it doesn't matter

[@TheHolyEmerald]

We need straight flights from Miami to India or at least China/Japan/Australia/somewhere in East Asia. This is the third most populated state in the USA and there's still only just 3 flights that fly directly from Miami/Ft. Lauderdale to Asia. Funny.

[@ZK-APA]

The Holy Emerald the thing with USA-India flights is that since the Middle East airports are so well connected to the bulk of Indian airports that it’s more practical to fly via any middle Eastern airline than India-USA (as only delhi and Mumbai makes sense for any flight to come from USA)

[@AJ-lh4fp]

ZK-APA true but there are already many flights directly from the US to India: San Francisco, New York (including EWR), Chicago, DC, etc. So makes sense to add a direct flight to another city or 2- one in Florida or Texas would be nice

[@coconutboy8198]

india has a much lower demand compared to other asian countries for example singapore or china.

[@rigor.m9422]

Plane related wendover is what keeps me alive

[@jarodmorris611]

My flight instructor now flies for FedEx. He said people are far more concerned with getting their package to arrive on time rather than their mother in law to arrive on time

[@giacomosmiderle9717]

I mean.... He does have a point

[@Dcc357]

My tailbone would be the only cushion left after just 5 hours.

[@jack_leinen]

Dcc357 mine would be the last cushion after an hour and a half

[@volka2199]

I thought you wrote Taliban for a second...

[@raahimhadi4905]

@@volka2199 bruh..

[@thejesuschrist]

I'd rather sit in economy class for 20 hours, than a donkey for 20 minutes.

[@RenTheGreat]

This is a verified jesus lol

[@sunjamin99]

Is your brother Satan?

[@SGMTTAY_gg76]

Sup jesus

[@Admiral_Jezza]

@@RenTheGreat Yep, KZbin verified that he's the actual Jesus.

[@cowboycat88]

How is Jesus commenting on every video loooool the lord's power is real

[@BobMcCoy]

*_Concorde wants to know your location_*

[@roadrunner6224]

_Bob McCoy probably not as many people didn’t even want to cram themselves into that tin can on regular bases for a 3 hour flight let alone 9-10 hours

[@elopeous3285]

Concorde wanted to know your location

[@SL-kz5dk]

Peter Zwegert that was for price reasons. Only the rich could afford to.

[@brianxavier8873]

Lisa Guerrero would confront that concorde

[@roadrunner6224]

SaltySteve no it wasn’t there was simply no demand for this type of plane, business travelers prefer to simply spend a night on the plane in much more luxury than to commute more than 6 hours a day in tin can.

[@ejfour15]

Me: How many airplane and aviation videos will you make? Wendover: Yes

[@niceyolk7380]

Imagine sitting in an economy seat for 20 hours.. LOL

[@StaticImage]

Cyanide pills aren't even included in the price

[@dijoxx]

It can be heaven or hell. Totally depends on the airline.

[@JarodPlaysGames]

Singapore Airlines only offers premium economy and up on this route

[@MrRobcher]

Imagine if you are even tall and need leg space to sleep,you practically don't sleep or you take sleeping pills

[@Tony_P]

A380 economy is as good as it gets , generous legroom , seats are comfy and a decent entertainment system. Thats my experience on Qantas and Emirates 16 hour flights

[@stevep5408]

Anything nonstop is just a reduction is crap that can go wrong. A lot less chance of lost luggage, delays to make you miss your connecting flight, having to haul your butt through another airport, extra tickets. Just so many reasons to want to avoid hassles.

[@Zakirbhai786]

Steve P exactly

[@Nebs1]

Plus the most dangerous part of flying is takeoff and then landing. Cruising is pretty safe.

[@taketimeout2share]

This video has genuinely educated me. Thank you. I didn't realize that it is cheaper, fuel wise, to stop along the route beyond a certain distance.

[@rayanaltowayan9558]

*B747 and A380 has left the chat*

[@StaticImage]

Ouch

[@StaticImage]

The 747... I heart the 747 so much

[@Taydrum]

TOO SOON

[@mxhddr]

B747 left a long time ago

[@neelparmar6690]

Have*

[@funny-video-YouTube-channel]

*Wonderful for travel, if we can afford.* Would be fun, if the budget flights would include a 1 day stop-over with a nice bed, instead of flying for 16-30 hours without sleep. Some very smart Chinese airlines do that for very long flights with a stopover in China. Let's see if the others will do it too.

[@ashleymalamute]

The midway point on the great circle between Sydney and London is Chongqing. There's no reason why they couldn't have a few hundred cheap rooms or sleeping pods to allow the cattle to rest between the two 10 or so hour flights.

[@jamessteerforth6027]

@@ashleymalamute Why not spend an extra $100 if they offer you a couple of meals and a tour on a one night stopover? I often wish I could spend a day or so in the countries I pass through. A night in Beijing, the Great Wall and Forbidden City would be a great 24 hour stopover.

[@mimi-hu4yc]

yeah they do, but I've just "done that", but checked out 5min later, because I'd rather sleep at the airport than that hotel with only chinese speaking staff and absolutely no plan when they would shuttle you back to the airport or if there's be even one at the time you need. Wasted 3h of my Shanghai overlay, never again.

[@sampai64]

That would be nice 😊

[@VineFynn]

Doesn't sound like a budget flight.

[@ptuxermann]

Brilliant!

[@juanpabloramirez1838]

Yay airplane productions is back.

[@karlp8484]

I think the main reasons why very long non-stop flights are heavily subscribed is that with a two hour layover (typical) it's actually more exhausting because you have to sit or wander around in a terminal. And all the hassle of unboarding and reboarding. Not everyone has lounge access. If the flight basically has BC or PE only (like Singapore) that's a great option.

[@frans97]

ME: I’ve finally finished planning the itineraries for my 2020 flights. Virus: I’m about to end this man’s vacation.

[@Robm024]

finally another planes video

[@joshuajoe1419]

Robert go to half as interesting The made a couple recently

[@Kanhow]

One pandemic and one invasion later, would be interesting with an update.

[@turbo_jake]

Phew I was getting worried we haven’t had a plane vid in 2 months

[@garyjohalasmr727]

I know eh...

[@fivesquaredyt2521]

TurboJake 169 likes

[@HedgehogStudios1]

I recently did an 11-hour flight from LAX to LHR on a 747. I can't imagine going any longer than that. I guess it's not so bad if you have 10-grand for a bed.

[@Jdm491]

On Lufthansa my family and I flew from Los Angeles to Munich on the A340-600 and we got 3 lie flat business seats for 1800$

[@ToxicMrSmith]

Just in case you didn't know. QANTAS Is Queensland And Northern Territory Air Service.

[@jconrad8585]

Thanks. I always wondered what the name meant.

[@mylovesongs2429]

Wow! I will sleep better tonight!

[@richcharlesmond]

This is crazy because I’m flying from Perth to London literally tomorrow.

[@MsMinoula]

Tell us how it was.

[@jenda386]

Yes, please.

[@matthewsmith8727]

I flew to Perth from London, and hated the flight we upgraded on the way home and it was still horrible

[@IoOLOoOfficial]

@@matthewsmith8727 Not enough sheilas on board eh Matt?

[@matthewsmith8727]

Lian Peled rude staff horrible food just an all round miserable flight

[@mondaymotivator_]

Me: sits 18 hours in the back of economy Blood circulation: I gotta get out of here

[@tirthp1735]

Non-stop from US to North Korea would be the ultimate achievement. :)

[@alexo.1388]

One way ticket?

[@bo-bx5hn]

Meanwhile it still costs $650+ to take a trip from Ontario to Alberta...

[@MarijuanaCanada]

Swoop airlines is getting cheap if you can travel to Hamilton.

[@bo-bx5hn]

@@MarijuanaCanada swoop will only be cheap until it chokes out flair. Then same ol. I usually fly one of these two, but they're only cheap sometimes and typically have the worst flight schedules, unfortunately.

[@JennWanderer]

It's often cheaper to go to a Mexican or Cuban all inclusive for a week.

[@bo-bx5hn]

@@OnnSight over - regulated and oligopoly, more likely.

[@ivanfperez56]

Really!; flying a bush plane or a BEAVER???.

[@IHATESOOMUCH]

2:25 The Newark to Singapore flight is actually served six times per week not daily.

[@KasabianFan44]

So basically daily except Sundays lol

[@dcoulter2685]

You’ve heard of Sydney to London now get ready for... Auckland to London!

[@BudderSticks]

A& W They should fly it with a 172

[@st3llarmemer111]

Oh and also Perth to Toronto

[@r.a.6459]

*I expected this*

[@r.a.6459]

An A350 or a B787

[@WayToManyAssassins]

that's a long way😂

[@herrfz]

5:09 - do you mean ".. which is why airlines will price *non-stop* itineraries typically higher than *connecting* ones.." ? Otherwise I'm not sure I follow the logic...

[@TheIBROWman]

Eriza Fazli okay I’m glad someone else heard this I had to replay it 5 times I think he said it wrong

[@RandHough]

cacabeans and either way, the structuring of this sentence is appalling

[@bamd8770]

I replayed it a few times and then gave up. there are two parts of this video which could have been worded better. the other one is about a minute before this one

[@TheIBROWman]

@@bamd8770 yes agreed. oh well the rest of the video is money

[@ubahd00d]

@@bamd8770 OH damn, I feel better now, I did the EXACT same thing. The other part that fucked me up was the fuel use graph. How does fuel use start at 31lb/nm then drop to damn near 0lb/nm? That graph is confusing, along with the narrative.

[@fishwater2745]

20 hour flight that sounds like hell i strugle with 8 hours flights

[@jackiestarr2881]

Airlines are more concern about economics than travelers health.

[@arcaipekyun4232]

Jackie Starr nope, its the passengers who choose this (also explained in the video)

[@whyzed250]

Holy crap... first American ever at 10:27 to say Brisbane correctly! Cudos to you my friend and much love from Brisbane!

[@pipsasqeak820]

Yet still cant say adelaide correctly...

[@dugowt9243]

Don't get so high and mighty pipsasqeak. I gaurantee there are a ton of American town names that would baffle you.

[@aveuch]

Brisbun, Melbun, Sydnuh, how do you say Adelaide?

[@Leon1234021]

oh well, australia is irrelevant

[@godfreypoon5148]

Add a laid.

[@davidliu2243]

The moment he said " It uses fuel to carry fuel" *Mind blown*

[@TheLingo56]

Interesting how if by some miracle a battery more energy dense than oil gets invented technically it would be more economically efficient to do long haul flights than short. The weight of the battery would always be a constant, so traveling people long distance would be more efficient than short distances.

[@hazridge]

Grammar error in the title. "20 Hour-Long Flights" implies there are 20 flights that are each 1 hour long. "20-hour long flights" is what it should say.

[@markusnl]

Or 20-Hour-Long Flights?

[@ChromeColossus]

Intentionally Left Blank, You are correct.

[@daryx.langdale]

I'd be interested in a Wendover video about that topic also.

[@hazridge]

@@markusnl I think '20-hour-long flights' is ambiguous

[@nichts5713]

who cares about gramar.

[@jasongravanis5171]

This is one of my favourite videos you've done. Very comprehensive and concise explanation!

[@jrcolmena]

I won't take a 20 hour flight unless the plane is a Toyota Corolla!

[@thaibinh1909]

drdanger you might want to think again, sedans don’t have any space to walk, imagine 20h sitting.

[@joshnival8529]

Wrong channel bro

[@jackbauer5386]

Every airplanes video on this channel conveniently avoid the environmental issues.

[@l30S3UX]

@@jackbauer5386 Sure, let's stop people from travelling

[@jackbauer5386]

@@l30S3UX We don't have to stop people from travelling. We can just wait for this planet to become too fucked up for humans to live on. But at least we got to to do London to Australia in 20 hours, worth it.

[@RatioPlease]

Your videos are so engaging, i use them to fall asleep.. while listening to them i lose focus about anything else, hence i fall asleep easily.

[@kayseek1248]

And I thought my flight from Sydney to Vancouver was long.

[@kayseek1248]

Clark Gable 14 hours is still quite a long flight I must admit.

[@funk44]

I do Melbourne to Vancouver and back once a year. It's brutal

[@kayseek1248]

funk44 shit

[@MQHNATYTC8262]

5:01 Hey! My *box* complained about the 12-hour-flight!

[@cup_check_official]

Thanks to my dual monitor setup now i don't have to leave p*rnhub for Wendover video

[@TheCriminalViolin]

Why does this sound like a "as seen on tv" ad? lol

[@WASIURPA]

@@TheCriminalViolin BUT THERE'S MORE!

[@danielsan1130]

MMM

[@sampurinton825]

I think you meant to say airlines price connecting itineraries LOWER than non-stop ones at 5:08

[@griffinwdesigns]

wendover and his damn planes

[@therickson100]

He did not mention the influence of ETOPS regulations and the acceptance of two engine aircraft to meet ETOPS. The wikipedia article is quite informative on this. BTW, ETOPS stands for "Extended Operations" or (depending on your sense of humor) "Engines Turn or Passengers Swim."

[@Paul-vj7up]

No it doesn't, ETOPS stands for "Extended-range Twin-engine Operational Performance Standards". Thank goodness for acronyms!

[@Alcatraz-zn4zp]

I've almost flown that long. Did Singapore to Los Angeles at the start of 2019 and it there was some headwind, flight ended up lasting 18 hours

[@NearCry91]

11:16 Nice shot of Newark Liberty International Airport. (Took me way too long to find out what airport it was.)

[@taktsing4969]

If mid air refueling is available in passenger jets...

[@games1004]

Would be nice, but there is a moratorium on passenger “formation” flying, and refueling is just that to the extreme... so maybe by 2050. [edit] Also, we can’t fuel-up with the boarding door closed, so there’s that.

[@stinkbandit]

Air Force One

[@MusicBent]

stinkbandit I was going to say that. It’s definitely possible. It would be interesting to know the economics of it.

[@trezapoioiuy]

I think air refueling costs a massive amount of money

[@shingwong1729]

It would be cheaper to land and fuel for an extra 30 mins

[@samlee6152]

That fact at the end that soon we'll be able to reach any point in the world non-stop... wow what a small world we live in now

[@ShakespeareCafe]

As John Denver sang in Starwood in Aspen: "It's a long time to hang in the sky" and not an insignificant dose of radiation

[@Coolsomeone234]

Part 2 To "The little plane war" The US department of commerce didn't put up any tarrifs on the C-series (A220). Then Boeing tried to buy 80% of Embraer but then Brazil blocked the purchase

[@tomstravels520]

Someone 234 not any more

[@dwoodkamp4550]

Back in the 50s London - Tokyo 88 hours what's the problem? (We did make some progress).

[@phoenixevanoff6069]

D woodkamp lol

[@volka2199]

I'd take that over some modern flights, you lost time but had much better accomodation. Trains count too, even in modern times, you can have your own bunk and there is an onboard restaurant with AC wifi and many other things. For personal travel trains are superior in certain instances, especially in Europe within Schengen zone.

[@kentokyo]

How many cities they landed on the way?

[@holygrail1702]

l love how the flight times shown in the first 2 and half minutes showed an actual flight time of less than 3 hours some as little as 15 minutes ( not including time zones of courss). I use to fly between Korea and Detroit nonstop and we would leave ICN at 1630 and land in DTW about the same time on the same day!

[@raindropdreams8]

Hey, could you make some videos for economics and support companies for the satellite industry? I love airlines economics because they're technically challenging investments currently supported by the rise of the shipping industry. I would love to see the economics of large technical assets that are supported by different industries in general.

[@Toothily]

Who else is watching this in 2022. Sam talking about airline industry growth just before the pandemic hit feels so uncanny now.

[@compassioncampaigner728]

Who is this guy? Close your eyes and point to the list of Wendover videos. Doesn't matter. All Wendover videos are definitively riveting. Respect for the quality you build into each presentation.

[@loadingninja3486]

This video aged like fine milk in the middle of a desert

[@somevincentsauce]

Living in HK for so long, long haul flights were all I knew, from Kai Tak to Chek Lap Kok, it was all Cathay's L-1011's or 777s. The first regional flight I took was when I was going to a small town in the US, and I loved those Biscoffs Delta served on their E-140s.

[@kdon116]

6:41 yeah i’d say troubled times were ahead

[@KevinMelchor]

As a travel advisor, the video of explaining longer nonstop flights is well explained. I recommend watching it. Longer nonstop flights are more in price. And some clients of mine do not mind paying more. I also have clients that do not mind paying less for a stopover such as Los Angeles to Taipei to Manila or Los Angeles to Newark to London or San Francisco to Istanbul to Milan or Rome. Stopovers tend to become less in fares and is attractive and plus you can vouch and say you stopped over in a city or country you have never been to. I also recommend in a stopover to stay 24 hours or at least 10 hours to explore a city.

[@label1877]

I have taken 22 hour flights from Atlanta to the Philippines with a fuel stop in Hawaii. Never again, I fly Atlanta to LA, spend a day at Venice Beach then fly out the nest day to Manila. For some reason 16 hours is way better than 22.

[@phunkyfeelone]

Then you stopped...in Hawaii. It's not a 22 hour flight. I've done Europe to Australia 10+ times, always bouncing in Asia. Fastest stopover of 40 minutes in KL, making it a 22.5hr end to end. Don't even have time to take a leak before you're boarding again...

[@label1877]

That sounds challenging to say the least.

[@Lucy-ng7cw]

Woah you said Brisbane and Melbourne right.

[@rohangain7436]

I know right :)

[@lesh.354]

July 1998, Hong Kong’s Kai Tak international Airport closed down after 73 years of operation. Cathay Pacific inaugurated the opening of Hong Kong’s new airport by making the world’s first non-stop transpolar flight over the North Pole. Cathay Pacific Flight 889 departed from New York’s John F. Kennedy Airport and landed in Hong Kong International Airport, a seventeen hour flight.

[@brianping410]

I’m looking forward to Wendover’s “Why the A380 Failed.”

[@alecd4946]

Literally watching this as I wait for my united Houston to Sydney flight lol.

[@Robert-yf1kn]

Iam watching this sitting on the toilet taking a big shit.

[@lightdragon5821]

20-hour long flight in an economy seat sounds like torture, why would anyone pay for THAT flight. Rather take a break in between two countries for day 1-2

[@ZK-APA]

Levi Dragon because for some people time or cost is priority. So even if it’s hectic, people will still choose that.

[@Tensquaremetreworkshop]

The evidence is that lots do...

[@python9657]

i have already travelled in 16 hour flights with 1 layover, i wouldnt mind 20 hour flights at all if it is direct, in fact it would be a lot better since all that time will be saved

[@rhinoxbeans]

Who else gets excited when there is a new Wendover airplaine video?

[@Racko.]

Me 100%

[@lewiscastro6934]

Here after Qantas JFK to SYD?

[@arcaipekyun4232]

Lewis Castro doesnt count, it is only test flight (he mentioned them.)

[@wastelanddv8062]

And now after 2020 this entire video is obsolete.

[@amanvds]

We need supersonic passenger travel once again

[@SrGurkman]

amanvds lol good luck convincing people to put up with sonic booms

[@amanvds]

@@SrGurkman we can fly over pacific ocean .... no one is gonna complaint then. connecting Hong Kong and Los Angles is clearly possible with the technology we have.

[@williamwang2716]

Why? Just join the Air Force if you want that experience. It is very fuel inefficient to fly even close to sonic speed, at ~0.92 MH, drag gets exponentially steep. $$$

[@ej_tech]

@@amanvds I would like that and hopefully I could afford it in my lifetime. A non-stop Manila to San Francisco flight is 12 hours long with the vast majority of it over the Pacific.

[@amanvds]

@@williamwang2716 Well, Drag is not a big problem at Mach 2 or 3 we already have Scram jet engines, which are highly fuel efficient. We also need to develop engines which are non petroleum based, for example Hydrogen and other non polluting fuels. Hydrogen is already used in a lot of rocket propulsion systems ... a hybrid between a jet and rocket is also possible.

[@Studio23Media]

The longest flight I've ever been on was about 11 hours, and I can't really imagine going much longer than that. I'm too claustrophobic, anxious, and have too many health issues to handle that, unless I'm in first class or something (which clearly I can't afford 😂).

[@michaelvalentine3245]

Lmaaooooooo

[@MrIansmitchell]

Wait, don't you mean connecting flights are priced LOWER than non-stop ones? at 5:10

[@jiaweichen9804]

Yeah, this is quite confusing. At 5:16, it also mentions connecting cost is the reason for higher price on connecting flights.

[@Thor_the_giant_schnauzer]

Just did the San Francisco to Singapore on United’s 787. Word For the wise sit on the right side of the airplane because you’ll be in the sun almost ALL the way on the left window. It dims, but that heat still comes through.

[@door-to-doorhentaisalesman2978]

Neil Armstrong: Hold my beer.

[@thecrap17yearsago35]

Oh my god, Five videos from the last plane video WOO HOO new record.

[@hosshub]

THAT'S FIVE TOO MANY

[@merveileuxdushimeshema2188]

men is this guy a pilot, his so precise on news and information related to the space market.

[@markgriz]

124 flat earthers were triggered by this video

[@KD-ns1hn]

Hahaha..well said! All the tree hugging flat earth no growth marxists were leaving their comments above.

[@marcozolo3536]

Nope, flat earth says nothing about the North pole since its at the center of the map, it's the south pole that's a problem

[@victorang928]

Correction:339 lol are triggered

[@schumi246]

The problem with flying over the south pole, is the lack of diversion airports. Twin engine planes can only fly so far from a diversion airport. I believe the longest ETOPS rating is 370 minutes (6h10m) on the A350 ULR. So, to fly over the South Pole, you’d most likely be on an A380, maybe an A340. Not sure about the range of a 747, because the only real routes, would be from Perth-Santiago/São Paulo/Rio. All at least 8000 miles long.

[@jshepard152]

They don't watch reality-based videos.

[@mohammedhamdyelhadary8451]

Wendover and planes Still better love story than twilight

[@davidellis279]

On some of those flights there's a lot of distance over open ocean with only two engines to depend on.