The Rum (Greek) community of Istanbul

[@kaan1361]

I'm a native Istanbulite Turkish of Albanian origin. When I was growing up I've had the fortune of meeting Niko, a lonely old man with no relatives from Cihangir Istanbul where I grew up. In time my family grown closer to Niko he often took me to movies, restaurants and even taught me how to use utensils. I loved that old man and to this day I still cherish his memories. I really hope by some miracle Greek community get restored at least in my hometown Istanbul in my lifetime. Curse the pogrom and those who planned it.

[@noobsaibot7006]

Analbanian

[@baturbatu6027]

Albanians do not exist in Turkey. The grandchildren of Turkish immigrants from the places there lived Turks and Albanians together, have the foolish idea of their Albanian origin. Funny.

[@kaan1361]

@@baturbatu6027 Sure buddy I'm a central asian nomad whose grandpa happens to be born in Skopje. Since you mentioned history I hope you realize that Ottomans deliberately had no racial categorization but had religious one. Citizens of Ottomans depicted themselves by their religion or as "Ottoman" and "Rum/Rumi". Since all the muslims recorded as Turks by default we effectively have no idea who's what in Anatolia. Turkishness is not a race it's a unitary national identity that encompasses pre-Turkic era of Anatolia and its people.

[@baturbatu6027]

@@kaan1361 utangaç konyalı seni. Ayıp değil Türk olmak ve Konya-Karamandan Rumeline göçenlerin torunu olmak. Üzülme. Avrupanın Kürdü olacağına onurlu Türk ol

[@Schaems_du_disch_nisch]

You are arab ta qifsha kurven e nanes!!! Qiju ti e dhe Turqija

[@wtfimdoinghere]

We are happy to have Rum citizens in Turkey. Hope to live in peace together forever.

[@zimbabwe-wz5iw]

Dude, you made my day. The first hood thing to hear in the last few days

[@tituspullo3184]

@perakole they dont write "İslam" in the id's religion section if you are not a muslim.

[@fusedthewicked7279]

Neoturkish movement supporter detected

[@emreemek34]

@perakole you are completely right. Although I am a Muslim, I am also not so happy to have the type of religion on my ID. This is totally discrimination. This has been applied by military regime in 80s and no other civil government had the will to change there after. Maybe one day, all these stupid applications will be changed,i wish.

[@TomorrowWeLive]

It's their country which you occupied

[@rilonius2865]

This man is unfortunately one of the last Greeks in Constantinople/ Istanbul. It’s sad to see people in their historical land go nearly extinct.

[@ChillyBenpa]

My body is ready like in america?

[@imerror6224]

@Ancient Rageedi Byzantium and all most of the other Anatolian Greek colonies were created without any conquest and they have been inhabited by Greeks for a very long time. The Greeks were also not the only ones who came to Anatolia and settled there during that time.

[@aiplaying8624]

Culturely extinct , genetically not

[@deumevet]

i wonder how many muslim greeks still reside in istanbul. because people seems to forget them.

[@WizavPRO]

Greeks never lived in Constantinople

[@Orthodoge]

Rum, is because the Byzantines saw themselves as the Romans

[@georgebethanis3157]

Byzantine is a fabricated term and it doesn't exist. Only Roman exists.

[@lucas9269]

because they were Romans... The term "Byzantine" was created by Germans during the Renaissance.

[@macedonianhoplite4895]

The byzantium is ancient greek city where the ancient romans had named it " konstantinoupolis" because the roman king konstantinos á established it and the citizens firstly had named New rome and after konstantinoupolis and after the selzuk-turks named "instanbul" and it is greek word and mean "is in city"

[@macedonianhoplite4895]

@@lucas9269 hahahahahahaa good joke . The germans or huns had lived in caves then . And the name byzantium is greek and was greek city

[@baco82]

True. Ρομαίοι.

[@exorientelux7200]

Great to see that TRT produces high quality videos about the historic and cultural heritage of Turkey. I hope one day our Greeks make their way back to Istanbul just like in the old days

[@slowdown7x]

Not unless they allow Turks return to their homeland in the Balkans.

[@MrGiovanniOSFP]

I'm sure people will queue to come back to a dictatorship with multiple war fronts and problems with a devasted economy and the fear of getting abused once again. Don't worry. You can stay alongside your compatriots without us polluting your neigbhorhoods.

[@exorientelux7200]

slowdown7x you can compare Istanbul with Gumulcine. Rest of Balkans ( and Crete) are equivalent of Izmir, Trabzon or Cappadocia. Deal is deal

[@exorientelux7200]

MrGiovanniOSFP turcophobia at its best

[@exorientelux7200]

SuperPagal if only you would know Istanbul Greek didn't leave Istanbul after Istanbul Pogroms. Most Turks were also very shocked, after the events state restored firstly the churches and schools immediately. All the losses of Greeks were compensated, their debts were postponed, and many of the Greek business' were exempted from tax for up to 10 years. Many Turks and Turkish companies helped them to recover by donating money. In 1960, there was a coup, and the prime minister was hanged for couple of reasons including organizing this pogrom. Following these events the Greeks began to live in more decent neighborhoods.Fener and Balat became like a ghetto, that was the biggest consequence of the events. The mutual trust among communities was harmed with Cyprus dispute, in 1974 the state and Turks all wanted them to leave. (Beginning from mid-60's) By that time Greek economy was doing better than Turkish economy, so it became a very big motivation for them to leave. In Germany , there are also such events. Neo-Nazis burn Turkish houses etc. Turkey has changed in decades, there are nearly 4 million Kurds in Istanbul, isn't there any place for 100k Greeks?

[@itsmefatih7192]

Don't forget the Greeks from the Black Sea region ❤

[@cmdlkc]

İsim yok Sorun yok öyleler

[@alisabegic4387]

İsim yok Sorun yok sen mal misin oglm

[@ai-kt3hy]

@BlackseaCoast Vay be ne güzel, Yunanistan'a göç ettirilip de orda kalan Hristiyan Karaman Türkleri'nin karşıt versiyonusunuz insanlarımız çok benzer kültürel kardeşimizsiniz ırk olarak da çok karışmışız keşke kürtler ve araplar yerine daha çok siz olsaydınız

[@mda990]

They are in Greece now after the 1923 population exchange between Greece and Turkey.

[@dbo514]

@@mda990 Apparently some turks still speak a greek dialect around Trabzon (Trebizond). But they're muslim so they're probably greeks who converted to Islam centuries ago and kept their language and therefore were exempt from the religious-based population exchange.

[@FatihBayndr]

There is a mistranslation in video 5:40, Mr. Andon says "Ananeye gore vaftiz edildigim yer burasi" in Turkish which means "I was baptisized here in accordance with tradition(sacrament)". However, it was transtlated as "My grandmother says..." which is not true. "Anane" means tradition in Turkish. QED

[@Botar48]

Emin misin? Ben hep ananeme anane diyorum?

[@zfesiha]

But so many people use "anane" for short way to say "Anneanne" (grandmother). It is common in Turkey. "Anane" (tradition) in the other hand is not very common in Turkish, like I have never heard that word until now. But thanks to you I've learnt it.

[@zfesiha]

But maybe you are right. I checked it again. The grammer is not suitable for "grandmother" "anane" . He would have been saying "anane'm'e göre" if he mean grandmother. My mistake, I think you are right now!

[@Leaf682]

Wow thats a good catch, I never even knew that word and didn't believe you until I looked it up

[@megamillionfreak]

Fatih Bayındır Quantum Electro-Dynamics?

[@subutaynoyan5372]

It's a loss that a major population of Iatanbul just a century ago had to left and only a few of them are lingering.

[@mirandapillsbury7885]

true and same for the Turks in Greece who were once a major population and are now almost non existent.

[@serbanhoza8612]

@@mirandapillsbury7885 there are more than 50 time more turks in Greece than viceversa, and it's all thanks to the 1950 pogrom.

[@subutaynoyan5372]

@@Alex-zi6ym well, no

[@subutaynoyan5372]

@Bakır Bey To be honest, life is proper in Greece too. Even I feel disdain and ill will from Turks just because I'm not a standard sunni muslim nationalist so yeah, Turkish people are not at the top end of world tolerance list.

[@sղղվ]

@@mirandapillsbury7885 not even close, the turks lived in Anatolia, nothing to do with mainland Greece, anything that belonged to the Romans, WILL ALWAYS BELONG TO THE ROMANS, NOW GO BACK TO MONGOLIA

[@alppucar]

It's so heartwarming to get a glimpse of the Greek heritage of Istanbul and see the colorful side of our beautiful country. May we all live in peace, prosperity, and harmony. Much love to Greeks and all our minorities💙

[@ThomasGazis]

"All our minorities"? The Greeks are not just "a minority" that happened to live in Turkey! They are the people who were living for millennia in Asia Minor, before the Turks militarily invaded and subjugated Asia Minor! They are the people who made Constantinople great! So, the Constantinopolitan Greeks are many more things than simply a "Turkish minority"...

[@ceyhunkaya5656]

@@ThomasGazis so you are still and will be a turkish minority in TURKEY...better for you to get used to reality...Your ancestors lived in peace and prosperity in anatolia under governance of Ottoman Empire until their disgraceful betrayal to the empire when it began to lose power... no mercies no thanks by your side to us....so research more about history.. WE RULED YOU FOR 500 YEARS...ACCEPT OR NOT..THATS THE FACT. WE SHOWED MERCY TO YOU AND YOUR CULTURE. YOU BETRAYED OUR EMPIRE Aşk your ancestors they know so much how to swim from İzmir to Athens..

[@K59-l6h]

@@ThomasGazis Boundaries a thousand years ago don't matter.before you there were Lydians, Persians so ?

[@moderndemon84]

Right...

[@ThomasGazis]

@@K59-l6h yes! And before them there were in Asia Minor / Anatolia australo-pithicuses! The nationalistic Turks are putting forward any kind of lame excuse, so that they don't apologize for the crimes they have commited against the Greeks, the Armenians, the Assyrians, the Kurds (who were all indigenous people in Asia Minor / Anatolia before the Seljuk Turks invaded it)

[@hypersp3ce596]

As a Turkish person I am so proud of the Rum community we have in Istanbul. You guys are a real inspiration, love you all!

[@ThomasGazis]

"Rumelian Philosopher" I so much hope that you are a "Turkish Turk" (and not a Pontiac Turk, a Kurd etc). Because a "Turkish Turk" speaking the way you do is one of the rarest rarities one might encounter! And if you are a "Turkish Turk" you are a great hope to all of us Greeks, who are not nationalists and desire friendship and collaboration with the Turks, not enmity and hatred! Turks like you will definitely make Turkey great (the right way)!

[@isnkevkfehbrq]

There is no community but just a number of Greeks and the patriarchal church and that's it. It is embarrassing to deny a genocide , the mechanisms invented from your deep state to vacant the country and Constantinople from the people that was always there for thousands of years and lived next to you lately just because they were Christians and not turkish (1954-55). And now kurds are next .. Spare us with this nonsense with your propaganda TRT channel and try to seek the true history of your people .Do your search like I did but they will never let you do that . So sad .

[@alper4404]

@@ThomasGazisBizim hakkımızda çok yanlış düşünüyorsunuz. Biz kin tutmayız. Milli marşımızda kimseyi öldür demiyor. Biz Rum Ortodokds azınlığı her zaman Yunan olarak tanıdık. Siz anadili Türkçe olan, Türküm ve Müslümanım diyen Batı Trakyalı, Rodoslu, İstanköylü Türklere “Müslüman Yunan” diyorsunuz. Biz barış istiyoruz.

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

its their city, and its constantinople

[@hypersp3ce596]

@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 keep crying kid

[@miketm8200]

The Greek population of Turkey declined from 119,822 in 1927, to about 7,000 in 1978. After the Istanbul pogrom , the Greek population decreased from 116,108 to 49,081 between 1955 and 1960. The 2008 figures released by the Turkish Foreign Ministry placed the number of Turkish citizens of Greek descent at 3,000-4,000; while according to the Human Rights Watch (2006) their number was estimated to be 2,500.

[@beyinless61]

Also Turkish population of Greece and Balkans and Middle east and Egypt and north africa, arabia, russia etc declined drastically after 19th and early 20th century. So never look to history from one side

[@philip2009]

@@beyinless61 they are the ones who came here. Greeks in Anatolia were natives before the Turks came.

[@eroseros47]

@@philip2009 nope greeks came coast of anatolia from greece then hellenistic period they occupied whole asia minor until turkish occupation

[@philip2009]

@@eroseros47 the greeks were native in the Western coasts and they didn't just conquered Asia minor from the natives. They defeated the Achaemenid empire that had previously conquer these lands. Most of the cities in western Asia minor were built by greeks. And the big difference is that in the Hellenistic kingdoms all the people from different nations lived together equally, while Turkey (the ottomans) gave islam more privileges and even ended up genociding and forcing people to leave the country. Not to mention that while greeks were always neighbors to these lands and shared trade and coulture, Turks essentially came all the way from central Asia and Siberia, conquering their way to Asia minor

[@toivo8652]

@@eroseros47 👏🏻

[@republicofshadistan7457]

I am a rum in lebanon 🇱🇧 🇱🇧

[@Erazon]

Hope your community thrive and prosper while preserving your culture and heritage in Lebanon

[@Siomn779nil]

​@@Erazonim Rum from isreal ...

[@ahmedhaljeta8033]

The great and beautiful Greek Culture is a very big and important part of all of us!

[@gostavoadolfos2023]

I am Moroccan and you can ignore how much Greek culture and history affected the entire human civilization in significant positive was.

[@hassouss4512]

@@gostavoadolfos2023 Yeah, they only created democracy.

[@dndjnd981]

@@hassouss4512 not rlly many civilization had some form of democracy

[@hassouss4512]

@@dndjnd981 Yes, but they introduced it to the world, and allowed it to be spread. And not only democracy, they created many more things.

[@areh4159]

So great culture in whole Greece there is not even ones Mosque

[@bandofbrothers1762]

Anatolian Greeks (Rum) are our people

[@exorientelux7200]

onur meggmet Greeks of Istanbul have never been considered Anatolian Greek. The Greeks in modern Turkey are mostly categorized as pontic Greeks (eastern Black Sea), microasian Greeks (Aegean), and Cappadocian Greeks-Karamanlis (central Anatolia). Istanbul Greeks were a distinct and more elite group compared to all others.

[@exorientelux7200]

Anyway, Rum's are our people. 🇹🇷🇹🇷

[@emilyrosewatson3759]

Theodoros Kolokotronis this lands and all of the world just belong to God not to you .you have lived and thats our turn because we won okey so be realistic.and this land is in here Turkey be respectful

[@RoySmith264]

Ethnic cleansing, rapes, murders and forced conversions. I wouldn't want to be your people!

[@DestoV2]

anatolians are the natives of anatolia, kurds, greeks, armenians... etc lol

[@ioannispolemarkhos7364]

They're actually the last of the Romans. When the Western Empire fell, the East remained. They spoke Greek, but they considered themselves Romans. When the Turks came and took over, the Greek-speaking people they governed were called "Rum" or, "Romans" and they called themselves "Romans" and not "Hellenes" even after Greek Independence, unto this day.

[@radunMARSHAL]

Well, not just Greek speaking people, but orthodox people in general. Millet i Rum were Greeks as well as Orthodox Bulgarians, Serbs, Wallachians, Albanians. But yeah, Greeks were the true Romans in that bunch.

[@SenorCollarbone]

@Malic Bk Not exactly. Slavic people did not call themselves Roman, they did, however, have the Roman religion (Orthodoxy) as introduced to them by the Greeks (Byzantines/Rhomioi); but for the Turks Rum = Orthodox.

[@ai-kt3hy]

It is because they are christian lazs, not greeks. Also today turks use the term rum for only for greeks. It is more like they call yunan for west side greeks and rum for anatolian east side greeks

[@optimusprinceps9875]

Ioannis Polemarkhos The last Romans are: The Romansh of the Swiss Alps The French Romands of Romandy (possibly) The Romanians of the Carpathians and Balkans The Greek Rhomaoi of the Phanar district of Istanbul

[@efeercelik5811]

culturally speaking, might be true. However, ethincally speaking, Greeks, Latin countries, Balkan countries to an extent, Turks are closely linked to Romans (Because modern day Turks have more Anatolian ancestory than central asian)

[@muhammadshehreyarkhan1851]

Its really sad to see once thriving community now minority in their ancestral land. I hope they flourish & live peacefully with their Turkish neighbors. The world needs peace.

[@muhammadshehreyarkhan1851]

Your English is fine Yilmaz. And yes you are right that the inhabitants of Anatolian heartland have primarily local ancestry (also Balkan & European one) rather than Greek or Turkic, I couldn't have guessed the narrator's ethnic origin if he hadn't himself revealed it, as the Asia Minor changed hands a number of times in the past. But still some of folks feel nostalgic of their glorious past, as Istanbul was once Constantinople & a civilization blossomed out of it, the Byzantine empire like some Turkish fellows are emotionally attached to the Ottoman empire. The best thing about this magnificent city is that two empire have bitter sweet memories & both dawn & dusk of civilizations are associated with it.

[@muhammadshehreyarkhan1851]

A healthy society's existence is ensured by harmony & justice among its diverse ethnic & religious groups. I don't know if your comment is genuine or sarcastic but either way I humbly disagree with it.

[@muhammadshehreyarkhan1851]

The society you are referring to is a non-existent utopia. Humans will always try to find a reason to exploit others even if they share same culture, religion, language & race. I.e. Rus principalities in Middle Ages share same Orthodox religion & same East Slavic race but fought bitterly for dominance. Same was the case with Mongol empire & its successor states. Multiculturalism has failed miserably not because of difference of opinion but prevalence of ignorance, intolerance & stubbornness among masses to understand & realize grievances of others.

[@eodyn7]

@@muhammadshehreyarkhan1851 the United States would say otherwise.

[@muhammadshehreyarkhan1851]

Can you elaborate dear ?

[@Thelittlelionprince]

I'm a Pakistani Muslim and am so saddened to hear about how the Rum of Istanbul have dwindled. I really hope their community stays strong and thrives. Never let religion divide rather let's live as one. It teared me up when he talked about how muezzins and church choir singers would practice vocals and rhythm together. That's how we should live as one people.

[@mirandapillsbury7885]

Well you should tell that to the Greeks also. There once were so many Turks in Greece and now hardly any remain.

[@Email5507]

@ the oldest history of turks are scythians 600 B.C and ancient greeks were ethiopian semitics so yeah semitic peoples are oldest people in world.

@@Email5507Turk meaning in mongolian NOMAD you are nomads from Mongolia. Islam very young ideology (religion). Ever heard of plato, socrates, aristoteles and the other 100nds of Greeks who are ancient Greeks :D they look like me not ethiopians. Mashallah your head is in your fathers butt.

[@mariuskoala7528]

@@Email5507 There was NO such thing as Turks in B.C. - The Turkish people today are more than 80 % former Greeks. And the Turkish armies of Early Ottomans were Former Alexander the Great (and older Greeks well before Alexander, in 300 B.C.) Greek armies Near the CASPIAN SEA conquered by Kangis Khan and Converted to Speak and be like Them. (less than 100,000 peoples. (Nomads) The Turkish Identity today is Theologically BAD. You are FULL OF FAKE INFORMATION. ! Anatolia were and always was GREEK PEOPLES. Greeks have NO relation to Ehiopians. That is Fake ! Even your alphabet and wave length that Turkish language speaks is FROM GREEK LANGUAGE. The Greeks in Caspian Sea area were 8x more than Greeks in Greece and Anatolia when Alexander the Great Arrived to Conquered the Area. He wrote in his personal diary. Kangis Khan took over region almost 1000 years later and took the armies and made new peoples. (Turkmen)

[@mertozbek680]

@@mariuskoala7528 there were proto-turkic people and they originated in 500 B.C.

[@manospapas5349]

So sad to see the decline of the once-thriving Greek community after the persecutions they suffered!

[@mirandapillsbury7885]

oh well. Same happened to the Turks in Greece. It is what it is.

[@manospapas5349]

@@mirandapillsbury7885 On the contrary, the muslim minority in Thrace has not only remained intact but has actually risen from 86.000 in 1922 to 98.000 in 1991 which is indicative of the way they were treated by the Greek state.The minority enjoys full equality with the Greek majority, and prohibition against discrimination and freedom of religion are provided for in Article 5 and Article 13 of the Greek constitution. In Thrace today there are 3 muftis, approximately 270 imams and approximately 300 mosques. Furthermore, there are 235 minority primary schools, where education is in the Greek and Turkish languages, and there are also two minority secondary schools, one in Xanthi and one in Komotini, where most of the minority is concentrated. There are two Islamic theological seminaries, one in Komotini, and one in Echinos (a small town in Xanthi regional unit inhabited almost exclusively by Pomaks), and the qualification awarded by these institutions has been recognized as equal to that of the Greek Orthodox seminaries in the country. Finally, 0.5% of places in Greek higher education institutions are reserved for members of the minority. So as you can see the same thing did not happen to the Turks in Greece!

[@morphological]

Dear Manos. I am half pomak from Thessaloniki reagon. My mother’s grandmother had to escape when she was a young girl and settled later in Turkey (eskisehir). She had to escape because one day suddenly they found themselves in what we can call a civil war. Neighbors for years started killing each other. Her father being the baker was burned alive in his oven. Horrible things must have happened to our Greek friends in nowadays Turkey too. It is all very sad. But according to my mother her grandmother would always long for her true home and would tell mostly happy stories. I am happy to hear you tell me minority’s are being protected in Greece. My wish is to protect our minorities as well as you do

[@mirandapillsbury7885]

@@manospapas5349 yes but that is one city. Everywhere else except for West Thrace the Turks were kicked out, killed our bullied out. Let's not pretend like this was all one sided please. I think we can agree both Turkey and Greece did very wrong by their minorities.

[@manospapas5349]

@Mi Pillsburry What are you on about?First,Thrace is not a city, its a region. Secondly,you need to get your facts right once again. 355.000 Turks left Greece in 1923 under the compulsory exchange of populations agreed between Greece and Turkey and at the same time 1.200.000 Greeks left Turkey. The only exception was made for the Turks living in Thrace which i covered extensively in my previous comment, and the Greeks living in Constantinople who at that point numbered 250.000 (30% of the population). As for the way the two minorities were treated by the respective countries, the numbers speak for themselves!

[@carlosacta8726]

Giant hug and lot of love to our Christian family in Istanbul!

[@elenik2764]

My mother was from Arnavutkoy, Istanbul, Turkey. Her father was from Fanar. She always missed her homeland that she called Constantinople. My grandmother was there in 1955. My mom told me stories about how it was for Greeks when she lived there. She always said that most of the Turkish people were kind to them, it was the government at that time that that caused problems. Sadly almost all of her family left Turkey by the 1960's. I would love to go back and visit again.

[@muptezelkomedyen4316]

Yes it is a politic that makes people become Arabic and spreading hatred.

[@muptezelkomedyen4316]

@Soundwave 47 Kelepir malmışsın diyorum.

[@isthatskk7042]

Eleni K Lmao population exchange happened in around 1923 so this so clearly bs, by ur logic ur parents are around 70 years old. Also that “home land” belonged to ancient Hitties. U stole land from a certain group of people, we took their revenge. It’s only fair.

[@elenik2764]

@@isthatskk7042 My mother and her family didn't have to leave during the population exchange in 1923. I am not sure why. My mother was born in 1923, so she would be much older than 70 years old! My grandparents and uncle lived and died in Istanbul. The Hittites were native to Anatolia, but they don't exist as a people group today. The Greeks were native to Anatolia. If you look at History you will see this. Just as the Turks are native to Central Asia. I am not sure why you are angry. Constantinople/Istanbul was my mother's homeland.

[@hilale7533]

You're always welcome.

[@СанемДивит-м9н]

Greeks and Turks are brothers, who sometimes tease themselves. 💓

[@plotniski2822]

In which way brothers?

[@alinajuge4332]

@Haris Manou no more with Azerbaijan

[@sto_karfi842]

Greeks can be brothers with ottomans, like many from the muslim minority in Thrace(that unfortunately Turkey succeed with propaganda to turkify, although the people demanded after the Bulgarian occupation both ottomans and greeks to protect them) and the turkish-Cypriots.The turkish nationalism poisoned the ottoman people and now they think they came from the steppes, you can't find turks in the Southern Afghanistan but the modern turkish people think they have relation to them...The only relation they have with the Turks is the language and that's only about syntax,today the only people who refused to assimilate into this illusion are the Kurds and that's because hopefully they had population out of the turkish borders, but you can see how the turkish nationalism treats a vast amount of turkish citizens that refuses to accept the turkish national identity as primary!

[@olbiomoiros]

Санем Дивит i like how you use « tease » but with the meaning of « Turks killing Greeks ». Very « playful » if you ask me.

[@pyrrhocorax]

We are only brothers in the sense that we are humans. By that definition all people are brothers. In reality Turks and Greeks aren't related. They are two separate people.The Turks are of Turkic origin, while the Greeks are not.

[@Emir-ou4ws]

Rums, Jews and Armenians what makes Istanbul what It is. Multiculturalism and tolerance are the keys to achieve greatness.

[@feetus6548]

@no mercy the people going there dont want to integrate or follow the host country's rules

[@gabinator3343]

Emir you can not forget Assyrians

[@Caysari]

@ thats because hate lingers in the air in london or paris meanwhile in istanbul most people are super friendly and most dont care where youre from

[@bastetcat33]

@@gabinator3343 yeah, also them, but they are actually not from istanbul they are from mardin

[@gabinator3343]

Bastet yes you are correct. most of them fled to Istanbul during the Assyrian genocide 100 years ago. A lot of them are originally from Diyarbakir as well

[@tugbaozturk7940]

Respect

[@janiskhan1822]

he such a sweeeeet guy love him!!!!!!!!!! bless him

[@МаркоМирковић-в6ц]

Full respect for you from 🇷🇸

[@blackeyedpeasfreak44]

man the architecture of that school building is still really well kept and is soo beautiful !!

[@alpertunga5021]

The Greeks are the founder of philosophy. We Turks have learned a lot from them. I love their civilization and culture. I love Anatolian Rums (Greek)

[@Beyonder1987]

Greeks of Hellenistic period maybe. Since they adopted Christianity, they threw all those great knowledge away and adopted the beliefs of the semetic people

[@agape_99]

Those philosophers ARE gone way before. Today Greeks are includes slavic/turkish/italic/gypsy mixture in their blood more than ancient people. Anatolian turks have more ancient anatolian genetics( ones except greeks but Real anatolians, Greeks invaded anatolia And made it home just like us) in them than Greeks have ancient greek dna.

[@georgegeorgacopoulos9574]

@@agape_99 Doctor in Genetics I trust. You would be closer to the truth if you narrowed it down more. To be precise it is the Ancient Turks that spread their DNA to other races as they did, spread that is, their civilisation. I refer of course to the glory of the great Ancient Turkish civilisation, the one that laid the foundations to the modern western civilisation through their accomplishments and game changing inventions of kebab, kofte, baklava, hamam, karagoz to name but a few ...

[@Email5507]

@@Beyonder1987 Real greeks are semitic too, they come from ethiopia. but todays "modern greeks" are mostly hellenised albanians

[@splitter9525]

we love you too. From a Greek Aussie.

[@berk8721]

we love rums. we are brother ! no one can break us ! TURKEY

[@bastetcat33]

@@TheEvilEye (s)he said rum, not greek :) there is a difference sweedie. rums are our citizens and they are one of us.

[@philip2009]

@@bastetcat33 they are literally greek communities. Rum is dirived from romioi. The greeks in the Byzantine era called themselves romioi, because they were Roman. Not to be confused with the Rum turks who came in the middle ages.

[@padelispadelidis4229]

@@bastetcat33 rum rhomios Rumluk = macedonia 1700 greek called themselves rhomios

[@padelispadelidis4229]

@Easter Worshipper actually they are hybrids of native anatolians native greeks Balkan Slav Turkic

[@papalagoon3959]

@@philip2009 byzantine sans xd

[@samalik3173]

So amazing. Why you should go anywhere . It is your country and it belongs to you as much as to other Turks . A lot of from Germany.

[@falconstar9970]

I love Istanbul, Orthodox we want peace, please

[@Erazon]

What a beautitul Community hope turkish government do something to stop persecution againt rum community

[@Cor_Inquietum]

He touches upon the atrocities (a genocide, almost) that took place in 1955. The Greek community was amongst the most educated, culturally rich and affluent in the city. Hordes of paid thugs rummaged through the neighbourhoods with only one goal: to scare the Greek community into emigrating. Which they achieved. From over 300,000 people in 1955, to less than 4000 people today...

[@zyclonic5287]

@@Cor_Inquietum my grandmother mum was in ordu a city were a lot of greek/armenian people lived. She was himseöf a armenian but it didnt happen to her anything because the local gevernment knew him but she said that alot of armenians reveolved and killed alot of turks.

[@imerror6224]

@Soundwave 47 Those ancestors forgot to tell you about a couple of genocides that happened before that war. The Turkish invasion on the other hand was totally justified though, right?

[@CataciousAmogusevic]

@@EllasSagapo lol cope Anatolia will never become Greek again and your grandfather is burning in hell.

[@kumsaati6792]

@@EllasSagapo I wonder what will you think about this comment you made after couple of years.

[@CataciousAmogusevic]

@@EllasSagapo it doesn't because the Turkic side of my family is from Dagestan and my mom is Georgian.

[@theunknownpersonism]

The last of the Romans

[@philipbui7462]

Not Romans, only the name was East Roman Empire. They are Greeks.

[@rasmusrw8140]

Well Roman is a very broad term in terms of ethnicity. Perhaps you're refereeing to aborigines from the city of Rome.

[@obabas80]

Fighter Philip make no mistake, Greeks today are a vital part of the Greco-Roman heritage of Europe and all western civilization. We are indeed Ρωμιοί and always will be.

[@ioannisschoinopoulos1359]

@@philipbui7462 Byzantium maintained a lot of Roman traditions and culture, Byzantium was a name which was propped up by westerners who tried to distance Byzantium to the Roman empire

[@milkhoney1631]

@@philipbui7462 if you say so it means you have no idea what romanitas is.

[@imustlol2202]

I loved this story. I'm not Turkish or Greek. I like they live peacefully.

[@mariuskoala7528]

I wish. Would be nice to have friends that respect each other.

[@A_T__]

Awww I love this sweet old man ❤️

[@燕北山前萬梅山莊主人]

I found the Rum and Copt extremely amazing, keeping the 2000+ years old history.

[@JackinGenevaBoogieWoogie]

Müezzinlerle arkadaşlık edip, makamlarını Rum Ortodoks buanilerin kullanması çok ilginç. Aynı şekilde Mısırlı Kopt kilisesinin şarkıları ile orta doğu Yahudi dininin şarkılarındaki yakınlık, şimdi anlıyorum ki, iki dinin din adamarının eski yıllarda yakınlıklarından kaynaklanmış olacaktır. Klipiniz çok ilginç ve çok güzel oldu. Teşekkür ederim.

[@spacewater5866]

Am glad that my fellow Muslims in Turkey respect and acknowledge our Orthodox Christian brothers in humanity and civil rights. Am not Turkish but well done the sons of AlpArslan. 😀

[@narendra62]

Except they don't. Over time the religious minorities have been almost extinguished. This sad old man is reminiscing about the past.

[@spacewater5866]

@@narendra62 wait Isn't Narendra an Indian name? You indian? You have no business to comment on Abrahamic faiths relationship. Stick to worshiping cows you pagan!

[@narendra62]

@@spacewater5866 islam affects us all. In a bad way. So to coin a phrase. You may not be interested in Islam but Islam is interested in you. Just read the Quran and meditate on the word bigotry. And by the way what happened to all those Greeks living there. Read your history.

[@spacewater5866]

@@narendra62 you pathetic pagan fool. NO nation or empire ever threatened Islam. 1000 years we Muslims ruled every continent. 1: Calipha period 2: The Umayyads 3: Abbasyids 4: The Seljuk, 5THE Mamluks And from 13th Century onwards the The great Ottoman Empire. 14 centuries we ruled, advanced sciences, philosophy, academia, No one can kill the Islamic spirit because Islam is Gods Deen. Now, Muslims are humans beings amd no doubt many Muslim leaders hace commited wrong acts. Thats not bevause of Islam. It is because of Human nature. HIndus can never fight Islam and Muslims. Muslims defeated the Roman Byzantine empire, The Persian Empire and the Mogols.

[@EuclesOfMarathon]

refined thoughtz my friend You really know nothing about modern history right ? We are talking about nation and religion genocides that Greeks (including greek pontians) armenians faced...

[@nikolaj4925]

Just so you know. There are no organs in orthodox churches playing. They probably added it to the background music, because that gentleman was a descendant eastern roman/byzantine. Everytime people hear roman they think Roman catholic church. Make no mistake about it.

[@orionnebula2605]

We Greeks in Turkey have left our mark in a good way. More than 12 million Turks are descented of Greeks mostly in Eastern Thrace and West Turkey. I am a Pontic Greek I hate what Turks did to Pontic people but the ancestors of modern Turks did that. I mean that we shouldn't blame the Turks of today for what their ancestors did in the past. It saddens me to see that there are very few Greeks in Turkey nowdays, because we were the majority once. But the past is the past. Peace from Pontus friends!

[@macedonianhoplite4895]

Δυστυχώς συμπατριώτη οι Τούρκοι δεν αλλάζουν ήταν και θα είναι για πάντα βάρβαροι

[@Apistoleon]

There are still many Romeika speaking villages in Black Sea Mountains.

[@macedonianhoplite4895]

@@Apistoleon1. the "romeika" is italian language .2. you mean greeks of pontos in black sea mountains and they speaking greek

[@macedonianhoplite4895]

Κάνεις λάθος δεν είναι λίγοι είναι συνολικά 2.000.000 και το 60% είναι αλλοεθνείς δεν είναι κανονικοί Τούρκοι οπότε δεν υπάρχουν πολλοί Τούρκοι στην Τουρκία

[@dbo514]

Battle of Empires well the Turks invaded the balkans Much of the big cities of Asia Minor were founded by Greeks. Not the same thing

[@DaFooling]

Some of my family is still there. It is desperately sad to see the community disappear.

[@eskihesap9985]

@Crno Bjeli Theyre the majority minority. Which is whats important.

[@giannisgiannopoulos791]

Sad to see what's left of it..Thanks for the video.

[@sufibra1051]

Γιάννης Γιαννόπουλος, there is more left over from history here than whats left over there

[@georgegeorgacopoulos9574]

@@sufibra1051On one side an important civilisation flourished which made a huge contribution to humanity. On the other side, Greece today, there is nothing of significance left by the Ottomans, nothing. Mention one thing ....So no comparison.

[@sufibra1051]

@@georgegeorgacopoulos9574 the world govt systems used today was based on Ottomans. You can research that. Its even too long to write.

[@georgegeorgacopoulos9574]

@@sufibra1051 Really? What is this system of government called? How was it developed and how did it evolve? Where else in the world is it implemented? YOU can research if you want but it's going to take a long time and you ain't gonna find anything. The truth is it doesn't exist and never has. In fact the Ottoman system of government was notorious for its' backwardness, widespread corruption and complete concentration of executive power that scholars of today and diplomats of the time wondered how the Ottoman Empire lasted that long. So if you made a contribution to humanity you will have to try again because it certainly was not that. Science? Literature? The Arts maybe? Nothing, absolutely nothing. Zero. There is not a single individual of Ottoman or Turkish origin that is known worldwide as opposed to this side of the Aegean where there is a lengthy list of visionaries and great minds unsurpassed to this day. In fact the history of Turkey is nothing more than a list of battles, most of which have been won to be fair, but that is about it. In all other spheres of human activity the Ottoman/Turkish contribution is non-existent.

[@sufibra1051]

@@georgegeorgacopoulos9574 I don't have to waste my time with ignorance or maybe naive people, So the Ottomans Empire just sat without any contributions and lasted 600 years. Justice was the biggest contribution and fairness. The so called your side of the Aegean today, how many refugees did they accept? Once the real and honest history is exposed you will see if you still around. The history people read today is fabricated in many ways. Turkish history is not only restricted to Ottomans, Selcuks, Mogul, and before there were other states. i am not a history teacher, but please find someone with righteous views, but i appreciate your research. Also forgot, taught the Europeans how to wash, Hamam Baths for hygiene.

[@oreste8570]

why did they put western church orga music from bach for documentary about orthodox church?! it's like putting shia song in a documentary about sunni community

[@lelemudpalamudic7134]

Why Greek orthodox church have chairs like catholic church ?

[@moow950]

Catholic Church and Orthodox Church are like brothers. We all believe in Jesus Christ. The pope has visited Orthodox leaders regularly. There is no deep hostile rift like between Sunni and Shia Muslims.

[@markeedeep]

Yes, I caught that out right away too. What that ultimately means is the sheer lack of ignorance in the Islamic world (or cultures stemming from former Islamic states like the Ottoman empire) about the difference between Orthodox and Roman Catholic. Mostly they can't tell the difference.

[@joncousteu3588]

Jesus, i really havent looked at it that way omfg. Looooool.

[@28KKaann]

sry about that bro. they didnt have bad intentions i guese.

[@zhillaburns1160]

such a beautiful video. God bless your community

[@granskare]

I was with the USAF near Karamursel. I heard of the riots of 1955. In 1958, when I left my little Turkish hotel..I found soldiers at each corner and tanks in major squares. The government did not want a repeat of 1955...they had no trouble.

[@thanosapokapouallou1325]

There were about 200.000 Greeks in constantinople but after 1955 and turkish nationalism there left only 2.500. Too shame, hope that Turks have changed a bit and welcome Greeks back because we have made such a huge contribution to the city.

[@tsinaropouloschristos593]

@pante spani It will soon become capital of Kurdistan as well

[@eugenisttechnocrat669]

​@pante spaniİstanbul is the most diverse and secular city in turkey.

[@aleccayebi6606]

@@tsinaropouloschristos593 its gonna be your great dream

[@ibrahimyilmaz4861]

Eugenist Technocrat El Azig and some other cities are way more diverse as well as Izmir is way more secular. Istanbul is overwhelmingly Turkish and there are many very religious popele

[@kingkong2415]

Thanos apokapouallou there were 300.000 turks in Greece till 1932, how many are there now? You got our islands, and for that Istanbul is ours!

[@lsa.otherwise]

Beautiful video and fascinating interview. There is just one thing that really bothers me-- the added pipe organ sound when he is showing the church. Organs are pretty much unheard of in Orthodox churches. This is much more of a western, Catholic and/or Protestant thing. And it's western music. As he explains the music of the Orthodox church is much more connected to eastern, Arabic, Turkish, and Byzantine musical traditions.

[@MURATTI77]

Rum Community was 4 million 1915. Istanbul 300.000. Izmir 250.000... my name is Muratoglu from Karafeniz. Granggrandson of Egendi Muratoglu

[@cemasti4524]

I was born İstanbul but this Rum fella is original inhabitant. My parents came from outside and I was born there. And there were many like myself

[@fisebilillah4406]

So glad to see normal people from Greece on this comment section. I seriously lost hope in peace between Turkey and Greece when I was reading the comments on documentary about Muslims in Greece. *But Internet does not represent the majority, just the LOUDEST.*

[@eneshan3442]

@@MikhaelAhava History is past. Please don't cry and make friend from Turkish, maybe break down prejudices and meet us

[@MikhaelAhava]

@Rito Amça fair enough, I think I’m okay with ng colonizers… oh wait, I live In a puppet state.

[@SonoftheSteppes]

@@eneshan3442 They are still ethnically cleansing the Greeks in Turkey. Stop trying to downplay your genocide.

[@mariuskoala7528]

Peace will begin when people are educated properly.

[@xander1201]

@@SonoftheSteppes lol tf still cleansing the greeks in turkey. dudee are u really that stupid

[@edboss36]

I respect Greeks and Christians. In Tunceli my grandparents lived with Armenian Christians together!!!

[@Greg-cf4mm]

All my grandparents were greeks from turkey and came here in Greece in 1923 after the population exchance

[@yesthefloorhereismadeoutof238]

I hope turkey , stay's strong and independent and secular country forever .

[@eugenisttechnocrat669]

Secular i hope not but strong and idepenbdent sure.

[@ubisons6161]

Everything except Secular

[@gandalfthegrey2592]

secularism is the scum of the earth

[@ubisons6161]

@@josephjoestar4633 ağla

[@josephjoestar4633]

Ubisons binali gibi mi?

[@tanikou2195]

Peace and Love for all the People in the World...it doesn't matter if you are Christian or Muslim ✌🏽❤✌🏽❤✌🏽❤ we must live together

[@alexandrostheodorou8387]

Greeks have a right to be salty about the past. We lost the Roman Empire and the worlds most beautiful city. But the Turks have every right to be proud of their people. They made Constantinople beautiful again after the centuries of decay due to the Latin Crusaders in 1204 and made a extremely powerful empire with Constantinople ruling again.

[@mtm7470]

And.... they changed Constantinople's name. What a shame.

[@sufibra1051]

@@mtm7470 All the Ottoman owned lands name have also changed.

[@osmankurt6982]

@@mtm7470 changing its name is worse than actually taking over the city itself?What are you even smoking ?

[@ΝικοςΚαμαριωτης]

@@sufibra1051 Why would they stay the same? They got the names that they had before the Ottomans back!

[@berkehan4678]

Roman Empire isn't Greek.

[@TheCarameldance]

Hope this video inspire a producer to make film about 6-7 september mobs. Idk why there's not a film or series about it already. It's a heartbreaking yet interesting part of history to film about.

[@sertankacar8594]

That is really sad what happened in 1955, Turkey lost an important Christian population. However, what is done cannot be undone, we must look into future and love each other, we are all Turkish here even if our origins are different.

[@muratkalmaz7615]

merhaba kardesim 1995de hiristiyanlar varmiydiki turkiyede benim hic bir bilgim yok belcikada yasiyorum ama turkum kisaca anlatabilirmisin

[@sertankacar8594]

@@muratkalmaz7615 1995 yılında niye Hristiyan olmasın. Elimde nüfus müdürlüğüne ait belgeler yok ama bunu rahatça bulabilirsin. Sonuçta ülkemizde halen yaşayan Yunan/Rum, Ermeni, Süryani, Bulgar gibi türlü milletlerden insan var.

[@theodoruspantelides8661]

@@sertankacar8594 heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account

[@sgourkon8742]

​@@sertankacar8594you are wrong... Turk citizens does not mean Turk. In Greece we have Turkish minority and Thrace and muslims who are not Turks and still exists to this day and have rights. Of course they are Greek citizens. We did not organize pogroums or hunt them down.

[@nikos8247]

We (Greek and Turks) have more things in common that we would like to admit... Unfortunately when we are born the first thing they tell us is that the other is our enemy..

[@Peristerygr]

Αnd many keep it until the end -even if they meet the other every good gesture is seen as cunning.

[@avtaras]

Ofc because Turks are 75% just Turkified Anatolian Greeks

[@nocommentnoname1111]

@@avtaras "Turkified Anatolian Greeks" - mumbo, jumbo.

[@nocommentnoname1111]

It's all about "συμπεριφορά". When someone wants to drill in your waters or wants to take half of your islands, then unfortunately that does not promote good relations.

[@fishcereal9940]

I'm not a Turk or a Greek and your two cultures are extremely similar

[@dimitrismouratidis2419]

1956 Greeks in Constantinople 130.000 2019 Greeks in Constantinople 3.500 Very friendly countrie......NOT

[@HIYAKUT]

Yes. I'd rather see more Greeks in İstanbul than Kurds or Syrians. But it's too late, the damage is done.

[@makaveli6126]

we didnt force them to go believe me im not christian and muslim either

[@nehirhalclar3845]

I'm half greek and i can say that some Turkish people didn't behave so friendly but most of the Turkish people especially the well educated ones don't have any problem with Greeks but you need the accept one thing it's ISTANBUL now :)

[@georgegeorgacopoulos9574]

@@nehirhalclar3845 You do realise the name is still Greek. ΕΙΣ ΤΗΝ ΠΟΛΙΝ, meaning TO THE CITY, sounds like IS TIN POLIN, ISTANBUL

[@dimitrismouratidis2419]

@Malic Bk what do you mean Greek-macedonia; Macedonia is only Greek Macedonia was ancient Greek kingdom the slavs you talk about was communist and with other Greeks leave the country in civil war 1947-49 the Greek country don't hunt them because they speak Slavic language! About the Albanians do you know that a large territory of South Albanian known as North Epirous and the Greeks minority there the only Albanians in Greece is economic refugees

[@denizthemenace2000]

Kalbimi ısıtan bir video oldu. Teşekkür ederim.

[@vaszi101]

wow. he looks like such a nice man. i’m glad to have him in my country

[@HanWeBlame]

@MistakesWereMade pogrom of istanbul happened when turks thought the greeks in cyprus would massacre the turkish minority. Still not an excuse tho

[@HanWeBlame]

@MistakesWereMade thats true, I might come off as a dumbass conspiracist but it was all planned

[@uzakada7261]

We have not forgotten the genocides that the Greeks made against Muslims in Mora-Thessaloniki..

[@i_likemen5614]

There was a population exchange between Greeks and Turks

[@bakrdemir8656]

also in anatolia they are monsters

[@karl5722]

Rum is similar to Rome because as a fact less known by the general public, the "byzantines" never called themselfs that name but still considered themselfs roman. So this is why we have the rum community. (In lebanon there is also Rum catholic). Byzantine was a name given by renaissance thinkersm

[@basartv5880]

I like how turks are embracing and welcoming minorities from the past, especially greeks, but somehow there isn't 1 mosque left standing in Athens. Speechless.

[@sto_karfi842]

This isn't about equality here, the greeks who rebelled at 1821 were what it left from the Roman empire and their country and capital as well as their nobility was under foreigners and was vastly converted to Islam, also the Janisaries were by force taken from their families, that gives no space for mosques in the Greece that the 1821 rebels shaped!Also blame your own goverment not the greeks, what future the greeks had under turkish rule(? ) they would most probably vanish and remembered as a relic of the past!Sorry to tell you, but Egypt was christian(heretics but Christians) middle east too, minor asia too and what more...these lands had as dominant culture the greek for almost a millenia.Why should we have a mosque in Greece since you have built countless in the greek heartland your ancestors conquered from us?

[@ultrasgreen1349]

Lol, thats because there was none from the start. Athens had declined and was just a small village when Greece was liberated, with insignificant buildings accept ancient ruins ,it was decided for historical reasons to become the capital of the Greek Republic and after that it became an important city. Answer me this. After Lossane treaty, the Greeks of Imbros (Gokceada) , Tenedos and of Constantinople and the Muslims in western Thrace, were exempt from population exchange. There were 250.000 Greeks in Constantinople and in Imbros 7000 (almost 95% of the population). How many are they left know?? Turkey with discrimination policies managed to kick them away. I wont go in to much detail, 7th September 1955, a pogrom against Greeks and Armenians (as usual) took place in Constantinople. 5000 Greek shops, 26 Greek schools, 12 hotels, 21 nurseries, 73 Greek churches were destroyed. And 2000 greek women were raped in a single night. On the other hand Muslim minority in Greece was 90.000 when Lossane treaty was signed and its 150.000 know. We respected your people and left them to thrive but you killed and torture all the Greeks there (in violation of Lossane treaty).

[@xtremeownage2]

It is suicide. Don't do it. The Ottomans were nice to foreigners before and they called it the "Ottoman Capitulations" which were not capitulations in the normal sense, but over-tolerance. Protect your culture and religious-identity. Christians will do anything to fight you, just like they used the "Ottoman Capitulations" to invade the Mughal territory and other Muslim lands. Do not make the same mistake. They are better out. Focus on Turks and your own people. Don't let these minorities in. They killed 7 million+ of your people in the later 19th century. Don't forget that.

[@xtremeownage2]

@Soundwave 47 , share this video with your English speaking friends: AUmxsOl8ZmY They need to know the real genocide was against 7 million+ Turks, not Armenians. KZbin is blocking this video in many European countries, if you can't view it, then use a proxy (i.e. VPN).

[@sto_karfi842]

@Soundwave 47 I know, we aren't welcome in the land that we lived for 3000 year plus 1000 under the ottomans and other turkish states, while you have occupied it for only 1000 and that's not for all of modern turkey...As for Pakistan, like turkey exists to block the northern power of Russia, Pakistan exists to block India from becoming what China became...But as happened in WWI it is certain that once geopolitics change your states will collapse...And in the case of turkey you will pray for having greeks armenians and kurds, cause they are close to your culture but you will most probably result a chaos like in Lybia...

[@zarategabe]

These are the Romans that are still with us today.

[@Siomn779nil]

Im Rum greek from isreal levant all the greeks call them selif Rum

[@davidrichards8793]

My Grandmother was born in 1943 and was 12 when she had to leave, moment of silence for all victims of genocide across the world.

[@rafraf5184]

My grandfather was (git) from instabul he was very rich until one day he lose everything I'm happy for those people because they have their own house's😢 so touching!!!

[@ConstantineJoseph]

Probably one of the last peoples connected to the Romans in some tangible manner

[@razagoulbruce3044]

True

[@FarfettilLejl]

In what manner? Explain please

[@razagoulbruce3044]

@@FarfettilLejl he means genetically since they didn't abandon the culture

[@hattorihaso2579]

@@razagoulbruce3044 genetics and culture are 2 different things though

[@alejandrosotomartin9720]

You forgot a whole country called Italy but to East Rome or also called Constantinople yes, they would be the last ones.

[@ainsivalavie9946]

Rum are the first people of the actual Turkey. Erzurum in arabic mean the earth of the rum meaning earth of the Greek. Peace fron morocco

[@fisebilillah4406]

They consider themselves Romans, which means that thes originate from before the Ottoman conquest. They are pretty much the citizens of Istanbul that did not convert and intermingle with Turks. The current Muslim population of Istanbul can also trace descent to the Eastern Roman population of Istanbul from before the conquest.

[@obabas80]

To some extent they can, but not to a great degree. This is because in May of 1453 the original inhabitants were totally obliterated/slaughtered/sold into slavery and the city basically depopulated until a short time after the Turks moved in. Later on, many Greeks from other Greek lands returned to bring their numbers back up, but those never mingled with the Turkish occupants and were slowly decimated again up until their complete disappearance in about 1955 during the Turkish pogroms.

[@Üstad_15]

Actualy mostly peoples stayed according resaarch after 1453 . City popilation grow up from 50 ~ to 700 thousand

[@Kaiyanwang82]

@@Üstad_15 The original population disappeared in 1453. The guy above you is correct. Mind it it was brutal but normal for the time due to the bloodiness of the siege. Fatih repopulated with some captured people but mostly were outsiders, Rum, Turks, Armenians or whatever. This is why the population grew. It was already very low because of the 4th crusade.

[@zhaw4821]

They were Roman citizens. Ethnically they are Greek

[@ney57e]

It's funny how the greeks in Turkey look exactly like normal turkish Istanbulites. The facial expression, the colouring and the structure. Identical. You really can't tell. It's either a testament to how Turkish the greeks are or how greek the Turkish were.

[@lsa.otherwise]

I think it's a testament to how there is a shared culture of the city that is neither "greek" nor "turkish." People have been living together for centuries before the invention of nationalism.

[@invoker7826]

He does not look like Turkish Istanbulites because vast majority of residents of Istanbul are either 1st or 2nd generation migrants. He looks like my father's family who are originally from Tranbzon but migrated to Istanbul in the 1800s though.

[@gnas1897]

Well first of all there was a lot of DNA mixing during war time. Secondly, many of the Turks in Turkey (and Istanbul) are Muslim Balkaners (Slavs, Greeks etc.) who either fled during the conflicts (1903-1913) or were moved during the population exchange. (Note that according to the ottoman empire, all Muslims were considered Turks. It was Atatürk who gave Turks the modern Turkish national identity).

[@OnlyInCyprus4]

Greeks Forever ✌️

[@niakowinchester]

Man, i remember loving the Turkish tv series "a marriage with a foreigner" (Yabancı Damat). It was really good and portrayed the situation very accurately.

[@pyrrhocorax]

Fun Fact; This series was, also, broadcasted to Greece under the name "Τα σύνορα της αγάπης" meaning "The borders of love" There, also, exists a Greek series named Ταμάμ(Tamam) based on a German series named "Türkisch für Anfänger", which focuses on a Greek-Turkish stepfamily. It's classified as comedy-drama.

[@BELOVEDThessaloniki111]

True! It was the first turkish tv series broadcasted in Greece. A huge success too.

[@dimostychalas9716]

Constantinople looks great.

[@mirandapillsbury7885]

ugh get over it. It is now called Istanbul.

[@dimostychalas9716]

@@mirandapillsbury7885 We still call it constantinoble in orthodox countries ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@pampi7471]

@@mirandapillsbury7885 You do know that instabul is a greek word right?(ιν στην πολη)which means to the city.Either way you are calling it something of greek descent.Also whats your problem we orthodox christians like to call it constantinople is that a problem? Are you offended of a name?

[@imerror6224]

@@mirandapillsbury7885 So? We still call it Constantinople.

[@bilfa98]

@@pampi7471 you can say constantinople in your language but in english it is called istanbul but the commenter still called the city constantinople although he was writing his comment in english because he was obviously trying to be provocative. the official name of the city is istanbul everywhere except for orthodox countries. i'm not offended but i think that this was a bad attempt to provocate turks.

[@noiith99]

Turkey has its rich in culture..... secularism of turkey is unique....great

[@farazkhan7035]

Very good journalism. Keep up the good work.

[@vasilis7076]

From 300.000 100 years ago(1920) to 110.000 in 1955 and to like 4.000 now

[@Original_BrosTV]

Well the cause of it is genocide. Like they did against the Armenians and assyrians.

[@Jim63071]

@Da Turk Mapper Constantinople was exempt from the exchange. It was the targeted taxes and the pogroms.

[@DutchBane]

Muslims tend to do that to their minorities.

[@timothy9434]

The video says "there are roughly 2,500 of us left". Soon there won't be any. The Patriarchate is already moribund and without real relevance anymore and should close. Eventually it will.

[@vasilis7076]

@@Jim63071 you are right, the christians of constantinople and the muslims of eastern thrace were excluded from the deal

[@javiernoruego6572]

I wont be satisfied until constantinople come back to greek's hands, Long live Greece and Rome fathers and light of western civilization Saludos desde España Χαιρετισμούς από την Ισπανία Greetings from Spain

[@FarfettilLejl]

Then I guess you'll never be satisfied. And while we're at it, when the hell do you even care? It's a Turkish city

[@i_likemen5614]

I wish at least a decently large Greek or Christian community can resurface in Istanbul again. It's such a shame how an ancient and important city for Christians has barely any

[@Hasanbas-rv3vm]

Only when large muslim turkish popaultuon can reserface in greece😊

[@kaanpeker8284]

Adam müziğimiz Turk müziği ile ayni diyor, makamlar, nağmeler. Siz adam bunu söylerken arkadan organ basıyorsunuz.

[@hugobarrett63]

söyleniş açısından, enstrüman açısından değil

[@kaanpeker8284]

@@hugobarrett63 Rum-Ortodoks kiliselerine git bak bakalım organ var mı?

[@sudishka]

Kaan Peker organ katolik kiliselerinde yaygin dimi? ne demek istediginizi anlamaya calisiyorum yardimci olursaniz :)

[@mami42g]

@@sudishka evet. yani ortodoks kilisesinde değil, katolik kilisesinde organ olur. rumlar da ortodoks olduğuna göre uyumsuz olmuş.

[@sudishka]

Muhammed Gökmen anladim cok tesekkurler

[@ranaturkman7944]

I am struck by the comments of some ignorant people who say that Istanbul is not Turkish origin and the Turks have occupied it They then ignore the genocides committed by the Americans, French and Russians against the indigenous peoples of the Americas and others

[@alperenbaser5595]

@George Prasinos Where is proof of genocide made by Turkey ? Turkey founded in 1923. Also Anatolians were not speaking Turkic nor Greek. They were their own language but they are assimilated by Greeks and after by Turkic conquest. When Turks conquer Anatolia they were %10 of the population.

[@ranaturkman7944]

@George Prasinos Your history is full of bloody crimes and massacres Read the history of Europe Read about the french colonization of Algeria After the collpase of the Ottoman Empire the french Killed Million of Arabs in Algeria Let history. Do not go too far look what Americans did last 15 year they have killed more than one and a half million Iraqi citizens and 2 million Afghans ... With which right do you charge or accuse Turkey? We are to charge and accuse you ..

[@ΑντώνιοςΕυάγγελοςΒασιλειάδης]

There's a difference between "I Indeed committed a genocide and I am sorry" And "I deny that I ever committed a genocide, despite the fact that everyone else knows I did it"

[@ΑντώνιοςΕυάγγελοςΒασιλειάδης]

@ArcticHawk-1 Wait, you either messed up the punctuation, or you make zero sense. "Demanded by us" as in, "You ask for money and land?" or as in "Other people ask for money and land" (I assume the latter is what you meant).

[@markeedeep]

So you basically admit the city was conquered and that the native population's identity was forcibly changed. What do you find shocking about that?

[@AlLaST0I2]

The sad remnants of a once glorious past!

[@Kleptomaniac66]

@@BasileusAlexandrosGRAIKOS no. In the 1960s Greeks were persecuting Turks in Cyprus.

[@Kleptomaniac66]

@@BasileusAlexandrosGRAIKOS Cyprus was independent until a Greece backed coup led by junta in Cyprus, overthrew the President of Cyprus so that they could create a puppet state. The legitimate government of cyprus had supporters and the Greek Junta persecuted them, then later on blamed the Turks. Greece invaded Cyrus, not Turkey. Turkey went to war in Cyprus because of the Greek invasion. Get your facts right lol.

[@ikielinsesi1843]

@@BasileusAlexandrosGRAIKOS It is also Greeks' fault. Greeks supported The Young Turks over Sultans. Sultans were the real heroes for giving Greeks freedom in religion, law, teaching etc. and saving them from massacres and pillages. Mehmed II was the one who stopped the pillage of Constantinople, Istanbul in 1453. Sultans were the guarantor of the peace of Greeks in Ottoman soil.

[@ikielinsesi1843]

@@BasileusAlexandrosGRAIKOS The ones who forced Greeks to convert Muslim or Turk are the ones who don't practice Islam. The Young Turks and the ones they influenced in later generations were against religion and religious people. The Young Turks are fascists just like you said, they don't have anything to do with Islam, they also damaged Muslims badly.

[@fattypopulista8189]

@@BasileusAlexandrosGRAIKOS Henry Kissinger advised Turkey on how to invade Cyprus.

[@kokturk2772]

I'm turkish and I have many greek friends in greece too. When we talk about politics, we have the same opinion about the fact, that it wasn't our fault that our countries fought each other. With other words, if we can't forget the past, then the hate about our both great cultures will continue. We should improve our friendship. In the end, we're all humans...

[@pyrrhocorax]

We should never forget the past, because if we do, we will forget who we are. What makes us Greeks or Turks and our different cultures. What we should do is recognize that the past is the past and that no one can change it no matter what and move on for a better future. Of course for that to happen, there is the need of Turkey to recognize the crimes against its minorities and vow that a phenomenon like this will never be seen again.

[@pyrrhocorax]

@Battle of Empires I don't really know about Russia's crimes against Muslims and if the accusations are real or not. So, I'm not going to comment on that. The Balkan states that have committed crimes against the Muslim and the Turkish population with the intent of genociding them should recognize it too. Greece's Turkish population has been mistreated in the past(The slaughter of Tripolitsa where mostly non-combatant Turks were slaughtered), but not to the same extent as the Turkish or other Balkan states. Greece isn't responsible for the senseless execution of hundreds of thousands of unarmed Turks,like Turkey did, so it shouldn't be put into the same position as it. The crimes should be recognized, but not as a genocide. The Greek Muslims of Thrace have a minority status in Greece and have been rarely mistreated.

[@PAPASTHEGREAT]

Those Greek Friend you have they also Stupid as u are.

[@PAPASTHEGREAT]

@@turkaslan5149 Come and try Ottoman Coban We even had the chance to fight in Cyprus.

[@MikhaelAhava]

@Shard duh… cause people retaliated, they had enough of the long Ottoman rule. Naturally they’d not be so trustful.

[@burcukoc8799]

I just read the comments and I feel really disappointed for the amount of ignorance!! Race is a social construct that only loosely based on biology. You guys think you are Turkish or you are Greek but cmon guys we lived together for a really long time and what you think you are is not just more than a though. Our culture, our food, apperance etc had mixed through the years and there is NO ONE with a pure race or ethnicity. So please wake up and realize that your hatred towards each other is not for something more than a made up label. People made mistakes ,Turks,Greeks does not matter. I am not responsible for the actions of the government in my country so neither you are. Instead of having such a hateful hearth I all encourage you to have more understanding and love. We dont have any other way out. Peace and love ❤

[@DoctorGravity642]

These are kind and sweet words but the harsh truth and reality is based on facts and past events, not on red roses and purple unicorns. So allow me to be a little more suspicious when I hear about how your country handles it's relations with all it's neighbors. I don't have to look far, a quick glance at your country's history is enough.

[@yagizkart1]

Does anyone know the name of this song/hymn that starts at 1:17, or at least the category of it? A spesific name would be appriciated.

[@andy1992uk]

Constantinople, greek for 4k years. Now hardly a few hundred left.... well done Turkey.

[@raidernation2163]

Well what you expect from a Christian country that was hungry for reconquer all territory lost since the Byzantine days and it was not only the Greeks that got displaced all the Turkish Christian population got expelled to Greece too

[@zoey8430]

Constantinople, beautiful. May the Agia Sofia rise again as it's intended use a Greek Orthodox church!

[@headlightspirits]

it should be a museum

[@Üstad_15]

Haha constantinople conquered , just like Athens for more than millennium

[@LordHugorion]

So sad that nearly none are left. The world was so different not even 100 years ago, so more colorful, and wherever you look today nations are more or less clearly separated. So Its no wonder, that peoples meaning on each other are often corrupted by illusion, and hatred like it was hundreds of years ago, even there was no big war since then. There are wounds that need help to heal, more then never before. Let us take that lesson together

[@gamgaraii9707]

Churches exist but without congregation! A sentimental story.

[@mertozbek680]

Rum : normally means roman but today we use it for greeks living old byzantine lands

[@padelispadelidis4229]

Nope its for romios and it means orthodox Christian byzantine empire citizenship Hellene name was banned for paganistic reasons

[@mertozbek680]

@@padelispadelidis4229 I am Turkish and i know about my language.

[@padelispadelidis4229]

@@mertozbek680 I wasn't talking the your language i talked why they were called rum

[@occihum9115]

@@padelispadelidis4229 Idiot, that was the meaning of the word in medieval times, nothing to do with today. He's right, you're WRONG

[@Siomn779nil]

​@@mertozbek680im Rum greek from isreal levant all the greeks call them selif Rum

[@gri_adam]

My father was a tailor. He learned tailoring from an Armenian. He always tells us that they are very good people and that they love me like their son. The Armenian and Greek population, mostly doing business in Istanbul, still lives actively in Turkey. And they are all very good and qualified people. I'm glad they exist.

[@VasileIuga]

Hi from Romania, sir!

[@AMOSS1970]

Rum doesn’t mean Roman in Turkish, it means Greek..

[@paulmayson3129]

The modern turkish term “Rum” comes from the arabic “Rûm” which was their name for “Roman”. But as the terms “Romans” and “Greeks” are essentially the same thing, you can also say that “Rum” refers to Greeks.

[@paulmayson3129]

What kind of mental gymnastics are those? It is not logical to say that because the Gauls were not Roman the Greeks weren’t either, that argument is stupid and irrelevant. And obviously you know no history, as every free person, regardless of ethnicity, was granted a roman citizenship in 212 AD with the Antonine Edict of Caracala, effectively making them all Roman. Roman never meant an ethnicity but a citizenship, and that was the case since Romulus himself! So your point is heavily flawed (and also probably biased). The Romans, who were originally italianized mycanaean arkadian Greeks, were heavily (re)hellenized during the times of the Roman Republic due to contact with the Greek city-states of South Italy and Sicily but also from contact with the Hellenistic Kingdoms. By the times of the Roman Empire the Roman State was effectively a Hellenistic State, with Greek an official language along with Latin (which according to the people of the era was a barbarized Greek dialect), and a representing of the Greek Civilization but also with Italian elements, mostly known as the Grecoroman Civilization. When the Roman annexed a country they would Romanize it, except if it was already Hellenized as both were pretty much one and the same except from the language. Moreover, as the Empire was divided the eastern part that survived was predominantly Hellenic or heavily Hellenized. According to a demographic record of 530 AD the Hellenic part corresponded to 2/3 of the state! This portion was that survived after the Arabs conquered Egypt, Palestine and Syria, thus the Romans were by then mostly Greeks. And because of these reasons, the Roman term, which was founded by Latins (Oenotrians>Arcadian Greek) upon the Greek Civilization but in a way to include other peoples, the Greek Romans were those who managed to unite almost all Greeks (not the Indo-Greeks and Bactrian-Greeks) under one essentially Greek State, and which eventually shrunk to encompass only the Hellenes and the people who were mixed with them and Hellenized so heavily that they were Hellenes, that the term Roman had become a synonym of the term Greek, as much as the term Greek is a synonym of the term Hellen. I think this approach is also taken by modern Turkish as realized by the Young Turks one century ago, but with big differences.

[@paulmayson3129]

Turks have a reason to be biashed and insist on differing the Greeks of Greece and the Greeks of Turkey as they logically wouldn’t want them to have a claim on Asia Minor, in the sence that they have people there. However they are the same people, the descendants of the Greeks/Greek speaking Romans who are well known nowadays as the “Byzantines”. Actually I believe it is rather funny how they deny that the Greeks of Greece are Romans, while they are calling them Yunan, which comes from the name Ionian and Ionia. And guess what? Ionia is the region around Smyrna (Izmir). However they simply used theses designation because the Greeks put more emphasis on their Greek Heritage while electing to ignore their Roman Heritage (and the two don’t come in conflict) giving the Turks reason to do the same for the Roman Greks who still put emphasis on their Romaness. Sorry I made a mistake. The Young Turks wanted to create a nation state by uniting the peoples of Anatolia under one banner the Turkish/Turkic Heritage and Turkism. But it is not exactly the same, it is the Ottomans who were closer to what the Romans did. Actually I truly believe that the Ottoman Empire was illegitimatly an islamic and turkish version of the Roman Empire, as taked by the Roman Greeks. Concerning the ethnicity and the citizenship, you are comparing different situations. Modern France is a nation state that simply had a large influx of immigrants from their former colonies. The Roman citizenship was more like the American on of USA, but it was also closely liked to language and culture, as one would need to assimilate to the Grecoroman Civilization and be either Romanized or Hellenized to become part if it, while in America they partly except that after the granting of citizenship. And yes while the Roman citizenship wasn’t based upon ethnicity, originally most of the Romans of Romulus were Greeks (Sabines~Laconians, Latins~Arcadians) and the said civilization was mostly Greek in the process of partly local assimilation.

[@alsharq5658]

The Roman Empire, while founded by the people of Rome, and more broadly Italy, incorporated all the Greek-speaking areas of the Mediterranean and Black Sea. The empire was eventually split into two halves - the Latin half, and the Greek half. Both halves considered themselves equally 'Roman', especially after the Emperor Caracalla made pretty much all freeborn men in the empire 'Roman citizens'. Educated people all over the empire were expected to know Greek and Latin - Greek was the language of education and culture, Latin of administration and the military. After the Western Empire fell, the only part of the 'Roman Empire' left was the Eastern Greek part. The modern word 'Byzantine' was completely foreign to the empire of that name - they always called themselves 'Romans'. The language they spoke was referred to as 'Roman'. Over time, most of the Byzantine people forgot that 'Greece' had ever existed as a concept. The Turks, who of course had no knowledge of the original Roman Empire based in Rome, simply followed the lead of the Byzantines, referring to them as 'Rum', or alternatively 'Yunan'.

[@greysonnaller2079]

last vestiges of the once mighty Rome

[@Siomn779nil]

Im Rum greek from isreal

[@teddykayy]

I wish they let us hear the choir.

[@bastetcat33]

I wish things were more different and we had a more diverse society in Istanbul...

[@mirandapillsbury7885]

you do have a more idverse society. Most of you guys are mixed race any ways lol. Salonik and Athens also used to have huge Turkish population and now not so much. Both Greece and Turkey betrayed each other and their people

[@bastetcat33]

@@mirandapillsbury7885 well yeah turkey is a pretty diverse place, there are atleast 72 different ethnic background. However, because of the Treaty of Lausanne we do not consider non-turkish muslims as a minority. What i really mean was I wish Turkey, big cities like İstanbul had more christian and jewish population. we still have armenians, greeks and jews in İstanbul but the numbers are decreasing, because they do not see a good future in Turkey, so they are immigrating to foreign countries.

[@bastetcat33]

@@mirandapillsbury7885 by the way, yeah, there used to be Turkish population in Athens and Thessaloniki (infact, the parents of my grandparents used to live in Thessaloniki but they had to move to turkey after the Population exchange between Greece and Turkey in 1923.) but I couldn't understand what you mean by betrayal, could you please elaborate on that?

[@schwarzkopfmorgenland2046]

Peace !!!!

[@alexisgateley230]

Google search "istanbul 1955 pogrom" and choose "images"..there you will see what the Rum minority went through on that date by their fellow Turks

[@enesdolangez8389]

LOL WE CAME FROM MONGOLIA SNOW CAPED STEPPES AND INVADED YOUR ANATOLIA AND KNOW ITS OURS HAHAHAHAHAHHA

[@Physicist-]

@@hoplite101able it be like that sometimes

[@enesdolangez8389]

@@MikhaelAhava And France massacare of syria, africa, Great Britain massacare of africa and india America Massacare of iraq Spain massacere of latin america and mexico

[@MikhaelAhava]

@Saltanat-ı Alem Penah Spaniards they did crap to my country, although a lot died through sickness. The rest weren’t heavily massacred just colonized, I guess that’s war? Edit: Technically they didn’t commit genocide in Iraq as far as I’m aware. Though they did mess it up, thanks to Bush and Obama has done recently, though it dates back two centuries ago.

[@enesdolangez8389]

@@MikhaelAhava Who caused sickness

[@GK15000]

A sad story of a conquered land and ppl. I hope the Greek/Roman community returns and grows in Instanbul (Constantinople)

[@zeus756]

I will always support my GREEK BROTHERS MY STOLEN CITY OF CONSTANTINOPLE. OUR ANCESTORS BLOOD IS THERE. 😢😢 VIRGIN MARY IS CRYING 😢 FOR THE CONSTANTINOPLE. 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷

[@edrolbueno2390]

Don't worry Turkish people will realize that they are GREEKS someday.

[@mda990]

@@edrolbueno2390 Anatolia was never Greek. it was just colonized by Greeks just like Turks. and in 1923 they (1.5 million Greeks) returned to Greece by population exchange between Greece and Turkey.

[@orionnebula2605]

@@mda990 1.5 million in 1923 was a pretty large number. Plus don't forget the 15 million Turks descented of Greeks today.

[@ubisons6161]

@@edrolbueno2390 I did a DNA test and i'm more Mongol, Central Asian and Persian than Greek

[@P7777-u7r]

That’s interesting the descendants of the Greeks/Romans never left there

[@xdjjssjajsjsns8655]

@Cem Ülger sonunda şunu farkedebilen nadir insanlardan