The Sad State of Burn [Limbus Company]

[@Kerubii22]

Ally with the most SP support passives aren't actually random anymore. It prioritizes the order you selected them in team, so Hong's support passive is really consistent so you just need to slot ish or gregor at first and second slot and burn count will flood in as long as you maintain one of them at 45 sp This also makes something like Burn Deluge/Burst or somethin pretty strong, so I just hope they do uncap it. Its not like its a game limitation to cap it

[@amyyost7022]

Video outdated before it was released. A finger curls on the monkey’s paw

[@holycheeseduck4729]

I think this is a new land speed record for ESGOO Outdatedness. Don’t worry fam, it’s aight, just need a little pinned comment or something

[@flunterklufin485]

Bro thanks for the SP bit that shit fuckin helps

[@meowspark9]

"If we ever got a Philip Sinclair" lmao

[@senseimonkey2959]

17:40 Man really willed Outis into existence

[@triphankieutrong5283]

It gets funnier when you realize outis is one of only 2 sinners incapable of inflicting any burn through EGO... ...the other of course being Hong Lu, one of the few with a burn id Project moon release schedule is hella wack

[@abyssbloodgazer6801]

GUESS WHAT

[@averylazydevil]

And now Philip Sinclair into existence

[@Egalia_1]

ESGOO has discovered his stand ability. It causes Project Moon to contradict whatever he says in a video

[@besttoiletfixerever]

quick esgoo say about ways to make charge more braindead!!

[@shocksword6847]

Inb4 Ahab Ishmael turns out to be a burn ID for literally no reason whatsoever.

[@zodaloo9303]

An aberration of Pat's [CRAZY TALK]!

[@HandleDeeezNutz]

​@@shocksword6847There is a reason, you see Gasharpoon has Gas in it, Gas can ignite and cause fire, therefore Gasharpoon can cause fire and is hereby a poise, charge, burn ID!

[@EternalBehemont5000]

@@besttoiletfixerever Any charge Essay just backfires making charge more overpowered, if he does, we are getting W/R Outis before even getting Farmwatch XD (We still remember W Sang no?)

[@BrayPlaysNin10do]

“Every video I make lately immediately becomes outdated” This aged like wine

[@lordkaidan6943]

ESGOO: "burn is meh" Limbus: "RELEASE THE BURN OUTIS!!!"

[@adamastus56]

Now comes a new era of the reverse ESGOO curse, where anything mentioned in a video won't come to fruition.

[@WakkaMadeInYevon]

Classic desire sensor in full swing.

[@ChSVaness]

Just you wait until we get Liu Faust and Liu Sang... Someday... Hopefully. (I-lost-count-how-many hours of Burn team copium)

[@BowlofColdSoup]

If that happens, Esgoo will definitely release a video talking about how he wishes for more charge IDs

[@jakejohnson718]

​@@BowlofColdSouponly for THAT to reset the curse back to everything becoming outdated

[@knightly4490]

How do you feel now

[@misukuisgone1174]

Holy shit his curse worked.

[@РоманПідгайний-п2о]

Filip Sinclair to, He predict him Holly

[@mirethix484]

Man with Dark Flame released with the upcoming magic bullet outis... YOU ARE CURSED MY MAN

[@lacuevadexavier]

The curse is working

[@defaultprofilepicture3203]

it's hilarious how ESGOO somehow predicted both the 000 Outis and the 00 Ryoshu

[@zhanglaoshi5529]

Philip

[@NoodleDoodleWasTaken]

15:24 You predicted Philip sinclair 4 monts in advance, esgoo curse is real 😭

[@Lfk_777]

based commenter right here

[@tyrahnon]

Mad lad actually did it holy shit. Dark flame has completely turned around relevancy of burn with the new outis ID

[@HopefulNarcissus]

Update: Burn is now back with magic bullet Outis-

[@AngieBeef]

Thank you for Magic Bullet Outis, ESGOO. :D

[@BobpleTheGreat]

Please curse! Burn is such a fun team, give me more!!!! (I love playing with pretty much every team comp, and it is nice that MD3 (From what the notes) it seems to be easier to start with the appropriate ego gifts for teams that need it).

[@lunaproc4913]

Monkey’s Paw: we get burn id but it also has charge

[@BobpleTheGreat]

@@lunaproc4913 That would be painful. But at the same time, ESGOO reaction would be very funny.

[@ГригорийСоколов-ь6й]

@@lunaproc4913 Funny incendiary ammo-rabbit (R corp Ryoshu?) and/or some W corp shenanigans (plasma as burn/charge synergy)

[@graybuthere7322]

I love how fitting the background music is, being “The Fire is gone” from Ultrakill’s OST

[@AWrySmile]

Oh the irony, considering what we hope the ESGOO curse does…

[@lizzzbenoist]

And thus PMoon released 30 Charge IDs and EGOs at the same time just to spite ESGOO

[@mrrp405]

burn charge………

[@notshinjiikari9996]

@@mrrp405god I want flamethrower IDs!

[@gadro333]

Liu Gregor was one of my first IDs when I downloaded Limbus, and I did realize pretty quickly that compared to my other base sinners and other IDs at the time he had REALLY underwhelming coin power, even if I didnt understand the concept that well. However, he's still good to use in teams and also because he's like one of the cooler Gregor IDs to me personally. Sumn about him stands out I guess

[@funninoriginal6054]

It's 100% that swag ass uptie 3 pose and cool as fuck gauntlet. Bro might not be the strongest id but he certainly hits hard appearance wise

[@sirpotato8733]

Same until I got Zwei then I trashed him the smoking S3 really like it

[@gadro333]

@@funninoriginal6054 nah yeah, bro's quotes/voicelines with Dante in the main menu as well as his combat quotes are (metaphorically and literally) fire asf. Rosespanner Gregor was a close 2nd to me, then Zwei Greg came out.

[@ravipedroza2034]

Ironically, to me it was the contrary- when I used to go with him, he seemed OP even

[@OhDearDoc]

ESGOO’s EGO: [Curse of Prophecy]

[@Kylotl]

Stigma Workshop themselves would be such a fun faction to see in Limbus... Workshop stuff and Burn stuff needs much more representation in Limbus, and Stigma is one of the most frequently reoccurring Workshop with stuff like supplying Dawn's Office with their weaponry and having a similar ignition device to the one used by Liu Association, as well as providing one of Ezra's more commonly used weapons. They could very easily have their own burn-adjacent debuff they inflict, given how their weaponry leaves behind intricate burn marks, being stigma. There's so much potential and it's just something I really hope to see.

[@funninoriginal6054]

I feel like if Stigma members appear as ids, they're definatelly gonna fill the half Charge half Burn gimmick like how Rosepanner Meur and Rodya does the same for charge/tremor and Rosepanner Greg and Wi Sang for Charge/Rupture

[@jun2467]

You know PM hates burn when their baby Hong Lu who usually gets busted IDs gets a fairly average one for burn

[@memes_the_dna_of_the_soul5487]

Okay, but would it be neat if one ID just had a flamethrower.

[@Kylotl]

@@funninoriginal6054 Based on what we've seen from Stigma, their weaponry really doesn't seem too reliant on that of power to the extent of Rosespanner. The ignition device itself you could argue about requiring charge, but I don't think workshops and charge need to correlated all the time; there's a lot of variety for weaponry in a world so heavily defined by its logic breaking singularities!

[@edgedancer4750]

Honestly, at this point I'd take a taste of Lulu's flaming bat, if that meant more burn.

[@elesissieghart3103]

Outis: ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF

[@Tomzin20]

thought you were gonna start by saying “i. am. *FIIIIREEEEE-* “

[@jackofrost1548]

Glad I'm not the only 1

[@ClaireCrayon]

15:24 i dunno phillip sinclair seems pretty unlikely

[@nonkafighter]

yeah no way project moon will ever do that

[@paigelux4819]

true

[@holycrapitsachicken]

I'm surprised with how many 4th match flame E.G.O. there are, they haven't even made one that makes the enemy's burn explode in 4 turns. The closest one is just the Ryoshu one's passive.

[@xennomorph]

Literally came back to this video because of the new BURN ids

[@lilkobold9455]

Holy shit, predicted fuckin philipclair happening

[@ДмитроНикишенко]

me when im in a predicting the most random shit ever competition and my opponent is ESGOO: Seriously he fucking jinxed liu rodion and ryoshu, AND THEN PHILIPCLAIR

[@Lh0000]

As predicted by the great prophet ESGOO, Philip sinclair never wants to run 9:2 and would actually rather run soup over it

[@involuntaryascetic3602]

congratulations, you did it, you manifested Magic Bullet Outis into reality

[@jellybunny7013]

I feel like a lot of the reason why burn has been underwhelming in this game is because the devs wanted to avoid another Ruina situation. Lowering Burn Potency and capping it so that players don't reach ridiculous levels of burn that would allow them to circumvent certain fights (see Scardey Cat and Road Home as example) . I do really hope they ease up on Burn, since I would like to see DoT effects get more love. Besides, these are the same devs that let Sunshower and Quick Suppression slide on the devroom floor, but god forbid a Liu ID who's main damage is the burn they proc do more than 3-4 in a turn.

[@grayrodent8232]

From what I hear, unlike Tremor, the problem with burn isn't burn... It's that 3/4 of the units that can apply it are either garbage or stuck in early unit hell. That and we don't have burn Ryoshu, for some inexcusable reason. It would be hilarious if she ended up being a 000 Liu Director.

[@Takeimika]

Xiao ID lol

[@qazisgone7292]

Lowell and Philip id lol

[@Qobp]

It'd be even more hilarious if she got a garbage 2 star ego with horrible rolls/no burn count application

[@SolXeko]

I'm hoping that she gets a Lowell/Xiao ID, it really fits her considering how Xiao's story in LoR is

[@BlackHadou]

"Sinclair gets a Phillip ID" SPEAKING OF THAT!

[@bgammax5842]

pausing at 16:59 the way you get Pride without any actual pride skills is using Meursault's Chains of Others, which shares the distinction of being an EGO whose sin affinity is not part of its cost with Suddenly One Day and Yi Sang's Dimension Shredder

[@aponia8604]

The new Outis id is a burn id

[@odium_chlorite]

15:22 Esgoo, please, become a prophet

[@Joe19219]

I love the little animations and stuff you do, it makes the identities feel so full of life. Especially the one at 11:40.

[@leviatnrossello3170]

Sooo, Philip Sinclair?, okay, this really aged like wine

[@NoblesseOblige-17]

My man weaponizing his curse.

[@dylanger1015]

btw yeah this changed with oats, she IS SO GOOD WITH BURN, SHE DOUBLES BURN AND DOES CRAZY BURNS!

[@themadsuika3909]

Someone said Philip Sinclair? Son of a sin, you did it

[@Matthias-pj6th]

8:46 This isn't as random as some people think: If multiple Sinners are tied for the most SP, it actually goes in Character Slot Order (Note: NOT Speed Order), I.E. if Liu Ishmael is slot 3, Regret Faust is slot 5, and W Don is slot 6 while all 3 have 45 SP, Liu Hong Lu's passive will ALWAYS affect Ishmael. I would also like to note that Ryoshu's relationship with Burn could be interesting from a story perspective given her literary inspiration: She is based off of Yoshihide from the short story "Hell Screen" by Akutagawa Ryuunosuke, who is driven to insanity and suicide after his daughter was burned to death in front of him.

[@jakcesleepingrn5739]

What if someone will have 45 SP with higher slot? (For example if cinq don is slot 1 and molar outis is slot 2 and they're both 45SP) Will Hong's passive just turn off?

[@Matthias-pj6th]

@@jakcesleepingrn5739 No, they would receive the benefits of the passive (Assuming they have Burn skills). The point being that if your strategy is based off of "Most Sanity" Support Passives on specific characters, you should always shove them in Slot 1.

[@blazichaos7181]

Thats interesting, I wander if the reason they havent released a Ryoshu burn ID is because they intend to give her a burn ID in her Canto as the "big final/maybe the end bosses ID."

[@Shadow6OO]

One idea I have that would make for some more interesting status IDs (that'd benefit burn the most) are status-fueling IDs. What I'm thinking is IDs that apply one status type, but apply that status exponentially better against enemies affected a lot by another status type. For example, let's take an ID that has a 4 coin skill, it will apply one Rupture potency each coin, however if the target has 10+ Burn pot then it will apply +1 Rupture per coin, and if the target has 5+ burn count, then it will apply +1 Rupture count per coin. Doing split status teams usually ends up with a lot of status but lackluster damage from them, however, with IDs that apply a ton of another type of status when being fueled by large amounts of another status it will make multi status teams way more viable. And since burn is so easy to build up and maintain it will have the easiest time to activate the requites on skills for these status-fueled IDs, making burn a central hub that can pull off lots of different status.

[@Blissty]

15:25 ESGOO predicting the phillip sinclair id

[@Lone_Archiver]

3:23 Rushdown with his passive actually applies 6 burn, allowing him to get that nice but not crazy +1 attack power as long as his passive is up and he doesn't lose a coin in a clash

[@Not_Rui_]

They'll be making us a good Burn ID with good burn buffs next week ESGOO. Your curse activates once more.

[@mushy8768]

philip sinclair.. huh..? esgoo curse is real..

[@jaredlol1]

Been waiting for this since the ego tierlist debate.

[@spaceexe5997]

bro actualy got hexed by project moon 😭😭😭

[@Codenamel3oom1]

Thank you for your service

[@sodaleopard]

thanks esgoo

[@Terragamer42]

17:38 the curse!!!! the curse is real!!!!!

[@madnesscombattalesfromneva8110]

>philip sinclair 15:25 ESGOO CURSE YOU

[@mrrp405]

At least this I’m pretty certain will have a solution soon. We’ve all felt what they did to us with Xiao’s unique debuff. But yeah, burn needs an accelerated effect. Also I’m praying for a seasonal burn ID for ryoshu, think of the narrative…

[@funninoriginal6054]

You can use chef Ryoshu as a "pseudo" burn id if you get lucky enough to get fiery down in mirror dungeons

[@KnakuanaRka]

Yeah, Burn needs something akin to Sinking Deluge.

[@ScarletDevilVam]

See this is the kind of video to get us a Xiao ID next Walpurgis

[@iaminyourwalls3889]

ESGOO on his way to corrode after project moon immediately releases only burn IDs for the rest of season 3:

[@jun2467]

Project Moon: drops Liu Faust and Liu Yi Sang right after this Everyone else: all hail Lord ESGOO (Copium)

[@alvino57]

Very cool. Only rupture, poise, sinking, bleed, tremor, and haste left. My condolences :)

[@monokun_6072]

rupture teams are viable(talisman sinclair, the dimension shredder debuff etc...) sinking is also viable and is carried by rime shank, bleed and poise seem to becoming actually viable and better now(for bleed:hook hong lu, first mate yi sang, queequegcliff, kurokomo ryoshu and rodion, etc)poise(pirate gregor, blind obssesion ego and more but im lazy) the only unviable are tremor and haste

[@Peppy10003]

New Cinq ID will be tremor charge burn!!! Let's go!!! Esgoo curse strikes once again!!!!

[@lukaasadorian5824]

3 weeks later, one of the few sinners without a burn ego gets a burn id that offers better burst damage for the status

[@okami_kamkam]

Walpurgis Outis called, she wants to bring more Burn Synergy to you

[@nightmoon5589]

Me coming back to this video because funni magik gun

[@fish2845]

Welp. Liu IDs are here.

[@malleuslimbus]

17:00 The multitude tightens its hold...

[@ojamajocarnival]

I'm trying to think of some non-Liu burn ID's and the only ones that come to mind are.. Philip and Lulu. There's not really much notable burn-appliers in LoR!

[@LongNguyen-cz5ty]

Xiao, lowell and any other liu ids?

[@hellbounded2602]

​​@@LongNguyen-cz5ty they typed non liu, xiao and lowell themselves are liu

[@Blind_Obsession]

Some few more: Dawn Office; Salvador and Yuna The Thumb (tbf they have flame ammo but I wonder how they'll touch on the thumb) Xiao (Liu Association) Lowell (Liu Association) Miris (Dedicated to dealing Stagger Damage with Burn) Chun (Dedicated to inflicting even MORE burn) Mei (Fuckin' Unstaggerable) Cecil (Rock Wall)

[@vulpes2417]

There's the rest of the Dawn Office, but that's still only 4 outside of Liu tbh. Even then, I feel like Salvador is the only one with a chance of getting in

[@malleuslimbus]

Lobotomy E.G.O::Feather of Honor?

[@RussianCollapse]

thank you for continuing to make Limbus content, since you're my only source of actually understanding the game

[@yes7634]

*I can't be the only one who expected "I am FIRE!" at the beginning of the video.😭*

[@NeutralFork]

Holy shit it actually worked Der Outis is a burn id what the fuck esgoo

[@Trinitonian]

Super excited for where they go with burn, I also love the archetype and especially Liu Ishmael, and I think you're spot on with the speculation based on 9:2 Faust (surely, right?). I also actually really like the idea of them going in the direction of largely working with plus coin boosts, as it reminds me a lot of Liu working heavily off of emotion level in Ruina. Anyway please release Xiao Faust PM I am on my knees begging (also 10/10 ending)

[@KC-oi3ct]

😊

[@Slozhnaaaaaa]

Thank you ESGOO, can't wait to see tomorrow an announce of Liu banner

[@anxia-tea5846]

well, they’re releasing new liu ids now.

[@abyssbloodgazer6801]

17:40 Bro got the curse of PM and the gift of Nostradamus lmao

[@jaruhcaz]

So this video really was made before Outis and Rodion got their burn IDs LMAO

[@terry5183]

Thanks for new burn love with Walpurgishnacht Outis, bro. The curse is real.

[@envemailer]

-"no plus coin sinc with a lust skill" -"no liu banner" wow he really is cursed

[@hieby9714]

You did it!!

[@phivieto9319]

At this point, I am convinced PM probally have a massive screen playing this video on loop in their room.

[@Ninja_Bryden]

The curse strikes yet again

[@RenoKyrie]

Liu Ish and Ardor Blossom would be great if there were any other good Burn ID that would help her 9:2 Sinclair would be great if we have any Lust focused Team and again, Burn ID

[@BonkHazard]

Technically Nclair is a burn ID, not to mention the 9:2 ego has a passive that helps Nclair reach lower sanity by making head hits subtract sanity.

[@Tam-Ezrac]

If you want some ideas, I git 2-ish: {Oil}(Also known as make it LoR again): When present on a unit, take [X Potency•1/3 of Y Count] damage, and reduce Count by 1/3(rounded down) {Ignite: Type A}: When present on a unit, trigger Burn on a successful hit by X Coin Slot on an enemy/body part. Ex: Enemy has 3 Coin Slot=3 Activation of Burn(consume 1 Count per usage)+1 regular activation. {Ignite: Type B}: When present on a unit, trigger Burn on a successful hit by X Coin Slot on an said unit. Ex: Ally has 3 Coin Slot=3 Activation of Burn(consume 1 Count per usage)+1 regular activation. If you didn’t catch it, the difference between the {Ignites} is: one is based on the enemy(A) and the other is based on a Unit(B) I hope this goes into the curse of Es-*GOAT* in some way, shape or form!

[@smugofbishamonten1447]

Hear me out "Overheat" Once the burn potency reaches 50+ for each burn infliction deal extra true damage equal to burn potency inflicted on targets while inflicting said burn potency

[@theiceprince5546]

Dark Flame, mmm nice

[@en3677]

Did a MDH run with a full burn team after Der Grandma dropped and dark flame does bring burn together. It made the whole run a breeze... up until I rolled Faelantern as the final boss. Good god it's hell with it cleansing the debuff every time it switches making the fight a sluggish war of attrition

[@borger8045]

sinclair also needs more negative sanity ids also i can totally see philipclait being a negative sanity id

[@borger8045]

lilu faust BETTER have a gluttony s1

[@connorherron8607]

I remember having this idea for Liu Sang, as seen in Hong Liu's pre-uptie art, having "[On Hit] If target has X Burn, inflict Attack Power Down/Plus Coin Drop" or something to that effect to give Burn teams a debuffer to assist with setting up risky-ish clashes. In my head he also used Praying Mantis style martial arts and looked so rad.

[@tenkokyuubi5161]

Meanwhile me maining burn since day 1 of liu and laughing at people burning at 99 damage, and canto 5. I will say the railway was a pain due to first two were anti burn. Surprisingly Gregor always would win in clashes that were hopeless. When everyone fails he still surprises and surpasses until Sinclair is in a mood.

[@KiraHakoto]

Oh whose turn is it to tell him?

[@tatters8236]

Don't remember where I saw it (sorry if it was somewhere on this channel) but one suggestion I stumbled across for burn was as such: A new status called something like 'Powder', powder stacks up easy but has no effect on its own. However, when someone with powder takes damage from burn, all the powder on EVERY enemy goes off, potentially dealing a lot of damage across all enemies. Sure it's still just a big damage thing, but at least it activates in a unique way and if, for example, Powder doesn't totally go away when set off you could set off explosions from several enemies in a turn by spreading burn.

[@juliangabriel]

One thing to note is that as HP totals increase, direct damage can keep pace theoretically with offense level, but status damage stays the same. Either status has to keep getting more and more potency, or HP pools need to stop increasing.

[@fikrimaulana6631]

Congratulation Esgoo, you have broken the curse. It's not burn but Cinq

[@jakejohnson718]

He's started a new curse, now nothing will happen to do with his videos, until he does something to reset the curse to it's original state

[@theoldmanofthemountain7514]

Can't wait for the next Burning IDs in the next weeks following your curse! Thank you!

[@greyviscount.78]

it actually worked

[@theoldmanofthemountain7514]

@@greyviscount.78 The curse is real. Now let's wait for the next prediction.

[@awanama4565]

Surely we will be getting that burn deluge copium

[@hangelbaerchen509]

Liu hong lu is valid because once he reaches high sanity he can basically applly 6 burn count with his s2, which is nice to have to quickly set up burn on multiple targets

[@wantShiba20]

Yeah, I don't get why ESGOO missed that part of the Skill 2 its even in the video haha.

[@davishmayo1643]

Crazy how there’s three more that were added as of now (right before season four release)

[@leggie6092]

I love the humor in these videos. One of the reasons (other than the amazing editing) that this is my go-to channel for any in-depth info on Limbus. Also I can't be the only one that noticed the AoT reference at 18:27 lmao

[@waluigisbizzareadventuresi1430]

15:28 the curse was greater than we thought! Funny how PhilClair doesn't need any other ego beside Waxen Pinion (his own ego)

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

Yeah. Blazing Strike even rolls almost as high as Ardor Blossom Star

[@alexyunikki4476]

ESGOO I watched this and then got N-Corp Sinclair in a single extraction so thank you

[@whiterook79]

Sometimes i wish Potency/count didn't exist and was like in ruina that the effect was both at the same time. I loved doing bleed/burn teams there. While in limbus i just spam charge units and that's it.

[@perzival3244]

Cool cursed video! I can't wait for them to announce the new 00 Lulu's office fixer heathcliff and 000 Dawn office operator outis in roughly 1 week!

[@ozozo12345]

I love coming back to old ESGOO videos and just seeing his curse really take action months later Just on the 2nd Walpurg, Magic Bullet Outis Burn EGO with no way to fuel Gluttony = Liu Ryoshu No Liu banner = Liu Ryoshu and Rodya Yi Sang doesn't have a Burn ID = Ring Yi Sang Literally joked about Philip Sinclair, need I say more Your Curse has done more for Burn than anything else... yet, the Shi have nothing save for a very, very minuscule amount of Mirror Dungeon EGO gifts, which do make them more consistent at least. The day we get a Shi banner, it will be the day I spend money on this game