The Sad Truth About Open Gate (Why People Think They Need It)

Here is the sad reality about modern cameras and the demand for open gate. It's not for what you think. We battle 35mm lenses today. Zeiss 35mm f2.8 vs Voigtlander 35mm f1.2 vs Canon EF 35mm f1.4 with the 7 Artisans EF SE adapter. Then switch from Sony A7S III to Canon R8 answer 5 hobo photographers.
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[@cameraconspiracies]

If you buy today's gear through my affiliate links, you can shoot a documentary about how mowing lawns kills the invisible societies of grass ants. Sony A7S III amzn.to/44n3EcY Canon R8 20% off! amzn.to/3UpErKt 7 Artisans EF SE Adapter amzn.to/3w7nLiZ Zeiss 35mm f2.8 amzn.to/4doJ2oK Canon EF 35mm f1.4 amzn.to/4b0sqSH Voigtlander 35mm f1.2 $200 off! bhpho.to/3Pw5pOi Fuji XS20 amzn.to/3QrE2pz Fuji 70-300mm amzn.to/4aYNtFr Canon 800mm f11 amzn.to/4aWCOen All my gear and recommended products can be found in my affiliate shop, thanks for shopping around! www.amazon.com/shop/vegetablepolice

[@Jason1fromNYC]

Good idea for a doc.

[@WisePhoenixRising]

That sounds like a great deal. Dude, I admit I don't know half of the photography terminology you so anamorphically use, but I love it, your channel and I thank you for the unequivocal gift of laughter every chance I get to watch. You are truly talented in a million ways, so, just as you may not be able to part with Sony (? That's next), please stick around until I graduate. It won't be long, I'm 69 and no one explained anything about this gawd-awful process. Just like the birds & the beeeez! So not fair. But neither is adolescence, acne or 2 inches. Carry on my wayward son...❤

[@bethlenfalvydavid]

I can't tell you how much your T-shirt is confusing my depth perception in this video. It's like your chest is 5 feet behind the rest of your body.

[@Outlabyrinth]

😂

[@funky_9_]

Looooool

[@markfischer5112]

The shirt's reverse 3D pop is insane

[@falxonPSN]

Inverse Zeiss 3d pop

[@schmui]

Even further. The font is blurrier than his furniture in the back so I'd rather say more like 40ft oooooooookaaaay now he's switched to the Voigtlander and shit matches perfectly.

[@krishnakumarr9619]

Got my first pair of glasses , fricking Zeiss, the 3D pop is real.

[@WanderingYooper]

The blurred Toneh shirt is a must have! I can't stop squinting my eyes at it! Genius! 😂 👏👏👏

[@rahulfilms1840]

I thought you said squirting eyes

[@bradl2636]

The pop on the Voigtlander is next level

[@Jason1fromNYC]

It be popping and shocking and rocking

[@erlantzbilbao9550]

To your question (I'm parafrasing) "in log they have perfect skies but they underexpose your face, every camera company does that, why?". The explanation is simple. Digital cameras preserve the highlights because if they are blown there is no way to recover them, and underexpose the rest of the image because you can recover the shadows in post. That's it. Yes, doing that ads noise, but they rather have noise than a blown out image. Cheers! Love your channel!

[@igorsvabik1121]

An interesting usage for open gate is, that when you shoot in open gate and you actually shoot in portrait mode - you rotate the camera 90°, there is nearly no rolling shutter effect on Panasonic S5IIX.

[@quadmods]

Big boy, cinema is yours Senny 416 mic… I’m overjoyed with the sonic pleasure it provides my ears via you voice. Like a full massage for my ear drums… As lovely and phally fantastic as it is, that slender black piece needn’t be in shot if you don’t want. It can be like a hockey stick distance away and it still will provide it’s sonic magic pointed correctly, bit O gain. I’m so happy, cheers sir. 👍🤟

[@timshields8720]

That spike haircut of yours was all the rage in the 90s. Impressive that you are trying to bring it back.

[@audioupgrades]

Mohawk hairstyles are actually traditional among the native people of the Ontario region. (Although, it's referred to as a fauxhawk if you don't shave the sides.)

[@timshields8720]

@@audioupgrades not from where I'm from they're not bud

[@audioupgrades]

@@timshields8720 The Mohawk tribe were native to Ontario.

[@POVwithRC]

​​@@audioupgrades That's cool, but has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Mr. Sternberg is not an abbo

[@timshields8720]

@@audioupgrades GFY

[@brakel8r]

my dad was the chief engineer at a major studio in chicagoland..., Sony bodies and Canon lenses were the combo🤙😎🤙

[@iphoneography]

Now you've done it, a vertical movie theatre coming soon...

[@nooddles12]

tried my 2.5k bmcc with t2 35 ef at a recital. it was magical. heavy, but magical.

[@SquillagusNiggle]

I can tell you from personal experience, the R8 rocks as a wildlife camera. You DONT need IBIS sync, it doesn't even work at telephoto focal lengths, *it switches off* and leaves the lense to it. The 100-400 non-L is a great lightweight tele (better than the older non-L EF glass) but really, you want the expensive teles like 100-500 or 200-800 and just suck it up. Mind you, if you're carrying that much lense, the body weight doesn't matter so toss-up between R6II and R8.

[@Nick-4K]

Open gate is so beautiful tho. All that information!!!

[@Jason1fromNYC]

Truth.

[@BirdingBird]

Beautiful magpie 😍 Love the little marking under the right eye 🥲❤️

[@johntupper1369]

I live in the mountains in Tennessee and have really enjoyed my S5M2X with 1.8 primes for landscape, portrait and travel photography and family event video. Thinking of aquiring that panny 70-200 2.8 (or f4?) with the 2x for birds, bears, and other miscellaneous wildlife.140-400 f/8 with crazy ibis seems ideal for beginner wildlife shooter

[@discodiffusioner]

The RF 100-400 is a fantastic lens. At least for wildlife still photography. The only downside is if you're shooting at sunrise or sunset when it's darker out. In any other time, it's been fantastic. I'm always out during the day and have had zero issues with it. Plus, it has a minimum focus distance of less than 3 feet at 400mm. Yeah, it doubles as a great macro. The sharpness rivals the 100-500. Not much bad about it, especially when you can find it for $450 new during sales. I'm shooting with an R7, so i'm getting the IBIS sync plus the 1.6 mag, so i'm shooting a 7 stop stabilized 160-640mm for $450. Life is good.

[@Bobsmithabc]

This video opened my eyes to how much lighting affects the 3D look.

[@blackmamba6938]

The Action 4 actually has Open Gate. That's why they're leading the Action Cam industry. Open gate must come to all cameras.

[@thebentzenable]

As a scrub saving up for the R8 and a wildlife lens, this episode was just what I needed 👍👍🤞

[@PixPete]

I just hate widescreen. I want that 4:3 goodness on a CRT screen.

[@Andisend]

:O not using a VDU? … old school ;P

[@Nearest_Neighbor]

One of the B&O ones. 🤤

[@dareks8000]

My eyesight has always been widescreen - and in 3D! :-)

[@C.I...]

@@Nearest_Neighbor Those ones don't even make a screeching noise because they run at double the field rate of most other CRTs.

[@POVwithRC]

My nigga 🤝🏻🤝🏻🤝🏻 4:3 forever

[@thebentzenable]

The 3D pop on the Voigtlander was definitely the winner today 💪

[@walkingin321]

Thank you for your all your videos, always bring a smile to my face and learn, take care ✌🏼

[@charliejg]

The pop on the Voigtlander lens is off the charts. The Canon lens was darn close too. Question: Is it possible to get pop close to great with a good lighting setup? Can lighting give you what the lens may not on its own? Have a great day!

[@JoeMaranophotography]

You need to make a camouflage Toneh T Shirt so I can be out of focus and camouflaged at the same time! Nothing will see me!

[@KatySei]

For dynamic stabilisation like in zv e1 you need more than 4k because it crops.

[@SonoranAstro]

you look healthy my man, came a long way

[@cheetos585]

So funny! I saw that turtle on a skateboard chasing a cat video just yesterday. lol

[@veritas932]

I saw a cat beating up a turtle with a skateboard today

[@C.I...]

You are an expert in getting me to accidentally click on your 5 photographers asking stupid questions thing. (Also, one can "purse" one's lips, piercing one's lips would involve unlicensed surgery in a very small shop by someone who smokes their own hair given half a chance.)

[@baldrider]

When you are king of the internet, can you make it so that social media is only cats and dogs and turtles on skateboards chasing cats?

[@PatrickWithCamera]

On Ziess and Voightlander the image looks as if the character was cut out from another frame and pasted into the wrong background.

[@noordstede6408]

People feeding Grizzlies and then get eaten by the bear themselves are perfect for social

[@KabukiStarship]

Open gate is good for anamorphic lenses. The lens is actually wider if you use 16:9, but you lose some sharpness, which maybe preferred with a Sirui Saturn lens.

[@mjklein]

Vertical video is like looking through a keyhole.

[@michaelbell75]

Not when you are on a phone., which is how almost everyone consumes media these days.

[@tylerbenner]

Canon G1x mk iii has DP autofocus, lens stab, only 1080p 24, 30, 60 fps, no mic jack though. Great stills, video is pleasing for what it can do.

[@Fessoid]

14:27 The Sony Canon friendship was yhe best for me. Voightlender fine too. Others oversharp image quality like cheap smartphones. Also Batis looks as green as swamp.

[@WilliamTaylor-h4r]

I found the coolest trinket 30x40 HD jewelry magnifying glass. The guy holds it a good two feet away. So I got a couple phone cases to glue stuff too. Not all glue is the same. Even in China, their cheap glue is good for cubes because it has 1mm tolerance, but it peals off, but if you slide it, it's like 250lbs. The 988 Jansbond is the best if you find a deal.

[@ZackarySimmons]

I like it because I love 4:3 and want to shoot in 4:3 without cropping into the sensor, and if I need 16:9 I get way more room to reframe things or fix crooked shots

[@andrewcoates1]

thx mate. Still laughing. Gosh the change from one lens to another platform was pretty cool. How do you explain the improvement in the image when you upped the stop to 2.8 and improved the lighting?..... was there simply insufficient light even with the 1.4 aperture ....or.... what would have happened had you improved the light and left the aperture at 1.4.... (arrghhh now I am lost ) Enjoyed the show.

[@clipdump]

the toneh shirt cracks me up ahaha

[@Assmart]

Hello dear man, I was wondering about your opinion on video tripods. I take pictures and videos (mainly videos) I'm interested in taking a videos of surfers in the sea from the beach and would like to hear your opinion on the matter. I've never heard you talk about tripods so I guess you're not into that. Using sony a7iv with sigma 100-400mm 5-6.3f(I know what you think about this camera and lens😢) Great day

[@Assmart]

@silbay I didn't understand you.. are you telling me not to do it because the legs of the tripod will touch salt water? Because it's expensive? Are you serious?🤦 i want to do that you Piece of...

[@SoggyKatnip]

​@@silbayyou missed the part where he said from the beach, or did I miss the party where he said he'd be mounting it on a surfboard

[@gerben4875]

I have the panasonic S1 which i quite like. It reminds me of the nikon d700 which i also have. It is to bad Panasonic doenst have that many FF lenses yet. Hopefully Samyang will bring out some lenses (the have joined in july previous year but nothing has come out so far) Will tamron ever join? I do hope

[@AI3Dorinte]

This is the best image quality talking head video I've seen from you so far. Why do I like the sony more now... Anyways when it comes to 3D pop there's the 28-70 f2.8 Lumix S Pro but I still want both my kidneys... The sigma 50mm f1.2 has somewhat of a pop but it may just be the fact that it's very sharp in the center at 1.2 and there's a lot of bokeh, I am not sure about that one. Edit: you do know that you can adapt ef lenses to L mount and the auto focus is really good now right?

[@farshaxan]

any examples for ef lenses used on L mount?

[@AI3Dorinte]

@@farshaxan 50mm f1.8 ( focus is not that fast and very noisy but it works), 85mm f1.8 works very well. Didn't try any others but you can find videos with tests.

[@farshaxan]

Much appreciated, will check them out @@AI3Dorinte

[@Daniel-rj6rx]

What 3D pop lenses from Fuji X can you recommend besides the Zeiss Touit ones? (out of stock). The XF 33mm f1.4 LM WR looks decent, but I'm still exploring my options. For video and photos.

[@cameraconspiracies]

How many times have I answered that question in the Q&A's? Go watch older episodes.

[@Daniel-rj6rx]

​@@cameraconspiracies Been watching for only 2 months so I guess will hire a sweat shop kid to watch all your videos to get an answer. Thanks

[@HJN67]

The last clip, when talking about your face, looked the best (correct exposure). In the other clips the exposure on your face was too dark, but the extra light in the last clip, also killed the 3D pop in the background. It became flat. Maybe because the ekstra brightness killed the effect of your background lights. The mood was lost.

[@smokinhot1673]

I love that T-shirt!!!

[@rtbarker]

Using the words of The Angry Photographer, that 35mm ef is "tits."

[@gdsstudio974]

I just watched the turtle on the skateboard chasing the cat 😀

[@richardhuggett8249]

The TONEH of the Voigtlander made me feel ill.

[@LTPottenger]

Raisins are people too!

[@michaelbell75]

Why do you think you need a $6k setup to sit at a desk and talk? You can do it with an iPhone. So there's that....

[@MinimalWave1982]

Don't listen to this snob the RF 100-400 is a great lens for the R8 especially considering price and performance as well as size and weight! you will love it!

[@cameraconspiracies]

Better off with a kodak bridge cam.

[@ArmchairExpert76]

Not for wildlife though

[@TheStorytellingDad]

I’ve been thinking about getting a A7S3 for my kit (C-100, 6D mki, GoPro 7)for the slow motion, but was worried about the auto focus. How well do the EF lenses work on the Sony body in higher frame rates?

[@NathanBrownisawesome]

From what I've tried personally and researched EF glass doesn't autofocus in video unless you're using the signa adapter with sigma EF glass. The aperture and focal length info come across just fine though.

[@DanielSymphonies]

you actually don’t get more dynamic range filming in log. that’s a misunderstanding and myth that’s been spreading. the sensor always has the same dynamic range. filming in log does in some very specific circumstances use that dynamic range in a slightly better way, but then again in other circumstances it uses it in a worse way. the rule of thumb should be to never film in log, because it is never needed. unless your whole grading workflow is adapted to log footage, you can just film in standard. all the information is there, all the dynamic range. you can get the exact same results as log, just a different path there

[@cameraconspiracies]

Not true at all, or people would never use log lol.

[@DanielSymphonies]

you would think so. but as you know, people are people.

[@DanielSymphonies]

i mean, for the dji stuff normal mode is completely different from log. in normal they do all kinds of hdr, sharpening, contrasting and processing. but i mean on mirrorless. where filming in log simply applies a different gamma curve

[@knockeddownanotch]

3:51 you forgot to say, "nukes are fake."

[@_innerscape_]

5:55 some lighting expert? You mean... a P H O T O H G R A H P H E H R H ???? 'Cause that's what an expert in light manipulation is called XD

[@audioupgrades]

The picture looks nice and contrasty today. I think it's mostly because of the lighting setup. It always looks nicer with several ligh sources around the subject.

[@Kobrar44]

I know slow motion video isn't your thing, but you should really start selling those Toneh shirts!

[@moneyshift8190]

Sony RX10 mk4 is a beast. 🔥

[@DirectEnergySmirk]

Love the shirt

[@maurice-vincent-komischke]

OPEN GATE changed my LIFE! 🎥

[@thomasanderson5929]

Hey Kasey, can you recommend an M43 lens with 3D pop?

[@cameraconspiracies]

Leica anything.

[@thomasanderson5929]

@@cameraconspiracies Thank you! Will pickup the 20mm f/1.7 at least from Leica. Any thoughts on the Sigma 56mm f/1.4?

[@cameraconspiracies]

@@thomasanderson5929 That's not a Leica lens. Sigma has no pop.

[@pipari21]

Canon camera brought out the red parts of your skin. I think fixing the WB on Sony would be optimal solution for the color.

[@allencrider]

I'm happy with my Olympus Zuiko 75-300mm cheap lens. It hides the cheapness with great contrast. I use it with an em1 II for videos and my em5 III for hiking and stills. I use my em5 more than any other camera I have. Maybe someday those idiots at Om Systems will use their stacked sensor in an Om-5. Then they'll get some money from me.

[@StripedTailz]

8:40 horizontal not vertical no no, awww it's too laaaaaate shi- i still think the Zeiss 35mm is looking the best within 3d pop but the canon is a good contender, i still don't really see the 3d pop with Leica. But the Voigtlander is even with Zeiss, it has this really, sharp and clean image that although i do like the Zeiss more for how the colors look, it's just right in there with it.

[@laika25]

8:40 You mean horizontal, right?

[@ryanleethomas]

Open gate is also great for anamorphic coverage using scopes.

[@michaelbell75]

Open gate allows you to use the FULL sensor. You know, that thing you're paying all the money for? Why would you want to pay thousands of dollars and only use part of your sensor? It's a joke people ever fell for that in the first place. Also, there is no rolling shutter with open gate. Who WOULDN'T want to use their full sensor with no rolling shutter?

[@xavierg6724]

Where did you get that there is no rolling shutter with open gate? Theres actually worse sensor readouts with open gate

[@eduarddelamettrie7785]

How well does IBIS work with the adapter that still works because you haven't "up"graded the camera firmware?

[@cameraconspiracies]

I haven't tried it, but probably crap.

[@ledheavy26]

Pancakes and beef is the new chicken and waffles.

[@shang-hsienyang1284]

I love clinical lenses. I create 3D pop with good lighting.

[@loopba]

8:20 its Tonehs mom

[@jf_blanco]

What is Tonéh?

[@andresgonzalezcerda7635]

Tony Northrop’s addiction to bokeh…

[@nyrubin]

The shirt lmfaooooooooooo at this point it’s bullying 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@陆巍予]

I definitely need open gate for my anamorphic lenses

[@skyscraperfan]

I hate 16:9 though. I could crop it to 3:2 or 4:3, but open gate allows me to use more pixels instead of less.

[@viktordoszpot9599]

Hmm, I should buy a zeiss. And a sony camera also... But for me the zeiss is the winner.

[@javierensenat7392]

Hear me out. Open gate helps with aspect ratio on anamorphic lenses. You get way more height on the videos.

[@EDHBlvd]

But why is this video not filmed in OPEN GATE!?

[@Gorabis]

ah i like that shirt. imma get that shirt.

[@Gorabis]

but in white so you can't see the toneh

[@By_Rant_Or_Ruin]

I'll show them a huge extendable mirror-less.

[@DD23-1]

For a minute there I wanted the FX3 but Im soooo glad I kept my A7S3 which I honestly think is ALOT better in sooo many ways!!! A7S3 gang! Lol! >;))))

[@olsonspeed]

Vertical format... Just say NO!

[@DroneStories]

The truth about the open gate ("sad" is only for you) is that: ALL THE SENSOR is used, not like in 16 :9. If indeed there is also a 6k or 8k option, the "creator" has the option to REFRAME (into a 24p 4k timeline) WITHOUT ANY LOSS OF QUALITY. I note the date of the video. When and whenever the "beloved" of most youtubers, Sony, announces that it "has" camera with open gate, see what "anthems" we will see...

[@DennisKsilyov]

Shame! - You first need to define what a Gate is inside of a film camera, then define what open-gate means, start with the basics. 35mm cinema runs vertically in Academy 1.33 aspect 4x3 - (4 perforation) - 1.85 (almost 16:9) 3 perf, and 2.40 - 2 perf, all cinema cameras had an interchangeable gate - or if you wanted to use anamorphic lenses to shoot Scope 2.40 or 2.37 Panavision with higher amount of film resolution and less grain You'd opt for either 4x3 4 perf gate, or a wider gate - shooting with an Open Gate would just smear light on to the former and latter film strips if possible by the camera design. OpenGate in ARRI Alexa means exactly the ability to shoot 4x3 full sensor exposure for anamorphic lenses or to stabilize a shaky 16:9 shot. - An asthmatic mountain hiker who invented shoving motion picture film into a tiny camera sideways at 8 perforations creating Leica is responsible for all the stupidity of "Full Frame" and other abominations done in the name of all things Digital that are borrowed from the Analog photochemical universe. TV and Video and KZbin is not Film or Cinema, regardless of how many features manufacturers throw onto Digital SLR and Mirrorless photo cameras designed for Point and Shoot and Advanced Point and Shoot consumers. If you're putting 1/2 a million dollars in front of the lens in terms of actors, explosions and stunts, you need Opengate and RAW - If you're shooting video, just shoot 8-bit compressed, and control the lighting - heck shoot it in 60p/50p to give it that soap opera effect. 4k is not even needed. Let alone 6k-8k.

[@tptrsn]

"Canon Color Science" changes from model to model. The one on the R8 today seems to be a bit tooo magenta, and over-enhances the pinks in the skin. Overall I think I prefer the A7Siii colors, although when you put them side by side it does look a bit too green/yellow. Nothing matches the BMPCC OG, although that little crop Nikon you were messing with actually looked pretty good to me.

[@CybreSmee]

My wife watched a little of this video next to me on the couch, she said omfg you looked like a total weirdo. We're divorced now.

[@ivandj707]

Voigtlander so creamy 👍👍.

[@BartvanderHorst]

The action 3 has opengate, sort of... sorry. I like to use the full sensor, not for vertical video, vertical is crazy for lazy audience.

[@lordgodalming]

Voightlander is my favorite but I think Canon on Sony looked "best," whatever the hell that means.

[@RafalGendarz]

Sony colors 🤮

[@TheNewArtSchool]

Canon colours are so much better!

[@Methy_Watches]

X3000 FLAT EARTH 🌎

[@Jason1fromNYC]

Do a monkey strength video series to go with the book. Or is that what the vegetable freaks channel is about? Both the still overpriced Sony a7Siii and the goofy Canon R8 suck. The glass is what's up. Good comparison video. Haven't visited your channel in years. Nice to see you still cranking out the original content. I'm buying a Toney shirt, not for you but for Mr Tony Northwood. I recently fled both NYC and LA after decades in the movie business to Eastern Coastal Connecticut. Which makes Tony practically my neighbor. What should I go out and film around here? I've only got lots of film cameras and some old cell phones. Iphone 11 w/ bmcc overlay is dope enough for me. What's the perfect camera?!? All I wanted was the perfect camera!!!

[@JohnDrummondPhoto]

You need to go back and equalize the lighting for a fair comparison. I liked your last lighting setup the best. The Voitlander has great pop but your lighting looked like you shot inside a cave, compared to the last setup. That said, Canon lens on the Canon body rendered the best color. But you knew that.

[@noordstede6408]

And use davinci smart reframe

[@TimMer1981]

Five comments, of which three bots. Great going, KZbin.

[@AprilClayton]

I would live the Sony A7S3 sensor on a small DJI Pocket style gimbal with a 18 mm lens.

[@StripedTailz]

Would you like to review some older Konica or Minolta lenses for video and slow motion? I'm really interested in how they would look, compared to the Zeiss and Voigtlander lenses.

[@annonomowz4903]

You are wrong and it is pursed lips, pursed. Pursed.