The Scariest Question You Can Ask

[@JohnBevereTV]

Have you ever struggled with doubts or fears about your salvation? How did you overcome them?

[@Gloria-ht9sp]

Declaring the truth from the Bible helped me a lot

[@lukenath6983]

@@Gloria-ht9sp Same. It's something we as Christians need to do more often!

[@shaynehwhite]

Repenting and clinging to the precious promises of the Word of God.

[@TrueGaming140.48]

Simply surrendering the doubts to the Lord, the God of my salvation

[@Angie31646]

I am 48 I have been in church practically my whole life. My parents did not go to church but believed in God. I've been filled with so many different things Telling me what a Christian is I got to the point that I was confused about My walk with God, I have the biggest fear ,the most crippling fear that I will end up in hell. I cry a lot over this and I beg God not to send me to hell. And I don't want to be afraid anymore. I feel like I have suffered my whole life. Wondering whether I was really saved or not whether I was on the right path or not, this question has plagued me My whole wife, the fear is literally crippling.

[@susannorosco3763]

I sent this video to my husband yesterday and he watched it. Last night he had a dream. He was in church and looked outside, and the outside world was completely destroyed, except the church and the inside of the church where he was. He teared up telling me about his dream. I was so glad as I was worried about him recently. He’s been looking for comfort from the world, not understanding what the Bible says. He got the conviction he needed! Thank you so much for your teachings! You and your family are a blessing to everyone who has the ears to listen to your teachings! I am very convicted myself about changing my ways. Praise God and Jesus! ❤

[@JayJayRei]

Thanks for more clarity on this topic. In so many ways, you boldly went where some would never go before.

[@3dministry.]

Hello from Romania! Good message! God bless You! Amedeo Dima&Roxana Dima❤

[@paulnewkirk7351]

Not wanting to judge you personally since I don't know you. When the creator God put man on earth for his good pleasure yet the very first man willfully sinned, he didn't simply make a mistake, he deliberately did what God told him not to do and even gave Adam warning of the consequence of disobeying. God's love was evident in the warning given. The nature of God has many faucets, he is holy meaning he has no sin, he is loving, he is righteous meaning that he always does that which is right, and he is just. Now God being just means that he will reward or deliver just judgments for sin. Remember the warning given to Adam? It was death. Why would he choose to ignore the warning? Because he was selfish and thought that God would overlook the offense. In other words, he thought of himself as being a little bit more wise and compassionate than God. This is mans sin today. Surely God won't send me to hell since I'm not that bad. God wants man to obey and love him out of desire, deliberately. So he gave man free will. Now we just like Adam can choose. But we have already sinned and missed the mark of our creators design and desire. So according to the Bible, we all are under the same curse of death as Adam. He failed to see God in a proper manner. A sinless God cannot ignore sin. He is a righteous judge and will pass an honest verdict. Until men see themselves standing in front of a righteous judge answering for their sin and knowing that the decision will be fair, the desire will be, cannot someone else pay my sin debt and allow a pardon for me? Well that is exactly what God has done for you. He sent his eternal Son who has his fathers nature, to come and be born of a virgin so that he could represent both God to man and man to God. He came as us to us and for us. He was beaten and nailed to the cross and deliberately died and with his last breath calling out to God the father saying, forgive them for they know not what they do. Then after sacrificing himself for man, on the third day he arose, victorious over sin, death, and the grave. It was God saying that he accepted his Son's blood as payment for mans sin. The bible says that it is by faith that you are saved and not of works lest any man should boast. Faith? Faith that what Jesus did for you at calvary is sufficient to pay your sin debt completely. You know that you are a sinner and waiting on God's judgment, you also with a humbled heart realize that you deserve the decision that comes from a righteous judge which is eternal death and separation from God. Knowing that there are only 2 eternal places and you won't be with him in heaven, and that he has provided a savior, his on Son to take your eternal punishment, you call on God to forgive you of your sins and save you in Jesus name. God will honor his promise that whosoever calleth upon his name shall be saved. Now that you are a child of God's, work out your salvation, simply meaning, live like you have been bought and redeemed by God's Son.

[@marymorris6897]

Susan, I am happy for you and your husband, growing in faith together. It's the same with me and my husband. It isn't always easy! I am touched by what your husband saw.

[@martyisabeliever]

I believe you can loose "your salvation" and i pray you will, and enter into the Salvation Jesus has for you which is etenally secure.

[@hiswayforherchristforwomen]

As a kid I went to church with my mom. We believed in Jesus. Circumstances in our life led us to blame God, we stopped going to church and ultimately “walked away” even started getting into other practices. We also resented Christians. I was lost for about 7 years. A slave to alcohol and wanted to die. I yelled out to God, angrily to save me, I still blamed Him for my consequences from my own disobedience. But He started to peruse me. Finally I went back to church. I prayed with the people there, professed my faith again, and was baptized. God removed the obsession of alcohol and promiscuity. I no longer resented Him or christians and I started to read the Bible again and to learn about Him. I prayed for years for the rest of my family. I began to feel that they would never come back. But then one by one they all came back to the lord. My mom, two sisters and my aunt. Because we were His before, He came after us as His lost sheep. And He brought us back to Himself. We are not perfect still but His grace and sacrifice is perfect, and we are in the process of being sanctified by the Holy Spirit.

[@PeaceandfreedominYeshua]

Amen! God bless you child of God.❤

[@lightoftheworld11555]

what a beautiful testimony. Thank you for sharing how Gods been faithful to you through adversities.

[@fidelamoah9115]

Amen! I also had a similar experience. Saved, wandered off almost ten years and God restored me. But here's the thing. Not everyone experiences this. That doesn't mean they were never saved. It simply means "God has mercy on whom He wills". I was saved, but i know others who wandered off and died in their sin. We have to accept all off Scripture for what it is. That God will go to lengths to save His own. At the same time, there is a kairos moment for each person to return. Since no one knows when, it's best not to take His grace for granted and "work out your salvation with fear and trembling". Be blessed.

[@colonalklink14]

​@@fidelamoah9115There is no gospel without OSAS. You can fall away from the faith but never lose your salvation. Saving repentance is realizing that you are a sinner deserving of God's just punishment in Hell and turn (repent) from whatever you trusted in before, if indeed you trusted in anything; to trusting in the person and finished work of Christ alone for salvation.

[@foxecarpentress4964]

That is awesome!!! ❤❤❤ I too have been praying for a whole family to get sanctified for YEARS! Please pray for them….. thanks and God Bless! Stay strong, keep on reading The Word Everyday! We’re almost HOME! 👏 🎺 🕊️ 😇🤴😇 🕊️ 🎺 👏

[@cassadycampbellofficial]

Hebrews 6:4-6 warns of the danger of backsliding and rejecting Christ's sufficiency but does not teach that salvation can be lost. Genuine believers remain saved because salvation is based on Christ's finished work, not human effort. While backsliding can result in discipline, loss of fellowship, and loss of rewards, it does not nullify the eternal security of a believer. God's promise is unbreakable, and His grace is sufficient to keep His children secUre forever

[@dsen2283]

“For it is impossible to bring back to repentance those who were once enlightened-those who have experienced the good things of heaven and shared in the Holy Spirit,” Hebrews‬ ‭6‬:‭4‬ ‭ “and who then turn away from God. It is impossible to bring such people back to repentance; by rejecting the Son of God, they themselves are nailing him to the cross once again and holding him up to public shame.” Hebrews‬ ‭6‬:‭6‬ ‭ I don’t know how you read these verses and come to the conclusion that they are talking about backsliding. My life in Christ has been the story of the prodigal son and God the Father always welcome me back home with grace and mercy. And while I was out there acting stupid, I could clearly see His hands on certain situations and I know He was there watching, calling me back home. I will eventually “repent” and go back living for Christ. Hebrew 6:4-6 said it’s impossible to bring back to repentance someone who was indwell with the Holy Spirit and then rejected God the Son. A backslider doesn’t usually reject Jesus or denied His finishing work on the cross. There are KZbin channels where ex-believers who rejected Jesus are now preaching against the gospel and teaching others how to deconstruct their faith in Christ. There’s a big difference between these people and someone who falls back into sin for a moment or two.

[@AnonforGod777]

obviously, everyone sins everyday. every single person who pretends they are more holy than you sins everyday. Wed all not be saved and then there would be no purpose of Christ dying

[@originalmamagrizzly2478]

Amen!!

[@LifeasaLEOWife]

@@dsen2283 It seems to me that the author of Hebrews is pointing to someone who never knew Jesus, someone who is perhaps like Judas who experienced Jesus but never accepted Him or had a relationship with Him. They never had salvation; they simply pretended to know Him. If this person had received salvation, according to this verse, they could never repent & receive mercy & salvation from & through Jesus by grace through faith b/c there's nowhere else for them to turn b/c it's Jesus or nothing! He's the only Way, the only Truth, & the Only Life. His death was once for all people. This person was like the person on whom the seed of the Gospel fell on bad soil & they produced thorns & thistles, not fruit, though they received plenty of rain. He never had a transformed heart. The author makes it clear he's not talking about the recipients of the letter in v. 9-11. "De-constructors" were never believers as John said, " They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us," (1 John 2:19). Jesus says the same thing about Judas. John 6:64 "But there are some of you who do not believe." Judas played the part so well that no one except Jesus knew he didn't believe, thought he was with the other disciples for 3.5 years! They didn't even know it was him who would betray Jesus during the Last Supper. Some people have a head knowledge of Jesus but never get a heart knowledge. They never received Jesus, only believed (John 1:12), since that verse says you have to believe AND receive. You can't get a gift until you reach out & take it. Scripture says that even demons believe God is One & shudder (James 2:19). You also have several paragraphs in John 17(:6-26) where Jesus says that He lost none of those whom God had given Him except Judas, as was planned, & He makes a point to say not just the disciples of His time, but that He would lose none of those won to Christ from the disciples' time onward. He also prays that the Father will make us all one, so that the world may believe that the Father sent Him. V. 25-26, "O righteous Father, even though the world does not know you, I know you, & these know that you have sent me. I made known to them your name, & I will continue to make it known, that the love w/ which you have love me may be in them, & I in them." These are just a few scriptures that I thought I'd add here. Much love to my brothers/sisters in Christ!

[@mikedickison244]

Genuine. Key word.

[@RoydrickBedford]

“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.” ‭‭John‬ ‭10‬:‭27‬-‭29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[@nancy-margaretheyes2445]

Amen! The ones who carried on sinning “went out from us because they were not of us”.

[@PaulWilson-r7m]

One of the greatest things a believer should know is, they Have Eternal Security… and can NEVER be Lost…

[@demolishu1]

The 2 Peter verse says they escaped pollutions through the knowledge of Jesus. Never said they accepted Jesus. They had knowledge of Jesus but never knew him. They went back to the tangled of the world. They weren’t true believers. The heretics once claimed to know Christ.

[@conniehudson7803]

Exactly his point, "and they follow me". John is talking about people who did follow Jesus and then stopped. Those who continue to follow Jesus will have eternal life and will never perish. No man will pluck them out of the Father's hand. It is we ourselves who can stop following and leave the Father's hand.

[@nancy-margaretheyes2445]

@@conniehudson7803we were chosen by God - if we are truly saved we can never be lost. God is sovereign - we are not. This is about His choice.

[@bubblybernice4863]

Also, as Christians we are obligated to seek and tell truth no matter the cost. Thank you.

[@shavonneg3767]

Thank you for this teaching. This is a subject that has been discussed amongst my family and I have prayed for years asking God to reveal to me the truth and I was always lead to the scriptures you are using. This is confirmation for me, that God has answered my question. God bless you!

[@cynthiamain9820]

I agree! I have asked the same question. I think unconditional salvation is the greatest deception of Satan could use.

[@cassadycampbellofficial]

2 Peter 2:20-22 could describe either a backslidden believer or a false convert. If it refers to a believer, it warns of the severe consequences of falling back into sin, such as God's discipline and loss of rewards. However, if it describes false converts, it highlights the dangers of rejecting the gospel after experiencing its transformative power superficially. Either way, it does not teach a loss of salvation for true believers, as salvation is eternally secure in Christ

[@tonilynch7872]

Yet there are many other scriptures that indicate that disciples- believers- if you continue in sin- you choose death and not life. This one scripture is stating what others reinforce.

[@morethanasparrow633]

How about rev 3:5

[@lindasoulsby5997]

The Truth will set us free. I was saved 2 years ago with a very strong awakening from The Holy Spirit. Walking my dog one morning and the joy of The Lord filled me like something I had never experienced before. Since then I have not stopped talking about God and Jesus. I continue to walk and talk and pray and I even wake up singing songs of Praise in my head.

[@mickme8914]

Checking it out, if i could lose salvation, then my Christianity would be one of works. I would be working at keeping hold of it.

[@paulseverson2307]

no, you work at sanctification, not salvation. You literally choose to accept or reject God's FREE gift of salvation.

[@joellim2]

The state of continuous belief is salvation it is not an event it's a continuous so it's only logical to believe that when one stops believing he abandons the narrow way. This is why John 15 emphasis on abiding in christ once you gain comfort outside Christ you begin to resent, discredit even lose faith in Christ. You're attempting to look back while holding the Plough, stay there long enough you're lost always return/repent to abide in christ if you remain fallen you're lost.

[@charlesmutembei8062]

But is it possible to stop putting your faith in Jesus and start putting it somewhere else?

[@marisamartin3664]

He does require dlifence, faith, and working our salvation. If we ae serious, we do it without being threatened.

[@levridge6601]

It's as simple as that.. they think they are 'saving" themselves.. instead of God saving them for a later purpose.. its like if you save cup to put a sapling in it later to grow a plant. the cup isn't saving itself for that purpose, some Christians who are the cup think they are saving themselves for heaven..

[@BlancheNtrOy]

Grateful for John Bevere, his family and his dedication to biblical teaching and not shying away from “controversial” topics that are very rarely taught in churches! Praise the Lord!

[@IndianaJoe0321]

In the Holy Bible, look up words & phrases such as "abide," "stand fast," "persevere," "endure," "be faithful," "remain steadfast," "endure to the end," "continue," "hold fast," etc. When you do, you quickly see that OSAS is not biblical. However, one cannot "lose" salvation. Rather, one chooses to "forfeit" her/his salvation.

[@brsan9801]

Agreed, OSAS is not Biblical. I’ll add I want to be careful not to sound harsh and not loving. I comment against OSAS for what I think the same reasons others comment against it and that is a believer could become complacent or reluctant or better to say comfortable with living in sin and that act , we are told, (the act of living in sin as a believer) will bar you from an inheritance, the inheritance of the Kingdom of God.

[@danielnatzke6733]

It is Biblical. Every believer will be kept to the end, because of 1 Peter 1:5, John 6, and 1 Corinthians 1:8. Yet still, it is practically important to endure in the closer, more immediate scale of life as we strive against sin and cling to the Lord from week to week.

[@nadinepearson9523]

Even though one can " forfeit" their salvation, nonetheless...it is STILL A LOSS! Regardless of using the word "lose", to lose something is a LOSS!

[@GiftofGrace88]

You can't choose to "forfeit" your salvation. That is not biblical. You are obviously confused. If we believe in Christ, we know that we have eternal life right now! You don't earn salvation at the end of your physical life because you did whatever behavior or performance until the end. 1 John 5 10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

[@Wadusher]

@@GiftofGrace88 So who is Hebrews 6:4-6 referring to then?

[@RedLegPiper]

Losing your salvation brings my spirit anxiety, depression, doubt, and sadness. OSAS brings my spirit joy and peace. 100% Jesus. 0% self.

[@josephroman5429]

Don't stray from scripture and you won't have anxiety and depression... Repentance and sin no more... OSAS may bring you joy and peace, but you are mislead..

[@sierrarose6211]

​@josephroman5429 how is your sin free existence going, brother?

[@sierrarose6211]

"It is finished!" John 19:30

[@PaulWilson-r7m]

2 Corinthians 5:21… For He made Him, who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him… When God sees a believer in Christ, He sees them in Christ… When Christ died, they died, when He arose , they arose… When He ascended, they Ascended to be with Christ… at the right hand of God… Ephesians 1:19-23…. Of course we are still on earth, allowing God to work these things out in us…

[@adammartineer6593]

I fell in to depression I thought I lost my salvation and started to go to sexual sin but steal went to church hoping i can go back and told my pastor at the time he just prayed for me cause was addicted then I had a supernatural experience and got set free and lost the desire to my sexual sin thank you lord. This was I few years ago. Well before COVID

[@kevimc]

Praise GOD

[@evensteven164]

I have this same issue that you got set free from.

[@lular777]

Bless you. God loves you.

[@justinpepper4069]

@@evensteven164 ill pray for you

[@albertgerbel8472]

@@evensteven164fill your life with Jesus and you won’t have space for sin. The closer you are to God the further you’ll be from sin. Seak Him daily and you’ll be close to Him.

[@NormNewsome-qh6zs]

We are sealed until the day of redemption is what my Bible says

[@Ieffmacloud]

Exactly. The spirit is bought, the soul and body require work. If we think and do things we still get the fruit of it good or bad.... What a person sows they reap, saved or unsaved.

[@danniequesenberry9951]

But tells us other s

[@danniequesenberry9951]

But there are other scriptures also.....GODS WORD SAYS.........TAKE THE WHOLE WORD DIVIDING THE TRUTHS IN.........CHECK OUT THE LAST FOUR SCRIPTURES IN THE LAST BOOK IN THE BIBLE...........THE LAST FOUR SCRIPTURES IN THE LAST CHAPTER OF REVELATION THIS TALKING ABOUT TAKING YOUR NAME OUT OF THE LAMBS BOOK OF LIFE......THAT MEANS LOSING YOUR SALVATION.......THIS IS THE END OF GODS WORD......THE END OF THE HOLY BIBLE........

[@NormNewsome-qh6zs]

@@danniequesenberry9951 God will chastise his own and those not chastised are bastards and not of Him..if on sins and we all do occasionally God will chastise you. If one can live in sin you never was born again to start with. So I believe once saved always saved

[@waynereyos1297]

Agree, there's really no other way to interpret that it means plainly to be sealed with an unbreakable seal.

[@islandgrl54]

I have had one thing after another since 2015. The latest after the Cancer , were the 2 hurricanes . Wiped out most everything . I have a car ! And this podcast really answered my question , for awhile now . If I have the “ Holy Spirit” nudging , he’s still in me !! Thank you Jesus ! Also for the reminder , I’m never alone ! Hallelujah !

[@dimasrivera1589]

Im so glad we are speaking of this THANK GOD

[@WilliamsPinch]

So grateful for your study on this concept. I was a true believer, but I walked away from the faith and completely denied, not only the blood of our savior, but that we had been created by a loving God. By the grace of God, I was called back to the truth, and I have been warning Christians against unconditional security.

[@jesusislord9116]

I have a similar story , falling into sin by listening to the enemy , It seems that the palm of God is truly open nothing can separate us from God but constant willfull rejection A point that I almost was at and I feared the Lord but he showed me mercy and has made a way in my heart to live Holy and righteous and when I fall short to understand the grace of God in Christ not to abuse it

[@PeaceandfreedominYeshua]

Praise God!❤

[@ministerwarbear]

@@WilliamsPinch if it were not for the grace of Eternal Security and the faithfulness of God to His promises, how would you have come back to the faith? Did you come back on your own? Or did Jesus come and get you?

[@davidchupp4460]

@@WilliamsPinch you can’t repent twice to salvation. If you truly were saved and could have lost it it’s over.

[@Brandonprays316]

@@davidchupp4460What about the parable of the prodigal son?

[@DanielAbernathySr]

God is faithful above all else. He keeps His Promise no work can be added to the finished work on the cross of Jesus. Saved 💥

[@joshuagould8402]

It’s true. The Lord does keep His promises. He also has promises for those who choose to live in willful habitual sin. All throughout the epistles, it warns believers to not be deceived about walking in a lifestyle of sin and what the outcome of that entails. Hebrews 10 speaks of frustrating the Spirit of Grace and that the only thing that ppl who once believed but kept deliberately sinning can expect “judgement, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries”. Think about Matt. 7 Jesus said not everyone who says Lord, Lord will make it. People who have prophesied, cast out demons, and done mighty works all in the name of Jesus will be told “depart from me, you workers of iniquity.” Our works can’t get us saved. But they do reveal the true state of our heart. I thank God He rescued me from once saved always saved. I was literally going to hell and didn’t know it.

[@DanielAbernathySr]

@@joshuagould8402 I'm saved filled with the Holy Spirit . Go tell your Samson friends this teaching oh but don't read Hebrews because he's a hero of the Faith.

[@donaldwortham2409]

​@@DanielAbernathySrSamson never was saved he lost the Sprit unlike David who was told his mercy would never depart. Samson was brought low so he would swallow his self righteous his strength. And therefore he was justified by faith

[@DanielAbernathySr]

@@donaldwortham2409 ok 👍🏾 Grace Wins Samson is in heaven 💯

[@DanielAbernathySr]

@@donaldwortham2409 show one scripture that specifically says Samson wasn't saved . Watch your words and adding to the true word of God .

[@coreykeplinger3391]

I'm just reading the Scripture too. I give them Eternal life and they shall never perish.

[@KevinR820]

Think about what you’re saying. Are you claiming that we completely lose our free will after becoming saved? Because that would be a requirement for the position you hold. Think about that deeply.

[@coreykeplinger3391]

@KevinR820 Actually that is the very prerequisite for salvation. Your will not mine. Slave of sin to Slave of righteousness.

[@grizz4489]

Yes indeed. Whoever believes in Jesus has everlasting life and will never perish !!!

[@aaronbruce007]

@@KevinR820 John 10:25-30 New King James Version 25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. 26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, [a]as I said to you. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.” No one includes you man. Either you believe Jesus or you don’t.

[@michaellee2920]

this is true saved all was

[@patriciaflores8854]

The Lord just asked me to reread the book of Hebrews all over again and I missed this part. I finally understood that yes you can lose your salvation. This video is like the confirmation. I legit read it just a few days ago. THANK YOU Father God for the grace and mercy to still give me another chance to fully understand the truth in Christ. I appreciate your teachings.

[@gaylejackson9288]

So grateful we won’t have disagreements when we go…GOD IS RIGHT.

[@aleighz1]

I absolutely LOVE hearing Arden’s thoughts and perspective.

[@eternallifenothell4942]

Excellent teaching from *John Bevere and son, Arden!* I met Bro. John when he came to speak at a church called Victory just outside of Bham. AL between year 2002 or 2003. I was just starting out in Ministry myself and was SO BLESSED as he taught so gracefully and truthfully the Word of God. The whole atmosphere seemed to be filled with *JOY!* _Might I add, every single thing taught here is what I teach! Bro. John gave even more scriptures_ _to validate this teaching; Arden was extremely good at pointing out the scriptures and things_ _people honestly say when they have been taught differently, for whatever the reason._ *_LOVE TO LISA AND THE ENTIRE BEVERE FAMILY!_*

[@cassadycampbellofficial]

If salvation could be lost, it would mean it depends on human actions rather than the finished work of Christ. The Bible teaches that salvation is entirely the work of God, accomplished through Jesus perfect sacrifice, and is kept by His power, not ours. Believers can rest in the assurance that their salvation is secure, not because of what they do, but because of what Christ has already done. Salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone-a gift that cannot be earned or lost.

[@kuli-x5s]

Those that walk in the flesh are not born of the spirit and will not inherit the kingdom of God.

[@PaulWilson-r7m]

@@kuli-x5sSalvation is a free gift from God… Ephesians 2:8,9. Romans 6:23… Eternal Life… Inheritance is something you get after you are saved… Rewards, position in Heaven…

[@kuli-x5s]

@PaulWilson-r7m salvation is a free gift,but the bible also says,Work out your salvation with fear & trembling, the bible is also very clear that we will be judged by our works. Those who endure till the end shall be saved,grace is not a license to sin,but enables u to live a holy life.

[@PaulWilson-r7m]

@@kuli-x5sThe full redemption on Christ , He did on the Cross , Buried and Rose again the 3rd Day… We believe it , God receives us forever… Jesus did ALL the Work of Salvation… and we are born of the spirit… It’s the same life as God’s,’Eternal’. We can never be lost, as God cannot be lost… As we grow in grace and seek God’s will in our lives, we mature as the life of Christ grows in us… One day God will take us to be with Him Forever…

[@McChurch7]

You are of the devil. We are in His Spirit. You keep talking about you. I died. I no longer live but it is Christ who lives in me. We are powered by His Spirit. Our boast is in Him. Stop lying to people.

[@BertoRambo]

From what i learned, let's say a dad gives a gift to a child, and that child accepts that gift, but later, that child would leave that gift behind broken and abandoned. We have the option to keep our gift or even abandon it. Good point on the free will and also the "erase" part. That really opened up my eyes and fed me spiritually. Thank you, Beveres, and thank you, Lord, for this beautiful family.

[@aaronbruce007]

If you’re saved, why would you want to abandon your gift? What makes you think that it was you that started the process in the first place. God leaves the 99 and seeks the 1 lost sheep. What makes you think he stops? If you have eternal life, how could you give it up ? How was it ever eternal life ? It wasn’t eternal life if you can give it back. Ephesians 1:13-14 New King James Version 13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who[a] is the [b]guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory. Philippians 1:6 New King James Version 6 being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ; He’s gonna finish what He started.

[@SammyEtienneJacobs-ky5ok]

Herbrews 10:26 You can through it back at God and then the Bible is clear on what your future will be.

[@robindonnelly1944]

Thank you for speaking His Truth in love. This teaching helped me tremendously to better understand 1 John 5:16-17. If people stay to the end of this podcast, you reaffirm the difference between one who is eternally lost and one who still has hope. Lord, I pray you give them ears to hear. 🧡

[@donnazucchetti2367]

Thank you so much Pastor Bevere, I have been a Christian for many years. I question this question myself. Thank you, thank you thank you. I appreciate you, Lisa and your family in all you offer to the world. Blessings

[@Hcamsd]

God sent me a dream showing me a mass of millions of people online and told me they didn’t have assurance of salvation. Once they received the word they all lit up and became full of joy and it spread like a fire 🔥 of celebration

[@Hcamsd]

It changed my life. He also showed me the word “Acts” and “Galatians”

[@alicesamuel4380]

I'm so glad to hear this topic. I agree with you. Philippians 2:12 tells us to work out our salvation with fear and trembling...

[@totalaveragegamer1126]

Read the next verse

[@Ravens4L1fe]

I'm not trying to complain, but you guys need to post more often! I can't get enough of your preaching between John and Arden! You two are speaking directly to me ever since I found your channel a couple of weeks ago. I can't get enough! Please post more often 😁

[@trentonramey7009]

I've never seen this explained so well. Thank you for your obedience.

[@glenna.450]

Did anyone ever read this verse from the New Testament? They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1 John 2:19 It says, "no doubt."

[@trayevans6004]

Sin is not always in the form of aggressive, defiant rebellion. Look at Hebrew 2:1. We must also guard against passive negligence of Christian living. We must commune with our Lord daily.

[@CosmoBee7]

Was pondering these Scriptures in this podcast recently. I so appreciate you addressing them head on. John, I have an old Christmas card with a photo of your family in my Bible. My mom, now deceased, found the picture and exclaimed, "Who are these people? What a beautiful family!" I think of her saying that every time I see it in my Bible. 💜

[@jareya]

Lovely, balanced and Scripture-based teaching. God will never leave us but we must stay with Him. Thank you and God bless you Beveres.

[@phillipkimbro7807]

AMEN praise the lord Jesus for that healthy holy loving fear! It keeps me on the narrow path, I never want to be apart from Jesus ever again. I was the 1 out of 99 . Thank you Jesus for saving me and redeeming me!!

[@rizajoybojadores-cuison350]

Thank you for being courageous always Pastor on speaking the word of God.

[@7ch1no9deliverancedisciple6]

Amen Truly glad you explained this topic… that’s definitely how you keep a healthy fear of the Lord. I completely agree things that shouldn’t be hard to talk about the body sometimes finds ways to make it hard to talk about… I’ve learned a lot from you and your ministry i am also a pastor… Love your heart and thankful God has anointed you to lead and teach many 🙏

[@christylewis3485]

I’ve struggled with this for years. And finally settled on, a confession of Christ is far different from a repentant, committed, abiding follower of Christ. 🤷🏻‍♀️ But so true what John said, “this has helped me walk in a healthier biblical fear of the Lord and holiness!” I definitely want that!🙌🏼

[@grizz4489]

You didn't even mention believing in Jesus for eternal life.

[@miraflorjomuad5178]

Once saved, saved forever. This is perfectly biblical.

[@theodoreritola7641]

JESUS CHRIST NEVER LIES AND NEVER DID IN JOHN CH 3 VERSE 16

[@user-hv7ec1gq3m]

grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption

[@Sashacita]

I was struggling with this EXACT thought/question right before I noticed the premiere to this earlier. This really helped me 🙏🏼

[@johntrevett2944]

These men are peddling a false gospel. Don't be decieved little Children. Rest in the fact that God's word says if you are saved, God will keep you eternally secure by His power and promise. Remember God always finishes what HE starts and that those that are justified are guaranteed glorification (Romans 8:30). These false teachers certainly were never born again; the description which we have of them is the proof of it. The last verse of this chapter gives the conclusive evidence. Believers, true Christians, are never compared to dogs or swine; they are the sheep of His flock. A sheep cannot be transformed into a dog or a swine, nor will a sheep do what a dog or a swine does. They were therefore never the true children of God. They had escaped the outward pollutions of the world, which is a different thing from the escape of the corruption which is in the world by lust; the latter stands for the inward deliverance by the new birth, the former for an outward reformation which had taken place when they professed the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, when for a time forsaking their evil ways so that they escaped the pollutions. But not having a new nature they became entangled therein and overcome, so that it was worse with them than in the beginning, before they had made a profession. They had known the way of righteousness as made known in the gospel of Christ, but the life which is offered in that way of righteousness, with the fruits of righteousness which follow, they had never accepted by a living faith. And this seems to be the case with the vast majority of the false teachers of today, the destructive critics, and those who deny the deity of our Lord. They were never born again; they never had a true experience of real salvation, hence they are but natural men, not having the Spirit

[@bobbishortt1665]

1john says anyone who walks away was never really of us

[@Drooblemeister]

I agree, I think this reconciles other verses where Jesus says “My sheep here my voice and they follow me, I give them eternal life and they will never perish, no one can snatch them out of my hands!” No one doubts someone can walk away, I think some of us would doubt if they ever were truly born-again!

[@DavidSpillman-u8d]

Anyone, or specifically false teachers/ apostles?

[@ddff5242]

That verse is specifically talking about the antichrist. Not the soft hearted believer who chooses to abandon the faith. A common verse taken out of context to support osas.

[@1armenn]

just because 1John says that, doesn't negate the fact that someone could once really believe, and then fall away. 1John just describes a situation where potentially: the people they were walking with was just lying about their faith on purpose, or they were believing once and fell. if you agree with the first part, that doesn't negate everywhere else that someone cant be truly saved at one point, and then fall away. Also, no one can snatch them ouit of my hands? doesn't negate the fact that you can walk out of his hand with habitual sin lifestyle.

[@commodore428]

@@1armenn So you're implying that by "walking" out of His hand, Satan can snatch you away with temptation?

[@gloriabush9499]

I have been battling this very question for a few months now. And asked the Lord for the truth of it. Then i saw this today. I'm so glad Pastor you did do this podcast. God Bless

[@davidchupp4460]

It’s false. Once justified always justified. Hebrews 6 is clear. Only ONE REPENTANCE to salvation.

[@Nicholas-iu7bd]

His teaching is wrong…. not the first time I have heard him teach on something that was wrong.

[@darthjedi99]

don't believe this false teacher believe Jesus who says we have eternal life.

[@Jonathanhdz16]

⁠@@darthjedi99no one is denying eternal life.

[@foxecarpentress4964]

@@davidchupp4460 You’re wrong. I am an NDE Hell survivor and believe me, it’s not enough to just believe in Jesus, we must then get Sanctified, working out our salvation with fear and trembling, after we accept salvation initially. When people don’t do this, they return to their own vomit like dogs again, repeating the same old sins and that friend, is not Holiness. We are called to be Holy as He is Holy.

[@thirdplace3973]

Eternal security is a Person not a doctrine.

[@ElaineHall-cb8ci]

Thank you so much for discussing this subject. It is very important that christians understand the importance of living a clean life before the Lord. God bless your podcast.

[@royclark6564]

The understanding of the difference between my "soul" and "Spirit" and the revelation of the finished work of Calvary to not only allow me to receive a new nature but to sever me...by faith truly sever me from the old .....This enabled me to tap in to the power I needed to stand....... I do know that as believers we have a choice but if a believer Identifies as being both a sinner and a saint at the same time it short circuits the power available.....

[@danielle1095]

Thank u for this podcast , I’ve been struggling with this for years . Thank u for explaining this !

[@mateakostevski5216]

Because, if we deliberately sin after we have learned the truth, then there is no longer a sacrifice for sin, but only a terrible anticipation of the Judgment and the fierceness of the fire that will consume God's opponents. Hebrews 10.26-27

[@joshuahhartford]

Philippians 1:6 - “Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ.”

[@PEACE2U-ALL]

Having begun in the Spirit, are you now perfected by the law? -Galatians

[@McChurch7]

You don't understand the Law. Jesus flies higher. You don't understand the Spirit because it probably hasn't hit you yet. We overcome through His miraculous Spirit. The Law is tassels, food laws, circumcision, Sabbath's, feasts, and washing cups.

[@PEACE2U-ALL]

@ the Law is fulfilled and no longer the standard for salvation. Jesus is the standard, since He fulfilled it. I quoted Galatians. You should read the book and see what Paul has to say about the Law, or are you more knowledgeable about it than he?

[@kachymuzik]

All I can say is, "Lord, thank you for JB". I am super enriched by your insight into scripture.

[@ShutteR-ShortS]

2 Peter 2:21 This passage is not about Christians but is part of a broader section in 2 Peter 2 where the apostle Peter warns against false teachers and their destructive influence. These individuals once had some knowledge of "the way of righteousness" (the gospel and the teachings of Christ), but they deliberately turned away from it, returning to sinful behavior.

[@joyceburns2613]

Question, then why was he addressing "the church?"

[@clarkemcclymont2879]

@@joyceburns2613because false teachers are having influence over the believers in the church.

[@truthseeker502]

​@joyceburns2613 to warn the church that there would be false (unsaved) teachers infiltrating deceiving, promoting false doctrine, taking their money under false pretence etc so beware. As in: Ephesians 4:14 KJV That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; Stick with the kjv to get a clearer understanding. If you believe you can lose your salvation, then you do not believe that God has given us eternal life but conditional life. You are calling God a liar. 1 John 5:10-13 KJV He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. [11] And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. [12] He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. [13] These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

[@kevimc]

amen this a teaching on false Prophets and false teachings, these people need Bible's with chapter headings, to explain what the teaching is on , not just taking a few verses and creating a false doctrine, they fit into this category, not dividing the word of truth

[@ShutteR-ShortS]

@@kevimc Well said

[@brokennutsgarage]

I remember many years ago, when Driven by Eternity came out and you spoke on this same subject, and brother truth from that powerful teaching still resonates in my soul, Fear of the Lord. Thank you Bevere family for being so bold!!! With Love your brother in Christ David🙏

[@carolynkinney2133]

The Lord showed this to me about 1973. Never discussed it much because it really Made people angry! So thankful someone who is known and loved by many speaks the truth!!♥️🌹🎁

[@SaloméSonwane]

Thankyou for discussing sound doctrine. I felt the same way about Salvation after reading the gospels by myself and under the Holy Spirit’s guidance. “Those who endure till the end will be saved” Jesus repeatedly said this and it was the bottomline for me. Thankyou for your obedience to the Lord❤

[@Alaskarealestatelady]

Yes Same!!

[@TheGreatAwakening3]

This question is easy to answer. If you can lose your salvation, you never had it to begin with.

[@ScentsSavant]

this is a very judgmental mindset. You need to revaluate that statement. the Vibke is clear that we should be 100% sure of our salvation and that we should also strive to be Holy and not depart from the relationship with God. Because we can absolutely leave the relationship if we choose. We are not forced into belonging on Christ… So maybe there truth to both sides. Furthermore we are also told not to judge another persons salvation. You should not judge another’s salvation

[@TheGreatAwakening3]

@ScentsSavant / I’m not qualified to judge anyone. Only Jesus Christ is. There is nothing judgmental about this statement. If you really ponder what I’m saying, it makes perfect sense. A person who has obtained salvation has the Holy Spirit working within them. Many “Christians” will unfortunately be surprised one day when they meet the Lord and are told, “Depart from me, for I never knew you.” Why will they be surprised? Because they think because they proclaimed Jesus as their savior that their works should qualify them for Heaven. Works do not mean anything, for our works are like filthy rags. If you’re saved, you will still sin. But the sins should promote *conviction* to confession and to repentance. That is, promotion of a change of mind in *how* you view sin. Unfortunately, many churches are teaching a “once saved, always saved” grace message and this is simply *not true.* It’s leading so many people straight to hell. In fact, we are warned about this all THROUGHOUT the Bible, so it makes me a little perturbed in knowing so many have been deceived. Our Holy Father knows our hearts and it’s from our *heart* that we unite ourselves either with God, or with Satan. I hope this makes more sense. No judgement intended, my friend 🕊️ Blessings 🙏

[@ScentsSavant]

@ I agree with everything you said sister expect for the beginning… We all get so involved with OSAS true or but that we end up judging. and we shouldn’t say that someone does or doesn’t have salvation either way because that is us judging their salvation correct? We can judge fruit not salvation

[@TheGreatAwakening3]

@ScentsSavant / Yes, you are right ♥️ It is nobody’s position to state whether or not someone has obtained salvation. However, it *is* our right as Christian’s to _judge righteously._ If we see a fellow Christian that is practicing homosexuality, can we really proclaim them to be a Christian? No. We would need to warn them because if we let them go on thinking God thinks what they’re doing is okay when we know it’s not, then their blood could be on our hands. They would not have earned salvation because had they earned salvation, they would not engage in one of the sins that God despises. Same goes for fornication, drunkenness, lying, stealing, pride, anger, lust, etc. If I am saved, I should feel conviction in my heart to confess my sin and ask that the Lord grant me a repenting heart to sin no more. We live within the age of grace, but that’s not to mean that we’re covered without recognizing our sin and turning to the Holy Spirit to help us to overcome it. Sometimes it doesn’t happen overnight, but God, through his Holy Spirit, will work miracles in the lives of those that truly want to turn from sin. We can’t be so afraid of judging someone that we provide a watered down message, thus not honoring God’s righteous truth. I really appreciate you responding and sharing your thoughts because it engages conversation on such an important issue that the enemy has projected so much confusion towards. God Bless You and Merry Christmas ✝️

[@ScentsSavant]

@ you definitely hit the realm and right sprit and the e should absolutely warn others of the impending separation….Yea what your addressing is the problem i have with the modern day alter call. It’s like come get your ticket to heaven and now you’re good to go. Do whatever you want instead of live your life for Christ. And just like you said we will have sin that we have to allow God to cut away from us. I love your heart sister. I could listen to this all day. You gut the real thing

[@jenh8530]

I hold tight to this verse because I agree with scripture and you pastor Bevere “Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” ‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2‬:‭12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[@marialennox6834]

The parable of the sower . Some plants struggle. Especially if you don't water them regularly. That seems to the reason why Christians seem to be struggling with their walk. The garden isn't constantly attended to.

[@terryterry8647]

I am so glad you decided to do this episode. I needed to hear this. I was raised in the belief that ”once saved always saved” and for the first time, through your reading of scripture, I understand the TRUTH. This is something that needs to be preached from the mountain tops. I have always struggled with this. This teaching really underlines the importance of living in prayer and the word. Thank you again❤

[@davidchupp4460]

It’s actually false.

[@johntrevett2944]

You were raised correctly. These men are peddling a false gospel. Don't be decieved little Children. Rest in the fact that God's word says if you are saved, God will keep you eternally secure by His power and promise. Remember God always finishes what HE starts and that those that are justified are guaranteed glorification (Romans 8:30). These false teachers certainly were never born again; the description which we have of them is the proof of it. The last verse of this chapter gives the conclusive evidence. Believers, true Christians, are never compared to dogs or swine; they are the sheep of His flock. A sheep cannot be transformed into a dog or a swine, nor will a sheep do what a dog or a swine does. They were therefore never the true children of God. They had escaped the outward pollutions of the world, which is a different thing from the escape of the corruption which is in the world by lust; the latter stands for the inward deliverance by the new birth, the former for an outward reformation which had taken place when they professed the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, when for a time forsaking their evil ways so that they escaped the pollutions. But not having a new nature they became entangled therein and overcome, so that it was worse with them than in the beginning, before they had made a profession. They had known the way of righteousness as made known in the gospel of Christ, but the life which is offered in that way of righteousness, with the fruits of righteousness which follow, they had never accepted by a living faith. And this seems to be the case with the vast majority of the false teachers of today, the destructive critics, and those who deny the deity of our Lord. They were never born again; they never had a true experience of real salvation, hence they are but natural men, not having the Spirit

[@davidchupp4460]

He who drinks will NEVER THIRST. Never means NEVER.

[@MegaC3600]

And if you fill your mouth yet spit it out? Or drink the water and then force yourself to vomit?

[@Darthrocker06]

@@MegaC3600 LOL what? im reading these comments and people keep coming up with silly examples like this

[@FrankAndSenseDSM]

Dude. We just became best friends!!

[@unclemaverick3420]

Yes. As long as you STAY in Christ. Don't turn away and fall into the slavery of sin. And don't play God for a fool

[@FrankAndSenseDSM]

@@unclemaverick3420 How does one “stay” in Christ?

[@kimtidwell4263]

Thank you John for teaching this. I agree with what you've said and I've seen the same thing when I study the Word.

[@judyvanschalkwyk6504]

Never apologise for speaking the truth, John. People need strong leaders. Don't fear man.

[@thadsteel4300]

Amen!

[@likaangel8302]

Amen!!

[@wildforgod7236]

Amen

[@theodoreritola7641]

IF YOU DONT BELIVE OSAS HOW DOES A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN EVER BECOME UN BORN AGAIN ? PLEASE SHARE

[@Smallgard]

Go research the conditional, contingent word "if". Find out what it means. Find out how many times its found in the New Testament. Pretty simple.​@@theodoreritola7641

[@JoseVargas-bj1wd]

The message in this podcast can benefit many and lead us to true freedom.

[@MarieRee77]

This is an EXCELLENT discussion and teaching on this subject. Thank you so much!

[@IFBBJacked]

This message is spot-on. I love the part of the message where it talks about where people use the example where God says He'll never leave you nor forsake you. All of the people who go and visit Hell and meet Jesus in their near-death experiences have said when you wind up in Hell, you inherently know it's because you sent yourself there. You chose to go there and it was not God that sent you there. No one is blaming God for sending them there because you inherently know in your spirit hardwired that you sent yourself there by sinning and that the price and cost of that sin is eternal damnation. Even those who were not raised in the church who were never taught about any of this are in Hell knowing that they sent themselves there. This is according to an unbelievable amount of testimonies of near-death experience survivors who have come back and shared this.

[@Etta319]

I started a Bible Study Group recently and will be discussing this OSAS theory, which is a trick of the enemy and will sadly get many Believers caught up. I thank you both for this great message, which is The Word of God. God Bless you both. You are doing the right thing.

[@theodoreritola7641]

REALY A TRICK OF THE ENEMY ,ANSWER ME PLEASE So you have to belive a sinner that has been REDEEMED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRISTS OWN BLOOD CAN BE UN REDEEMED BY HIS BLOOD ? TELL EVERY ONE HOW THATS POSSIBLE ? DOES JESUS CHRIST KNOW THIS ? YOU MAY WAT TO LET HIM KNOW LOL , I HAVE BEEN SAVED scence 1983, I know im HIS ,, why dont you wake up spiritualy and trust Jesus Christ like i do ? I TELL YOU THIS IN LOVE SATAN HAS YOU SPIRITUALY BLINDED BECAUSE ALL SINNERS ARE SAVED AND HIS FOREVER JOHN CHAPTER 3 VERSE 16 THEL IFE STYLE DOES NOT SAVE THE SINNER ,THE TRUST IN THE BLOOD AND THE CROSS OF JESUS CHRIST DOES THOUGH

[@Smallgard]

Amen.

[@722marine]

Asking can you lose your salvation is like asking can you be unborn.

[@EugeneHolley-rc6ry]

Amen, he that hears my word, and believes on him that sent me, has everlasting life, and shall NOT come into condemnation, but IS passed from death unto life. Just as Nicodemus said we cannot go back into our mother womb, we will be the son or daughter of our earthly parents until we die, and we will be sealed with the holy Spirit of promise until the day of redemption, or when we receive our glorification.

[@kylviivarsson64]

Matt.7 : 21 - 24

[@EugeneHolley-rc6ry]

@@kylviivarsson64 It is not talking about believers, it says they were relying on their wonderful works, not on what Christ had done for them, he says he never "at no time" knew them, they were not saved and then lost salvation.

[@langw2461]

@@kylviivarsson64 nice cherry picking. You mind explaining after cherry picking a verse out of its context :D?

[@nardusdutoit3606]

I am so glad for this podcast. This is what I also believe. It is possible to lose your salvation.

[@mutabazimoses5542]

Thanks John Bevere and Arden for your boldness to teach God's word.

[@thangleduc3612]

God bless You - John Bevere. Amen.

[@thelearner7554]

Read Ezekiel 33 vs10-20. And if there's a once saved, always saved, then how is there a great fallen away?

[@CJHoda]

It’s the biggest trick the devil has ever played on the church, people who believe in once saved always saved are deceived

[@McChurch7]

Martin Luther brought it out and it's still strong 500 years later.

[@lizgray1211]

Thank you John for this teaching. My family and I have been so convicted about these scriptures, many of which we have memorised. However, even seemingly solid Bible teachers all seem to have this idea that once saved, always saved. Thank you for stepping out and saying this so scripturally!! May God bring many blessings to you and your family for your faithfulness. ❤

[@johnh2995]

how do you address God's sovereignty over salvation regarding this topic? if someone can lose their salvation then salvation is dependent on the person rather than God's sovereign act of grace/mercy. please address if possible, thank you!

[@scottyoung739]

Thank you John and Arden For tackling the hard subjects. I 100% agree, the scriptures are clear. And as long as my heart is toward God I can never be snatched out of his hand, but I do have a free will and I could choose to walk away, my father is all about free will.

[@laurenegruett4443]

If our free will chooses otherwise, we have condemned ourselves not God.

[@moniquessaved777]

The way your channel explains the Bible makes so much sense to me and I’ve been confused for so long until now. Thank you so much for explaining this in a way that we can understand and not live in fear. Thank you thank you 🙏 so so much!!

[@ajbridges275]

Thank you for proclaiming Truth! I was raised in the unconditional eternal security doctrine and because of that lie I went down a path of drug use, believing I was still saved, from age 15 - 25. However, I was truly born again and set free after attending an Assemblies of God church and understanding that I was lost. However even when I was young, the doctrine of OSAS did not feel right because I read too many Scriptures that taught otherwise. Again: thank you for reaching and preaching the Truth on this matter.

[@edbaker7490]

Exactly, osas is maybe the most dangerous false doctrine it gives people a subconscious license to sin. I found another channel 'follow the lamb today' that spoke out against osas if you are interested.

[@Nick-c9k7c]

A father to his son " here's a free gift a new car, you can't earn it it's a free gift, you just have to keep making the payments on it as long as you live".

[@bibiliyayeraijambo]

A father and a son , Father: here’s is a free gift a car, you can’t earn in it’s a free gift! Son: take the car 🚘 🔥 and set it on fire Conclusion: that’s not a son

[@kmesser66]

Look up Hebrews 6:4-6 it is so clear on this subject. He is talking about Christians.

[@theodoreritola7641]

LOOK UP JOHN CH 3 VERSE 16 AND ,THEN READ WHAT HAPPENS IN JOHN CH 3 VERSE 18 IF THEY DO NOT BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST OSAS IS THE GOSPEL

[@PaulWilson-r7m]

Paul is writing to Hebrew Christians. See verse 9, “ But , beloved , we are confident of better things concerning you, yes, and things that accompany salvation, though we speak in this manner… This is who the Hebrew letter is to… The true Hebrew(Jews), who had accepted Christ, as their Messiah and Saviour… He is writing about the other Hebrew Christians, hadn’t accepted Christ… In verses 4-6… These Hebrews, had seen the mighty power of the Holy Spirit in action… The 120 Disciples and others, including Jesus’s Mother Mary, His brothers.., all speaking in tongues… They observed mighty miracles, and, felt this powerful presence… 3000 people got saved that day, but many 1000’s didn’t… This is where these in Hebrews 6:4-6, come in… they had seen these wonders, but didn’t accept these things that went against their Jewish beliefs… These Hebrews had been in the crowd that, crucified Jesus in the first place… Now they we’re crucifying Him again, by rejecting the disciples messages… These were never saved… But we see the genuine Hebrew saints in verse 9, who the letter was sent… Verse 4-6, is nothing to do with Gentile believers… the letter is Hebraic, albeit, Christian in the Body of Christ…

[@kelleykdavisify]

As a believer, I have used the doctrine of OSAS to continue to dabble in sin. Sin enslaves. We are not saved by nor kept by works, or having our good deeds outweigh the bad. But if you continue in sin, eventually you won't care and then It is too late.

[@foxecarpentress4964]

Your right so many using OSAS as an excuse to do sin/lawlessness/immorality. No we are not saved by our works, initially, done in self righteousness. Read on in Ephesians! He has created us too so good works, He prepared for us, that we should (should walk in them, but many do not, still choosing to walk self centered,) walk in them, with HIM SHOWING US, our SERVICE on His Earth. We will be judged and rewarded according to our deeds, see Revelation.

[@stevew1343]

how can poeple who has been saved loving doing sin? i disagree how can someone who has been saved by grace can do sin again and feel comfortable ? no, their spirit has been raised by God rejecting them to do sin, but they still can fall doing sin unintentionally. it is different with poeple in old testament. God 's spirit did not live in them. but the ones who have received Christ not the same because the spirit of God living in us.

[@daveiba3953]

@@kelleykdavisify What does OSAS have to do with your thinking you can be saved and sin all you want which I have never heard anyone teach? If you pulled that from OSAS that’s on you! OSAS is clearly illustrated in 1 Cor 5 if you habitual sin you will be destroyed but still be saved “It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even named among the Gentiles-that a man has his father’s wife!” “deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.”

[@AlexisSustento]

@@stevew1343Read the book of revelation about the seven last churches. Scriptures are written for believers not for unbelievers.

[@daveiba3953]

@@kelleykdavisify Paul addresses those who look for a license to sin in Romans 6: 15-16 “What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness?” ‭‭

[@babyfaze2322]

Ouch that's tough but this conversation is needed exactly how it's been given! Thank you God for letting us go deep with you. And thank you guys for walking with the holy Spirit.

[@rp1037]

Thank you for dealing with this question. I have struggled with confidence in my salvation and often felt inadequate. But the way you described the backslider versus someone who lost their salvation gave me great hope and frankly great joy. Your courage in covering this topic has meant a lot to me so thank you very much.

[@rjsauvageau1967]

Thanks fellas. I have always found this to be true, by reading the Bible (go figure 😂). It’s amazing how many things “theologians” get wrong because they were taught a framework by other “theologians.”

[@seadubya649]

You are either growing closer to God, or getting further away. Because, if you stay the same, you are slipping away. Strive for intimacy, and you'll remain steadfast.

[@fidelamoah9115]

Love the intimacy part. God bless you.

[@EugeneHolley-rc6ry]

How can I get closer to God, any man in Christ is a new creature, he gave us a new heart or inner man, that Christ come to live in by his Spirit that will lead you and guide you, we receive from God what he has prepared for them that love him by believing him for them, the just shall live by faith, stop striving and start believing.

[@fidelamoah9115]

@@EugeneHolley-rc6ry Depends on what you mean by striving. Because the same Bible says we should "press on". To press on is synonymous to striving. However, if you are referring to doing good works to get God's favor, then you are right.

[@EugeneHolley-rc6ry]

@@fidelamoah9115 Hi Fidalamoah, we are saved by grace through faith, we can do nothing for salvation other than put our trust in the fact Jesus did it all for us, we are not saved by grace through faith and striving, that is a separate issue, I was only referring to salvation of our soul, or the being eternally saved. Blessings.

[@commodore428]

OSAS believer here. I have simple and friendly question for the opposing crowd. When you became saved, do happen to remember the precise date and time of the last sin you committed before then?

[@FrankAndSenseDSM]

Dude. Like… I agree with you. If one saved always saved, wasn’t true then nobody could be assured of their salvation. So how could anybody logically go around with the joy and peace of God if they don’t know if they’ll be saved until they die. And the only fallback is your works if you can’t rely on Jesus’s word that no one will pluck you from his hand, even yourself once you believe.

[@commodore428]

@@FrankAndSenseDSM I think the single greatest source of their confusion is this weird idea that OSAS equates to a "license to sin." I've been around OSAS believers for decades and literally never once, not once, ever encountered a Christian who thinks that believing in eternal security equals a license to sin. And I can promise, if you find someone who does think that, it's worth considering if their salvation was genuine to begin with.......that's not even in the ball park of losing it, though. It's dumbfounding.

[@coreykeplinger3391]

Jesus died for all our sins; not some.

[@mrsxber1916]

You can choose to leave God and forsake him and go on to live a life of sin after being saved. Once the trumpet sounds you will not be with him in heaven because you by an act of your will forsook him

[@commodore428]

@@mrsxber1916 It's true that we can run away from God. Many professing Christians have done just that in my generation alone. The fact that we have a choice has never been challenged, at least not here, so far as I can tell. Let me ask you this. When the Bible specifies multiple times, that Christ paid the price for our sins, which sins did He pay for?

[@ejwis1]

When you read the Old Testament and the prophets, God hates sin and it hurts Him deeply. It also says they didn’t have the fear of God. He said He would give them a new heart. One that is tender toward God. This is the purpose of salvation. Faith and humility toward Him are a requirement for salvation. Then He chooses to save you. Faith means you believe in Him and follow.

[@cassadycampbellofficial]

Hebrews 6:4-6 addresses Hebrew Christians tempted to return to the old covenant sacrifices. The key point here is that their actions, though serious and sinful, do not negate their salvation: 1. A Warning Against Apostasy: The passage warns of the severe consequences of abandoning faith in Christ, but it does not explicitly state that salvation is lost. • Instead, it highlights the impossibility of renewing them to repentance because they have hardened their hearts and are rejecting Christ's sufficiency. 2. Chastisement, Not Condemnation: • Hebrews 12:6-7: "For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons." • God disciplines His children to correct them, not to condemn them. This discipline is evidence of their continued status as His children

[@Tdinh79]

I believe in “Once Saved Always Saved” as long as you endure; remain faithful; and remain “in” Christ to the very end…

[@fidelamoah9115]

Same here.

[@DaChristianYute]

So let me ask you a question could you Have faith, Endure before you were a Christian, or rather could you have been a “good” person all by yourself?

[@Tdinh79]

@ partnering with the Holy Spirit, I have the ability to endure and remain “in” Christ by walking in the Spirit.

[@DaChristianYute]

@ partner? Now God has a partner show me the scripture that tells people God makes you his Partner, he’s your helper, he helps you, not you helping him, the next thing is you admit that the Holy Spirit gives you the ability to endure and remain right? Then how can you then not endure or remain? Does the Holy Spirit revokes that ability or is it the case where your sins are too big for him and he leaves? You can’t say the Holy Spirit Gives you the ability to remain and endure then also say “if you don’t” remain and endure then you lose your salvation, it’s either you’ve been given the ability to do so or not.

[@Tdinh79]

@ so in a covenant, I don’t have to remain faithful in it? And yes, the Spirit is my Helper. And yes, I must partner with Him to endure. I don’t have to listen to Him or abide by His conviction or His discipline. I can despise it. No verses where one can walk away from God or the father?

[@Lawnexpress382]

1 Thess 5:16 Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you. 🙏🏾❤️🔥

[@GodsSonOfLight]

Thank God for you brother! The Spirit has always never allowed me to believe in OSAS false doctrine. I've been so torn over this doctrine because all I do is see alot of others follow this demonic teaching. The Spirit led me to this video, and as our Master said "Seek and ye shall find." 🙌🏼 I thank you for giving the words of wisdom and knowledge that we (as the body) ALL need to hear and follow. I love you man! Stay shining that Light and Love that you now are bro in Jesus name amen! ❤️‍🔥💪🏼☝🏼👑🙌🏼

[@toddstevens9667]

Believing the Bible is not demonic. Those who interpret the Bible differently on this topic are not demonic.

[@GodsSonOfLight]

I never said the Bible or the people were demonic... I said that this false teaching of OSAS is a doctrine of devils that leads many to hell because it gives them a license to continue in sin... And if a doctrine leads many to hell then it is demonic.... OSAS is the TOP doctrine of devils 💯 ​If you do not live HOLY by being led by the HOLY SPIRIT then you will not see God... We have received GRACE to live, holy, not un-holy bro..💯💯💯 Hebrews 12:14 “Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.”.@@toddstevens9667

[@paulajones7291]

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I have read the same things in the Word and have had many discussions with people who go away believing that what they were taught is more important to what the Bible says. Although there are even more scriptures than what you mentioned concerning the subject, my question is always, “What good can come from teaching someone that they can never lose their salvation?”

[@McChurch7]

Sinfulness. No fear of God.

[@thedanbmcdonald]

This is excellent SOUND DOCTRINE. Critical for the purification and further faithfulness assurance of your salvation. The Lord is coming for His church, and SOON. Well done John & Aiden.

[@arby8217]

I'm eternally saved. My spirit got born again but my body didn't.

[@dannielleowens3397]

I love that John gives the whole counsel of God on the matter and does not just throw out a scripture. He is teaching the truth.

[@iclasvirtual155]

Thanks for the message. I have discussed the subject of "once saved always saved" and totally agree with what John Bevere teaches here.

[@newlightstudios6338]

Romans 8:1 "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus."

[@McChurch7]

Adulterers and fornicators are not in Christ Jesus.

[@newlightstudios6338]

@McChurch7 if they believe in Christ they are. Paul says "and so were some of you". That means that when we Believe In Christ we are positionally not these things anymore we are washed clean. Do you really think when he said that that every single believer had given up all their sins instantly and they were not doing them anymore. No he's talking about our spiritual position before God

[@McChurch7]

@@newlightstudios6338 Be careful sir. You do not have a license to sin. Paul said "let there not be a hint of sexual immorality among you". I can tell you don't know Jesus Christ.

[@newlightstudios6338]

@McChurch7 I can tell you don't understand the gospel and you think you're not sinning. We all sin, the Bible says if you say you're without saying that you're a liar and you're calling God a liar. I have fear that you're not relying on the blood of Christ and I hope you do

[@McChurch7]

@newlightstudios6338 The Bible tells us to bring His blood and a good conscience (obedience). I understand it very well. I get occasional parking ticket sins. I no longer get fornication, drunkenness, violence, hatred, etc. If you are in the doctrine, the blood covers. If you go too far outside of the doctrine, no more forgiveness remains, Hebrews 10:26-27. Few will get through the narrow gate. Most cannot give up the world and its sins. Good luck.

[@paulacraig5656]

Thank you so much for addressing this issue. I have seen this in the Word for years but even leadership, that I believe agrees , avoids even discussing it. I am grateful for the love and truth in which you are bringing this word forward

[@772elsim]

I listen to this podcast because i believe that we, Christians can lose our salvation. Because the scriptures in the Bible said so. And i love to listen to other Christians and hear how they preach this topic. 😊 My husband and i had brought out this topics to Christians around us, they all disagree even though we show them many scriptures in the bible, and many did not have the interest to talk about it. 😢 May mercy and grace of the Lord be upon us, and let all of us to increase in the knowledge of him.

[@IndianaJoe0321]

Agreed. Look up words & phrases such as "abide," "stand fast," "persevere," "endure," "be faithful," "remain steadfast," "endure to the end," "continue," "hold fast," etc. It is evident that one can freely choose to "forfeit" salvation.

[@brsan9801]

@@IndianaJoe0321Agreed

[@dilailamarie6549]

John 10:48 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 🙏🏼

[@daveiba3953]

@@dilailamarie6549 There many verses that prove OSAS! The wages of sin is death but even the worst habitual sinner upon death wouldn’t forfeit his salvation clearly illustrated in 1 Cor 5 “It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even named among the Gentiles-that a man has his father’s wife!” “deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.”

[@goretoye]

​@@dilailamarie6549 Why are you so easily put off by John's message? Jesus said many wonderful things. You have to combine ALL of His words to understand that Jesus will not be mocked. Open up your bible and read Revelation 3. There Jesus is telling the Church of Sardis; "I will blot out your name from the book of life!" Those are the words of Jesus my friend. He has the right to blot out names who proclaim to be believers but live under false Doctrine and lawlessness. Sit down and read about the 7 churches in the book of revelation and make sure your heart isn't aligned with those Churchs that God will NOT allow entrance into His kingdom. Just read it and see for yourself

[@Shar_Mander1991]

Jesus didn't die on the cross and say, "It's half finished." He said. "IT'S FINISHED." 🥰🙏 He came. He saw. He endured. HE CONQUERD!!

[@kevimc]

amen my sister

[@DavidSpillman-u8d]

Which John Bevere 100% agrees with. And our part is to believe in Jesus, follow, persevere, hold fast to him. And he completely saves us.