The Season 2 Roadmap is Just Awful - The Infinite Show 4 (ft. Wernissage)

The Infinite Show, Episode 4.
Laper Larden: / laperlarden
FootedGhost: / footedghost
Wernissage: / @wernissage
Roadmap bad
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:23 Initial reactions
3:17 Season 2 content
19:41 How?
28:00 The comeback?
30:57 The wishlist
43:20 Battle royale
47:56 MCC wishlist
#Halo #HaloMCC #Infiniteshow

[@FlamespeedyAMV]

Season 3 will be halo infinite leaving technical preview and going into alpha state

[@TheRealOAFs]

Very sadly accurate comment

[@gianlucag100g]

Less goooooooo

[@LaperLarden]

Season 2? Nah, more like Season Poo! Am I right? I'll see myself out...

[@Wernissage]

You’re off the podcast.

[@LaperLarden]

Bruh... Why you gotta do me like that?

[@seal_shepherd8148]

that's actually fuckin hilarious and I LOL'd unironically

[@vaniellys]

As a PvE player, I'm still waiting for coop campaign, and most important of all (sadly still no word on that): Forgeable missions and custom campaigns.

[@12Daniel34]

Ah yes, the thing that's totally been a quintessential part of Halo before and which we should totally, reasonably expect to come to this game: Forgeable missions. I mean, wtf?

[@hounsdjentlow3074]

@@12Daniel34 well there was alot to suggest 343 put alot of effort in to potentially making it a reality

[@hunterh1175]

Wait

[@12Daniel34]

@@hounsdjentlow3074 Yes, and that means we should just assume it's going to happen, this thing that no Halo has done before, and I'm sure it'll work perfectly, given 343i's track record. I swear they should just quit doing games altogether and just keep "suggesting" to "potentially" make things a reality, since that's enough to get you guys excited anyways.

[@hounsdjentlow3074]

@@12Daniel34 bro don't hate me because I'm excited about the possibility of something you're not. I'm not ignorant to 343s failures to deliver on alot of promises but I'd rather try to be positive about the inevitable fact that they will continue to work on halo for the foreseeable future rather than be a negative Nancy

[@Maggot-Milk]

343 is an enigma bro, they pull out all the stops for mcc but dripfeed their newest game lol

[@exilestudios9546]

I just checked steam charts and instead of the new update increasing the player count it lost players, there are now more people playing fallout 76 than halo infinite. This is just sad

[@charlesdemers1197]

Frick

[@triplestack6412]

your on drugs bro, before season came out it was peaking 8k a day and when season dropped was at a little over 20k, granted didn't hold it and is still pretty sad when siege still has an average of over 20k, but it did boost players

[@exilestudios9546]

@@triplestack6412 and yet it still is getting less players than the worst fallout game ever. It's pathetic and you know it.

[@triplestack6412]

@@exilestudios9546 you just repeated the second half of my reply, and got 7 dumbasses to like it, nice, but yeah, please re read the second half of that reply

[@Whiteyy191]

@@exilestudios9546 at least 76 is getting decent updates lol

[@BestintheWest25]

If Captain Price can be in Halo, and Sgt Johnson can be in a Call of Duty, and DOOM armor in Halo and vice versa, then literally what is the difference between the IP? Call of Duty is Halo. Halo is Doom. Animal Crossing is DOOM! WHY DO YOU ALL WANT THIS. Why can nothing just exist in its own vacuum, for its own sake.

[@Slender_Man_186]

This. Not ever game needs the same sprint-slide-jump combos, not ever game needs ADS, not every game needs a grappling hook, not every game has to have a Battle Royal and battle passes and this live service bullshit.

[@treesapien5762]

I work 50 hours a week. 343 can at least show up every day (with two days off per week) with punishment for missing work. They sit in comfy chairs all day and get to work on a beloved franchise that is open to any type of gameplay, and they can't come up with one creative idea. This is all they have to show after six months. This is pathetic.

[@TheJoviLovi]

It's creative but you got such bad taste bro

[@exilestudios9546]

They work 80 hour weeks with mandatory unpaid overtime while also not being paid proper industry rates due to the entire dev team aside form management being temporary contract workers and any talk of unionization leads to people getting fired. You make it sound like games development is some cushy job but it is one of the most stressful and demanding jobs a person can do.

[@milky_toast_]

@@exilestudios9546 343 is constantly talking about 'priority zero', i.e. blaming the slow progress on them taking their employees well being seriously. They brag constantly about how they treat their employees and use that to guilt people who ask for more content, like asking for more content is asking for the developers to be overworked and mistreated.

[@RadarHawk]

Tell me you don't understand game development without telling me you don't understand game development. Is Infinite in a deplorable state? Yes. Does 343 deserve the criticism? As long as its not death threats or personal attacks, yes. Do 343 employees deserve to have a life outside of work and not be forced to crunch? Yes. That being said however, this is the worst halo ever made in terms of features and modes at launch. Basic modes like king of the hill and team slayer being missing at launch is beyond ridiculous. Halo infinite has had the longest development time between releases but is somehow the most barebones release to date. It's a pathetic effort on 343 and Microsoft's part. Management issues and misallocation of funds is my guess for these issues.

[@TheJoviLovi]

@@milky_toast_ cause the devs are overworked?

[@EpsilonXenos]

Majority of the Titans of the gaming industry have fallen.

[@RadarHawk]

My question is what is MS and 343 doing with all the money they're making off of game sales, game pass, microtransactions in the storefront, all the product promotions with monster, rockstar, cheez it, oreos, trolli gummy worms, etc? Because funds don't seem to be getting allocated properly

[@807D14M0ND5]

This season's name and modes has ended my hope for a more social Halo Infinite

[@807D14M0ND5]

There's has to be research all these game studios are reading that says people buy more when they're isolated or something.

[@Wernissage]

I’m just gonna go to the bathroom…👀

[@danielsan9850]

This makes me sad. A once beloved video game franchise is being tarnished by 343’s incompetency.

[@Kyrnyx]

I don't think there's anything we can do unfortunately. Microsoft wants money, we want a good game. It's a game of tug o' war, and we're losing. Anything that hurts Microsoft's potential income is a threat in their eyes.

[@wadedewell]

Halo is dead to me. 343 ruined it. Cat ears skins silly dances and now a battle Royale is coming 343 turned halo into fartnite live service TRASH 🗑️

[@TheJoviLovi]

imagine changing your comment lol, the truth will come back to bite you

[@rubysvnhalo]

honestly i couldnt care less about a battle royale atleast its god damn something LOL

[@wadedewell]

@@rubysvnhalo you must be a kid. Elsewise you wouldn't be saying that. Anyone who's a of halo player understands battle Royale microtransactions and live service should never touch halo

[@Slender_Man_186]

@@rubysvnhalo it’d maybe be ok if we had even a fraction of the OG content this game should’ve launched with. No Co-op, no Forge, dozens of missing modes, no interesting maps, no Fire Fight or Spartan Ops or hell even Warzone, broken customs, no custom game browser, no file share, no service record, no progression system outside of the paywalled battle pass.

[@TheJoviLovi]

@@Slender_Man_186 you could always critique MCC. Or play it? Lol I play Halo Wars 2 and that game is lazy asf and yet they brought decent stuff which isn't even worth talking about. Complaining and getting mad online is a sad hobby

[@exilestudios9546]

Did you hear that they have already begun working on the next halo game and have basically abandoned infinite? That is hilarious and I called it

[@charlesdemers1197]

Where in God’s name did you hear that?!

[@807D14M0ND5]

Speculation that they're working on something different to do with Halo. They have not at all abandoned infnite, that's ridiculous.

[@MrSquidoid]

you believe everything you hear dont you

[@NeroLink1107]

Prophet of spittin Truth 🤣 good stuff guys, really enjoying these so far

[@coramswarrior]

Can we get a dedicated oddball playlist on that wishlist One of my all time favorite modes and I never get to play it

[@Multiversal_Productions]

ah you should have my account mate, every damn time I load up quick play, it's always oddball without fail, I haven't played quick play ctf or normal slayer since just after s2 launched. team slayer is kinda dull cus I hate BR starts and that's where the ranked players go to "chill" so it's just BTB for me. god I miss firefight

[@joster09]

in my wish list i'd have to say, making a map editor apart from forge, the map editor will give the ability to change terrain, atmosphere, ambiance, skybox and that stuff that forge maps come with, and forge as it's own thing, where you have the reach level of depth, contruction blocks, weapons, vehicles and all that good stuff, i believe that would give the hardcore creators the tools they need to make really detailed and tailored maps and modes, and give more casual creators some simple and out of the box tools to make quick and easy stuff.

[@coramswarrior]

Fuck yeah, Wernissage!

[@Wernissage]

Fuck yeah!

[@skettinbutter3635]

When is the team doubles dlc coming out? Next year?

[@gabethebabe3337]

All I know is the nanobots boy, and the epic scale/epic battles/epic worlds lady need to leave 343.

[@sap_phys]

"Infinite will be incredible one day." Really? I'll literally bet you that it won't lmao

[@SolaRufus]

This is a shredded moment

[@sofaking1627]

🤣 we thought we'd see infection in October

[@MasonAveKid437]

If they bring back the spiker, it should be done like the mauler/mangler. Don’t actually bring back the same functioning weapon. Bring in the Halo Infinite version. Give it a new name. “Impaler” and have it deal slightly more damage than AR, but slower rate of fire and smaller magazine. The original spiker was useless and unless a brute is the one shooting it at me, I don’t want to see its return.

[@arcadianlhadattshirotsughW33Z]

if im reading your mind correctly, the anime your thinking of is Jin Roh- the Wolf Brigade... fantastic movie, the opening part is insanely good..

[@optiTHOMAS]

i hope infinite gains momentum! it has so much potential! there's still so much stuff to be added, but alas, there's a UI shortage, you see! I'm looking forward to season 2, I just hope we get something interesting and something that will stay for the narrative event stuff! i like the ww1 looking armor! there's even a helmet with a brodie dough boy helmet! CORTANA FEET! 😆

[@mrROAR104]

honestly infection not being in game until october would be fantastic because as soon as it drops, like 80% of all custom games, and all modes my friends will ever want to play will just be variations of infection and I can't stand it. Game mode is fun now and again, but give me proper pvp modes with friends ffs :c

[@Lumbago-box]

Hey have you guys seen the farewell video by Marty O'Donnell?

[@wadedewell]

Stop having hope for this live service dumpster fire. This isn't halo, it's something else . It's call of Destiny. Not halo. 343 has failed since they took over. No more chances. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!

[@TheJoviLovi]

"OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!" Aaaaand that's a death threat right there

[@depressedcheems9961]

@@TheJoviLovi Its a figure of speech. If 343 says they're making a killing off their customers that doesn't imply they're slaughtering them.

[@KampzOnXbox]

M

[@ko55579]

Halo Infinite should either be re-launched with Season 3 or with 2 options of moving on from Halo Infinite that being either 343i developing another Halo with a better foundation or Microsoft handing it off to another studio either from Activision's or Id(I'll pick this studio if that happens)

[@atomicalex1732]

infinite is the perfect foundation, the game itself is great, all it needs is content

[@Majin_Fuu]

@@atomicalex1732 then why tf did they release this shit then? 343 has been fumbling the bag for 10 yrs and somehow people expect a turnaround.

[@atomicalex1732]

@@Majin_Fuu huh? you mean the game or the roadmap, because thats what im talking about the content is shit but the gameplay, graphics, art style and music are amazing

[@Majin_Fuu]

@@atomicalex1732 I don't disagree with that sentiment, tbh. What I'm saying is that the additional content should've been part of the initial package. I miss having a complete game on release, not a template

[@atomicalex1732]

@@Majin_Fuu i agree, infinites launch was very poor, but i must say with 10 years of content planned im quite exited for what this game turns out to be like, i just hope they dont add content like how they are right now

[@Molarhorizon]

at 45:24 ,advocating for just living with the battle royale inclusion is a bit flawed. Obviously at THIS point, beggars cant be choosers in Halo, though that br will likely take their attention and resources allocated to them, whether they have that other company or not. Saying you dont have to play it is just a bad ideology to me which goes hand in hand with games that stray from what they were, then to just tell the critics, "dont like it dont play it." br is fine whatever (despite my personal distaste) though knowing 343, they haven't satisfied the halo fandom, so how will a br help that dynamic.

[@capmcrunch8591]

They're going to BR because they think Fortnite's audience will save them, it won't. It's been several months after launch and we still don't have Grifball, Infection, Forge, campaign co-op, or even a Firefight/Warzone/Spartan Ops game mode. This game is lacking traditional content and their first instinct is to jump into BR. The game is still shallow, and I bet that if the BR is at all successful they will drop what they are doing and just focus on BR support. Certain Affinity isn't going to be there 24/7, more likely they will be there to do some post-launch support and then hand it off to 343.

[@ExplosiveBolts]

Never forget, it took 343 7 months to fix one obvious missing texture.

[@richardbeard9391]

good stuff

[@j1883311]

Remember PC port is sill borked for ,any especially the 'mkb vs controller' debate Before this is addressed many simply won't comeback EVEN IF coop and forge is added , because there's other AAA shooter that's better balanced then halo right now It'll take some time but halo infinite will get there, don't worry guys, I'm enjoying the journey right now cuz everything added is brand new to a new fan like me Cheers

[@ciscoperez6879]

Yuuuurrrrrrr

[@JJJBunney001]

1 thing I have to say with the weird armour... Hyabusa, the most popular armour for every edgey Halo 3 player

[@TheKerbero]

I highly recommend to watch Jin-Roh. It's a unique underrated masterpiece of an anime movie. Everything fits so well and the story is great. Unfortunately the korean version Illang miss the point of the story what made Jin-Roh so awesome. But I like the combat scenes in this movie. P.S. I got insane when I saw this helmet with the name "Kerberos". I wish I could use it on every core. Love it. But I gonna still be suspicious about Halo Infinite. It's sucks how 343i managed this game..

[@sagebias2251]

They should have built the entire thing in unreal engine.

[@basedsneedclave175]

We got A cringeworthy cutscene 2 maps one good one better than good 2 modes so far a eh version of koth and gun game ffa br (not a fan I don’t like ffa) What a meme

[@Monkeyman-qt1sm]

Halo infinite is the only game I’ve played that I spent $0 but still felt ripped off🤣

[@Ultragalactic_Space_Anarchy]

Its really cursed watching this a year later. Infection took far longer than these guys originally thought. S2 lasted nearly a year. The game is still dead and empty content wise. The game still has a lot of horrible glitches and lag. Its unreal

[@Ashamedofmypast]

Why is it so hars to find these? Playlist be helpful

[@gianlucag100g]

Yi

[@batezioman7448]

Laper Larden on MCC you said this be uploaded earlier. And you sniped me so UN-SUB

[@LaperLarden]

I'm sorry BatEzio! The video was ready to go, we were just waiting for the release of Season 2. The snipe however, I won't apologise for. That was fucken mad.