The Shocking Reality Of Dating: Is Love Really Blind? (ep. 105)

[@helenakoudou895]

“A harsh truth about dating is that people who don’t listen, end up with people they don’t want.” …. Spitting!!

[@intentionalgreatness]

"Actually you're a placeholder but i won't tell you that so i can keep getting what i want..while i still look for the love of my life"-Another harsh dating truth

[@ms.sophisticated1679]

Yes!🙌

[@CurrentsandCommerce]

“We all settle for something” is deep!

[@daninikki35]

Very deep. No one is perfect, so we definitely compromise/settle more than we’re probably consciously aware.

[@RareGold24]

Yes bring on Clay. That has potential to be a great convo.

[@queen_nyalla]

Yesss that would be dope! I need to hear him talk in a different, potentially more comfortable setting, with the bros

[@theresalor]

Yessss

[@keitha_kei]

Yes bring Clay

[@fooleycooley04]

He was on dear future wifey and a few other shows… he comes off as an opportunist… admitted he didn’t even want to be married during the “ vetting process” and he tried to get off off… barely was around except for times to film. Barely spent time… then every random time says” I don’t wanna cheat” and then to do what he did to his mom by sharing something she didn’t even know only to turn around and say “I thought my brother told her”… 🤥🫤🙄… the fact is the casting look for ppl who will be entertaining.. and he gave them that. Barely spent time said he didn’t want to get married barely spent anytime … only for him to drag her on the alter🫠🫠🫠🫠… nahhhh

[@LyriccNicole]

I’d love to see Clay as a guest on the podcast

[@margaretoaikena]

Yesss

[@YourMilkAndHoney]

Yes ! Thats a great idea

[@theravenmaven9997]

I was thinking the sameeee thinggg!!

[@olaburrell9091]

Absolutely not. That man don't deserve to sit with REAL MEN.

[@perdybirdie]

Agree.

[@rashayaboston]

Omg! Jalon is the first person I’ve heard notice the same point I noticed about Clay! He always spoke about how AD made him feel but it didn’t seem as if he felt the same way!

[@fooleycooley04]

Right! He always talked about her body or what she can do do for him

[@adaokoye493]

The comment made in the beginning is something a lot of people don’t realize or understand- if a person complimenting you can only name all the things you do for them, it’s a bad sign. I’ve always seen it as being self-centered, but y’all also made a good point about that person just trying to convince themselves to like you. Harsh truth..

[@Deettamonique]

Love is definitely not blind! I’ve lost 55lbs, i typically date in my community. Your weight and how you carry yourself is very important. Ive seen the change since ive gotten smaller. Its also important self aware as a woman too. It can be difficult to understand but you have to acknowledge it , so you dont be in uncomfortable situations.

[@perdybirdie]

100%. I hate hearing women say their weight doesn't matter when dating. It does and you do get better options when you're on the smaller side or height/weight proportional but leaning slimmer.

[@Deettamonique]

@@perdybirdie Me too!!! some people are delusional. Also some women confuse being around or sexual with a man as being with a man. It’s completely different, but some are not aware . Some wont get it until they lose weight and experience it first hand

[@daninikki35]

Agreed! It shows your values and honesty now that I’m older, I be looking at men like “does it look diabetic” if he drinks too much or smoke lots of hookah, I’m thinking “what’s his liver enzymes and lung health”. These things matter!! All can affect our quality of life

[@Deettamonique]

@@daninikki35 yep! It definitely goes both ways!

[@PrettyyChocolate]

As a bigger woman tgats a hard pill i had to swallow I noticed every time I loss a Lil weight I saw the difference then when I gained it back Iit was totally different

[@DiamondLeona]

Me personally , I wouldn’t mind saying I have a kid up front . The right man won’t care or eventually will come around on his own. Withholding info as major as that is like underhandedly manipulating a man into knocking off his standards he has set in place for his ideal relationship which only leads to an unstable foundation on which you CANNOT build a sturdy home .

[@NiceAndNeatThePodcast]

🥃🥃🥃

[@ariannaiman_]

Absolutely!!!!!

[@TheeJessieWoo]

Such a good episode omgggg

[@liveactiveli]

“You see Jimmys big ass parents” is insane 😂😂😂

[@NiceAndNeatThePodcast]

🤦🏾‍♂️Our bad 🥃🥃🥃

[@radvlogs6411]

Yes. Very disrespectful. They literally did nothing wrong. Also making a comment on Chelsea’s weight is also very disrespectful.

[@DesSpurlock]

I was hollering 😂

[@instrinsiclove]

I LOVE when you all just chop it up with the cameras on♥️ my favorite episodes!

[@lillianogugua]

Duke laid out what kevin Samuel’s was preaching the whole time. 80% of people try to get the top 20% beautiful women and rich men which comes with problems that they’re usually not willing to deal with and it doesn’t last long. Ain’t nothing wrong with average people 😂

[@Lovealwayswins512]

Yess, Duke shared it without hesitation. I believe it to be the TRUTH. I never thought about it prior.

[@Deettamonique]

Well Duke is a top 10% man. He has money and is super attractive. He going to wont a woman that a headturner for his status/peers and his own desires. We have to be self-aware about this too.

[@lillianogugua]

@@Deettamonique he admitted that 🤣

[@feminineliberty]

Love the podcast! Can you all possibly bring on Tony Gaskins. He is so wise and I would love to hear a convo between you all it would be great I believe

[@bribradley2736]

Jalon was so on point and in tune with my thoughts this episode that I had to comment. Such a good conversation...wish more could be discussed.

[@robiec5057]

The other guy was saying the same thing to AD and another girl. That’s why she went for Clay. She settled for Clay when she should’ve went home

[@dswannbeautyartist]

Yep

[@perdybirdie]

Yup because she has poor decision making skills and most important, wanted to be on TV. Her plan worked though.

[@jasminebaldwin9635]

AD didn’t have an opportunity lol Matthew was playing her too! She ended up with two player options

[@sedariesaaliyah6174]

‼️‼️😭

[@perdybirdie]

Agree. He literally told her and the other amber the exact same thing, then he broke up with her and said he's going to see about amber 😂. AD has a terrible picker, period.

[@MsRondo009]

Exactly lol. I’m like did y’all watch the same show I did? He was telling bitches the same lines lol.

[@ShayLamere]

Panning to their facial expressions as the other person speaks literally MAKES the show! Like I cannot stop laughing. Please never forget to edit this way

[@ShayLamere]

28:40

[@ShayLamere]

10:47

[@ShayLamere]

Nah, this is STILL hilarious! "Nah, I'm askin"

[@SuperMakeupaddicted]

1st podcast I sat through the entire time in the longest time...I thoroughly enjoyed this!!!

[@NiceAndNeatThePodcast]

🥃🥃🥃

[@leslielopez6086]

I agree with being upfront about having kids. Having kids is NOT in everyone’s plan. As a single mother I’d rather weed out any men who are not willing to accept me with my little ones right off the bat, than to invest my time and feelings only to be let down further down the road. MOST DEFINITELY mention being a single parent is never a down play of who we are as a person but it does hurt when someone isn’t willing to accept us single moms with our “baggage”

[@Ashley_Brown85]

This is 100 percent true.. My child father didn't tell me he had a second child on the way until I said I would date him... I knew about his first child but didn't know about the 2nd...i was upset but still gave it a chance and the relationship didn't work out because the other BMs was involved in a controlling way. I never had a spot in his life. Unfortunately I had my first child with him and now, he's not in her life.... You definitely have to tell the person you're dating that you have children. This will give them the opportunity to tell you if they're willing to deal with children. My exact words to my ex.

[@nickab2691]

I loved and enjoyed this conversation!!! Now, THAT'S REAL 52:57

[@Fromgoodwomen]

this is a great episode

[@bigdreams6308]

Hall of fame episode.,Duke was cooking!!!!!!

[@justjillian9247]

"you gon ask about her family health history too?"😂😂😂 that took me out! my fav podcast

[@NiceAndNeatThePodcast]

‼️🥃🥃🥃

[@Cutee2envy]

Different perspective on the Jess situation, and I guess a lot of people do this, but she definitely manipulated her way into Jimmy’s heart by not telling him about her daughter. You’re omitting information for your benefit. There’s not much difference in what she did and what Carlton (season 1) did. He waited until after the engagement to disclose that he was bisexual. Granted, Jess didn’t wait until after getting engaged, but she definitely was trying to get what she wanted without being completely honest.

[@breconwell7631]

This was really good! Y’all should bring Clay on an episode that would be good!

[@MadisonPettway_]

Love seeing men react to this show 😂

[@AngieLouis-tc9cc]

Harsh truth. Some people with kids might not wanna date someone without kids cause they might not trynna start over.

[@kendraanderson4656]

The Coors light part made me laugh OUTLOUD omggggg Jalon! Actual factual

[@cshmonnn]

THIS is how you properly actively listen. Thank you! Lmao. A lot of us to do tend to become infatuated in the process of dating. I guess you can call it being a little too present 🤔 or being in a daze of some sorts. To not only listen to the cues, but also thinking about what that could MEAN. what that could LOOK like and how that reflects in their life… and how it could reflect in yours.. Hm. Very notable. It’s like we notice some things, some red flags.. but we choose to either push it to the side to “come back to” or we choose to settle for it. But to actually think about how these cues or red flags could reflect in your life.. yeah ion think we do that toooo too much. You weren’t even trying to give advice but that’s exactly what you did. Thank you! Lolol

[@missdime7433]

You guys please start covering and interviewing love is blind cast specially the black once. Your subscribers would go through the Roof

[@nolansdaily6364]

Jess cleared up that she told every guy in pods she had a kid once topic came up organically bc all other guys just asked about family planning in general. Her & Jimmy’s conversations didn’t go there until a few days in. I think she played it right. Revealing it as news day 1 is imp if the kid was a toddler b/c that would be a recent ex + kid is fully dependent on mom which changes a lot about dating. Even still though, it shouldn’t be a ground rule on this..She could over power every first date talking about her kid and upbringing or she could keep it light and see what the guy brings. My opinion, being previously divorced is equally as important in this situation to mention. You have to process that you are not this persons first or only spouse .. that changes a lot for ppl believe you should only experience marriage once. Especially when the cast is in their 20s.. not 50s.

[@beuncamalone]

Exactly

[@tanyacastro6085]

I aboustley love these discussions

[@DaGreatAri]

Never seen the show but this is some good conversation.

[@nias8828]

I Enjoyed this episode!

[@adriennehopkins4364]

Duke! You spitting this episode. Real sh*t!

[@lillianogugua]

I have a colleague that was on the show and got married lol I can connect y’all if y’all really want.

[@NiceAndNeatThePodcast]

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[@johnanthonypadul703]

Another great episode fellas 🔥🔥

[@tanyacastro6085]

this was so good

[@Blush210]

Hiding ya kid is a red flag. 🚩 period and it would deter me from dating anyone. What’s important to you is what you will show me and that’s what I wanna see. Period.

[@TheLatatiana]

This was a great one guys. Ima show every man I meet this episode because this is the definition of keeping it P. Young boys have lost the art Of the rules of the game

[@kordneynycole]

Duke with the wisdom !!!!! Speak !!!!!!!!!

[@kiag1531]

Solid Podcast!!! ✊🏽🙌🏾

[@Haddyray]

Duke: whatcha gonna do to me! You can't see me O&Jalon:😒 😂😂😂😂 love that you guys talked about this show!

[@ShayLamere]

Easily the funniest part of this episode. I kept rewinding!! I’m in tears

[@RebeccaEloisa]

The part about vulnerability 👏🏽 I read an amazing book called Nonviolent Communication. It’s teaches you how to communicate more honestly, without the mess. The author was a mediator who helped diffuse situations and negotiations. Great for dating and relationships:)

[@ShayLamere]

I like the new intro & setup

[@Whoistiffanynicole]

So good u guys! ❤ keep it coming!

[@ishmaelshyllon4730]

Clay is from my side also, in New Jersey, and he definitely needs to come on the show to explain his perspective!

[@ariesk]

Lmaoo I love yall idc what topic

[@danaikajean3647]

I love listening to you guys 🥺💝.

[@adyamarshae]

I loved this episode! Keep going, love y’all.❤️

[@a_anita_p]

To get the information you need, you should ask everything you want to, esp if it's a deal breaker, early on. I understand the notion of getting to know someone first, but deal breakers gotta be discussed early.

[@HazelEyedNeshia]

As a single mom, I see nothing wrong with not disclosing me having a child right off the bat. At the end of the day, the man is having to choose to be with ME. My kid will eventually grow up & live their own life, while I will still be with the man that I chose. The man should get to know the mother first, without having in the back of his mind that she is a mom. We are moms and it is the most important role that we have but we are MORE than JUST a mom.

[@beuncamalone]

same here mama 🤍 i actually love Nice N Neat Podcast , so hearing them say what I know is looked at as a “disadvantage” to most of society is definitely a HARSH “truth” . . I actually will meet men , tell them I have kids (👶🏾👶🏾) and instantly see the disinterest off the rip . So , I stopped . Then , I also heard a black dating professional mention that us as mommies SHOULD REFRAIN from disclosing that on any first date . Now , I discern which men imma let know upfront vs. keeping it to myself for a little bit . Sorry for the long comment , but this is how I know that mine will be GOD sent , cause I’m a single mommy and no one tries to talk to me 😌

[@thereviewer2494]

well said

[@perdybirdie]

Yes and no. As a woman with no kids, I'm dealing with a man with kids no matter how great his personality is. I can find that in someone childless, where we can create our own family and not have to deal with everything that comes with outside kids. It's your child so you see it a certain way, but reality is very hard when dealing with children not your own.

[@HazelEyedNeshia]

You can find someone with a good personality, sure.. but what if YOUR person just so happens to be someone with kids? The other men with "good personalities" won't matter if said man is not YOUR person.@@perdybirdie

[@Abby-dk1jm]

Nah jalon was too real this episode 😂😂😂

[@WhoIsTheeMeister]

From the clip in the beginning of this episode, I thought Duke was absent! Glad to see you all on all episodes! 🏆 Everyone is important, yet it’s also understandable if someone isn’t there or even if an episode doesn’t drop! 💝

[@heychaena]

Chelsea damn sure did say she enjoys a Coors light 😩😂

[@NiceAndNeatThePodcast]

😂😂😂

[@BigShayEnergyUS]

Can yall have AD on??

[@fooleycooley04]

Having Clay on the show gives him exactly what he wants- attention. The fact he said on precious podcasts he didn’t want to be married and went along with it because he was incentivized.. you can tell he even said he never watched the show until during filming. The casting ppl recognized that Clay could be a villain and he gave them enough material to do so. First he wasn’t even present most of the show and only came on for filming… Clay's all about the spotlight, on "Dear Future Wifey." He's got his mom right there with him ( she seems like she enables him) blaming the show or saying it AD when in reality he was barely there for the 6 weeks by his own admission- everything was “her body, what she can do for him, “I don’t wanna cheat -which he says at the most random times, and “my daddy my daddy” then gets on the reunion to say black men coming from broken bones - like sir 🫠🫠🫠🫠 you talking to ppl who dgaf. Says she is the love of his life after they haven’t seen each other and goes on these podcasts 🙄🙄🙄 to say the opposite. It's like he's on these shows to hear himself talk, without saying anything worth hearing.

[@ItsBritttney]

Clay definitely need to come sit down with y’all!!!

[@BerryOptimystic]

I believe it is n o t impossible to fall in love with someone without experiencing them in person. Just like silence speaks louder than words… conversation and action can bring you two to the alter. 👐🏽

[@keerabilo7095]

I’d love to see Brett and Tiffany on nice and neet

[@cdubb_]

The richer man/prettier wmn gem that Mr Red Hat dropped was a moment I agreed with. Mr in the corner with the blk tee (not the dude with the dreds) dropped hella gems. I was pleasantly surprised.

[@ariannaiman_]

We all know this but we desire it 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

[@Kiya8888]

First! Many blessings my guys 😀

[@esthernwosu7406]

You guys should definitely jump in the dms of the cast members They seem really open to interviews etc.

[@ShyiaRobinson]

This episode was hilarious! 😂😂😂

[@Love_Lacie]

I fast forwarded the one successful couple’s part of the show too 😂

[@NiceAndNeatThePodcast]

😂😂😂

[@Momentswithelizabeth]

This episode hurt my feelings but in a good way.

[@downwiththeclique7239]

If you can’t base a relationship solely on looks, then you can’t base a relationship solely not on looks. Y’all should reach out to Clay and have him on the show

[@soniaevans1]

Duke, preached it loudly and boldly! Truth looks real! His vulnerability, truth and position echoes the man I’m with and deeply in love with. Guess what, we are equally in love which continues to grow in the boldness and vulnerability with each other, and couple therapy allows us to shine in our committment.

[@dionwilliams6809]

I agree! Love is not blind!!

[@rashayaboston]

Duke I have to disagree with you on the pretty women comment with the attitudes😩

[@NiceAndNeatThePodcast]

Elaborate please 🥃🥃🥃

[@Mimi8402]

I chuckled at the beer reference, cause the way beer makes us women look…😂

[@TradingJacob]

I think whether we like it or not as man no matter what our status is. Rich, Top Dawg, That guy whatever you wanna call it, when you hurt someone or back stab someone who isn’t doing that to you. You’ll get your karma one way or another. Regardless of what you got going on.

[@sandyandy4402]

Did you watch the show? AD didn’t end up with Matt because he used the same line on her and Amber about seeking their father’s approval before proposing. He was shady not a nice guy. Had nothing to do with taste in music. Also Jimmy didn’t ask Chelsea what celebrity she looked like, she brought it up which is why she got heat for being manipulative and shady

[@Nice.ornaudi]

Chelsea admitted that she had dated dudes that wasn’t nice to her, I honestly think she needs to heal because it’s entirely possible and common to make people suffer for the actions of people from your past. She needs to deal with her trauma not get married.

[@KelsiDanielle]

I have to agree with Jalon about Jess. I thought hiding that she has a child was a bad idea.

[@philfreemedia]

💪🏾 Ouch! Y’all started off so heavy!!

[@DejanaesEssence]

It’s the best belly part for me🤭😂😭

[@brownbeautytv8430]

"You seen Jimmy's big ass parents " lmfao

[@melaninbeaute6968]

Lost me at the prettiest women having a bad attitude. Cuz huh?

[@mrsroseyp109]

Not them already coming for Jeramey...before they even get to him..."CLOWN" "CLOWN" lmao

[@aujhaneee]

I don’t think love is conditional for ppl with kids. I do think people have preferences, but having a kid only makes a woman with value more choosy when it comes to picking a man to date and vice versus. I think without having a kid you are subject to picking and dealing with ppl who aren’t genuine. I wouldn’t personally date a man with kids but I also wouldn’t date a 5’8 man.

[@lordgully5951]

Having a kid only makes that “woman with value” way less “valuable”, to even a Man with kids let alone a 5’8 Man.

[@TerynBrielleP]

Well lucky to you all !! All of you are 10/10 and you all’s ladies are also 10/10 just 3 gorgeous couples !! You all are fortunate 🥰🥰 There’s many couples who also fall in that category of being equally yoked 🙏🏾 I am fortunate to be in a relationship that is equally yoked as well !! ❤

[@chunguchipalo5066]

Wow love this😂

[@DHenny]

sigh this episode made me even more depressed 🥴😢

[@Beauty-n-Brain-1]

I think the same way if im dating i think you are to, an if i see you on a date i wouldn’t say anything to you either i’ll keep going with my night or day

[@AllMoneyInDonP1]

🔥🔥🔥

[@weaktoxic9683]

Love is blind, in the truest sense, remember when ppl got married over aim and yahoo chats. Ppl fell in love without ever seeing each other back then. I don’t think that’s possible now

[@salomewilliams1831]

What about having an adult kid?

[@srswms5157]

Are you 5'8" or taller?

[@Blush210]

WE TALK FOR 6 hours AND YOUR DAUGHTER DOESNT COME UP 🗣️🗣️🗣️ enough said!! If ya KIDS aren’t a major part of ya life or something you wanna share then I’m not interested period that’s CRAZY.

[@Haddyray]

So do your women have bad attitudes??? Instead of bad can we say strong..

[@JeremyHunter-f3w]

Good Episode. Duke's hard truths needed some deeper diving. Only throw out generalizations like that with some good details behind them. When he asked for clarifications, Jalon's face was all of our faces, and I'm still dissatisfied with the answer. I guess it didn't feel nice and neat.... No hate, just constructive criticism.

[@NiceAndNeatThePodcast]

🥃🥃🥃

[@LivingOnTheContrary]

She also said probably because of her eyes and dark hair. Those are the parts of her that do resemble Megan Fox, which was true. That’s on him

[@Goddesx29]

The white guy left her hanging he left the show to go get the white girl so ad was left with clay so I feel if he would have give her a chance she would not have chosen clay but it’s a show lol so we know how that goes 😅

[@yourholisticbestie]

They need to add a therapist to help guide…

[@drielx1031]

TRUTH IS... LOVE MAY NOT BE BLIND FOR YOU. BUT IT MAY BE BLIND FOR SOMEONE ELSE.. TRUTH IS.. YOU MAY HAVE A SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGE AND BE MARRIED 25 PLUS YEARS. OR YOU JUST MAY HAVE SUCCESSFUL THEN UNSUCCESSFUL MARRIAGE THAT MAY LAST ONLY 3 YEARS. THAT THING ABOUT LIFE IS THAT. LIFE EXPERIENCES IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM EVERYONE..

[@fooleycooley04]

Honestly this show doesn’t care about marriage … they used the reunion to clear and fix their image because of all the stuff that was on the internet about the casting process and the amount of lawsuits they have against them… I mean the hosts -the Lacheys clearly don’t know how to host or interview … or guide these ppl..and ppl been complaining for years…

[@Blush210]

If the fact I’m a devoted parent turns you off then you just not for me tf. Nah ain’t no reason to hide ya kid. Wtf would you wanna date someone who don’t wanna date someone with kids??? Like that makes no sense nah