The SIG P210 Carry Review

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@surfingonmars8979
@surfingonmars8979 2 жыл бұрын
My own “tuxedo gun” is indeed a tuxedo piece: Walther PP in .380 - got it 42 years ago while serving in the Manhattan DA’s Office. Purchased from a retiring NYPD Detective. Fire it a couple of times a year only, now, but in 42 years have NEVER. HAD. A. SINGLE. MALFUNCTION. NOT. ONE. Was a carry piece for years early on, and took it to range often, then. Thousands of rounds over the decades. And so elegant. Reads on the side MADE IN W. GERMANY.
@TheCDelX
@TheCDelX 2 жыл бұрын
The Factory where it was made is here around the Corner, and still running.
@puertoricanboy100
@puertoricanboy100 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, I'd love to hear you tell stories and hear your opinions. You seem like a very knowledgeable person with tons of stories.
@surfingonmars8979
@surfingonmars8979 2 жыл бұрын
@@puertoricanboy100 actually, if you own a tv you’ve probably heard my stories - tv writer of major, network cop and law shoes…..
@clintharper8906
@clintharper8906 2 жыл бұрын
I have a plastic hammer marked "Made in W. Germany". It's not the same thing ...
@surfingonmars8979
@surfingonmars8979 2 жыл бұрын
@@clintharper8906 Absolutely correct: one is a gun. One is a hammer. Together, they are a gun and a hammer.
@irl-hdr4080
@irl-hdr4080 2 жыл бұрын
If it’s expensive, European, and impractical then you know James is gonna love it.
@Romanus-
@Romanus- 2 жыл бұрын
But glocks are only one of those things and it’s not expensive or impractical lol
@irl-hdr4080
@irl-hdr4080 2 жыл бұрын
@@Romanus- I think James endorses them so us poors don’t lose all hope.
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 2 жыл бұрын
You still talking about guns, right?
@Just_a_Tool
@Just_a_Tool 2 жыл бұрын
I guess 1911's and 2011's are just missing the European part for him.
@flinch9748
@flinch9748 2 жыл бұрын
That thing is not European.
@cltnthecultist
@cltnthecultist 2 жыл бұрын
9 rounds? The WA government will give me many social credits for owning one of these, instead of my terrifying 13 round shield plus. Thanks Sig!
@skinny01717
@skinny01717 2 жыл бұрын
9+1 but +15 social credit score.
@TheOutside84
@TheOutside84 2 жыл бұрын
I get it. I live in bellingham. Im buying 3 cz p10c 17, 19, or 21 mags every check til july. Plus a shield +5..... ugg.
@mavs44s
@mavs44s 2 жыл бұрын
No shit. WA. Is California little duck boy. Big daddy CA. Did I do it right asks little Inslee. Yes son says CA. 17 Rds is criminal. 10 is all a good citizen needs. 2A neutered in WASHINGTON
@cltnthecultist
@cltnthecultist 2 жыл бұрын
@@mavs44s wow, how eloquently stated
@gui-texzan7477
@gui-texzan7477 2 жыл бұрын
🏆
@emersonb5764
@emersonb5764 2 жыл бұрын
In case this helps, since it was mentioned here about the recoil spring, and a lot of folks are under the impression they shouldn’t leave their magazines loaded full…Springs “weaken” from repetitive cycles, not long term compression or stretch. And when it does it’s not actually “weakening” the spring metal. It’s work-hardening it, so the spring no longer extends to its original extended length, so it’s then applying less pressure onto what it’s pushing against. This is why it feels “weaker”. Eventually it would reach such a hardness that it would break when flexed. Worn springs can and do sometimes break. If they were becoming softer, they’d become less likely to break. There are hundreds of springs all around us that survive many decades in a pre-loaded, stretched or compressed state and they don’t simply turn into limp noodles from sitting around, or else your cars frame would be on the ground and your DVD player would have tiny little springs falling out of the front of it if you pick it up and shake it. But drive several hundred thousand miles in that car and watch DVD’s 24/7 for 15 years and eventually you may break or shorten a spring enough to fail. Folks confuse the hardness of a spring, with the amount of pressure it applies. Totally separate things. Hardness is a metallurgical property of the spring metal. What you feel with your hands when pushing or pulling on a spring is determined more by the geometry of the spring. Length, wire diameter, coils per inch, preload, etc.
@aaronfarnsworth7653
@aaronfarnsworth7653 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't your stated 'work-hardening' just a result of a failure in the design, materials or tempering? You further state that it would reach such a hardness that it will break when flexed. That sounds like a fatigue failure which should only happen when the material exceeds its elastic range, moving into the plastic range with enough repetitions to create a localized fracture. Long before that moment of failure the plastic deformation should show as permanent bends in springs or shortened length would it not? If the magazine or action designs are faulty they could exceed the allowable spring travel. Forcing the material into the plastic range that it should never see. If the spring's alloy and or tempering give it a less than expected compression range that would be another fault. Hope you don't mind the questions. This is enjoyable for me to ponder. It's been decades since I had a materials course.
@oklahomahank2378
@oklahomahank2378 2 жыл бұрын
This old myth that long term compression hurts springs features in one of the Jack Reacher novels, maybe Without Fail, it’s the one where he cleans up a DEA mess.
@GRMGR1
@GRMGR1 2 жыл бұрын
If Sig had directly copied the Swiss 210 I’d buy one. That Carry version looks amazing but it’ll never be a high volume item. When/if Sig stops making these new models they’ll stop supporting them and you’ll have a pistol that you can’t get parts for, and the Swiss parts won’t fit. I’m considering selling my 556 because Sig dropped all support for it and left me hanging looking for a recoil spring. Hopefully nothing breaks on my 522 either because I SBR’d it and Sig no longer supports it as well. I believe if Sig USA had directly copied the 550 series that they’d still be making them. There’s a pattern to Sig’s behavior: Take a sought after design change it to make it “better” enough that original parts don’t interchange, then drop it and stop supporting it leaving customers hanging. It’s happened to me with my 556 and 522. I have many Sig products and will certainly buy more in the future, but I’ll always worry about being left high and dry needing parts.
@Ben-rq5re
@Ben-rq5re 2 жыл бұрын
Can't you just buy a new spring from a spring manufacturer that isn't necessarily an official recoil spring? I've never done it for a firearm, but I'm a mechanical engineer for work and more than once I've sent a spring to a local manufacturer and they've replicated it for me..
@GRMGR1
@GRMGR1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-rq5re Sure, and that’s certainly what I’ll wind up doing eventually but the spring diameter, length, and weight are a guessing game of experimentation.
@GRMGR1
@GRMGR1 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielpope3579 They’re not directly compatible. My rifle is the 556 patrol swat version with the recoil spring inside the gas tube. The Swiss version of that gas system length has the spring located behind the bolt carrier using a different guide rod mechanism. Not compatible.
@GRMGR1
@GRMGR1 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielpope3579 you’re right, I stand corrected on that aspect. However, that doesn’t really help me. Send me a link to a 553 recoil spring if you know where one might be. There are parts on my 556 that are completely different from any Swiss model and no one in the world makes them anymore (all the pieces related to using AR magazines for instance). You also can’t argue that Sig dropping the 556 and 522 (no Swiss equivalent at all for the 522 model) line and dropping support for those platforms has made it very difficult for owners like me to find replacement parts. That was my point in the first place. Kudos to your knowledge of the different models.
@GRMGR1
@GRMGR1 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielpope3579 I appreciate the information. I do still wish that Sig still supported the 556. All this would be simpler. I knew once they came out with the 556xi that the platform was beginning a downward spiral. I do still believe that if they’d cloned the 550 series without changes from the beginning they’d possibly still be making them today. Who can be sure though. I can say that I’ll forever be leery of Sig now that they’ve left me hanging.
@nerdworld8211
@nerdworld8211 2 жыл бұрын
Recently I was given an opportunity to shoot both the P210 Carry and P210 Target. I started with the target, and yes it is accurate, but the recoil was very sharp and uncomfortable. Being some many years apart the P210 carry was a engineered dream to shoot Fast shooting a made a tight little group and the recoil was just butter.. soft and smooth. Well worth the high price tag and weight
@tuurd
@tuurd 2 жыл бұрын
Love that sly upskirt view that you slipped in there. Good thing no beanbag was visible, can't upset the youtoobs
@aaronfarnsworth7653
@aaronfarnsworth7653 2 жыл бұрын
The TFB TV Manty-cam view. You never wanted to see it in the first place and now can't scrub the image from your eyes.
@billseaman5974
@billseaman5974 2 жыл бұрын
Hell I'll buy one it has a HAMMER. IM TIRED OF STRIKER FIRED GUNS and yes I'm an old man.
@alejandres26
@alejandres26 2 жыл бұрын
😆
@peterquinn2997
@peterquinn2997 2 жыл бұрын
We know 😆
@blackhawk7r221
@blackhawk7r221 2 жыл бұрын
Most will not understand what you mean by that. Most only have experience with poor transfer bar triggers, whether striker fired or DA/SA.
@barneymiller7894
@barneymiller7894 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not old and I carry SAO!...I was just taught to shoot by an old man...with an old 1911 😂
@TheJHMAN1
@TheJHMAN1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not old, these people are just too young! James is so young he still in short pants.
@ClemsonJohnson
@ClemsonJohnson 2 жыл бұрын
I am thinking that since I caught this video minutes after upload and had given up on SIG releasing it, I should just pull the trigger and buy one. I have been dreaming about a carry size 210 for almost 20 years. Great review, as always.
@camerons3097
@camerons3097 2 жыл бұрын
Suppose it looks cool but I think I’d rather carry my CZ-75 PCR or SP 01. You can swap out the PCR sights (they are ass), get different grips to make it slimmer or wider and it would still be cheaper. I know price isn’t everything but even as a “tuxedo gun” that isn’t made to be super practical I feel like there are a lot better options.
@drivehike4336
@drivehike4336 2 жыл бұрын
I have the P210 carry and the PCR so I was able to shoot them one after another. They both shoot amazingly, and I went back and forth about which one was greater. I would say the PCR shoots just a bit better because of the weight, has less recoil. P210 is more ergonomic and a bit lighter. And, of course let's not forget the CZ hold 15 rounds. They both look great. I don't know, even though technically 15 rounds is a lot better than 8 rounds, in the real world they are equal. I have to admit, if CZ 75 never existed, P210 would've been amazing, but only because of the capacity.
@governmentcalamari9785
@governmentcalamari9785 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a chance. They make this modernization of the p210 an actual carry option. As many many people have said and asked for a double stack p210(p2020) rail and red dot set up. I could see it rivaling higher brand 2011. Saying their reliable. As the p210 carry sits I’ll be buying for 2 reason a in hopes it funds r&d for a p2020 and it being something a little more unique sa guns.
@drivehike4336
@drivehike4336 2 жыл бұрын
@@governmentcalamari9785 I honestly don't understand the obsession with red dot and light. It's not a defense gun, take it as it is. Everybody online wants red dot and light on their carry guns, I am curious how "carry" they still are. And about the double stack, again, I don't care, in real life you don't need that many shots. Fact. Training trumps every upgrade on any pistol.
@governmentcalamari9785
@governmentcalamari9785 2 жыл бұрын
@@drivehike4336 I and everyone else would rather have more options for the same price. A pic rail and optics mounts allows for more then just ccw.
@mrtlsimon
@mrtlsimon 2 жыл бұрын
I handled the P210 carry at SHOT 2020 and the Great American Outdoor Show in Harrisburg PA. I was excited about this version because I'm a fan of the original. I think your description of a Tuxedo Gun was appropriate for this version of the P210. The trigger was good, the sights are good and the safety is phenomenal, a solid carry gun. I like the idea of owning one and it goes on the "I may treat myself to a really nice gun that's not all that practical" list.
@ryanwalker3509
@ryanwalker3509 2 жыл бұрын
I like to refer to them as a great 4th gun
@Genesis23OPB
@Genesis23OPB 2 жыл бұрын
as a swiss, i like the pistol asthetically, but find it to be ultimately a bit pointless. it used to be a military pistol that became a beloved competition pistol. trying to fit that into the role doesnt make much sense for me when they are so much better options around. carrying a 1911 in 9mm makes not much sense, carrying a 2011 in 9mm makes more sense. had they modernised the P210 carry to the point it accepted P365 or p320 mags it would have been much better imo.
@chaimafaghet7343
@chaimafaghet7343 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, with you on this one. P365 mags should have been a no brainer.
@oskar6661
@oskar6661 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, but I think you missed the entire point of the video/gun. This isn't a common sense gun. I don't believe anyone is stacking this up compared to more logical concealed carry pieces.
@chaimafaghet7343
@chaimafaghet7343 2 жыл бұрын
@@oskar6661 That's cope. This isn't a P210 reproduction, if you're making "improvements" anyway there's no reason to stick with the original mags except perhaps laziness.
@Genesis23OPB
@Genesis23OPB 2 жыл бұрын
@@oskar6661 oh i do get it, but if you change something to the point its completely different to its original purpose, why stick with something not only easily improved, but meaningfull, usefull and well deserved changes? its like porsche improving on the VW beatle with better bodywork, suspension and whatnot, but then sticking with the original engine, completely throttling the improvements and keeping it from reaching its potential.
@pnastysavage5510
@pnastysavage5510 2 жыл бұрын
This happens to be a desirable gun in the american market as they werent very common up until recently, and theres a market for a solid full size/carry all steel pistol.
@SmallHandsBigBite
@SmallHandsBigBite 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 365XL and it was absolutely perfect in fit and concealment for my small hands. The accuracy was great and the recoil not harsh...but I also had a Hi-power P35 that spoiled me. I wound up hating to carry Double stack magazines to a point where I just went with a .45 1911 Commander size. Loved that too. Ideal size gun and magazines. Weight doesn't bother me. But the P210 Carry is the answer for me and I will be picking mine up tomorrow. 4.1inch barrel, slim mags, slim grip. This P210 carry has been in my sight since before they announced it. The standard P210 was ideal for me but I just couldn't find slimmer grips or iwb holsters.
@mitchellerickson9836
@mitchellerickson9836 2 жыл бұрын
The not so subtle burn on John Lovell was awesome lol
@MBT3X
@MBT3X 2 жыл бұрын
I had to scroll to far for this. I spit out my water
@codycarlton3719
@codycarlton3719 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I kept scrolling. I was starting to think no one else caught it lol
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 8 күн бұрын
No one is safe from James' barbs. 😎
@bettycocker2226
@bettycocker2226 2 жыл бұрын
i think comparing it to the P938 is a little more fair. One less round in the 938 for an extreme size and weight savings over this. I just wish they offered it with a rail for light mounting to make it a little more practical for "carry"
@blackhawk7r221
@blackhawk7r221 2 жыл бұрын
A light on your pistol shows the bad guys where to aim. Be careful
@utahedc447
@utahedc447 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackhawk7r221 that is the biggest piece of fuddlore I have ever heard. You can’t shoot what you can’t see.
@jstud999
@jstud999 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackhawk7r221 in what scenario are you going to be hiding from a “bad guy” and can still legally shoot them? Quit regurgitating this fuddlore
@blackhawk7r221
@blackhawk7r221 2 жыл бұрын
During room clearing drills, our stack team is trained to always shoot at the moving light, because there is a 10/10 chance that it’s attatched to a pistol.
@utahedc447
@utahedc447 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackhawk7r221 turns out the light was little Johnny holding a flashlight, entire team of cops would go to prison for life, kek. Either you are LARPing as police / mil or sadly your entire force doesn’t know tf they’re doing.
@ralphg1891
@ralphg1891 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. Never thought I needed a Tuxedo gun. But now I need one.
@Quality_Guru
@Quality_Guru 2 жыл бұрын
Sig did produced a similar P210 carry years ago. It’s the P225-A2. My wife, who never shot a pistol before shredded the x-ring with a totally beat up P225 pistol during a CCW course. Sig realized they made a gem of a firearm and decided to enhance their pistols with the feature set of the P225-A2 and come out with their Legion series. Can’t go wrong with an all metal hammer fired Sig pistol. I would love to own a P210.
@nikik5567
@nikik5567 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure how that’s a p210?
@subwichman
@subwichman 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikik5567 nah i'm pretty sure
@nikik5567
@nikik5567 2 жыл бұрын
@@subwichman how tho? Other than it being a single stack 9mm, it’s nothing like the P210. The slide configuration is wrong, the frame is wrong, and it’s normally a Double action/ Single action gun instead of Single action only like the P210 is.
@subwichman
@subwichman 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikik5567 how? because. 👈👈😎
@Quality_Guru
@Quality_Guru 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikik5567 Its like a P210 CARRY not a P210 Full size, unless you like carrying a full size P210.
@kentwilliams4152
@kentwilliams4152 2 жыл бұрын
It is very practical. As Col. Cooper used to say, “Large magazines are great if you plan to miss a lot.” Amen.
@dannny9059
@dannny9059 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you tested it sideways for guaranteed kill shot accuracy
@tonyromano6220
@tonyromano6220 2 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@XSpider209x
@XSpider209x 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@adamrobbins2091
@adamrobbins2091 2 жыл бұрын
Must
@TobySchnoodle
@TobySchnoodle 2 жыл бұрын
I guess you have never been in the military…..check all weapons to make sure they fire when you are on your side and won’t jam or stovepipe….sheeesh
@alejandres26
@alejandres26 2 жыл бұрын
For all the gangsta patriots out there!
@derweibhai
@derweibhai 2 жыл бұрын
I use the P-210a as a duty pistol. Switched from a custom 1911, and dont regret it. The 210 is so smooth and accurate that the 1911 cant compete. Just waiting for Grayguns to start selling the short reset kit.
@chriss4325
@chriss4325 2 жыл бұрын
my 365XL had the same return to battery issue, but flawless after 34 rounds.
@Amac1825
@Amac1825 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos to whoever does your sound design. Sounds better and better each vid.
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 2 жыл бұрын
I edit all of my videos personally, still learning
@nathanbanks7091
@nathanbanks7091 2 жыл бұрын
An old friend of mine recently purchased a P-210 A. The action cycles like butter, the trigger is VERY nice, and it shoots tiny groups at our local 16 yard indoor range. He he has had an itch for a 1911 for a long while, but this scratched it, without having to purchase new dies and other reloading components. It made my new Gen 5 Glock 19 feel like a cheap piece of garbage when shot side by side.
@oskar6661
@oskar6661 2 жыл бұрын
In my old agency we used the "barbeque" gun term, and it was just that. Considering our average four-person table a restaurant was carrying...four concealed handguns, if we went to an all-agency affair you brought your tuxedo gun as a conversation piece, and were less concerned because there were 20 other shooters in the room. As you say, a "low risk" affair.
@HanGhost99
@HanGhost99 2 жыл бұрын
For me a tuxedo gun is the 340pd, small and effective with 5 rounds of either .38 or .357 magnum, plus I can carry extra strip rounds if need be
@HanGhost99
@HanGhost99 2 жыл бұрын
@@benjamin3290 yeah recoil with the .357 on the gun is brutal which is why .38 is good enough and if you want to spice it up you could put the first 2 rounds .38 then one .357 and the rest .38 after that Or maybe even first four being .38 and the last .357 for a good critical at the end
@Allen338LM
@Allen338LM 2 жыл бұрын
Tfb tv has hands down the most epic intro and outro music on KZbin no matter what the channel is
@AndrewNguyenOfficial
@AndrewNguyenOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Finally! Been checking almost everyday for this video for the past week or two. Definitely interested in picking up one of these. Checks all the boxes I'm looking for and none I don't care about. Also, I agree about the grips. It needs to be classy, not tactical.
@micksimmons8644
@micksimmons8644 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think their will be an option to put the classy grips on? Maybe aftermarket soon? I agree with your comment. This is art.
@AndrewNguyenOfficial
@AndrewNguyenOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
@@micksimmons8644 If Sig listens to their consumers and there's a big enough need, I can see them releasing one. If not, I'm sure an aftermarket company will happily fill the void. We'll just have to wait and see till then, but I'm happy to see you feel the same about the 210 Carry!
@e.z.hernandez6378
@e.z.hernandez6378 2 жыл бұрын
Yanking that spare mag out of them dangerously short shorts without dropping your coin purse down a pant leg is legendary. Must have been cold as hell in there.
@Roustermiller
@Roustermiller 2 жыл бұрын
Great review would love to see your input on the springfield hellcat pro
@Oct14cya
@Oct14cya 2 жыл бұрын
My first time handling and shooting a SiG 210 it had a suppressor on it. Big fun!
@msims1250
@msims1250 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, James. I can’t wait to get my hands on a P210 Carry.
@NativeTexMexican
@NativeTexMexican 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this for years! Thanks gun shorts. 👊😁
@sbrunscheon
@sbrunscheon 2 жыл бұрын
At least now we know why James is banned from Starbucks
@justinm.791
@justinm.791 2 жыл бұрын
I LOOOVE modern firearms..and I'd LOOOVE to have one of these. I can appreciate what it offers and it's limitations.
@dansherman1980
@dansherman1980 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the older ones they’re tighter fitting, the trigger was different, and made a unique sound when racking it back.
@jjames2162
@jjames2162 2 жыл бұрын
I really watch these videos for the humor - he’s pretty funny thankfully. So many gun channels take themselves too seriously where 99.9% of viewers and youtubers are just range pigeons
@NihilistDad
@NihilistDad 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the forward honesty about carrying good looking guns
@williamphillip9749
@williamphillip9749 2 жыл бұрын
I knew James would review this gun as soon as I saw the thumbnail…. Definitely his style
@treypelham5515
@treypelham5515 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not a closet 1911 guy but a Beretta 92 lover who will be buying this 210 for EDC.
@ArmyHumveeLaat
@ArmyHumveeLaat 2 жыл бұрын
2:36 the most brilliant line from a gun guy I've ever heard. The most genious one, and the most honest one. And one I am absolutely agree with
@ArmyHumveeLaat
@ArmyHumveeLaat 2 жыл бұрын
primary reason is cause guns are passion, but not the thoughts of possible situation where you'll have to use it. nobody wants that
@MDpolo
@MDpolo 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking at one a few days ago. I did not purchase it, yet. It does feel fantastic in my hand. Thank you very much for another well done and informative video.
@philippjulien8549
@philippjulien8549 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, do you recommend this pistol for someone with small to medium size hands? My glove size is 8-8.5. A penny for your thoughts. Best from Germany,
@ruuzulu8814
@ruuzulu8814 2 жыл бұрын
Has nothing to do with this video but I have been reading the jack Carr books and the main characters name is James Reece. My brain automatically changes this to James reeves which puts a face to a book character which isn’t a bad thing but goddamnit every time he’s doing something badass in the book I just picture him in those shorty shorts James wears….. goddamn you James reeves.
@33Luger
@33Luger 2 жыл бұрын
Funny!
@thelastsignature
@thelastsignature 2 жыл бұрын
Ty for this one really stoked you put this out
@nighttrucker9781
@nighttrucker9781 2 жыл бұрын
I always have to make sure I'm alone when I watch any TFBTV review that James does, otherwise my wife gets too excited by the short shorts
@brandonrupp5880
@brandonrupp5880 2 жыл бұрын
I've never wanted to be a barista, but the idea of a slap on the butt from James has me rethinking my choice of carriers.
@yetiskies9240
@yetiskies9240 2 жыл бұрын
The P210 carry with walnut grips would be awesome. Great review!
@roccoc.8425
@roccoc.8425 2 жыл бұрын
Have an original swiss model, shot a coatimundi with it … he ran up a tree and deficated uncontrollably, i felt so bad i traded it for an HK p7…. Great video God Bless.
@jmort39
@jmort39 2 жыл бұрын
Be nice if hk reintroduced the p7, loving the retro gun revival
@davem2369
@davem2369 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised that no-one has tried to manufacture a replica, either classic or modernised. Also a small bit of rail would provide more metal as a heat sink. I know there's photos out there of a railed P7 that was someone custom build.
@MrKook
@MrKook 2 жыл бұрын
My tuxedo gun is a Cz P-01. It's basically a double-stack, alloy framed P210.
@robertrishel3685
@robertrishel3685 2 жыл бұрын
Browning Hipower is my favorite “tuxedo gun”.
@timothywidner4937
@timothywidner4937 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't started using an optic yet. I'm still masting iron sights on a pistol for self defense. Plus less things to worry about
@ccjacks3
@ccjacks3 2 жыл бұрын
We definitely need a revised micro compact comparison video update with that Gun Shorts flare
@Jonadab7
@Jonadab7 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video, and loved your 3 point keys to smart self defense!
@Pozilla-xh8xv
@Pozilla-xh8xv 2 жыл бұрын
First gun I drooled over in a magazine back in the 80’s
@daniellong2100
@daniellong2100 2 жыл бұрын
4000rds of brass;steel,aluminum,fmj,HP and copper screwdrivers heads. Zero malfunction.insane trujgger and accuracy. Dislike 3 dot night sights.put SIG X-RAY NUMBER 8. Heavy. Yah and holsters a bit challenging. Carry it most days and love it.
@nunyabusiness2444
@nunyabusiness2444 Жыл бұрын
So nice to see videos like this to show the plebes what they're missing. Just because you live in a trailer, doesn't mean you can't know what a nice house looks like
@Barbaroossa
@Barbaroossa 2 жыл бұрын
"The trigger breaks like a crack pipe" - why is this analogy so relatable?
@justinspringstun5836
@justinspringstun5836 2 жыл бұрын
Ah but “Cult of the P-7” is one of HP Lovecraft’s best books!
@240pixel
@240pixel 2 жыл бұрын
The original Swiss P210 was great. Had a chance to shoot it many years ago. Sadly current reproduction P210 isn't on the same level of fit and finish as the OG one. Some variants I've handled while selling guns here in United States didn't even want to fully go into battery without me pushing on the slide. That isn't great for pistol with such price tag.
@noquartergiven7789
@noquartergiven7789 2 жыл бұрын
That's bizarre. The ones I've seen, mainly the target version, have been fantastically fitted and finished.
@ohtehlolz
@ohtehlolz 2 жыл бұрын
Thats odd, my American target is phenomenal. I've only got about 700 rounds through it though. I've not had it very long.
@aaronjohnson8575
@aaronjohnson8575 2 жыл бұрын
The p210 carry in the shop where I work has the battery issue you mentioned. I have a feeling putting a few rounds through it will smooth that right out.
@240pixel
@240pixel 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronjohnson8575 I don't think that issue causes any reliability issues per say but for the price tag one reasonably would have higher expectations. And from my experience with the original vintage P210, current US produced ones don't live up to the legacy.
@aaronjohnson8575
@aaronjohnson8575 2 жыл бұрын
@@240pixel I know where you're coming from. The first couple P320 X Five Legions we got were the same way. I'm not exactly sure what's causing that. I must say though that I have shot an X Five Legion and they're fantastic.
@mhedden033
@mhedden033 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't carry a p210 Carry over my p365xl, but if it fits in the ccp box I would definitely pick one up for IDPA.
@garyK.45ACP
@garyK.45ACP 2 жыл бұрын
My tuxedo guns: Walther PPKs .380, Browning Model 1955 .380 (US version of the FN 1910), Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless .32 ACP. And I actually use these for formal occasions with low chance of "needing" a gun where I actually wear a tuxedo, or at least a suit and tie. Small, relatively light, flat, easy to conceal are the order of the day, and classic black on black finish/grips for understated elegance. IMO the P210 Carry is too large for a tuxedo gun. The P210 is a beautiful handgun, maybe the best 9mm semi-auto ever. I hope they didn't trade the quality for lower price, it looks like they kept the accuracy! Better that this be an EDC for someone for whom price is not an obstacle. Definitely comparable to a high end 1911 for those who want that type of gun
@Zundfolge
@Zundfolge 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, but still needs a set of Nills to be right.
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 2 жыл бұрын
A man of culture I see
@joeamen1
@joeamen1 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they made a version with slimmer grips and took P320 mags.
@aaronfarnsworth7653
@aaronfarnsworth7653 2 жыл бұрын
Better with a 365 type magazine. It could stay as close to the single stack grip frame size as possible that way. I'd also want a 1913 rail, fully adjustable sights, extended or threaded barrel, extend the slide and frame to fully enclose the hammer and leave plenty of area on the slide to mount any known optic on the market. I'll decline James' stern suggestion to strike an innocent appendage.
@bradwiller7706
@bradwiller7706 2 жыл бұрын
It's normal for a hi end gun to have a 100-300rd break in period. I had a 1911 les bear and a few STI 2011s that require it in their owner manual. Tight tolerances with that glass on glass feel is my jam..
@barneymiller7894
@barneymiller7894 2 жыл бұрын
This is gonna sound weird, but if your willing to drop that big of money on guns and close tolerances with great feel are your thing I have a suggestion for another object you might love. Look into Chris Reeve Knives, might go with your flow 🤷‍♂️
@cheesegyoza
@cheesegyoza 2 жыл бұрын
I got to hold a P-210 carry today after a couple of years of it being announced and it feels great!
@nonyabiz9487
@nonyabiz9487 2 жыл бұрын
I have messed with the new SIg P210 and the best way to put it is like shooting the sweetest triggered most accurate 9mm 1911 you ever shot in your life but its not a 1911.
@stevegant7286
@stevegant7286 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful pistol, I would love to add the Sig P210 to my collection!
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@1972glm
@1972glm 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for this one for a while
@bottomlinebassin2001
@bottomlinebassin2001 2 жыл бұрын
I fell in love with the P210 target when H45 shot it, the carry looks just as sweet.
@jkconner9636
@jkconner9636 2 жыл бұрын
Have the p210 target, it’s a work of art, smooth as butter & incredibly accurate. Would love to have the carry version. Having said that, wouldn’t necessarily be my edc. Don’t see it replacing my EMP.
@Chironex_Fleckeri
@Chironex_Fleckeri 2 жыл бұрын
What is an EMP in CCW terms?
@jkconner9636
@jkconner9636 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chironex_Fleckeri I carry the Springfield 1911 Ronin EMP…EMP is “enhanced micro pistol “ I think 🤔. They trimmed the dimensions down & lowered the weight so it’s a great carry
@Chironex_Fleckeri
@Chironex_Fleckeri 2 жыл бұрын
@@jkconner9636 Nice. I'll have to add that to list. Gotta narrow it down. I think a .22lr is what I'm gonna use to practice my basic handling skills, accuracy, and good safety practices. But then I'd want to carry something in 9mm or .380 most likely once I've mastered the basics. Thanks for your reply brother
@jehoiakimelidoronila5450
@jehoiakimelidoronila5450 2 жыл бұрын
Also i like how straight and aesthetically plain the slide and frame (front portion at least) combination is; matched up with the smoothly-curved grip 👌😌💯
@sgtmajtrapp3391
@sgtmajtrapp3391 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive classic. I had an older P210 but traded it. I like this variant and have been waiting for its release. Thanks for reviewing it.
@skookapalooza2016
@skookapalooza2016 2 жыл бұрын
It would have looked more like the original if they had cut off the frame the same depth as the original. How about a rail on the bottom while they're at it? How about a double or 1 1/2 stack mag? By the way: The 1911 for guys who don't want to admit they are 1911 guys would be the P220 single action only variant.
@FCV0511
@FCV0511 2 жыл бұрын
I wish the beavertail wasn't so aggressive (I think it does a disservice to the looks of the gun from the side), I wish they kept the tapered frame-into-slide look at the business end of the full sized model, it could've used some flashier/wood grips, and they could have increased capacity, but I'm glad that Sig is offering this. The Tuxedo Gun category is one that I've always been fond of. Function over form is one thing, but a stylish form can sure be a difficult thing to tear your affection away from. From the Kahr K9 to this P210, tuxedo guns will always have a place in my heart and safe.
@barneymiller7894
@barneymiller7894 2 жыл бұрын
A gunsmith can fix the beavertail
@randellbrazier7081
@randellbrazier7081 2 жыл бұрын
Having an issue with my New P210 carry model. Whenever I load a full magazine into my P210 and rack the slide to make the weapon hot if I then eject the magazine to do a tactical re-load to top off the magazine a round falls out of the magazine. This is a regular occurrence. The P210 has never malfunctioned during firing but will almost always drop a round out of the magazine after charging the weapon and hitting the magazine release.
@leepeffer1304
@leepeffer1304 2 жыл бұрын
I love seeing the Eforms ads as I sit on 220+ days I have been pending.
@ClassicAirsoft
@ClassicAirsoft 2 жыл бұрын
I own a old P210 kinda love it ! See a new 210 is very nice ! Hope it comes to germany also
@boris1779
@boris1779 2 жыл бұрын
I own one P210 carry slide is stiff and Squeaky , magazine work like cheapest 1911. Stove pipe first 50 bullets .Planing to exchange frame with my P210 Target . New fiber front side and rear. After go back home and take down the slide , Recoil spring and try to remove barrel find out it Barely moves. Clean up everything dry find deep Scratches left and right on Square part of the barrel . Deep Imprint mark on slide to. Got P210 Target more than 2000 bullets no even scratch on internals.
@andrewdunnam608
@andrewdunnam608 2 жыл бұрын
Did you see how James hit the bullseye? Their video editing is getting REALLY good.
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 2 жыл бұрын
My tuxedo guns: Walther First Edition PPK/S in .380, Beretta Tomcat in .32 Auto, and, if the bad guys will be attending, Browning BDA in .380. All look the part, but none are in my normal carry line-up.
@carlpaladino427
@carlpaladino427 2 жыл бұрын
Just got to handle one at my LGS. Really liked it and this confirms my interest.
@Ericthered21
@Ericthered21 2 жыл бұрын
I got perfect analogy for black suit gun / carry gun. One is a Porsche and the other Subaru STI. Equally fast just one will impress more of your golfing buddies
@philclodfelter5994
@philclodfelter5994 2 жыл бұрын
SIG P320 Spectre Comp need to do a review on that one
@hivelsword
@hivelsword 2 жыл бұрын
Grayguns has 10 round mags for these. Does incredible work on them. And yes, making them even more expensive. Personally I wouldn’t carry these without the 10 round mags. But I “would” carry it. Would even butcher one for a compact red dot (Holosun 507)
@hivelsword
@hivelsword 2 жыл бұрын
And yeah, punched myself in the dick. I would still pay for the cut tho.
@Lester.M
@Lester.M 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, thank you!
@varanid9
@varanid9 2 жыл бұрын
I recall, the first time I picked up Sig Sauer's then new P210, thinking that, with a shorter slide, it would point and balance very much like my beloved HK P-7. Everybody should own at least one premium firearm.
@spudboyQ
@spudboyQ 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Nice work.
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@spudboyQ
@spudboyQ 2 жыл бұрын
@@tfbtv always friend. At the risk of additional head expansion, you are a hands down favorite of mine. I can almost justify it as time well spent.
@herosupport1606
@herosupport1606 2 жыл бұрын
why didn't they do a double stack update to the gun?
@pcrealty
@pcrealty 2 жыл бұрын
My tuxedo weapon is the Sig Sauer P365XL Spectre Compensator with a Lima Laser / Romero Zero sights.
@Dvst8ingbuzz
@Dvst8ingbuzz 2 жыл бұрын
Great review as always
@everydaycarrymonkey2691
@everydaycarrymonkey2691 2 жыл бұрын
If I'd have known that single stack handguns were making a comeback I'd have never traded my Hi Point to that Appalachian stripper for three magic Corn Nuts...
@brownmangaming1529
@brownmangaming1529 2 жыл бұрын
9 round capacity? Is it 1915?
@bombacimulayim1453
@bombacimulayim1453 2 ай бұрын
50m groups both ?
@SolFireYT
@SolFireYT 2 жыл бұрын
Rule number 1 is hilariously practical best rule number 1 I’ve heard
@timg7627
@timg7627 2 жыл бұрын
Does this one have that innovative new feature that’s showing up on many other Sigs? You know, the one where the gun fires on its own when in a holster? Or how how about the one where it fires if you shake the gun? Both of those are very innovative technology
@erasmojtorres
@erasmojtorres 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I noticed tho you had your left eye closed while shooting with a red dot on the 365, why?
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 2 жыл бұрын
Astigmatism in my left eye
@Billrovid
@Billrovid 2 жыл бұрын
I love single action. I bet its why you were so accurate with it too
@johndeere1951a
@johndeere1951a 11 ай бұрын
...... after all, isnt accuracy, hitting the target THE MOST important point in shooting a pistol ❓❓ Excellent review. One should watch this after your first review 3 years ago visiting Sig's office. 👍👍
@PerfectTangent
@PerfectTangent 2 жыл бұрын
Real high-speeds at weddings carry Whitney Wolverines. Fight me.
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