The Sigma 16-28 Is Fantastic, BUT...

[@JoshCameron]

Do you guys own this lens already? If so, what do you think of it?!

[@PhilHover]

With no 2.8 option from Panasonic. It’s the only option. Seems to work well. Miss 35mm on the tele end.

[@ToddWhiteStudios]

Love it. Great for both stills and video. Love the internal zoom as well. Balance once on gimbal and good to through the full zoom range.

[@roadtobeingapro]

there is an update for this lens, ver.02 released last november 2022, was it able to fix the autofocus (hunting) problem? thank you!

[@jayforcinema]

Thanks Josh! I find the 16 mm a range that I rarely reach out for, so the 20-60 is adequate for most of my wide angle needs. However the 16-28 does seem fantastic and it's definitely on top of my list for any projects that would require a 16-20 mm range.

[@TimRodieDrivesStuff]

The internet needs more videos that are this concise - great video as ever. BTW I finally bought an S5ii and 24-105 this week thanks to you. I've told Panasonic to send you your cut...

[@Healthy_Toki]

How have you liked it?

[@coreymach_]

Thank you, the wobble would kill me for video. You're the only one to really talk about that. Saved me time and money.

[@ShaanWith2As]

I ended up just buying a lot of step up rings and 82mm lens caps, and now all my lenses are permanently 82mm. Has simplified my life and my work greatly, and cost about $20 total!

[@Paslrstudiosphoto]

I love the sigma 16-28 2.8. First lens I picked with my s5ii. Definitely going to be picking up the 28-70 2.8 next. Hope sigma releases a 70-200 f2.8 to complete the L mount trinity.

[@Valerossi0]

would be a perfect trinity for the prices :)

[@MayurMahapatraFilms]

Help me decide between sigma 24-70 and 28-70. I am gonna buy s5M2 for video only.

[@benja1378]

@@MayurMahapatraFilms Josh made a video about this a bit ago :) short: 28-70 has better focus breathing, is lighter and smaller to carry around and still looks great.

[@salat]

Went for the Sigma 14-24mm + 24-70mm ART combo for less compromises on FF. 2mm more on the wide side is a lot. You can only use internal filters in the 14-24mm though. When I think they'd be too heavy I can always either go with the quite good 20-60mm kit lens or switch to MFT instead..

[@reframevideo]

Love this lens, use it for all my real estate stuff. I didn't notice too much wobble even when handheld, but I don't think I was ever fully at 16mm either.

[@drifttokfilms]

from my personal experience that wobble effect came from an in body stabilization mode happened when i was switching modes on my 50mm 1.8 so i had to find the right setting that made it stop the wobble effect

[@dirkziegler9580]

I sold my Sigma 16-28mm for the Lumix 14-28mm. The Sigma is faster but the Lumix is fully weathersealed and has Macro-capabilities. Both lenses have great image quality.

[@maksim5109]

don't you think that the Panasonic 14-28 has a black hole in the shadows? I say based on the KZbin video. Since now I have to choose what buy 14-28 or 16-28.

[@photovilla7570]

Extremely helpful review for me since I DO use a gimbal with my setup. Thanks!

[@formatthitech]

Great review Josh! We love how the 2 lenses stand side by side & cover the full range.

[@JoshCameron]

Really great little duo!

[@MicroFourNerds]

Awesome 😁 I love the sigma quality

[@JoshPostVlogs]

Quick question: like you I have 67mm ND filters. Do you think I could step DOWN to 67mm on this lens or would my filter likely show up in the corners of the image?

[@ChrisGoesOutdoors]

Josh, I use the sigma 16-28 and bought a step down ring from 72 to 67 and use a 67mm 2-5 stop freewell variable nd on the lens. Only see a hint of vignette when I go full onto the 5th step of the filter. If I go 2 to 4.5 stops I have not noticed any issue. May be worth trying out a step down ring if you have a 67mm filter set

[@dannyly]

I bought and returned this lens twice. Image quality was top notch, but the weight, focal range and filter size eventually made me reach for the kit 20-60mm more. I'm looking into the 14-28mm f4-5.6 now.

[@JoshCameron]

If the focal range of the 16-28 wasn't for you then I don't think the 14-28 will be much different to be honest! The 20-60 is such a killer little lens!

[@WeLoveNye]

the weight?? the lens is so light 😂

[@v3zMedia]

Get the Sony 11mm and do clear image zoom to 1.2. Light and sharp asf on the A7iv.

[@kenyakking]

Wide angle lenses usually need larger filters...some 24-70's have an 82mm filter thread 😮 72mm isn't bad...

[@JoshCameron]

It's not so much that 72mm is a bad size, it's just none of my other lenses are 72mm, so therefore it just adds one extra thing to the packing list that could get lost! That's all :)

[@EdProsser]

Gosh these two are a tempting little pair! I've also been finding that with wider focal lengths the IBIS can go a bit bonkers - I've been disabling IBIS on stuff below 30mm generally - wider focal lengths tend to be more forgiving with shake anyway.

[@JoshCameron]

Yeah it gets a bit hairy doesn't it! 😂 Most of the time I tend to leave IBIS on, but then at times like this I realise why it can sometimes be useful to turn it off! Great little pairing though, can have a full lens kit for both photo and video for just £1600 if you buy the two together!

[@zhongjiezheng4646]

That's what she said xD

[@rokah1391]

damn definately my next buy . i was waiting since his release and didnt understand that there is not that much video about it

[@9adriano21]

For vlogging I wish we had something like the Tamron 20-40mm f2.8 for Sony. I like the 20-60mm kit lens but there’s instance where the 5.6 is to dark. Maybe if they made a constant f4 version of it. I have the Sigma 16-28mm but only use it for work (nightlife & events), for personal/vlog use I rather have a zoom with more range.

[@miguelm4380]

Hi! Thanks for the information. I would like to know how does it performs for architecture photos, interiors and things like that. Thanks from Madrid, Spain.

[@LaurenceLee]

This is random but Im getting the s5ii and I'm having a tough time deciding between the 28-70 and the 24-105 + primes for low light. How significant is the difference in stabilization between the Dual I.S. w/ the 24-105 and just IBIS w/ the 28-70 in the s5ii? Great video as always!

[@aylenstudios]

This video sums it up pretty well kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2e0la2IfZ18rcU

[@aylenstudios]

I think the dual stabilisation looks almost gimbal like, but the ibis only still looks very good, just more 'handheld'

[@CLIFFLIX]

It seems that many L-Mount Sigma lenses are crippled with stair-stepping apertures. In auto aperture in video, they open and close and "clunk" on 1/3 stops as the move. On Sony cameras, they do NOT do this. It seems that only Panasonic branded lenses are allowed smooth ramping apertures. Does this lens stair-step its aperture as it opens and closes in video?

[@DidierMOULINPhotography]

Great short review Josh. Thanks. The S Pro 16-35 is interesting in second hand market bellow 1000€ What would you recommend? 16-28 or 16-35 S-Pro? BTW, maybe you will be interested by the 28-105 f/2,8 no?...

[@hansvanderboor1523]

Hello Josh, Do you know anything more about the 70-200mm sigma lens for the L-mount that was announced in the spring? This lens format is still missing from the Sigma L-mount series

[@emiemi8709]

Salve ma l'oscillazione è risolvibile con un firmware?perché è un comportamento veramente strano!grazie

[@mariohazard821]

Have you tried using the step down ring? I also use 28-70 and I have all the filters for this lens and I wonder if there will be vignetting after shooting 67mm ND filter on 16-28mm :)

[@pureheartvisuals]

Josh, I really need your help. Would the LUMIX 18mm f/1.8 really be an improvement vs the Sigma 16-28 f/2.8 for low light gimbal work - such Wedding Receptions? A Wide Lens is the last one I need to decide on.

[@zeneyes]

Great video! How is the focus breathing on both of the Sigma zooms?

[@gaboroot4599]

Hi Josh. thks for the video. Quick question. Lightroom doesn´t have a lens correction profile for this lens. How can i make adjustments and save them for future pictures or can i use another similar profile or what is your opinion? i appreciate if you take minute to help me out. Have a good one :)

[@themotorhomechef]

i have this camera and lens for mostly food shots . photos are great especially colour. just need to add a macro now. either laowa 58mm or sigma 105. which one would you get Josh ?

[@keithanderson908]

I have the Panasonic 16-35 and not impressed at all by it, corner sharpness on a S1R is horrendous and I’m thinking of selling it either for this or primes, I love my Sigma 85 1.4 and tossing up staying with Sigma or going primes like the 18,24 and 35. What’s corner sharpness like on the primes and this zzom

[@frankfeng2701]

I wish it had 67mm filter thread just like 28-70, 20-60, all the f/1.8 primes.

[@matic_horvat]

Is this wobble just present without the cameras stabilization? like a7c 2

[@zeneyes]

Hey Josh, how's the wobble on these with the new firmware update for the S5ii v3.0 and S5iix v2.0?

[@gaboroot4599]

hey Josh, how bad is the vignetting at 16 mm F2.8?

[@nicktheavatar_]

If I use it at 16mm I get a really unbearable wobble when it’s handheld, how do I fix this? I was trying to use this for handheld dance videos and vlogging type videos

[@Flflatflow]

I'm currently debating between this and the S Pro 16-35. Cost aside, I'd prefer the S Pro, but the f4 is a real hang up for me. If you were photographing fast moving objects (young family running around in the evening, or night time action sports) would you go for this because of the f2.8, or stick with the S Pro f4 (assuming price wasn't a factor)?

[@Blackbereh]

How does this lens compare to the EF 16-35mm f2.8? I know you've adapted to EF on the S5ii with the Sigma MC-21 so you're one of the few people who might be able to compare! The extra range of the EF 16-35mm is really enticing, but I'm concerned about image quality and autofocus, as well as balancing/weight with the adapter at the end! I shoot 4k 60fps for sports in really tight environments, but also want to use the same lens for medium shots, so with the 1.5X crop, it would end up being 28-52mm which would be great!

[@madmikeprods]

Canon + price + weight. Sigma + ergonomic + cheap

[@astrayproductions]

Do u reckon if the wobble will be better on Sony mirrorless cams instead of the lumix?

[@maksim5109]

what do you think of panasonic 14-28?

[@Lunar_Films]

Would the wobble still be there if you shoot in APS C?

[@sohrubjoshi5189]

Will it be good with S9 ?

[@raksh9]

Just wondering if you've tried the Sigma 24-70, and if so, how does the 28-70 compare in terms of image quality? By the way, the Phantom LUT colour looks so good! I bought the Gamut LUTs as per your earlier recommendation, I might as well try the Phantom LUTs, too.

[@Arkadiusz4321]

Do you know that wobble issue still occurs after s5ii update? I think to get this lens as an extend to my 28-70.

[@JoshCameron]

I'm not too sure. I'd love to test it but I don't have the 16-28 anymore!

[@garreswe]

Before buying this lens I was checking online for videos and was surprised you hadn't made a video with it. Well, I bought it and I'm super happy. It's a bit annoying that it doesn't share the same thread size with 28-70 but everything in life can't be perfect, right?

[@JoshCameron]

If everything was perfect then we wouldn't know it anyways as it's the small inconveniences that make us appreciate the small wins!

[@MarioBeatricePv]

Works with face/eye recognition?

[@vanraz]

Hey Josh, it might be me but, the "esses" in this video seem very high pitched.

[@ToddWhiteStudios]

Curious. What do you think of the stills image quality of the 28-70? I have it and find it to be soft. Video is great and sharp but not confident with it on photos. Curious of your experience.

[@JoshCameron]

My copy has always been super sharp and very pleasing for both photo and video! Maybe get in touch with the retailer you got yours from and report a defect?

[@stevennorel3859]

I really want to purchase that one ! But I was wondering if you have noticed any vignetting on the hedges between 16mm to 20mm while using several filters at the same time like a cpl filter + variable nd filter ? Btw nice video ! Really like your review :)

[@Whatsup_Abroad]

a circular polarizer can't be used in conjunction with a variable ND filter.....Variable NDs work by overlaying 2 cpl, adding a 3rd to the mix wouldn't achieve any desirable effects whatsoever.

[@반정우-haha]

Less distortion than 1635g F4??

[@unickolay]

Hi, Josh! My question is: what ultrawide lens for L mount has the most sharpness? And low distortion: Sigma 16-28/2.8 Panasonic 18/1.8 Sigma 14/1.8? What is the best for photo and video in your opinion?

[@DidierMOULINPhotography]

Hello : most sharpness and low distortion : LEICA SL 16-35 mm without any doubt.

[@unickolay]

@@DidierMOULINPhotography but probably it’s very expensive, as any Leica. I want to buy the lense not more expensive, than 1000 euro

[@DidierMOULINPhotography]

@@unickolay I think the S-Pro 16-35 f/4 on second hand market would be the best

[@unickolay]

@@DidierMOULINPhotography why? Why it would be better than Sigma 16-28/2.8, Panasonic 18/1.8, sigma 14/1.8? Do you have telegram or what’s up to discuss this question? I have Panasonic S5 II, S5, S1, Panasonic 70-200/2.8, 70-200/4, 50/1.8, sigma 28-70/2.8

[@DidierMOULINPhotography]

@@unickolay I’m not sure at all It’s an assomption because it’s the closest to the Leica 16-35 as far as I have read I wish I could test one to compare it to my Leica 16-35. But by now, we can see that any new lenses is close to perfection. It will be a story of details. Sun stars Chromatic aberrations Distorsion Vigneting Microncontrast Fix or variable aperture …. To be able to decide you need to test all for side by side 😅

[@herojaspers]

Hi Josh, maybe you know this: I need to buy good SD cards for my Lumix s5iiX. But I want to buy CF Express cards. Do these cards also go in the s5iiX? I can't find it anywhere on Google... Hope you can help! Thanks :)

[@JoshCameron]

Hey, the S5IIX features dual SD card slots , so CF Express, CFast etc won’t be compatible :)

[@madmikeprods]

bro tienes la S5iiX... SSD XD

[@sethrealawesome6328]

Very nice review and information defintally going to look into this. Just a question i am currnetly shooting on a s1 and the 4k 50p settings have a crop. What will the mm be of the 16mm if i use it with the 4k crop?

[@ThePistonPit]

24mm

[@ValeandSa]

Hi Josh! I had the sigma 16-28 but returned it a few days later because I prefer having the extra 7mm than one stop of aperture so I got the lumix 16-35 f4. I love this lens I find it to work perfectly with the S5ii in autofocus. Anyway the sigma is a great lens, sharpness and overall performance is great just one thing I noticed it seems to be a little noisier,just a tiny bit,in autofocus compared to lumix lenses. Did you experience that too? Keep it up 😊

[@lifeofdang92]

Do you think f4 is enough?

[@ValeandSa]

@@lifeofdang92 in my use case yes, even if it’s a little dark I bump the ISO up to 5000 and don’t even need to apply noise reduction with the S5 or S5ii. One stop doesn’t make a huge difference to me but 7mm on the long end yes 😊

[@lifeofdang92]

@@ValeandSa yes I used to own 17-28 tamron when shooting with Sony but I dont really like that wide and sometime 28mm even not enough. Wish sigma come up with the 20-40 2.8 like tamrom

[@watsonYuri]

Did you compared the wobble because Sigma 16-28 is very hard to use handheld with ibis on. So much corner wobbling.

[@_lecoupdepouce]

Do you guys know if on the Sony FX3 or A7S3 it wobbles as well ?

[@WeLoveNye]

it doesnt i have one n never had that issue

[@cezar_visual_artist]

Is the 28 70 a better pick than the sigma 24 70?

[@JoshCameron]

For me , yes! It’s lighter, cheaper, and has the same optics :)

[@cezar_visual_artist]

@@JoshCameron cool. I am thinking of upgrade to S5 and was thinking about what lens

[@owlmostdead9492]

My only concern is with the weather sealing, it's really putting me off.

[@mudgie069]

If your on a real budget get the sigma mc-21 and canon 17-40 f/4 L. If you look about you can get the adapter and lens for around £300 second hand. Nice video.

[@madmikeprods]

Por peso y luminosidad me quedo con el 16-28 f2.8

[@garreswe]

Sigma is having a cashback offer for this lens right now, at least in Sweden. Maybe in other EU countries as well?

[@JoshCameron]

Yeah there's cashback here in the UK :)

[@xaviergut8232]

But you know the 14-28mm of Lumix, right?

[@DavidBravoG6]

I'm just trying to decide between the sigma 16-28mm f 2.8 and the lumix 14-28mm. I am looking for a wide angle L mount and I have the final doubt between those two😔the 14-28mm lumix lens is macro and 2mm more but it is half blind, while the 16-28mm sigma is much brighter, but loses the " macro" and 2mm. Hard decision

[@xaviergut8232]

@@DavidBravoG6 me too, I think the price is similar...

[@rxishere]

I'm also deciding these two... hard choice, what's your final decision?@@DavidBravoG6

[@daliyoung]

@@DavidBravoG6i’m literally down the lens research spiral right now and am indecisive between these two for the exact same reasons..

[@harryvlogs7833]

What autofocus speed settings would you use on the s5 mk1 if you where doing bird photography?

[@maksim5109]

it is not very comfortable to listen to you. You speak very fast as if you are late for a plane.

[@JoshCameron]

It's something I've been working on - if you watch my later videos, you'll see that I've been actively making the effort to slow down and make my presentation clearer. Thanks for the feedback though, I really appreciate it :)

[@strippedlist]

The wobble is because of the IBIS not because of the lens, and oh my god, you had to buy a step=up ring...the trauma, the drama...the therapy you will need, poor soul