The Smash 64 Move That Got Destroyed

The Evolution of Captain Falcon's Up Smash and all its (former) Glory.
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[@bigredradish]

it's like sakurai put in a KOF close heavy but you can do it literally anywhere. nightmare

[@DisabledsDie]

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[@RTU130]

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[@Printerpenguin]

Smash went from falcon's up smash pretty much being an up tilt in 64, to snake's up tilt pretty much being an up smash in brawl

[@joshithehealermii5230]

A really cool thing about this Falcon is that he's the closest archive we'll ever have of Smash 64 before it even was a crossover fighting game, back when the prototype was just a bunch of faceless humanoid guys called "Dragon King", his model and some of his moves look very similar to some of the ones seen in the screenshots of said prototype

[@ehhorve857]

dude, don't you know? dragon king was added to smash remix! oh, wait, context, so a while back, a modder said to himself "y'know what? I wanna add ganondorf to smash 64." by doing that, he began a domino effect that attracted a BUNCH of modders to keep adding and fixing things into 64, so much so that 64 is now the most customizable game in the series now. some time later, sakurai himself (the hack) posted a video about the 'dragon king' prototype, and gave JUST enough animations for the remix team to add dragon king in the final remix update. it turns out that dragon king is more similar to mario.

[@joshithehealermii5230]

​@@ehhorve857That's really awesome, I had heard of Smash Remix but I had no idea they had added Dragon King as a fighter!

[@ehhorve857]

@@joshithehealermii5230 yep, he's in 1.5.0, and fantastic.

[@DisabledsDie]

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[@DisabledsDie]

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[@abandonedrocketship]

Your script is noticeably tighter here than in a lot of your past vids, great work!

[@TommasoGabisi]

There's exactly 1 smash attack that is just as fast as this, and that is meta knight's down smash in ultimate

[@tenenbaummark]

I thought that was frame 3?

[@limerplaz8208]

@@tenenbaummarkno it is frame 4

[@uraninezak]

In Melee, Zelda's down smash also comes out on frame 4 with her leg intangible the duration of the attack hitboxes. It's just no one uses Zelda so no one knows her down smash is frame 4 and her up smash is frame 5. Both got nerfed in speed in future games.

[@Sunray625]

​@@uraninezakzelda is my goat Her down smash is really fun because while it is weak it sends in a very bad angle so you get to edge guard from it

[@mathprince3655]

and in brawl... and in sm4sh... so like... definitely not exactly 1 😭

[@mandalorianhunter1]

Yeah I miss his combo starter up Smash. Sakura definitely wanted Falcon to be a combo machine from his up smash, forward throw, up air and more. He was just cooking with Falcon in 64. One of my favorite versions of the character.

[@DisabledsDie]

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[@BronzeAgePepper]

Very recently, I tried out Smash64 at a big tournament, as someone who's played casual Smash ever since the first game came out, started getting on-and-off competitively with different games and mods ever since discovering Project M around the time of v2.5, and got a newfound appreciation for the original from playing a lot of Smash Remix. C. Falcon was the one I used in the round robin bracket along with Fox, I was definitely learning the absolutely brutal nature of the competitive game as I played and while I had some fun sets, my final placing was abysmal. After seeing what he was capable of with that move by players who actually knew what they were doing, I dubbed his Up Smash the "party starter" and was in shambles feeling like I played him all wrong. Forward throw and dair were the combo starters I tried abusing whillst unaware there was an equally good third option the whole time.

[@eclipse_434]

Early on in PM's development, I floated the idea of giving Falcon's N64 up smash to Ganon as well as changing Falcon's forward smash to his original N64 version. These ideas never made it past the cutting room floor, but many of my other ideas did.

[@BuddyHolly94-e4j]

Captain Falcon is one of my mains in SB64 and his up smash is awesome great vid Honest!

[@dillpicklestudios4319]

I never knew that that move was Falcon’s upsmash, I thought that they had just changed his up-tilt after 64

[@DisabledsDie]

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[@SomtoNwoke]

falcon's upair in 64 is his best move, hands down

[@TylerMcNamer]

That's one strong elbow.

[@tashi321]

bro i thought that was his uptilt LMAO that move is crazy

[@riboiman4005]

As a Falcon main in Smash 64, his up-smash feels like a busted up-tilt

[@slenderMax28]

I grew up on 64 and I've never liked Falcon as much in any of the other games.

[@Noob-uz6by]

One reason why his up smash is so good is because of 64s hitstun allowing falcon to pretty much follow up with anything while later games have a lot less hitstun so it might have been possibly a good change otherwise it wouldn't be able to combo into anything and even get falcon punished

[@someguy1ification]

*looks at title Oh, I bet it's about Luigi's up+b! It was not about Luigi's up+b.

[@Nintendude.]

Justice for Captain Falcon!!!

[@samuelmcclamrock162]

It took them 4 games but eventually in ultimate that up smash became goated

[@Monhamd1000]

They should bring it in the next Smash game.

[@its_hokori]

I miss ssb64 falcon's FSmash as well. It's so much better than the elbow and punch imo

[@ScarletTalks]

Best day to get a stomachache and a headache in the morning on a wensday before school in a hour ever

[@kenshiro8984]

something that can be said about brawl falcon's usmash that gives it some niche is that he slides a lot when doing dash -> usmash. Can whiff punish to kill... sometimes.

[@ProfessorHeavy1]

Intro talking about the title when the thumbnail is *right there* is crazy. Havent even started so I wonder if I was duped.

[@Nintendude.]

Not only did he lost a fast Up Smash. Can you talk about Captain Falcon's Melee Raptor Boost which can avoid projectiles like Samus Fully Charge Shot but got nerf in other games. Justice for Captain Falcon!!!

[@limerplaz8208]

I thought it was gonna be falcon punch.

[@mxcascade]

oh my god what i thought that was some old up tilt 64 is wild lmao

[@lickagoat]

Shout out to smash 64 falcon who has true combos into falcon punch, especially against yoshi.

[@dr.wolfstar1765]

Everyones Down A Down A was AMMMMAZzzzING is N64 for basically everyone Now everyones down A has way too much start up

[@personallypeson1007]

There is only 1 smash attack in the the entirety of smash that’s faster than this and that’s meta knights down smash which is Frame 3 (atleast in ultimate don’t know if it’s the same in 4 and brawl)

[@Bubberonii]

While it may have became a worse move in Melee... it is WAY cooler to do a combo with it in Melee!

[@Metalc]

Smash 64 hit stun never fails to shock me. Like, how is this real?

[@BigNoseEntmt]

I always thought it was a punch!!!

[@Jaqs752]

reminds me of smash 4 mario uptilt

[@KeyboardKlutz_0]

i thought this would be about the falcon punch

[@ZachHonest]

Falcon Punch is crazy in this game too (64)

[@soulrebellion]

Diddy's U Smash is just as fast

[@elibonham4388]

If he had the upsmash in meleehe would've actually had a good out of shield game notice it hits behind him and if side b hit ledge and didn't put you in free fall after hit on opponent and up b killed. Falcon wouldve been top 3

[@KiwiAsh]

Am i the only one who though it was a tilt because of how fast it is?

[@Classifed_Vibezz]

W VIDEO

[@aplsed]

Even tho I started off with Brawl -like everyone else,- I honestly never liked how they reworked Falcon for Melee after 64. Everything in 64 felt like it meshed perfectly with itself, and combos are super satisfying to pull off. But then they took all of that away, and yeah, his combo game is still there, but he's just....different.

[@TramiNguyen-oi3kp]

Kirby

[@projectikaruga]

FRAME 4! LOL

[@f-gamer7880]

Meta knight down smash in ultimate is frame 4🤷

[@Aio-Project]

dishonest content do your research lol