The Smoak Stack Headlines of the Day | Pac-12 | MWC | UNLV | USAF

The Smoak Stack Headlines of the Day | Pac-12 | MWC | UNLV | USAF | Texas State

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@kwikdraw01 Ай бұрын

The reason the PAC12 wanted the top schools was to get a good media deal. That's why they took this approach. It had nothing to do with "I'm better than you, you guys are beneath us". This was strictly to put the best teams in one conference to compete for a good media deal. I think the AAC understood this but the exit fees were just to much. If the PAC12 would have offered to pay the fees all 4 teams would have jumped.

@STC987 Ай бұрын

100%. It amazes me how people cannot figure out why they don’t want certain schools. It’s the same thing that happens all the time. Why take additional schools that lower the average payout? It has nothing to do with arrogance or thinking you are better. It’s business. And the AAC schools would certainly be gone if the Pac, or someone else, paid the exit fees. Why Memphis, or anyone signed a deal with such insane exit fees is insane.

@apena2005 Ай бұрын

@@STC987 the exit fee for the AAC is negotiable. 25 mil was leaked by the AAC as strategy but the actual fee is negotiable. SMU paid that cause they left so quick

@STC987 Ай бұрын

@@apena2005 I would honestly just move on and add a team or two in football and then concentrate on adding schools for basketball. I think it is undervalued how much extra revenue can be brought in by tournament bids, and long runs into the tournament.

@michaelwall3393 Ай бұрын

No that is incredibly incorrect and false. It was (we are better than you and taking who we want when we want) approach and arrogant attitude.

@PCSPounder Ай бұрын

Something just as important… and @STC987 is correct. OSU & WSU may have known that the AAC schools were out of reach. But alumni and donors at both schools demand a fight, an attempt to force something to work at every step. Consider this part of the 5 stages of grief. Thing is… while Texas State seems to be emerging, there might be more money in getting Gonzaga + a school with football and basketball that suits them. Just as important, adding the wrong school means Gonzaga stays put (defined as “lowers the media payout per year for conference schools.”) The previous paragraph, of course, depends on whether Gonzaga hasn’t already given up on joining. But I want to emphasize part of the math involved. The Pac will be paid for After Dark time slots. How will Texas State fit into this? There are only so many football time slots in a weekend… that’s why I say there may be more growth potential in basketball in this situation.

@calebblaser1055 Ай бұрын

Remind me again, how many teams are in the Big Ten and the big 12? How about you just call it the PAC 12 because the numbers are irrelevant and stop being a petty about it. They will get Memphis & Gonzaga, I’ll bet on it.

@TheOceanMan-xc7qp Ай бұрын

PAC did not get all the teams they wanted but they got the best teams from the Mountain West. They just need one more school. They will get a decent tv deal and thus begins a solid rebuild come 2026!

@RavenThom Ай бұрын

you can dress it up all you want, it's still crap

@ABQREDorGREEN Ай бұрын

No they didn't UNLV and AF are much better this year then CSU and SDSU. In a few years it could be UNM and Nevada, colleges winning and losing is cyclical. To Boise's credit they've been solid for a longer period. Fresneck has had some terrible years over the last ten.

@fortran7741 Ай бұрын

Perhaps the PAC can go back to Memphis with a sweeter deal on the exit fees.

@TheOceanMan-xc7qp Ай бұрын

When they win their anti trust suit, they will resume hunting and I think they are not done with Memphis, and the Memphis fans have been vocal about wanting the PAC...time will tell!

@BrentSchmurda Ай бұрын

Memphis AD said no to current deal, not the Pac12 as a whole

@DayOneRob Ай бұрын

Still time to further negotiate.

@Steveb57267 Ай бұрын

Yah that’s a no

@arcostonian Ай бұрын

Agree, let's go back to memphis and sweeten the deal

@STC987 Ай бұрын

At this point, I think it would be better for the Pac to go after schools from the Sun Belt or CUSA. The exit fees are minimal and the TV contracts pay them $2,000,000 and $750,000 respectively. Maybe offer them partial shares of whatever media deal you think you will get, because that will certainly be a lot more than they make now. Offer them a guaranteed minimum that you could afford to pay out of the war chest you have in case the media value is less than expected. The money the Pac could save on giving partial shares can either be distributed to the other members, or even better, go after basketball schools. Adding football schools like Texas State and UTEP, and then a combination of Gonzaga, Saint Mary’s and Grand Canyon University for basketball would not be a terrible situation in my opinion.

@scooberz2015 Ай бұрын

Think ya'll (as many have done) are greatly misunderstanding the gap between the teams that joined the PAC and the rest of the Mountain West. Boise State and SDSU speak for themselves and Fresno State has been at a low - to - mid tier P5 level for some time now. Admidetly Colo St is not, but they got in because of market and potential. Utah State is mostly filler, good filler with a really solid MBB program but still filler. Why would you merge with the MW when you can drop the bottom feeders in exchange for two previous P5 schools who are both playing good football? Is it a seismic jump for the schools involved? No. Is it a CLEAR upgrade? Absolutely.

@matthewbrueckner8374 Ай бұрын

So you will call the 16-team big 12, "the big 12". You will call the 18 team big 10, "the big 10". But you have to call the pac 12, "the pac" because they don't have 12 teams.

@STC987 Ай бұрын

And the “Big 12” had less than 12 for at least a decade. I don’t remember them being called “the Big”.

@arcostonian Ай бұрын

Look, hands down the have the best G5 school in the country... so they will get the 5th bid every year, or mostly. WSU and OSU are now strong teams in their new PAC and themselces have a better chance at playoffs then they ever have before. Plus, all PAC school actually care about sports

@mikeygoda Ай бұрын

pac will still need their champ to have 10 wins to be ranked high enough to get that spot. pretty much the same boat as the American.

@butchcassidy8965 Ай бұрын

PAC-12 really needs to make a push for Texas State

@STC987 Ай бұрын

And UTEP. Neither school has big exit fees and you might be able to offer partial shares of any media deal because it likely will be more than they get now. Then, get basketball schools. The more tournament bids they get, the more money. That’s another way to earn more revenue for members.

@michaelwall3393 Ай бұрын

Not when the Sun Belt is stronger and better and more powerful and valuable just like the AAC is even more powerful and stronger than any PAC creation. The rebuilding PAC will be on par with the Mountain Worst (West) and just at or above CUSA and MAC depending upon the years and how the seasons unfold in athletics those years in all sports and not just in football and men’s and women’s basketball.

@STC987 Ай бұрын

@@michaelwall3393 is your life so pathetic that you spew out nonsense that not even you believe so you can get a response? Because that is what you are doing. Nobody with half a brain believes what you say. Do some research on viewership and on field success. It might help.

@butchcassidy8965 Ай бұрын

@@michaelwall3393 😂 you are funny

@STC987 Ай бұрын

@@butchcassidy8965 I call it a purposely ignorant person looking for attention.

@Ikedawg43 Ай бұрын

Big 12 host thinks a conference with a number in its name that doesn’t match its member total is ridiculous…

@STC987 Ай бұрын

Yep, after A&M, Missouri, Colorado and Nebraska left, they had 10 teams for over a decade. I do not seem to recall them being called “The Big.”

@dwightlilly4208 Ай бұрын

The Mountain West still needs to add two schools to reach the eight. Hawaii is only a football partner but not a full member of the Mountain West.

@montea5390 Ай бұрын

San Jose State could be a good addition especially if they can get a new stadium built.

@raynesmith1348 Ай бұрын

@@montea5390 hay what up man so i see you like football

@raynesmith1348 Ай бұрын

I youth play football 😎

@raynesmith1348 Ай бұрын

Sprot is my game ❤

@kalisbestpttkoj692 Ай бұрын

PAC 12 is new leader is smart, and the PAC 12 will invite strong teams that are on the rise to join the conference. The new PAC 12 will be an exciting conference to watch. Haters will bark but at the end of the day, the PAC 12 will be the best G5 conference.

@nicholasbowman6067 Ай бұрын

UNLV and Air Force can’t afford the buyout UNLV is the name budget hole and Air Force has to have congressional approval

@SurfCityBill Ай бұрын

They have been offered $20-25M to stay. That's 4 or 5 years of TV deal income. Why would they leave?

@kbull7184 Ай бұрын

Dam, tell me you hate the PAC 12 without telling me you hate tha PAC 12. The naming convention does not work for a lot of conferences not just the PAC 12. But you know this. You just chose to pic on the PAC 12.

@-State-Of-Mind Ай бұрын

MWC or PAC 12 need to add Sam Houston. Sam is going to be dominating CUSA for years to come already. It would be a great way for them to enter the Texas market.

@charleswebsterjr.6350 22 күн бұрын

I would think Sam Houston would favor the Sunbelt alot more than the other G5 conferences, especially they fit culturally alot well and better in the Sun Belt conference ( as well as SFA whenever they decided to move to FBS). Plus they like playing Southern base schools, especially the likes of Louisiana Lafayette, ULM, Southern Miss, Costal California, Southern Alabama , James Madison etc.

@JuanHernandez-rm5dm Ай бұрын

They are cramming whatever teams they can get in the conference, so they should just call themselves the PAC-fudge.

@bradymoon1889 Ай бұрын

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@jaybee970 Ай бұрын

MW need two schools because Hawaii isn’t a full member

@kevinpedersen6875 Ай бұрын

UTEP, New Mexico St, Texas St., Tarleton St….hoping to make the jump. New Mexico State should be begging

@ryansuter4424 Ай бұрын

It’s PAC 12👍🏼 If the number thing is not jiving anymore for PAC 12 then start calling the BIG 10 BIG 18 and BiG12 the BIG 16. Come on now.

@kevinpedersen6875 Ай бұрын

Maybe Idaho or UCDavis?

@ryansuter4424 Ай бұрын

It’s hard to listen when a host comes across negative and seems to have a superiority attitude in regards to the PAC 12. It was just one host but still hard to listen to.