The Spartan Warrior-Poet: Unleashing the Power of Tyrtaeus' Battle Hymns

[@gusgus1816]

Really well put. There seems to be a bit of poetic narration all throughout these vids. It makes them more enjoyable & says that Agr seems to actually care about its content, unlike a lot of "creators" . Good work thank u

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

Thank you for noticing!

[@lucasbranco4846]

Very good

[@stoicforall]

You're back! Thank Zeus.

[@TheAtheist22]

Great times....the beginnings of Western Civilisation. Thank you for posting this.

[@AlucoraX]

I love to learn about my name "Achilles" so hearing this brought me joy

[@JKARMIS1]

Great video

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Survivethejive]

The warrior and the poet and the warrior-poet are all Indo-European archetypes. Great video even though i enjoy rock and roll

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

I enjoy Rock-n-Roll myself. In fact, I consider our show to be "Rock-n-Roll" in its own way. Yet, the criticisms that I've been reading all those years through conservative writers are making more and more sense. Allan Bloom wrote in "The Closing of the American Mind" "Rock music provides premature ecstasy and, in this respect, is like the drugs with which it is allied. It artificially induces the exaltation naturally attached to the completion of the greatest endeavors-victory in a just war, consummated love, artistic creation, religious devotion and discovery of the truth. Without effort, without talent, without virtue, without exercise of the faculties, anyone and everyone is accorded the equal right to the enjoyment of their fruits." Being a fan of Rock myself, I first believed this to be exaggerated and biased statement, yet, I later found that at least its comparison with drugs makes quite some sense. Because as the years go by, my favourite rock albums will consistently fail to give me the jolts of pleasure they once did, or the same excitement that anticipates the culminating guitar solo. Now, one might say that this is "normal," but that is simply not the case for listeners of Classical Music, who seem to discover more beauty, more complexity, more depth by listening again and again to their favourite scores.

[@Survivethejive]

@@AncientGreeceRevisited I agree that rock and later forms of pop music have had a corrosive influence but this is not something that began with rock after WWII, rather it was already well underway in Europe in the 1920's when jazz and associated dances became popular in European cities

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

@@Survivethejive Agree on that. In fact, the more you look for the roots of modern decadence, the earlier you go in time. Having said that, I think however that WW1 is a watershed moment. This "European Civil War" is an event that we still - a century later - have NOT wrapped our minds fully around what it meant for our culture. On the Indo-European front, I always thought that this might have something to do with the fall of the mounted warrior, the knight, that has been so central to European culture. The last cavalry charge was performed during WW1, and the results were something like that last scene from "The Last Samurai" where the warriors charged against machine guns to be cut down to the last man.

[@bl4454]

I love everything you make. Thank you for expounding the wisdom of Ancient Greece.

[@ifinoexanthacos]

This video was deep, one of my favorites. Thank you for posting!👍👍👍

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

Thank you for watching and commenting.

[@zsombornagy3935]

Great video editing

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

Thank you 🙏

[@Taleton]

ΕΎΓΕ ΘΕΌΣΤΑΛΤΕ !

[@roguerover30k]

Very cool storytelling. Telling the way through the nihilism to the sense once more...

[@paulz6594]

🔥 🔥

[@paulz6594]

🔥🔥🔥

[@achillebrlnds]

beautiful work

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

❤

[@zenden6564]

Wonderful to hear, thank you sir.

[@IIVVBlues]

In a time when history was the story, one's primary hope for immortality was the stories about him which would live beyond the grave. As Shakespear penned centuries later, "Not marble nor the gilded monuments of prince shall outlive this powerful rhyme." His tribute was not to a warrior, but it remains a valid comment on the power of words to grant immortality. I have always enjoyed Shakespeare for his ability to turn a phrase. There is beauty in language and for that sake alone do I read poetry. It is a shame that it is passing into disuse. I very much enjoy your presentations and the thoughts you share.

[@Taleton]

This morning I sat in my boat, waiting for Helios to reveal the Laconia shore….. My thoughts were swimming in Tyrtaeuses poems … and as the mighty God illuminated Taygetos and then the rest of the homeland …. Thyrikion sprang into my mind…. He also was in a ship sailing with King Kleomenes towards the Ptolemaic Egypt . My vision became blurry and I had to rinse my tears with the waters of the Lakonikos kolpos…. Laconian gulf…. Maybe my dear teacher it would be interesting to make a video about Thyrikionas mindset….

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

I thought you were in Papua New Guinea!

[@Taleton]

Almost…. Meanwhile we have become something like PNG …. Our polis are still safer than Port Moresby …. Let’s see for how long though …. 😜

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

@@Taleton They have, but it can go even further... Demolition Man! No joke, but we have to remember that safety and freedom are opposites! We need both, and it's hard to imagine a society that focuses on one exclusively (although the film that I mentioned is a good fictional example). But to find a balance, the have to remember that the more we have of one, the less we'll have of the other.

[@MaciejLorentz]

Poetry is everywhere today more than ever! Songs are all poems put to music, rap songs are almost pure poetry. Rappers rime about love, war, god, riches and philosophy. Remember to us the Iliad is the foundation of our literary tradition but to the ancient world it was pretty new and the most popular among many stories told by traveling bards.

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

Actually, you have a point! Thank you...

[@MaciejLorentz]

@@AncientGreeceRevisited Often times when we view the Ancient World we see it through the viewpoint of the Enlightenment and Renaissance periods. This is a Christianized sterilized version of antiquity. Orgies were everywhere, the statues were painted and men sought glorious deaths as well as glorious lives. I picture the Iliad was presented in a way much resembling a rap battle with each poet going in turn and singing their rendition or section of the Iliad with their own individual tweaking or telling of the story. Keep posting great content!

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

@@MaciejLorentz You are very much on point my friend! It’s the veil of the Enlightenment that we are trying to life, and Homeric “rap” is something we are currently exploring!

[@innosanto]

Only very good rap is poetry. And songs are rarely poetry. In both cases not all songs.

[@MaciejLorentz]

@@innosanto your characterization of hip hop has absolutely nothing to do with the structure of its use or how it was generated. Like its wrong, ignorant about how traditions start and just silly. Please grow up. We are not talking about your judgments on music quality but the way anthropologically music developes in a culture. Your comment is completely unintellectual. I would be embarrassed to say something so completely out of context. Please try harder to understand the conversation your commenting on. Correcting you off topic is a complete waste of time. Smart people stay on topic.

[@odysseasgalis]

Actually, there is a community that still keeps the logic of physical toughness, courage and poetry . It's the Foreign Legion of France. Singing about their heroes of war and excited to go the a mission.

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

But.,, do they also read poetry? :-)

[@adinfinitum000]

Ωραίο το συμπέρασμα στο τέλος. Έχεις πει κάτι σχετικά σε άλλα βίντεο;

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

Ναι, δε αυτό kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYbTfWyObK92hKs

[@someone-fs6ix]

Τέλειο βιντεάκι όπως πάντα, αλλά γτ διάλεξες τα βρωμογκραφιτι για background ρε μπρο...

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

Μη το ‘χεις εύκολο να φτιάχνεις ΚΑΙ τα εξώφυλλα :-)

[@someone-fs6ix]

​@@AncientGreeceRevisited τόσο one man show ρε σπαρτιάτη;; 😂😂 the harder the battle, the sweeter the victory

[@adampetritsis]

Η απλή απάντηση είναι “no time” 😢. Time is money and no money no honey, οπότε γίνεται ότι καλύτερο με το χρόνο που υπάρχει διαθέσιμος. Αλλά κάθε support είναι ευπρόσδεκτο 🙏

[@someone-fs6ix]

​@@adampetritsis μην ζητάτε συμπόνια. Εγώ τον λίγο χρόνο που μου απομένει τον περνάω καταναλώνοντας την δουλειά σας ❤️

[@cosmomusa]

Spartans was invaders as Dorians, who with the rest of dorian army conquest the Achaians and split the territory to Laconia, Argos etc. From the archaeology evidences we know that Dorians was inhabitants in north and central greece before established in Peloponnese. We know also from dna analysis that a steppe ancestry is not common element between greeks and only to a small fragment. The evidence shows Anatolian origin both for Minoans and Mycenaean and for the rest of greek Tribes. So the Indo-European Tribe who expand all over the europe is only theory and not have any real base.

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

The first part of what you wrote is exactly what we said. The second part needs more clarification. The Greek language is Indo European in origin, while the Minoan is not. How is that explained according to you? Plus, Anatolian does exclude Indo European..

[@cosmomusa]

@@AncientGreeceRevisited yes the Greek language is indo-european, the minoan language as is not yet read, but in recent resources some words as "Potnia" Lady come through in both languages. The science of archeology today have a strong belief that this people in Aegean have a common ancestors from Neolithic farmers, who developed each one they own topical culture and exchange it together until to bled in later stage to one.

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

@@cosmomusaSo I don't understand where the argument is?

[@cosmomusa]

@@AncientGreeceRevisited I wanted to point this, the entire KZbin is full of videos about the Indo-European tribe, but this is not true, it is about the Indo-European root language, who shared between different group of people's, and has nothing to do with a wave of conquest from north.

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

@@cosmomusaI understand where you are coming from. It's true that the most substantial evidence that we have is the language. But it's not difficult to postulate that since there existed a language, there must have been a people who spoke it! Where it gets confusing is that a lot of these "You tubers" look for genetics as a way to prove their "Indo-European-ness." But what they are forgetting is that modern Indians speak - on the whole - fluent english without being English ethnically. It's the language of the conquerors, so to speak. So with Indo-Europeans I believe.

[@agsrf6479]

very shameless AI image usage

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

It's our first time ever. How did you notice by the way?

[@agsrf6479]

@@AncientGreeceRevisited It's quite obvious if you have already seen some AI images yourself. The style of the helmets for example is obviously non-hirstorical and doesn't seem like something an artist would make for a presentation of a historical people. Also some of the artifacts like messed up hands and fingers show it a lot.

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

@@agsrf6479 Thanks for noticing. We deliberated a lot on these choices, especially the helmets, and believe me we tried to "tame" the AI into producing the right material. At the end, we thought that storytelling would trump accuracy, but it seems that our audience is far more observant than we thought ;-)

[@skywindow6764]

άσε το ροκ κάτω ρε, λες και δεν είναι τέχνη!

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

Τέχνη είναι, και μάλιστα καλή. Απλά ανοίγουν μια πόρτα στην ψυχή που αν δεν τεθεί «υπό φύλαξη,» πολλά κακά μπορούν να μπουν.

[@geogeo2299]

@@AncientGreeceRevisited One must learn to discern the good rock from the bad one. Rock was initialy introduced as an artistic vehicle for the Counterculture, to make itself popular throughout the westoid youth. From 1965 to 68 it indeed was so. But it was uncontrolable, and they (the music/leisure industry) were never able to contain it. So from 1968 onwards genuine artistic insticts kicked in, and they pretty much dominated the entire 20 years that followed. Most of Rock and Metal is fine art, and some of that is even classic - the classical music of our times, carrying timeless ideals inside new vessels.

[@alexandroskfs9794]

Υπερ παραγωγή το video αδερφέ! Να δώσεις τα εύσημά μου και σε αυτούς που σχεδιάζουν τους χαρακτήρες, πολύ ψαγμένη δουλειά. Για 'μένα είσαι μια ανάσα φωτός στο σκοτάδι που ζούμε και σε ευχαριστώ γι' αυτό.

[@AncientGreeceRevisited]

Σε ευχαριστούμε παρά πολύ!