The Stages of Grief and struggle in my journey of learning Russian

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How Janey Learned Russian (former COLLEGE RUSSIAN)

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@Existmusiccloud Жыл бұрын

I lost hair. I'm actually studying Russian again in LA. At least once a month I hear Russian speakers in my area and often I greet them and they're surprised

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Do you try to speak with them?

@Existmusiccloud Жыл бұрын

@CollegeRussian yes, of course, I've spoken with four Russian-speaking women so far🙂 Not just greetings but conversations

@russiangrammar 11 ай бұрын

Actually there is at least one other American with videos for learners of Russian (me!) - but our approaches are quite different. I think that's as it should be, remembering what I was told in a methodology class in grad school: мы все разные, we're all different, so it's appropriate that we all have our own teaching styles. You bring great energy to the project and a remarkable ability to connect through the screen. That's a real gift!

@howjaneylearned 11 ай бұрын

Omg, I can’t believe the OG Russian grammar KZbin teacher just left a comment on my channel!!!! I’ve used your videos in my classrooms for over a decade. In fact, I originally modeled my lessons after yours but had them covering the content that we were going over in my university classes. I originally started my channel to supplement my class work and to allow me to do a “flipped classroom”. Perhaps you’d be open to a collab video?

@immortal_i Жыл бұрын

Поздравляю! Это огромный труд. Вот тебе цветок 🌷

@heatherb2307 Жыл бұрын

Yes, I have absolutely been through so many stages of grief with Russian. So much complexity! I almost wish I had chosen a different language, but I think in the end it will be very much worth it. For me, recognizing the small wins and the improvement I've made that keeps me going.

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

That's good that you never gave up on Russian. Do you keep a journal? I love to go back and read things I wrote in Russian many years ago. It makes me so proud of myself that I was just so in love with the language that I felt COMPELLED to produce it in some way and I didn't even care whether it was right. In fact, I'll share one of those journal excerpts in the next video. It's pretty funny. The parts I can understand, that is.

@heatherb2307 Жыл бұрын

@@howjaneylearnedThank you! Yes, I do my best to keep a language journal, though I know I can do better at consistently doing that. I also try to make video recordings of myself regularly so I can hear my progress. I can see that I am talking more quickly and freely and doing much better at past tense. Two and a half years in and I feel I have so much more work to do, though. That's so cool about your journal entries! I hear you on the mistakes, lol. I look forward to your upcoming video. )))

@MaxGogleMogle Жыл бұрын

У каждого человека такое происходит. Вроде бы "бесполезно" и "пустая трата времени".... но в это время мозг человека накапливает информацию и структурирует ее, а потом внезапно происходит "квантовый скачок" - ВДРУГ все-все приходит в стройную систему, и человек может понимать на слух речь на том языке, который он изучал, а чуть позже - и говорить на этом языке без затруднений. Переход количества в качество - закон диалектики ! Тут главное - не бросать ! Обязательно будет "квантовый скачок" - вот увидите ! Причем, это будет МОМЕНТАЛЬНЫЙ переход - в течение суток или даже нескольких часов ! 😎

@jonasjonaitis2949 Жыл бұрын

Красуня ❤

@Benkerosadon7890 Жыл бұрын

Jenny, congratulations on your 20 year anniversary. Having searched the internet, youtube, instagram for years on how to understand the grammar especially the cases, yes, you are the only American (from Utah definitely) teaching the language. Yes, many times I wanted to just give up on learning the language but as someone once said" 'The heart has its reasons which reason knows nothing of." You also understand the frustration students go through speaking the language without the cases. Please keep up what you are doing for us.

@rosamundg. Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for this quote! (apparently by Blaise Pascal). I have no idea in obvious terms why I'm learning Russian!!! Finally!!! - an explanation for all those who ask, & it will help me to keep going when I think (again & again) perhaps I should give up.... Much appreciated, Jesse💚

@Benkerosadon7890 Жыл бұрын

@@rosamundg. You're welcome Rosa. This quote or thought process reflects Jenny's, myself and your spirit in pursuing our dreams. 😀

@bytownmary Жыл бұрын

I am so fortunate to have Russian friends who really encourage me to speak Russian. I totally agree that the process of learning Russian is at times challenging and frustrating. The more I learn the more I realize I don’t know. I am currently immersing myself in verbs of motion with prefixes and prepositions. I often wonder if I will ever make sense of it all. I love grammar so for me most of the time I like and enjoy the challenge of learning new constructions. My Russian friends encourage to speak and not to worry about making mistakes. I believe learning Russian is the most difficult thing I have ever pursued. I will admit there were times when I wanted to quit but I didn’t. I really appreciate your teaching and I am really pleased with what you offer on Patreon.

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

You are such an inspiration for everyone! You are the perfect example of how learning a language can bring beauty, awe and cognitive strength. It's hard to find those things as you get older.

@SergeyAveryanov Жыл бұрын

У вас занимательный канал, спасибо. Всегда интересно взглянуть на свой язык глазами человека, для которого он - иностранный.

@belsbo 9 ай бұрын

Джейни, поздравляю с замечательной годовщиной! Вы настоящий чемпион по выживанию в освоении языка. Прихожу сюда полюбоваться на ваш русский, прекрасный облик, а также, чтобы мне напомнили по какому правилу надо ставить мягкий знак на конце после шипящих согласных!😀

@LEYLAKHANAHMADAZE Жыл бұрын

Your pronunciation is amazing!

@languagetraveladoptee Жыл бұрын

Very similar experience but with French, thanks so much for acknowledging the pain and frustration and grief that accompanies language learning. So valid and sharing experiences is so valuable. I love watching your videos precisely because you're an american who speaks russian so fluently, plus your teaching background!

@howjaneylearned 11 ай бұрын

Yes! In fact, have you read Me Talk Pretty One Day by David Sedaris? It’s a hilarious memoir about him moving to France and trying to learn French.

@EJARNY Жыл бұрын

Very good observation on the declinations !

@andyandy-mf7tn Жыл бұрын

I have always struggled with English and thought how blessed English native speakers are. They don't need to learn such hard language. And i thought no one needs Russian because English is only languages that people need. But now i feel blessed because i have already learned the hard one first and now can learn not so hard ones. Now i learn German. It looks like a mix of English and Russian - articles and cases. Now i understand why Russian is not very popular among learners. It is considered very hard. The main issue to me was and is to find someone for speaking practice. Speaking is great way to improve but it is so hard to find a such partner, especially natives.

@susankeeton1636 Жыл бұрын

Congrats on 20 years! I’m in year 4 and feeling all of this grief! I thought I would be further along than I am. I’m motivated by the fact I have Russian DNA.

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Yeah! That's awesome. I used to work as an Eastern European specialist and the Family History library in Salt Lake City. It was so cool looking at the old records from the Russian empire. Have you done your genealogy?

@susankeeton1636 Жыл бұрын

@@howjaneylearned , When I went to Russia - Moscow and St Petersburg, I asked a few people if they ever heard of my last name, it’s a patronymic- and my entire life I was told it was Polish, until I did a DNA test on myself! I was blown away. And ever since then, I’ve immersed myself in all things Russian! But I still would like to try to find out what part my family name is from in Russia. I also think the pronunciation is all wrong. It starts with an English B but I believe it’s a Russian в.

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Well, Poland was part of the Russian Empire for a while. You can email me your last name and I'll look into for you!

@dfaz333 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations , Janey.

@kornvondorn5275 Жыл бұрын

Hats off to you! Какая станция я надо выйти на? )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

@PlanetaryDweeb Жыл бұрын

I relate very much to this video and I appreciate you talking about these subjects and experiences with learning another language, specifically Russian. It has been over a year since my last russian class and I have been meaning to study on my own, but I have been stuck in the stage that you describe at 6:15. It is just really hard for me to stay motivated to study it without any real deadlines or other commitments. I will definitely be checking out your patreon.

@MaxGogleMogle Жыл бұрын

@andrewdandrew1711 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 Happy anniversary 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 Шампанское в студию !!!!

@Nymkits Жыл бұрын

Almost two months in - still quite difficult, but I am able to understand quite a few things now. Sometimes the grammar makes me want to give up, however, I know that I am capable of understanding it eventually.

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

YES!!! Don't give up! Every skill/muscle worth having takes time, repetition and perseverance.

@__ALBINA Жыл бұрын

Джейни, поздравляю с такой важной датой! Такой большой труд проделан за это время ! Ты имеешь огромный опыт, практику, собственные разработанные методики и подходы к изучению, что вполне можешь это все объединить и выпустить учебник по изучению русского языка ! Желаю тебе и дальше вдохновлять студентов к изучению такого трудного языка 🌷

@HelpMyRussian Жыл бұрын

You are amazing!

@IceStan Жыл бұрын

I'm russian but I watched this video because you are so cute ❤

@turkansezer5711 Жыл бұрын

Bravo ❤!

@mwgood523 Жыл бұрын

I wanted to quit a couple of times[I'm about 9 years in now], but each time I just realized that I would never be able to give up the challenge. I just HAD to continue and conquer this language... over time, I saw certain patterns I hadn't seen before in the grammar and cases and things just got a lot easier over time once I got a better understanding. It was really frustrating that I felt like I could not consistently construct a complete sentence for about a year, so getting over those initial barriers was key. Nowadays, I can easily hold a decent conversation in Russian, although I still have some way to go before I consider myself "fluent."

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

That's great! What do you do on a daily basis to work on your Russian?

@mwgood523 Жыл бұрын

@@howjaneylearned I listen to podcasts and watch KZbin videos in Russian. Also, I am able to practice in conversations with Russian natives pretty regularly.

@marysmith733 Жыл бұрын

grammar is important i completely agree. btw, you are not the only one on youtube whose native is english from America teaching russian. i am following another two channels too, they are great just like yours.

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Oooh! What are those accounts called? I'd love to collaborate with them!

@marysmith733 8 ай бұрын

@@howjaneylearned www.youtube.com/@lifeofyama/videos www.youtube.com/@russianthroughpropaganda7845/videos

@katherineebenezer608 Жыл бұрын

Congrats on 20 years. I like this channel. I only found it less than a year ago. It's the only native english speaking one that I follow I believe. I like to use a good variety of teachers and methods.

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's a great idea! I usually assign my students all sorts of listening activities from Russian with Dasha, in Russian from afar and much more. There's so much great content out there.

@VerticalBlank Жыл бұрын

I think my journey is unusual these days, because in secondary school I studied Latin in depth plus a little bit of Ancient Greek. Thus neither a new alphabet nor the concepts of case declination and verb conjugation held any horrors for me. Indeed I recognized many letters from the Greek alphabet in Cyrillic. I'm also reasonably strong in Italian, French and German. And to be quite honest, after Latin's five(!) declensions of nouns, Russian grammar ain't so bad. But if course the difference is that you can take as much time with a Latin text as you want, but you have to parse and speak Russian in real time. That's a real biggie. Anyway, with that experience under my belt, I took care to study the cases one at a time, and most importantly to memorize phrases not words or tables. I think that is key. I suspect that the things that I struggle with are things that you already plan to address: * verb prefixes * verbs of motion (and how prefixes affect them) * vocabulary in general (listening to of my gf talking to her family on the phone I get about 20%) * cursive script (so many false friends, plus I cannot read my gf's handwriting to save my life) * rolled r's (I have a French r, sorry, that's all I've got)

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

omg, you read my mind! That's precisely the approach that my Cases textbook uses: one case at a time. Repeating phrases, then practice saying and customizing a whole bunch of different questions that use that case. I'll eventually do a video on my strategies for learning vocabulary. Don't worry about not rolling your R. There are actually a lot of Russians who can't roll their Rs.

@VerticalBlank Жыл бұрын

@@howjaneylearned Thanks Jenny. I can't roll my r's and Jelena struggles with English 'th'. We will help each other. Meanwhile Елена praised me for my hush consonants, even щ, and I am getting much better at ы.

@daughteroftiaran Жыл бұрын

I took six years of Latin (2 high school, four undergrad, my final latin class was me and three grad students), and it has been a HUGE help to me in learning Russian so far (just started in March 2023).

@KlubMila0124 Жыл бұрын

Where have you been the past year and a half for me!? This video is you reading my mind 😅. Thank you for your videos and all you're doing. I have made a Russian friend but feel so bad when he is always having to correct me. I don't want him to feel like he has to be my teacher. I'm going to binge your videos now.

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

I am soooooo happy to hear that! I'm trying to tweak my channel so that people like you can find me more easily. For some reason KZbin only ever seems to recommend my videos to Russians. How are YOU teaching yourself Russian? What things do you struggle the most with?

@шибкоумнаяоднако Жыл бұрын

Когда слушаю, как тяжело даётся русский язык изучающим, сразу чувствую себя не "плохо знающей английский ленивой задницей", а "плохо знающей английский ленивой задницей с охренительным уровнем русского языка" XD Кстати, по поводу темы на 1:00 - я встречала как минимум один канал, помимо вашего, где англоговорящий человек учит русскому. Но это действительно не очень часто попадается.

@ЕленаЦысс-х7и Жыл бұрын

I'm so proud of you! I would never learn Russian if I weren't a native speaker😅❤. It' SO complicated.

@양병학-e1e Жыл бұрын

It feels like my own journey at it. No easy practice over it. It has taken my own 20 years learning, yet all into it.

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Isn't it crazy that we can have such long attention spans for something? I still feel like I've only scratched the surface of everything I WANT to know.

@CorrectHorse126 Жыл бұрын

I'm having a phase where I feel like I know a reasonable amount of vocabulary and grammar, but I still can't put a sentence together fast enough to have a conversation. The fix: lots of stock phrases on flashcards, and talking to people online so it doesn't matter how long I take. And of course with the practice I'm getting faster.

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

You should come to our convo club! You can speak as much or as little as you want and it's great to feel the camaraderie of other learners. Plus, there's Russians in there who are scared to speak English. It's a nice reminder that, yes, English comes naturally to US, but it can be intimidating for learners--especially to hear all our different accents.

@CorrectHorse126 Жыл бұрын

@@howjaneylearned Not in the budget at the moment, but maybe one day!

@tomasquijada5359 Жыл бұрын

I started learning Russian at 19 too:) I love the language. I just turned 20, so I haven’t had a lot of time with the language, however I think I’ve been doing a great job so far. My boyfriend is from Ukraine and that has been a huge motivation. He doesn’t speak English, which is very good for me cause I’m obligated to speak Russian. It’s great to have a native English speaker who understands my pain. New subscriber❤❤

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome. Love is always a great motivator for language learning.

@maximator667 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations, great job) Thanks for your videos)

@miri-dz9oy Жыл бұрын

Congrats on your 20th anniversary , your language achievements and for being a survivor of Russian grammar.😂 Watching you speaking Russian is highly inspirational. I very selfishly love the fact that you are a native English speaker who teaches Russian so I can not just learn Russian but also improve my English at the same time. Haha😂 Sometimes I feel, listening too much to native Russian teachers who speak both English and Russian at the same time deteriorates my English, mainly in terms of accent.😂 (I don't meant to be mean; they are doing an outstanding job as well. It is just a fact and I have learnt that I'm not alone in this when it comes to people that are neither native English nor native Russian speakers.) Eventually I need to switch to monolingual content to avoid this sort of problem and to make faster progress. An added bonus of your channel is that you have many native Russian viewers that are contributing through their comments. I love this mixture! Your lessons are a joy to watch, very entertaining and informative. I highly appreciate you sharing your knowledge with all of us. Большое спасибо! Greetings from Germany.

@СергейКарташков-э9ъ Жыл бұрын

Congratulations!

@allendeednella Жыл бұрын

Кстати, как раз недавно читал тезис о том, что носитель языка не в состоянии быть адекватным учителем своего языка для иностранцев, так как он приобретал навыки владения своим языком "естественным" путем, не наступая на грабли и не испытывая боль от первоначального вхождения в новый язык. Поэтому учить иностранному языку должен именно тот человек, для которого этот язык тоже является иностранным. Безусловно, носитель языка может продемонстрировать идеальное произношение, но произношение не является главным аспектом языка.

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Ничего себе! Я заинтересована этим тезисом. У вас есть ссылка на него?

@allendeednella Жыл бұрын

kzbin.infoFXpeFGMdYfM@@howjaneylearned

@shogunkub Жыл бұрын

Это натяжка. Просто носитель без специального образования и правда не может быть действительно хорошим учителем. Преподавание - это то, чему надо учиться в том числе:) Взять хотя бы то, что большинство носителей русского не знают английских названий русских падежей. Ну потому что не нужны они, кроме как для изучения русского. Так что я бы сказал, что этот тезис скорей относится к случаю "язык с носителем".

@yalex3117 Жыл бұрын

примерно столько же учу английский. интересный видос

@GrimLordofOregon Жыл бұрын

There’s been a few times, when spelling a word in English (my native language) that I’ve spelled r as p, n as H, and had to think about how a lowercase l is written.

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

THAT IS A TRUE TRIUMPH! Have you ever talked in your sleep in Russian? That's the other triumph--when you start to even dream in Russian. One time I woke up to my little 4 year old son looking at me very confused. I said, "Are you okay?" and he said, "Mommy, you talking WUSHUN in your sleep!" Then I asked him what I was saying and he imitated it for me: "You were saying, SOOOOOOOka, SOOOOOOOKA!" hahaha. Good thing my kids don't know Russian swear words.

@GrimLordofOregon Жыл бұрын

@@howjaneylearned Ha, I like your story, but no I have not.

@1e0a47 Жыл бұрын

Очень рад, что Женечка выжила. А сколько ведь не выжило! ... к сожалению...

@СергейКарташков-э9ъ Жыл бұрын

Да живы они, просто прячутся :)

@MaxGogleMogle Жыл бұрын

Ну да... после того,что плешивый обнуленец учудил, количество людей по всему миру, желающих изучать русский, сильно уменьшилось.... Остались САМЫЕ УМНЫЕ ! Ибо, как говорил еще Сталин : "Гитлеры приходят и уходят, а Германия остается !" (с). То же самое можно сказать и теперь о плешивом обнуленце, его фашизме и о России. Самые УМНЫЕ это понимают !

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

от русского языка.

@oktavbanar7059 Жыл бұрын

Я прошел все эти стадии в детстве и не помню было ли это трудно или нет. Но я до сих пор не знаю правил грамматики русского языка , не отличу причастный оборот от деепричастного, но тем не менее я являюсь носителем языка и пишу и разговариваю без ошибок

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

А вы были окружён русским языком в детстве? Если да, то грамматика не нужна была. Грамматика нужна только после подростковых лет. Называется "critical age hypothesis".

@ivanschekoldin7315 Жыл бұрын

@@howjaneylearnedтут, наверно, еще читать нужно много, чтобы нормально писать, иначе - ад и Израиль. Подавляющее большинство носителей русского допускают кучу ошибок, когда пишут. Довольно многие и говорят абы как. Ну, наверно, это касается носителей большинства языков, просто в разной степени upd: посмотрел список видео на канале - прошлое как раз на эту тему)

@MaxGogleMogle Жыл бұрын

Ну ? Простой вопрос: множественное число слова "дно" ?

@MrAtomicPig Жыл бұрын

@@howjaneylearned Dear Janey, since there's no Konstantin in the video or in the comments, so now you're under attack 🐷 Вы окруженЫ (doesn't matter if вы/Вы plural or singular) Ты окружён With love, oink-oink!🐷

@A1lexander Жыл бұрын

@@MaxGogleMogleдонья 😮😮

@ДмитрийДобрый-щ7к Жыл бұрын

Дело в то что английский язык(возможно ещё и датский)аналитический а русский язык флективный,хотя английский и является германским языком он мало использует систему склонений по падежам(в немецком подеж'ная система сохранена также как и в западной фризком котрый является самым близким геоманским языком к английскому. В славянских языках толко болгарский язык является аналитическим.

@MaxGogleMogle Жыл бұрын

В болгарском только зачатки аналитики.... определенный артикль. В русском тоже это есть, но употреблять не обязательно, как в болгарском. Например: "Конь-то устал, коня-то надо накормить и конь-то должен отдохнуть !" Вот частица "-то" в этом предложении есть именно определенный артикль в русском - этот конкретный конь !

@ЮраН-ь2к Жыл бұрын

@@MaxGogleMogle Некоторые даже произносят "конь-от".

@MaxGogleMogle Жыл бұрын

4:55 Санскрит имеет 8 падежей, и соотв. около ДВУХСОТ (!!!) отглагольных форм каждого глагола - склонения по родам, падежам, числам и временам + спряжения 😀 Вот это я понимаю - ДА, мощно ! 😎 Сравните: для общения на бытовом уровне на любом языке достаточно лексикона в 2.5- 3 тыс. слов всего....

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Я буду цитировать этот комментарий в одном видео! Я буду говорить о том, что языки становятся более простыми с временем.

@MaxGogleMogle Жыл бұрын

@@howjaneylearned Да ! И весь русский мат, кстати, как и вся русская родственная иерархия (все эти "шурин", "сноха", "деверь", "зять", "свекр", "тесть", а также их эквиваленты в женском роде, если есть ) имеют прямые когнаты в санскрите через PIE - пра-индоевропейский язык... Слово нецензурное из 3- х букв на "х" в буквальном значении PIE - "шип", "колючка", "иголка хвои". Слово из 5-ти букв на "п" в буквальном значении PIE - "то, на чем сидят". Однокоренные слова "сад", "седло", "гнездо".... и прямые когнаты английские "nest" , "to sit". Везде общий индоевропейский корень "*sd (t)" в значении "сидеть". Инфинитив русский нецензурный на "е" в значении "заниматься сексом" в санскрите почти без изменений... только вместо "ь" в окончании- "и" 😀

@MaxGogleMogle Жыл бұрын

@@schtorm2006 Ошибаешься. Чтоб понять контекст, достаточно всего 800 (ВОСЕМЬСОТ !) слов. И именно таково требование ФМС к мигрантам, которые хотят получить разрешение на работу и/или ВНЖ в раше федераше... ВОСЕМЬМОТ СЛОВ ! Чтоб не восстанавливать смысл по контексту, а понимать полностью - именно 2.5 - 3 тыс. слов на ЛЮБОМ языке. Конечно же, это НЕ профессиональная лексика, а сугубо бытовая.

@ДмитрийМолчанов-ч9у Жыл бұрын

Для русскоязычных детей русская грамматика тоже каторга! В школе надо запомнить (для ребёнка не понятно - ЗАЧЕМ?) все эти названия падежей, форм глаголов, где и когда ставить запятые и т.п. Ну и самое главное... Я не знаю как пишется и произносится "молоко" на украинском и белорусском, просто как пример приведу: Укр.: если пишем "мОлОкО", значит надо так и говорить. Грамматика доминирует над речью. Бел.:если говорим "мАлАкО", значит так и писАть надо. Речь доминирует грамматикой. Рус: хоть и пишем "мОлОкО", говорим "мАлАкО" ! ГРАММАТИКА И РЕЧЬ "ЖИВУТ" САМИ ПО СЕБЕ, ПОЧТИ НЕЗАВИСИМО!!! :)

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Да, русские знают свою грамматику гораздо лучше, чем англо-говорящие. Я впечатлена.

@delete0y Жыл бұрын

Непонятно зачем?Так говорить глупо.Очевидно, это для того, чтоб они хотя бы в 80% окончаний не ошибались и были грамотнее

@MaxGogleMogle Жыл бұрын

*непонятно Это НЕ "не с глаголом", а наречие - пишется слитно !

@allendeednella Жыл бұрын

Украинский и вправду гораздо правильнее и логичнее русского, не только в произношении, но и в словообразовании. Украинская цепочка: людина-люди-людство. Русская цепочка: человек-люди-человечество. Украинская цепочка: будинок-будувати-буда. Русская цепочка: дом-строить-будка. Украинская цепочка "харчі-харчуватися-харчовий". Русская цепочка "харчи"-"питаться"-"пищевой". Украинская цепочка "розповідь-оповідання-оповідка-повідати-відати-скуштувати-відвідати-заповідати." Русская цепочка "рассказ-повествование-рассказ-поведать-ведать-отведать-посещать-завещать." Русский язык - это кошмар для иностранцев, которые его изучают. Я бы на их месте начинал с украинского.

@ДмитрийМолчанов-ч9у Жыл бұрын

@@MaxGogleMogle Вам, наверняка, известна шутка: Тихо шифером шурша Крыша едет (не)спеша. НЕ в скобках пишется слитно или раздельно? По построению фразы -- это деепричастие, а по сути фразы -- наречие, т.к. уже есть деепричастие "шурша".

@WHIVIX Жыл бұрын

Я сейчас изучаю английский и Ютуб рекомендовал мне это видео. Было очень интересно и смешно. Мне повезло, что я сейчас изучаю английский, а не русский 😂

@andreirublev8118 Жыл бұрын

Two Americans practicing Russian: - Где я можно купить гитара? - Моя твоя не понимай.

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Yep. Sounds pretty much like the kind of "dialogues" I hear in my beginning classrooms LOL

@ProstoIgra-g2m 11 ай бұрын

А я учу английский с Дженни, она все видео говорит на английском и я ее понимаю))

@royalyarbrough9596 Жыл бұрын

I am a beginner, thank you for encouragement. Although my progress is slow. I practice every day. I want a tutor or good program to expedite my learning and to ease the difficult barriers with the help of someone like yourself. Any ideas would be much appreciated. Thank you!!!!:))

@Кто-тоНеизвестный-п1г Жыл бұрын

Интересно. Кому-то сложно привыкнуть к тому, как много форм могут принимать слова в чужом языке. А кому-то к тому, что без этого разнообразия можно выразить любую мысль. Все-таки язык оставляет свой след на мышлении.

@speakrussian6779 Жыл бұрын

Да просто есть языки аналитические, а есть синтетические.

@AndreiPautov-h9c Жыл бұрын

учат ли иностранцы состав слова? или просто зубрят склонения? никогда не задумывался о русском как иностранном языке и какие стадии боли нужно пройти

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Зависит от уровня и курса. У меня был такой курс в американском универе. Я была единственный студент, которому нравился этот предмет хаха.

@MaxGogleMogle Жыл бұрын

@@howjaneylearned Дайте угадаю.... Вам нравилась и химия, так ? Ибо химия намного лучше и быстрее приучает к структурированному мышлению - лучше и быстрее, чем математика ! Именно химия и лингвистика 😎Такой вот парадокс и "единство и борьба противоположностей" - закон диалектики !

@alexgordon3242 Жыл бұрын

Я бы не смог выучить русский. У меня для этого не хватает силы воли. Я не могу выучить 60 "неправильных" глаголов в английском языке, потому что это... блин, как сложно! :)) А потом от иностранцев, которые учат русский, узнал, что в русском ВСЕ слова "irregular". Раньше я не замечал этого, но теперь я знаю, что говорю на самом сложном языке. Прикольно. ;)

@WHIVIX Жыл бұрын

На английском я говорил: I can to do it , I would've do it 😂

@speakrussian6779 Жыл бұрын

I would've done it.

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

He's making fun of his bad grammar. He knows his mistake.

@speakrussian6779 Жыл бұрын

@@howjaneylearned I am a teacher. I HAVE to correct! 😀

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Haha! So true. It's painful to hold back.

@A1lexander Жыл бұрын

Вы прекрасны, хотелось бы послушать ваш русский язык!

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Есть куча видео, где я говорю на русском на моем канале.

@bt8593 Жыл бұрын

I don't know how many people from the US will feel comfortable with going and immersing themselves in the culture, but some of the experiences you can have with cultural mistunderstanding are just hair-raising and make the grammar seem tame by comparison. I probably still have some videos on my channel of reflections on my experiences early in my stay in Russia. Oh and good luck understanding Russian from a "lower class" native speaker (something like a gopnik, but not a gopnik) when they are comfortable--every other word is блядь and it makes otherwise simple Russian unintelligible 🤣

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

YESSSSSS! Here are some of the people I have a REALLLLLY hard time understanding: Gopniki. ESPECIALLY drunk gopniki. Men of around age 70 who served in the Soviet Government because they speak with all sorts of slang and acronyms. And toothless babushki LOL

@bt8593 Жыл бұрын

@@howjaneylearned Well, my experience with what I can only call a мужик, and apparently ОМОН, too, so not your typical пацан hanging outside the Красная и Бельная or whatever those little stores were called.

@cicik57 Жыл бұрын

Those english native speakers who succeed in learning russian, deserve the title of Hero of Labor and cast-iron medal with all word changes engraved on it.

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

I AGREE!!!!!! Plus maybe some sort of monetary prize ;)

@cicik57 Жыл бұрын

@@howjaneylearned ohh, and a case of vodka and bread coupons of course )

@СтранаРоссия05 Жыл бұрын

Please answer to my question, what can i do to pronounce the Russian Р/ the R correctly? :*( You just can't comprehend how frustrated and angry i am, i sound so weird when i read a book or talk in the Russian Language because so many words have a R in it like 50%

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

In the middle of a word you can almost say it as a "d" that you're curling the tip of your tongue SLIGHTLY back for. With you tongue in that position, blow air out of your mouth. It takes practice. Beyond that, did you know that there are even Russians who can't roll their Rs and say it more like a French R. There's even a famous podcast host that says his Rs like that.

@Lactorioga Жыл бұрын

English natives should learn basics of Deutsch language as adaptation to Slavic languages - it also have cases and 3 genders and all forms of declinations

@speakrussian6779 Жыл бұрын

German

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Yes! I'm actually going to talk about an interesting thing that is currently happening with the German cases in a future video!

@letshigh99 Жыл бұрын

That drives me insane when you see what you could've become if I'd been learning English for 20 years 😂

@fauxpassant Жыл бұрын

Hold up... there's Russian Grammar's channel too, isn't he a native English speaker too?

@MnAngrydad Жыл бұрын

There is only one questuion - Why?

@healysn Жыл бұрын

There would be no glory if it were not difficult!

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Right?!? Anybody can learn Spanish. But Russian?

@olegpetrovskiy1583 Жыл бұрын

No pain no gain

@ethiop_frum Жыл бұрын

Глядя на нее, я испытываю эмоционально-интеллектуальный "испанский оргазм" (если можно так выразиться)! 😂

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

I don't even want to know what that means.

@tooninja Жыл бұрын

Because you putted letter Я - it sounds weird for russian speaker but if remove it, it will be ok)

@ЮраН-ь2к Жыл бұрын

Russian preposition can't appear in the end of sentence.

@nickpershin Жыл бұрын

Слушать как русские американцы общаются между собой по телефону весьма забавно - эдакая смесь русских и английских слов, как-то спросил одного парня из Техаса на каком языке он размышляет, на что он ответил, подтвердив моё мнение - это смесь языков.

@undrenaline Жыл бұрын

Why so many people tell about cases etc. in Russian, it isn't so uncommon to study Latin in the West

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Were you expected to have conversations in Latin? There's something especially intimidating about having to remember all those endings on the fly.

@undrenaline Жыл бұрын

@@howjaneylearned Ah, from this point I see the point)) So far for me it often sounded like cases are so russian-specific, but among the most spoken/UN languages cases are the case only in Russian, You are quite right.

@allendeednella Жыл бұрын

"Где я можно купить гитара" звучит кривовато, но смысл вполне понятен. Грамматический падеж является излишним. В нидерландском языке падежи исчезли, в некоторых диалектах немецкого родительный падеж заменяется винительным, что упрощает грамматику без потери смысла. Болгарский язык вполне обходится без падежей.

@ЮраН-ь2к Жыл бұрын

Я дать ты палка.

@MaxGogleMogle Жыл бұрын

"Каноническое" , карикатурное изображение иностранцев в русских фильмах - употребление только инфинитивов в речи на русском языке, без падежей, а также только мужской род существительных 😀Обычно так немцев изображали 😎

@youriananov Жыл бұрын

Hi everyone! I native of Russia. I can help you and you can help me because I have been learning English for a year. I need to speak and you too. It's the best thing to improve your skills. I know what I say, because I have been living in Paris since 2009 and I learned Franche hier :)

@АртемХарченко-й3б Жыл бұрын

Jane, my excuses, what is the colour of your eyes? They are green, aren't they?

@howjaneylearned Жыл бұрын

Green

@89RASMUS Жыл бұрын

I struggled with Russian for over 2 years. I even continued as they invaded Ukraine, hoping for Russia to regain their senses. But as the reports of Russian war crimes kept pouring in and deliberate attacks on civilians flood the medias I finally gave up as I realized the Russian people actually support Putin, his regime and the unjustified war on Ukraine. There's just no way I could ever visit or show any kind of support or love for a country like that. Russia is quickly becoming the worst plague in Europe since Nazi Germany. Yes, the grammar made it hard to learn. Russia made it impossible.

@TadParker Жыл бұрын

правильное решение👍

@MyEnglishWorld-pr6jk Жыл бұрын

Why?

@AlionaLukina Жыл бұрын

I think that the majority just doesn't care.

@dinaraeng Жыл бұрын

Если бы вы знали как я кайфую, когда иностранцы учат русский язык и понимают грамматику лучше чем сами русские 😂 Ps' it seems to me that Russians are struggling with grammar more that foreigners😅😅😅