The Stand 2020 - The Cinema Snob

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@nicklager1666
@nicklager1666 3 жыл бұрын
Legend has it that a man in a hospital bed somewhere in Chicago could have solved the plague in the Stand. He allegedly went by the name Sol.
@michaelryall5752
@michaelryall5752 3 жыл бұрын
"Fuck Sol!"
@talkinghoorse6936
@talkinghoorse6936 3 жыл бұрын
Scientists were going to take his blood samples to save humanity, but some chuckleheads shot him out of a cannon.
@domingosjunior6805
@domingosjunior6805 3 жыл бұрын
the world can die,no one will care for Sol
@exiledPostman
@exiledPostman 3 жыл бұрын
FUCK SOL!!!
@PaulWerkema
@PaulWerkema 3 жыл бұрын
Typical Sol. Dying before he fixed the plague.
@XxMeatShakexX
@XxMeatShakexX 3 жыл бұрын
This really makes you appreciate the original despite its flaws.
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 3 жыл бұрын
Hoping HBO will redo this show and actually stick to the source material
@Linklex7
@Linklex7 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I have never really hated remakes. One of two things will happen. Either it’s good, which is a plus. Or it’s terrible and it makes everyone appreciate the original more. The example I’m going to use is a reboot as oppose to a remake, but still applies. Look at Street Fighter. People hated the Van Damme movie when it came came out, they only started to love it when The Legend of Chun Li came out and was so horrible it made folks look at the Van Damme movie and go “you weren’t so bad by comparison.”
@edithisaok580
@edithisaok580 3 жыл бұрын
Amen. 1994 was glorious.
@randalgraves6979
@randalgraves6979 3 жыл бұрын
M O O N That spells yeah right 🙄
@jacquelinecallejas1390
@jacquelinecallejas1390 3 жыл бұрын
Despite the dismal CGI that was the hand of God or Fate or whatever, that blew up evil Las Vegas, I really liked the original. I liked the acting. The intro to Don't Fear the Reaper was AWESOME, and a personal fave moment was Cory Nemic's delivery of the following line while building a bomb, listening to music "NOBODY turns off Donna Summer !!!!!" While I did not get to see this version, it seems from what Cinema Snob is saying that for one thing it is horribly edited. I remember the original was easy to follow, you knew each person's background, scenes progressed in an order that made sense, stuff happened that tied into other stuff that was happening. This version sounds like a MESS. At least that is how it is described here. Too bad.
@manaaddicted
@manaaddicted 3 жыл бұрын
Before I give an opinion, please allow me to flashback to a scene that really doesn't help anyone understand who I am.
@theinternetjerk9597
@theinternetjerk9597 3 жыл бұрын
The editing is crap!! Removed any emotional or logical connection.
@jbjacobs9514
@jbjacobs9514 3 жыл бұрын
5 days earlier...
@scitechian
@scitechian 3 жыл бұрын
@@theinternetjerk9597 I imagine they were trying to ape the 1990 "It" mini-series, where the first part was a sequence of flashbacks interspersed with a framing device that ties it all together. Unfortunately, the editor of The Stand 2020 doesn't know how to do that.
@ryanchurchill5081
@ryanchurchill5081 3 жыл бұрын
How about instead of flashbacks you start at the beginning. Just saying
@billsimms2511
@billsimms2511 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanchurchill5081 yeah in a movie like this it needs to be told in a linear fashion. It makes no sense to jump all over the place
@NephilimHunter1959
@NephilimHunter1959 3 жыл бұрын
The 2020 stand is like if they stuck the book in a blender and they tried to put it back together again and made a series out of it
@titusmccarthy
@titusmccarthy 3 жыл бұрын
Essentially.
@theSemiChrist
@theSemiChrist 3 жыл бұрын
So basically what the Dark Tower movie did with those 7 books?
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 3 жыл бұрын
I find it funny how in interviews Josh Boone says he loves the book. I don’t get how he claims to love the book and makes this crapshow of a series.
@mariadocarmosobreira8323
@mariadocarmosobreira8323 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericcartman7361 I'm sure he believes it's a great series and very faithful to the book.
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariadocarmosobreira8323 Well if he thinks that then he’s wrong 😂
@jacobellison1763
@jacobellison1763 3 жыл бұрын
M O O N, that spells Cinema Snob.
@cecilhester
@cecilhester 3 жыл бұрын
Well played, good sir.
@el-kiote
@el-kiote 3 жыл бұрын
That does NOT spell cinema snob! It spells moon! MOOOONNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!
@amberace
@amberace 3 жыл бұрын
well said, sir
@SpeedyEric1
@SpeedyEric1 3 жыл бұрын
M-O-O-N, that spells "Screw this mini-series' editing and pacing."
@themachine2604
@themachine2604 3 жыл бұрын
Moon that spells coronavirus
@valcristPL
@valcristPL 3 жыл бұрын
"Mother Abigail went missing. And then they found her." Oh my god this got me laughing so hard, I love the deadpan.
@jjhofstra5956
@jjhofstra5956 2 жыл бұрын
Right! Boy wanders out of a supervised house......finds mother abigail a few minutes later...
@escalatingbarbarism5096
@escalatingbarbarism5096 3 жыл бұрын
I would always watch the old series a lot and think "Wow, if they did this again they could really do it better." Oh well.
@Mike-zs8hq
@Mike-zs8hq Жыл бұрын
Never underestimate the stupidity of our fellow humans.
@WolfHreda
@WolfHreda Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, doing it better requires executives who give a shit about art.
@richardalvarado-ik9br
@richardalvarado-ik9br Жыл бұрын
There's a free 6 hr version on YT, although the picture is decaying because it needs to be digitized.
@Terry-hm4bs
@Terry-hm4bs Жыл бұрын
Yes, and let me know when Elvis gets here!!😝
@chrisstick5403
@chrisstick5403 3 жыл бұрын
This whole series, during the opening credits I'm like: "Not Tan! Anything but Tan! "
@Worqfis
@Worqfis 3 жыл бұрын
It's not New Vegas without the super mutants, death claws, cazadors, and Caesar's legion.
@fuzer909
@fuzer909 3 жыл бұрын
Plus robots everywhere.
@BulletTooth504
@BulletTooth504 3 жыл бұрын
@@fuzer909 Especially the sex bots. Fisto is programmed to please.
@grantus_pax
@grantus_pax 3 жыл бұрын
critical lack of matthew perry, NOT loyd approved!
@BeckyLStoutWriter
@BeckyLStoutWriter 3 жыл бұрын
"Are you not aware of how entitled we are as a people? We want it all now! Binge-watching has turned us into a nation of Veruca Salts!" Thank you. I was looking for a new quote to post on my Instagram. 😃
@garyhall7867
@garyhall7867 3 жыл бұрын
That threw me off until i read this comment because i thought he meamt the band, not the spoiled child lol
@whiteydiamond
@whiteydiamond 3 жыл бұрын
@@garyhall7867 that is not in any way true lol
@jbjacobs9514
@jbjacobs9514 3 жыл бұрын
Bad egg!
@garyhall7867
@garyhall7867 3 жыл бұрын
@@whiteydiamond oh no, it 100% is. I watched more MTV in the 80s and 90s than kids movies
@DarlingMissDarling
@DarlingMissDarling 3 жыл бұрын
@@garyhall7867 same. Oh, same.
@michaelryall5752
@michaelryall5752 3 жыл бұрын
An hour and forty-three min Cinema Snob episode! I'm gonna need a lot more lotion to get through this one.
@criticalmass527
@criticalmass527 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like its time to oil up 💯
@BrotherMag
@BrotherMag 3 жыл бұрын
😆 🤣 😂
@timd3469
@timd3469 3 жыл бұрын
I don't want to presume anything, but you may be YouTubing wrong, or at least too hard?
@freakyzed8467
@freakyzed8467 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta look at this one like tantric sex. Let it last my friend!
@marclewis5505
@marclewis5505 3 жыл бұрын
In the words of Cinema Snob, what the fuck?
@snukastyle
@snukastyle 3 жыл бұрын
So, what Brad wants...is a Dark Tower series with Alexander Saarsgard as the Dark Man? Cool.
@UnwantedStudios3
@UnwantedStudios3 3 жыл бұрын
i could live with that
@flunk_waffle8073
@flunk_waffle8073 3 жыл бұрын
Eyes of the dragon would be a good one
@ravensthatflywiththenightm7319
@ravensthatflywiththenightm7319 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds fun but who gets to be Roland?
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 3 жыл бұрын
They shouldn’t start a Dark Tower series after this adaptation of The Stand
@LeCreuset05
@LeCreuset05 3 жыл бұрын
Alexander Skarsgård actually is a good actor. The sad thing is he's so poorly directed for 90% of the series that he rarely gets an opportunity to bring his A-game to Randall Flagg. Only time will tell if he gets another shot at the role with a better director.
@MarsMellow84
@MarsMellow84 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Snob for doing this series review! You actually put more thought into this review than the whole series did.
@Travestyshard
@Travestyshard 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing the job that nobody wanted to. I watched the first episode and 'NOPED' out. Thank you for watching for me and countless others
@Avenger85438
@Avenger85438 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like these scenes where arranged by someone who had drank too much coffee. _"Putthishere! Nowthisgoeshere! Didyouseethewalkingdeadlastnight?! Isthataplane?! Manthiscoffee'sgood!"_
@desi1790
@desi1790 3 жыл бұрын
While having spasm
@matachresis
@matachresis 3 жыл бұрын
This whole miniseries was the first line of a Radiohead album: After years of waiting, nothing came.
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 3 жыл бұрын
@MrBenjy1991 If HBO does redo this show here’s who I think they should keep from the CBS version. Keep Marsden, Kinnear, Skarsgard, Teague, and maybe the actress who played Fran. New cast: Larry Underwood - Tom Hardy Mother Abigail - Octavia Spencer Tom Cullen - Vince Vaughn Nick Andros - Tom Holland Lloyd Henried - Robert Downey Jr Trashcan Man - Seth MacFarlane Nadine Cross - Dakota Fanning The Kid - Mathew McConaughey That’s my fancast for an HBO produced adaptation. Let’s hope HBO adapts this soon.
@drstrangelove307
@drstrangelove307 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericcartman7361 I agree with your choices on which actors to keep, cause those actors actually did good in their roles as the characters
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 3 жыл бұрын
@@drstrangelove307 I also think they should keep the actors who played the minor characters like Jk Simmons, Heather Graham, Natalie Martinez, and the dude who played Teddy Weizak. Let’s just hope HBO will listen to fans of the book and give us an adaptation of The Stand we waited for.
@nobel11
@nobel11 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a reasonable man, get off my case.
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 2 жыл бұрын
I know I already commented here before, but I hope the actress who played Franny gets a better Stephen King adaptation.
@fuzer909
@fuzer909 3 жыл бұрын
"Anyway he's dead now" Thank you Brad for that, I'll say that randomly now to confuse people.
@tskmaster3837
@tskmaster3837 3 жыл бұрын
5:27 This is hurting me, just hurting me. The point of starting with Stu and the small town... and Campion, can't forget Campion... is to have the Government swoop in and take them after exposure to Patient Zero. And then all but Stu dies under secure Government lock down. Something something stakes maybe? Suspense? Basic storytelling 101? Maybe I'd enjoy the 2020 Stand more if I hated the book? But no, the first half of the novel is Perfection and the basic rule I learned from Tremors is don't mess with Perfection!
@DrOtto-zn1rv
@DrOtto-zn1rv 3 жыл бұрын
The modern screenwriting bad habit of gradually telling a story through endless flashbacks needs to stop. Right now.
@billsimms2511
@billsimms2511 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. It works well in This is Us and Lost but not in a series like the Stand 😂😂😂
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 3 жыл бұрын
Hoping HBO will adapt this soon and actually tell the story in a linear fashion.
@Chipiliro613
@Chipiliro613 3 жыл бұрын
I blame Lost.
@robotrix
@robotrix 3 жыл бұрын
But even when Lost writers don't do that (Prometheus, ST Into Darkness, or anything by JJ Abrams for that matter) they still suck.
@DalePWhyte
@DalePWhyte 3 жыл бұрын
This comment reminds me of something I saw 5 years ago... *gazes into the sky*
@josephmayfield945
@josephmayfield945 3 жыл бұрын
I tried watching a recut that someone did, that fixes the flashbacks. The problem is that the show runners have said in interviews, that they dont think the actual plague is important, so they pretty much skip it. How they were allowed to that I'll never know; such a dumb idea. Anyways, I made it about twenty minutes in the new cut, and was frustrated by how none of the break down of society was shown (best part of the book), and turned it off -- such a wasted opportunity.
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 3 жыл бұрын
The writers of this show made a lot of dumb choices. Hoping HBO will redo this show and get a better director, I think Jon Favreau would be a perfect choice.
@ShadowSonic2
@ShadowSonic2 3 жыл бұрын
The reason they skipped the plague was to save money, that way they wouldn't have to show all the chaos and destruction and cities falling apart. And probably they didn't want to show the US Military being such bastards to the News reporters and civilians.
@aarondavis8943
@aarondavis8943 2 жыл бұрын
It's a bit like doing a show about a serial killer and not including the murders. I'm not interested in Ted Bundy's domestic life. I don't have to see the kills like a cheap slasher, but the activities during the killing phases *are* what make the person interesting and his story horrific, so focusing on those parts of his life are critical to the story. Well duh. I can't stand (yep) when pretend intellectuals do this kind of thing to a story. In The Stand's case, I most enjoyed the spectacle of society collapsing under the weight of a magnitude 100 crisis; how people would adapt and survive and how other people wouldn't. The religious stuff for me were secondary at best, but at the very least, the plague is half the fucking book. So yeah. The people who organized this train wreck deserved all the ridicule they got.
@ShadowSonic2
@ShadowSonic2 2 жыл бұрын
@@aarondavis8943 Yeah, the best parts of The Stand are first 2/3 if the book. Once they go to battle Flagg in Vegas, it's when it falls apart
@escalatingbarbarism5096
@escalatingbarbarism5096 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericcartman7361 If Favreau is even still active in 2040 or so when the next Stephen King boom hits and they remake this again.
@HylianFox3
@HylianFox3 3 жыл бұрын
"Did you know the Chinese use the same word for 'crisis' as they do for 'opportunity'?" "Yes, 'crisitunity'!"
@titusmccarthy
@titusmccarthy 3 жыл бұрын
TROOOOOOOOOOOOOO STORY!
@blaisetelfer8499
@blaisetelfer8499 3 жыл бұрын
I actually think they did a great job with Harold, that is assuming they were intentionally going for "homicidal incel energy"
@KS-PNW
@KS-PNW 2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much how he was written
@escalatingbarbarism5096
@escalatingbarbarism5096 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought that was the laziest thing they could've done with the character. Harold predates the mainstream "killer nerd" trope by decades, and reducing him to an even cheaper modern stereotype really weakened the character. In the book he could be sympathetic at times, and then legitimately spooky when he becomes fixated on Fran and making bombs. The 1994 version wasn't amazing but it was still somewhat nuanced compared to the whiny school shooter in this one.
@bababui69foru
@bababui69foru 2 жыл бұрын
@@escalatingbarbarism5096 He was also only 16 in the book.
@husker4life109
@husker4life109 Жыл бұрын
That’s honestly pretty similar to how he is in the book
@richardalvarado-ik9br
@richardalvarado-ik9br Жыл бұрын
Crispin Glover finally got too old!
@demilung
@demilung 3 жыл бұрын
"Accidentally" is probably the only way we're getting Children of the Corn remake
@CeeJayThe13th
@CeeJayThe13th 3 жыл бұрын
There was a Children Of The Corn "remake" in like 2009. I really liked it, personally but it's a lot more like the original story than the original movie.
@cleverlydevisedmyth
@cleverlydevisedmyth 10 ай бұрын
it wouldve been more fun if Children of the Corn was tied in with The Stand, like the survivors go to Nebraska to find Abigail and instead run into those weird kids in Gatlin. And Randall Flagg is revealed as He who Walks behind the Rows. There would be no where to run to. That would've been more exciting, but it's just my mental fanfiction
@Thegr8MC
@Thegr8MC 3 жыл бұрын
How does the version that's several hours longer then the original feel like the Cliffnotes version!?
@AMac-qd6ft
@AMac-qd6ft 3 жыл бұрын
The Mini Twix joke had a more complete story arc than anything in the whole show.
@jmalmsten
@jmalmsten 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one that was confused about the title sequence of each episode of TAN, I mean, STAN, I mean, STAND.
@riakun
@riakun 3 жыл бұрын
Character: *signs "nice to meet you"* Me: "Oh, 'nice to meet you'. Is that boy deaf?" Cinema Snob: "Fuck you too!" Me: *snorts with laughter* I don't know why that was so funny, but I enjoyed that joke
@gretchgrundmann5266
@gretchgrundmann5266 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the bullet for me on this one. The Stand is one of my all time favorite novels and this is.. well.. not it.
@matthewjaco847
@matthewjaco847 3 жыл бұрын
"All that does is make me wish Mike Flanagan had done this series instead." YES!
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 3 жыл бұрын
I think Paul Thomas Anderson would’ve been a good choice to direct this.
@sumpmiffot
@sumpmiffot 3 жыл бұрын
"This is a world where one percent of the population survived in a series where I only like one percent of the scenes". Perfectly sums up my experience with the first episode as well.
@drstrangelove307
@drstrangelove307 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame, cause the scenes and parts that are good, are actually pretty good. And those good scenes hurt the most because it shows that there was potential there for the entire series to be good.
@billsimms2511
@billsimms2511 3 жыл бұрын
Summed up my experience with the entire season
@WrecklessEating
@WrecklessEating 3 жыл бұрын
I
@fuzer909
@fuzer909 3 жыл бұрын
We love you as well Wreckless Eating.
@axelord1942
@axelord1942 3 жыл бұрын
I
@PowerGlove79
@PowerGlove79 3 жыл бұрын
I
@ryans756
@ryans756 3 жыл бұрын
*reckless
@DarlingMissDarling
@DarlingMissDarling 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryans756 huh?
@Jaytaxman
@Jaytaxman 3 жыл бұрын
I know I say this every few months, but thank you for watching this crap and reporting back to us so we don't have to watch it and can still sound informed and snobby to our friends.
@ericfaith2810
@ericfaith2810 3 жыл бұрын
I still like the original The Stand because Jamey Sheridan actually bears an eerie resemblance to the lithographer Gustav Doré's depiction of the Florentine poet Dante's Satan.
@CeeJayThe13th
@CeeJayThe13th 3 жыл бұрын
I feel smarter just having read this comment
@KayKay114
@KayKay114 3 жыл бұрын
I can see it but I just love Alexander Skarsgard. IMHO Satan should be attractive, afterall he was god's most beautiful angel? At least that's what I heard. I'm not 100% sure
@ryans756
@ryans756 2 жыл бұрын
@@KayKay114 His name was Lucifer before the Fall. He was beautiful then. But when he became Satan, he probably didn't look like Alexander Skarsgard.
@sidnew2739
@sidnew2739 2 жыл бұрын
Sheridan has no resemblance at all to Doré's depiction.
@jmalmsten
@jmalmsten 3 жыл бұрын
Also. As I was listening through the audio book version as the episodes came out, I was chocked that there was no episode centered around the dog. Because... If it's one thing I learned from the book. It's to NEVER underestimate the badassery of Kojak!
@johnhart7704
@johnhart7704 3 жыл бұрын
I look forward to the Langoliers re-make.
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s just hope it doesn’t suck like The Stand.
@ShadowSonic2
@ShadowSonic2 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericcartman7361 Well, the original Langoliers sucked in the first place
@GrantHolmstrom
@GrantHolmstrom 2 жыл бұрын
Haha should be better than the Maximum Overdrive remake
@cjstrikercbr3013
@cjstrikercbr3013 3 жыл бұрын
5:52 ”Did You DAYS Earlier after your MONTHS Earlier!?” Yes, it’s Frank Miller style of Time-Logic! 🤪 ⏰ 👍
@SwaggyG_2102
@SwaggyG_2102 3 жыл бұрын
No remake could ever top the original The Stand series.
@derkeheath5172
@derkeheath5172 2 жыл бұрын
Although the writing was pretty solid the execution (mostly direction and acting) was super cheesy and ruined it for me.
@earlbutters
@earlbutters Жыл бұрын
The last episode was actually the best episode of the series. I was the most engaged.
@Orochi_001
@Orochi_001 3 жыл бұрын
The guy playing Tom isn’t even attempting to pass for 42 as a man pushing 60
@SenieSingsSongs
@SenieSingsSongs 3 жыл бұрын
'...This series is rich with props that speak.' Truer words were never spoken, man. I love the book and the original miniseries had its problems. But this series... This series was such a missed opportunity. It could have brought in a whole new generation of fans. Instead, it's such a dumpster fire of suck that I couldn't turn away! It actually hurt to watch them botch things so badly and drop the ball so completely. I'll take the 1994 miniseries any day. At least that director knew how to tell a damn story!
@Herah636
@Herah636 3 жыл бұрын
When I heard about the casting choices for this version, I had already noped out of it. Now, seeing it's 9 hours worth of content that's like someone put Quentin Tarantino in a blender and then spilled it onto the floor like a giant jigsaw puzzle to be put back together by Tom Cullen. Thanks, I'll stick with the book.
@kevinthecollector818
@kevinthecollector818 3 жыл бұрын
Yay something to pass the time while it snows in texas
@tskmaster3837
@tskmaster3837 3 жыл бұрын
2:25 No Blue Oyster Cult? I already hate it. I always loved how the first series started with "Don't Fear the Reaper" because the book started with "Don't Fear the Reaper", like it adapted the book or something. ... fine, the 2020 Stand didn't even start at the start because people have to be spoon fed a 40 year old book from an author no one ever heard of.
@TheColdOne
@TheColdOne 3 жыл бұрын
They included it in the credits of one of the episodes... I think episode 3 or 4?
@JacksonHerod
@JacksonHerod Жыл бұрын
It's at the end of one of the episodes for sure.
@slashingkatie7872
@slashingkatie7872 3 жыл бұрын
Finally I get to see it. Still we didn’t get a scene of everyone buying up toilet paper and a bunch of teens partying while dying
@theinternetjerk9597
@theinternetjerk9597 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the book and the original miniseries. This one on the other hand was just as Snob said hours longer yet removing how the virus got out to public and placing it a few episodes in sucked. The fucked up editing removed any emotional connection.
@lutherheggs451
@lutherheggs451 3 жыл бұрын
The original miniseries wasn't good either......People need to stop trying to turn Stephen King's work into movies, it rarely actually works out well, even worse when they feel it needs to be a television miniseries. None of them have been good. Even King admits he's not a good writer and doesn't understand why people like his novels, but atleast they're better than all of the TV miniseries and most of the movies....Hell The Running Man wouldn't have been good if it hadn't had Arnold in it.
@LeCreuset05
@LeCreuset05 3 жыл бұрын
@@lutherheggs451 The original miniseries was pretty cheesy but it was better than this shit.
@wingsandash
@wingsandash 3 жыл бұрын
@@lutherheggs451 Gerald's Game, Dolores Claiborne, Kubrick's The Shining, despite King's own opinion.
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 3 жыл бұрын
Hoping HBO will redo The Stand with Jon Favreau as director.
@thalia5382
@thalia5382 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this while working in the lab seems fitting
@StarShipGray
@StarShipGray 3 жыл бұрын
A CBS All Access production that sucks at pacing, character development and plot despite having a vastly inflated budget compared to another production of the same title from more than 25 years earlier? Who could have possibly expected that? (Looks awkwardly over at Discovery and Picard.)
@HylianFox3
@HylianFox3 3 жыл бұрын
it's crazy to me how much better Lower Decks is than both of those and it's a friggin' animated comedy.
@matthewmoran5297
@matthewmoran5297 3 жыл бұрын
+Skye Gray Meh. I kind of like _Picard_ .
@StarShipGray
@StarShipGray 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewmoran5297 But I doubt that you like it better than TNG.
@ShadowSonic2
@ShadowSonic2 9 ай бұрын
@@HylianFox3 It helps that no one was out to hate Picard and Discover from Day One unlike Lower Decks
@vincentheslin9636
@vincentheslin9636 3 жыл бұрын
Was really hoping this would have outdone the 94 miniseries, but the flashback/flash forward concept doesn't allow the audience to grow and learn about each character in a satisfying way. With the extra time, they could have focused on each characters back story, more scenes with Flagg etc.
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 3 жыл бұрын
Hope another streaming platform will buy the rights to The Stand because this book is too good to be adapted terribly.
@somethingclever8916
@somethingclever8916 Жыл бұрын
It would be better told chronology and it was bad with introducing characters
@electroliteful
@electroliteful 3 жыл бұрын
Best line in the episode was: “Are you sure that’s what you want?”
@quinnzykir
@quinnzykir 3 жыл бұрын
I hate that Hulu canceled castle Rock but cbs went. Sure let’s shit over the stand. Not like people hated our other original content
@jordanhunter1211
@jordanhunter1211 3 жыл бұрын
Castle Rock was a great show
@garyhall7867
@garyhall7867 3 жыл бұрын
If anybody has read the book, this tells you why Larry's mother thought hesounded the way he did on his album
@mrjbaird4717
@mrjbaird4717 3 жыл бұрын
Im surprised they didn't put a line in about Larry sounding white.
@CeeJayThe13th
@CeeJayThe13th 3 жыл бұрын
That brown sound sure do get around. (also, wasn't that line in the original mini-series?)
@madizzle90
@madizzle90 3 жыл бұрын
@@CeeJayThe13th It was.
@mariadocarmosobreira8323
@mariadocarmosobreira8323 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, really. After all, it's cool to be racist against white people.
@garyhall7867
@garyhall7867 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericcartman7361 if you ever saw the Watchmen series they did, you know that's not going to happen
@NathanDav42
@NathanDav42 3 жыл бұрын
Very well done. The editing DID kill this series. It made Harold WAY too important as a character, it never showed how Fran and Stu began a relationship (we just see them together in the ‘present’ of the premiere and then he comforts her one night on their journey and we’re left to deduce ‘I guess it started there.’) Nick and Tom barely mattered at all (and it skipped through Tom healing Stu’s infection with Nick’s ghostly help) and now-Rae Brentner DIDN’T matter at all. It also left out some of my absolute favorite scenes from the book, like when Harold doesn’t believe Stu about what happened at the CDC center in Stovington, VT and he, Frannie, and Glen all go in and see the wreck in there and Glen (who did believe Stu but wanted to see for himself) puts 2 and 2 together and realizes how close the one doctor came to killing Stu, and he actually kicks the corpse in his angriest moment in the whole story. There were some great moments in the 2020 Stand, the performances were almost all excellent and the series looked great. But wow did editing just kill it entirely.
@leob4403
@leob4403 Жыл бұрын
They made some of the most baffling creative choices I've ever seen, it's like they were sabotaging the story on purpose
@DCMarvelMultiverse
@DCMarvelMultiverse 3 жыл бұрын
Fiction: Things get crazy out there America: Hold my beer!
@theinternetjerk9597
@theinternetjerk9597 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yes! By the way is that a Scott Free/Mr. Miracle profile picture? Good for you.
@DCMarvelMultiverse
@DCMarvelMultiverse 3 жыл бұрын
@@theinternetjerk9597Yeah, I do vids on DC.
@robo-nidai4236
@robo-nidai4236 3 жыл бұрын
And we're back from a copyright claim! Here's to hoping this doesn't get taken down again.
@JoeChillton
@JoeChillton 3 жыл бұрын
I'll admit the last episode with hopes of Skarsgaard returning and the pros listed, makes me wanna watch it.
@leob4403
@leob4403 Жыл бұрын
​@@ericcartman7361hopefully not
@josephmayfield945
@josephmayfield945 3 жыл бұрын
The number one theme destroying modern visual story telling is bad scripts. I don’t know if people need to start taking a narrative class or what. But most stuff I see wouldn’t pass a creative writing 101 review - really bumming me out.
@jamesdanton9033
@jamesdanton9033 3 жыл бұрын
That and forced diversity and social justice themes.
@josephmayfield945
@josephmayfield945 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdanton9033 while I do find forced diversity and sjw messages obnoxious. I don't believe it's as prevalent as the outrage mob on the Right would have you believe. At this point anytime there's a black lead or a female lead, they clutch their pearls and scream about woke messages -- when it's hardly that.
@matthewmoran5297
@matthewmoran5297 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdanton9033 I can sort of tolerate the forced diversity. Scripts that don't keep me interested or leave me confused are harder. I'm surprised no one is talking about Floria Sigimondi's adaptation of _The_ _Turning_ _Of_ _The_ _Screw_ . That movie pissed me off the most during 2020.
@jamesdanton9033
@jamesdanton9033 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewmoran5297 I can't. The oscars are now a joke with the new rules that absolutely mandate forced diversity. It's like blacks and women can't do anything for themselves and need to be shoehorned in...even though they NEVER have had to be. Insanity. I feel sorry for everyone because it helps no one do anything. And plots that feel authentic or that might go against woke orthodoxy? Forget it. Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who, the woke body count of destroyed cultural icons goes on...
@billsimms2511
@billsimms2511 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdanton9033 forced diversity just doesn’t fit certain shows. The constant social justice themes are beyond tired at this point. Whenever I see them pop up now I turn the show off for good
@neenareadsalot7563
@neenareadsalot7563 3 жыл бұрын
I laughed at "Weekly? Don't you know how entitled we all are?" I actually waited to watch until it was over, I just want to binge it over a weekend while I knit. Now that Cinema Snob has blessed us with his review of it, this weekend, it is. :)
@randomephemera3268
@randomephemera3268 3 жыл бұрын
Old man turkey neck? Now we finally know what's up with Mitch McConnell!
@Yukinoomoni
@Yukinoomoni 3 жыл бұрын
If only...
@jbjacobs9514
@jbjacobs9514 3 жыл бұрын
Now if it could only be accompanied with the exploding Turkey gravy on the floor of the Senate.
@scitechian
@scitechian 3 жыл бұрын
No, his problem is that his upper lip is the same width as his forehead.
@KabbalahSherry
@KabbalahSherry 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly 🥴🤣🦃 LMAOOO
@wingsandash
@wingsandash 3 жыл бұрын
I think McConnell gives a whole new meaning to 'turtle-neck'.
@JetScreamer_YT
@JetScreamer_YT 3 жыл бұрын
I lie here stoned and ready for bed. I had this urge to grab my phone and comment. I appreciate you! You always make me laugh, and we have similar tastes. Thanks for doing this. Watching your videos has saved me countless hours. I also enjoy watching the videos of stuff I've seen too. Seriously, this last year has been pretty hard. Of course my friends help. But so do healthy diversions. Take care
@emperortrevornorton3119
@emperortrevornorton3119 3 жыл бұрын
I found the original the stand DVD set the day I heard that the remake was out
@jamesdanton9033
@jamesdanton9033 3 жыл бұрын
Bought it on Bluray. Looks great, all on one disc and isn't the new one. Thumbs up.
@emperortrevornorton3119
@emperortrevornorton3119 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdanton9033 lucky bastard but I only paid $5 for it on DVD so I guess we are both lucky bastards
@jamesdanton9033
@jamesdanton9033 3 жыл бұрын
@@emperortrevornorton3119 We both have the physical media in our hands, yes we are lucky.
@SeptienPatterson
@SeptienPatterson 3 жыл бұрын
“Sorry, she’s just laughing at his bad the Craft reboot is.” Golden material
@Pseudowolf
@Pseudowolf 3 жыл бұрын
5:26 I grew up in Killeen. They misspelled the name. Also there wouldn’t be an army research facility there. It would be at Fort Hood which literally borders Killeen.
@slothman1016
@slothman1016 3 жыл бұрын
Woo-hoo I can finally finish the review!! I wouldn't know the new Stand is bad unless I saw every part, I might pick up at the end.
@Hyreia
@Hyreia 3 жыл бұрын
If they wanted to do an experimentally edited , longer version, maybe they should have just followed one person/group at a time.
@librarianseth5572
@librarianseth5572 3 жыл бұрын
I thought you meant a real life documentary during the pandemic
@drstrangelove307
@drstrangelove307 3 жыл бұрын
When I saw the first Episode I honestly thought that’s what they were originally doing since it seemed like the majority of the first one was focused a lot on Harold, then they had Stu’s story intercut in there and I was thinking “huh that’s weird, I guess maybe they had him in here to establish a bit more about the Virus and also since his story is pretty connected to Fran and Harold’s” then the next episodes came out and it just felt like they were jumping between characters at random.
@ShadowSonic2
@ShadowSonic2 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericcartman7361 I think making Rat Man into Rat Woman was just so they could have Fiona Dourif (Brad Dourif's daughter) as a hammy villain. I didn't mind
@escalatingbarbarism5096
@escalatingbarbarism5096 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowSonic2 She probably would've been a better Nadine, she could've broken typecasting by playing a character who's seeming normal but a little weird at first and then gone crazy and then catatonic by the end. It definitely would've been a better choice than Amber Heard if nothing else, who will now be seen as a black mark on this already bad adaptation (along with Ezra Miller). They already had to remove her from the publicity cycle leading up to the show's release because of the Johnny Depp drama and that's not looking to shake out in her favor now.
@benjamintriplett3
@benjamintriplett3 Жыл бұрын
​@@escalatingbarbarism5096 she would've been a very interesting Nadine. Or Susan for that matter, Susan was supposed to be a good friend of Frannie and Stu's who died in the bombing. But for some reason they killed her off in this one without any word.
@alphaxneo
@alphaxneo 3 жыл бұрын
I feel better for not being the only one thinking "oh, Jesus DJ" in the last episode lol
@CimyrRazely
@CimyrRazely 3 жыл бұрын
It’s back baby! Worth the wait Snob!
@txbuzzkill6276
@txbuzzkill6276 3 жыл бұрын
I still haven't seen this version, so I'm sitting through this almost 2 hours video. I'm sure I'm enjoying it more than if I watched it. Excellent review, I'm subscribed now!
@toshirodragon
@toshirodragon 3 жыл бұрын
I have a special fondness for the original, in part because ROB LOWE, but mostly because part of it was filmed in and around my hometown. The scene where Nick & Tom meet is just down the street from my house. It was the old red light district, but is now trendy restaurants, cute boutiques and hip bars.
@deusexmachina2222
@deusexmachina2222 2 жыл бұрын
Are you in Salt Lake City? (The Vincent drug is also in Halloween 4 and 5)
@toshirodragon
@toshirodragon 2 жыл бұрын
@@deusexmachina2222 Nope, in Ogden.
@lizerman74
@lizerman74 3 жыл бұрын
Was going to download this somewhere and binge watch, but now I think I'll pass. Really sad how this turned out. Ah well, I'm happy with the original miniseries. Lieutenant Dan will always be my one true Stu.
@svenjansen2134
@svenjansen2134 5 ай бұрын
Like Max Headroom is the original Trash Can Man.
@hoodedman6579
@hoodedman6579 3 жыл бұрын
I decided to watch the other Stand review before this one, and when I came back it was copyright blocked... I'm glad that it came back relatively quickly.
@DigiRangerScott
@DigiRangerScott 3 жыл бұрын
1:40 a joke that aged well in light of the article complaining about Wandavision being too slow
@DarkLorddReviews
@DarkLorddReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Cinema snob reviewing a documentary on 2020? Hell yeah!
@WayneManor666
@WayneManor666 3 жыл бұрын
This is a surprise supreme, i will enjoy this very much. Thank you , Mr. Snob.
@markymarkartwork6268
@markymarkartwork6268 3 жыл бұрын
Watching The snobs reviews are better than watching the movie 😂
@virginiadare1587
@virginiadare1587 3 жыл бұрын
Marsden is good, but he's no mid-90s Sinese. Alex is a good choice for a 25 years later replacement for Jamey Sheridan.
@trannyturtle69696969
@trannyturtle69696969 3 жыл бұрын
Ew.
@thejonner2036
@thejonner2036 3 жыл бұрын
"In a dumpster, banging corpses." Cheers, Snob - my laptop's now covered in coffee.
@cecilhester
@cecilhester 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this miniseries more than Brad did, but I agree with his assessment on the editing. Great review as always, Brad.
@The_finestsocialworker
@The_finestsocialworker 3 жыл бұрын
This is perfect timing while I'm home for President's Day with nothing but crap on TV! Thanks Snob!!
@idlethreat7193
@idlethreat7193 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, with 9 episodes they could have followed the book verbatim...instead they jump around and cut out back stories. Hell, a big revelation in the book was when Nadine's black & white streaked hair turned all white...now they have her as a blonde. I just don't understand why they made it this way.
@colinherzog8782
@colinherzog8782 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this review since they announced the series. Worth the wait! Looking forward to the Faith Under Fire one, fingers crossed
@bleakautomaton4808
@bleakautomaton4808 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if someone could do a recut of this jumbled stuff into a better structured series of events, and if that would help this adaptation or not. Lol
@fullfiledprophecies
@fullfiledprophecies 3 жыл бұрын
Someone did! If you look at the stand subreddit they posted it as “The Dnats”. Their goal was to re-edit it chronologically and a few other edits to help the overall flow. I think they just posted the first six episodes too!
@collegeman1988
@collegeman1988 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same the same thing, like a Phantom Edit of Episode I of Star Wars. The producers of this miniseries should know The Stand isn’t Lost. This Stephen King novel actually had a beginning, a middle and a conclusion with a point.
@matthewmoran5297
@matthewmoran5297 3 жыл бұрын
@@fullfiledprophecies That's perfect! I've been wanting to give this miniseries a look without having to deal with this crappy editing!
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 3 жыл бұрын
It won’t help this adaptation. Too many boring parts and terrible acting by some actors. The only way to do The Stand right is have HBO redo the show with better writing and a better cast.
@billsimms2511
@billsimms2511 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericcartman7361 agree, the acting was shaky at times. The casting was meh as well
@gottagetitgaming7759
@gottagetitgaming7759 4 ай бұрын
I too am in the mood for pancakes! I almost fell off my chair laughing. Perfect line.
@spoonbendingspacemonkey
@spoonbendingspacemonkey 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I've read the book and saw the 94 miniseries - watching this, I'm not sure the show runners did either. It seems like they heard the story from someone who kept forgetting parts and having to go back. Also, I haven't seen this version, but, I'm 53:50 mins into the review and there's a character who hasn't been mentioned - Trashcan - but no biggie, it's not like he's important or anything.
@ShadowSonic2
@ShadowSonic2 2 жыл бұрын
Funny you say that...Trash DOES show up 1 hour into the review so you just missed him!
@christopherjones5446
@christopherjones5446 3 жыл бұрын
Why does Nick look like Pirate Kylo Ren.
@CyberSpider35
@CyberSpider35 3 жыл бұрын
I even thought it was him at first.
@BulletTooth504
@BulletTooth504 3 жыл бұрын
A mashup of Kylo Ren and Captain Jack Sparrow could've saved the sequel trilogy.
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 3 жыл бұрын
Why was he dressed like a poor person character from a Shakespeare play? I hope HBO will redo this crap and give us a better updated version of The Stand.
@christopherjones5446
@christopherjones5446 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericcartman7361 Taking the focus away from Harold Lauder is a good start. As well as showing the actual pandemic instead of showing it in flashbacks.
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Nicolas Cage would’ve been the perfect Choice for Trashcan Man. Leave a like if you agree
@KayKay114
@KayKay114 3 жыл бұрын
18:08 "Fuck you too! 😠" IDKY but that had me rolling 🤣😂🤣
@SerasChan
@SerasChan 3 жыл бұрын
God damn! If I didn't know the source, I'd have no idea who most of these people were and what story they were trying to tell
@carveraugustus3840
@carveraugustus3840 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff Snob. Also congratulations Laura and Brad
@rofalsaurasrex366
@rofalsaurasrex366 3 жыл бұрын
is it me or is the role Amber Heard the perfect kind of mirrors true life lol
@drstrangelove307
@drstrangelove307 3 жыл бұрын
It definitely is lol
@ericcartman7361
@ericcartman7361 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how this show pandered to feminism with all the unnecessary gender swapping and had Amber Heard in it who used feminism to blame Johnny Depp who is the real victim. Josh Boone and Benjamen Cavell suck, Amber Heard belongs in prison.
@LoganBluth
@LoganBluth 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericcartman7361 How is Depp the "real victim"...? Because there's an easily available video of Depp screaming at Heard in a drunken rage, throwing bottles around, smashing glass doors, punching walls, basically acting like an abusive lunatic. And it's not difficult to see how Depp could have cut that gash into his own finger while smashing all that glass and then blamed it on Heard at a later date. Now *_maybe_* Heard gave as good as she got, all we have is Depp's word against her's, but at BEST it seems like they might be just as bad as each other - Two incredibly toxic and unpleasant people who ripped seven shades of shit out of each other over the course of an extremely unhealthy relationship. However, if you have some new evidence proving that she's lying and he's telling the truth then by all means...? Also, how do you "use feminism" to blame someone for something...? She claimed Depp abused her, he claimed she abused him. Neither of these claims have anything to do with feminism - Domestic abuse isn't a feminist issue and freedom from abuse should be a basic human right expected by everyone.
@tultsi93
@tultsi93 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoganBluth Depp's family and friends have proved in the court he has done nothing wrong. Screaming while being drunk isn't abusive, he didn't target any of those to Heard. He didn't attack her. Heard is a manipulative bitch spreading lies to destroy his career and reputation. She was the one being violent and abusive, and exposed herself in the interrogation by an accident. Even her own father proved against her. The court tapes are able to listen by everyone, and many KZbinrs are keeping people updated about the situation.
@escalatingbarbarism5096
@escalatingbarbarism5096 2 жыл бұрын
@@LoganBluth Do you regret this comment now?
@DonnaBrooks
@DonnaBrooks 10 ай бұрын
14:02 Is that Heather Graham? I've only been half-ass listening to the audio, not watching the vid, so this is the first I've seen this character.
@ShadowSonic2
@ShadowSonic2 10 ай бұрын
Yep, it was her! Her character wasn't in the 1994 version
@biffyqueen
@biffyqueen 4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowSonic2 Really in the 94 version, Nadine was made more like Rita and then Lucy was made more like Nadine in the book (minus the crazy)
@xKynOx
@xKynOx 3 жыл бұрын
Never knew this was thing, some good advertising they had there.
@jamesdanton9033
@jamesdanton9033 3 жыл бұрын
What were they going to say? 'Watched the original and loved it? Dazzled by the amazing cast? Have we got a serious downgrade for you!'
@hoodedman6579
@hoodedman6579 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdanton9033 I mean, the person you are responding to didn't know that it existed at all, so "this exists" would have been a start.
@jamesdanton9033
@jamesdanton9033 3 жыл бұрын
@@hoodedman6579 I hear you, and I got that message. It didn't make the show any less like my description! The lack of knowledge shows you that they knew this was not worth advertising: that would have cost them good money...after bad, as it were.
@geoffreysorkin5774
@geoffreysorkin5774 3 жыл бұрын
In their defense, watch this series about a deadly virus probably wouldn’t have helped in 2020
@StandWatie1862
@StandWatie1862 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody watches TV anymore. We watch youtube on our phones at work like I'm doing now.
@TheFett79
@TheFett79 3 жыл бұрын
I asked myself why didn't I watch this, and then I see Amber Heard was in it. That's why.
@DionysusVoice
@DionysusVoice 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I love Stephen King and King adaptions, I made the conscious choice not to watch this version on account of Heard.
@whiteydiamond
@whiteydiamond 3 жыл бұрын
As a whole, she's the least of the shows countless problems
@jbjacobs9514
@jbjacobs9514 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we're supposed to actually care about Nadine and being seduced by the Devil. NOT.
@Pha5ma
@Pha5ma 3 жыл бұрын
@@DionysusVoice definitely
@Pha5ma
@Pha5ma 3 жыл бұрын
same
@alphashaitan65
@alphashaitan65 2 жыл бұрын
This movie was the best thing to happen to Amber Heard. For a woman who cannot act, she didn't have to act to play Nadine.
@richardalvarado-ik9br
@richardalvarado-ik9br Жыл бұрын
She's better than Pam Anderson........I think.
@harrypothead42024
@harrypothead42024 8 ай бұрын
Most of the actors in This couldn't Act
@Theadventuresofphilcosby
@Theadventuresofphilcosby 4 ай бұрын
Amber heard really ain't that bad of an actress that's why she's probably such a nut job for a partner
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates 3 жыл бұрын
3:40 is that Krychek? 23:30 nowhere _near_ as good as Jaime Sheridan (the 94 Flagg). He owned that part. At this rate, they could have just retitled this series “5 Months Earlier” 48:05 ... there was a New Monkees?! And why am I getting David Lynch vibes? Is it because the guy on the left looks like Eraserhead and the girl on the left looks like Laura Dern? 1:01:43 who knew Rahm Emmanuel was Chinese. 1:40:00 can we add “if you tint _every fucking scene_ “teal and piss yellow”, it makes everything blend together and enhance the boringness”?
@tskmaster3837
@tskmaster3837 3 жыл бұрын
1:24:10 I should be used to this now but the series SKIPS the climax of the whole story, where Flagg, the Dark Bogeyman/Satan stand in, meets Glen, the unapologetic atheist in a world where God exists but not only picks sides but favorites as well? And Flagg has to talk Lloyd in killing Glen because Flagg can't break Glen or kill him outright because he's losing power all over the place? That's THE Stand, not what happens next. Quoting a comment from that YT video: "This is the moment Flagg became a joke in 1994. I think 2020 Flagg was a much better Flagg." Yes. I'm pretty sure the "writers" of the Stand 2020 felt the same way. See that point way up there? It zipped right over their heads entirely, wasn't even close.
@harryallsopp9136
@harryallsopp9136 3 жыл бұрын
Two things I like about this series. Flagg and Baby, Can You Dig Your Man.
@madizzle90
@madizzle90 3 жыл бұрын
In fairness, the 1994 version was inconsistent about how fast Captain Trips worked as well.
@sidnew2739
@sidnew2739 2 жыл бұрын
It never was. It killed the people in the army base very quick, then it mutated several times (they explained that) and killed people slower. A lot of them tried to somehow escape or find a cure or something and died on their cars. Seems logical to me, especially because different people react in different ways.
@escalatingbarbarism5096
@escalatingbarbarism5096 2 жыл бұрын
It's inconsistent in the book that Campion's trip from California to Texas somehow leads to people in New England being sick within days, but also there's an evil demonic wizard fucking around with everything so it doesn't really need to be perfectly logical.
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 3 жыл бұрын
Patrolling the New Vegas wasteland almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
@Nergalsama01
@Nergalsama01 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. So not only does this series bring up better stuff you could watch, it also brings up games you could play instead.
@bamabat8435
@bamabat8435 2 жыл бұрын
I'll say this much for the update, it's a lot easier to believe a man could be seduced to the dark side by Amber Heard than by Laura SanGiacomo. Although, Heard's being cast as the evil temptress seems a bit on-the-nose, given her real life shenanigans.
@firebladetenn6633
@firebladetenn6633 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! Finally, i can get passed minute 36.
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