The Story of America's Annexation of Hawaiʻi (full documentary)

[@leilanilamour5173]

It’s difficult for me to watch this without getting upset. I grew up in Hawaii and understand why they never taught us this in history classes. They refer to it as “annexation”, but what happened to Hawaii is pure thievery. 😢

[@vp3970]

It’s white wash, ho’ohaole.

[@hippy9309]

What happened in ALL of North America, Puerto Rico, and Hawaii is typical of Europeans.

[@TribeOfSkate]

What do you think happened to the native Americans to North America. Dispossessed of the entire area that the United States is, as well as Canada. And before America did that to Hawai’i, King Kam did to each of the islands that were independent to themselves. And before king Kam 1, was the invasion from Tahiti with the the high priest. There has always been injustice in human history, it’s just what you remember or have not learned of that happened before.

[@TribeOfSkate]

@@vp3970oh it goes further than than white wash, and don’t be confused that all whites were annexationists, there were plenty that were loyal to the queen and were royalists as well. Your vision is just narrow.

[@tawaitai]

@@TribeOfSkateThe difference is Kamehameha was a native of Hawaiian Polynesian ancestry idiot not a foreigner haole!

[@keliikalauokaaeakahele1997]

Hawaiian Kingdom still exist in 2024… Restoration is coming!!!

[@mayfrasonsier]

Larsen case was 25 years ago, and nothing happening. Apology was over 30 years ago, and nothing. Overthrow was 130 years ago, and still nothing. Kanaka going be holding their breath forever, meanwhile SoH and US going do what they like, and the world will just stand and watch. Nobody recognize Hawaii's independence, not even other Pacific Island countries. The best we can hope for is restoring olelo Hawaii and maybe getting us some land back. Independence is out of the question.

[@AHLUser]

De'Nile is a River in Egypt.. Denial is believing that the Kingdom of Hawaii will be 'Restored'.... The ali'i lived 'Fat & Happy' very carefree and privileged lives of luxury, at the great expense of the peasants that toiled to feed & serve them, while living in grass huts as basically 'Share-Croppers'. This was a paradise for those that were born to Chiefs and slavery for the others.

[@Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu]

@@AHLUser You made nothing but gratuitous assertions. Will you cite any support for them from a qualified, authoritative, source? The answer to that one is not unknown.

[@Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu]

@@AHLUser You are evidently not able to discern the difference between kingdom of Hawai’i and the Hawaiian Kingdom, which continues to exist in spite of your ignorance and denial and is very much on the mind of the Adjutant General of the State of Hawai’i Major General Kenneth Hara, who has been unable to find any rebuttable evidence that the Hawaiian Kingdom does not exist! General Hara has admitted this to an interlocutor acting as an intermediary between the General and the Acting Government of the Hawaiian Kingdom, and now has a very critical decision to make, to follow the US Army Field Manual and the laws that are triggered by an occupation, and transform the State of Hawai’i government into a military government that is recogniziable by the Geneva and Hague Conventions that govern occupation, or fail to do it, resulting in possible maximizing of liability for being charged with the war crime of usurpation of sovereignty, but retiring from service without loss of any of the General’s retirement package of benefits, but nevertheless disregarding his responsibility and duty. It has not yet been reported what the General’s decision is. He has announced his retirement in October.

[@Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu]

@@AHLUser Asked for support for your gratuitous and fatuous assertions, your response is la’i! Silence. Evidently you have chosen the wise course of keeping quiet rather than display further ignorance in attempting to defend them. Would have been better for you to have done that instead of posting your falsifiable and specious comments.

[@sandramorey2529]

I would also like to see the treaty. The Hawaiians were not consulted and the US went on to take the Philippines, Cuba, Puerto Rico. Many of the troubles currently can be traced back to allowing the US to get away with overthrowing the popular monarch, hiding the Ku'e petitions and imprisoning the queen for 9 months in her bedroom in the palace. Everyone who spends any time in Honoulu should take an afternoon and go to the Iolani Palace. The docents are prepared to tell you this story and help you understand why it is important for you to know. Oakland CA

[@Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu]

Sandra Morey Unless you can cite evidence for the claim that the Ku’e Petitions were hidden, by who and why, the more likely explanation for the Petitions being forgotten is that they were received, and then archived after the time of the seizure of the territory of the Hawaiian Kingdom had passed. They were forgotten also because from 1906 on, a program of Denationilization and Americanization was carried out in the schools of Hawai’i that was so successful that it very nearly destroyed all national awareness and consciousness of the Hawaiian Kingdom in the minds of generations of Hawaiians for the next sixty years-and then some. For the adults-of the early twentieth century-who remembered their nation and national identity, there was a realization that restoration of the government of the Kingdom was not forthcoming and that they would be better off adapting to the present, though their memories of the Hawaiian Kingdom could not be removed from their minds.

[@AHLUser]

The Queen lived across the street in a house named 'Washington Place'... Iolani Palace was the seat of the Kingdom's Gov't, which was dominated by white Cabinet Ministers that had renounced their US Citizenship and had become legal naturalized Hawaiian Citizens. This allowed them to marry wealthy Hawaiian women, buy property and be appointed to Office by the King. The Queen was detained in the Palace in a Corner Office turned into a Bedroom/Holding Cell. She was treated very well, had servants, musical instruments, books, and home cooked meals. It was not considered an 'imprisonment' but more of a 'captivity' to prevent any rebellion. She abdicated and was released, and she went to D.C. & England to rally for restoration. The US did NOT overthrow the Kingdom, the Provisional Gov't (PG) took control because the Queen wanted to illegally change the Constitution. The PG wanted a ceremonial King/Queen, like present England, with the country run by the Cabinet Ministers.

[@Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu]

@@AHLUser Abdicated? Queen wanted to “illegally” change the Constitution? Under the lawful Constitution of 1864, Her Majesty The Queen couldn’t unilaterally do any such thing as abdication. Thus to say that Her Majesty abdicated is inaccurate and incorrect, and betrays your distorted understanding of the legal and political history of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Do you not know that the “Constitution” HRH Mo’i Wahine Ke Ali’i Aimoku Lili’uokalani was going to replace was not a lawful Constitution because it was imposed by insurgents who threatened HRH King Kalakaua with a violent death if HRH King Kalakaua did not sign their unlawful Constitution? What was illegal about HRH The Queen changing an unlawful Constitution? Do you not know that HRH The Queen was petitioned by two thirds of Her Majesty’s subjects to do that very thing? And there are no citizens in a Constitutional Monarchy, they are called subjects, who along with denizens constituted the population of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Certainly you and your unqualified, non authoritative, subjective, in personem opinions are not worth two thousand rolls of toilet paper! Moreover, your gratuitous claim that the United States was not responsible for the coup de mane and the insurrection of January 17 1893, has been refuted and debunked by a leading figure in the insurrection, Lorrin Thurston, in his book Memoirs Of The Hawaiian Revolution, and by the memo written by US Minister to the Hawaiian Kingdom John Stevens to insurgent Sanford Dole dated January 17 1893 advising Dole that Stevens did not think it wise for the insurgents to publicly announce that he had recognized them until they had gained control of the police station. This memo was the smoking gun piece of evidence that Presidential appointee James Blount was looking for but couldn’t find that proved that Stevens conspired with the insurgents to overthrow the government of the Hawaiian Kingdom, and it was also evidence that Stevens lied under oath when he testified before a congressional committee convened by US Senator John Morgan. Your gratuitous claim of no US involvement in the insurgency is facetious and falsified!

[@Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu]

@@AHLUser Your ridiculous and gratuitous assertion that USA Incorporated didn’t overthrow the lawful government of the Hawaiian Kingdom is falsified by a memo from John Stevens to Sanford Dole that says to Dole that Stevens didn’t think it wise for the insurgents to announce publicly that he had recognized them as a de facto government until they had taken control of the police station; that memo, the original and genuine document, was discovered by Ron Williams among a box of documents that had been donated to the Mission Houses Museum by a descendant of William O. Smith, one of the insurgents and a PG member. This was the smoking gun piece of evidence that James Blount had been looking for to prove that Stevens had collaborated and conspired with the insurgents, enabling them to carry out their insurgency. Your falsified assertion that USA Inc. was not responsible for the insurgency and the overthrow of the government of the Hawaiian Kingdom is thus totally discredited and debunked, and is dismissed with prejudice, as are your other false and gratuitous accusations and assertions. But the Acting Hawaiian Kingdom Government’s Council of Regency is making steady progress in its strategic plan to expose the unlawful occupation of the Hawaiian Kingdom, bring the United States and the State of Hawai’i into compliance with The Hague and Geneva Conventions-the laws of war and occupation, and ultimately bring an end to the unlawful American occupation of the territory of the Hawaiian Kingdom.

[@Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu]

@@AHLUser Your false and gratuitous assertion that the United States was not behind the coup de mane and insurrection of January 1893 has been falsified and thus debunked, discredited, and disproven by the memoirs of the leading insurrectionist, Lorrin Thurston, in his book Memoirs Of The Hawaiian Revolution and by the memo that US Minister to the Hawaiian Kingdom John Stevens wrote to insurgent Sanford Dole on January 17 1893 advising Dole that Stevens did not think it wise for Dole and his fellow insurgents to publicly announce that Stevens had recognized them as a de facto government until they had taken control of the police station. This original document was discovered by Dr. Ron Williams, who has a PhD in Hawaiian History, within the last eight years in a box full of documents that were donated to the Mission Houses Museum by a descendant of insurgent and PG member William O Smith. This memo was the smoking gun piece of evidence that US Presidential appointee James Blount was looking for-but never found-that proved that Stevens was involved in a conspiracy with the insurgents against the lawful government of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Evidently you have made no attempt to first verify or falsify your claim before making it. Thus you and your falsified claim have been exposed as false and is thus debunked.

[@dizzieallday]

No annexation no jurisdiction period

[@shaunacordero2213]

Kiko pau 🤙🏽

[@DirtyCiv1973]

This book i read when it first was published, it is the best literature i came across that goes in great depth and detail within the history of how the kingdom of Hawai'i was "corruptly" overthrown by touching base on the Oligarchy. This book is court documented.

[@remarkablemushroomemporium]

What book are you referring to?

[@kalania14]

I just got a book by Tom Coffman called Nation Within: The History of the American Occupation of Hawaii. It’s a good read.

[@nateowen1064]

I’m not even from Hawaii but I say #FreeHawaii

[@The.Adept.Chamber]

1. Read: 'Nation Within: The History of the American Occupation of Hawai'i' (Book by Tom Coffman) 2. The Hawaiian Kingdom continues to exist as an independent and sovereign country up to the present day (which is currently being illegally occupied by the U.S.).

[@HIKD1843]

💯💯💯

[@kalania14]

Just picked it up. It’s a well written book

[@jasonsan6708]

1:22:51 correction the United States only acquired Guam not the Northern Mariana Islands which were sold by Spain to Germany the following year and taken by Japan during WW1. It was only after ww2 that the United States gained control of the Northern Mariana Islands.

[@kekoamaunakea4473]

My Kapunawahine Nui Haku lei and made Lei for Dole plantation visitors, Honolulu Star did a special article about my loving Kapunawahine Nui and her wonderful magical Pua. Tutu had a beautiful A-frame redwood home on 4 acres which tutu grew the “Nani Plumeria (Melia)” rows of such pua tree’s . Delicious Hawaiian Mountain Apple’s and ginger floral plants, and Nani Pikake plants, these were all pua Tutu made her special lei’s for special occasions. Tutu’s house was amazing because my Nui ,Kupuna Nui, was a carpenter and a green thumb agriculturalist and landscaper. My Tutu’s maiden name is Kahou, both tutu’s parents were pure Kanaka Maoli on my Father’s side of the OHANA. Moms side was my Kupunawahine Nui pure Hawaiian and my Nui, Kupuna,Nui was half Hawaiian I believe. Tutu taught hula my Makuahine side of da OHANA, also ukulele lessons and piano. Anyway Mahalo Nui Loa for giving the real story behind a Po’e who’s history was stolen beyond replacement due to the terrible lies and cover ups and attempted genocidal murdering. ML&Aloha Duke&Ohana.

[@KuusFaddah_44]

Show me the treaty 💯

[@georgeacenas2349]

This is an interesting documentary as I am a Filipino-Yankee born who surfs. I am well aware it is a sport of the Alii, not so much the beach image of California- and the media. Maybe Southeastern USA and Hawaii USA also have common histories- compulsory integration into the Union. It's a very thought. provoking piece of journalism. Maraming salamat po.

[@KuusFaddah_44]

@@georgeacenas2349 Hawaii is not part of the USA 🤙🏽 stolen jus like Puerto Rico

[@KuusFaddah_44]

Show me the treaty 💯

[@hawaiianhistory1012]

After watching this debauchery of democracy, oh ye Americans, will you not desire a careful consideration and further inspection into the censure of Hawaiian sovereignty by a joint resolution by Francis Newlands, an Klan leader, and John Tyler Morgan of Mississippi also a Klan leader, and not connect the dots between the end of the civil war the end of slavery, but not the end of the business model of plantations. The fact that this “Republic” of Hawai’i was about as democratic as Banana Republic a corporate institution of self election… Can’t you all see, just as the Hawaiian government was overthrown by oligarchs, look at Americas government today. The Big 5, 3 of the 5 owners of HECO all participated in the overthrow. Why should any American care about Hawaiis history and injustice? Well how do I put this an injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere, and the American addiction to expansionism forces American taxes to fund endless overthrows while it’s people are amongst the sickest amongst developed nations… no annexation of Hawai’i is a myth. Hawaii remains an American occupation. When you visit YOU and YOUR family are visiting an occupied country. Remember you can ovethrow a nation’s government but not the nation itself! Just as America invaded Iraq and Iraq remained a foreign sovereign country, how is it different for the Hawaiian Kingdom where is Hawaiis treaty of annexation?

[@vp3970]

According to Google the mongoose was introduced to Hawaii in 1893 but I believe it was earlier they were called: missionaries and the alaka’i was Thurston and Dole the traitor.

[@PAKALOLOBANDIT]

I SAW MOGOOSES WAY BEFORE 1983 MAYBE 1883 THEY WERE HERE I GUESS

[@vp3970]

@@PAKALOLOBANDIT Kalamai ia’u, naʻu ka hewa. It was 1893.

[@PAKALOLOBANDIT]

@@vp3970 MY BAD BRADA I MUST READ WRONG I THOUGHT IT SAID 1983 AND I WISH I COULD UNDERSTAND HAWAIIAN. ALOHA

[@vp3970]

It did say 1983 i edited it about an What ethnicity are you)

[@vp3970]

@@PAKALOLOBANDIT It did say1983 and I edited about an hour ago. What ethnicity are you?

[@nnaeole]

Mahalo for posting!

[@boreksindelka8514]

Does Mahalo mean thank you? Thank you for the answer.

[@Zer0FuXGiv3n]

It was an illegal annexation, period. There were no requirements met.

[@uhfanzonly]

UPDATE the Title: Tom Coffman himself changed it to the Occupation of Hawaiʻi.

[@tamlamoore7962]

ASE HEKA AMEN RA AHO MOORE NATION GRAND RISING KARMA ❤❤❤❤❤

[@Wekeslayer]

This this day I don’t consider myself a American, I’m a kanaka . Kahele, Helena, Nu’uha bloodline, I love you kapua bay and ka’u ❤

[@purdykawahilani1304]

The fist school was Lahainaluna!

[@vp3970]

Pololei, a’ole Punahou.

[@Puna_G]

Lahainaluna 1831, Punahou 1841

[@karlos_infamous]

As Haunani Kay Trask said: Mahaoe Haole!!!

[@MrT01582]

Give hawaii back to the hawaiians

[@dranzacspartan8002]

FREE HAWAII!!

[@OperationHawaiiana]

@grandjem6447 free the kingdom of hawai'i from the united stated is what they meant

[@OperationHawaiiana]

@grandjem6447 I got your reply, but it didn't pop up. it said "the UN knows the" I do not know what you meant by this :/ what did you mean to type

[@samnepsland2421]

Free Hawaii love from Fiji 🇫🇯🇫🇯🇫🇯🇫🇯

[@MaliaWaits]

This should come with a trigger warning! It still hurts 😢

[@souza151]

In Nomine Justitia To the august halls of Congress, where democracy's voice resounds, To the venerable chambers of the Supreme Court, where justice's gavel pounds, And to the highest office, held by President Joe Biden's hand, This mystic document, a plea for justice, across the land. In the sacred echoes of history's pages, we find our tale, A saga woven in the fabric of Hawaii, where shadows prevail. From the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, a cultural program took flight, In the embrace of justice, guided by the National Park Service's light. Bishop Museum's native culture and arts, a testament true, Funded by foundations noble, like the Gerbode and Pacific Isles crew. The symphony of justice played, through the Hawaii Committee's grace, And Pacific Islanders in Communications, a bridge to justice's embrace. Yet, in Honolulu's streets, where rifles stood tall, A tale unfolded, a kingdom's fall. The rifles, outwardly loyal, veiled in a conspirator's oath, Justice dimmed, as the Bayonet Constitution took its oath. In the year 1993, a centennial lament, For the overthrow of monarchy, a moment to repent. A retelling of stories, of a queen and conspirators unseen, But unearthing the truth, justice's path in between. From New England's shores they came, with dreams of destiny, A shadowy conspiracy, in the birth of a sugar industry. Luther Severance spoke of annexation, a last resort's plea, But Hawaii's sovereign dream, a vision not to be. Reciprocity, a dance of geopolitical stakes, Pearl River Lagoon, where ambition awakes. Major Schofield's reconnaissance, in a harbor's embrace, A strategic move, justice's veiled face. The Bayonet Constitution, a dark decree, Forcing submission on Kalakaua, a king's decree. A figurehead crowned, power in the shadows, Wealthy elites, white and sugar's meadows. Jon Kamakawiwoole Osorio speaks of consequence, Democracy diminished, a nation's recompense. Reciprocity's renewal, a storm unfurls, American pressure, on the islands swirls. Harrison, Blaine, and Stevens, their plans unfold, Tensions rise, in a sugar market's hold. Pearl Harbor and protectorate, a cruel trance, Native voices protest, justice's dance. Blaine's stall, a treacherous wrong, Reciprocity dies, depression's song. Kalakaua's journey, a quest for grace, Reciprocity's hope, lost in the San Fran embrace. Liliuokalani, on a throne rearrange, A traditional constitution, in the winds of change. Anticipation looms, a power in descent, A diverse myth of overthrow, malcontent. Missionary descendants, in conspirator's seat, W.O. Smith, Thurston, Dole, in shadows fleet. The overthrow unfolds, in justice's lament, In the halls of Congress, Supreme Court, and President. We, the seekers of justice, in mystic decree, Plead to Congress, Supreme Court, and Biden's decree. In Latin's whispers, a timeless plea, Let justice reign, in Hawaii's legacy.

[@alexsdb9712]

Crimes Against Humanity

[@freerangemaker]

Yup, the Kingdom of Hawaii still lives, in my perception. You can imprison the queen, a gang of men with intention to steal land can get support of the U.S. to overthrow the government, you can make concerted effort to completely erase us, try and have us assimilate, but we are still here, thriving, taking our mana back, with some of us diligently working to heal the ancestral wounds in relation to the Hawaiian genocide, and also, growing our Hawaiian tongues back, by learning the language. The U.S. is illegally occupying the Hawaiian Kingdom. Some of us may not be able to live within the pae aina, but still we thrive, we are kanaka maoli through and through and we also honor the diversity of our other ancestral lines. Grateful for the teachings that came this life, and also glad, the hard arse several decade healing journey, well, it has resolved with tremendous focus and effort.

[@sandramorey2529]

What about the many treaties that were signed between European Nations and Hawaii when Kalakaua went on his trip around the world? They signified that Hawaii was a sovereign nation . He was the first ruler of any nation to go to secure treaty recognition of established nations so as to guarentee protection for his nation. The Ku'e petitions against annexation were "lost" for 40 years, but now have been found and relatives of those original signers are signing in again. This is not over. Anyone trying to understand Israel/Palestine should look to Hawaii for precedent.

[@souza151]

In Havaian Mystico Ka Wai O Ka Mālamalama Aloha, kahea mai ka ʻāina lani, I ka wā o ka pōʻeleʻele, ka pōʻeleʻele. He iʻa lani ke ala hou mai nei, Ka lā i pōʻino ai, ka lā i mālamalama ai. Ke ku nei ka pō, ke haʻi mai nei ka mālamalama, Nā hana a ka lani, nā hana a ka honua. Ka wai o ka mālamalama e hoʻāla hou ana, I luna o nā pali, i luna o nā mauna, Ka wai hoʻi e hoʻāla hou ana i nā moʻolelo, Nā moʻolelo o ka honua, nā moʻolelo o ka lani. ʻO ka wai, ka wai o ka mālamalama, ʻO ka lau o ka lani, ʻo ka lau o ka honua. Aia i ka ʻaoʻao o ke ao, i loko o ka poe hana, Ka poe hana a ka lani, ka poe hana a ka honua. Eia ka mea nui, ka mea nui o nā mea a pau, Ka mālamalama iā kākou, ka mālamalama o ke ao. E hoʻomau, e hoʻomau i ke ala o ka mālamalama, I ka huakaʻi loa o ka honua, i ka huakaʻi loa o ka lani. Aloha mai ka wai o ka mālamalama, Ka wai o ka lani, ka wai o ka honua. E pili mau i ka lani, e pili mau i ka honua, I ka mālamalama o ka wā e hiki mai ana.

[@JayNewberyy]

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[@CaptainHi-Top-w5q]

2024 Hawaii Welfare State by their standards

[@darrenkamalu9047]

Annexation is a lie. Occupation is what we have.

[@mistatimbotim]

Truth be told would you rather speak English Pidgin Japanese pigeon or Russian pigeon?

[@samnepsland2421]

Take America to the international court this is wrong...😢😢😢😢😢m so so sorry to my Hawaiian Christian pasifika brothers and sisters 😢😢😢be strong... God will answer u prayers one day keep on praying....u deserve ur independence Hawaiian ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ what a shameful American 🇺🇸🇺🇸 history...may her majesty the queen rest in peace the peace of our lord Jesus Christ alone forever Amen Amen 🌿🕊️🌿♥️♥️♥️

[@vp3970]

She died with a broken heart and no money.

[@farmlyful]

There is no treaty of annexation and the U.S. Congress is bound within its borders. OHA is the mail in the coffin for kanaka maoli.

[@souza151]

Spina Americana Sum columna terrae Unitae, Militis sum, Non-commissariatus sum officiarius. Servio ut nexus vitalis Inter praefectum meum Et omnes milites et signiferos. Nunquam obliviscar qui sim aut quid Representem, Tentabo me ad extremum Et semper ageturus sum in officio. Nunc magis quam umquam devotus sum Ad excellentiam in omnibus meis actibus, Ut possum rectum exemplum dare Ceteris militibus. Exigam a me ipso omnem energiam, Scientiam et peritiam quam habeo, Ut fiduciam induam iis quos doceo. Semper contendam ut perferam Meas ipsius virtutes Et sim bonus dux. Super omnia ero verax In omnibus quae dico aut facio, Integritas mea erit inculpabilis, Sicut et facies mea. Ero verax mihi ipsi, His qui sub potestate mea sunt, Et superioribus meis. Promitto meum optimum facere Ut omnes virtutes ductus Incorporem in characterem meum, Nam talis est hereditas quam accepi Ab illo longo et illustri Linea professionalium Qui, antequam mecum suaviter sanguinem, *Tantopere portaverunt. * Optimum mihi dare oportet Pro milites meis, Pro meo nucleo et pro patria mea, Nam etsi hodie doceo et supervideo in pace, Crastino, forsitan ducam in bello. Duriter vivemus, dure exercitabimus, Et duriter pugnabimus, Praestantes patriae nostrae Possibilitatem continendi, lacunam obturandi, Aut lineam tenendi. Nescimus quando aut ubi Pugnabimus proxime, Sed parati sumus relinquere hodie nocte.

[@timwarcloud]

I hate that this beautiful Kingdom was robbed from the Hawaiian people and Royal family. Sadly, if the US wouldn't have done what they did, it was only a matter of time until Britain, France, Germany, or Japan did.

[@tawaitai]

Would that have been a bad thing???

[@vp3970]

Those countries would not have been able to overthrow the Hawaiian Kingdom bc they all had treaties with the Hawaiian🌺 Kingdom. That is the problem with US of America they had a treaty with Hawaii

[@Alahulapuuloakealahelenokaahu]

Tim Warcloud What hard evidence or authoritative source can you cite to support your otherwise gratuitous claim that another country would have taken the Hawaiian Kingdom if the United States did not?

[@mayfrasonsier]

@@vp3970that makes no sense. The US had treaties with Hawaii. That didn't stop them from overthrowing the Hawaiian Kingdom. Why would that have kept any other country from doing it? Answer: It wouldn't have.

[@mayfrasonsier]

@@AlahulapuuloakealahelenokaahuBritain was already trying (see Paulet Affair). France too. In fact Kauikeaouli was considering annexation to the US in the event that he could not broker peace between Hawaii, France, and Britain.

[@souza151]

In the mystic realm where the Pacific whispers, A dynasty unfolds, tales of rulers and kins. From scattered islands, a unity foreseen, Hawaiian lands, where justice reigns supreme. High chiefs ascended, each island's sovereign, Kiyah Aulani Wahine, in the 1600s, a beacon. Hereditary titles, passed in lineage true, Males and females, heirs of oceanic hue. Upon the Big Island, history's canvas weaves, Kamehameha's legacy, the tapestry conceives. Kalani Oh poo, feathered helm held high, Witness to Cook's landing, beneath the Hawaiian sky. A dance of diplomacy, turned awry, Sacred wood stolen, a boat adrift, a cry. Cook, the explorer, met his fate, In Hawaiian sands, his destiny laid straight. Kalani Oh poo, his lineage retold, Through struggles and triumphs, stories unfold. Kamehameha, a name revered, Foreign ships, destiny steered. Advisors from afar, knowledge bestowed, Conquest of islands, a destiny forebode. 1795, the Kingdom stood tall, Kamehameha, its first sovereign thrall. Generations passed, as monarchs rose, A dance of power, where destiny chose. Kamehameha the Second, brief was his reign, To Great Britain's shores, a journey in vain. Measles claimed, a tragic refrain, Kamehameha the Third, the throne to sustain. Constitution written, a nation transformed, Cucina nui's legacy, through time adorned. Kaahumanu, Kaahumanu ii, and more, A female line, Hawaii's lore. Kamehameha the Fifth, a kingdom in transition, Male-line dwindling, an unforeseen condition. Election held, Luna lilo's reign, A brief interlude, destiny's refrain. Kalakaua, a new chapter begun, Sugar trade's boon, ties to the sun. Rebellion's whispers, a kingdom in strife, Lili ooh Kalani, last reigning life. Promises broken, a queen deposed, Hawaii annexed, in history enclosed. Noble houses echo, in the island's breeze, Quentin Kawana Nakoa, a modern decree. Descendant of legacy, a political art, In the modern age, a monarch's restart. The tale unfolds, in justice's name, Hawaii's dynasty, a mystic flame.

[@leikilimaile2565]

the first president said no ah? but died soon after and the next one jumped on it before his body was cold, bet that buggah neva die a natural death.

[@JackRobison-f2f]

not to justify or forgive the U.S. actions...BUT, Hawaii would have been annexed by Japan if the U.S. had not acted first...a 'free Hawaii' was a very, very, very, very, unlikely reality.

[@andrewkonapurdy2062]

56:33 - "there is no such design. There is no such idea..." - A Harvard Professor of History A "free Hawaii" existed prior to the 1893 "act of war" committed by the US, a US President's words not mines, and there's no evidence a free Hawaii wouldn't have continued to exist without said American Act of War. Kiko pau.

[@dranzacspartan8002]

There is no such proof that Japan would have taken Hawaii. But we know that USA illegally stoled Hawaii and through out their Queen who ruled a thriving Kingdom of Hawaii. It is a disgrace what USA did to Hawaii. Now today, millions of Native Hawaiians are being forced off of their island and moved to cheaper inland states (but they're a sea bearing culture) simply because they can't afford to buy their own land, and the little land they do have, they can't afford to pay the maintenance costs. It is a disgrace.

[@patrishawhitenburg7841]

The U.S. would have been attacked at the Pacific admiralty HQ in San Diego by a Japanese fleet based at Pearl, the entire Pacific theatre would have been changed.

[@dranzacspartan8002]

@@patrishawhitenburg7841 Ok. Now ... FREE HAWAII and let the existing Kingdom Of Hawaii rule their own country. USA needs to move out and the Kingdom do NOT want any of USA's bases on their islands.

[@dranzacspartan8002]

@@andrewkonapurdy2062 There is no evidence that Japan would have attacked a free Hawaii, that would have lived on independently, like many of the other Polynesian Islands.

[@Puna_G]

Evil, greed, selfish acts. BTW, Lahainaluna 1831, Punahou 1841.

It is what it is. I don’t hear grumbling every month when the EBT comes. 😂