The Story of MinecraftForFree.com

There was once a website that hosted the FULL game of Minecraft for free. What happened in the end is just crazy.
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[@jinstronda2571]

Old internet days were insane, a pirated game site group challenging the creator for a Quake 3 match and actually getting it, just so ridiculous haha

[@VicerimusMortem]

This sounds really interesting, can you show me something on where I can read up on this?

[@jinstronda2571]

@@VicerimusMortem the video?

[@VicerimusMortem]

@@jinstronda2571 Oh, it's a video? Sure, yeah.

[@Wclipped]

Honestly more things should be settled by duels for fun like this

[@flytelp]

The transition from the internet and more specifically gaming mimicking the lan party style to the rank/elo centric grind of todays games is crazy.

[@petersmythe6462]

I think courts should be able to have three verdicts: 1. Innocent 2. Guilty 3. We defer to the results of a judicial duel in Quake.

[@markvlogandgaming1133]

There are actually 3 verdicts in Court normally

[@DELETEDUNUSED]

@@markvlogandgaming1133 whats the third

[@nr4z]

@@DELETEDUNUSED sus

[@JoNarDLoLz]

@@DELETEDUNUSED Defer to the results of a judicial duel in Quake.

[@Tkmined]

@@DELETEDUNUSED cant tell you if you wanted to serve on a jury. Sorry.

[@YupRobin]

The fact that Notch named his livestream “Fighting for our honor” is hilarious

[@silas537]

LMFAO right 😭 warrior vibes

[@mubarekmohammed874]

Minecraft For Free Was Collapsed By Notch And How Just Angry About Avolition

[@capybara9521]

@@silas537 "LFMAO" and "😭" was unnecessary and cringe

[@xentixs]

honor or death

[@garrynewman6211]

@@toast7257 What’s a reddit?

[@BMarie774]

I feel for all the kids who came home from school that day and lost their only way of playing Minecraft lol.

[@kittyvfarmer]

But a battle in history happened

[@rossvanderpeut4951]

It was pretty devastating

[@midnight_purple5461]

That was me

[@NigerianCrusader]

BUT THEY STILL HAVE ESO

[@Theunicorn2012]

I feel for all the kids who came home from school that day and lost their only way of playing Minecraft lol.

[@vesstig]

When he said “its a shame we didn’t win” and notch immediately says “No I kinda like winning” has me dying

[@bobuxdoesmemes924]

Lmao

[@staff97]

reminds me of a norm joke

[@Eli1234gordon]

​@@staff97 rip

[@kolikocvastro8466]

@@Red-jl7jj through blood and bones

[@setsers1]

XD

[@testificatetv]

Notch: "No, I kinda like winning." That makes me laugh.

[@xh4rmy]

for some reason in this clip he sounds like Dream

[@NickyPinkwood]

@ṂṐὴḵ∄ḩ dream is secretly swedish

[@zeyface6366]

@@xh4rmy I thought he sounded more like Iskall. Might be because he's also Swedish

[@FunAngelo2005]

ahahaha yes

[@Bebs_]

6:01

[@GraySlicerAnimations]

Notch: You know I could sue you, right? Team Avolition: Yes, but how about a game of Quake 3 Arena instead? Notch: Deal

[@Tristoo]

underrated comment lmao

[@gamingnubs7628]

Virgin: lawsuits Chad: Quake

[@sonicmeerkat]

when you find out how expensive lawsuits are, you'll definitely know why he opted for a match XD

[@sonicjoplus]

@@sonicmeerkat it does cost a lot, but it IS fun though to fight over copyright. this should totally be the new standard.

[@emilydavidson8844]

@UChaw8zugGiWE3z9ET6Ul9Vw they lost and made a song for notch correct?

[@killerzer0x74]

This shows Notch really did have a great deal of integrity as a developer

[@grxy5924]

In the early days of development, i would agree with that statement. But if you’ve ever truly watched a video/documentary about Notch you would realize he became very self centered and obsessed with monetary gains. The facts are out there…

[@yore5]

Great integrity until he outed himself as a fascist

[@GlizzyGoblin757]

@@grxy5924so exactly like modern mojang? except we wouldve gotten actually good updates

[@hitler69]

​@@grxy5924fud by trannoids.

[@frostjack5456]

Shame he has no integrity as a person

[@roasted.cheese]

the fact that notch accepted to play a game of quake with someone who pirated his game is pretty amazing. Thank you, this made my day!

[@Quackra]

They didn't pirate the game they made a website for people to pirate the game without downloading it

[@kvdrr]

@@Quackra Copyright trolls are happy when people confuse 'downloading' with 'uploading'. This paves way for more outrageous statements like "torrents or not, piracy is piracy".

[@crptic9925]

I know right it’s sick

[@roasted.cheese]

@@crptic9925 yoo

[@crptic9925]

@@roasted.cheese hey man nice to see you again

[@mini-_]

Dylan: "Battle me in Quake 3 Arena" Notch: _So you have chosen death_

[@JoThNoMi]

ngl, that was a cool way to settle a fight.

[@adilmohiuddin930]

omae wa mou shindeiru

[@JoThNoMi]

@@adilmohiuddin930 NANI !

[@SuperNova-nr3tb]

@mini Gimp fox! Are you a Linux user?

[@nenmaster5218]

@@SuperNova-nr3tb I have the silly hobby to recommend fun-youtuber to people, just cause i like spreading fun and education. Want some?

[@effortlessproductions]

It’s actually incredible that Notch agreed to that quake battle so quickly. Legendary shit

[@tolype]

@Islamic.Bruh.Moments same

[@SkittLP]

@Islamic.Bruh.Moments It's crack for me

[@realsecrets1]

chad move

[@JoseBenitoNietes]

@Islamic.Bruh.Moments im addicted to speid

[@ceedrsr]

@Islamic.Bruh.Moments im addicted to meth

[@T3nMiDGET5711]

I wish more developers had fun with their games like Notch.

[@NigerianCrusader]

ESO EXISTS

[@Theunicorn2012]

I wish more developers had fun with their games like Notch.

[@bruhmentum4034]

I wish more developers had fun with their games like Notch.

[@gameteamsk6892]

relogic is still here

[@Lunkie]

i wish i had a father

[@wintriest]

How come I never came across this as a kid? Good thing I had a cousin lend his account.

[@SultanGamer124_GD]

@Dоnt Rеаd Му РrоfiIе Рiсturе 🅥 who ever reads his comment dont do it trust me

[@danielbruceagra9022]

I used this site, lol, I'm feeling old

[@bigfgreatsword]

@@SultanGamer124_GD Yeah he even told you guys

[@2jz735]

Well account sharing is illegal too...

[@wintriest]

@@2jz735 yep, but I never knew the password and he rarely used the account. I already bought a personal account a few months back.

[@nqrtzy8765]

Dylan is VERY lucky that this happened before Notch sold the rights to the game, because Microsoft may not have been so forgiving and have handled that situation the same way Notch did

[@SlavicUnionGaming]

Microsoft are a bunch of non consumer friendly shills.

[@newrecemendions6378]

@@salahabdalla368 you use the credit card that you use to pay for things

[@bojingles6449]

@@newrecemendions6378 right this guy must pay with rocks

[@IceeFish]

@@newrecemendions6378 ah yes, as supposed to credit cards that you DON'T use to pay with

[@janfungusamon4926]

@@SlavicUnionGaming microsoft is a corporation and is inherently evil because of that. It's not because they're being unsportsmanlike, they do what they do for profit like everybody else (except individuals such as notch).

[@jesusmgw]

Notch was actually pretty smart with this. By befriending the pirates he got the site down much quicker than by fighting them in court, and gained good Internet reputation for himself and his game at the same time. More or less the same way Gaben sent the HL2 leaker to jail by pretending to offer him a job.

[@brancellbooks]

Wait WHAT is that last sentence??

[@jesusmgw]

@@brancellbooks Sorry english is not my first language, but I was talking about the Half-Life 2 leaker from like 15 years ago.

[@brancellbooks]

@@jesusmgw I didn’t mean to imply you weren’t clear with your language; you were perfectly understandable! I just haven’t ever heard of that story. Would you mind sharing a bit?

[@heyasucks]

@@brancellbooks if i remember correctly, valve offered the hacker a job in a sting operation where the FBI was to arrest him, however the hacker lived in germany at the time, and the german government heard about it so they arrested him first

[@arcihungbycraneonfire]

@@heyasucks angela merkel in action

[@celestialdiamondgamings2297]

Notch: "If those pirates challenge me to a fight in Quake III Arena, they might give me some trouble." "But would you lose?" Notch: "No I kinda like winning."

[@MishaG4mer]

lmfao

[@FelipeJaquez]

He did the "Nah, I'd win" meme first it seems.

[@FoamyEsponja]

@@FelipeJaquez FRRRR

[@soupylobster]

Meanwhile eaglercraft that still works and 2024 and now supports mobile 💀

[@Sirbanza]

Ohhhh that’s why one of the FOV selections is “Quake Pro”, Because Notch is literally a quake pro

[@pierrefr6076]

Also as far as i remember, Minecraft uses the Falldamage Sound from Quake 3

[@theisthecool1105]

Holy shit…

[@queueuof]

oh my god bro

[@itachu.]

bro is fucking legened to poaint thi s aout

[@agata.ama.eres.orobonillan7823]

Bro cracked the DaVinci code

[@danimadi3]

"it is a shame we didn't win" "No I kinda like winning." I'm using this line so much from now on

[@capuchinosofia4771]

He absolutely murdered them with that line lol

[@Vysair]

rofl on that

[@phlippedfilosophy9047]

666th like

[@scribblecloud]

i dont.. get it

[@imnotwritingmyrealname6451]

@@scribblecloud I think its funny because Avolition tried to make Notch pity them. But just failed miserably and got stepped on even harder.

[@markshamp3699]

damn. I remember playing Minecraft for free until eventually begging my mom to buy Minecraft for me. the reason? because I tried building a glow stone portal to the aether and concluded that the reason it didn't work was because I needed to pay for the full game.

[@arcturus9366]

I discovered I couldn't do that after I watched Tobuscus do it years ago, in 2013. Being 12 I didn't know I had to install a mod at the time for it. Lol

[@TheFenrirulfr]

The reason for my first minecraft user's name (before the user got stolen), the name being "DinosaurREXo" was that i thought minecraft naturally had dinosaurs in it. But it was from a mod. So when i first opened minecraft i was sad to see no dinosaurs.

[@tybraker27]

Still makes more sense than me thinking a grenade's explosion was the size of a nuclear explosion.

[@thepwrtank18]

you are technically correct, you can't use mods without downloading it, which requires you own it

[@arcturus9366]

@@thepwrtank18 Thank you for figuring it out you are such a smart person!

[@ykitsgrant]

I remember doing this thing with my local library that said we could all play minecraft and we played this. Before this finding out what minecraft was and begging my mom to get it for me. But the 20 ish dollars then was a lot for a game for us. So finding any way to play it was such a joy. Once this got shut down I got so sad but I loved every second of it. Now Minecraft’s changed and not the same anymore. But I and everyone else grew up and changed too. I just miss those simple times…

[@flippedhat2155]

Someone has revived it and updated it to 1.8. Eaglercraft is pretty cool man.

[@H0ttabych]

You can play any version of Minecraft, including the one that you were playing all the way back then, if you don't like how it changed, just play it in a version that you like

[@bubgamingandvlogs3870]

​@@flippedhat2155 dude I play eaglercraft on the school chrome book

[@C7y323]

I still play minecraft to this day with my partner. I cut contact with the people I used to play with as kids for personal reasons, and the others during middle and high school all grew up or we grew apart. I have new friends and a partner now to play with now, and hopefully kids to teach the game to as well. That's life I guess.

[@evilchild1851]

Imagine Quake 3 was the only way to win arguments “You killed my wife!” “I challenge you to a game of Quake III.”

[@coneburger9081]

9999999

[@Sorta8]

There would be 1000x more lawyers in the world.

[@heheheiamasuperstarwarrior9281]

He got to kill her because he beat her in quake 3

[@JaggedBird]

It's like saying I was frozen today It's an argument winner

[@antblisss]

*loses* “well, I suppose I forgive you, wanna get some coffee?”

[@The_Horizon]

This is such a crazy story. I remember hearing it back in the complexgaming vc from storm himself. Ridiculous

[@bachibak]

no replies 🤔

[@java9245]

same

[@aistiszigel7774]

Mad stuff

[@JeanPierre-bi5lz]

New video plsss

[@ivey]

Horigon

[@TheMisterEpic]

This is so awesome, great video! I remember watching that quake video by avo years ago as a kid, and thinking wtf is going on

[@lightsshadow919]

Hi

[@koe3994]

@@lightsshadow919 hi

[@Noxedwin]

The cries of joy and dismay when Storm _finally_ got a fist in Notch is easily my favourite part of those videos. He was trying for what felt like _hours._

[@thatlaprass4126]

TheMisterPoggic

[@dinofreak01]

This is what happens when you have a passionate game developer who is ACTUALLY passionate about playing games spearheading a project.

[@locxle]

"Hire a dubstep artist to make a song in notch's honor" What a deal

[@OpinionThief]

Wow are you that guy who solves mysteries?

[@maestrofeli4259]

yes, he can solve any mistery with the power of his stand, 「Moody Blues」

[@bombintheseeinq]

@@OpinionThief wow are you scp-106 buy with diavolo hair badly photoshopped?

[@OpinionThief]

@@bombintheseeinq yes

[@MorpheusOfTheEnd]

Imagine Dylan was so devestated over this loss that he, ever since that day has been playing Quake 3 so he would never lose again.

[@critconk]

Sounds like an appropriate villain arc

[@soupermanprofilepic4623]

and then Notch listens to pigstep and uses the power of friendship

[@mactroiy7452]

And this is how rocket jump ninja came into existence

[@nenmaster5218]

@@critconk I have the silly hobby to recommend fun-youtuber to people, just cause i like spreading fun and education. Want some?

[@nenmaster5218]

@@mactroiy7452 I have the silly hobby to recommend fun-youtuber to people, just cause i like spreading fun and education. Want some?

[@Peterscraps]

I used to watch avo a lot when I was younger but I didn't realize just how much of a rich history they have.

[@dinkle3206]

an extremely rich and gaming one

[@jimrex1055]

can u post again peter

[@Unkle_Genny]

Hi Peter!

[@sutekhthedestroyer6412]

Post again or gay

[@alecks6064]

Is that Peterscraps in the comments?

[@TheLoveForTheBeat]

This brings back so much nostalgia my guy. I can't can't believe I use to play MC creative mode only on a website... People had such crazy builds back then too. Wild how far MC has come.

[@doop00]

There was also a guy that said: *"I really like the game but lack the money to buy it. I thought I might at least ask for a free account before piracy,"* Notch said: *"Just pirate it. If you still like it when you can afford it in the future, buy it then. Also don't forget to feel bad. ;)"*

[@shinkshonkers3787]

omfg notch

[@superspies32]

This is the definition of giga-chad. Consider many AAA games now is a bomb.

[@MindSag]

Notch is a gigachad

[@beyondobscure]

Chad

[@yourlocalmoron153]

if only more game creators were so good

[@MultiSilverbolt]

This takes me back. This is literally where I first played Minecraft because I was too scared to pay for anything online as a kid. When the site went down, I was saddened by it because I had to say goodbye to my world and all the creations I built. Days later, I got a copy of Minecraft, and was relieved that the copy of my world is saved because of Java. Thank you for this video.

[@user-uo8ny1kj4c]

that comment was a rollercoaster of emotions

[@redguywithatophat1900]

Rest in alive.

[@victorplayz_]

@@redguywithatophat1900 R.I.A.

[@victorplayz_]

@@user-uo8ny1kj4c Yes, it was a rollercoaster of emotions.

[@redguywithatophat1900]

@@victorplayz_ that is true, it was a roller coaster of emotions.

[@mechatengu7368]

Man, everything about this video is nostalgic. The free minecraft, the mouse with the yellow circle thingy on it, the incredibly low fps

[@acenio654]

Fraps and bandicam. The days when screen recording wasn't free.

[@OryxTheMadGod3]

@@acenio654 unregistered hypercam 2

[@extreme989]

Even the website :(

[@bruhdon4748]

Team avo too classic

[@TheWeeklyVibecheck]

Team Avolition dueling Notch and Jeb in Quake was INSANE to me at the time. Absolutely nuts seeing the figurative "gods" and "devils" of Minecraft hash it out on Quake... Avolition always was and always will be my favorite Minecraft KZbin content.

[@Yahiamice]

brb cloning Hytale then challenging Simon from Hypixel to a TF2 MGE match

[@faky4251]

Thats if you don’t die before it comes out

[@YeahhColix]

Oh hi yahi

[@banesrb]

On Granary too!

[@0638]

verified man

[@justadog8011]

Do it.

[@Ken-lv4ww]

Glad that in the end, Notch got his wish far a Quake 3 match.

[@raxarri9553]

this just proves that the people behind minecraft used to be actual people that were deep inside just gamers and not just a big company that would file a lawsuit as soon as the site was put up

[@LanceRedCock]

The reality of life is most of the stuff you enjoy, will be bastardized and owned by people who are only interested in the bottom dollar. If they can sell it to you, they will.

[@sbh_tx]

the vertical integration of the gaming industry has been a disaster for gaming

[@nonsuspiciouscolour]

i mean microsoft is in charge of minecraft now dont blame mojang

[@orangeapples]

It happened to all the old favorites.

[@NigerianCrusader]

Still not as cool as bay city rollers

[@theCOFFEEMAN108]

that was really good story telling and narration. definitely subscribing for more videos like this. you kept me immersed in the story, and even if this were just an audio clip I could've pictured exactly what you were describing. 10/10

[@kiyukikinjo]

“Educational use only” is what I used as an excuse to my teachers when they caught me playing Minecraft for free during class in middle school

[@pepsiman4708]

Should've used education edition

[@lewisgamer637]

@@pepsiman4708 didnt exist at the time

[@pepsiman4708]

@@lewisgamer637 oh yeah right. Back in class, we used to play minecraft education edition during class, and they couldn't do much because it was "educational"

[@pantallahueso]

@@pepsiman4708 Minecraft: Education Edition was released November, 2016. Launched just a couple weeks before Minecraft 1.11 was. No, it didn't exist at the time.

[@pepsiman4708]

@@pantallahueso didn't you see? I said oh yeah right to let him know that I know it didn't exist at the time.

[@TheGamingGeek2001]

This is how me and all my buddies used to play in elementary school. I’ll never forget; my 5th grade teacher had a “ticket” system where you got 1 ticket if you did something good/got a question right. Me and the guys started selling gum, 1 stick for one ticket. By the end of the year, we saved up enough to buy 1 full week of visits to the computer lab, 1:30-2:30, and we’d play on this site. Thanks for bringing back the memories man

[@teatime5036]

"It's a shame we didn't win" "No, I kinda like winning" 😂😂😂

[@pattyryopotybuttongamer3063]

and after that you have to plug the red wire into the socket to make sure the engine boots at launch. Wrap the green wire around it's coil that sits directly beside the A button. After you put the back shell on, place the battery in the slot. Screw the Vr26 Jeeper back up and press the reset button. If everything worked according to plan you're device should show a thumbs up sprite. Plug the HDMI port into a monitor and wait three seconds. If it boots up on TV your in the good side. If it doesn't boot in less then 5 seconds quickly unplug. This can severely damage your TV and possibly start a fire

[@lhart9938]

@@pattyryopotybuttongamer3063 thanks mate

[@jackdespot2347]

@@pattyryopotybuttongamer3063 cheers pal, i'll try not to screw this up

[@nerocladius4319]

@@pattyryopotybuttongamer3063 thanks

[@MadrugaOmega]

sO fUnNY...

[@J-WestStudios]

Nice editing skills for the video man! Funny to see how Notch took to the challenge. I really like when you queued the music for the transitions, job well done!

[@TuShan18]

Ah, settling legal disputes with quake. Those were simpler times.

[@BuffGuitarist]

They should settle legal disputes with how fast you beat Armstrong in mgr

[@RimFaxxe]

@@BuffGuitarist naw, they should settle legal disputes with an among us round

[@FunAngelo2005]

I wish we still lived in those times

[@user-ow2cs7fb5l]

@@RimFaxxe too late for that

[@LanceRedCock]

@@RimFaxxe This would convince me to never break a single law, including jaywalking. Playing among us is a fate worse than having Bubba as a roommate.

[@skaruts]

I loved it when Notch made a post talking about the bethesda situation and at the end of it he said something like _"now I'm gonna go play some Scrolls. And by Scrolls, of course, I mean Skyrim"._

[@lociflow6154]

lmao

[@cleverman383]

In one tweet, Notch completely annihilated any possible doubt that Bethesda might have had a point that another game company having a game called Scrolls would cause a confusion with Elder Scrolls. Absolutely no one thinks "Skyrim" when they hear "Scrolls" I get way more confused with The Outer Worlds and The Outer Wilds

[@Hlebuw3k]

Reminds me of that one time, when my parents bought me the game, but my friends were still pirating. So they asked me to send them the game files, turns out you already had to have a mojang account to play the full version, so all of them though the demo for 3 in-game days was something like "Build the best thing you can within the time limit, and if we like it, you get to play multiplayer"

[@heyn]

hey

[@Hlebuw3k]

@@heyn oh hey isaac short video youtuber with an epic anime profile picture

[@bodaciouschad]

Jump drive multiplayer was a neat thing me and my friends had discussed, but we were all programmers, so nobody was willing to plug a flash drive into their rigs.

[@pierre9061]

Hah

[@elecman748]

Lmao

[@ca_lcium]

I played Minecraft on this site back in 2011. It was a big part of my childhood, and was sad to see it gone years later.

[@yzapre]

bethesda was scared to play quake with notch because he was too good

[@bernds6587]

I am pretty sure, Bethesda, being the sister company (both owned by Zenimax) of id Software (creator of the Quake series) could organize some Quake pros... I just find Notchs choice of ingame model funny..

[@changsiah2]

I find the irony is a Bethesda tried to sue Mojang for Scrolls and then years later both companies will be owned by Microsoft

[@guilhermef.cabral8252]

Imagine a alternative universe where Todd how Howard himself challenge notch

[@muchotexto4248]

They went cold war on his ass and realised noone would survive that showdown

[@R2Bl3nd]

The site didn't host any data. It used Mojang's servers, just like a legitimate game client. On Reddit, Notch confirmed that the site was not illegal or against the TOS explicitly. Copyright wasn't a factor because no copyrighted work was being hosted. I'm sure the reason for Minecraft's updated terms of service, along with requiring you to accept the terms when hosting a server, was partially inspired by this debacle. I believe that the reason why it was not considered illegal was due to the fact that the site was not distributing anything that was copyrighted. I'm pretty sure that it downloaded the legitimate client from Mojang's servers and just tricked it into thinking that the user had a valid login. The client, just being a simple launcher that downloaded the actual game files from the Mojang servers, meant that there was no copyrighted information or data being hosted. The files were only downloaded upon the initial launch, and during any subsequent updates. The game files were stored on your machine after being downloaded from the servers, so it's not like the data had to be re-downloaded every time. Still, Minecraft for Free accounted for more than 10% of Mojang's server traffic, from what I remember Dylan telling me about the cease and desist email.

[@user-ch6iv2bn2j]

isn't it what makes that game illegal

[@user-ch6iv2bn2j]

It's not legit,ot used Mojang servers and probably didn't have license from Notch.

[@pustota7254]

Your comment got liked 69 times.

[@R2Bl3nd]

@@pustota7254 Nice

[@R2Bl3nd]

@@user-ch6iv2bn2j He didn't have a license but he didn't need one, the terms of service weren't explicitly forbidding something like this, they were updated afterward but it was an amicable request that was handled amicably by Dylan. The main complaint was that the site accounted for over 10% of Minecraft's server traffic. Source: I've been friends with Dylan for the past ~10 years.

[@danielcharles4431]

The good ol' days of Minecraft FULL game no virus 100% free.

[@Nexpeon]

@Dоnt Rеаd Му РrоfiIе Рiсturе 🅥 ok I wont + your’e gay + you r white

[@phaeste]

@@Nexpeon none of those are real insults and you’re just being homophobic

[@lukeyey]

@@Nexpeon +ratio

[@peisevlogs3431]

@@lukeyey +mald

[@Nexpeon]

@@phaeste Twitter user....can’t take sarcasm ay?

[@CarrotmanGames]

One of my favorite minecraft story's ever. Thanks for this awesome video!

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

If only creators were as chill as Notch, I'd like to pirate a game and challenge them to a match of Halo 3 instead.

[@NobleLaika]

Based

[@tamny9963]

notch is transphobic

[@aplasticsoldier9130]

@@tamny9963 i dont see a problem

[@tikeyy6012]

@@tamny9963 What’s the deal with that? Can someone fill me in on the details im a stone and dont understand.

[@itrest]

@@tamny9963 lol k

[@IStoleAllYourCookies]

Imagine an alternate timeline where they won, getting one of the rarest capes in the game.

[@FKAT23]

If only 🥲

[@TubeOfLaughes]

Storm: "It's a shame that we didn't win. Notch: "No, I kinda like winning. Spoken like a true gaming champion.

[@kinggeogeo4699]

1k like lol

[@myfaveyoutube]

Notch Nonuts

[@Arcanum-t2r]

I think its actually really cool that notch accepted the duel and avilition held up their end of the duel

[@BlueX321]

Everyone says “we need more people like him” but never says “we need to be like him”

[@minorcomet282]

Everybody also says this.

[@bibekdas7449]

Exactly 💯

[@wbg5586]

we should not be like him.

[@FunAngelo2005]

@@wbg5586 they are talking about the old notch lmao

[@LactoseTheDevourer]

@@FunAngelo2005 context?

[@MINE_OK]

3:37 “You can’t just copyright a word.” Fine Bros: *Allow us to introduce ourselves.*

[@setsers1]

HA

[@tetronym4549]

They lost tho

[@xiuhwho]

@@tetronym4549 You know who succeeded where they failed? Sky™

[@fearedjames]

@@setsers1 Its a hugely bullshit thing tho. Since it was Mojang that was trying to copyright a word.

[@LetsTakeWalk]

Finebros tried to Trademark a word, which is something else.

[@SpongeBlaster]

I remember playing in minecraft for free when I was 11! Even though it was a pirated version, that's what got me into minecraft for years to come. If it was not for that website I might not have ever played the game, as my parents were not able to pay for random video games.

[@detective_solar]

Same!😅

[@hamsterfromabove8905]

As much as I get Mojang not wanting their game to be pirated for free. If I didn't play this pirated version as a kid I would have never gotten into Minecraft. Every bit of money that I ever gave Mojang for Minecraft and various adjacent products can be traced back to me playing this pirated version. I get pirating is bad. But giving free access to something can open the door to more money down the road. It's not just a loss for them.

[@MrAeral]

It's really amazing how Notch accepted the duel. A true gamer dude.

[@8illy]

i remember playing this in the school library

[@qx4n9e1xp]

What's a library?

[@jcpenny8399]

@@qx4n9e1xp a room where books are kept

[@largepoodle6036]

@@jcpenny8399 what's a room?

[@knightlyfiver9733]

@@largepoodle6036 a book where libraries are kept

[@klarisaarwena]

@@knightlyfiver9733 what's a book?

[@TinkerManMick]

Love your videos Sal!

[@dravskii]

Hello tinker man mick

[@I_HAVE_A_BUCKET-p9b]

Hi

[@SalC1]

Thank you!

[@GraySlicerAnimations]

Seriously, Notch was a pretty good sport about this whole thing since they pirated his game. Glad he was though, because that match and dubstep track are legendary.

[@DonDadda45]

He realized piracy isnt bad for him

[@lucifer2b666]

@@DonDadda45 Plus it's a kid. He probably thought it was an adult who did it until they started talking and tried to be more lax because it'd be absolutely evil and idiotic to sue a child over copyright law when they have zero idea what's going on in the world to begin with. Let alone how copyright law works.

[@GumSkyloard]

@@lucifer2b666 Isn't Notch also part of a Pirate Party?

[@GraySlicerAnimations]

@@GumSkyloard I'm not sure if he still is today, but I'm pretty sure he was a member when all of this went down. However, despite its name, the pirate party doesn't appear to promote software piracy (which would be promoting theft).

[@aoki6332]

@@lucifer2b666 and the fact that these guys where doing that 100% Free and not actually scamming people whit a pirated version probably helped a lot

[@mmq6525]

As someone who isn’t too materialistic, if I got much more than I need and I was in possession of something like this, I would definitely be handling situations like this.

[@DerangedIntellectual9]

Respect to Notch’s challenge: no lawsuits, no fist fights, no insults, just some gamers battling it out for copyrights to their games.

[@R2Bl3nd]

I remember the days of cool wholesome notch, before he went off the deep end after letting his money get to his head. His Fedora and neckbeard should have been a warning sign.

[@asurmenhandofasuryan4610]

@@R2Bl3nd Notch is basically what happens a neckbeard gets rich

[@Foster002]

Yeah respect but also lost my actual respect long ago

[@calamorta]

The fact you made this a 7 minute video and not an unnecessarily massive documentary. +1 sub.

[@Orincaby]

literally his entire thing

[@asaasa7900]

@@Orincaby I would 100% listen to a full documentary of this in a heartbead. I love video essays.

[@zherean42069]

This is literally a ducumentary lol

[@untitledname4740]

@@asaasa7900 I’ll recommend emplemon then

[@aceven2raa]

@@zherean42069 Keywords: "unnecessarily massive"

[@Keanine]

This is how I first played Minecraft! I didn't realise at the time that it wasn't official, so I had a bunch of fun with it. (Clearly I wasn't reading the disclaimers on the page) Eventually I realised, and I ended up buying the game because of the fun I had with the beta 1.7 version they had on there. Not only that, but I was pleasantly surprised to find the official release was on beta 1.8.1 so there was a bunch of new stuff to do, and I was able to transfer my world to the official version no issues!

[@LegitSiForNow]

Transfer your pirated world to the official version? Do you still have it? If so that'd be insane.

[@z3r0ut78]

@@LegitSiForNow Why would that be special? it still was the original game only hosted for free. Thats no different to copy the world from one instance to another like a backup.

[@LegitSiForNow]

@@z3r0ut78 It is technically the original game, I'll give you that, but it was never hosted by any official source, just for free. In any reasonable world, an illegitimate save file should not work in the official game. But yet, in this case, it did.

[@Keanine]

@@LegitSiForNow Sadly I lost it many years ago on an old hard drive and I'm very upset about it. I remember it very well! It was very simple but it was a small underground house with a glass roof so I could see spiders. Then over on a hill nearby I started building the cobblestone monstrosity of a skyscraper.

[@LegitSiForNow]

@@Keanine That's a shame. Still very cool that you were able to do that!

[@Peaceful_Gojira]

Gosh, I forgot all about how Minecraft used to be a game you could play in-browser...it's been like 10 years, and java plugins on browsers has only been gone for like 3 years...I forgot all about that stuff. I also laugh, because I initially was given a SP Minecraft file back in high school (I think it was just a paid version my buddy bought, but just gave me the game file)...and that was the only way (at first) I was able to play Minecraft. I would eventually buy the full game and make an account when Mojang finally released the Minecraft full-game cards at the stores, and I immediately snagged one (because it was also cheaper at that point...the original price was steep for the lack of content at the time). Paid 26 bucks for it...one of the best 26 bucks I've ever spent. Cheers. Cool vid. Brought back great memories.

[@ShortHax]

Pfft, Mineshafter was my go to for Minecraft at school

[@TheOneWhoAsked37]

Eyyyyy shorthax

[@gamingjoshy6530]

Omg yes😂😂😂

[@BokyProkyYT]

Yeap. Me too untill i startet using tlauncher

[@alinabriana]

yeah, really epic

[@torbypical]

The website is still up to this day lol but i don't know if it still works

[@Hermeticlock]

I totally remember this website. Never knew it was owned by a team avo member! It’s small things like accepting a quake match that made Notch such a great figure in the gaming community. Great upload!

[@esiedler1]

That site was my first introduction to Minecraft in 2011. Great video once again btw

[@pubert2024]

Ok verified

[@spergman]

@@pubert2024 ok unverified

[@AceCardz]

Okay!

[@pubert2024]

@@spergman same for you

[@spergman]

@@pubert2024 ok and

[@inqurity]

2:51 makes sense, official website doesn't have an option to play full game for free

[@Johnadude3]

Notch might want to thank those guys for hosting that pirate site. If little 11 year old me back in 2010 had not gotten to try out Minecraft, I probably never would have begged my dad to buy it. Im sure there's plenty of people who have a similar story

[@arcihungbycraneonfire]

I just realised your pfp isnt a humanoid creature, its just a jungle animal. Now i am not afraid

[@anonymgrill6695]

That's what demos are for...

[@solaceininsanity]

@@RikkeDK1996 lighten up

[@yourunemployedfriendat2pm]

@@anonymgrill6695 the demo didn't get me hooked, the ability to play multiplayer with my friends on cracked servers did

[@NoStereo]

@@RikkeDK1996 Wrong, You can't steal a digital product in the same way you can steal a physical one.

[@tehangrybird345]

“There is no Easter Bunny” “There is no Tooth Fairy” “And there is no way to play Minecraft for free”

[@nlive8942]

TLauncher: *Laughing* Well to be fair Tlauncher has all the versions, mods and multiplayer but using shaders on it just destroys my game.

[@Benedyktino]

Crystal launcher mplaucher

[@gungaginga4952]

Android users: “pathetic”

[@asster358]

Not if you're on android

[@Anorey]

browser minecraft classic

[@Hraefne]

this is literally how i started playing minecraft, ive never seen it talked about since then. it was so awesome.

[@sentimentalexis]

When I was super young, I heard about this website through the grapevine, and it was effectively my first exposure to Minecraft. I played through its peak, and the switch to hosting Minecraft Classic once they got shut down (though this is the first time I've ever heard about the Quake match). The disappointment once they switched to Classic was what made me beg my dad to buy Minecraft in the first place. It feels super weird to see this obscure little memory of mine from, like, second or third grade immortalized, since I thought this was an experience only me and the friend that told me about it had.

[@R2Bl3nd]

It's crazy to think that this website probably really helped with Minecraft sales and popularity. At its peak, it accounted for more than 10% of traffic on Mojang's servers. It was probably how many many people were introduced to the game, people who otherwise didn't have the means to buy it legitimately or the knowledge on how to pirate it. I think one of the coolest things about the site is that it technically didn't host any copyrighted data whatsoever, so it was for all intense and purposes legitimate, and not piracy. It Just exploited holes in the way the game was built and the terms of service.

[@TheRenegade...]

@@R2Bl3nd Hot take: Piracy should be legal

[@Pavlinka__]

@@TheRenegade... I'd be fine with "legal" "piracy" of old software. I still use a bunch of things I've bought back in the day, so they have to be installed from a CD, right, but cheap laptops don't tend to have CD mechanic thingies, which suck. It was challenging to find a working torrent for it. Then again, even if it were legal, it wouldn't help me in this case, right. My wish is more along the lines of "obligatory archival of old software," right. In regards to new stuff, that's hot take, definitely, because noone who ever tried to make anything would agree with that, but I believe that anyone should be free to try things before purchasing. That's what you do with anything you buy... except for food, I guess. Although sometimes you can try it! And while there are softwares with demos or lite versions, and bless them, it's not as common as it used to be. Or sometimes you have to give them all your personal information before getting the access, and how can you know if it's worth having your identity stolen, right? With things like ebooks, that's kinda trickier, because for stand alone the previews could be good enough, but sometimes it's just one chapter and I think you need at least 3 to get to know the vibe, y'know? But if you download a book, you probably gonna read it whole, and if you then decide it wasn't worth buying, then you kinda already stole it, and that's kinda sad, right. With comics, they're either very short or very long that it would take 1,5 book at minimum to get to know where the story is going, so "subscription service" would be better in this case - yeah, they're paid, but I'm looking at piracy from the view of someone who wants to find something worth spending money on, right. Don't really care about downloading of tv shows or movies... they'd be on tv eventually anyway... and if it's exclusive to a country or channel or something, welp, I guess. I wonder how tv shows can even make money? Seems like people don't really pay for them, just some change for the tv fees and taxes, how can that cover multiple tv shows? Ad money, too, of course, but idk it's bizarre and frankly, don't really care. And I wouldn't mind having free research papers because some journals ask for 30 usd for one work, and, like, what- It's just 10 pages and I want to read them in order to cite three words in my paper, asking for 30 usd is not nice. For the whole issue, maybe even for 5 works, right, but sheesh. Science is expensive, but the research paper sells aren't the main income for scientists so it doesn't have to be expensive. Most of them are lying in them anyway.

[@R2Bl3nd]

@@TheRenegade... yeah I mean it's not taking anything away from the creator except potential revenue. But for certain things it actually increases sales, because the people pirating it wouldn't have bought it without trying it first.

[@senkkella7664]

@@R2Bl3nd "except the potential revenue" thats kinda why pirating is illegal 🤣🤣🤣

[@Murzac]

These chads just got an email about an incoming lawsuit and invoked trial by combat through a 3v3 match in Quake. And the other side agreed. Absolute madlads lmao

[@BraydenRad]

To the person reading this comment You are awesome & hope you are having a great day My dream is to hit 1k I hope you can help me accomplish my dreams.,

[@use2l]

@@BraydenRad no

[@cinemalazare4850]

@@BraydenRad tell me one good reason to sub, am not gonna watch any of your videos so why does it even matter?

[@BraydenRad]

@@cinemalazare4850 because i'm trying to build an advanced gaming community, and teach them new tips and tricks that i personaly have discovered and. I care about the comments and have answered every single question and helped over 60 people with my tutorials

[@cinemalazare4850]

@@BraydenRad listen, man, i understand i really do, but subscribers don't do anything, why would i sub if am not gonna watch your video? people don't care about youtubers subs so why should they care about yours? genuine views and a genuine community matters, not dead subs

[@Flop_Studios]

Regardless of anything he's said, Notch sounds like a really chill dude. He backed up his 1v1 idea over legal issues and won lol.

[@knucklesskinner253]

Hes not chill at all lmao, he’s depressed and not a good friend.

[@Flop_Studios]

@@knucklesskinner253 That's what the money did to him when he sold Minecraft. I don't think he's a bad friend. I think he just was trying to be friends with the other "rich and famous" but they weren't his crowd. Having money is nice but it can really mess with your head because you feel like you've made it but that you still need a purpose in life.

[@LambentLight00]

@@Flop_Studios Notch is literally a transphobe tho … idk I wouldn’t wanna be friends with someone like that

[@OctoRang]

@@LambentLight00 uhh no he’s not

[@malariaa0293]

@@LambentLight00 wtf I love notch now

[@tytexter794]

I miss “in browser” days after school in the computer lab tho

[@thomasb.5643]

This is an awesome story, thanks for sharing it Sal !!!

[@adolfknitler2457]

Damn it’s crazy how many people remember this, I still have all the old MCForFree videos and the website saved in my bookmarks from late 2011 and early 2012, and I remember BeBopVox making a Minecraft Monday video covering the lawsuit when it happened. Awesome to see the full story in its entirety be told for everyone to hear.

[@R2Bl3nd]

Considering that this website once accounted for more than 10% of Mojang's server traffic, it's no surprise that a lot of people remember the site. I remember Dylan telling me he got emails all the time from schools and stuff thanking him for running the site. Especially schools from third world countries and places where they generally didn't have the budget to buy Minecraft for everyone. It was good while it lasted.

[@ThrowAway-gu2lw]

@@R2Bl3nd Why would schools thank him? Wouldn't it just make children more likely to be distracted lol. I do remember playing it in the computer lab in grade 5 though, so I'll thank him haha

[@R2Bl3nd]

@@ThrowAway-gu2lw not sure, I know the game can be used to teach certain stuff

[@AnneFrankthe2nd]

Loved playing on it

[@Solesteam]

Notch: Even when threatening someone with a lawsuit, will humor them with challenge requests for things like that. He's such a cool game developer...

[@dawizard6668]

hes also a nazi supporter

[@ariefachmadi5027]

@@dawizard6668 everyone is a nazi supporter these days huh

[@dawizard6668]

@@ariefachmadi5027 he literally endorsed qanon and called himself a "race realist" in a now deleted tweet.

[@AriCircuit]

I mean he also hates trans people...

[@yoderiate7472]

@@AriCircuit please be quiet

[@theadventureinsider]

I remember getting on that. There was no anti-piracy trick, it was just there. But when it was shut down, I remember there was a message that said how it was illegal and therefore shut down. The URL was there but the message replaced the game.

[@FirstLast-mn4re]

I don't really know much about Notch as a person but the fact that he settled a legal dispute with a fucking game of quake one of the greatest things I've heard of.

[@thesunflowerseedenthusiast2481]

Fun fact , he's actually a terrible person

[@justapersonalr]

@@thesunflowerseedenthusiast2481 why tho

[@thesunflowerseedenthusiast2481]

@@justapersonalr he's racist and transphobic

[@completeesoteric9010]

@@thesunflowerseedenthusiast2481 Turns out he's a better person than we thought!

[@thesunflowerseedenthusiast2481]

@completeesoteric9010 oh no, you outed yourself as a disgusting human being. My points about a video game creator having said some pretty fucked up stuff are completely invalidated. Congratulations, I hope it was worth it. I also hope you can understand sarcasm, considering racists are not known for intelligence.

[@kdmedia1534]

Notch is Swedish, they’re usually quite lax when it comes to piracy. I heard Notch said at an award ceremony for Minecraft in like 2011 pirating a game is just expected, but the updates are what keep people paying for and supporting a game. Something along the lines of it can’t really remember but it’s still cool.

[@pflasterstrips7254]

He even said he might open source it if Minecraft would stop being profitable, looks like that is off the table, lol

[@PorthoGamesBR]

If i recall well, he actually suported brazilians pirating Minecraft because he was against the big taxes that Brazil had with videogames at the time. I think the total tax count was more than the actual price of the game

[@therookie5714]

@@pflasterstrips7254 I could see it going free to play with an optional season pass similar to cod

[@mega_gamer93]

@@therookie5714 open source and free of charge are very different things

[@therookie5714]

@@mega_gamer93 didn’t say they weren’t

[@dumbinfo9833]

I love how at the end of the day, notch is just a gamer, that’s all he’s ever been, yes he made the biggest game ever but still, love it

[@cleverman383]

it wasn't even meant to be a product at first, he made it during the summer as a hobby and sent free copies of it to people on chatrooms to show off what he made

[@i_insulted_a_wizard]

"If Team Avolition wins, they get Minecraft capes; if Mojang wins, Team Avolition would have to hire a dubstep artist to make a song in Notch's honor." The most 2012 sentence that I've ever hearrd.

[@GandalfGreyhame]

10 year old me was using this site since my parents refused to buy me the game, completely unbeknownst to what was happening behind the scenes. This is hilarious :D

[@themuffincat]

Me too lol

[@mistermoo7602]

Very well-paced and even breakdown of all the context needed to appreciate this contest. Very good job!

[@iansarmiento23]

"And that's where storm had an idea" Me: "He invented Hytale!"

[@anonamemous6865]

Wait wut?

[@Psecter]

@@anonamemous6865 They made hytale

[@devon-crain]

Minecraft for free is actually why my grandparents decided to gift me minecraft as a kid. They saw me playing it and thought it was great, gifted it for my birthday later that year.

[@bside9955]

This is how I first started playing Minecraft, what a nostalgia trip. I remember when it went down, then I found mineshafter, then mineshafter squared. Eventually I had a job and bought an actual copy of the game, but for the longest time this was the only way I could play it, so while I'm not advocating for piracy, it did eventually net them a sale from me ^-^

[@iampandatye]

HOLY SHIT BRO MINESHAFTER... man the memories

[@Kyubeyisbestboy]

Oo i remember mineshafter squared. I only used it like for 2 weeks tho. I rmemeber there being private servers and you can use a skin but no one gonna see it and im sure the mineshafter enabled servers were full of people who bought the game anyways

[@Pacca64]

I used to play minecraft in my browser when I first got it. At some point, the browser had it's cookies wiped, and I lost my world, and I've been playing the desktop version ever since.

[@colin4724]

This unlocked so many memories for me. My friends and I were 8/9 in 2011, and neither of us had the money for Minecraft so we would get on Minecraft for free on the weekends using the same computer and have so much fun.

[@Red-Apple4]

I was 4 and using the website

[@jalolastname5446]

@@Red-Apple4 GREEN GREEN BEANS

[@flankTC2]

4:49 causally starts playing tf2 mvm music.

[@amalanparty]

Man, I remember being huge on AVO back in the day, even remembering this match, but didn't know it was because of this website. The teenage me is quite shocked to hear this, and we shall always remember that team AVO deserves ice cream.

[@keklord420b8]

God i miss avo, they deserve some ice cream :)

[@xion1305]

Notch is awesome for accepting the challenge. A true gamer at heart.

[@thesunflowerseedenthusiast2481]

He's certainly has his fair share of G A M E R moments

[@tylertass9983]

Makes me like him even more then

[@matheusazevedo3138]

This is just amazing It reminds me of when a Japanese art collector named Takashi Hashiyama had auction houses Sotheby’s and Christie’s play Rock Paper Scissors to decide which of them would get to sell his collection of paintings. Christie’s won with scissors, beating Sotheby’s paper.

[@GIJew]

My friends and I used that site to play on the school computers during tech class. How time flies, felt like yesterday...

[@RealKeksu]

Oh boy, memories hits hard. I can still remember all those moment with my friends in minecraft. I used this site because my parents didn't want to pay. Eventually my grandpa bought it to me as birthday gift.

[@VGF80]

I had a cousin who played minecraft for free on his computer. This was how I was introduced to this game, and it did nothing but blow my mind on the level of freedom it has to offer. So I was disappointed when it got shut down before I could play for myself. By the time I got my hands on this game legitimately, the game was long since past it's hayday. Still, I awe at how incredible this game was and still is to this day.

[@deema4432]

Honestly I feel like all kinds of conflicts should be dealt with by having a Quake DM

[@Dawud050]

Good idea but it would be real stressing lol

[@sonictheflexhog6075]

I wish more situations could be solved like this.

[@9wowable]

This is how I got into Minecraft, and in turn got all my friends into Minecraft, this is such a big throwback. Had to ask on Twitter if anyone remembered it, still remember the story of how notch beat that guy at Quake to take the website down. Memories.