The Story Of Isiah Thomas RUINING The New York Knicks

Isiah Thomas was an amazing player back in the day, but unfortunately...being a great player doesn't mean you'll be a great general manager. Here is the full story of how Isiah Thomas ruined the New York Knicks.
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[@MysticMicrowave]

The battle of mj and Isaiah Tomas... Again

[@dominikmatic4032]

furious blaze LMAO

[@1mfilms]

lol, this gave me a laugh

[@justinebautista1383]

well the hornets actually did have quite a decent season.

[@legendgamer3853]

Blaze *isiah

[@vie3147]

So true but the winner is MJ since he owned the whole Hornets franchise.

[@neojso]

MJ "I am a worst GM" Thomas "I will do even worse than you" MJ "I took it personal"

[@elchichosantana6410]

By the end of 2020, MJ will get his Title as the worst GM and Owner.

[@royfablooo2810]

I mean Charlotte Is doing good this season, Melo, Haward and of course their Goated Casters.

[@mikehawk7220]

😂 bloody marvelous

[@hmmBEEFY]

He never stopped being a piston

[@JuicedSSJ]

hmmBEEFY L

[@MetalMadness_00]

Nope

[@thale2422]

Bad boys for life!

[@monolithgeometry3221]

He was a sleeper agent

[@JBGoode-zx7pp]

Likely enough to be true.

[@alexnoel2]

Even the current Isiah Thomas gets booed at MSG for sharing his name

[@encinobalboa]

IT is a Knick??!! Seems fitting. He was a bust in L.A. Magic gave away Clarkson and Nance, Jr. for him.

[@sweeterman15]

encinobalboa he’s not a Knick

[@kingkungkernitz]

Elgin Baylor ran the Clippers front office for more than 20 years and they only had 2 winning seasons. I'd say that's the GOAT of bad NBA executives

[@shawna7813]

Yeah, and it dispels the myth Sterling was a racist. Kept an incompetent like Baylor around for 20 years. Maybe not....

[@gamingislife3332]

Bro you forgetting king bro look what he did to my nets

[@yoitstonytone7790]

@@shawna7813 no it doesn't. Dude is racist as hell. You remember those recordinwith him and his wife? Just because he hired a black guy to run his team doesn't mean he isn't a racist

[@dwayneturner9395]

@@shawna7813 riiiiiight....the good ole "i got black friends! I'm NOT racist"....smh

[@CJEstradaMartinez]

Allow me to sum up what former "Hockey Central At Noon" cohost Doug MacLean said about this shocking news: "How is anyone allowed to keep his job that long? I would never have lasted two years, let alone 22 years." I guess they couldn't find anyone desperate enough to take that position.

[@apimpnamedstepback1431]

Sees Craig Sager at 3:48. Sheds a tear.

[@YashPatel-yy7gs]

Smartguy1002 bruh i cried the atlantic ocean in my house looking at that

[@checkbruh2595]

Smartguy1002 is he that close to your heart?

[@apimpnamedstepback1431]

No. But it's sad what happened to him. I didn't literally shed a tear; it's just an expression.

[@SerlingPictures]

Sager gave off the vibe of just being a purely great person. You don't have to meet somebody to know that. But watching him do interviews and nba gigs for decades, you got a good feel for him.

[@bigstupidgrin]

Great man. Greater suits.

[@jdm33333]

Ohhh the memories 😞

[@ifeanyiukpelegbu8193]

Yoshi Bryant no

[@Jiwizard17]

pain and fucking misery and Jeff hornacek is doing a thousand times worse

[@lilslump3301]

Still not as bad as giving Joakim Noah $71 million.

[@lilslump3301]

THE ANDROID GAMER he was already dropping the two seasons before the Knicks got him, he was also injury prone, and last $71 million for a guy like him is still absurd

[@panner11]

Dude, back in the Isiah era, the knicks were the highest paid team in the league yet were regularly the 13th seed in the east. That's worse.

[@Hyybrid]

Viper He fell out of the Knicks rotation bassicly

[@pussinjordans8800]

@@panner11 everything is expensive in new york, even if the team is trash

[@johnnycee9325]

Its convincingly worse

[@alexnoel2]

Dolan is the real villain here

[@johnlukach4091]

He certainly is but after watching this...... holy shit!

[@TeeMFD]

John Lukach banned

[@dusk6159]

No, it's both, then when the worst of the worst Isiah left Dolan remained the only shit.

[@reginaldmassey3272]

I hate dolan as much as I hate fuckin trump, Isaiah Thomas is an asshole.

[@CJEstradaMartinez]

Quoting the words of Urinating Tree: "This is a man who shouldn't be anywhere near a franchise, let alone running it." Those were his words in describing Sacramento Kings owner Vivek Ranadive. However, the same could also be said about former Knicks president, GM, and coach Isiah Thomas.

[@Ken_.Backwood]

Im still trying to get rid of those memories

[@lucien8476]

Kenyon Cooper memories fam

[@andremoreno1112]

Khris Snyder you spoke too soon.

[@DarkKnightofHeaven]

those memories may continue for a while yet.

[@Ken_.Backwood]

Well abt porzingis..............

[@pp3k3jamail]

Kenyon Cooper Scott Layden was worse I'm not a Knicks fan but he was there from 1999 to 2004 and he was worse than Isaiah Thomas. Scott layden handed out bad contract at the bank contract.

[@AE-vu3nt]

"Isaiah Thomas is the worst executive." Phil Jackson: "Hold my beer."

[@DanTheGreat]

I go back to these vid whenever I'm feeling down just to have a good laugh. Always works.

[@trvspvrk]

Knicks fans hate Isiah so much for this😂. I’m a Nets fan so I guess we’re in the same boat for what Billy King did to us

[@williefaulker]

Jon Swavyy as a sixer fan I'm not fond of billy king myself lol

[@gamingislife3332]

Ya man I feel you at least our current gm is smart

[@TrulyyGotIt]

I'm a knicks fan n wat Isiah did was so hurtful

[@yell0wberry]

Right now, the Knicks wished they had the "problems" the Nets have currently

[@TS-kk9ei]

As a pistons fan I think he made a great job.

[@ianosaurus27]

Prime Time LoL!!!

[@rapptimes226]

Yup he did’t sign a average point guard 18 million or trade our best offensive player for a trash Blake griffin on a 25 million contract :)))))

[@NuggetsPatriot]

for keeping the Knicks from stopping the Pistons' title hopes haha

[@paulthompson5519]

I am also a PISTONS FAN great job

[@mr.bombastic6835]

As a Raptors fan....no, just no.

[@philipunangst]

Let's go! I told you 100k was coming soon! Congratulations and keep it up.

[@simonpetermartin4772]

Ex Gm Billy King of the Brooklyn Nets is the worst gm in sports history

[@SwiftSpice]

Simon Peter Martin Thank you. His shitty hindsight set them back years

[@andrewortiz6430]

Simon Peter Martin that trade was dumb but at that time they switch locations to Brookyln and got a new arena, they needed to bring in guys that would bring in some fans so they got KG, Pierce, Joe Johnson, Deron Williams which made them a playoff team for about 2 years and made them some fans and made some money, but after that it did set them back until this year where the Nets got Dlo,Okafor,Dinwiddie, Jarret Allen young guys to add with Rondae Hollis Jefferson, Nik Statukas, Caris Levert, that Billy with Billy was dumb and smart at the same time

[@shawna7813]

At least Thomas was eventually fired. There was nothing Billy King could do to get fired by Russian ownership. Not sure what he had on them...

[@simonpetermartin4772]

Andrew Ortiz lol nigga what?! There is nothing smart about trading 5+ of 1st round trades for some aging superstars. The nets miss out on players like Lillard, Towns, Porzingas, etc. As a net fan I know the true stupidity of king

[@simonpetermartin4772]

Andrew Ortiz ps DLo, Lavert, Allen, Okafor, and Dinwiddie are all thanks to Sean Marks

[@1mfilms]

His run as GM really made me dislike him. However, now on NBA TV, I like him again; Isiah's actually a really good commentator and enjoyable to listen to.

[@tybney]

Nice video Andy you are the real MVP thank you for the video

[@mballerofficial]

3:44 R.I.P. the man Craig Sager one of the only times you’ll see him with a boring suit 😂 #sagerstrong

[@jeen-yus2926]

Anyone remember nba ballers with Stephan Marburg on the cover?

[@darrengordon-hill]

I bark at My dogs Bling bling baby

[@Ray-tf2ps]

Does anyone notice a patent of good players gotten bad when they start playing for knicks?

[@raymonbristol9628]

What about all the good players

[@MyHeartIsOpen2You]

The Knicks are where good careers go to die

[@2001coolchemist]

The Knicks in the past 20 years are the kings of getting the all-stars of yesteryear and giving them crazy contracts for their retirement pension.

[@flygenyus2186]

I’ll never forget the 2002 draft where the Knicks drafted Nene but traded him with mark jackson & Marcus camby for mcdyse then this guy gets injured in the preseason lol

[@SDSOverfiend]

Fly Genyus when Stoudimre was available

[@tcapo8022]

@@SDSOverfiend exactly bruh, can yu imagine having a young healthy STAT!?!? I mean he won ROY that year man n he would've definitely been the #1 option/Focal point off the RIP 4 sureee

[@SDSOverfiend]

@@tcapo8022 Please .... Please don't remind me. Knicks Front office was so past-minded. They refuse to modernize themselves with any era change

[@deanbenford7363]

@@SDSOverfiend That's hindsight though, several teams passed on him because that was the dreadful era of high schoolers who thought they were nba-ready and flamed out miserably. Knicks were like 3 games over .500 with him as the franchise player in 2010-11 before Melo came, and ironically he was completely washed after that 2010-11 season so don't feel too bad.

[@SDSOverfiend]

@@deanbenford7363 And what was McDyess!? Broken the moment we got him. Didn’t draft Amare, Draft Nene traded him for damage goods who broke his knee in a preseason game. Don’t matter what Stoudemire didn’t do after 2011. The others didn’t do shit for the 9 years they did play 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Boston02170]

Billy King is probably the worst GM ever: no other GM ruined 2 franchises during his tenure.

[@checkbruh2595]

Boston02170 lol

[@dominikmatic4032]

Boston02170 lmao

[@pp3k3jamail]

Reece Samuel I just commented the same thing. Billy king was awful when he was with the Sixers. I can't stand Billy King so when the Nets hired him I was literally laughing like why would you do that and look what he ended up doing with the nets.

[@reecesamuel2023]

MICOLE WHYTE thank you sir glad to see I'm not alone in my principles

[@pp3k3jamail]

Reece Samuel I do think Scott Layden who was GM for the Knicks from 1999 to 2004 was worse than Isaiah Thomas though. Scott Layden handed out some terrible contracts that Isaiah had to maneuver out of when he took the job after Scott Layden got fired.

[@EdillColon]

This was great. You should do one about the lakers' Buss family. How it went from Dr Buss, to Jim's destructive reign and now Jennie.

[@ma5io]

He's basically billy king before billy king

[@H2Mass]

Andy, what are you doing for your 100k special? I'm curious if you'd do a challenge for a collaboration like a trivia or something. That'd be dope.

[@AndyHoops]

How To Make Anything Sound Stupid im doing a giveaway for 3 shoes from the nba store, i made a post on the community section of my channel for more info

[@askarana]

Never forget how the team in the 07-08 season literally quit on him, i will never forget the beatdown Boston gave them that year on national TV (TNT)

[@iamhungey12345]

Hindsight was a funny thing as Scott Layden was the one who dealt the first blow to the Knicks which led to him getting fired and replaced by Isiah Thomas. Zeke turns out to be worse but remember that Layden screwed up first. It seems like the Knicks have trouble finding a good GM the past few decades.

[@justoneofmany]

What you talking?!?! Eddy Curry was great....in NBA Live 08 😂😂😂😂

[@sammysam2615]

Thomas got nothing on Nets old GM Billy King. The man gave away the future franchise for broken and never were players

[@enochraine5534]

Because the owner told him to

[@cwatson5761]

Do a story on Scott Layden, the man who really started the ruination of the nix trading Ewing for five players that never panned out then strapping the team with a bad contract for Allan Houston. Other than a few seasons the nix have been bad ever since.

[@user-bg2fl4gy6c]

Secret Base made it

[@sportingminds3311]

An alright video. This article really fleshes out the context behind some of these trades and signings.

[@progaming442]

Isiah Thomas was a terrible gm

[@Someone-vq6jk]

Thanks for pointing that out

[@TPTGopher]

TRC And a much, much worse human being.

[@brandonborak9979]

TRC uoryrurt

[@brandonborak9979]

TRC g

[@brandonborak9979]

TRC h

[@AkshaySKrishnan]

Dang was gonna make a video on him too.... But I still loved it!

[@Paperbagman555]

Great video idea. Man, I saw Isaiah Thomas on one of those punditry shows a while ago - I wasn't even aware of his past reign of terror. James Dolan needs to leave if the Knicks ever want a fresh start

[@DBreezy4life]

Had to ask myself if I wanted to be depressed today before clicking on this video

[@jaimep39238]

great video captain hindsight!

[@davidclaiborne6547]

Not defending Isiah, but Scott Layden (his predecessor) wasn't much better. He gave 30 year old Allan Houston a 6 yr/$100M contract, which was so bad it literally created the amnesty clause. He also traded Marcus Camby and a freshly drafted Nene to the Nuggets for Antonio McDyess, who ended up playing only 18 games for the Knicks due to injury before being sent off to Phoenix in the Marbury deal. Not to mention his fetish for acquiring ex-Jazz players who had terrible contracts (see: Howard Eisley and Shandon Anderson)

[@tonecapi6997]

David Claiborne also traded Ewing away can't forget that smfh

[@theregiment889]

David Claiborne thank you.... now this is someone who knows his basketball 🏀👍🏽👀

[@SDSOverfiend]

He also drafted Weiss instead of Artest, Ignored Signing Aware in favor of Nene.... Mike FUCKING Sweetney in 2003 when.. Never.. Oh god.. The pain. Smh

[@DamnMixes]

layden was worse than zeke, much worse, but the new york media were ready to kill zeke's character at any given chance. In james dolan ownership years most of the guys that played for the knicks that time had their worst years. Thats some amazing resume on this pathetic owner

[@kevinburke6055]

David Claiborne funny thing is Isiah was being praised too in NY for the McDuess trade at the time. Lol

[@therearenorules]

Congrats on 100k I been in here since 24k

[@AndyHoops]

Was Isiah worse than David Kahn?

[@lordofwine9282]

No.

[@ritvikdutta4824]

Nah

[@vita9010]

He was not the worse. He did well in Toronto

[@isiahbanks2987]

Andy Hoops congrats on 100,000 subscribers

[@dontdoittoyoself6786]

Isiah was really bad but he's not even close to the worse. He drafted the likes of David Lee, Damon Stoudamire and Tracy McGrady. Scott Layden was worse on the Knicks funny how no one brings that up. But as a person he's trash.

[@toddbiesel4288]

Jerome James? As Bill Raftery might say, "Mail it in, Jerome!"

[@serroche]

congrats on the 100k subscribers mate, btw we all know that your name is Andy by now xD

[@MrAitraining]

There are many other GM's who ruined the Knicks. Still to this day.

[@DamnMixes]

Isiah was drafting really well. He is not even top 10 worst gm ever. But because he worked for the knicks franchise every bad thing gets overblown like crazy. The players that Zeke signed or drafted had much better careers after they left knicks: David Lee is a champion Zach Randolph might get his jersey retired in Memphis Crawford still in the league as a servicable scorer Nate Robinson had great years in boston and chicago which proves once again that at least zeke had a great eye for the talent

[@dionr1168]

Let it also be known that even before all that, he drafted Tracy McGrady, who went in the Hall of Fame in his first year of eligibility.

[@Mastaace]

Well I came back to this video remembering people arguing about if Isiah or Phil were worse as Knicks GM, and guys like Billy King & Scott Laydon. But on RealGM an article popped up about 'The Stepian Rule', which I had previously no knowledge of, and although he was the owner, Ted Stepian might just be the worst sports executive I've ever seen. "In a span of less than five months, Stepien had shipped away the team’s first round picks in 1983, 1984, 1985 and 1986 and to make matters worse, shortly before he had control of the team they traded their 1982 first to the Lakers which eventually became the No. 1 pick and James Worthy." Dude fucked it up so badly that when the new owner took over a couple years later, the NBA just gave them first rounders back for free so the team didn't collapse completely. But still, the players they got played a combined 170 games or something, then the players who were chosen with the traded picks wound up being: Derek Harper (1983), Sam Perkins (1984), Detlef Schrempf (1985) and Roy Tarpley (1986). SMH that's BAAAAAAD.

[@BenFrankDig]

Congrats on 💯k ‼️

[@Gerboxification]

That Amino AD was sliiiccckkk.

[@DSSProductions]

Do one about Phil Jackson's Tenure with the Knicks. He set us back a couple years again... The Noah signing, Derek Fisher, trading chandler, JR, Shump, and Young Timmy Jr for peanuts... It was horrible...

[@kohsmoger1567]

Without Phil you wouldn’t have Porzingis

[@groundbeef174]

Hey Andy can you do a video on Laimbeer and the bad boys piston era?

[@derekant1612]

Ground Beef There's already a few pretty good documentaries out there. Worth checking out because they interviewed the players too

[@benjamincastrello4620]

+Andy Hoops you should do what happened with Wally Sczerbiak carreer no one talks about him in youtube

[@yell0wberry]

The one really funny thing that comes to mind when I think of the Knicks is their first round game they were in against the Miami Heat with LeBron and Wade. The heat lost that game at the buzzer at MSG and somebody drops confetti and balloons on to the court for the one and only win the Knicks have had in nearly 10 years

[@ndrocca]

What is up with New York professional sports teams with the colour orange having shit management? Knicks, Mets and Islanders.

[@MrDust1981]

lmao! the mets have not shaken the habit of signing past-their-prime vets who excelled in the hitter utopia known as the american league, although it is clear they were smart to move on from harvey(may his w.s. game 5 pitching heroics live on in memory though)

[@nrkgalt]

Or green. One need only look at the Jets’ history of drafting players.

[@ryana6250]

do a video like this on phil jackson

[@luobomu9747]

Berri & Schmidt use a whole chapter discussing ITs tenure in NY in their book "Stumbling wins". Well worth a read. Basically their conclusion is that: Yes, IT made a lot of poor decisions, but, another GM is likely to have made the same mistakes.

[@luobomu9747]

"Stumbling ON wins". Sorry.

[@inmate77]

Do one on John Paxson/Gar Forman era in Chicago.

[@VenomousStare]

LOVE these Knicks videos!

[@shyamshah7101]

Congrats on getting 100K!

[@tommy2chips]

I am glad you did this video. :)

[@hatsuhioki9361]

Id be searching for criminal activity in those deals, on suspicion of geting cuts from large deals to bad players

[@clay9333]

I’ll never understand why organizations continue to think that great players will be great executives. They are two opposite ends of the spectrum. There should be a video like this about Matt Millen’s time as the Detroit Lions “President and CEO”...

[@dionr1168]

Isiah was just a scapegoat. It was all Dolan's fault. At least Isiah has a drafted Hall of Famer to his name.

[@hartwellbuilding]

Isiah had good eye for talent. He consistently drafted quality draft picks.

[@electrinatormusic7728]

Who did he draft

[@dionr1168]

@@electrinatormusic7728 Tracy McGrady

[@MetalMadness_00]

@@electrinatormusic7728 also drafted Trevor Ariza in 2004, Frye, Lee & Robinson in 2005, Wilson Chandler in 2007

[@megamanxhunter]

@@electrinatormusic7728 Damon Stoudemire.

[@handbanana5555]

congrats on 100k

[@suiken3149]

Isiah maybe a bad GM overall, but he did drafted some real studs. Damon Stoudamire Marcus Camby Tracy McGrady David Lee Channing Frye Nate Robinson Trevor Ariza

[@MrDust1981]

we all know isaiah was a scapegoat, the knicks were handcuffed by shiznit contracts way before i.t. came on board, the allan houston contract was just the tip of the iceberg, they've continued to suck way after i.t. got fired so obviously it is ownership

[@c22to]

I remember this very well. Stephen A. Smith used to make a living off trashing Marbury and Isiah, lmao. these videos that talk about forgotten stories from the league are good.

[@dionr1168]

At least Isiah's first move as the executive of the Knicks wasn't signing a player WHO WAS ON CRACK!

[@redpepperdave]

Got to say it has been very difficult to be a knicks fan, I hope Knox and our new coach David will help get us back to at least being a great defensive team.

[@baldsportsfan9368]

Omg 4 years later look what happened lol

[@RumFighter]

Can't believe you didn't mention his "Don't go into the paint"

[@vexacon]

Good thing Becky Hammon was not there as an assistant, she'd have Thomas leering at her with his tongue hanging out, playing pocket pool!

[@WarTheory]

Weird saw a video of starberry eating Vick’s vapor rub... and I remember reading when an ambulance was sent to Thomas house and he was taken away but said it was his daughter...

[@Ben_the_Rosafan]

You should really talk about the time Isiah bought the Continental Basketball Association. It’s one thing to be a bad GM, it’s quite another to drive an entire LEAGUE into bankruptcy in the space of 18 months.

[@nickdeavers5816]

HYEYBT I used to go to Gary Steelheads basketball all the time and it was fun the city of Gary built a huge stadium and now it’s a giant useless turd

[@IAmNap_]

He did the same thing with the Raptors in their infancy.

[@yigitduman9888]

Great topic

[@Castigar48]

Nice Andy, ive been waiting for a story about how bad Isaiah was for the knicks

[@frankdux3605]

Hey Andy, you forgot to mention the Allan Houston contract. It's considered to be one of the worst contracts in NBA history!

[@iron3491]

Please do 5 quickest team rebuilds

[@devonjamesbongalan7814]

Renaldo Balkman banned in the Philippine Basketball

[@SaSpursFan]

What about David khan in Minnesota

[@dantean]

If Brown had been retained and Thomas shown the door, the K's would have had a shot at improving over time. And it wasn't a "reign of terror" but of "error." Thx for posting.

[@jatrellwilliams8814]

David Khan has to be worst GM of all time. The guy had the #5 and 6 pick in the 2009 draft and picked 2 PG's back to back...Ricky Rubio and Johnny Flynn

[@dontdoittoyoself6786]

Jatrell Williams Most GM's had Rubio as the number 1 rated pg at the draft.

[@Mastaace]

Rubio wasn't going to come over right away. And he didn't...

[@Mastaace]

Also I'm not saying that it was smart lol. Just that's why he did it.

[@pp3k3jamail]

Jatrell Williams Billy king he ruined two franchises Sixers in the Nets. also the general manager before Isaiah Thomas with the NY Knicks Scott Layden from 1999-2004 was absolutely atrocious also.

[@jasonfire3434]

Two PGs back to back and neither one was Steph Curry, who went right after them. Yeah that's pretty bad.

[@Jz115zombies]

Lmao somehow I find this hilarious becuz it almost seems like by the way he’s smiling in the thumbnail, he did this all on purpose.

[@gamingvideosbyanthony7138]

I’m a Knicks fan.... 😭

[@encinobalboa]

I would have thought it was Elgin Baylor with the Clippers.

[@TheAnnette]

It’s kinda weird how were able to trade a pick that far in the future (the 2010 Gordon Hayward pick) back in 2004

[@Mastaace]

Protection stipulations most likely.

[@LarthMedia]

Those Thomas years broke me as a Knicks fan way back when...

[@ochocinco3781]

I remember smashing all these old knicks teams in nba live in the old days.

[@heckstersjr]

Hmmm... Renaldo Balkman. Name's so familiar to me

[@tarnel9]

Consider one on the Phil Jackson Knicks tenure.

[@alvininthechipmonks]

I swear, doc rivers was trying to take this title from IT when he was the gm of the clippers

[@BigDutchKingTut]

@7:38 im convinced that Thomas made under the table deals on the contracts. He got a lil back end on them 50million dollars deals..

[@mipride2580]

What about his tenure with Toronto? Drafting Damon Stoudamire, Marcus Camby, Tracy McGrady. I believe the NY issue was a terrible owner holding everyone back.

[@jaystevens9993]

Joe Dumars is a close second for destroying Pistons.

[@biongrenn8010]

I have seen and remember a kid holding a sign saying "fire isaiah" during a draft...

[@robertshuxley]

there's gonna be video like this about MJ and the bobcats/hornets one day

[@razkable]

theres 10 clear draft mistakes mj has made...1. kwame brown enough said 2. adam morrison 3. jared jefferies 4. bismak biyombo 5. michael kidd gildchrist 6. cody zeller 7. noah vonlah 8. frank kamentzky 9. 10. malik monk..some of these players weren't bad but when you draft them in the lottery mostly top 11 above so many better nba ready clear players its a joke ...then there was the trading signing firesale of the 2010 playoff roster that saw mj fire larry brown who coached at his alma matter N. carolina and thee team then that lost 5 starters in tyson chandler boris diaw stephan jackson gerald wallace and raymond felton all solid vets 3 of whom won nba titles as starters in chandler, diaw and jackson 1 of whom won an ncaa title as a starter for mj's fellow tar heels in charlotte ironcially 5 years prior in felton and the last being an all star in wallace and who could forget trading away young 20 ppg. future 4 time all star richard hamilton for 1 and a half years of older jerry stackhouse and finally signing tyrus thomas to an insane deal... trading for a washed up ben gordon and corey maggette with huge contacts also is on his resume

[@berda7370]

1:25 that’s my birthday lol

[@dukekong2412]

Honestly I think all of IT's bad decisions came as a result of the Stephon Marbury trade bungle. A trade that would've worked out under most situations, but alas, it was Stephon Marbury. The fallout from this probably threw off any game he had as a GM especially since this was one of his very first big moves. I think IT's next moves (signing James and Brown) represented a panicked effort to try and make a 360 degree turn from the Stephon Marbury trade in hopes that veteran leadership combined with a completely nontraditional way of measuring player success (as in Jerome James) was a better formula for success (since Stephon Marbury, under traditional metrics, failed spectacularly, but only for that specific instance). Unfortunately, instead of finding success, IT kept trying to make extreme pivots to atone for his mistakes, which only led to more mistakes that needed atoning for.

[@iamhungey12345]

He's basically a medicine that seem to help you get better at first, but then it made the illness worsen after a while. This sums up the Knicks during that time, the first year with him was promising as he helped got them to the playoffs (though as a last seed) and were leading the division for a while in 2005 but then...they died.

[@AirRusher1992]

I hope Seth Rosenthal of Secret Base watched this. Lol. 🤣😝

[@pollilo1]

This makes me want to start a my league on 2k with the Knicks,and win multiple championships.

[@LargeDude2023]

Great vid. They should have known after what he did to the CBA. Phil Jackson was another bumb.

[@lakerfan2874]

Phil might be worse than Zeke

[@carboy101]

Victorthegreat74 Nope

[@lakerfan2874]

Dr0pkidd The only thing good Phil did was draft Kristaps and its too early to say about Frank, while Zeke had gotten some trafe assets in to get Melo whixh was a good idea in the first place Phil gave the Knicks for the first year of his job as GM was the franchise record in losses for a season in 65 losses, Zeke went and tanked just like Hinkie for the 76ers hell Hinkie is getting praise just saying that when Zeke got into New York they were going into a rebuild mode while in 2014 they weren't and still lost badly for 3 seasons straight he tried to get rid of Melo for the three years he was there which is pretty bad looking at the teams back then 65 losses 2015, 2016 still losing then in 2017 the worst superteam in the history of the NBA couldn't even get to playoff contention with the team they had and then they split and what you have is a washed-up Center in Noah, Kristaps, and the others they stood with the team, Phil even traded Hardaway Jr. to the Hawks and he came back because Phil got fired for 3 years he was there.

[@dontdoittoyoself6786]

Being bad helped Phil out I think he's getting too much credit for number 4 overall pick. If the team didn't suck so bad they most likely wouldn't be in position to get him. He sucked or tanked either way anyone can tank a team.

[@panner11]

In no way did Thomas tank just like Hinkie. Thomas traded away a lot of picks and got overrated scrubs in return, which is not something a tanking team ever does.

[@22BCMF]

Dontdoittoyoself anyone can tank a team, but not anyone can draft a superstar talent