The Story of Serial Killers Albert Flick and John Joubert | Hometown Tragedy: Crime Briefs

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In this episode of Hometown Tragedy: Crime Briefs, we profile two serial killers who left several communities rattled by violence.
Featured Serial Killers:
John Joubert:
Born and raised in Portland, Maine, John Joubert was 19 years old when he claimed the life of his first victim. From 1982 to 1983, Joubert murdered a total of three boys in Maine and Nebraska.
Albert Flick:
After serving 21 years of a 30-year prison sentence for murdering his wife, Albert Flick was released from prison in 2000. Despite being released for good behavior, Flick continued to exhibit a pattern of violent behavior.
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@marshasolomon6563
@marshasolomon6563 Жыл бұрын
STOP
@guylainelavoie7571
@guylainelavoie7571 8 ай бұрын
To be honest, I'm 59 years old, and I was most of my life against the death penalty. Maybe I looked to much is a black and white manner. Manny years ago, I watched an episode of a show called true detective. It was nothing like these documentaries as in it was about one detective per episode sharing on the case that most affected them in both their work and their human side. One story took place in Vancouver Washington, terrible crimes of 4 children murdered by a sexual prredator and a psychopath called Wesrly Allan Doddx, who brutally hunted, sexually assaulted and murderedthese children oldest 11 youngest 4 yrs old. Somehow, I became obsessed with that case, and researched to a point where what I found was beyond anything I could have ever imagined and to this day, I wish I never had. After all these years, it still makes me ill. Doddx was given the death penalty, which he publically asked for, saying on camera, and chilled me to the bone, if you don't kill me, I will wait for that chance to kill a prison guard,, ESCAPE, KIDNAP RAPE AND KILL KIDS. AT THAT MOMENT, ALL THE RESERVATION I HAD ABOUT THE DEATH PENALTY I HAD, DISSAPPEARED. I was glad that Wash my Allan Doddx was Chung by the neck and I believe children are safer without a cold blooded sadist and sexually deprived, child killer. There are some I'm glad were not given death, but 300 yrs in prison, where for 23 hours of the day, they live in a cage and despite their looking cocky , are deprived of all liberty and don't get to have visitors, don't get to see the light of day. There's the matter of the appeal circuit courts they abuse at the cost of millions in taxpayer money, who don't realize that this can take 20 yrs, affording them a good legal defence to feed their MALIGNANT narcissism, at the cost of families of victims having to attend every court appeals, having to relive the most heart wrenching violence and losses. Unlike popular beliefs, it's not more expensive to keep them alive. I assure you, it isn't. And their death, are much more kind than the suffering they inflicted on these innocent victims, regardless of their standing within society With that said, I'm glad this guy here was executed and that it was the electric chair
@michaelharvey971
@michaelharvey971 2 жыл бұрын
The judge should be charged for letting him out to murder
@virgomoons
@virgomoons 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree
@sherrywahl2324
@sherrywahl2324 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree, judge should be accountable for his actions.
@markfurney3670
@markfurney3670 2 жыл бұрын
I agree what does? (Age out) mean I have never heard this before and I hope to God nobody else ever hears it again. And this guy is a judge? I don't understand? He should have died in prison. Bottom line. Fing bull
@miljenkonovak2839
@miljenkonovak2839 2 жыл бұрын
I agree!!!
@yourbeardispatchyaf
@yourbeardispatchyaf 2 жыл бұрын
@My Talking PetsShe said Rubber Squirrel
@jamesl9371
@jamesl9371 2 жыл бұрын
Age out of violence?! Unbelievable There’s so many reasons to give murderers life 1. They can never do it again 2. Take a life and pay with your freedom for the rest of your life 3. Protect the public from the monsters
@lindanorris2455
@lindanorris2455 2 жыл бұрын
DEATH PENALTY IS MUCH, MUCH BEETTER! WHY SHOULD US TAX PAYERS UPPORT THESE CLOWNS FOR LIFE?
@yankee2666
@yankee2666 2 жыл бұрын
They need to be executed so there isn't a Hurricane Carter or Central Park Five situation, where killers and molesters go free because the evidence becomes "aged out" and convoluted.
@jimwerther
@jimwerther 2 жыл бұрын
Numbers 1 and 3 are the same
@judybrown1810
@judybrown1810 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@adventuresofthedoubleamput5295
@adventuresofthedoubleamput5295 2 жыл бұрын
Better yet just bury them deep why waste tax payer money and makethe victims family and friends suffer or pay for these peoples to live the rest of their lifes
@marynahouse5853
@marynahouse5853 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it seems like the judge had already ‘aged out’ of any sound decision making ability.
@DinoCism
@DinoCism Жыл бұрын
I think he said the quiet part out loud when he said keeping him in prison didn't make "fiscal" sense. The cheap ass government doesn't want to keep killers in jail because it costs money and they don't think the lives of the average peasant is worth that money. They aren't bleeding heart humanitarians, they are greedy, corrupt bastards who don't give a fuck. They know this guy's next victim isn't likely to be them.
@annazaman9657
@annazaman9657 Жыл бұрын
Aged out. Seriously? How much effort does it take to wield a knife and kill someone? Not that much
@securitassecurity1579
@securitassecurity1579 Жыл бұрын
Stupid ass Judge couldve prevented another death smh
@lilgorgo
@lilgorgo 2 жыл бұрын
Huh? The lady who saw the grown man threatening a little boy with a knife thought it was a "lovers' quarrel"?
@carolinerowles5951
@carolinerowles5951 2 жыл бұрын
I know and she also thought it could've been a dad dealing with his naughty son 😕
@LittleBittySaidit
@LittleBittySaidit 2 жыл бұрын
You think you’d react a certain way in a situation but it’s never the same in person. Your mind doesn’t want to go there, it doesn’t want to see what it’s really seeing. Your mind starts making excuses to justify what your seeing. It’s the body’s Survival mode!
@ExtraterrestrialExcrement
@ExtraterrestrialExcrement 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah,Wtf Was That For A Statement?? 😳😐
@josephinecatherinemusso1125
@josephinecatherinemusso1125 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously she needed glasses..... seriously sometimes I feel witnesses get it wrong?
@nlwilson4892
@nlwilson4892 2 жыл бұрын
She probably didn't see the knife. It wasn't said how far away she was at the time.
@DavoInMelbourne
@DavoInMelbourne 2 жыл бұрын
The second case was completely preventable. Two senior legal professionals recommended that he receive a long sentence and the judge ignored that advice and gave him 3 years. Of course, zero recourse for the judge meanwhile 2 young boys grow up without their mother. Tragic.
@DinoCism
@DinoCism Жыл бұрын
The judge said the quiet part out loud "it doesn't make FISCAL sense to keep him in prison." People always wonder "do these judges have a soft spot for criminals" but at the end what it is is that the judges have a soft spot for $$$. That second woman he killed died because the state deemed that her life wasn't worth the cost of keeping this old murderer incarcerated. At the end of the day judges are rich, they live in their gated communities, not a halfway house in sight. They dump these killers on the rest of us because they we aren't worth the money to keep safe. That's what parole is actually about. It's not about being humanitarian or whatever it's a way of saving money. When you take that into account the prison system and all these true crime stories make a lot more sense in an infuriating way.
@securitassecurity1579
@securitassecurity1579 Жыл бұрын
Well Said Brotha
@Lilmommyoflove
@Lilmommyoflove 2 жыл бұрын
The judge should be held accountable
@fernandohenriquepereiracha9996
@fernandohenriquepereiracha9996 6 ай бұрын
Man's justice fails, God's justice is accurate
@jeremymiller2124
@jeremymiller2124 2 жыл бұрын
Props to the state of Nebraska for executing Joubert. Albert Flick should never have been let out. Why do the courts believe you can rehab a murderer? A killer is a killer and will always be that. He should have rotted in prison.
@triciadomayer6760
@triciadomayer6760 8 күн бұрын
Joubert pled guilty in hopes of avoiding the death penalty. The judges were nope, you're gonna fry. And he did. He was executed the same night as TWA Flight 800 crashed off Long Island.
@skuffel5405
@skuffel5405 2 жыл бұрын
How many people besides me want to send a letter to that judge...shame on him!!
@beingcarter6310
@beingcarter6310 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I don’t think a murder deserves a second chance. The person who they killed doesn’t get a second chance. Lock the offender up for life 🤷🏽‍♀️
@judybrown1810
@judybrown1810 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. They need to start getting corporal punishment and enforce Oklahoma does..hmm. Think Scott Peterson is getting the chair, or whatever...clear up some prisons..
@paolo11x11
@paolo11x11 2 жыл бұрын
The key word in the Judge's statement in the Albert Flick case was "fiscal," i.e. it was going to cost the state too much to imprison Flick. And 'he looks like a sweet old man, let's give him another chance' - after just reading out a laundry list of Flick's violent crimes against women - shows an astounding lack of judgment. Do these idiot judges ever face repercussions for this kind of malpractice, or are they perpetually sheltered by their 'good old boy' networks?
@jimwerther
@jimwerther 2 жыл бұрын
Thank your local Democrat
@DinoCism
@DinoCism Жыл бұрын
I've always suspected that this is what's really behind the parole system. "We want a justice system but we don't want to pay for it, that comes out of our donors pockets."
@allthethingsstickers7030
@allthethingsstickers7030 7 ай бұрын
I noticed that too. It was a financial thing more than he didn’t feel he would commit another crime like that. So sad.
@RicheetheBee
@RicheetheBee Күн бұрын
@@jimwertherof course leave it to the man to ignore the actual rape
@LittleBittySaidit
@LittleBittySaidit 2 жыл бұрын
The judge is 100% responsible for the death of the 2nd lady in the 2nd case. He has to live with that …although I bet he’s such a narcissist that he doesn’t see it that way.
@buschovski1
@buschovski1 2 жыл бұрын
he probably has never seen it that way. never even considered he was wrong. i sure hope hes feeling guilty for her murder. but i doubt it
@BB-rn6so
@BB-rn6so 2 жыл бұрын
A narcissist. Nah. Rachel you could be exactly right. The excuse for a judge is responsible. I would be highly surprised if that judge ever gave it a second thought... Judge guilty of wrong doing. Most are like fundamental baptist preachers. Full blown Narcissist that are never wrong about anything...
@DinoCism
@DinoCism Жыл бұрын
The way he sees it he saved the government money, that's all he cares about.
@LittleBittySaidit
@LittleBittySaidit Жыл бұрын
@@DinoCism prob!
@speedknot1131
@speedknot1131 2 жыл бұрын
My mom was a paralegal for Jouberts prosecutor and she has told me about the pictures she had to look at, and trust me the murders were much worse then told by this episode.
@MsTygame
@MsTygame 10 ай бұрын
The images people must see for their profession has to be what nightmares are made of.
@Maxy_9090
@Maxy_9090 2 жыл бұрын
The judge in the second case was ridiculous & obsurd!! Age dont matter, a murderer is a murderer!!! That judge allowed this evil creep to kill another woman infront of her children!!!! Im absolutely disgusted!
@thimashiangel3026
@thimashiangel3026 2 жыл бұрын
Throw that judge into Prison with that old tart!
@jimwerther
@jimwerther 2 жыл бұрын
Age usually matters. But this guy had already proven that it didn't in his case, so yeah, the judge blew it bad.
@MikeyJMJ
@MikeyJMJ 2 жыл бұрын
If you're old enough to murder someone you're old enough for the death penalty
@jimwerther
@jimwerther 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeyJMJ A. That is completely irrelevant to the matter at hand. B. As it happens, the SCOTUS ruled otherwise.
@ertjiesb4158
@ertjiesb4158 2 жыл бұрын
Joubert really got in these interviewers heads and manipulated them quite easily it seems. His whole way of speaking was quite creepy and gave me chills. I don't believe he was sorry. I do believe he never thought of getting caught because of his narcissism, the possibility never crossed his mind.
@jasonstaples4364
@jasonstaples4364 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t slip under the police radar, they kept arresting his old ass an the system kept letting him out
@jamesl9371
@jamesl9371 2 жыл бұрын
Keep murderers and violent criminals in prison. Let non violent offenders out. The judge and jury should be aware of everything a violent offender has done. Especially murder and violent assaults
@katecarlisle8383
@katecarlisle8383 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else find the attitude of the teacher wrong? Why didn't he stand up for himself against the bullies ? WTF!why didn't you step in & stop the bullying?
@vanessamcallister4235
@vanessamcallister4235 2 жыл бұрын
Right? Smh.
@8luvbug
@8luvbug 5 ай бұрын
Right? It was almost like she was bragging about him being bullied. She had dupers delight.
@TimApple.
@TimApple. 2 жыл бұрын
"Nobody has a crystal ball" Uh yeah, dude, it was called a jailer from the prison this monster was in telling the judge that he's a bad man, and shouldn't be released.
@sandragraves1177
@sandragraves1177 2 жыл бұрын
You regretted it the WHOLE weekend?! How difficult for you....
@karimmelikian934
@karimmelikian934 2 жыл бұрын
the judge in the second story is just unbelievable. the dude was nearly 70 when he sentenced him. "age out of violence". it's like saying that to a teenager. if ur still committing crimes like that at that age, you never will "age out of violence". next time, listen to professionals who say not to let the person out so soon. I wonder what happened to the judge. I hope he was fired at the very least
@shelleyg1836
@shelleyg1836 Жыл бұрын
nothing will happen tothe judge. he will never face punishment for his terribly bad decision. they never do. police work like heck to catch these idiots and judges give them a slap on the wrist and set them free. disgusting u don't age out of violencd when u have a rap sheet of multiple offenses esp when u were 70 yrs old being sentenced yet again for a violent crime. judge was a complete moron.
@jknephew
@jknephew 2 жыл бұрын
Get that judge off the bench now and put him in the cell with this elderly reformed criminal!
@gypsy8961
@gypsy8961 2 жыл бұрын
Typical judicial system. Give repeat rapist, and child molesters a slap on the wrist, then act surprised when they do it again. Same thing here, he was violent from the beginning, and that's all he knows. The judge should be disbarred and held responsible for her murder, after all, he allowed it to happen after being warned by the d.a. and probation officer.
@morticiaheisenberg9679
@morticiaheisenberg9679 2 жыл бұрын
Gypsy Exactly what I came here to say. 2 people who know him warned the judge. Her blood is on that judge's hands🤬🤬🤬 We need to stand up and get these sentences to be longer and make sure these POS serve their entire sentence.
@adriandanielvalidomorales6130
@adriandanielvalidomorales6130 2 жыл бұрын
Moral of the history:do not understimate seniors
@dianabehr3169
@dianabehr3169 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like that judge had already aged out of his senses
@michellerosado8180
@michellerosado8180 2 жыл бұрын
Just pure evil.... Unnecessary heartbreak 💔
@Rocket_Queen_Australia
@Rocket_Queen_Australia 2 жыл бұрын
Those poor children watching their mother being murdered 😔
@TheChair2004
@TheChair2004 Жыл бұрын
My dad was friends with Chris Walden, he was supposed to walk home with Walden the day he was kidnapped, but due to a school event he stayed late, he could’ve been killed too.
@grumpygremlin2379
@grumpygremlin2379 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being killed for refusing to date a man old enough to be your father. Others who commented before me are right about the second case being completely preventable.
@msc8663
@msc8663 2 жыл бұрын
what the hell 3 years. that judge should have been kicked off the bench.
@helenduplessis4166
@helenduplessis4166 2 жыл бұрын
Not just about teaching children about staying safe... it is about teaching them about compassion and care for those on the fringes of our society. The kids that are lost... the kids who are ridiculed.. the kids who are abused... Something we can all do to help prevent the development of these killers...
@mdd1963
@mdd1963 2 жыл бұрын
Joubert was a horrible stain on the USAF's reputation and the local community. (A guy I knew worked with Joubert in the aircraft maintenance squadron, and said he was a just 'a little jerkweed dweeb')
@chrissmith-no3bo
@chrissmith-no3bo 2 жыл бұрын
My dad was John's boss. We were at Offuit from 81 to 84 and we moved back to Maine when he retired. In 85.
@tivvy9708
@tivvy9708 2 жыл бұрын
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@foucault8964
@foucault8964 2 жыл бұрын
Wow even judges can be stupid.
@curtislavallee8444
@curtislavallee8444 2 жыл бұрын
what she thought it could be a lovers querrel
@TeamCat1128
@TeamCat1128 2 жыл бұрын
There needs to be an accounting of judicial sentences and how successful they are in terms of the whether or not the offender immediately re-offends, especially after comments are made by the judge like the ones made here. For most of us, we’re rated on how well we do at our jobs. For judges that never seems to be the case. It’s just a “good old boy” system. It seems if we had accurate facts we could use to rate judges on, it would be helpful when it comes time to re-elect them to their seats. Just my opinion.
@eflow4786
@eflow4786 2 жыл бұрын
There should be an article published on each Judah’s and what their rulings were on different types of cases. You NEVER hear about judges being elected because they get to hide behind government tape
@LeLiuOfficial
@LeLiuOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
As usual, my question is always the same: Why does someone who committed such a brutal murder ever get the chance to be released? I guess our system's trying to save those tax dollars.
@RicheetheBee
@RicheetheBee Күн бұрын
That’s not true cuz plenty of lesser crimes serving much longer
@RebekahAPinto
@RebekahAPinto 2 жыл бұрын
Not everyone who when they become old they'll show weakness or frailty.
@jackiereynolds2888
@jackiereynolds2888 2 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable statement from that judge.
@paddy489
@paddy489 2 жыл бұрын
A lovers quarrel?! WTF is wrong with that woman. UNREAL.
@bethpimentel
@bethpimentel 4 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing. A man and a child???? I think I lost some brain cells.
@happydayz7857
@happydayz7857 Жыл бұрын
I’m happy to see all those men running on that security tape trying to save her. It’s unfortunate that they couldn’t.
@bridgethamilton6057
@bridgethamilton6057 2 жыл бұрын
The judge should be in jail.
@supergooner7581
@supergooner7581 2 жыл бұрын
Guaranteed that judge is a arrogant fool that still thinks he got his judgment right in his sentencing One, not all people age the same some people have the mental and physial capacity to go on commit crimes well into their 70s and beyond, maybe he should think about that next time.
@justme8837
@justme8837 2 жыл бұрын
Once a killer always a killer to me. Unless it is self defense. Those poor children left without a mom because someone believed age determines behavior. So sad.
@SecretSquirrelFun
@SecretSquirrelFun 2 жыл бұрын
That Flick was given only 3 years in 2014 after everyone involved with him, his parole officer etcetera stressed how dangerous he was is just appalling and shameful on the part of that sentencing judge, just shameful and totally irresponsible of him. I don’t usually assign individual blame on one person in situations where someone is acting in their capacity as a public servant, but in this case it’s abundantly clear that it was the judge that fUck3d up, he didn’t listen, he thought that he knew better than everyone else and he was absolutely and completely wrong. Shame on you sir, shame on you. As the woman said - it’s you that should be answering her children when they ask questions about why their mother is now dead, why the person responsible wasn’t still in prison.
@METALMISFIT6
@METALMISFIT6 2 жыл бұрын
"Its time to take domestic violence more serious" WELL YEA..DUH!!!!
@Evan-vy3zj
@Evan-vy3zj 2 жыл бұрын
I’m form Maine remember both of these!
@valleys1332
@valleys1332 2 жыл бұрын
Pair of monster's the world is better off without them
@dobby1313
@dobby1313 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else think of the song “celebrate good times come on” when you hear a serial killer gets executed
@RachelDex
@RachelDex 2 жыл бұрын
No
@dobby1313
@dobby1313 2 жыл бұрын
@@RachelDex oof that’s weird. Don’t kill anyone bud!
@robertsachs18
@robertsachs18 2 жыл бұрын
Both Joubert and Flick would fall into the lust killer category I believe.
@heatherbowlan1961
@heatherbowlan1961 2 жыл бұрын
Very great way you produce your documentary’s , love them .
@nykolegarner6457
@nykolegarner6457 2 жыл бұрын
Her kids should have that judges salary and pension for life judge should be disbarred smh same old story again again justice ass backwards
@fdoghan
@fdoghan 2 жыл бұрын
When you once cross the line taking others life.. there is no turning back.
@michaelbreen3729
@michaelbreen3729 2 жыл бұрын
She didn't know what to do. She REGETTED it for the HOLE weekend. That's two days only two days She felt REGET.
@Edelwiess1066
@Edelwiess1066 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same reaction. And also her casual use of the term 'lovers quarrel'. What the hell was that? Am i just naïve here? Is it normal to see a Older boy manhandle and abuse a younger one and think "Lovers"? Not to me anyways. Wow. Just wow... Also did you catch the disingenuous parents? Pretty blase' in light of what happened. And, last But not least.... Executed at 33... Sounds like a masonic thing. Weird. Ok back to my private crazy
@shotforshot5983
@shotforshot5983 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if that interview was conducted two days after the body was found. Secondly, we don't know how far away she was. Sometimes you know something's up by body language but that's all. The kiler was a small, baby faced guy. Perhaps older brother.
@Littlemouse884
@Littlemouse884 2 жыл бұрын
She has blood on her hands
@breez706
@breez706 2 жыл бұрын
People aren't used to seeing something and thinking that something is up, that said, lover's quarrel? It was a child?
@oppedly
@oppedly 2 жыл бұрын
What
@annazaman9657
@annazaman9657 2 жыл бұрын
Why did Joubert target young boys? Easy to control?
@robertwoods4070
@robertwoods4070 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts too................
@timmspencer4632
@timmspencer4632 2 жыл бұрын
The strange thing to think about in the second case, is that the two boys witnessed their mother being murdered at such a young age, that a lot of the time kids who see that violence grow up and commit acts of violence. They are considered monsters to society even after their tragic past. The judge who let him go should be considered the real monster. It’s just a vicious cycle..
@cherylmclaverty2182
@cherylmclaverty2182 2 жыл бұрын
That judge should be held accountable for the light sentence cause of his age wtf.
@amalbella8190
@amalbella8190 2 жыл бұрын
Without proper help, victims of bullies could potentially become criminals. Despite the terrible crimes John Joubert did, he was a victim of the INEPT & INCOMPETENT "teacher," and the society. Before retiring, I've seen plenty of cases of bullies outside my class, my students & their parents would turn to me seeking help, & I took care of the bullies. But, when I turned to the principals, they didn't care! They said the same thing! They're disgusting! May all the victims rest in peace, including J. Joubert.
@nikkikidd8428
@nikkikidd8428 2 жыл бұрын
When someone kills three boys in a state that has the death penalty he is not only committing murder he is committing suicide. Whether we believe in the death penalty or not if it exists in place where someone decides to kill someone, that person is killing themselves and society should not feel like they are choosing to kill that person because he made the decision to put himself at risk of receiving the death penalty.
@Soo_Blessed
@Soo_Blessed 2 жыл бұрын
More shocking to the community is the judge he's not old he's supposed to hold people accountable that's more shocking to the community
@manuelmoraleda9684
@manuelmoraleda9684 2 жыл бұрын
Group these serial killers together and tell them that they can each other with impunity. Q. Would they really kill each other ? What would prevent them from acting out that killing urge ?
@Gonegirls12
@Gonegirls12 2 жыл бұрын
Bragging
@manuelmoraleda9684
@manuelmoraleda9684 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gonegirls12 ??? Bragging ? All of these inmates are killers.
@Gonegirls12
@Gonegirls12 2 жыл бұрын
@@manuelmoraleda9684 many of these men, are serial killers. Usually once they talk, they talk to anyone who will listen. That’s why we get cellmate snitches. I’m going general here, there are always exceptions. We have learned from killers because they get off on reliving it. Some have killers who inspired them. Many are infamous, so there is that factor too. I think the intelligence of some theses killers are being ignored. In the real world there isn’t a yearly killer convention, where they get to get together with like minded individuals. You put 50 in a room, the child killers might go quickly. My opinion is the rest will brag. Retelling is reliving, listening is maybe fascinating, interesting. I think they would brag and have fun doing it. Isolation of these men/ women is part of the punishment. There isn’t the attention. It is proven most want the attention at some point. So Hell yes I think there would be bragging amongst most. Say 1/5 of them were kiddie killers, they are killed that still leaves my 40/50 of my pretend group of killers. Even the ones who are sociopaths and psychopaths will definitely need to express their perceived superiority in intelligence and skill. Some younger killers will have older ones as idols. So yup a room full of killers, people who have never had opportunity to mingle with their own kind. Will some kill each other, yeah I think so. I strongly believe they would enjoy the “party” first. Serial killers..,. Lots of stories, how they caught. It sounds bad, but I think it could prove to be a very educational for all parts of the legal system. Unfortunately for you, you engaged an over thinker. Also someone who grew up around law enforcement and has had a bit of class time. See even I had to go on and on to express why I believe what I do. Have you really thought about it? I would love to hear your hypothesis. I am totally fine that we don’t agree. Conversation/ opinion is what interests me. Not harassment. Looking at the same idea through an others eyes, and thoughts usually provides at least one thing you learn, or can look at differently. That one thing learned is worth any intelligent conversation. Love to hear your thoughts, my intent is respectful and should you or someone else like to really talk about it as adults, I’m game. I am not interested in being harassed, as I am sure you must feel the same.
@Gonegirls12
@Gonegirls12 2 жыл бұрын
@@manuelmoraleda9684 I won’t repeat my long answer, I just gave honest thought to the question you posed. If it was rhetorical, I apologize. Read my response anyway? Perhaps my mind has a more sinister bent then yours. I am a survivor of a violent crime.
@manuelmoraleda9684
@manuelmoraleda9684 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gonegirls12 I presented this scenario of grouping together a lawless killers who can kill each other with impunity out of curiosity and ignorance on my part. To me, the most important part is - What would inhibit or prevent them from killing each other ? Would other inmates punish him for killing another ? Or would he be applauded ? We don't really know.
@debbieanne7962
@debbieanne7962 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting cases. I'm live at the other end of the planet from Maine in Australia but like these local crimes. Quite a shock seeing a 76 year old commit murder, the judge got it all wrong. But then again it's easy to point fingers in hindsight
@morticiaheisenberg9679
@morticiaheisenberg9679 2 жыл бұрын
It is absolutely the Judge's fault. 2 people who know him and know the criminal system told the judge that he was going to this again. He is violent.
@supergooner7581
@supergooner7581 2 жыл бұрын
I get your point ,but he had a history of abuse against women and the only reason he got a light sentence on his last coviction was his age,he still had his mental facilties, physically still fit for his age so why be so lenient which then proved to be fatal for another innocent women.
@sandragraves1177
@sandragraves1177 2 жыл бұрын
None of these people look upset enough.
@ashlynnelson2595
@ashlynnelson2595 10 ай бұрын
Rip to the 18 murdered october 25th 2023 Lewiston Maine. Crazy to see this today when i was watching the press conference
@mzrakarawa722
@mzrakarawa722 2 жыл бұрын
"..age out" my ASS
@raymondkymsuttle
@raymondkymsuttle 2 жыл бұрын
I despair when I hear judges come up with such ludicrous rationales for excusing white male behaviour.
@NoneYa71
@NoneYa71 2 жыл бұрын
That judge should be held responsible
@Vb-fy4sv
@Vb-fy4sv 2 жыл бұрын
Flick was absolutely DELUDED to think his attention would be RECIPROCATED ! What a EVIL MAN taking her life like that AND traumatising her twins that way .he didn’t look bothered in any way did he ? And for the so called JUDGE to say “ nothing in his past to say he would hurt woman “ WHAT ! LESSONS to be LEARNED ONCE AGAIN AFTER A TRAGEDY !!! and the lady who said she saw Joubert with the boy was thinking about “IT “ all WEEKEND! OMG ! I would NEVER get over that, KNOWING , I could have POSSIBLY SAVED HIM …
@crumplezone1
@crumplezone1 2 жыл бұрын
The judge is more dangerous than the criminals that come before him
@melly9037
@melly9037 2 жыл бұрын
You see the arms on that old geeza? Jeez! You can still see his strength an therefore danger an damage he can do....
@butz1893
@butz1893 2 жыл бұрын
In Flick’s case, domestic violence is the telling sign. I’m a survivor. There is no way that my ex would have stopped causing serious damage to women. It was inherent in his nature. He nearly beat his first wife to death, he told me he killed his son, and he nearly killed me and he was actually married to two other women at the time I was with him. I don’t know what happened to them but I know it wasn’t good. Serial domestic abusers need to be kept off of the streets. As the DA said 1/2 the murders were related to domestic abuse. What more do judges want? To be killed themselves?
@daschundloverable
@daschundloverable 11 ай бұрын
A lovers quarrel. Is that woman serious? Especially for that era.
@rapman5791
@rapman5791 Жыл бұрын
The judge who foolishly refused to hold Flick accountable should receive Kimberly’s picture in his mailbox every single day for the rest of his life. There doesn’t have to be any words written. Just a remembrance card with her picture addressed to the judge who , no doubt is enjoying life with his wife and children. Something Kim and her family do not get to enjoy.
@jeffdundon9895
@jeffdundon9895 2 жыл бұрын
It's not rocket science.. a person's punishment should have nothing to do with their age..the last guys' comments were as dumb as the judges sentence..smh
@FUtz-ux9ts
@FUtz-ux9ts 2 жыл бұрын
It's just a phase... He'll grow out of it
@bmac1659
@bmac1659 2 жыл бұрын
A lover’s quarrel??
@alberttrohl5826
@alberttrohl5826 2 жыл бұрын
In the first story, that guy had ghay rage. They are very violent. In the second one, the judge is an idiot and why is he on a bench if he loves letting killers get out to do it again?
@forest5658
@forest5658 2 жыл бұрын
What happens to the judge?? He should feel partly responsible.
@GenerationJonesi
@GenerationJonesi 10 ай бұрын
Old folks are just as capable of dastardly deeds as anyone else. What was that judge thinking?
@kellishostall2583
@kellishostall2583 9 ай бұрын
Age out?! That freaking judge should've had to bring Flick into his own home because he was just a feeble old man. 😤
@williammorris3303
@williammorris3303 2 жыл бұрын
Maine should outlaw assault knives! Assault knives are way to dangerous to allow citizens to possess
@amalgamated-
@amalgamated- 2 жыл бұрын
He’s not sorry because he doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong. He has no sole
@artetface
@artetface 10 ай бұрын
You are NOT SORRY you’re sorry you got caught
@melluques8475
@melluques8475 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the law so soft with criminals like this? Why this continue happening again and again and again🥺
@DinoCism
@DinoCism Жыл бұрын
Listen to his reasoning when the judge said it didn't make "fiscal" sense to keep him in prison. He said the quiet part out loud. Life imprisonment is expensive and a judge is like some shitty corporate manager trying to cut costs. What does he care if he kills again? It won't be in the judge's neighbourhood.
@broeheemed32
@broeheemed32 2 жыл бұрын
John Joubert, the product of another single mother who purposely kept him from his father, moving him out of state. Her spite was only dwarfed by her violent treatment of her child because he "reminded her of her husband". He was the result of her selfishness and misplaced anger. Her hate for her husband ultimately cost four lives.
@jimwerther
@jimwerther 2 жыл бұрын
Good comment
@bevs9995
@bevs9995 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, Joubert's father worked in the restaurant business and he wanted to go live with his Dad, but his dad wouldn't take him. Same with Edmond Kemper's father. HE too wanted to go live with his Dad, but his Dad, who could not return him to his mother because is mother was insistent on it too; immediately threw his *** $$ onto is parents instead; and sent the boy to go live on his paternal grandparents property, where he then killed both of his grandparents when he was 15. Another thing, is that Joubert apparently saw his dad attempt to strangle his mother, which might have been why his mother didn't want the Dad around when he was little. But hey, It's always the women's fault, right?
@jimwerther
@jimwerther 2 жыл бұрын
@@bevs9995 Well, you were doing great until the last sentence. I know this is the YT comment section, but can't comments be just informative and not accusatory?
@bevs9995
@bevs9995 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimwerther talk your bullzhit to the OP
@8luvbug
@8luvbug 5 ай бұрын
You're disgusting for using his mother as an excuse for him murdering little boys.
@loopthetube
@loopthetube 7 ай бұрын
That old man was meaner than a rattlesnake.
@JustAThought155
@JustAThought155 2 жыл бұрын
Did that lady let a repeat offender who had no problem killing young boys convince her that SHE would be a “killer” if he gets the death penalty? Seriously? The death penalty is not merely killing someone. The death penalty is a consequence for brutally killing innocent victims. A free person who chooses to kill should be deterred from making that choice because they could be sentenced to death, because of that choice. So, if anyone is guilty of being killed due to receiving the death penalty, for what they have done, is the offender; they chose that fate based on their choice or choices.
@robinpeppin
@robinpeppin 11 күн бұрын
There are no changes if there is no accountability. That judge was arrogant & abused the awesome powers he held by offhandedly displaying his misogyny by giving this unrepentant monster a slap on the wrist. He should be made to explain his irresponsible decision to her children. This happens too often. Our system fails way too much. Millions of victims are created every year in this country because of biased, incompetent judges. It needs to stop. We need a purging of the bad apples on benches across the nation.
@mariomazzi7894
@mariomazzi7894 2 жыл бұрын
That judge should have his license revoked!
@lynnetrathen4587
@lynnetrathen4587 Жыл бұрын
Why the hell do they let criminals out early for good behaviour 🤬🤬 I don’t care how good they are in prison 🤦🏻‍♀️ keep them there the person/people he killed didn’t get off on good behaviour. THEY HAVE TO STOP LETTING KILLERS OUT 🤬🤬
@wvmountaingirl1976
@wvmountaingirl1976 2 жыл бұрын
That judge needs to be held accountable
@DoobieDeb
@DoobieDeb Күн бұрын
Omg so sad adorable little boy prayers Deepest Condolences to family RIP Angel
@AnitaSouthall
@AnitaSouthall Жыл бұрын
What I don't get is how you could ever categorise a random old guys infatuation with a much younger mother of 2 boys as Domestic violence. Yes his first murder but not the street incident. They were known to each other but certainly never in a relationship. As far the judge who was lenient I'd spit in his face given the opportunity , a coward that unleashed a killer to to it again. Who were against the professional advice of parole officers.
@old1280
@old1280 2 жыл бұрын
That judge should be held accountable for such a poor decisions
@michelrood2966
@michelrood2966 2 жыл бұрын
Subbed
@honorladone8682
@honorladone8682 2 жыл бұрын
Flick should have never been released.
@jamesl9371
@jamesl9371 2 жыл бұрын
A murderer is let out and charged with assault with a knife!! Bingo!! Put him away for good! Forever!!
@jamesplymire5342
@jamesplymire5342 2 жыл бұрын
Even the first guy's voice is creepy.
@encouragingword1172
@encouragingword1172 2 жыл бұрын
Enacting the death penalty does not make people “killers!” It means that law-abiding tax-paying citizens will not pay for the expense of keeping someone alive and maintained physically and medically for years and years for nothing! This only punishes people doing the right things with the burden of caring for a sick dog who not only stabbed little boys in the back, stripped one in the snow and actually bit his victims! This was a warped weirdo who begged for his own life when he had zero compassion for innocent children who cried and pleaded for their own lives. Judgement by capital punishment is justice and it is a deterrent if enacted speedily. As far as the other disgusting old man, letting him out was totally asinine! He should have been put to death the first time. This happens over and over and over again and our prisons are full of people who cause nothing but untold amounts of pain, mental torment and expense to good people who just want to live in peace! Judgement is a mercy to future victims, to past victims families and to society as a whole.
@verityowens9638
@verityowens9638 2 жыл бұрын
This changes a town completely. Kids loose their freedom and doors are locked
@blackdogslivesmatter1568
@blackdogslivesmatter1568 2 жыл бұрын
What was the point of sending him to Maine? What a waste of taxpayers money.
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