The Suffering: How to Fail and Succeed Simultaneously

[@AvalancheReviews]

Alright people! You spoke and GoG heard! The sale is back on!!!!! Check out the link to get The Suffering for a cool 2 bucks! af.gog.com/game/the_suffering?as=1672895661

[@fatjesus1231]

Thank you so much. I've been waiting for this all week.

[@1972lesteryan]

Damn I missed it

[@psxcsomething6114]

@@1972lesteryan yeah same

[@adamrobinson193]

hey man been watching your videos for an lil while I noticed you love horror games have you ever played Darkwood it's one of the best 2D horror games

[@khris____6518]

how do you setup the mod

[@Gggmanlives]

An hour long discussion about The Suffering? Don't mind if I do.

[@jacobleukus6930]

Hell yeah bud, glad to see you watch Avalanche’s videos too. I really hope his channel keeps getting attention, his Stalker videos are probably the most definitive reviews for the series.

[@justinbrandt8415]

My favorite Aussie, what's up G?

[@chuck11duck64]

Hey I know you

[@zerofrmdagame7519]

THE Fucking G MAN!

[@jasonsantos3037]

Is my favorite Australian gamer

[@thelastminuteman7513]

What I liked about the story involving Torque is it never tries to tell you what to think of him. You get the equivalent of a page 4 newspaper article on what happened to his family, the opinions of some of the characters who also read that article and have to decide for yourself what kind of man (or monster) Torque really is. Kind of refreshing to be honest.

[@AvalancheReviews]

Totally agree. It let's you form your own opinion, and that's not a trick used often in games.

[@acheron16]

I really love that the enemies represent different forms of execution. Lethal injection, Beheading, Hanging, Firing Squad...

[@Crowley9]

Makes me really bummed Silent Hill Downpour barely did anything with the police/incarceration/execution aspect of the story.

[@andyperez6105]

Dont forget burning alive, buried alive, drowned, and gassed! 😱😅

[@thousandyoung]

@@Crowley9 No Creativity. Recently some Jewtubers have been praising as if it was some kind of hidden gem when it was always uninspired soulless trash. Silent Hill 2 completely obliterates it.

[@Crowley9]

@@thousandyoung I dread to ask, what do Jews have to do with anything here?

[@polinttalu7102]

@@Crowley9 being greedy

[@FluffyBunny9002]

OMG I loved The Suffering. This was the first game I bought with my own money from my first job (as a dishwasher back in 2004). Loved the story and Easter eggs. Would like to see a remake of this one.

[@AvalancheReviews]

I think my first purchase with money from my first job was the FF7 and RE2 soundtracks. Good damn times.

[@FluffyBunny9002]

@@AvalancheReviews I own both those too! Lol. I got the soundtracks to FFVII and RE2 out of a catalog a long time ago my older brother was subscribed to. Had to walk to the gas station to purchase a money order because I didn't have a checkbook, and I was something like 15 or 16 at the time.

[@aaronsheldon8649]

This was the first “scary” game I manned up on way back when

[@XenoJehuty84]

This game just sucked me in, could not put it down. I think this game and The Thing were my favorite non- Silent Hill and Resident Evil horror titles for the PS2. We need more gems like The Suffering.

[@gamertheories101]

We are brothers of a rare kind you and I this was the first video game my Grandpa bought me that me and him played on the PlayStation 2 when I was a little kid imagine this was your introduction to video games everybody lol 😂

[@j.j.cheesman7141]

Theres also a journal entry from the molotov inmate who talks about seeing Torque transform into a monster in a dream he had. Then he says that he later sees torque when he's awake, and sees him fly into a fit of rage, tearing monsters apart with his bare hands. The implication I got was that Torque is just a Dr. Jekyll analogue without the actual physical transformation. That same inmate shows up again as a narator for the journals in the second game too.

[@Craig_B]

One of the coolest details about this game was the Karma was tracked with how Torque looked and the family picture

[@daoyang223]

Yeah. Better not beast out! Lol I used to use those powers all the time. Never knew there was a good ending

[@googaboogaloo]

I remember picking this game up at a pawn shop in 2008. Thinking it sounded kinda cool. On the ride home I read through the manual, the manual is like a novel. They put so much detail into the story. I always thought that was a cool touch.

[@AvalancheReviews]

I miss when devs used to write a bunch of detailed story in manuals.

[@googaboogaloo]

@@AvalancheReviews for real. Especially when I was a kid. Reading a good manual over and over again on the car ride home from the game store hyped me up so much to play.

[@Tetsuito]

@@AvalancheReviews I miss when games had manuals.

[@Gruntvc]

@Avalanche Reviews, Same, allowed ya to focus on the game itself while playing. Now? Devs drown you in story/exposition and make glorified movies.

[@Starcraftgamer97]

I miss manuals that were basically story add ons or were made in a way to work with the game's world/made to have fun. The manual for the first Rumble Roses game is absolutely hysterical and corny.

[@anotherwaterroute]

I had the PS2 release, truly deserves the RE2 Remake treatment for this one. I appreciate your in-depth analysis into the different versions, I love stuff like that.

[@Ctrekoz]

RE2 Remake treatment will be absolutety terrifying, almost like a psychological weapon xD.

[@anotherwaterroute]

Mama Mia, it'd be a spicy meatball for sure

[@wendigo1619]

The RE2 remake sucked though

[@anotherwaterroute]

@@wendigo1619 agree to disagree, personally I liked it a bit more than the original. I'm biased though, because I never played two growing up, at least not as much as I did 1,3 and 4

[@Disconnect350]

So, you want it to be another generic over the shoulder shooter? no thanks. The game is great as it is. RE2 Remake is overrated.

[@thegoldenwaddledee]

The Suffering is a game I look back on with a lot of nostalgia, I never really played the game a lot myself growing up since I was super young and afraid but it was a game that my older cousin played in front of me. Twisted Metal Black, RE outbreak files, the newly released Dead Rising, Jak 2, ect It takes me back to the time of having my dad drive us to a place called Flick Video, choosing 3 games and having a great weekend. In my mind it was like watching a new dark drama every weekend and having my family to talk about the plot with like a brand new episode of your favorite show.

[@nobodyinterestingyou]

What's great Is that the sequel takes your completed save file and change little things In the intro and In your backstory a bit to fit the ending that you had. Some things and characters are set In stone, of course, but It really did wonders for the story telling and immersion. It made the sequel more personal for both Torque and the player.

[@buddykaiser2380]

Back when this came out one of the things that helped me decide to pick it up was that it takes place in Maryland where I'm from and live. Not a lot of movies and games take place here so it's always cool when something does.

[@Rootbeeroverseer]

Easily one of my favorite games of all time. I played this about every 4-5 years since it came out(along with Drakengard) and I still quote the little witch girls ("Are you afraid(?) of yourself?") And that song on the radio ("You can not move me, American prison!")So much detail, nuance and lore..ugh I can go on forever.

[@Mankey619]

The Suffering is one of Midways underrated classic third person/first person horror game of all time. This is indeed a gem of a game. It has a Clive Baker vibes to it.

[@Autistic_Pixel]

google "Clive Barker Tortured Souls toys" he made 3-4 series of toys that a few look very very much like the monsters in this game.

[@Mankey619]

@@Autistic_Pixel I didn’t know he made a toy series. Must’ve been a real seller to kids.

[@hanayaseth]

I'll wait for the Ties That Bind us all in the conclusion. Great work on this one.

[@AvalancheReviews]

Working on that one right now.

[@AdProfundis666]

@@AvalancheReviews cant wait to see it :) your content is really good

[@jonbourgoin182]

@@AdProfundis666 I'll go bowling with you instead, please just allow him to work on the video.

[@G-UnitHex20]

I beat all endings on the suffering 1 and 2. It takes me back an old memories to play it again. I have heard ps4 and ps5 are updated brought back an old classic games again....

[@Mankey619]

Are both Suffering games available at the PS4 store?

[@roudanskalamir9251]

Fun fact: Rouse mentioned that the first person perspective was not originally planned and technically falls under feature creep

[@Thebossstage1]

The Suffering was such an ambitious series. I'd love to see a third game some day as unlikely as that would be.

[@AvalancheReviews]

I'd back a kickstarter like that in a heart beat.

[@Gruntvc]

Same, but I'd like to see sequels to Psi Ops The Mindgate Conspiracy and Area 51 too. Area 51 Blacksite does not count...

[@guntherfrager1068]

This was an awesome and criminally underappreciated franchise. The lore was superb, everything had a meaning and somewhat, in a way, you feel sorry for the monsters (at least that was my case). True, the story of Torque its not very well told in the first game but it is in the second one. But you can collect bits and pieces from his family "apparitions" The game is a true work of art that sadly it was eaten along many others by the big companies that make repetitive games because "it sells". And maybe it's a good thing that it won't get a remaster.

[@toxics.]

This game was killer on PS2! Ties That Bind will always be one of my favorite horror games! Would love to see you cover the Time Splitters series!

[@SatansLeadGuitarist]

I loved this game back when I played it on the OG Xbox. I remember a buddy and I staying up all night to play it and it scared the shit out of us at the time. It was back when I first started to get in to horror games and I loved the Idea of the enemies being manifestations of execution methods. You've definitely convinced me to give it a replay for nostalgia.

[@spliffyrodgers4266]

I remember getting the suffering as a kid I picked it out because I popped my fingers in the school gate a few days before and the cover art reminded me of how my hand looked so I figured it was a sign id like the game I still love it about 18 years later 14:46 honestly I prefer when storys need to be piced together than told outright (if its not incoherent) alot of game storys just feel like constant exposition dump and it makes them kind of uninteresting to me Im usually more interested in what a story's saying than the straight up narrative gives alot more room to think about your own interpretation of the story

[@cheatsykoopa98]

its so good to see someone talking about this game. I liked it a lot as a teenager something about torque's design goes do hard, I think its the fact that hes barefoot and you get covered in blood most of the game. it feels like what the devil may cry reboot was attempting and failed spetacularly, at least presentation wise

[@AE1OU]

Looking forward to the Suffering 2's in-depth review. I myself never finished the game because the copy I got always freezes after you reach the mainland, at the interrogative room. I ended up returning the copy and changing for a different game lol

[@NerdySatyr]

Man absolutely loved this game, learning about the island and the characters on it was such a blast and legit, some of the coolest enemy designs of the time

[@TheTonyRedgrave]

"Torque's post-nut clarity" is an amazing line 😂😂😂

[@frznfido]

26:54 The fucking part with the witches in the tunnel. I absolutely love this game. Loved how you can read little document entries on the monsters and places you've explored. Also loved how (most?) all the monsters were manifested versions of different execution types.

[@necromorph238]

It's really cool to see this game still getting love. The Suffering is sick!

[@AvalancheReviews]

It sure as hell is!

[@davewilder3979]

One of the greatest games I’ve ever played. Absolutely adore this. The Xbox version in particular looks and sounds excellent. The sound design is really impressive to listen to with a surround setup. Loved the sequel also.

[@Kaynadian1337]

Played this game, and sequel back on the PS2 at release. Loved every moment, such an unknown gem that did many things that would be popular years later. Found it and grabbed it on GOG ages ago and have been dying to play through it on stream. Big part of the reason I'm a fan of GOG and I legit cannot like this video enough. I also wanted to mention, in case I missed it and I'll have to fact check but Hermes/Horace and Lovejoy histories are also all intertwined. Its also worth noting the sequel quite literally starts off from where the first leaves off, answers some of the questions you had in the video and even picks up from your previous morality affecting even the opening of said sequel. And this is before Mass Effect used that to literally hype their pitch up to get made. Like I said, underrated gem so ahead of its time

[@ninja011]

@Avalanche Reviews Just a bit of little-known info. In Maryland, The Department of Corrections, up until the mid-'80s, was issuing old police Thompsons for prison armories. So them using Tommy Guns is not that out of place.

[@shagohad3]

The Suffering is one of my favorite horror games of all time. I have so many fond memories of pre-teen me playing this at night. Good times.

[@NIGHTMARECRIPT]

Thank you for covering this amazing underrated survival Horror game! This was an amazing and well put together video. I played through this game and it's sequel a few years ago and had an absolute blast. You should definitely cover the sequel next.

[@User_Unknown86]

16:35 That wasn't his inner demon. It was one of the Shiv monsters that cut the bars.

[@custodialartist4665]

Absolutely love the suffering series. A remaster or remake would be amazing if done correctly. I forgot who owns the rights now.

[@amanchoosesaslaveobeys6510]

WB own the rights they bought it a while back

[@custodialartist4665]

@@amanchoosesaslaveobeys6510 i knew it was WB thanks for that. Hopefully with the all the remakes and remasters being done its considered but Hopefully they don't give it too a 3rd party developer

[@amanchoosesaslaveobeys6510]

@@custodialartist4665 well if they do either remake remaster or continue the series they should give it to. monolith studios due to their track record they would be a good studio to handle it being the creators of (avp 2 condemned fear 1 and 2 and middle earth games the new ones. seeing as how they are now a wb studio or rocksteady as for 3rd party I'm not sure who could try handle it that i can think of. as the current video game environment is terrible with even AAA studio messing things up or everything being a live service and or heavily monetized imo

[@jameslilly3750]

@@amanchoosesaslaveobeys6510 did you say" the suffering: battleroyale "

[@amanchoosesaslaveobeys6510]

@@jameslilly3750 i never mentioned anything about battleroyal... besides that is pure cancer battleroyal games

[@HooDooBrown]

The Suffering was a great experience, interesting way to tell a story and leave it up to the viewer.

[@jgarling]

Hooray! You did the game I was requesting! I feel like this one was just for me and (judging from the people I talk to about it) the 20 other people who played this game.

[@tomalexander4327]

Thanks for mentioning Grim Beard. He's one of the best gaming KZbinrs along with Probably Jacob.

[@rekware9320]

I played this one back in the day during a rainy winter. Really enjoyed it. Great game.

[@ianrotten4453]

There's a big reason why I've kept my physical copies of both 1 & 2.

[@TheGabberman9000]

53:40 Dude what are you talking about? The Ps2 is the best selling console of all time. Of course most people got it.

[@lordravenblade]

I just figured the tommy guns were supposed to be a hint that the island was also involved in bootlegging or something, and when everything goes to hell the guards decided to upgrade from their pistols.

[@AvalancheReviews]

Hmmm I guess there's a bit of a connection there.

[@rxblackpill]

I remember finding this game back in like 2009 on a demo site or some pc gaming site on my old windows xp computer. Probably one of the first horror games I played that really spooked me. The designs of the creatures were terrifying to me back then, and although they're a bit less frightening and I had no frame of reference to compare the game giving you a bountiful amount of ammo to, it was always a game that stood out to me, and I loved the grungy feel of the environment. I would always play 30 minutes here or there before I would get scared and quit haha. I managed to get through about half of the game that way, but I really have been meaning to give it a playthrough again. I've played a few horror and horror adjacent games, but I've never really jumped into the genre too far. Compared to horror and survival horror games today, this might not hold up, but I really have a nostalgia for it and it still is definitely something that I would put high up on a tier list.

[@rodneyabrett]

I was just playing this recently on my PS2. Still love it. I like the sequel too.

[@EugenioGatica]

I spended so many weekends playing this one on my old ps2, I found it when I literally played all survivor horrors available at the time, hoping for the sequel review my guy! Thanks for the hard work!

[@McMeatBag]

I hope you'll eventually tackle my favorite game that takes place in a prison, Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay. That was one of those games that felt truly next gen on Xbox. It came out on PC, but unfortunately you can no longer buy it from any digital store. You also need a patch to get around the stupid defunct DRM

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

That game was a *revelation* to me Utterly incredible

[@dkrmedia4019]

Always loved this game and felt it never got the praise it deserved. The lore behind it was always extremely haunting and interesting. I'm surprised it never got a reboot or a sequel. Would have been great material for a movie adaptation as well.

[@boomerkobold3943]

There was apparently a movie in the works, but it got canned.

[@caradinegeorge]

After buying a PC in 2003 (and it wasn't cheap at all), I was completely bummed when I found out that my new shiny Geforce4 MX 440 64Mb couldn't handle The Suffering. It took a couple of years, and a large sum invested in a new ATI Radeon 256 Mb, before I could play it. I totally agree, you should go for the PS2 version, for the sole fact that it was the first to the party, and that's the version most people played back then. If you want to experience the same feeling that you might have had originally, go for PS2. But if you want just to play it and nothing more, without the hassle of grabbing a PS2 console and/or another game shelved around, grab the GOG one. Great video, as always, much respect!

[@El_Monsoon]

Definitely in the top 5 of my life. I wouldn't be upset to get a reboot if not a remaster one day

[@Spit1990]

I just want both The Suffering titles, Area 51 and Psi-Ops in a Midway Mid-00's shooter collection.

[@blitzkrieg2928]

Great to see the game is more popular than I thought :)

[@jjenk911]

First off, congratulations on your move to Japan. Hopefully everything went smoothly. Second, The Suffering is a underrated horror game from Midway.

[@emcee7777]

I get a weird mix of Max Payne 1 and Bioshock vibes from The Suffering, which sounds like a pretty sweet mix for a game to me. They should bring this series back for a remake, reboot or sequel.

[@lunarlunacy4209]

For months I been looking for a retrospective on this series and now you’ve made one. Can’t wait to dive into this video.

[@wdcain1]

One thing I loved was how much personality Torque has despite being a silent protagonist. His bulkier frame, hunched posture, and slightly ape-like head conveys a different story if your going down an evil or good path: The former makes him feel like a brutal animal while the latter a hurt child.

[@sodafueled277]

Glad to see my boy Grim Beard getting some exposure. His channel is criminally small for the effort that goes into each and every one of his videos.

[@AvalancheReviews]

Couldn't agree more. The dude should have triple the subs he has now.

[@koibitothescrublord4977]

I honestly wouldn't mind a remake or hell even a reboot of the suffering. Underrated game for sure.

[@morguewalker11]

I would sell my soul for this ...lol

[@Disconnect350]

I just loved the atmosphere and the gameplay of this game along with enemies being based on execution methods, plus all the psychological stuff along with Torque's morality system. I love this game for what it is, not every horror game back in PS2 era needed to be a Resident Evil or Silent Hill clone. Also, I absolutely loved the lore and the background that this game gave to it's monsters and the prison. Regarding the story, Souls games get praise for their method of story-telling yet The Suffering is criticized, I find that odd. I just miss these times, when most developers were trying to be original, now it's all remakes and remasters. When horror games were fun instead of being walking simulators.

[@eastcoasteric]

Friggin loved this game when it came out. It was mighty intense with its pacing, atmosphere and gameplay. It feels like a precursor to Dead Space in a way. Mainly with how intense the moments of horror and action feel when combined.

[@MideonProductions]

This is one of those games i miss so much. It's such a special atmosphere like Manhunt or Condamned.

[@vero0992]

Loved this game! Really cool monsters. Haven't played in like 15 years but I still think about the mainliners and other monsters based off executions. Still feels creative, very cool game.

[@I_am_a_human_not_a_commodity]

15:09 Hey, that's John Patrick Lowrie! He's the guy that did the voice acting for the male citizens in Half-Life 2. :D

[@AvalancheReviews]

Really?! That's awesome!

[@SirAlienGuy]

I swear I was about to comment how much it sounded like him! He also voices sniper from tf2

[@Deltarr777]

Another awesome review! I have fond memories of this game, playing it on my Xbox. Thanks for this nostalgia trip.

[@troublemaker6497]

A month ago I completed The Suffering on PS2 and to be honest, the game did not slow down as much as the frames in this video. The game slowed down quite noticeably, but still, in my opinion, the FPS did not reach the line of 10 frames. But the thing may be that I had a pirated version of the game on PS2 with Russian subtitles and voice acting. In addition, my PS2 is from a Slim revision, or rather it was from the latest version of consoles, it was bought in 2009 new, not used. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's not uncommon for different versions of the same console to have minor differences in performance.

[@not9387]

Dude getting this game to run on modern systems has, at least for me, been a journey and I'm still not sure where I messed up but I'll get it working cause back when I played this on the Xbox I loved it and want to play this and it's sequel again. Glad to see you cover it Avalanche.

[@ZeroStako]

I adore this game. Really solid horror! I hope you do one on the second one as well!

[@ShireDB]

Fantastic review as always my dude. I was gonna finally grab this since it's supposed to be on sale, but it doesn't look like GOG has changed the price yet so I'll have to keep an eye on it until it drops. Looking forward to the next one!

[@dayman4152]

One of my favorite games ever. Just found this channel and I love love love the long videos

[@freddysombrero4742]

Okay, this was recommended by KZbin and now I want to play this game and watch more of your videos. Really good job with this!

[@damianlegion8455]

13:24 I like that Torque doesn't speak nor talk because in that way I could identify with HIM. Its kind of awesome when you can play with a character which you can relate on. Torque just fix perfectly for this game. Actually, the visions change depending of your decisions in game. 14:33 - 29:58 Funny, because this is what made the Dark Souls (Elder Ring) a 10/10.

[@Vonboon11dy]

One of my favorites, excited to hear you cover it.

[@rustyshackleford3401]

Get this man and his silky voice a million subs pronto

[@Bojack1135]

I remember playing it as a runt myself. Now ive got it set up in emuvr so i can go back to that time. Glad to see it get some much needed love

[@revivemebrogames]

My dude! Your reviews lately have been FIRE!!! I got this game a while back on PC and was astounded (and terrified) of the art direction. Made me wish I played it on the ps2 back in the day. Love your channel, love your reviews! 👏👏👏

[@AvalancheReviews]

Thanks so much homie!!

[@homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971]

Lol homeboy wasn't smoking weed dude, that was an opium pipe straight up.

[@chrisrichard5310]

I literally just repurchased this and replayed it when an OG Xbox fell into my lap. I absolutely love this series and wish it would come back

[@chrisboyd4739]

Loved these 2 games back in the day watching your videos brings back good memories

[@ostrichlord9097]

I was in CEX with a classmate a couple weeks ago looking at old games. He doesn't play games and is 40 so was pretty outta the loop, but out of all the games we found, he went out of his way to grab and show me this. Despite not being a gamer, apparently this title had sat with him over the years.

[@peronafanman]

I've seen some of your vids before but I think this one has finally convinced me to subscribe.

[@igodreamer7096]

Now, let's go take a trip to The Suffering - Ties That Bind! ;D

[@AvalancheReviews]

Soon....... Soon

[@Estorium]

Wow what amazing timing. I just picked this up cheap today for PS2 and was going to start playing tonight for the first time.

[@JohnYourube]

This series really needs a revival it still has so much potential

[@John.Diaper]

You love this one sector of the genre because survival horror gives us the ability to fight back and defend ourselves while experiencing insurmountable odds in a unreal, terrifying, unthinkable situation.

[@truemisto]

gog does honorable work, keeping certain old games available and hopefully functional

[@thelastminuteman7513]

I bought The Suffering and F.E.A.R at the same time with my birthday money back when they came out. Did not regret either one.

[@AvalancheReviews]

What a cool time to be playing video games! We were spoiled with choices.

[@damiancrowley569]

Your reviews are so well written and thoughtful. That's why I love this channel

[@gingerbeargames]

Thanks for the port comparisons, really informative. I'm sadly very sensitive to frame rate and motion blur so basically locked to PC but man do I love the look of older games, especially on a crt.

[@StoneKnight1]

great video, i love how informative it is and time stamps help a lot to navigate

[@psoulocybin]

I have always wanted to play this series back in the day, I had some game on PS2 that had the demo for The Suffering 2 and just loved the little bit I got to play. Honestly I completely forgot the title's name until recent years. Btw I love the channel make my guy!

[@tgamer9159]

Your analysis and review of this game made me like it more than I already did

[@Abyss3223]

I enjoy how in the sequel we actually get someones prospective of Toques beast mode, saying it literally is just him tearing enemies apart with his bare hands in a fit of extreme rage.

[@realstreetjesus1953]

I remember watching my neighbor play this game on his xbox when I was about 6-7 years old and thinking it was the most hardcore and violent game ever, brings back a lot of nostalgia.

[@landonhagan450]

Imagine going back in time to tell someone from the height of the PS2's dominance that someday most people wouldn't own a PS2. It's obvious in retrospect, but back then it'd be like telling them video games would stop existing.

[@robertforster8984]

I wasn’t using a small crt with a component connection. It was a RF connection.

[@5avagegame567]

I convinced my religious aunt to buy this game for me when it released and just told her it was a game about redemption. I wasn't wrong... Lol

[@SpecterVonBaren]

Funny thing with that CO in the attic; it seems like what he chose to do there also gave him some amount of invisibility to the demonspawn running around. Seems like fear or something like it is what allows the demons to sniff people out and if you just chill then they're less likely to find you.

[@morguewalker11]

YES YES YES!!! THIS GAME WAS MY CHILDHOOD....AND NO ONE EVER TALKS ABOUT IT!!! THANK YOU!!!!

[@ampherumthisfur2017]

Torque is a legend that lives and breathes off the human condition and deserves so much more love

[@fearandwine]

The Suffering is one of, if not the most underrated horror game ever! It had such an original story with creative enemies and addictive gameplay. It ends (depending on how you play) with a pretty satisfying, sad or brutal climax.... ....Then Ties that Bind came out....

[@tomkirkwood2329]

Loved these games, still do. Something interesting, Torque after taking his shoes off after getting in to his cell never puts them back on, and goes through the 1st (and 2nd i think) barefoot.