The Switch Sports Problem Nobody Talks About

[@starpower1884]

In my opinion the only game that gets a pass on free updates is Splatoon, because it's been doing the free updates thing since the first game. And the base game already is good, it doesn't feel empty like the others. Plus its not something like. "We will add this game mode that should have been in the game at launch in now." For Splatoon its more like. "We're just gonna add some new maps and weapons" while also we get new splatfests themes and clothing. And in Splatoon3 we'll be getting special salmon run events.

[@MoobOgler]

Thank you they haven’t withheld pre-existing content to release later (except for maps which there are already 12 so…) they keep adding to what they’ve already made hell they don’t even hardly get rid of characters so many old characters have been repurposed like crusty Sean, harmony, the squid sisters, ex captain cuddle fish, agent 3 and off the hook is going to be in the up coming paid DLC the studio behind animal crossing and splatoon are the only people in Nintendo to do free DLC correctly to keep the games ever changing without withholding content that should be in the games on release

[@mythosinfinite6736]

The model of continuous online updates isn't a bad thing, it just shouldn't replace an actually finished game at launch. Switch Sports is a bad example of a service game, and Splatoon is a great example.

[@ag3ntverse875]

plus the tweaks and bug fixes and the dang fixes with the overpowered weapons

[@Jdudec367]

what about the Mario Maker games?

[@starpower1884]

@@Jdudec367 we have only got two of those and even then it's the same game they just ported it to the switch with some new features. Same Menu layout, Same ui, same everything.

[@annaisntcool]

i am irrationally pissed off that every individual mii/character has to unlock cosmetics separately. why can’t i grind for cosmetics and then let my grandma’s mii wear them?

[@wingy6060]

Yeah that is absolute BS

[@Schnort]

At least make a trading system so you can share Edit: could even make an economy out of it like tf2, enticing people to put shitloads of time into the game

[@NintendoHero]

At first I really liked the incentive to play more with the weekly items, but that quickly wore off and I'm very sick of it. It's honestly insane how long it takes to earn all the rewards per week. I've gotten almost all the items since launch and I have over 45 hours in this dumb game. And that's doing the bare minimum for every week. Switch Sports isn't even about the sports anymore since all I do is grind bowling for points. It's about the live service item collecting which really sucks. The king Wii Sports Resort doesn't even need limited time items to keep me invested because the core gameplay and content is actually worthwhile.

[@voyan38]

If only this game was capable of intrinsic motivation like it's older brothers rather than a ~ 3 hour mandatory bowling grind every Wednesday night to get all 12 items.

[@corpsenymph4644]

@@voyan38 I don’t know whether to think this drives more players towards playing or drives them away from playing, kinda like a double edged sword but slightly sharper on one end bc SS looks and sounds like a chore .-.

[@JackOfRivia20]

Bruh i have 90 hours put into it😭

[@Aspen282]

Couldn’t have put it better myself

[@Your-Average-Nerd]

I have to play this knock off because my Wii broke, rest in pieces Wii Oh and we literally can’t find the disk so it might still be in the Wii ; - ;

[@salsamonkey65]

I despise any kind of "login rewards", but especially in a paid game. Glad I didn't buy this game, maybe I will a couple years on when the game is finished.

[@kaphizmey6229]

first of all, don’t ever buy it; even when it does get “finished,” it will have been built off a flimsy foundation that doesn’t have nearly the same impact as its predecessors. second, i don’t think login rewards are the worst thing in the world… but voyan still makes some good points about how a system like that can take advantage of the user base

[@LlamaLogic]

What's wrong with log in rewards?

[@doublinx2]

Exploiting fomo, asking the user to invest significant amounts of time or miss out on something they might maybe want

[@salsamonkey65]

@@doublinx2 this

[@Jdudec367]

@@kaphizmey6229 You sure? How doesn't it have the same impact as its predecessors?

[@thenintendnub64]

I despise the login bonus shtick. I love customizing characters in my video games! And the idea that if you don't play consistently you WILL miss out on cosmetic items and lord only knows when they'll come back (if at all) just infuriates me. If there was a way to catch up on previous collections I wouldn't have a problem here.

[@AimbotGaming412]

Ok witch whould you rather a fun gameplay experience or a cloveing game

[@phoenixmorphix]

@@AimbotGaming412 A good game that lets you have access to everything, without a subscription service, and does not lock you out of majority of the experience even though you paid $40 for it. ☺️ I bought the game! I can call it out.

[@phoenixmorphix]

It is not worth $40 bucks, imo. There’s really nothing to validate it’s cost.

[@minikipp8549]

the stuff should be progression based not daily login based imo but then that's not how you force people to keep playing

[@thenintendnub64]

@@phoenixmorphix Exactly!

[@DarthRaichu]

I really do hate how the costumes are just a guise for lack of content. The game is fun but there really isn’t enough for a game with Nintendo’s “seal of quality.” I really hope they eventually add another sport after they add golf

[@awesomebagel9806]

it really annoyed me that Tennis and Badminton were both launch games, they’re basically the same or well, personally to me they feel the same. I feel like basketball or golf or really any game could have replaced one of them I’m hoping they’ll add tons of sports as time goes by. As shown in the video, although I never played it, wii sports had twelve sports? and there’s a lot of features they can add to the game outside of the sports games, but I also really hope that they will add some sports. It doesn’t even have to be realistic sports, it’s a video game. I feel like they could come up with some pretty cool little games and as it shows in bowling, I think the idea of a sports battle royale would be cool. I know the battle royale genre is very overused today, but I think it would be so cool to participate in an olympics-type gamemode where you have to be the best in all of the games

[@sebastianescalante5618]

@@awesomebagel9806 Resort had 12, OG Wii Sports had 5

[@iceman3317]

@@awesomebagel9806 the tips suggest there is a lot in the world we don't currently have which is annoying. There are areas on the map set up that could easily hold new sports, so I am hoping for this as well.

[@S0ME_GUY]

I think people forget how lacking the og wii sports was

[@RETAIN3R_347]

@@S0ME_GUY nah, despite it lacking all the extra shit, it still was able to hold up with its simplistic, but fun sports.

[@ika32]

I'm glad Splatoon 3 isn't doing this. They will have updates after the game releases, but they are only a DLC (which never comes out right with the game), a rank (x rank, which is really hard to get so it would take a while before people could even use it), and some more maps, but other than that the full game will be available at launch. Also sometimes having updates after prevent the developers from rushing the game and making it really bad to keep to a certain release date.

[@MoobOgler]

Yah the only thing they are withholding are maps but that’s probably to give more time to strategize with the current maps (which there will be 12 at launch which is plenty) and the old maps are also being reshaped, retextured, and readjusted. they aren’t taking anything away from the the game they just keep adding to it which is amazing

[@dragonweirdocreap]

They will probably add a few new weapons and maybe a map or two aside from the ones teased. But even without that it's a complete game and this stuff isn't fixing a lack of content, it's kinda bonus.

[@abra_escaped]

Yep. At launch we get 12 maps, turf war, ranked, salmon run, and every weapon from Splatoon 2 (not including variations). Then every 3 months we get a big drop of new clothes and weapons, plus we're getting x rank, maps, and "large scale dlc" at some point

[@iceman3317]

They will continue to add new outfits and maps as we get updates. Splatoon 2 had 4 major updates. And the small amount of time I played it, they were adding new weapons and clothing through its life. Which isn't a bad thing. It keeps things fresh. And we don't have to spend hours usually for new stuff.

[@wutadam]

*cough* catalogs

[@abra_escaped]

I'm going to be the millionth person to say Splatoon is a good example of the free update model. The first game felt complete enough at launch, but they constantly updated the game with new weapon types that completely carry over to the next game. They then did the same thing with Splatoon 2 and again with 3. That makes it seem almost like one nonstop game, with each numbered entry being a change to larger things like a different story and plaza and specials and whatnot, while the constant trickle of weapons, stages, and splatfests continues just as it has for the last 6-7 years

[@kaphizmey6229]

that sounds somewhat adjacent to the model of games like apex legends, which has a big update in the form of a new season with more weapons, characters, altered stages and even an optional visual novel-esque story expanding on the lore of its universe. apex does have some of the problems voyan mentions like login rewards and paywalls for some items (even if said items are completely optional), but overall it switches things up regularly while keeping the core gameplay mechanics unaltered

[@hypernova_119]

I need that "I'm not addicted to Switch Sports, it fucking sucks" hoodie.

[@juliannocartagena2007]

Why?

[@hypernova_119]

@@juliannocartagena2007 Because I'm not addicted to Switch Sports, it fucking sucks.

[@luigifan1295]

I'm was a sucker for bowling in Wii Sports, and that has carried over to Switch Sports, so when I found out your bowling ball could have cosmetic changes too, I was so excited. Then the dread of having to bowl online constantly because it's the only game that gives the most points with controls I still don't understand just stopped me from playing altogether. Really wish there was another way to get cosmetics that didn't require me paying $20 a year. Not only that but the fact the unlock is randomized, I just wanna choose the bowling ball reskin first.

[@vismattress5760]

20$ a year is nothing

[@LiterallyAllNamesAreTaken]

@@vismattress5760 it is considering the game isn’t free. Nintendo makes money from people buying the games, theres no need to try make more. I don’t own a switch myself and I’m currently using videos like these to make a decision on which game I should buy when I get the console. I still might buy this one in the future but I’m glad I was informed beforehand that there’s a SUBSCRIPTION if I wanted to play online. even if its “only” 20 *a year* thats still thousands of players making payments up to 20-30 at once. god forbid you play the game for more than just 1 year. you would’ve easily paid more for online than you did for the whole game. and then naturally you’re gonna have players that forget to cancel their subscription. kaching kaching thats a lot of money for something that could’ve been free considering idk, all the games we’ve had ever that have included online gameplay.

[@Nichslvl]

Honestly though, I'm kinda glad I didn't end up buying the game, I think I would've been comparing it too much to its predecessors.

[@kaphizmey6229]

same, honestly i’m just glad i didn’t buy any of (and consequently support) the “free update” games nintendo has dropped - mario golf, new horizons, mario strikers, switch sports (and probably more that i’m forgetting at the moment lol). nintendo’s consumer base needs to stop supporting these types of games, they’re not even mainline games to a big franchise like kirby or pokemon

[@purr4829]

@@kaphizmey6229 glad i’m not buying it either 😭 imma buy splatoon 3 and botw2

[@phoenixmorphix]

@@purr4829 I bought it day one and stopped playing like 2-3 months later. You HAVE to have Nintendo switch online. If you don’t, you can’t really customize your avatar and are only able to play with CPU’s. Did I mention that some items become unavailable after a month? This game should’ve been live service instead of $40. Waste of money.

[@crazycockatoo5816]

​@@kaphizmey6229 Oh don't worry, they pulled that crap with a mainline Pokemon game where they remove some of the Pokemon in the Pokedex (and mind you Ultra Sun and Moon managed to cram every single one ever made onto a 4GB 3DS cartridge) and lock some of them behind a paywall that costs about half of what a new copy would retail for. And somehow that became the bestselling game in the entire franchise.

[@kaphizmey6229]

@@crazycockatoo5816 i guarantee you the _only_ reason it outsold its predecessors was because it was on the switch

[@awesomebagel9806]

I think a concept they could do is every december, since it’s the holidays, they could be like “okay, you can choose anything you didn’t unlock before and work towards unlocking it” I just bought the game and already have almost everything out of the three item sets given to me. It sucks that I missed out on a lot of the cool cosmetic items. I feel like instead of randomly allowing them to re-appear in the weekly rotation (since that would annoy people who already have the set and would rather have a new weekly collection to add to their inventory) like I said, they could just have the whole month of december, or any month really, for the player to be able to unlock some of the packs they missed like “okay, no new item sets this month, but you can get all of the item sets you missed” like it could either be all of the item sets of all time every december, or just the one’s for that year, but still, I think if they just randomly let some of the sets reappear, that would just annoy some people who might rely on getting new clothes every week

[@corpsenymph4644]

That would be REALLY neat. Or you could have milestones and once you reach it you get a set of your choice, maybe even for different types of sports as you play it more and more and get better at them.

[@bedtimesnacks7510]

I was so excited hearing that a new sports game was coming out. Literally Wii Sports was my childhood, and I still play it to this day. The community has asked over and over for a new sports game to come out and it finally did! But... They pulled a "modern Nintendo" move and ruined it. It really sucks to see something that we've been waiting for for years to end up like this. I feel like there is no future for sports games anymore, and that's really sad to say. I'll always continue to love Wii Sports, but I think my time of excitement for a new sports game to come out is over, I give up on Nintendo's ability of creating something that was thoughtful and not just pushed out for quick money. I shouldn't just say bad things though, the sports themselves are alright, I expected the joycons to be a bit clunky, but they turned out pretty well. The amount of sports is a joke though.

[@RandomUser11170]

I didn't even know that this was a feature, but yeah, putting login rewards for a paid game is extremely messed up

[@playdoob]

honestly dude don't feel bad voicing negativity/criticism on ur channel... i feel like these things need to be said. if u change the mind of even one person to buy into games with the whole "free update" model, u made a difference. sux that it has to be this way tho

[@starcrosspolaris]

it's funny you should make a video about Switch Sports, I bought it for 20 bucks a couple weeks ago and I bought it for the sole purpose of playing with my siblings and friends, just like the other entries in the series (I'm still bitter that they didn't call it Wii Sports Switch) and I'd only watch the first trailer during a Direct so I just thought it was Wii Sports 1080p with zoomers ans miis. Word cannot put into words how I felt as I was customizing my character and that I realized there was going to be cosmetics involved... You summarized it pretty well here. One last thing, the Switch's having a great run with plethora of fun and great games but looking at this AAA priced Switch Sports release 5 years in, then looking back at "tech demo party game" AAA priced 1, 2, Switch ; I can't help but feel nostalgic about Wii Sports and Resort, those games were free, extremely fun even to casual or non gamers and free of gentrification. NB: Football is way too convoluted to be played with younglings or parents, Volley feels like a turn based RPG with only 3 options and why is it that if you fall playing Badminton you stay on the ground like you had an aneurysm?

[@MoobOgler]

TLDR my adhd is horrible but I admire the passion keep it up

[@starcrosspolaris]

@@MoobOgler and what do you think made me write such a chonker?

[@simmons1377]

Wii Sports Resort didn't release on the Wii U though, it came out 3 years before the Wii U so that wouldn't make any sense

[@starcrosspolaris]

@@simmons1377 yeah I kinda forgor

[@simmons1377]

@@starcrosspolarisYeah fair enough

[@andrescube64]

The current update that got me excited is when Matt and the other champions were added so everyone can face them

[@juliannocartagena2007]

To be honest it was pretty unexpected but it was awesome nonetheless.

[@wutadam]

I personally liked the game and I'm still having fun with it every week. I do agree that cosmetics shouldn't be time-locked and should remain available once added. Hopefully they eventually add free-roam and currency so you can buy items from shops that don't change out their stock.

[@juliannocartagena2007]

It’s about time I found someone with an opinion similar to mine.

[@vismattress5760]

They rotate

[@bjorn9595]

I'm playing Animal Crossing (GC) right now! Are you proud of me dad?

[@anastasiagirl1342]

I hate that my brother couldn’t play online with me. He doesn’t play often and therefore didn’t get Nintendo Online. Because of this, if he wants to play, we have to play offline and I loose out on potential clothing… it’s infuriating

[@chantellethecool1]

You can play together online

[@anastasiagirl1342]

@@chantellethecool1 how? I tried recently and it wouldn’t

[@P_araps]

@@anastasiagirl1342 i think you'd have to add him as a friend on your switch

[@Demeech]

I will say, it's kinda fascinating how Nintendo botched something as basic as Wii Sports so badly.

[@juliannocartagena2007]

GAAAAAHHH!😨

[@fangier0]

Look, a free update hater!

[@crazycockatoo5816]

I know right? How much you want to bet that if they make Nintendogs for Switch, they will release it with only 5 breeds of Dogs (compared to 27 in Nintendogs + Cats), 1 breed of cat, and no other animals, it only lets you have one pet in your house at a time, and the only tournament you can participate in is the Disc Competition (from the 3 types of tournaments you can play through in both Nintendogs and Nintendogs + Cats) , and they give you the rest via free updates. Now if they even DARED to do that, I would simply stop buying first-hand copies of their products.

[@juliannocartagena2007]

@@fangier0 And the worst of them all.

[@R0S1ED]

The fact that I have to pay $200-$300 just to get something to play it on, then $50-$60 to actually buy and play the game, THEN $8 TO PLAY WITH MY FRIENDS ONLINE,,, JUST FOR THE GAME TO BE UNFINSHED??? (ACNH, Switch Sports, any other franchise game that has DLC's or the story line is not apparent)

[@princesspixel3151]

And the worst part is… when that system “retires” you can’t just get a fresh new system when your previous one breaks! You have to pay even more of a fortune just to get a replacement, and often gamble on whether the purchased system still works or not! AND you can’t just send the broken systems to Nintendo! You have to rely on a local shop to do the fixing, especially when people have trust issues with any shops with that capability!

[@TheGoblinsWithin]

It's sad watching nintendo go down this path and tbh i kind of miss when nintendo was struggling to survive during the wii u/3ds era

[@GELTONZ]

Oh I'm with you on this one. I love Chambara. Played the demo and couldn't wait for the game so hard I bought the Japanese version digitally so I could have it a few hours early. Love the Sportsmates and couldn't wait to customize mine...only to get the game and there were no good customization items at launch. Took weeks for okay ones to show up. Been FORCING myself to poke my head in every week and it sucks. I sat there wondering WHY Nintendo did it like this and I finally figured it out: They didn't have enough items because the game was unfinished. So they made the slowest unlock system to drip feed the items in order to streach it out. Someone datamined the game and sure enough, the base cart contained EXACTLY enough items to last us until this recent leg strap update and now they finally added another 3 months of clothes. IF all the clothes on the cart were available in a shop at launch? The shop would look paltry. So they have to drip feed us to distract us from the lack of items. But because of this, a game I WAS enjoying has turned into a chore and I hate it. Good job Nintendo.

[@Bellyofthebeast6]

I feel this so much. I really want this game to be good and I'm super looking forward to the golf update because I LOVE golf video games. The sports we have are fun, but the amount of points required for those outfits means you're bound to get sick of the same few sports over and over again. I don't want to miss out on those outfits but it does feel like a chore now and gets less fun each week. And I hate how you need to get EVERYTHING in order to get the best items. Why can't we just earn points and then use them to purchase what we actually WANT? The most frustrating part is that this game could be so good but they definitely took some missteps. Although I will say I think its shortcomings are the result of the gaming industry as a whole now rather than just the game itself. Free updates like this are becoming more and more common.

[@MegaU]

Hahaha in entirely the same boat, but never stopped... been slaved weekly since launch lmao. Used to play so much I was kept up without trying, but now I only play every Tuesday/Wednesday to get the one collection about to leave It got so bad a couple weeks ago I stayed up to 3am just playing in tabletop on the Thursday for the set, I do like the game but it is disappointing how it only slightly has more than Wii Sports yet half of Resort's content. Great video, especially because I entirely relate lmao Really hope they would release two sports when golf comes out, as it'll suck waiting even longer for something like wakeboarding. The lack of too interesting sports other than bowling, chambara and maybe tennis(?) just makes it even more tedious!! Wish you got more points from each game, it's tiring playing for ~2-3 hours as I just won't let myself miss anything lmao

[@SunnyHikikOmori]

I'm on the same boat.. as I'm writing this comment I got Collection 17 on 0 HOURS LEFT! Now it's the second time I completed a set right before it ends.. It was fun for the first 2 months but easily became a chore, I've had a lot of close calls recently barely saving my ass every week because I've only been collecting sets that are about to expire. But tonight I'm planning on getting all three available sets again. Still surprised I managed to get every set so far and haven't missed any. At first I was helping my sister get her weekly sets after mine, but it's become so tedious that I've given up.. I wish I wasn't so obsessed with collecting every set, because half of them look ugly. But I've committed for so long and I'm not giving up anytime soon!

[@MegaU]

@@SunnyHikikOmori I wish I stuck with your mindset! I finally gave in to the tediousness a week ago or so, I've now missed one or two collections, I think I'll go back to collect the emoji stamps but dunno about going back to the weekly grind, it was very tiring!!

[@SunnyHikikOmori]

@@MegaU I might give up eventually, but thanks lol. In general we should just focus on getting sets that we truly want, because it's definitely a waste of time trying to collect everything. But I guess I can share some tips? I do the usual bowling grind, but I find it easier if you basically "afk farm" badminton. I realize it's kind of a scummy move if your opponents want an actual match but it only takes away a minute of their time. When I'm watching a movie or show I'll grind bowling because it only needs like 5-10 seconds of my time each round. (Surprisingly I do just as well even though im not paying attention) But when I'm truly sick of playing and want to focus my full attention doing something else. I'll afk farm badminton because it requires almost zero attention. Letting you fully enjoy playing a different game while getting points!

[@MegaU]

@@SunnyHikikOmori Ooh could you elaborate on afk farming badminton? And what about if its your turn to serve, though I suppose there's the countdown? That might actually help if I can leave that on and come back every few minutes to get it into a new game although I assume it takes quite a while haha I do feel bad that I've now lost my since launch streak, though tbf it was GCSE results day the next day so I couldn't really stay up grinding lmao, wouldn't have ended well 🙃 If there was a new collection every 2 weeks I think that would be better imo, while at launch period like I mentioned I always had each 3 collections gotten quickly, in the long run it would've worked better aha Do you play any other Switch games like Splatoon? Would be fun to play with you, you sound cool:)

[@SunnyHikikOmori]

@@MegaU I afk farm by going into the match and swinging my controller in the first round (just in case you're serving). Because if the controller stays still for too long you'll be kicked. It works out perfectly because whoever gets a point serves next. Meaning the other player will always serve and score a point 5 times making them win the match. This happens pretty quickly so you can get around 30 points every minute. Instead of paying attention 25% of the time while afk bowling, (because of the timer and 5-10 seconds to bowl) I'm only paying attention up to maybe 5% of the time while doing badminton. Only checking the game every minute to start another match Hopefully you understand what I mean, it took me longer than expected to type this out because its 4AM for me. I don't play Splatoon but I'll check it out! I always hear about it. I do play other games like ACNH :) Well have a good day/night!

[@Kairinkai]

when you said nintendo didnt care im here visiting japan and seeing switch sports on alot and they even have tv ads

[@theyfw_nai]

I actually like switch sports. My uncle and I got it together, since we get all new switch games so we can review them with each other. (He's getting pokemon violet, I'm getting scarlet, we tell each other what happens) I think Switch Sports is fun for what it is, but... it's not as good as wii sports. There's a lot less variety with switch sports, and the minimalism that went into it makes it a bit boring to play. The clothing items are fun and all, but after you've played every game, there's not much else you can do.

[@MoonstarAriadne]

I hate to admit it, but… I fell in love with this game. After I got a Switch on July 1st I didn’t buy this game because of the mixed reception, but after playing the game at my cousin’s house, I was sold and ordered the game at the exact time so that it would arrive mere days before the leg strap update. The clothes make me keep playing the game, but that’s okay since I’m having fun! I guess it’s because I grew up playing Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort, I don’t know.

[@projectdreamzz]

I played this at my cousins house too with his nintendo and it was fun

[@cookiesyruplover]

The sunk cost fallacy of buying a game and thinking I have to play it because if I don't somehow it's MY FAULT for not getting cosmetics for a game I PAID FOR. Where the most effective way to win points is ONLY bowling for some reason??? For ~HOURS ON END~, all for what? A limited item gacha mechanic! It's really merciless when you're sick too, sorry I can't bowl today, I'm bedridden and can't lift my arms but that Punk collection looks so good... oh it's gone in 2 days? Well FUCK.

[@LillyP-xs5qe]

I was very close to getting this game, till I saw they do the limited time online only unlocks and noped right out of there, hopefully it can be all unlocked right away under emulation or something later

[@_lost_3300]

i think the free updates thing is becoming a popular nintendo model for selling games in response to the massive outlash that happened just before new horizons was released, the Nintendo horribly abusing their workers thing. Not to say no one's mentioned it before, but it just came largely into view with the recent pokemon games. Nintendo's response was, obviously, new horizons, capitalizing on the fact that they were doing it "in order to give workers rest and not rush them so much." Due to how well this image was perceived by the general public, it's more or less become nintendo's go-to. They haven't actually changed how they treat their workers, and are now just using it as an excuse to release games that aren't even done yet. Switch sports is just sort of another instance of it I think.

[@hahababshuahahsvdbskajan]

For me, a large part of the reason why Switch Sports is so demoralizing is because there's a delusional part of me that keeps expecting Nintendo to add a new wave of DLC sports eventually... But seeing with how they swept Super Mario Party under the rug, I doubt it'll actually happen :/

[@ryans6442]

Personally I don’t think animal crossing was bad for the free update approach. It felt like enough of the base game was still there other than diving. I still feel like I got my money’s worth. Yes, they should have had all the holidays included at once, but it lead to some new surprises throughout the year to discover so it didn’t interfere with the game. Besides I mostly just play to donate fish and bugs the the museum anyway so I didn’t really notice anything due to that. However, the other free updates make the games feel incomplete at launch and it’s harder to go along with them the more Nintendo does it. Maybe it’s a way to keep new software being announced without adding more effort but it’s a weird approach since most of it would have to be finished by launch anyway. We saw golf in the switch sports trailer and with Mario golf released how different can it really be? I just hope they don’t do this with a game like BotW2

[@Squintis]

Yeah Nintendo has been getting bad at this. Almost all sport games come out unfinished now. And I’m still mad about ACNH. They said 3 years of updates but they pretty much put in holidays, slapped a dlc with missing items and called it a day. The game is still severely lacking compared to new leaf and sold so well and they’re just done with it. Didn’t even have the care enough to make a year 2 cake. So after that, I don’t trust Nintendo with “early access” Nintendo games anymore. Cause let’s be real, that’s what these games are, unfinished early access.

[@biscuitbcat]

I don't normally comment but I just want to say I really like your videos and editing style.

[@Mikashi27]

Like I literally agree. For a few months, I ALWAYS forced myself to play. Not because I wanted to, but because I am a competitive person, which is why I needed ALL of the customizing stuff. And even if I was super tired or whatever, I kept playing.

[@giantpinkcat]

All jokes aside, I believe those with paid DLCs/updates are a little more forgivable in certain aspects, for games such as... Splatoon - This game franchise already had free updates since the first game was known, and even then, the game itself is already pretty fun on its own. Also the Octo Expansion is just *mwah*. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - Kinda for the same reason. Despite the DLC planning on bringing in twice the amount of numbers on the base game's track to begin with, even without all that jazz, this game is already loaded with stuff. Even with an actual battle mode. This thing started getting rave reviews and selling like hotcakes before the DLC even existed. I could maybe even forgive Mario sports games for free updates because they're mostly just free characters, not a giant chunk of the game that should've been in the software in the first place.

[@fangier0]

What's bad about free updates, Minecraft has updates and no one gets annoyed. It's just dumb to pay for bonus content.

[@crazycockatoo5816]

​@@fangier0 The problem mainly comes from releasing sequels or reboots to popular games and releasing them with less content than their predecessors only to lazily pass it all off as "free updates".

[@fangier0]

@@crazycockatoo5816 Ok

[@kaushikpaddy7467]

Not enjoying a game and just playing for some digital rewards sounds like an actual problem...

[@gxalcremieshiny4229]

I don't mind free updates after launch under ONE condition: "the game they release is amazing WITHOUT the updates" splatoon is amazing even without all the free updates, you still can do everything, just have less weapons. Also something is that they release new weapons WEEKL, this prevents players from leaving a month after release. Animal crossing took too long with their updates, leading to the playerbase leaving before the update comes up. They explore the update, then leave until the next. This went on untill they didn't care anymore.

[@hazelr-5210]

I tapped on this video wondering if it was going to be the item shop, glad to know someone is finally talking about it. I missed the first two weekly rewards because target took way too long to deliver my PRE-ordered game. I don't really play the game very much anymore, despite really liking it, because I'm a completionist when it comes to games. Not being able to collect the missed weekly rewards just really bothers me, to the point where I just can't bring myself to play the game. So I turn to other games like Hollow Knight or Stardew Valley where I can actually play at my own pace, without feeling guilty for missing a week or two. I have a busy schedule and I can't always play videogames l, no matter how much I want to.

[@hazelr-5210]

Also this game is why I'm never ordering anything online from target again.

[@Kangiru_Noah]

to me, the clothing could litterally be expanded to not only one set of clothes, but by seperating the clothes by sections, like the upperbody, the underbody, the shoes, and also enabling some sections like the hats, the masks etc, why didnt they added hats to the miis? it was there in tomodachi life, but now its not, i just want my mii to look either cool or goofy also the chambara block is not the same as resort, why cant you block immediately after you have hit the block from the oponement, it should've been there, hopefully on the golf update it'll be fixed

[@RhythicManRhythm]

I mostly play the game at night so it’s easy to find opponents from other places.

[@morganevans8437]

I picked it up day of release on eshop and uninstalled it a week later. Re-installed it last week and uninstalled it a day later. There's nothing there for me and playing the original on Wii at the same time makes me realise how simple and open and fun that game was. Bowling online in Nintendo Switch Sports has largely become a case of "pray you get a perfect game" and the little reward you get for failing at the last hurdle is just not worth the effort. Tennis is completely random in terms of who you play against and suffers equally for it, soccer is only great played locally, badminton is okay and so were the ... err ... other games. Basically it's an average game riding on nostalgia coat tails whilst being weighed down by some horrible design decisions (no offline progession so as to "encourage" online play, lack of game variety and poor online matching, crappy outfits and accessory unlocks which have little to no appeal other than to say "look how many I've got"). It's just another in a growing line of first party £30+ sports game that's a frustrating time, effort and money waster. When golf turns up it's going to be as stilted as the rest of the game in terms of content, so why get excited?

[@DaNintendude]

I kinda give free updates a pass for Battle League because it's building everything up from scratch, unlike Strikers Charged, which was able to build upon the GameCube entry in an era where there wasn't as much detail and polish as there is now. But MAN was its starting roster underwhelming. In some cases, I actually really like Free updates, because it gives me a reason to return to a game. But Battle League, while I'll be coming back for each update, isn't really doing it for me. The gaps between updates is 2 months for a miniscule amount of content. If they were doing them once per month, that would be a lot better and it would probably leave me to play the game a lot more often. Battle League is just an upsetting product of how much time and effort has to go into such a detailed and lovingly crafted game. I don't doubt they already have a lot of the free update stuff ready in advance, but they really do need that time to make sure everything is perfect and ready to update. If the game released next year instead, they could've just released everything at launch and had unlockable characters instead. Or at least have a bigger starting roster. My biggest problem though is that all the stage and team customization features are restricted to online. I don't have NSO right now, so I've been unable to do ANY of the customization stuff, and it's left the game much more shallow as a result. PLEASE Nintendo, make customization available for free play offline.

[@GorillaTeamCasinoULTRA]

I want them to update Mario party… and add more characters to new Mario games like why have they consistently put out games with like 6 characters?

[@Geobot3000]

Everyone’s basically forgot about the game at this point they’ll probably pick it up again for like 2 days when golf gets released and then drop it again 🤣

[@Spletz]

“Wii sports making themselves as available as possible” Also Wii sports only being released on 1 console

[@evicteetori8738]

Being released on the most accessible console and playable on the wii u as well

[@Valcuda]

I'm absolutely sick of the "Free update" model. It should be called the "Released in Beta" model, cause that's basically what they're doing! They're taking an unfinished beta of the game, polishing it so it looks good for release, and then providing the rest of the game later. For New Horizons, the 2.0 update *still* feels unfinished! Harvs island feels like a test map to test out the new shops! Personally, I'm not gonna buy a game with free updates until the game is finally finished. It shows to Nintendo that I don't support the practice, and will only buy a *complete* game.

[@fangier0]

So you hate Minecraft, Geometry Dash and many other good games with free updates? You are weird.

[@HolanteTheMobileGamer]

@@fangier0 Minecraft, Geometry Dash Has replayability compared to the games this person mentioned doesn't have

[@fangier0]

@@HolanteTheMobileGamer Ok. Both games have great replayability value.

[@Avm371998]

Unlike wii sport that was so much fun for years after release, switch sport became boring after just 1 week. Nintendo wasn't able to capture the feels and atmosphere of wii sport. If they would've just straight up ported wii sport it would've been a way better game, that is just sad.

[@number420dad]

Entering the era where everything looks to be heading toward free update games reminds me of the grim path freemium games started which I guess got us here in the 1st place!

[@Office_chair]

It's even worse now because I don't know if it's only something we've experienced but ever since the new update with advanced volleyball and soccer controls literally everything except bowling says it has horrible internet and will kick you out. My dad has got irritated multiple times.

[@nax_tothemax]

I just really wish I could play by myself and still earn points for those rewards. The only one I played online was bowling, and that wasn’t bad, but I’m not sure how I’d feel about the others since I’m kinda bad at them 😂

[@justajad2809]

When you don't have the Nintendo Switch Online Membership for Nintendo Switch Sports: 💀

[@juliannocartagena2007]

Pretty much…

[@timebubble8421]

i will allways feel bad for hardcore nintendo fans that enjoy games like the mario sports games or this one or even pokemon games because the games lack so much comparing to the ones before as Nintendo is only caring about the money they make and not the quality but hardcore fans will still buy these things because they love the series wich is completely understandable. but as someone that isn't interested in the games i mentioned i allways think to myself how happy i am that i am not because it saves so much money and dissapointment. it's very sad that these games do so well in sales because it should not be supported. it's at times like this where i really hope Splatoon3 will sell even better as the creators of the game are truly making it good and putting a ton of effort into it. i was scared that nintendo would ruin the splatoon series aswell as i am a splatoon fan but it makes me very happy that this series is still going strong!

[@Zoe-tj4ld]

i hate it, wii sports and wii sportd resort are some of my favourite games of all time and i was very excited after seeing the trailer but after seeing how bad it was i just never got it and forgot it existed. instead ive been excited to play wii sports and wii sports resort again (cant play them rn). it makes me sad since nintendo used to be one of my favourite companies and now theyre so greedy. i loved animal crossing wild world and new leaf when i was younger too and while i still enjoy new horizons i dont get the same feeling i used to get, the only reason i still like it is because i love designing. most companies in general are getting greedy though like disney and ea i dont expect anything to get better.

[@Zoe-tj4ld]

also i usually love character customisation in games but for this game i know i wouldn't care that much since i want it to have fun like i did with the older games not to dress up my character i already play the sims 4 and animal crossing new horizons too much lmao

[@gamingforalaugh77]

The thing is games such as animal crossing release as finished games and the free updates are neat things to add to the already complete game

[@Kitnick.]

most login rewards are scuffed which i dont like

[@deaf-tomcat]

with animal crossing, I think that the login bonuses aren't a bad thing. animal crossing goes on real time, and keeps track of how long you've been playing ( or not ) characters come on special days, on a specific day of the week. weeds begin to crowd your island and roaches overwhelm your house if you don't visit for over a week. the incentive to continue playing everyday is part of the game. the free update thing is hit or miss. it's one thing to keep updating a game to add in more gameplay or deal with bugs, but most games nowadays debut without actually being finished. so people pay all this money for an unfinished product and then have to wait until the free update.

[@GmineBru]

Another thing I realized was that the character creator in miitopia wasn't in switch sports

[@juliannocartagena2007]

There’s a reason for that. The Miitopia remaster was made by GREZZO and thus they were the ones who made those extra features.

[@GmineBru]

@@juliannocartagena2007 ahh ok still kinda sucks tho it doesn't seem like we're gonna be seeing it in different games with miis

[@dullsunrise8820]

One thing that especially hurts is that it costs $60. If Nintendo wants to make a live service game, fine. Whatever. But make it at the very least cheap especially if it’s going to have this little content. EDIT: turns out it’s actually $40 digital and $50 physical. Still incredibly overpriced.

[@kaphizmey6229]

nintendo: *$60, take it or leave it*

[@micah8260]

actually it's 40/50 dollars. 40 for digital, 50 for physical

[@dullsunrise8820]

@@micah8260 ah thanks didn’t know that, I’ll correct my original comment.

[@IanNBF]

Wii Sports Resort let you unlock *EVERYTHING* in the base game *without* a wifi connection Oh, how far we have fallen from grace...

[@goretrance_x]

i genuinely hope splatoon 3 does not feel stale because of content and update drought, only difference is that nintendo actually gives a shit about splatoon and made it clear we're going to get something new every 3 months for 2 years and well i think i prefer that than being left in the dark for 8 or more months waiting for an update like i did with acnh.... (also they lied about acnh having 3 years of support they gave up in year 2 LMAO)

[@MoobOgler]

Well it’s not that Nintendo doesn’t give a shit about their other games acnh and splatoon are made by a different studio within Nintendo and they’re the only ones who know how to do free DLC and are learning even more as they go and the rest of Nintendo is just doing a poor job of trying to follow in their footsteps

[@goretrance_x]

@@MoobOgler from what i hear splatoon and acnh share the same development team (which would explain a number of splatoon references ingame). i would imagine they were split to work on both side by side but eventually all moved on to splat3 which caused acnh to be partially neglected but then again that's all just speculation in my part. whatever is the case i just have my fingers crossed for splatoon 3 to be a good example for a live service game, because their recent attempts have been god awful as of late.

[@Minorskillissue]

Nobody talks about this switch sports problem becuase not many people talk about switch sports

[@juliannocartagena2007]

Blah blah blah not enough content at launch.

[@itzhope3787]

What i feel like they shouldve done was just make it to where we can play both wii sports and wii sports resort on the switch

[@mayonaise0]

Mike from the NSU (Nintendo Sports Universe) is canonically my father

[@mistwaves]

4:46 what's the song in the background during this section?

[@kingcherryblossom2059]

Imo, switch sports is a fun game… with a whole lotta problems, lol. Everything you said is true, and should’ve definitely been changed. I hate this free update system. But what I’ve hated the most about switch sports is that they went so off brand from wii sports. It’s so different! The miis… have limbs!! I know that’s a weird thing to say, but I liked them so much better then. The game seems very corporate. Like not many risks were taken. The game selection could’ve been expanded on too, to maybe have some of the more popular wii sports and resort games. I wish Nintendo didn’t do it how they did :/

[@juliannocartagena2007]

Why should anyone care about Miis having limbs anyway?!

[@kingcherryblossom2059]

@@juliannocartagena2007 I don’t know, it just looks kinda weird. Since the mii face is pretty simple I went with the floaty hands and no legs. It’s just always been like that and I guess I’m used to it. I wish they’d just go back to the original miis. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it, you know?

[@juliannocartagena2007]

@@kingcherryblossom2059 Well even in the Mii creators since 2006, they had limbs!

[@kingcherryblossom2059]

@@juliannocartagena2007 oooh I see… yeah fair point lol. You see what I mean with the switch sports guys though, right? I feel as though they’re just too detailed. I’m fine with the mii creator limbs and all that, it goes pretty well with the design. I wish they would’ve at least stuck with that instead of going with sports mates bodies for the miis. I also just don’t like the sports mates in general, it’s whatever though. I just wish they’d change it

[@pikachuscoobydoo9507]

I been enjoying Switch Sports but I do agree with what you were saying about if the collections are coming back or not as I had missed the first 3 as I hadn’t gotten the game till June anyways another thing that I hate about the game is that our Miis can only wears the clothes and outfits and not the other stuff like hats glasses etc there’s been a bunch of cool hats and stuff and it sucks that my Mii can’t wear them I like playing as my Mii rather then the avatars

[@yoshimasterleader]

I haven't bought a Nintendo game in years and I feel fine. Totally recommend.

[@lovedella6483]

Honestly? I'm too physically inactive to play this game for long periods of time, and it gets so boring even if i start getting more fit. If i could play it with my family without the online stuff i'd probably be more willing to play it and get rewards.

[@leo_is_not_available]

Also you can't get these funny cosmetics through playing offline. That's horrible.

[@pandasingzstuff]

Love your outro! Nostalgic!

[@lulin2546]

5:30 are you saying this because tenta missiles ;(

[@andrewtimberlake]

Do people not like them? I didn’t play much splatoon 2 but they look cool

[@MoobOgler]

@@andrewtimberlake people don’t like them because they’re easy to spam, have infinite range, takes no skill to use, and forces you to split up from your team. They need a lot of tweaking but design wise they do look cool haha

[@lulin2546]

@@MoobOgler perfectly said, they do too much for not enough effort being input

[@pokeplat]

go off king but also does anyone know what the song at 4:46 is?

[@towelboy8344]

I’m so surprised you don’t have like 100k subs, content is beautiful, keep grinding :)

[@hauntedsunsets]

just. what the hell happened to nintendo? I fanboy'd one last time when I bought ACNH a mere week after launch (despite my still playing it I viscerally hate it for so many reasons) and since then I've just become more and more uncertain when I'll actually bother putting money towards a nintendo game again. pokemon lost me, I'm gonna be highly skeptical of whatever comes out from the next animal crossing game, BOTW2 is the only thing that has a chance of drawing me in but even then who's to say I won't put that off until I can buy a copy second hand?

[@dragonweirdocreap]

Nintendo party/sports games in general have fallen. They have really fallen into a cycle of unfinished free update games. I'd say the only entirely good free updates game is Splatoon atm. They seem to be really undercutting the dev time for sports/party games to get early release windows and pay out the game with free updates...which half the time are just rooster additions and nothing that actually fixes the voids in the base game.

[@MoobOgler]

So how do you feel about splatoon 3 you gonna try the word premier? It’s free

[@StarlightNkyra]

I really hate that Nintendo switch sports had to be bad. Soccer and chambara were really fun, but if there was more just to do the game wouldn't be the last thing on my mind when I boot up my switch. Switch sports had so much missed potential and has too many annoying elements that it just feels like you wasted 40 bucks. The game should be priced 20 dollars maximum. I wish the game could've been great, but it seems Nintendo just wanted a quick cash grab.

[@Blavin]

I really like your outro!

[@namkwal]

nobodys talking about it because nobodys talking about the game itself

[@yoongiverse.]

I wish they either brought back each of the rewards items or made it take less time to get them. It sometimes takes me two games of bowling to get ONE item out of a pack. And it takes like 24 games to get the whole thing.

[@Jakepearl13]

Finally,a take that isn’t just “sportsmates bad”

[@LandonEmma]

The reason no one talks about it is no one plays the game, owns the game, or wants the game. It's a terrible game for the Wii Sports series...

[@juliannocartagena2007]

Oh yeah!? And what about Wii Sports Club?!

[@LandonEmma]

@@juliannocartagena2007 Yeah, and that one too...

[@juliannocartagena2007]

@@LandonEmma That one was worse at launch! It only came with 2 sports doggone it!

[@davidstaffen6783]

It's kind of strange but Fortnite is pretty good with it's update. I mean in terms of costumer value. As far as I can tell it's more like Minecraft where they had a completed ged and then decided to keep adding stuff for the sake of something new and fun.

[@SpaceGamer07]

It’s so weird how they call updates free, like imagine playing something like genshin impact (or insert open world game here) and they made a new part of the map and just went “haha *now give us 20 dollars*”

[@fangier0]

Same with Minecraft. Would be bad if all updates were paid. For example: Want 1.12 version? Pay us 10 dollars. You wanna 1.16? Pay 20 dollars.

[@roverplush2.0]

The fact that it exists

[@juliannocartagena2007]

What?

[@roverplush2.0]

@@juliannocartagena2007 that's the biggest problem

[@juliannocartagena2007]

@@roverplush2.0 What is?

[@roverplush2.0]

@@juliannocartagena2007 the game exists

[@juliannocartagena2007]

@@roverplush2.0 Well that’s harsh.

[@Fiflaq21]

The most annoying thing for me is that the unlocks are locked to the account and not game or switch. So if you have siblings each have to unlock everything on their own.

[@SolarFarle]

You can't even select a specific item once you get enough points. You just get a random one. I wanted the green hair color but it chose a hat for me instead.

[@profl0g1c38]

I find this model very ironic in that the whole point is to keep people playing... but for me the fomo actively pushed me away. Like I was really into switch sports, booted it up every few days and binged a bit. But as soon as realised that i had to play in specific intervals to unlock everything, i decided that it wasn't worth doing and the pressure keeps me from booting it up at all

[@Swampert_Tube]

I agree, but in defense of switch sports, you can send updates to your friends on the switch locally so the "future of not being able to update at all" is something to not really worry about.

[@Luigi64]

1....1.5k hours in animal crossing???

[@litchtheshinigami8936]

Lol my thought was also to just log on once a week and play a bit.. but then i ended up without internet for several weeks and i missed so much i just kinda gave up

[@dezert956]

I hate to say it but I doubt there is way to successfully advise people to not buy unfinished games, in order to stop companies from screwing consumers over. I just hope that it never reaches the BS extent as the Call of Duty series.

[@AdrianBigyes]

I play for 2 hours, get the weekly rewards, then play sparingly within the week. For just 2 hours a week, I think that works for me.

[@BBWahoo]

"The Switch Sports Problem Nobody Talks About" Demeech: 🦎👁👁

[@juliannocartagena2007]

Me: Oh god not him.

[@KhakiCap]

They just can't keep getting away with this!

[@nep4934]

I'm not gonna lie, I forgot this game even existed

[@Schubelicious]

I hate that you can’t share cosmetic items. I’m so mad you spend so much times earning them and they’re for a single character