The Talon Finally Goes to the DYNO - DSM Chassis Swap Ep 4

[@GearsandGasoline]

Reply to my comment with your hp guess, then respond to your comment with how far off you were. Closest guess gets personal satisfaction.

[@sonnyrodriguez9850]

I guessed 450 but I also guessed it would crankwalk at the dyno in true DSM fashion.

[@akilh340]

500 hp Edit: I was 34 hp too low lol

[@seran2316]

guessed 520 with that turbo

[@capturehorizon1]

510

[@boulaibrahim3755]

Guessing 350 hp

[@collinwiedel]

I think you should do the tail-light conversion. These videos have been golden. Thank you for showing your failures and mishaps alongside the progress. Far more relatable and helps us all relate and feel more confident in our own projects

[@GearsandGasoline]

Without failures and mishaps this video would be about 9 minutes long

[@SoSickMotorsports]

I agree eclipse tails will looks far better.

[@Levent_Ergun]

100% eclipse tail lights

[@roniekahar8511]

Totally agree. I gave up on a couple of projects due to a number of failures and ended up selling them. Thinking back, i wish i gave it a little more time and patience to achieve that project car that leaves you all smiles. G&G!

[@anonymous_.1833]

Yes the tail lights please!

[@am55255]

This is really why Ben sold the STI. He didn’t want that car to be embarrassed by this death trap.

[@coltondoescars]

I mean, Ben's STI could have made like 800-900 with a different turbo, but I see your point. 😂

[@am55255]

@@coltondoescars I was just goofin’ for funsies.

[@lcameeno1]

​@@am55255 funsies

[@isaiahdanielvlog]

@@coltondoescars wouldn’t matter too much the car is heavy asf 🤣

[@coltondoescars]

@@isaiahdanielvlog I wouldn't call 3400 lbs that heavy nowadays. Certainly a lot more than the Talon, though.

[@jameselliott674]

Kenny is a necessary part of this channel

[@bhcamaro2002]

Ben: "You want a Subaru? Kenny: "NO." 😂

[@razzor4708]

Laughs at Smeedia and MrSubaru channels

[@seandenham1703]

Excellent editing! The way the TIG sound melds into the music (chef's kiss)

[@GearsandGasoline]

Andrew is an artist

[@leopoldwhylie5076]

You recognized that too!!! Thought I was alone.

[@apptreeline]

music melted into music

[@DaleFredriksRacing]

Came here to say this, wonderful sound design!

[@MostDopeGlizzy]

"im asian i cant get cancelled for this" 😂

[@v8_sami]

Lmfao the Australian accent is spot on. 😭😭😭

[@michaelallen2501]

Remarkably good lol.

[@NotAnotherCar]

@@michaelallen2501 remaaarkably good?

[@Miggy2j]

​@@NotAnotherCar 😂😂😂

[@camhollo1139]

Nah, it was more kiwi than Australian

[@MyzteryMedia]

“I’ll lift the head straight off the studs” 🤣🤣

[@BrokeWrench]

Foreshadowing 😅

[@chase276]

The welding syncing to the music is so good

[@MrCallmevader]

it's giving me gran turismo vibes

[@SSLUTTY]

Plantation - Omri Smadar

[@SSLUTTY]

Is the song that is played during the fab work

[@Wind_slash0]

Sounds like pron music

[@jamesfox7642]

even in the exact same key... as a musician so satisfying...

[@turbo_brian]

"You tryin to run more boost?" "It's a DSM ain't it?"

[@A2J_Tim]

Driver Slash Mechanic.

[@TimothyDong]

We need more of Kenny on the channel, absolutely love the interactions with him and the G&G gang

[@NateDog_WDE]

Moral of the story is, Ben can't be cancelled for anything.

[@GearsandGasoline]

I'm like the titanic: unsinkable

[@GleepGlop2]

@@GearsandGasoline know any good jokes about God's chosen people?

[@of_lion22]

During the "Crank til the starter burns" phase, you could hear when the engine started building oil pressure around 11 sec. Suddenly it spun over slightly faster, and a moment later oil came out of the hose. Neat.

[@itzadam4826]

Ben got hosed with his sti, and Asian Ben got hosed with his eclipse.

[@MarkGibbons]

What happened to the sti?

[@Shftrz]

​@@MarkGibbons Ben sold it

[@tragicnomadic]

Barely cleared 41k ​@@MarkGibbons

[@affalterbachamg2094]

Watched the auction, timer runs down to a min, someone pushed it to 41.250, and no more bids till timer reached 0. Only 1 single last minute bid. ​@@MarkGibbons

[@_Suzuka_Joe]

@@tragicnomadic it did have 90k miles but new motor and some nice upgrades. pretty sure he didnt lose money on it though.

[@CarsNCoasters]

30:48 has aged brilliantly.

[@kristjancebulj8162]

A man of his word😂

[@Croptopolis]

I really appreciate you giving insight to the journey of car builds on YT. I feel like more often than not I just see "this is my 1000 HP thing" and turns out it has been a year in the works.

[@MapleMonarchy]

Currently this is my favourite build on KZbin. I love seeing DSM content. Keep up the good work

[@BJCrifasi]

Next time you need to prime an engine for oil psi when new or rebuilt, remove the spark plugs for the cranking & priming session, its both easier on the starter and will yield a higher rpm. Also removes compression load from the bearings while they are without oil pressure.

[@AWD_DSM_FTW]

This is why every engine that I put together gets the oil pump spun by a drill to put oil where it belongs before I ever fire the car. Exception is if the engine is going to sit a while, but even then, it's no different than storing it over winter.

[@79huddy]

I just pull the oil pressure sender and take a oil can and pump oil in the galley till it pushes the tip of the can off of the block that or pack a little Vaseline in the pump so it has good suction on initial crank the Vaseline stays put if it sits for a while before install also

[@turbo_brian]

For the 4g63, always prime the engine before putting the timing belt on. Drill to the oil pump for a solid like 5 minutes until you see oil squirting from the rockers. Then you know you're good.

[@MrJessegsx]

Solid strategy.

[@curts6352]

doesnt take 5 minutes. every 4g63 i've primed with a drill was firing oil out of the top of the rockers within 5 seconds. if you assembled the car with assembly lube, you dont need to prime anything. an oil change also bares the pickup, so unless you put the engine together dry, you dont even need to prime anything, but we all do it anyway.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Grounds are the culprit for so many failures. Seen this be a fix on a lot of my cars, including my current one. Congratulations Ben on your 500+ horsepower beast. This was a worthwhile project.

[@marcusrange5509]

Your friggin chapter titles get me every time hahaha. Last one is hilarious. Also props to whoever selects the music for these vids. It's always good, but the attention to detail in picking tracks that are in-tune with the welding buzz is just the right amount of extra.

[@DeadBaron]

I love the chapter names lmao. Also the guy that welded the exhaust and coolant lines is insanely good

[@martiniracing930]

mark is the best car buddy to have. he's a guy i like seeing on the videos

[@DEADPEDAL]

4:16 Obsessed with the welder being in the same key as the song.

[@XxmuncsterxX]

The build series are actually my favorite. Thanks for putting so much effort into these.

[@Xbox360Tech1]

Kenneth Mcdonald is the man! Local guy here ive known for years and years, he was my go to for when i got into my talon back in 2017. he still tunes my 1g Eagle talon tsi awd and he is the man! BlackSheepTuning ftw!!

[@Kenuwine24]

Aayyyeeee

[@dragontalontsiawd]

Hence my username, I have a 1998 AWD Turbo Eagle Talon TSi, my DSM. I been trying to find a 3S platform, preferably an RT Twin Turbo Stealth. Modded of course, used to be my DD, 500 ish wheel. Kept the 2gb body intact unmodified, no rice body kits. I also threw on 2ga side skirts, I have the Indy fire engine red paint scheme I believe. Glad to see some love for our poor man's Supra aka our forgotten Mitsubishi's. Mitsu is a shadow of its former self.

[@MrJessegsx]

Hell yeah!!! Jazzed on this and that I got to be a part of it!!

[@eckomob6898]

Ben, I geeked out over the welding shots from inside the pipe. I've been watching fabrication stuff for years and I don't think I've seen anyone shoot it like that. Brilliant shot.

[@Jordansim]

I just want to give a shout out to the editor on mixing the sound welding into the music. Well done! That said...the music this entire episode was amazing. Loved it.

[@ricepud]

I'm really digging the Ridge Racer R4 style music during the welding montage. Nostalgia for the win

[@writehse]

The audio, cinematography and humor is on point, can’t get enough of this content

[@chandlerhull5988]

Wow, I never realized how smoothly those band saws cut through metal piping.

[@krowngarage9498]

I have a 2ga talon, and I have a KZbin channel in which I literally just did the spacer mod to fit my precision 62/62. I used a cast iron manifold that I ported and used a flange as a spacer. Yours and mine should make boost very well with those short runners!

[@ChristopherHarris6005]

Awesome video as always Ben and Mark.

[@Gho5tdSS]

I said when you first got this car that it would be a gem when you fixed it up. Don't get rid of it man, this is an awesome build.

[@jtackerman28]

Big flex with the evo 8 ofh, can probably get another dsm chassis for what those are worth 😂

[@GearsandGasoline]

You're not kidding.

[@Lhex_]

8:19 Like the 80% Arms sticker

[@GSX1999]

That look in your eyes after the first pull did bring a tear in my eyes. You either love or hate Eclipses, im pretty sure you love yours now since it did behave accordingly this time ❤

[@sonnyrodriguez9850]

My wife is Japanese and the entire country of Japan approves of the katakana English, congrats ギアズアンドガソリン

[@AlanGiressebeans]

This are the type of videos that revive my hype for continuing my kouki S14. Thanks for everything guys for keep on being down to earth like all of us

[@dougarias5325]

every time i take a car to the Dyno makes me feel like I have to go with the fire fighters because I have that feeling where all of it is going to blow up. Good numbers on the talon long Ben. Congrats!

[@DarioSpeed.]

I love how when he was welding the back track matched up, the welding sounded like synth awesome editing

[@LoneStarGarage832]

I bought Valvoline gear oil because y’all showed me how easy it is to use the bag. Thanks G&G!

[@AWD_DSM_FTW]

Don't put it in a DSM trans. GL4 ONLY. The magic GL3/4/5 are garbage for the W5M33.

[@LoneStarGarage832]

@@AWD_DSM_FTW well i put it in the rear diff of a 4Runner so…

[@MRTuning704]

As always awesome video! The eagle talons have a special place in my heart but I noticed something off on the dyno… sounds like a cylinder is down but not all the time. Maby spark blow out or low compression or a burnt/bad sealing valve. Something is definitely off and at your power level you gotta make sure everything is 100% or it’s a bad day I know this project has been a pain but that’s just DSM’s in general 😢😂

[@5PYZ3R]

yeah it sounded bad to me but my ears are blocked up right now and I can't tell if it was just the mic or what. Kenny knows what he's doing though so I'd expect him to have caught something major and not to mention Ben and Mark are experienced too

[@5PYZ3R]

actually on instagram he says the rear mount was loose

[@BrokeWrench]

​@@5PYZ3Rthat makes sense i guess. Seemed like the whole engine was rocking a lot during the pulls when you would expect the power to be shoving it 1 direction without rocking

[@TheMoparman94]

If you're trying to prime a motor for the first time, pull the plugs if you can! The motor will turn over much easier and faster! Less work for the battery and starter.

[@btownballer27]

Yes. Less pressure makes sense.

[@robbalinski1606]

Dsm's are beasts..... Solid tune there Ben. I should be getting him to tune my 98 talon!

[@yegork3130]

Every shot that Kenny is in is always funny as hell 😂

[@jakescharger9496]

Love watching these every week it keeps me working on my dsm

[@AWD_DSM_FTW]

Kenny and I are so damn similar. I typically tune on the conservative side, but if someone tells me to give 'em that "Bring a Trailer tune"... I'm gonna be putting your head gasket program to the test.

[@Kenuwine24]

Damn right

[@gopro5344]

I love this series so much. Probably my favorite on YT currently.

[@Geekandsneaks]

When Ben does the Aussie accent always makes me laugh because it’s pretty good.

[@kctheginger]

@13:46 You can see that AN line on the left of the fuel pressure regulator dripping a little bit, not sure if this was caught or if its 12am and I am seeing things but loving this content!

[@MoldovanG.]

Wow! I didn't expect that kind of power! Great job guys!

[@sleeperworksgarage]

Man I reeeeeaaally wanna see a talon wing on it. Good job bringing it back to life guys! Job well done!

[@raceace]

That aussie accent is coming along nicely

[@psiturbo]

Andrew is sharp on his work ethic, a master welder! *When I prime my engines I disable the fuel pump and remove the spark plugs.

[@jeff_la]

One of the best channel out there ! you guys always bring fun caracters to the show and the vibe in general is just awesome ! let it rip !

[@AndorRadnai]

The new front bumper looks gorgeous! Those plates make it look a million times better than the standard bumper in my eyes.

[@livestrib3752]

The shot in the down pipe while welding was too cool!

[@ImranShaikh-nh6bp]

When you guys started pulling the motor first time on dyno, it sounded so smooth and I know we are gonna see some good numbers.

[@thegoyanator3256]

To prime a fully assembled 4g63 without constantly cranking it, take out the brake booster fitting on the rear of the intake manifold, and put that in the oil pressure port on the oil filter housing. Use a screw on fluid pump that you can buy for gear oil and get a quart of oil and pump away. Keep pumping until you see oil come out of the rockers. I've done it many times on my 1g and gvr4 builds.

[@rashadjones]

6:25 "I did not say that."

[@VS666]

hahahahahaha

[@koltrountree5219]

I believe all the team work has proved to make the talon worthy! Awesome to see it putting down healthy numbers,im sure it will make for some epic runs to the grocery store... as always G&G is putting out top notch vids,I can't wait to see the what's next

[@xdreaminboi228x]

I don’t know why this channel makes me smile so much.

[@PASSPORT29]

Thank you for featuring dsm!! This was such an entertaining watch.

[@artemis77777]

MY CAR IS FAST CUZ I GOT GUAGE PODS 🔥🔥🗣🗣

[@stavi017]

I forgot to comment that Ben's Australian accent is the best thing ever and I need an episode or an Australian car build series with it (Like a Commodore or Speedster/VX220 or something Australian). It's great! I guess Ben's accent's in general is funny though, the Camaro and accent was hilarious.

[@TexasVexes]

They're never truly done, its just where you decide to stop.

[@raidersperez1278]

But then if you let it sit or sell it that’s the only car you think about and will always have that empty feeling. 😢. I gave up on my mk3 Supra build for 6 years before I sold it and 3 years later after selling it I always hear the down shifts echoing in my head when exiting the freeway or coming to a stop.

[@djpollo2474]

​@raidersperez1278 damnnnn broo I too had a mk3 supra (actually 2 an 88 and a 92) I miss the hell out the 88 since it was in the family since 1992 and my dumbass sold it 🤦‍♂️ Now own an ep3 civic 😪

[@TexasVexes]

@@raidersperez1278 yeah bro im fighting with myself on whether to sell my car or not. I know I will regret it, especially not having another quick vehicle around. I probably only take it out 3-4 times a month, but when I do I love it. 🤙

[@raidersperez1278]

@@TexasVexes i used the money to help pay for my 21 type r. Before I started working on the Supra and it was 100% stock (besides basic necessities) it was my daily to work. It was maybe 15 miles to and from. But then I moved out of my home town and those 15 miles turned to 75 miles both ways. I regret selling her but it was a huge weight being lifted off my shoulders. I would be at work just stressing and thinking about what could be wrong with it. Plus I live in Cali so it was getting Ridiculous trying to get smog check. (Under the table of course). Type r is boring compared to a RWD 80s turbo car but a lot more comfy. 😂

[@welshmunn]

​@@raidersperez127875 miles each way. Wow 😅

[@DarkNinja1776]

Andrewis the only person on KZbin I've seen that doesn't make excuses for his welds...since they're good.

[@gypsiz]

On a relaxing Saturday evening, there is nothing quite like watching a G&G episode, all the way from Nairobi.

[@TriniRogue]

The eclipse front and the talon rear is such a cool look, the car just looks like its fast cant wait for the driving vid.

[@TurboGaming86]

Dope video bro i also have a Dsm but it’s a 1ga making 600 hp for now DSM LOVE ❤

[@MisterLowrider]

I'm glad the dyno session was thrown in with this episode because the time was winding down and i was saying to myself, they better put the dyno session on the end of this!! 😂😂 good episode!!

[@MD-sg4oc]

Kenny is the funniest dude he said like 3 words and I pissed my self

[@brandon_buildsDIY]

Sunday night lunch breaks are much better with a new G&G upload.

[@MajorAddiction]

Nice to see you guys re-hired Mark 🙂

[@SHADOW_WIZRD]

Can’t ever get enough of the content these guys produce. Hands down the best, keep it up fellas much love from Australia

[@sebastiancunningham6476]

The PWR logo on the intercooler lines up perfect on the 2005-2010ish BF Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo

[@Fk8td]

Congratulations on doing such a large swap as an enthusiast. The only tip I have is I don’t recommend cranking a car like this to get oil pressure in a manual transmission . You should always remove the spark plugs if you’re going to crank the engine in order to get oil pressure. This is so that the engine will spin faster. However, if you have a clutched car, I don’t recommend doing this because you’re going to push the clutch into a dry thrust washer in the engine and possibly damage it causing crank. You are better off using a pressurized tank and just start the engine shortly afterwards

[@HansonLinek]

The way you mixed the music in with the AC tig welding was nice.

[@JuliusPeoples]

😂😂😂 no one ever catches the chapter label names,, they're hilarious 🤣

[@hereforthecomments1818]

The rear end will just never grow on me😂 but love how far this build/chassis swap has come thus far

[@robbalinski1606]

I think it looks tits! mind you in Canada we only got the talons and lasers, all the eclipse's we got were imported from states side......and the last how many years canadian talons are being imported states side like crazy.

[@hereforthecomments1818]

@@robbalinski1606 learnt something new today, had no idea

[@retrofitsrus]

It would look better without the wing and with black Talon lettering in the middle

[@HeinousinAppearance]

God damn this thing is gonna rip......itself apart most likely, but its a DSM so that is part of the fun.

[@mattfarr]

Long time viewer, first time commenter. I think this is shaping up to be my favorite build so far. So satisfying to see come together.

[@xxthelostasianxx]

Mark has the sailor humor and mindset. Just like all my other sailors i work with haha

[@Jeff-lt9xr]

2:02 as a Mighty Max owner (probably different year than the part you got), the OFH location on the truck kinda blows. it sits like 30° to the left from the front of the engine making it a pain to get a good grip on the filter bc the frame rail is almost 2in below it

[@King_Rematch]

where i come from people think im weird for not selling my 97 GSX, ive had multiple newer faster toys up to this point in my life but ik wen im done building her the way i want nothing will compare. ty Ben! for proving my point.

[@zanderbam]

Ben: I love the voices, please continue. You won't get cancelled if you call it inclusion

[@11LancerSportback]

What is that bumper? Or at least what are those black covers over the fog light holes? It looks really good

[@jaynuck]

I didn’t know today’s video was going to bring me fab work ASMR while I’m in the shower…but I’m here for it

[@ealoken]

Your channel has become one of my top favourites. Thank you. 🎉🎉

[@cramdangle]

Great choice in music. I’m so tired of generic snare drums/ hip hop beats everyone else does.

[@Zpoq]

So happy to see a Talon getting all the attention

[@fyfoxx]

Lovvvveeeddd the welding closeups with the music. Easily the best part.

[@nmlearnerforever]

Wish the eclipse taillights could be put together with the new chassis. It looks so much better than the talon's taillights.

[@minivanmorrison]

When the note the Tig made matched frequency with the elevator DnB, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up and I went 😩 GGNNNNNEEEEUUUUUUHHHH

[@brettmarriott9067]

Great choice on the music. Really enjoyed this video.

[@basilfabian05]

Seeing go past 500 was glorious. The eclipse/talon is coming back super strong 🔥