The Technical Genius That Changed The Marvel Meta

MarlinPie has always been a technical genius and an execution god. After many attempts and tries, MarlinPie finally got a TAC infinite in tournament. This is the story of the match that changed the Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3 meta forever
User Disaster corrected me and explained the original creator of the TAC infinite is 'JosixOverlord' with his Trish! Thanks Disaster!
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[@orchid_carmen]

As someone who watched a lot of Marvel 3 in it's prime I never fully grasped how TAC infinites worked, but seeing it laid out like this really helped. The part with jumping just as you hit the ground is very similar to Alpha 3 crouch cancel combos and knowing how rough those are playing A3 so much, this really gave me a whole new level of respect for the shit I'd see these dudes pull off so effortlessly. Great video man!

[@GodLovesMe666]

You just hold up to avoid any frames of going back to neutral, that's all. The logic is very simple.

[@gamehhh012]

Yeah, basically. There's a specific frame of animation for each character that allows the infinite to happen.

[@marcisarn2365]

@@gamehhh012 but you have to hold up and then a direction with S button ? i don't understand

[@modest1989]

​@@marcisarn2365that's how you initiate the tac to begin with. When you press s and a direction to tag in your other character in the air your opponent can guess what direction you used and if guessed right they stop the combo. That has nothing to do with the infinite though since that takes place after you successfully air tag your second character in

[@StartersofRage]

MVC3 history: Doomface is the one who started Doom TACS in the first place. Even Marlin can attest to this as he was inspired and evolved the TAC game much further and did them in tournament for the world to see. Marlin then became a pioneer and came up with with his own tech like "Follow my lead." and new setups for years to come. They both deserve recognition.

[@Wheatsolo]

And, I feel like TAC are still underused meta. Like people are good at the guessing game.

[@accordingtoabe2211]

i came here to say this as i grew up with doomface. he was one of the ogs at the arcade i went to, where i learned to play from lots of tourney level players,before i even knew what the fgc was. i remember watching him experiment with what would come to be the blueprint that marlinpie went on to modify.

[@slim3710]

@@Wheatsolo under used?

[@Wheatsolo]

@@slim3710 under used is a term for things not over used. I think TAC is UU not OV.

[@brunoacuna4540]

I recently got into marvel 3 and this video helped me grasp how tacs work, I didn't fully get it before this (I also didn't know the directions did different things). Your channel deserves more subs.

[@destroyerofgods134]

You tryna play?

[@pochoboto]

When ppl mention the term swag in mvc3, Marlinpie always comes up he's one of the pioneers of style and swag in this game. And btw do u happen to do the nova dhc glitch to get those camera angles in game or is it through mods?

[@PapaLobster]

There is actually a mod now that allows free camera. Look up UMVC3Hook by ermaccer

[@Ikram_rudboii]

When I first saw marlin do his thing I was instantly hooked, been 10 years and I still play umvc3 and still play doom because of this man. I even have a doom Tac infinite video I uploaded inspired by marlins combos. You have a new subscriber

[@Allothersweretakenn]

Good video bro marlin doesn’t get enough recognizing I feel like. He was godlike at xrd too

[@TheMixedPlateFrequency]

I always liked watching his matches. What does Marlinpie currently do now or does he still play fighting games currently?

[@forestlaw89]

@@TheMixedPlateFrequency he plays on stream. He mainly plays fighting games.

[@Allothersweretakenn]

@@TheMixedPlateFrequency guilty gear at night, couple months back he came back to marvel and released a shit ton of high quality vids on his KZbin channel

[@TouchDirt]

Dude I remember watching him play XX back in like 07. His eddie was disgusting

[@wideawakeanimal1]

Only because he isn't as active today but back then he for sure got his recognition. People couldn't wait for Marlinpie to show up on stream.

[@Tekknight007]

Marlinpie was one of the 1st players I watched in MvC3. Back during 8 on the Break. Man was always a pioneer!

[@PracticalTAS]

Awesome video. If I can put in a topic request, I've always wanted to see a retrospective on the history of Dark Phoenix and her counterplay (Ageojoe vs FChamp, etc) in vanilla MvC3 especially.

[@PapaLobster]

OH that's a great idea actually! I'll add it to my list ❤️

[@0ni664]

as a TO for BigE events and others i just want to say your content is amazing and well paced and its cool seeing clips from events from years ago keep it sick dude !!!

[@PapaLobster]

There is a very high chance we have run into each other then haha! Went to 90% of BigE tournaments from 2012-2017ish

[@victorp647]

MarlinPie was definitely a pioneer in terms of swag. The slight against him was his lack of tournament wins. He’s one of my favorites to watch because he’s so entertaining but he wouldn’t be so underrated if he prioritized winning over the more stylish yet riskier combos

[@-8h-]

There will never be another fighter to get me as hype as watching umvc3 did.

[@hkslug80]

Third Strike comes close for me but yeah, can't beat UMVC3.

[@Ilyak1986]

GG Xrd. Strive seemed to nerf the spectator.

[@user-ci2yr4wd7o]

Guess no mvc4 possible we're stick with mvc3 for the rest of our life.

[@-8h-]

I think DNF duel has the potential with future changes and additions. Possibly project L

[@kidfazer]

Marlinpie Vs Alukard is when we first saw the TAC infinite tech. It was the at the Curleh Mustache for an exhibition.

[@diggidyyo622]

You don't get enough recognition. This channel needs more views with good content like this! Hope the algorithm blesses you soon 🙏

[@archaea2251]

so happy KZbin decided to recommend me your KBR video yesterday, otherwise I'd have missed this gem as well. definitely subbing and keeping a close eye on ya (:

[@Nemasyst45]

Another absolute BANGER of a video, even as somebody not particularly familiar with FGCs it was a great watch

[@moo422]

man, Disgruntled GOA, that's a name I haven't heard in eons.

[@Wladislav]

This is a great basic explainer for TAC infinites in general as well. Great job!

[@bloodbandittv]

Dude love the Marvel content. Would love to sse you talk about Cloud805's Dante. He was wild with that character

[@PapaLobster]

😉 You definitely will

[@itsmechriswong]

Yo I don't know if you only do just marvel vids but this was awesome. You should do a breakdown of the comeback run that Gallileo made in Blazblue all those years back at Evo - for me personally it's one of the few Anime Evo moments that really defined what the future of the anime meta of the FGC that we see today.

[@brianaragon1992]

This is some dope content. I definitely would love to seee more

[@ayashi3288]

damn bro it's really awesome to finally see someone make content for UMVC3, i've been playing and watching this game for years but there's never been any super well made content for it that covers the history of the game's meta the fingercramp videos and ect are mad nice, but people don't do it up for marvel like they do other games imo

[@darklight1030]

Love this historical perspective of marvel, please keep them coming! : )

[@sorrydudebros]

This is one of the best videos talking about the Marvel 3 meta I've seen. A shame I never got the execution to pull of a TAC infinite at all, but the innovation in combos alone displayed by MvC3 players is one of the most impressive I've seen in a fighting game (if not the best straight up)

[@nfernandez003]

Really enjoyed this video and the KBR vs Fooblat vid. Subbed hoping to see more old school umvc3 breakdowns!

[@TiberianFiend]

All these names I forgot years ago are coming flooding back as I watch your videos. I'm glad Mahvel history has a keeper.

[@Thisdoesntmatter123]

UMVC3 is my favorite fighting game. Your video does a very good job at explaining and capturing the hype.

[@NyxShakka]

up tac increases damage??? holy shit you learn something new everyday!

[@justaguy80]

a sick video discussing sick tech, keep it up man

[@DRonin]

Love your videos bro. Brings me back to the good old days of MAHVEL

[@2luu]

thank you for this video, I never understood very well how the fights work in marvel 3, this was very informative and well explained

[@paulroy6316]

nice video im playing umvc3 on 360 nowadays but im not very good its nice to learn more about tacs im getting a little hang on hitting one or two tac executions

[@s3phiroth431]

just got into this game and these vids are awesome. love it!

[@ameersher]

This is a great video, I watch alot of marvel but never understood the intricacies

[@Mr_ULTMT]

Love ur MVC3 vids. I’d love to see your thoughts on some of the old Vanilla glitches, like quicksilver for Dante.

[@thefgcsensei4482]

very nice content my guy! keep at it!

[@Krokpot7]

more videos like this please... i love this.

[@philjustyn]

Thank You! Cherishful Memories!!

[@myinbox8125]

great videos man

[@ellis7622]

Great video man, you got a new sub.

[@animaIpath]

MarlinPie literally innovated the entire tac infinite meta. always will be my favorite MvC3 player!

[@Soriichi]

Marlin Pie is even known in México

[@lastpringle8904]

It's stuff like this that gets me into fighting games I'll never be able to do something like this, but it's fun to do cool stuff in these games

[@TheMixedPlateFrequency]

Enjoyed the videos man.

[@tesuya457]

i cannot remember for the live of me what tournoment it was but there was a crasy FT15 between knives and nemo back in the day, that i would love to see covered

[@jpVari]

I LOVE this video. thank you.

[@ov3940]

i had time to finish a whole sandwich before Dooms combo ended. Not a joke. I was eating a sandwich watching this and i finished before the enemy died

[@TheodoroDML]

"You mad? Cause I'm styling on you!" always gets me lmaaoooo

[@Reignebow619]

Marlinpie was always my favorite player to watch. His Viper was insane and so stylish. A legend.

[@BakMei1003]

Good shit. Just subbed

[@dankah3834]

Great video!

[@mobgabriel1767]

"You best start believing in cutscenes in fighting games, you are in one" -marlinpie

[@nyfroggie]

finally someone putting recognition on marlin pie cause HE DEFF was swag combing folks not knowing whole time the man was 1 step away from infinites!

[@rmonsterz8303]

made me tear up like james chen rn i love the fgc just too much hype

[@skycrowned.]

Seeing my favorite game get attraction again, with a goated explanation as well, is enough to make a grown man cry.

[@AzumaRikimaru]

you mad cause im styling on you"... a meme that was lost my brain recovered

[@DasMugen]

great vid !

[@Meisterjaeger77]

Enjoy your marvel videos! Great watch

[@kway26]

Those were the times when the combo makes me go ooohhhhh!!!

[@GoodGuyGamingNY]

I witnessed the first time 🥧 pulled this out I lost it…..man this marvel series is so dope and brings back too much nostalgia these were truly the last of the golden era of fighting games…good job 🥲🥹

[@lordtikidecancer]

la primera vez que vi el combo de marlinpie de la vuelta al mundo con dr doom me voló la cabeza 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 he pasado horas intentando combos similares pero sin buenos resultados, a parte de tener una gran tenacidad , la clave es la creatividad siendo uno con el personaje, conocerlo al 1000% marlin pie es un genio que convirtió a umvc3 en una obra maestra

[@nixonszombie]

Ty for this video, I subscribed and liked off of this one.

[@ssgcheddar5785]

Me and my brother got into UMVC3 right after seeing MarlinPie Doom Tac Infinite.... it was so OD!

[@kellyd1910]

Nice vid!

[@ASDisastersama]

Very interesting history lesson and deep analysis on mechanics of umvc3. I enjoyed your video a lot. Just to clarify something that would've been worth mentioning on the video. The TAC infinite was discovered by a player named JosixOverlord with Trish as he posted it in his first video, with the easiest to perform down tac infinite. Then he uploaded a side infinite with Trish too. After his discovery his video blew up just weeks before evo 2012 so people had little time to implement the tac infinite, let alone experiment with their character. As you mentioned on the video, Sentinel was one who could use that infinite reliably (more so than trish). Since the video is already done and the algorithm did its thing, maybe you can credit him in the description. Great content overall.

[@gi1bert139]

Keep it up bro !

[@gametheoryproductions]

You mad cause I'm styling on you, bros a goat for that reference

[@PomadaGaming]

Yeah i’ve heard this guy’s execution being quite impeccable

[@jacebase]

Some analysis on usf4 matches would be cool

[@PapaLobster]

Will do! I got a few planned actually

[@woopslap]

As someone with no expefience in this game, this bideo was hella entertaining, well done.

[@Vizicsacsi113]

Amazing video

[@ronhossannah1]

great breakdown

[@Faker13]

Holy shit how have I never noticed that the directions of TAC actually have more effects on the meter etc

[@Hypno_BPM]

it was so hype when the Mics used to get cut off cuz of the loudness from the commentators and crowd

[@destroyerofgods134]

This man was ahead of his time lol

[@XtraCrispy]

Pie still have the best combo of all time!

[@ILOVEGOOOOOOLD]

everybody remembers seeing their first Marlinpie combo

[@randomizer6000]

In the words of a famous instructor; “You wanna learn how to do a fuckin’ infinite!?”

[@Playaaa808]

tac infinites can still work even if the enemy gets knocked down, hitstun scaling only resets if the player doing the combo lands without being in recovery frames. chun li tac infinite knocks and uses otg

[@jacebase]

4:20 great edit😅

[@tobsmonster2]

As someone who only started following this game in the Parsec era it really hurts my brain to see maps other than Bonne Wonderland 😅

[@DVous]

Take me back to the golden days ❤

[@runbitch55]

Can you do a video on fullschedule? U got my follow

[@franxvalley7294]

I feel asleep to this video and my parents found out that I wasn't sleeping so they beat my ass. 100/10 video would watch again

[@MSSynsyterGates]

History was made that Philly afternoon

[@fonzworthbentley7455]

It is 2022 and I just learned that Up TAC increases damage for the combo

[@ImpressleySnipes]

This doom tac is the sexiest combo I know of

[@Micha-Hil]

hey father lobster, question; is it required to play a top tier team to compete in mahvel 3 (or even mahvel 2)? I've been thinking about genuinely playing and learning the game for a while, but it's difficult to choose my characters when there's so many options

[@nathanl8769]

Marvel 2 you'll get rocked. Marvel 3 you can compete but you're going to have a tough time vs top tiers. Usual stuff with lower tier characters

[@supercoolfacething]

MvC3 basically every character can have some ridiculous niche use. Except for Hsien-ko. Nobody has figured out what to do with Hsien-ko

[@Universalbeing0]

Man, I miss those moments...

[@Rawkit_Surgeon]

I don't even play fighting games. I just love the story behind the meta of any game.

[@Hecatom]

Fun fact, the TAC infinite glitch and some other glitches that are now used at high level play were 1st discovered/documented by AgeJoe/Kusoru. He uploaded a video on youtube/nico nico explaining them, and that video was submitted to the SRK staf that ran the front page, so they posted an article with the translation. How do I know? I was the one that provided the link to SRK since I followed him for his GG videos and at the time I thought it could be interesting for tech (little did I know it would be the tech, lol), so I contacted d3v on the forums since he was part of the staff/mod team. This was even before Marlinpie's showcase of the glitch. I don't know if Marlinpie learned about the glitch all by himself, or he learned it from SRK (he was active on SRK at the time) or due Kusoru (he already followed him at the time, since he is a GG player before playing mvc3), but I know if it was the later, he expanded on it, since when Kusoru showcaded it, he showed some infinite combos with Sentinel and I think Doom?

[@SPMask]

Since 2011, Why am I now only finding out about this?

[@Yawdan]

Good video. Great channel. Subscribed (127th) Few things- *NO ONE* says 'tac'. It's T-A-C. *Doomface* come up with the Doom TAC tech. Marlinpie combined other tech and his own innovations to add his style to (and optimise) it. *The first TAC infinite was discovered with Trish (I've forgotten who by). _LiquidMetal_ then discovered a Magneto infinite. Then the community began discovering ways to perform TAC infinites with the cast.

[@Tombos]

The Trish video that started it all kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYmUmKeGf69rkKc.

[@ericalasagna]

I have never heard anyone spell out TAC, it's literally more of a mouthful to do that, but okay

[@Yawdan]

@@ericalasagna then you're new to Umvc3, a *game that's 11 years old. Go watch a professional match; TNS (Tampa Never Sleeps) have weeklies.

[@dreadpiratekiel]

El Gato had a large hand in this tech as well

[@Yawdan]

@@dreadpiratekiel the OG

[@TechnoL33T]

This is absolute peak of rock paper scissors!

[@GranValor97]

Evo 2017 Pools Readman vs Jibrill is one of my favorite humilliations in UMvC3 history. Feel bad for the guy because he CRIES! But the Yipes commentary is GOLD 😂

[@KoICExX]

I've always LOVED to watch this guy's gameplay..... When's Marvel though -.-'

[@PomadaGaming]

0:28 lmao this combo. Fuckin first hit of l rocks into lv3 that is insane💀

[@PomadaGaming]

0:55 yes 1:13 yeh 1:31 oh yeah i heard of these things just recently,really weird lol 2:12 yeah insane 2:35 ig so 2:58 golly 3:20 yeah 3:34 it’s not easy 3:48 oh boy sentinel mid 4:24 doom? I hear he has one of the best ones 5:23 alright 5:41 it does? 6:04 golly 6:22 gotcha 6:31 uh huh 6:45 yeah interesting That was infact cool

[@Skrullian]

Sentinel TAC only on corner? I can do it wherever i want haha what are u talking about? 😭💔

[@JawsFG_]

A question out of curiosity: how did people figure out that the hitstun decay is non existent after a succesful TAC? Did somebody lopked into the the hardcode of the game? Or did peopel just trial&error in the lab? Or even something xompletely different?

[@PapaLobster]

Almost completely trial and error actually!

[@Trivedi_Tuesdays]

I swear ppl who say MvCi had no idea the hype and atmosphere of umvc3. Ty for the video.

[@mastacj1400]

Long live Marvel! Busted, but fun as hell!