Yes…UMvC3 is ALSO BROKEN

[@voltaicthief646]

“This game’s being played at EVO 2023 and it’s still an unbalanced mess!” - Lythero

[@djoshawott2850]

Even today, those notes are still blank.

[@Flinch9000]

“We’ve gotta play our best!” “Won’t do any good. I’ve seen this before.” “*You’ve seen this before?!” “11 times, as a matter of fact.” “What do we do, Cap?!” *WE’RE BONED!* (all scream in fear)

[@TyRiders2]

WE GOTTA PLAY OUR BEST!!

[@tiberian_son21]

That’s the Marvel I remember. This game was played for money.

[@ItsTheShiki]

"WE'RE BONED"

[@MrMysteryreviewer]

If it wasn't broken, it wouldn't be Marvel!

[@TheBrianJ]

Marvel 3 is a massive, unbalanced, broken mess. And we wouldn't want it any other way.

[@Ash0512]

It makes it more fun honestly

[@GigaMan91]

It's not just fun because it's unbalanced. It's fun because the unbalanced stuff is fun to do!

[@saloz9483]

@@Ash0512 to see maybe but not to actually play humans is a different story.

[@BIGNOSEPOPPA]

Type it in all caps next time. MARVEL VS CAPCOM FOREVER!!!!!!

[@GChezlynD]

"Capcom, whos your favorite character?" Capcom:: Vergil. "Can we expect a new MVC? CVS? Capcom:: Vergil. "How many units must MVC Arcade Collections sell to be considered as success?" Capcom: ... Vergil.

[@fishnewt1331]

“Okay. And who is accompanying Vergil’s date tonight.” Capcom: “Not from our side.” “Oh. A Marvel guest. Who might they be?” Marvel: “Phoenix.” Jean: “DARK PHOENIX RISES!!!” Marvel: “…….she’s had a rough day.”

[@lindenwong5393]

"Ha ha ha, I don't NEED to know how to play this character!"

[@id_prox]

Game gives you dirt, water, and a .44 magnum

[@UnknownX9990]

One name, Vergil.

[@leonardchurch814]

Lore accurate

[@Ash0512]

And Zero

[@beanman9936]

Another name, Phoenix

[@TokenCast]

~I'M ON THE TIER THAT IS ABOVE AAAAA!~

[@Countsmegula]

We don't talk about EVO '23 Grand Finals. Or '19, '18, '16, '13 and nearly '14. You know, I'm starting to think this guy's why we don't see many big competitions of this game anymore because of him and his garden lawn chair having ass.

[@Carlet_S]

worth mentioning Strider has his own version of spiral swords but it costs him 3 bars because he's just not Vergil

[@ajch22]

Not only that, his ouruboros is not half as versatile as Vergil's spiral swords when it comes to combos.

[@ApexGale]

​@@ajch22 its not really there to be used for combos though, it exists for you to effectively chip the enemy down with x factor

[@ajch22]

@@ApexGale I don't think a level 3 special's purpose is to lock down an enemy for chip damage with a resource not exclusive to the character. It is more of a "It is not good for anything else" kinda scenario, they were kinda afraid Ouroboros would be as oppressing as in MVC2 that they over nerfed it.

[@Bloodlyshiva]

That change was a direct reaction to MVC1 and 2, where it DID cost 1 bar.

[@KTG690]

"Fucking Vergil". The Truest Quote in existence.

[@justintaylor8701]

The best part was almost the entire roster could do something obscene, and we're still finding stuff to this day.

[@paulakroy2635]

Trish has insane untapped tech

[@MaroxXIIIproductions]

Well...except Hsien-ko. Because she's Hsien-ko.

[@hotzauhse]

She still has dirt tho​@@MaroxXIIIproductions

[@ausgamecollector]

@@MaroxXIIIproductionsNot true, her DP move trumps lariat…

[@paulakroy2635]

@@MaroxXIIIproductions gold armor

[@ApexGale]

two lines you never wanna hear in umvc3: "i need more power!" and "I can't control it!"

[@tarantulahank8537]

"I got all I need!"?

[@ApexGale]

@@tarantulahank8537 that's assuming you ever play against phoenix wrights though

[@tarantulahank8537]

still a line you don't really wanna hear :)

[@ShinStriderHiryu]

dont forget the '' LEAVE HULK ALONE ''

[@DragonaxFilms]

Every now and then, I rewatch the Vergil 1v3 clip where the guy loses Dante and Wesker right out the gate, then immediately cleans house with Vergil in 19 seconds.

[@Striderthedripper_]

I know which video you’re talking about from. Such a bad ass comeback

[@phantombroker6856]

Link me that shit

[@hyliandoctor]

Imma need to see this. You got the link?

[@DragonaxFilms]

@@hyliandoctor Can't post the link cuz KZbin doesn't like that, but the video is titled "UMVC3 - Vergil Is The Most Godlike Fighting Game Character Of All Time", uploaded by "Xuses" 👌

[@hyliandoctor]

@@DragonaxFilms fair enough.

[@sunkistwaves]

Swiss Cheese is a bad move, but it’s a lifesaver against my biggest matchup which is Haggar’s wonky aerial hitboxes. Once I do Swiss Cheese it cuts em out and they don’t know what to do

[@SilkyLew]

I hate Swiss cheese so much, because I'm a button masher😂😂

[@Violent_Wolfen]

Wolverine still shouldn't have lost projectile invincibility with Berserker Slash that would have stopped a lot of bullshit.

[@ApexGale]

wolverine getting nerfed in a game that released with some of the most disgusting characters ever was a massive headscratcher.

[@Cronalixz]

@@ApexGale Not really when you consider that they were probably considering "power level" or some BS like that

[@cianholzhuter1048]

Agreed. Swiss cheese makes the bots tweak put though I've won matches offline simply by spamming Swiss cheese 😂😂

[@ExceedRed]

I don’t think the modern FGC is ready for MVC4 to release with a lore accurate DMC 5 Vergil and he’s absolutely broken

[@GarethXL]

bruh mordern FGC can't even handle DNF you think they can handle a tag game?

[@eoretaspace]

"Vergil ate some bad pizza before entering MVC4 tournament so he is not his 100% power" - Capcom

[@Striderthedripper_]

Bruh if Vergil makes it to UMVC4 with his dmc5 move set you better pray you last a min against him

[@illford]

​@@GarethXLyes

[@illford]

​@@GarethXLtag game isn't that crazy but people are also pretty excited for the two new tag fighters coming out and people did like DBFZ when it came out.

[@ezelalia5739]

Universal rule: If Zero and Vergil exist on a game, they will be broken

[@Nomadic_Gaming]

literally rule of cool characters sorta like how ghost blade plays in dnf

[@Slappaccino]

Sometimes literally in Zero's case.

[@Dark_Slayer77]

funny because Zero and Nero have the same voice actor like father like son I guess

[@Nomadic_Gaming]

@@Dark_Slayer77 TRUE

[@Xfushion2]

9:32 Vergil is neither broken nor lore accuarate. He's _motivated_

[@reawakeneddemon6478]

9:10 What's funny is that Vergil also got a mod where he gets his DMC 5 moveset and it's so broken even for this game 💀💀

[@Daywalker78]

The thing I love most about that vid, is that it's roughly 10 minutes long, and HALF of the vid is just about Vergil, says a lot.

[@paulakroy2635]

You could make a 20 minute section on morrigan

[@Daywalker78]

@@paulakroy2635 Truth, I hate her the most

[@Striderthedripper_]

You gotta love Vergil being added to special edition games just to show how fun and busted he is

[@Levi_Skardsen]

One of my favourite Evo moments is Justin beating Chris G's ridiculously oppressive Morrigan/Doom/Vergil without much issue. He completely downloaded him.

[@kamenrangerzeo8251]

6:09 Virgil: “I am gonna bury the light of UMVC3.” Max: “Not if I can help it dood.” 3:13 Deadpool: “Actually, this is my jam here Maximilian. X-FACTOR FOR THE WIN BABY!”

[@General_C]

UMVC3's broken, the sky's blue, tell me something I DON'T know!

[@gameboyadvancedsp6727]

Sonic The Hedgehog appears in Gran Turismo 6 in the track Fuji Speedway.

[@ButterStick64]

A ball made entirely of steel will bounce higher than a ball made entirely of glass.

[@skyeschlueter9877]

​@@gameboyadvancedsp6727Wow. Yup, that'll do it.

[@Bloodlyshiva]

True, but there are and will be people who didn't live through it.

[@rchoung34]

Every time i hear Spencer scream "BIONIC ARM," all I can hear is Max screaming "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT" lmao

[@kaiser8773]

To be fair... This is an Eighting Game...

[@beanman9936]

The much more broken counterpart to the Fighting Game

[@yepimhere5413]

8ing also codeveloped Pikmin 4 and that game is super polished

[@BlackBloodCombatClub]

8

[@Da_Spicy]

And a great man once said Eighting games is something so great

[@crisgeraldperez7]

The same bastards who made Fate/Unlimited Codes and Kamen Rider: Super Climax Heroes

[@aesiro13]

As a certain badger once said: "I am convinced 49 characters in this game suck because 49 characters are not named Vergil." Also, if you ever get the chance, I'd like to see you do a Rate The Super of Pokken Tournament, or if you're ok with it, maybe even run a few sets with your viewers in a live stream. Stay safe :)

[@kaiser9321]

X Factor is one thing…and some characters…and you know…

[@melvinshine9841]

"Did you say Vergil?!" *evil laughter* "I don't need to know how to play this character!" On a somewhat related note, Phoenix might be the best example ever of how low health doesn't always balance a character. You look at Phoenix too hard and she dies, but Lv.3 X-Factor Dark Phoenix can sweep a team before X-Factor runs out.

[@slick8582]

Yeah phoenix can die in one combo, but get a hit on her before she burns your team into ashes is the real challenge

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

Meanwhile, Phoenix has to work for the power of "temporarily becoming one of the best characters in the game" while being kinda bad otherwise.

[@brayenmorrison3199]

Why Yes, Of Course.

[@joelimitsuandyoshi]

I don't care that it's broken. The Brokenness is what makes UMVC3 Charming

[@eoretaspace]

Thats why its so satisfying to see non "top tier" characters beat vergil in tournaments

[@HURT108]

that's a charm with fighting games in general, especially when you win with an underdog character

[@DocBlue005]

Charming? you call broken games charming.... No, it's called a bad game. Now notice I said bad. it's a fun game but a Competitive game....well calling it Competitive is a bit of a stretch

[@Pentagram619]

the MvC news has gotten Max so energetic

[@TheRogueWolf]

I guess you could say he's... motivated.

[@LightsJusticeZ]

He needs more QUANTUM power!

[@explodedglue5509]

I see what you did there

[@prof.laytonfan764]

I realized that the reason Vergil is so broken is similar to why Bayonetta was so broken in Smash 4. It’s because the designers made him way too similar to the source material, making him a combo machine with insane attacks,

[@paulakroy2635]

Vergil is no where near as good as bayonetta. He’s not even top 3 best character

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

@@paulakroy2635 To be fair, Virgil has such insane versatility compared to Bayonetta, and the difference in power level between him and the bottom tier is far more drastic than Bayo and Smash 4's bottom tiers

[@paulakroy2635]

@@LloydTheZephyrian no the bottom tiers in 4 are completely unviable. The bottoms in umvc3 are very fringe. PZpoy plays hsien-ko for example

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

@@paulakroy2635 You still had Jigglypuff players in Smash 4 despite her being bottom 1, though she was also a fringe-case character. The other 3 in the bottom-most tier still had some semblance of representation before Ultimate came around and stole basically all of its playerbase. Even so, I'd argue that Virgil is more powerful than UMvC3's bottom tiers than Bayonetta is to Smash 4's bottom tiers.

[@paulakroy2635]

@@LloydTheZephyrian PZpoy beat top players with hsien-ko and abegan plays a dogshit team but has decent resultsx

[@DualitySmith]

0:33 jojo reference

[@CodeXCDM]

1:41 Foot Dive! Foot Dive! I'm sooo top tier!

[@MauZangetsu]

As Raúl Julia as Bison said once: OF COURSE!!

[@lrgamerslayer]

To be fair Vergil Deserves to be broken more than anyone

[@Striderthedripper_]

His feats is insane . If he makes it to UMVC4 with his dmc5 move set then ggs

[@1stCallipostle]

Eh. Not really. It's incredible how a man with such abilities still has the personality of a kid you'd bully for lunch money. Absolute dweebazoid. Cannot be taken seriously

[@bobsapdagger]

Can any character be overpowered if everyone is overpowered? Yes, actually

[@paulakroy2635]

Umvc3 gives characters unique ways of being broken

[@DocBlue005]

And when all characters are OP, it's called A BROKEN 4SS GAME

[@deathbringer9893]

5:05 I see the morrigan and spiderman combo going hard

[@Punkstr]

proof that a fighting game doesnt have to be even close to balanced to be an all time great. just needs to be a mechanically deep game that looks good and is fun to play

[@deathscythe9158]

Virgil is so busted that Max obliterated SNK Galactus with him. 😂😂😂

[@scottyj8655]

It's funny because he's not even the most busted character in the game

[@deathscythe9158]

@@scottyj8655 Really, Who’s the most busted one?

[@THE_BASED_GOD]

@@deathscythe9158 I assume they're gonna say zero

[@AmotivatedIndividual]

Not busted but Motivated

[@lootrat1337]

Nah,he’s just lore accurate.

[@Senketsujin]

It's funny that Dante was lore accurate in vanilla lol

[@atamisirli3620]

oh i see that he is reacting to "Vergil in MvC3 is broken" video.

[@pokemaster2185]

Amazing that they included a nod to the Daigo parry at the end.

[@swanky2202]

When everyone and everything is broken, it's balanced.

[@charlieharrington9555]

I love this game but it’s the farthest thing from balanced

[@THE_BASED_GOD]

@@charlieharrington9555 "Balanced" marvel 3 might be fun depending on how its done, but the broken shit is what makes it hype.

[@WutTheDeuceGaming]

dumb and untrue statement.

[@anispidey]

I don't know about that 😅

[@paulakroy2635]

⁠@@charlieharrington9555it’s balanced for a game with zero patches. PZpoy plays fucking hsien-ko and makes it work

[@Xzeihoranth]

Vergil is V-Tier.

[@The0KUltra]

They needed to talk about Zero May Cry and Team Trench Coat

[@GenerallDRK]

My BIGGEST Hopium after they show us the Collection trailer again with a release date is to end it with a black screen with a special effect transition showing #/MvC4 🤞🏼😭🤞🏼.

[@SuperFusionAJ93]

6:08 Max: oh no... Me: OH YEAH!

[@elgordobondiola]

Also, dark angel is an otg. You can do whatever combo you want and finish it with the most hurty hiper in the game

[@TheSuperSmashBros01]

Ultimate Marvel 3 is a frustrating broken and unforgiving title and yet… I love this game, it’s easily one of my favorite fighting games ever made. The more you play practice and realize your tiniest of mistakes the game is stupidly rewarding. There is NO shortage of creativity and fun here. Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 is beautiful, fast has one of the best rosters for a Capcom fighting game in my opinion, and gives you so many tools to work with and experimentation for days that make it not just enjoyable to play but just fun to talk about.

[@RockyLobster25]

Vergil is like a MUGEN character...

[@exaltedb]

UMvC3 is like MUGEN in itself

[@discmanthecdlord]

​@@exaltedb ironic since the modding community may as well make it a new mugen

[@monster25man]

one last video to watch, the Marvel vs Capcom 2 is Broken video

[@multiverseguy1239]

Infinite Graveyard!

[@The_Ultimate_Faker]

getting your shit rocked by an x factor vergil or dark phoenix is a canon event

[@bfeldz1023]

UMVC3 is the ultimate counterexample for Syndrome's thesis about being super. Everyone is super (except Nemesis) yet it does not make them feel "not super." They're all busted and they feel busted and I wouldn't want it any other way.

[@ogahpuro]

"When in doubt, BIONIC AAAAAAAAARM"

[@kelvinguzman7344]

wouldn't be shocked if in some way vergil was created as a way to get back at marvel characters for taking the top tier spots in previous games

[@Darkkent83]

X factor isn't just a comeback mechanic though.

[@deltaprime3509]

Looking forward to your marvel vs Capcom legacy videos for the build up to the release of MVC COLLECTION.

[@Big_Man_Enjoyer]

As someone who knows very little about MVC I can’t believe they decided Wolverine saying “Swiss cheese” over and over would work holy smokes

[@JohnnyM4all]

Zero May Cry mirror Evo 2023, Grand Finals speedrun. I watched it live and the chat was pretty pissed.

[@paulakroy2635]

I mean Jbrill and Evasion grinded hard. But liberal terminator is considered top 3 player and he is playing nova Spencer doom

[@Zanryuuga]

There is an entire segment to Vergil. Perfect.

[@petulantpeterturbo]

"It's still blank Joe..." -Deadpool, courtesy of Lythero

[@Waheeeey]

Spencer being called a POS immediately followed by Astral Plane Morrigan is so funny

[@crownlotus6007]

I been playing TvC recently and all I could think about is how Vergil just has alot of karas normal which makes me curious of who’s more broken between arcade TvC karas and Vergil

[@Araknidz]

6:07 He is the storm that is approaching

[@TheHeartlessAlchemist]

Jam session is Captain Corridor on steroids.

[@JayBee20022]

The night I stuffed bionic arm with caps level 3 against a friend of mine that was notorious for always robbing a match with it was peak cinema

[@eoretaspace]

Ahhh finally we get to review this legendary video on this channel MVC3 credits theme is what bittersweet nostalgia feels like in audio form

[@RashaunEatOreos]

Shouts to Zak Bennet for the firebrand tech Apology man stole it

[@gtsgreatteacherscathach5550]

Is Vergil really considered broken if he's just lore accurate?

[@shadowednight1600]

Modders make the most amazing characters and Vergil outclasses them Man, did Capcom make a monster of a character

[@paulakroy2635]

Urienen is more broken than vergil could ever dream

[@xerospades]

​@@paulakroy2635Stick to Street fighter.

[@justinwilliams7148]

I remember seeing the absolute soul drain out of Max getting infinite "See ya later!" by Spiderman

[@ZappBranniglenn]

My favorite part of this video is the fade to black and "...oh right! We haven't even talked about Vergil!"

[@akumacode]

one of my favorite things about watching MVC3 is seeing all the crazy broken shit people do

[@Saxdude26]

The SECOND the DMC footagr started playing I could just hear rent free in my head Lythero just going "OHOHOHO I DON'T EVEN NEED TO KNOW HOW TO PLAY THIS CHARACTER!" Vergil's broken nature is infamous even outside the playerbase. Getting completely ground into fine dust while Johnny Young Bosch gives you verbal trauma every time he attacks... it is iconic, and terrifying

[@surft]

Makes you wonder how JWong was able to win EVO in winners bracket the whole time with his team composition ( storm, wolvie, akuma) against all the damn top tier using competition.

[@TheNightofWalpurgis666]

As Xuses said about Vergil. “This man’s a god”

[@Striderthedripper_]

And he was right about it

[@Carnax6969]

Ah, the days of SF4 and MvC3. A time where I was hyped to play fighting games, Max was doing Assist Me, and weekly eps of Excellent Adventures. 'Twas a beautiful time.

[@killerb255]

This is why we have Zero May Cry mirrors in tournaments.

[@MrPWN96]

Vergil isn't over-powered...he's lore-accurate

[@picoriboi9099]

I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING!

[@saunterrrr]

Was always funny hearing the community speculate who was the most "braindead"

[@blizz44]

FOOT DIVE

[@Cornin33]

That video is what got me into fighting games and MVC3

[@TheOneBearded]

Vergil continues the streak of being the coolest addition to any game he's in.

[@MrAkimboKing]

Holy shit dood vergil is extremely broken my gawd

[@ArcienPlaysGames]

Vergil's Level 1 is still so damn satisfying in every single aspect (except when you get hit by it)

[@Sai1523]

We’re acting like Vergil shouldn’t be OP in every game he’s in

[@SliceLeedice]

I mean come on, it's already somewhat nerfed for a lore accurate Vergil.

[@FalcomTreya]

The funniest thing about mvc games will always be one simple phrase: "People play this game for money"

[@DeamonChocobo]

It still kills me that Vergil & Nero are both voiced by former Power Rangers.

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

9:21 and the twisted part is... dmc5 vergil exists for umvc3

[@silentfox139]

I never noticed Vergil brings out another sword for some of his attacks

[@kevinfranks8439]

Level 3 X-Factor was absolute cancer imo

[@lugo012685]

Marvel vs Capcom 2 Video Idea: If you were going to Patch MvsC 2 who would you nerf and buff

[@SullySadface]

I like how he chose to elaborate on Dark Phoenix, rather than just saying "Dark Phoenix" which is also acceptable

[@charlieprince8671]

Glitches aside it's impossible to have a game like this without it being broken because of the sheer number of variables to balance. It's not just balancing character vs character but you'd have to balance every combination vs every combination and you just can't.

[@Triggerhappy938]

UMVC3 really needed like one more year of patch support. It never needed to be perfectly balanced but I feel like more of the cast should be viable.

[@tsuneomccormick115]

Can't wait for him to react to the MVC 2 is broken video, which is like half an hour long and the uploaded did a spin off video to showcase Roll.

[@JFalcon11gaming]

I love UMVC3, honestly when this game came out. I never stop playing it! Even if my friend picks Vergil all the time, I'll always find a way to beat it with a Haggar, Wolverine, or Spider-Man! Glad Marvel vs. Capcom is back! I'm excited for the fighting collection!

[@soulix9476]

All the assist me stuff you did years ago is why I love mvc3 as much as I do thank you

[@alyasVictorio]

There's another way to fix broken roster balance: Make the entire roster as equally fair but unique as their playstyle can, that way their good player skill will be a key enough to counter the said "roster balance" issue Just look at Dota 2, anime 2d fighting games, Honor of Kings, etc Edit: One more thing, what I mean is this is not the other way around like where one broken kit/ability/interaction is limited to only one or few characters that the rests haven't (like TAC Infinites, broken frames, Phoenix with X Factor, and of course, Vergil himself) Edit 2: If you read this comment this far, specially this video too, remember to go to description and check the video we and Max reacts

[@waverazor]

I didn't think umvc3 needed explaining