The Temple of Bhaal | Baldur's Gate 3 [Part 54]

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[@DijiEva]

MapoGnome: "I killed the murder tribunal" Fancy Bhaal Door: "I'm sorry I didn't know you were cool like that, plz enter"

[@sloporion]

2:21:23 You absolutely can find this out, and she freaks out when she hears about it. It's fantastic.

[@BySpartan]

1:18:16 My favorite banter "HEHHH PLEASURE DOMES...."

[@basseon]

I like watching you play BG3. At this stage of the game I'm often thinking "Mapo, time to start using your Elixirs, potions and weapon coating!". But there's no rule on how to play BG3, as in D&D, the only rule is to have fun. (alltough I'm sure Astarion would use poison). *Edit : Oh you used Elixirs, great!!!!

[@shadow14613]

1:21:26 “No, no, no! That’s all wrong! Don’t just flop the entrails over the arches like some bumbling buffoon! The entrails must flow like blood through veins…” - Bhaalist Decorator

[@dsilvermane0]

Oh, that's significantly less hot... 🤣

[@Tarkemelhion35]

didnt realise mapo was so weak.... v.v

[@kristam2819]

Btw you can stop concentrating on a spell from bottom left under the circular character pic, there is a little icon for concentration spells with an x to cancel them. Noticed you sometimes waiting them out so wanted to point it out :)

[@kipgrey1267]

The most clutch persuasion roll of the entire playthrough! And winning the fight on your first try, that was just spectacular top to bottom!

[@mclouj]

Yeh it was a bloody ripper. I thought Laezel was a goner.

[@Theorak]

You will laugh when I tell you there are arrows that repels people even in sanctuary (Arrow of Roaring Thunder), and you have got 19 of them. Orin almost got you there, but you figured it out :D.

[@Sellinglobs]

1:41:15 I loved the little giggle when you realised how ridiculous it would be if the huge statue that gives a divine boon had an off switch like it was a light bulb lmao. Really though I thought the exact same when it did that

[@ZXaria]

EIGHTY camp supplies of only alcohol is actually mad I suppose fate is just telling you to stall for the Drunken monk!

[@acfan1988]

49:35 one of the Tav male voices does actually do his own playthrough of BG3. I think his channel or videos are called “Tav and Dav” or something like that

[@hekatebleble4800]

Same for Neil Roberts, Tav 5, mostly known as the default Dark Urge voice (he's the one who performs the fantastic character introduction). His playthrough (still ongoing) is very entertaining and extremely chaotic.

[@ladnil]

Nice job on the Orin fight! That's the one that made me blow my Divine Intervention in my first run. Real easy to lose people in a single turn.

[@conradoccaminha]

Dude you broke the n 1 rule of the divine family relationships: "Do not talk about divine family relationships" (because they are always fucked up)

[@timothyparker3406]

Today is Christmas White Elephant day at work so instead of a 30 min lunch break we get an hour so I'll be sure to watch more during break.

[@scrims83]

Just look up the Orin death cutscene - she still turns into a goo pile but it’s just a nice touch lol

[@ErinHaHaHA]

If I remember there is a brief cutscene when you defeat Orin, maybe Otto's Dance prevented it from triggering? I've had that happen using restraining effects with some other characters. Great episode!

[@Mapocolops]

You skipped so far ahead 😢

[@yanverb7673]

It was because he looted her corpse, while in combat. There are a lot of scripts that don't work if you do that, like with Nere's head cutscene.

[@Mapocolops]

I don't think so, considering it was already a corpse pile. not really able to have a good cutscene with a pile of guts

[@RevanTheRebel]

@@Mapocolopsa cutscene, not a conversation lmao

[@Mapocolops]

@@RevanTheRebel Narrator “you look upon a pile of guts” Astarion “she’s never looked better I’ll say” Lae’zel “too bad I didn’t get a chance to smite her myself…tsk’va”

[@AyaWetts]

everyone takes falling damage... Gale thinks... "I wonder why I didn't use feather fall..." lol

[@The_Nightsong]

I'm sorry, but your reactions in this episode had me laughing 😆😆😆

[@annina134]

Yay! A new BG3 video!! 😄 I hope you get Lae'zel back!! 😄 Just started watching this one. Hi from snowy Finland!

[@nickrubin7312]

Descent into Temple of Bhaal and Undercity as a whole is probably one of my favorite locations flavor wise. And I like self-aware writing for SH banter in here, they clearly knew what they were designing and having a laugh at it a bit. No one among Bhaalists even remotely close to sane, like they are all perfectly unhinged. I honestly think that they would kind of appreciate being wiped out, that would really embrace it ;) Cool thing that you found that interaction with Orin's mother. There is also Sarevok's diary somewhere in the murder tribunal location, explaining their weird "family tree". There is actually a lot to unpack here it terms of what makes a "child of Bhaal" in a first place, but when you figure everything out, it would make perfect sense. The answer to your question 2:21:19, and I presume it is an actual question, is yes, you could talk with Helena first, and there would be a specific dialogue for that with Orin, in fact, you don't have to pass the check if you talk to Helena first ;) There is different design for dialogue trees for Jaheira and Minsc when they might (not necessarily must) have something new behind those options that go "I want to ask you something" and "I want to know more about you" or however it goes for Minsc. Same like only SH has "how do you I fare to your estimations" or something. Simply because different character writers add something different and just approach companion interaction differently. In fact, if you look what other character has option "how I'm holding up to your estimations" (wink-wink it is Halsin), that would answer all your questions lol (or Halsin might be just that one cheeky druid who is always like "yeah, Shadowheart is right, what she said") Smallest suggestion about Kereska's Favour, it is better cast at the "start of the day", since it lasts for the whole day. You won't regret it, fits frost wizard Gale nicely.

[@jemaselite8076]

I always use heroes feast after I finish a long rest, lasts the entire day and gives really good buffs to the entire team

[@nickrubin7312]

@@jemaselite8076 - Heroes Feast. And then I use Spellcrux Amulet to restore Cleric's spell slot. I'll admit I'm too lazy to use a companion that isn't in the party. For faster usage of items for specific spells I put them on custom panel next to the item that I will switch after usage, if default amulet is Amulet of Healing, then next to it in cells I put Speak with Dead, Spellcrux Amulet and so on - click to switch, use a spell, click to switch back to default, without using inventory - upcast Aid - upcast Longstrider just for multiple targets in the party, cause too lazy to cast every single companion (cause ritual spell, doesn't expend a spell slot) that's basically citizen's morning routine in the Baldur's Gate lmao

[@nickrubin7312]

@@jemaselite8076 heroes feast, aid, longstrider, speak with animals -> ready to go save the day

[@SaltedFishero]

I was wondering if you would recognize the Dragonborn. Also, I think with different questions for the mother you come to a clearer conclusion (At least I remember I did?). Great fight, and episode!

[@ragenaros4475]

U r forgeting to Turn Gale Staff on, that spell it has is Permanent and whole point of staff buff

[@luminemo]

The battle with Orin went so well, congrats! It's not an easy one but Mapo did it

[@velly7535]

Go back to Sarevoks "office" and take a second look.

[@velly7535]

31:32 Gale has AC 14. That is very low. You can give him Mage Armour and a shield, so he gets a much higher AC.

[@velly7535]

And the robe from the tower is much stronger 😊

[@spenceregerton5268]

2:30:02 This shit made me laugh way too hard. I started humming along too.

[@margisama]

More like Sarevok likes to keep it in the family moreso than Bhaal. >_>; As to Orin not being a 'pure' Bhaalspawn (like Sarevok was), Sarevok had his daughter, Helena, and then had Orin with her, so she's Bhaal's grand-daughter by blood and thus not 'pure'. She didn't know she was the product of incest so if you find that out (and the fact that Sarevok told Helena to kill her) she has an epic freak-out to the point that Bhaal forcibly turns her into the slayer form rather than it being willing on her part if she doesn't find out.

[@MuntiOfTheAsh]

Mapo seems to forget (or not realizing to begin with), that Astarian has the speak with dead ability from the book of Thay. no need for the medallion.

[@luoing]

This might already have been mentioned, but Shadowheart and Halsin have the same writer if that answers any questions 😉

[@SrGwynnbleid]

I don't think it does. Honestly it just looks like an oversight. No way they knew about this and just thought 'hmm i think it's good enough nobody will notice'

[@thatguycaz]

Uh oh. A lot of things can happen here..

[@Heleyrine]

Fun fact! The door of Bhaal's Temple is voiced by Jenny Funnell who you've heard in Dark Souls 1 and 3 as Quelana of Izalith and Karla!

[@chrisdiokno5600]

Never knew that

[@KEVROREACTS]

The amount of players who manually search for items in their bag instead of just typing it at the top kills me lol. Would cut 2-5 mins of searching out

[@AceofSpades0725]

Me on my 6th playthrough realizing there's a search feature: 😬

[@KEVROREACTS]

@@AceofSpades0725 baha, they do seem to make it something to find that's for sure.

[@LLlap]

@@AceofSpades0725 you can combo Search with Filters and then Sort. it has it all.

[@AyaWetts]

yeah, I don't organize anything, just let it be a mess. Can search by name, or just show all potions, scrolls, etc... saves so much time

[@nickrubin7312]

@@AyaWetts even if you organize, search works for nested items as well (it searches in the bags)

[@acfan1988]

2:25:23 Sarevok is Orin’s grandfather AND father. Meaning exactly what you would think it means. As Helena said “Orin loved her grandfather… and so did I” Also, the white dead Dragonborn is Dark Urge

[@velly7535]

Pls no spoilers 😶

[@nickrubin7312]

spoilers after "Also"

[@AlmostYearly]

Great job, shame Orin monster didn't boogie more. The first fight of the video can go so many ways, I've had four totally different scenarios including a classic Benny Hill chase.

[@SirCharles12357]

Great job on the Orin fight!! You're playing this game right. I rushed through to much and didn't take the time to relish all the nuances.

[@basseon]

Arrows of Roaring Thunder!!!!

[@jemaselite8076]

Oof, haven't watched the vid yet but I'm just praying you passed the persuasion check already haha

[@nickrubin7312]

for non-CHA based character he built pretty well to have all sorts of different bonuses to mitigate that players who often complain about non-CHA being tough to do checks and thus boring/impossible to bypass fights might really learn something from the approach he has taken

[@LatashaMorra]

Another good video

[@echobucket]

BTW you are flying through Act III, I'm surprised you haven't gotten too distracted by all the tiny things in the city.

[@annina134]

I did the globe of invulnerable too in the Orin fight and it was frustrating when Orin came in the globe.. 😅🤣

[@lavabeard5939]

dc 18 religion check to identify the bhaalist door in the obvious bhaalist temple

[@grapeape325]

20,000 gold mapo? That's some fine looting!

[@jemaselite8076]

I'm fairly certain he still has the 10k from the counting house that he may or may not return lol

[@grapeape325]

@jemaselite8076 that's right, he still has the 10k.

[@iamboringvideos6832]

The Orin fight used to be way easier, like stupidly easy, more so on classes that can do high damage each attack. but I find it weird the cutscene that was supposed to happen didn't happen

[@nickrubin7312]

literally no mechanics were changed in this fight, unless we are talking Honor Mode which makes this fight, especially if you go blind, just wild experience

[@iamboringvideos6832]

@nickrubin7312 weird because i could of sworn the fight as really easy the first two times i did it alone on normal mode last year but when i was in co-op doing the fight, i think some update made the fight harder, so i couldnt just smite orin to death.

[@nickrubin7312]

@@iamboringvideos6832 he is on tactician, nah, outside of HM, the fight is the same mechanically and difficulty wise, they didn't change a thing (boon always gives unstoppable, bhaalists always perform a ritual with sanctuary on them, Orin makes same moves with jumping to make prone, multiattacks and all that)

[@iamboringvideos6832]

@@nickrubin7312 i know he is, still i remember It being a lot easier, at least before my co-op run, but I guess its due to a lot of Divine smite which does a lot of damage per hit, only takes a few minutes max to take her down, but yet again I only ever did play on normal (I'm no DnD pro)

[@nickrubin7312]

@@iamboringvideos6832 smites will do that :), there is a brute force approach through all the "unstoppable" stacks, and the long approach with stopping the ritual and stopping her getting stacks, if you don't have enough burst damage plus tools to remove unstoppable easily like Magic Missile the thing is that, and that's why I mentioned tactician (you can check bg3 wiki for this as well) - Orin has only 7 stacks of unstoppable, while on tactician she has 12, that is why you were able to do burst easily, because she has fewer stacks that you have to remove - Orin has Legendary resistance on tactician, she doesn't have that on balanced - She has 175 HP on Balanced vs 238 HP on tactician, that's why burst damage like smites, after you remove 7 stacks of unstoppable (against 12 on tactician), will just do the job quicker

[@echobucket]

Huh, why did you have less enemies in the bridge room than I did. I had enemies on the top left cliff as well.

[@IsilionNELE]

Normally there's a cutscene when Orin dies. i think the Irrestistable Dance may have blocked it from triggering

[@kipgrey1267]

The fact that the developers didn't give us a dance animation for the slayer is borderline criminal

[@dalmaskadeadtrash3592]

0:03 Baldun Gay 3 🥲

[@EdS-du2wu]

Did you listen to Swen's game awards speech this year?

[@jemaselite8076]

How would you rank all of the companions from your favourite to least favorite so far Mapo? I know Shart used to be your least favorite but has that changed?

[@tylerjohnson6309]

Can you do a KOTOR 1 darkside playthrough? I enjoyed those so much. You gotta be Revan from the start!

[@jamesmccarthy962]

Good work with the fight and that was an intense persuasion roll. I hope the remaining act 3 still feels enjoyable since you smashed a good contenter for the toughest and most epic fights before the end game. Still lots to find and explore (: Magic missile is a great spell but i like Mapo gnome has his own magic missiles with his fists of fury

[@jemaselite8076]

Oh there are still quite a few tough fights ahead, I can't wait

[@nickrubin7312]

Oh, idk, I can think of 3-4, maybe 5 that are more epic (and 3-4 of them tougher), but that's how bosses in act3 go, each could be proven a challenge for any player, because 1st time, especially blind, they "check" different things about player's overall strategy and play style that player went for the playthrough. With magic missile, ray of scorching and all that multi-attacks for a single target (one hasted caster with magic missile easily removes 12 unstoppable each turn), Orin isn't that difficult to kill without even stopping Bhaalists chanting for the ritual. But, if you don't go for these, and don't figure out the way around sanctuary and know how it works (I mean they are obviously position on the edges for the player to figure out pushing them into the chasm with AoE), Orin will make you sweat (seen some playthroughs and plenty of posts that struggle with her)

[@ragenaros4475]

Ngl, that Dance ability is pure cheesy unfun bullshit, whoever made that 100% hit, got some problems, kinda dissapointing.

[@fable23]

Well, they don't call it Otto's _Irresistible_ Dance for nothing!

[@iamboringvideos6832]

1:25:40 yup that is the Dark Urge, that what what happens to him if you don't play as him.