The Terminator 4K UHD BLU-RAY Review

[@CarlFredrik-uo1cu]

Oliver Harper still going strong after all these years. I remember watching so many of your videos in 2013-2016

[@JoeChillton]

Man...i miss those days of the gang, it's good he's still putting in the work.

[@alexdas2000]

I watched him in the 90s

[@CarlFredrik-uo1cu]

@@alexdas2000 Damn, KZbin in the 90s? Those must've been the golde..., DIAMOND days. I missed out on that part.

[@alexdas2000]

@@CarlFredrik-uo1cu he use to mail out his videos on cd-rom

[@CowboyKing]

Don't forget the facebook group that sadly got closed.

[@jcollins1305]

I’m on the fence about getting a 4K player, and this is why. Every time you turn around there’s a new version of the film that promises that “this is the definitive version!” I’m not a technical guy, I just like to watch great movies without having to buy new versions every few years. Honestly, I like extras the best of all!

[@RRRRRRP]

The warmer 35mm scan definitely keeps that "of the era" look. Might have to hunt it down online

[@chrisk9613]

It’s out there. Check out Lord of the ring 35 mm as well. Someone on KZbin remastered them but kept the filmic look rather than the “modern” look of the official versions.

[@playedout148]

Part of the love of The Terminator is wrapped up in the GRAININESS of the film.

[@morten1]

Yeah. I like a sharp clear image and good sound But the original rough vibe matters

[@THomasHH]

The mono mix is the reason I will get this

[@martinddhyj]

The Mono track is worse than the one one the 1991 LaserDisc. Harsh and thin.

[@pulsefirefitness]

About 5 yrs ago i went on a binge watch and checked out all of yours video. Huge fan of your work but i keep waiting for more retrospective reviews. I hope you make that into a constant series.

[@nigeh5326]

I’m an older Brit and as I’ve commented to Oliver previously if the BBC ever bring back the movie review programme that aired from 72 to 98 (called Film 72 etc) presented by the late great Barry Norman they could not do better than to employ Oliver to present it 👍

[@jonbourgoin182]

Im with you there. When I discovered Oliver's channel I binged it for a whole week. But then I ran out of videos and now we only seldom get new retrospectives.

[@bmsquared]

My guess is that the retrospectives take a while to research, write, record and edit hence why they take about a month or so between them

[@OliverHarper]

@@nigeh5326 If the BBC were going to bring the Film Show back I would definitely audition for it! haha Im surprised they never hired Mark Kermode?

[@OliverHarper]

@@dirtycash36 In all honestly I was barely involved in them, I pop up briefly in "In Search Darkness II and In Search of Tomorrow" to tell you the plot of a film. I was told by someone on the production that the director of these "In Search of" docs didn't like "KZbinrs" and was jealous of our skills to edit, write and provide voice over so I was only used as an obligation to the producer. I tried to watch In Search of Darkness III but found it pretty much unwatchable. The "do you remember this movie" approach to these documentaries don't really appeal to me especially if you're just going to tell the audience the plot then move onto the next movie. A wasted opportunity in my opinion.

[@Bubba__Sawyer]

The blue from the 35mm print is very much how I remember the movie looking on VHS here in Australia. It looks stunning.

[@eyesonly7072]

Epic opening ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@Shadow-bs1iu]

I love this film, with the exception of Laserdisc, I’ve owned it on every format. I’m gutted now with this upscale, I thought we were getting a true 4K. The previous blu ray was absolutely stunning. Why has he upscale this if there is a true 4K master to be utilised? This film absolutely deserves the maximum resolution. The mono track and atmos sound brilliant, why can’t we have a full new 4K

[@winterhell2002]

My understanding for the 'teal and orange' look was originally to increase the contrast of a movie in an otherwise limited range. But once we have HDR, that makes the tonemapping for increasing the contrast moot.

[@bened22]

Cameron doesn't seem to care for any of that. What has happened to the technical perfectionist he once was? Aliens doesn't even have an extended color space.

[@atti97]

The 40th Anniversary restoration from a 4K film scan of the 35mm negative and a new Dolby Atmos mix with final sound and picture approved by director James Cameron. Presented by Park Circus with thanks to MGM. Post House: Park Road Post, Colourist: Tashi Trieu, Sound Mixer for Atmos: Mike Hedges

[@neiltaylor6645]

One thing I noticed from the original version was the terminator 45 gun sounding original like the 44 magnum in Dirty Harry since then they changed the sound of the gun firing

[@Scaash]

OO I love your new Orion like intro

[@DeliveryServiceFan06]

It totally fits the vibes of this video because The Terminator is a film from Orion Picture that's excellent.

[@aseddon130]

I managed to preorder the steelbook 4K disc on a misprice for £20 and thankfully the site I bought it off honoured it. It was only until watching your video I realised the original theatrical mix is in here and that for me alone makes it worth the price of this. The noise of the gunfire was always terrible since the DVD but always liked the video upgrades on every version and I have once gone out my way to make my own remux of latest BD version with mono audio with the better gunshots. Yes I’m that odd with this film, it’s my favourite film of all time. This is a great disc besides all that, as you say it would have been nice to have additional video but the previous docs have been great.

[@RyanWard1987]

Perfect review. Thank you for putting in the hard work to compare not only the blu ray editions and the new 4K, but also with the various 35mm, laserdisc and DVD editions over the years. From your comparison shots, and after watching the new 4K, I concur with your assessment that this is likely a port over of the previous remastered Blu-ray from 2012, just with some Park Road Post AI on top. Considering that 2012 blu is apparently utilizing a 4K scan, that would explain why it didn’t look as atrocious as True Lies & Aliens, seeing as how those two almost certainly used their old respective 2K blu ray scans (even though we never got that Blu for True Lies here in the states-or across the pond either if memory serves!😅). I think that also explains why the HDR isn’t quite as deep (regarding luminance/detail in highlights/etc) as other 4K transfers from films of this era which had new 4K scans done the traditional/industry standard way. Older 4K scans usually didn’t do anything but a single “picture” per frame, or just an overexposure & underexposure shot of each frame at most, rather than multiple (generally 3 to 5) steps, so that could explain the iffy nature of the HDR here, as its source is likely an early SDR 4K scan of the negative. All just guesses here 😅 but in the end the good news is that this certainly isn’t True Lies/Aliens 4K bad, and dare I say is slightly improved over The Abyss’s 4K, and maybe about on par with The Titanic’s new 4K. Again, very thorough and entertaining review, I’m glad the KZbin Gods put your video in my feed. You’ve got a new subscriber 🫡👍📀. [edit: formatting + better wording in a couple areas]

[@david2k86]

Once again, a brilliant review Ollie! I love how you went into great detail with the previous releases/masters with this one and I hope you continue with this for future reviews. Ghostbusters (1984) is another film that springs to mind that has had several different remasters across the formats.

[@seangilchrist3102]

The retrospective reviews are some of the best reviews of movies available to see. longer more in depth reviews feel best for a good watch with Oliver but will always have fun even with shorter content time to time.

[@MacReady1980]

I am so looking forward to my copy arriving. Listening to the original audio and seeing it with an amazing 4K transfer is brilliant! This is one of my favourite films of all time and is the best Terminator AND Cameron film!

[@DialloMoore503]

He hasn’t made his best film yet.

[@MacReady1980]

@ who? Cameron or Schwarzenegger? I’d say this is Cameron’s AND Arnie’s best film and they will never top it.

[@DialloMoore503]

@@MacReady1980 Jim hasn’t made his best film yet. I love T1, but I prefer T2 slightly more.

[@kellinwinslow1988]

I'll wait to see what That Damm Fool Idealistic Crusade has to say about this transfer. His breakdowns of the terrible 4K releases of The Godfather and Indiana Jones films were very in-depth and informative. And his roasting of the recent Cameron releases on 4K was fantastic. So I'll wait to see what happens after this and if they actually do a good version of T2 on 4k.

[@txmoney]

Well done Oliver! From your review and from the stills displayed my another YT channel, (My Moonization), I am sold on this 4K blu ray. I watched The Terminator in the theater the weekend after it debuted in 1984. One of the most memorable experiences of my young life. Although I detest overly enhanced transfers, I am not a pixel peeper. And considering the low budget of the film, I welcome the improved detail and color enhancement. This transfer looks better than the original. I can’t wait to fire up my Oppo 4K player and LG 65” to revisit one of my favorite films.

[@dravenlee4473]

I was pretty blown away by the new Atmos mix. Despite the replacement sound effects which don't bother me too much, the music, the surround and everything that comes with it is such an engaging experience. You feel transported to that world.

[@TheDarkHour684]

2:24 like this?

[@doyouluvit]

Great video sir. Bravo! Anyone saying the transfer is garbage is ridiculous. It looks so good! Bummer no new special features but....

[@thefishdog]

i remember ripping my vinyl DJ collection to 128kbps in the late 90s thinking it was best quality with digital technology at the time and storage media . then selling my collection. These masters remind me of that, these scans are upscales with AI now.

[@Dream0Asylum]

I actually was unsure, but I think I'm going to grab it thanks to your review. I did have some reservations when I noticed the teal (the whole reason I skipped the bluray as I remembered a cool blue for the night / dark scenes from my nostalgia glasses and always thought that it helped set a proper tone.) It seems these days that nobody trusts the original grading and always either lean heavily into orange and/or teal. Even if you think the original minorly flawed, you'll remember it for its uniqueness. I'm worried everything is going to get washed out and homogenized in this rush to "modernize for contemporary audiences."

[@conorbrosnahan5464]

Fantastic review Oliver 👏 my 4K is on the way. This makes the third time buying the film 🤣🤣🤣

[@jackfry]

love your reviews please never stop

[@Crukren89]

I watched the re release in cinemas a couple of months back (Cineworld) It had a James Cameron intro before the film. A short retrospective, In more words than one he mentioned how looking back it was too cheesy at times. Me and someone across the aisle had a miffed race when he said that, The viewing with Dolby Atmos was fantastic though. Its one of my cinema highlights of this year. To see this film on the big screen helped me relate to when my mum and aunt saw it back in 1984 and they were blown away.

[@PowerRangersLostGalaxyFanFilm]

40 years. This Terminator has come a long way with all the different editions. Just... Wow! The 4K quality is so darn sharp, clean and rich in picture.

[@sulrich70]

It sounds like park road listened to the previous criticism. Good stuff. Great review as usual, thank you

[@danlove12k]

After so many editions This should be called the “milking out the public” edition 🤣🤣🤣

[@dan_evilrobot]

Yeah, I finished watching this on 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray. It looks sharper, really good on my 4K Television, and the sound quality is quite better than the previous releases. I still kept my DVD version it had more bonus features.

[@amigang]

very tempted, only own this on DVD and never upgraded to blu ray, so it may be time!

[@vennystrashbin]

Just buy the 2012 Blu-Ray. Not ideal, but it's perfectly watchable and a LOT cheaper. The UHD is just the same master used in that Blu-Ray upscaled with AI. The only benefit of the UHD is the original mono mix is included

[@georgeharris9873]

Keep bringing in those reviews and thank you for this. If you have the original special edition d.v.d containing ALL the bonus features, hold on to that one.

[@PaulV3D]

Great video as always! I got the steelbook of this which does include the 2012 bluray.

[@halomultiplayermoments]

Got this last week and watched it Sunday with mates. The transfer was amazing.

[@amovieguy14]

I had a feeling you would be review this new 4K edition. Awesome review!!

[@AlexGreat321]

I never noticed the scenes Oliver was on about with the wires and crew. Clearly I'm not that observant haha I think I'll stick with my blu ray. There's no extras and the quality difference is minimal. If it goes on sale I might convince myself though

[@newtypepunk9967]

I'm sure you dancing skills did impress the ladies, they were just worried about their local Terminators lol. You know I don't think I have seen the 35mm version now that you mention it, always the TV or VHS version, I will have to track this 35mm version down, thanks for mentioning it and all the reviews you do.

[@branscombe_]

great review, I just loved this transfer! it's almost as good as Titanic 4k. you earned a new sub! btw, it was a 2k scan upscaled.

[@sarahvansanden2051]

Now I finally know what to buy my dad for his birthday! Looks very nice.

[@NathanBarley1]

All these remasters remind me Father Ted hammering away at the car

[@Trekrid]

I enjoyed watching The Terminator in 4K for the first time, I pre-ordered the steelbook edition which I'm glad I did since it sold out quite quickly. Bonus it also comes with a standard blu-ray copy of the film, have yet to try it but I assume it has more special features than the what's included on the 4K disc. Gonna be picking up The Abyss at some point but I'm unsure about Cameron's other 4K releases.

[@MrCarpen7er]

It´s impossible to remember how films looked at the theatre when i (or anybody) saw them in the late 70´s and during the 80´s and even the 90´s. I can´t even remember how they looked on tv and VHS except that they had a lot of grain and scratches.

[@GRORGvideot]

And human memory is deceptive too. Try watching a movie you ”remember by heart” after a 10 year break or so and you’ll notice that there are scenes in there which you have no memory of at all.

[@MrCarpen7er]

@@GRORGvideot It happened to me. Movies that i watched dozens and dozens of times and there are details that i haven´t noticed before.

[@afmccloskey]

Do you have OCD, Oliver? Your attention to detail and collections are impressive. I enjoy collecting rare items and I have OCD.

[@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r]

I'm really starting to get the feeling that Cameron is hiring Skynet themselves to make these awful AI remasters lol.

[@SultanSamet]

One of the rare occasions of "nah I'm still good with the dvd"

[@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r]

@ I always stick with my dvd's. I love the older looks they have compared to the new formats

[@osurpless]

@@SultanSametVHS for me, as I’m still mostly sour on the Dolby remaster. Even in light of knowing why the mono track was originally chosen.

[@samholdsworth420]

It's a lazy way to make a lot of money 😊

[@alexrivera633]

We need a T800 to go back in time and stop skynet from doing these remasters!

[@AhmetAtalayOfficial]

Where can we find the 35mm copy?

[@retrobob3802]

The Tech Noir scene is amazing, you highlighted exactly what I love about it.

[@dragon-tamer7956]

Omg that intro was amazing 😳😂

[@JenniferM13]

I have it on VHS which I got in the 90s and I've also picked up the DVD and Blu-ray over the years too, so may as well get this. I think it looks and sounds great from the parts I've seen.

[@kubovy866]

My favorite scene in the movie still when Resse looks into the camera and says "That's All He Does!" and that true sense of terror on Sarah's face. Great acting from Michael Biehn and Linda Hamilton.

[@osurpless]

Same as when he’s covering for the writers/lampshading the concept: “Something about the energy surrounding a living being, nothing dead will go. I didn’t build the fuckin’ thing?!” And his lack of response to why he didn’t bring any “ray guns”.

[@JimElford]

​@@osurplessThe terminators can travel because their dead machinery is covered in living tissue. Maybe they should've brought ghoulish skin-covered weapons. Now that's a creepy Cronenberg-style sequel id be interested in.

[@danieltuval8879]

I finished watching it last night and yes while I think its sharpness and clarity is a bit jarring,it certainly is an incredible viewing experience, bringing the viewer closer to the film and giving an immersion never before available, probably not even cinematically. I think given the age of the film this is certainly the definitive way to watch it,and I think anyone wanting it to look and sound any better is really being unreasonable, because it is a big leap forward even over the blu ray,which as stated was very good. At the end of the day the only thing worth saying here, no matter what the technology used is whether this is a fantastic viewing experience overall, and it certainly is.

[@kamdan2011]

Damn shame there’ll never be an Ultimate Edition with extensive special features.

[@dcsportsmark4996]

Great review. Thanks for the good content as usual. 👏 👏👏

[@edbeasant9494]

Glad to see it's not another True Lies mess of a 4k.

[@HNedel]

Or T2 in 4K… i bought that one on ebay, brand new, and while it was on the way watched some reviews… sold it without opening the wrap, just as it came… that movie deserves better. When Predator 4K came out, i was so happy to upgrade from the ultimate hunter buray edition 😊

[@WhatHoSnorkers]

Another lovely review!

[@spaceodds1985]

Got my copy and overall a tad more palatable than the BD in picture. Having said that after seeing the film in 35mm at the Prince Charles Cinema, I honestly will always have a problem watching this film on home video.

[@OliverHarper]

Pretty much spot on mate.

[@aidangreen7006]

Loved your videos since 2014, Oliver! You’re the only content creator who shares my exact level of enthusiasm and attention to detail on how Hollywood treats these legacy releases.

[@carveraugustus3840]

Ohhh 4K UHD very cool. Super iconic film 🎞️

[@Zice033]

If there’s a scale of Picky-ness in terms of 4K Transfers, I’m probably on the low end. I didn’t mind any of the infamous James Cameron Transfers, for example. The only 4K transfer that I personally thought looked terrible was the one done for AMERICAN GRAFFITI. Great Movie, but whatever was done to it with the recent 4K version….yeah, no.

[@KasumiKenshirou]

I'm the same with you as to not noticing the hated Cameron transfers. I'm not saying that people are imagining things or that they're too picky, just that I didn't notice these things until they were pointed out to me.

[@connorbrennan4233]

Knowing the mono mix is included alone makes me want to buy this. Is the regular Blu-Ray the same transfer as the 4K?

[@PaoloLery]

Oliver we love your channel keep it up ❤

[@dragondaveltd1992]

12:17 He'll Find Her! That What He Does! That All He Does! You Can't Stop Him!!

[@adamofgrayskull7735]

Aghh burning in the 3rd degree classic.🤘😄🤘

[@ZeZwede]

now the only thing we need are the punchy soundeffects into dolby atmos and we will have a near perfect edition? i suppose the fact they at least added the mono is a win. xD

[@N8oRMusic]

This is the only review that matters

[@CaptainMcPunch]

The only replaced sounds I don't mind are the "phased plasma" gunshots taken from T2.

[@tomsenior7405]

Nice one. Cheers. I am still a huge fan of The Terminator. Thank you for your Blu-Ray review. This was my go-to film for a long time. A night out with my mates, then come home, trough a Ruby, then pop on the film while downing a few tins to round off the nights. Had I not married my Sarah Connor look-alike girlfriend, I would probably still be doing the same today. Sadly, I am not at all interested in the the sequels. I did try T2. No thanks. A precocious child and his pet robot? Didn't Lost in Space do this already! Had Kyle survived, I imagine he would be living the dream of raising his own family with the girl of his dreams, as am I.

[@garrysanderson9957]

I trust your judgement over many others, so having enjoyed your review, I’ll have to pick this up. I thought the Aliens 4k was pretty decent.

[@akiostewart]

hey buddy- did you just see a reeeellll brite light???

[@Shadow-bs1iu]

I do really like the teal look, it gives the film a machine futuristic type look. However I would like to see the original colour grading on this. I would gladly pay again for another release of this film so as to get the definitive version

[@thecoolj45221]

I heard Titanic 4k transfer was spectacular too

[@chiangui24]

Great review. Just noting that (as far as I know) James Cameron doesn't have as much control over The Terminator films as he sold the rights for $1 back in the day so that he could be the director, so he probably wasn't as involved, if at all. in this remaster. All of his other films were through 20th Century where he usually has full control over his projects. That is probably why the treatment here is different from his other recent releases.

[@DialloMoore503]

I think the rights returned to him. If not, they will soon.

[@jreal5]

Wow I had no idea they fixed the scapel blade I didn't notice. I wish they would've fixed his eye showing under glasses in the I'll be back scene it always bugs the shit out of me.

[@sonnyblack0870]

Wish they would allow an option to watch it in its original format on these remastered special edition releases.

[@tc14gt88]

Is there a Terminator box set that includes at least the first two movies in blu ray? i can't find such a product any-where online in France.

[@rickytoddbotelho9555]

Never get enough of this cinematic masterpiece 😂❤

[@djpirtu2]

This is THE movie from my childhood. First saw it from TV and later from VHS many times (recorded from TV). Then from DVD and Bluray. It's been awhile since last time so this 4k version is a good reason to watch it again, from 4k OLED TV.

[@ChromeDestiny]

I've got the standard DVD of this with mono audio and a high end Blu-Ray player albiet not 4K, I wanted access to muti-region. I've heard mixed reviews of 4K but a few more releases with these specs and I might take the plunge one day.

[@petergare4766]

Nice review. It does bug me that 4K discs are no longer bundled with a blu ray. It is understandable for back catalogue reissues but I was quite upset by Dune pt.2 not coming out dual format as part 1 DID. It's going to upset my whole collection! :D

[@OliverHarper]

I think Arrow were the first to stop offering regular blurays with their 4K releases? and started this trend.

[@TheFly212]

I... Commandeered the laser disk download version from a certain website years ago. I then used vegas pro for super sampling. This was back in 2017 lol, I got sick of the shitty blu ray versions. I bought the 06 and the 2012 vesion and just said, "fuck it, I'll do it myself". Terminator doesn't need super sharp image. I only managed to turn the MPEG2 file from 480p to 800p. But it still looks like 35 mill and had the real mono audio. I still think it looks better than the shitty A.I. slop 4K version. No thanks.

[@donaldduck7461]

Just want the original mono (Gun sounds) 😊

[@lookitskazzy]

It's on the disc, he says this in the review.

[@donaldduck7461]

@ 👍 thanks mate

[@bedfordshiremodeller4491]

​@@lookitskazzyOh thank god for that

[@SpacedCobraIII]

The 4k has this slight but weird artificial look to the image and characters have strange outlines in certain scenes. The mono track is really the only reason to watch this over the previous bluray.

[@mitchelllawrence2798]

Another great review.

[@Shadow-bs1iu]

the atmos track is superb

[@CaptainReynolds-flyinspace]

They just needs to relese movies as is, and then relese in new full remastered quality. And thats all. Consumer would have an options.

[@1300l]

Is it hard to add another disk with the original source scan? They can go all out on the remaster if they also add the original movie untouched

[@baxterwilson368]

I bought this on AppleTV for $5 a day before it upgraded to 4K. I thought it looked great as well. I kept looking at Sarah’s feathered hair to see if the AI would mess it up. My eye just kept getting drawn to it for some reason. I didn’t notice anything though. 😂

[@EnigmaticPenguin]

I'm not usually an audio guy, but man did I hate the 2001 mix. The Mono sounds are firmly 1980's, which matches the visual and the music. The modern sounds felt out of place. It was no longer a cohesive movie.

[@billbluenose9840]

I have the dvd special edition collection and that looks pretty good on playstation

[@alexh2790]

Is this available to stream?

[@MikePhillips-x6m]

They should CGI the T800 Endoskeleton fight at end of the film. That would be awesome.

[@DialloMoore503]

No.

[@repairshop22]

It's totally worth it

[@dvdmike007]

They remixed the sound again and added lines plus the CG blade and another AI upscale mean I'm out

[@alienboy1322]

The irony of using Ai.

[@lookitskazzy]

Can you explain "lines"? I agree with the video guy that the blade isn't a big deal. I'm still not sure why people think this is an upscale when a 4K master was made over a decade ago for the Blu-Ray version...

[@Shadow-bs1iu]

i’d not noticed the blade end either

[@entertainmentwizard2703]

I heard unfortunately it is a upscale of the 2K master though why did they not use the 4K scan I will never know though at least the transfer seems to be pretty good!

[@ElectronicWitchcraft]

DUN DA DUN DA DUNN

[@laurenced2916]

The sound effects and music sound best on the original vhs release. I never liked the audio on the dvd or bluray releases.

[@IVSAKENSOUL]

Maybe Cameron is intentionally ruining these 4K AI remasters to get us to hate AI. He knows Skynet is real! 🤯

[@snesfan8935]

I prefer old mono track in first Terminator. New SFX suck. Same new sound was added in DVD release back in the day, and i was angry what they did.

[@southwestkinema9149]

I love how the Aliens 4K looks. It's fine by me. Each to his own. Love to the family.