The Terrible Version of Woody That Almost Destroyed Pixar

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Nerdstalgic

Nerdstalgic

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@Nerdstalgic
@Nerdstalgic 5 жыл бұрын
I DID NOT lump the wheel, Auto, in Wall-E in with the villains as he’s more of a narrative than obstacle than a character IMO! Also: If you want more info about how the Black Friday reel came into existence, search katzenberg! Cut a line about Cohen vs coen so the joke isn’t there, but to be clear, not of the Coen brothers! A villain, is not any character that provides an obstacle, or a hurdle, it isn’t even every person that does something wrong within a narrative structure. The wheel, or AI, in Wall-e is not a villain, nor does Pixar classify him or it that way.
@dluxx3719
@dluxx3719 5 жыл бұрын
Have you considered doing a video on FlapJack? It was a pretty good show in my opinion and I don't normally hear it as often
@dlc4147
@dlc4147 5 жыл бұрын
Startstruck by Disney has some of the best songs in any Disney movie ever and is incredibly cringe
@thGmni
@thGmni 5 жыл бұрын
Loving the episodes, man. The episode on Dexter and Courage was awesome, but just for me (and I'm sure other people too) my love for animation started a couple years before that, and I would love to see you do a synopsis on Hannah Barbara shows - and you haven't really... Flintstones, Scooby Doo and Johnny Quest. And eventually work to mah man Johnny Bravo. Would love to hear what you have to say about those shows. Much love from South Africa.
@rocklobster2132
@rocklobster2132 5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean wall-e doesnt have a villain.... its the steering wheel. You could call the villan the human ignorance but imbodied in the ship they made, but it is a clear villain. Loved the vid
@Logan-eb2wh
@Logan-eb2wh 5 жыл бұрын
Please do As Told By Ginger , I’ve been asking for this for a while
@michaelstrong5383
@michaelstrong5383 5 жыл бұрын
I can understand where Pixar was coming from with the original version of Toy Story. Woody becomes a huge jerk to everyone, but then he realizes what friendship is all about, and he becomes a good guy at the end. The problem was that they made Woody too much of a jerk. It's to the point where you didn't want him to learn a lesson, you want him gone. Thank goodness Pixar changed it all up and gave us the Woody we all know and love today.
@Lucifronz
@Lucifronz 5 жыл бұрын
He was too shallow for anyone to ever believe the transition from bad guy to good guy could happen. It's more than just being an irritating character no one wants to see anymore, let alone see be redeemed, he's just too evil to believe he could ever change. He has no depth.
@Wawagirl17
@Wawagirl17 5 жыл бұрын
This is my problem with Lightning in the first Cars. He's far too insufferable for me to buy his redemption, or even WANT to see him redeemed. I want to see him crash.
@mania4270
@mania4270 5 жыл бұрын
Well duh. It's called writing a story. Obvious you take out and change things that won't work. Smh
@michaelstrong5383
@michaelstrong5383 5 жыл бұрын
@@Wawagirl17 For me it's Oscar from Shark Tale. That character is so arrogant and makes the dumbest decisions, I just want him to get eaten by a shark rather than learning something.
@DavinLong
@DavinLong 5 жыл бұрын
And for almost 25 years he’s become one of P.I.X.A.R’s best developed characters, I mean just look at his transition from the Original Toy Story to the recent Toy Story 4!
@muticere
@muticere 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like you can still see traces of Woody's darker characterization in the first film. He's a lot more cantankerous and rude to the other toys than he would be in later Toy Story films.
@returnedtomonkey8886
@returnedtomonkey8886 4 жыл бұрын
That's what character development means.
@Superluigi881
@Superluigi881 4 жыл бұрын
They still wanted him to be flawed just not evil. So he went from a dictator to a well intentioned control freak.
@Weldedhodag
@Weldedhodag 4 жыл бұрын
@@Superluigi881 i thought it was just him having an Ego from being the favorite toy
@brycefourn2001
@brycefourn2001 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. In the final version of the film, Woody was a bit of a jerk in some moments though I can tell that it was most likely from his initial jealously towards Buzz stealing his position as Andy's favorite toy.
@claytone.9706
@claytone.9706 4 жыл бұрын
Aha aha *GIVE ME THAT*
@mr.x6313
@mr.x6313 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention one important piece of information: apparently it was the Disney execs themselves who wanted a darker, more mature Woody. Pixar reluctantly complied and somehow the execs were surprised when the result was terrible.
@boodesultan12
@boodesultan12 2 жыл бұрын
Exces: surprised Pikachu
@tokeners
@tokeners 2 жыл бұрын
They probably didn't meant literally over the top lol
@helpfulplaylists3933
@helpfulplaylists3933 2 жыл бұрын
And it was none other then jeffrey katzenberg.
@glasshorse6893
@glasshorse6893 2 жыл бұрын
guessing by the woody we have now, they wanted someone redeemable at least
@Katlick
@Katlick 2 жыл бұрын
@@helpfulplaylists3933 He probably thought villainous is how people normally interact with another
@sewerspitz
@sewerspitz 5 жыл бұрын
_how the hell did woody not swear, he was so close to it_
@ezrastardust3124
@ezrastardust3124 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently Tom hanks did initially swear when recording his lines and they had him keep doing new takes until he forgot to swear
@ambergirl986
@ambergirl986 4 жыл бұрын
There are preschool toys present
@FlaminGingerbread
@FlaminGingerbread 4 жыл бұрын
Thousandth like
@justshelby1594
@justshelby1594 4 жыл бұрын
ambergirl986 UNDERATED COMMENT
@jimym__
@jimym__ 4 жыл бұрын
Kenneth Diamondheart teachers swear all the time when they’re mad now
@speakeroftruth5739
@speakeroftruth5739 5 жыл бұрын
Woody being the jerk in toy story one ❌ Everybody being a jerk to Woody in toy story one✔
@Wawagirl17
@Wawagirl17 5 жыл бұрын
They learned that making Potato Head the jerk was where it's at.
@Cure_Hana
@Cure_Hana 5 жыл бұрын
Technically it was only Potato Head who was constantly going against Woody and insulting him. The other toys only joined in after he convinced them that Woody pushed Buzz out the window on purpose.
@Deepdarkbasement
@Deepdarkbasement 5 жыл бұрын
It was pay back for how woody acted in the Black Friday Reel...
@RealMasterpieces
@RealMasterpieces 5 жыл бұрын
*big brain*
@lateteradedante4091
@lateteradedante4091 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, no, Woody WAS kind of a jerk, he was egotistical and bossy, but at the end of the movie though he learns what being a LEADER is really like. A leader is not someone who tells you what to do, but someone who helps there teammates become better and overcome problems together.
@mickey4125
@mickey4125 4 жыл бұрын
"This isn't flying! It's falling, with style!" Has to be one of the best full-circle callbacks ever. Woody originally says it when he and Buzz are nemeses both to have a stab at him, but also make fun of the fact that Buzz thinks he's the 'real' Buzz Lightyear. Then after everything they go through, Woody learning to be more tolerant and accepting, Buzz learning that he actually really isn't the 'real' Buzz, and the pair learning to get along, work together, even like and respect each other, Buzz says it in the final triumphant moments of their arc, and it cements everything they've gone through in a beautifully neat little way. Now that's good writing.
@DarthTrilluminati
@DarthTrilluminati 3 жыл бұрын
Shut up
@rockinHurley777
@rockinHurley777 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarthTrilluminati you shut up
@VitaEmerald324
@VitaEmerald324 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like something similar happens with Woody’s interactions with Forky. Throughout Toy Story 4 there’s conflict about Forky’s considering himself trash. Woody tries to convince Forky that he’s more than that: that Forky is a toy. This is very different than when he said it to Buzz though. With Buzz, Woody is somewhat cynical about toys just being playthings for kids. But I think between 1 and 4 Woody’s outlook changes, probably thanks to his time with the Roundup crew in 2. He sees toys as something to cherish now. And upon meeting Forky, and seeing how much Bonnie cherishes him, he has to convey that to Forky who has his own cynical mindset of only seeing himself as a mess of parts thrown together at a whim.
@TamamaCandyLover
@TamamaCandyLover 5 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: Re-reading and Re-writing is very important. Seriously, the way he spoke to Slinky was flat out disturbing.
@thunderbird1921
@thunderbird1921 5 жыл бұрын
That's where Frozen is HEAVILY flawed. If Toy Story is the right way to launch a franchise, then that is how NOT to launch one.
@lexierosevideos
@lexierosevideos 4 жыл бұрын
Thunderbird 1 nearly all of Frozen was rewritten though
@spoono5507
@spoono5507 4 жыл бұрын
*now slink, or im throwing you off.*
@shrekogreson7580
@shrekogreson7580 4 жыл бұрын
He legit told him that his job isn't to think.
@BigBeerus
@BigBeerus 4 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck you're soft
@komillz
@komillz 5 жыл бұрын
1:10 C computer G generated I animation
@mariic2
@mariic2 4 жыл бұрын
The I is supposed to stand for "Imagery".
@BubJeans
@BubJeans 4 жыл бұрын
This guys a dope that posted video
@abns5929
@abns5929 4 жыл бұрын
C omputer G enerated I dentity
@bobbyward2440
@bobbyward2440 4 жыл бұрын
@@abns5929 why does people like this lol your wrong
@lukeflamand5511
@lukeflamand5511 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyward2440 it's obviously a joke lol
@koolboi6610
@koolboi6610 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact of the day: Andy used to wear glasses in these drafts
@Vitallor
@Vitallor 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact:that’s actually his dad
@justsoup3726
@justsoup3726 3 жыл бұрын
@Succulent Cranberry Ha nerd
@steeltiger1465
@steeltiger1465 3 жыл бұрын
They were going to do something different for Toy Story 3. Andy was actually the son of another person, who had polio as a kid, and had glasses because of it. Woody is the only Woody in the world also. They were doing a drawing for woody dolls from woodie's roundup, but "the spaceships went up, and never came down". They ended up sending his dad the only Woody to exist which is why he "doesn't know who he is". Apparently his dad died of post polio syndrome. This actually comes from the creator of toy story.
@rawtrout007
@rawtrout007 3 жыл бұрын
who gives a SHIT???🤣🤣🤣
@radexyz-fx8ix
@radexyz-fx8ix 3 жыл бұрын
@@rawtrout007 me
@darko-man8549
@darko-man8549 4 жыл бұрын
I always hate the mantra of "kids don't get complex characters"
@TheGoldenDunsparce
@TheGoldenDunsparce 4 жыл бұрын
Ironically, kids are more empathetic and understanding than most adults...
@skinni_the_P00hBear
@skinni_the_P00hBear 4 жыл бұрын
TheGoldenDunsparce Yep
@rickyricardo2006
@rickyricardo2006 4 жыл бұрын
Can you shut up about the mantra!! -will ferrel
@thunderbird1921
@thunderbird1921 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! I remember I understood some adult aimed films by the time I was 6 or 7. Many kids ENJOY thinking. They're A LOT smarter than people give them credit for!
@darko-man8549
@darko-man8549 4 жыл бұрын
@@thunderbird1921 in many ways, it's not even that they have to "think" consciously to understand what is going on as well. I know as a kid I wouldn't be able to explain it, but I understood
@Renae5147
@Renae5147 5 жыл бұрын
I love how nobody is talking about how woody called slink a “spring wiener.” 😂 it’s comedy gold.
@KevyNova
@KevyNova 4 жыл бұрын
Adia Aud that’s the one thing that should have been left in.
@Tw0Dots
@Tw0Dots 4 жыл бұрын
Prob wouldnt get it Like me
@EmptyHand49
@EmptyHand49 4 жыл бұрын
That was my nickname in high school
@Ok-fj7xx
@Ok-fj7xx 4 жыл бұрын
C O M E D Y G O L D
@mungselectedworks
@mungselectedworks 4 жыл бұрын
not funny
@m0thman815
@m0thman815 4 жыл бұрын
Scar isn’t relatable? I don’t know about that. I to am a social outcast lion, longing to overtake my brother as king of our pride.
@Han_Niche
@Han_Niche 4 жыл бұрын
Ow the edge
@celltrark7161
@celltrark7161 4 жыл бұрын
@@Han_Niche Shad hog
@toxic_shr00m
@toxic_shr00m 4 жыл бұрын
@@Han_Niche That's the joke
@seriousguy2160
@seriousguy2160 4 жыл бұрын
Scar and Jafar are not good villlain, thanos is a very relatable villan. Not because he is a very strong and evil bad guy who wants all the power for him, but because he have a strong motivation which shapes his personality that makes a very relatable and 3rd character.
@Han_Niche
@Han_Niche 4 жыл бұрын
@@seriousguy2160 Yes cause everyone can relate to a power hungry tyrant who wants nothing more than to impose his way on others by wiping out half of all life
@nathan8569
@nathan8569 5 жыл бұрын
Woody being a jerk in the early version can be pretty much blamed on then-Disney studio chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg's demand that the movie be "darker and edgier."
@LordBlueRouge
@LordBlueRouge 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting thing to point out for those curious: It wasn't Disney who wanted "darker and edgier" it was Katzenberg, and after his dismissal in 1995, Katzenberg later would co-found DreamWorks animation in order to make Shrek and other films. The "darken and edgier" is still there, it's just in DreamWorks Animation now, very cool piece of history here.
@nathan8569
@nathan8569 5 жыл бұрын
@@LordBlueRouge Actually, Katzenberg left Disney in 1994, a few months after The Lion King came out.
@JJ-ip1eo
@JJ-ip1eo 5 жыл бұрын
I was also quite disappointed that Katzenberg was not mentioned in this video because Woody's earliest personality and the general "edgy" tone is on record for being due to Katzenberg's insistence and that Lasseter at one point said that at this point the movie was no longer the movie he wanted to make and was on board with cancelling the movie altogether unless allowed to make the movie he wanted to make.
@corporatecanine6030
@corporatecanine6030 5 жыл бұрын
This whole fiasco inspired a creepypasta called The Black Friday Incident, in which the writers get so frustrated with time constraints and the "darker and edgier" requirement that they turned the original draft into a feverish nightmare and ended up dying from stress. By the end of it, Woody starts ripping out chunks of his own flesh and scars the team of executives at Disney.
@noti7510
@noti7510 5 жыл бұрын
"It's not a phase, Disney!"
@xyzcreate
@xyzcreate 5 жыл бұрын
Tom Hanks literally cannot play a villain. It is physically impossible for him. He just exudes kindness and wholesomeness
@shannonosullivan1375
@shannonosullivan1375 5 жыл бұрын
@Axtwyt Starkiller THERES NO CRYING! THERES NO CRYING IN BASEBALL
@ImDrowningInFootwear
@ImDrowningInFootwear 5 жыл бұрын
Tell that to Isaac Kappy.
@magic75450
@magic75450 5 жыл бұрын
In the movie "The Circle" Tom Hanks played a villain, and somehow Emma Watson (the hero) did more bad things than he did. Sure, the script was bad, but still.
@Stereo6400
@Stereo6400 5 жыл бұрын
The circle wasn’t a good movie to me. I dunno why because I haven’t seen it in so long but I just remember coming away from it dissatisfied.
@magic75450
@magic75450 5 жыл бұрын
@@Stereo6400 I also didn't like the movie. I think a big reason is the script. Somehow the hero (Emma Watson) was a better villain tham the actual villain (Tom Hanks), and it seemed to me that she even became the villain at the end, yet the movie considered the final shot to be a good thing.
@thefrogthatknows5251
@thefrogthatknows5251 4 жыл бұрын
"Do any of these have Villains? No." Coco: :\
@the_fatcowboy8097
@the_fatcowboy8097 4 жыл бұрын
You just have to SEIZE YOUR MOMENT
@rubymarie6232
@rubymarie6232 4 жыл бұрын
@@the_fatcowboy8097 N O
@symphony-of-the-mint2008
@symphony-of-the-mint2008 4 жыл бұрын
Except that's not what he said at all. He made that argument for like Wall-e, but when he highlights Coco he specifically says that the villain is used more as a narrative piece or they're not really important to tell that story. We know there's a villain yeah, but the guy wasn't refuting that; he was agreeing with you.
@thefrogthatknows5251
@thefrogthatknows5251 4 жыл бұрын
@@symphony-of-the-mint2008 Humor.
@symphony-of-the-mint2008
@symphony-of-the-mint2008 4 жыл бұрын
Ok
@MidnightClubStillCancelledSoz
@MidnightClubStillCancelledSoz 5 жыл бұрын
I’m glad they changed Woody. He is a complete jerk in this scene...
@marcorizo1387
@marcorizo1387 5 жыл бұрын
Well,in the movie he is a nice cowboy.
@SoldierMan1557
@SoldierMan1557 5 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda glad they changed woody to be honest with you
@harrylane4
@harrylane4 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so curious to know what Toy Story would be with Woody as villain, though. It probably wouldn't be the feel-good romp that the final product was, but it would probably have a pretty big cult following
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 5 жыл бұрын
i kinda want to see where it would have gone tbh.
@mrs.schmenkman
@mrs.schmenkman 5 жыл бұрын
Toy Story is simply a remake of The Christmas Toy. A 1986 made for Disney Channel movie that Jim Henson did.
@coolbeans5911
@coolbeans5911 5 жыл бұрын
Hearing Woody screaming at Slinky like that made me so upset😢
@0v30-roblox6
@0v30-roblox6 5 жыл бұрын
It is called "shouting" And also me too slinky is one of my favorite characters in toy story
@blackhippy47149
@blackhippy47149 4 жыл бұрын
0v30 - Roblox screaming and shouting are synonyms you idiot
@Batman-sm2mz
@Batman-sm2mz 4 жыл бұрын
black hippy No they aren’t. Screaming is done out of fear or pain. Shouting is done out of anger.
@nslouka90
@nslouka90 4 жыл бұрын
cool beans sounds like modern day animal abuse
@imthegrayman
@imthegrayman 4 жыл бұрын
My God are you guys seriously arguing about yelling or shouting? Find something better to do
@emperorclaudius5499
@emperorclaudius5499 4 жыл бұрын
We see a glimpse of this Woody when he scares Sid in the first movie
@diegodubber2140
@diegodubber2140 4 жыл бұрын
We toooyys, can see [spinning his head à la Regan McNeil] eeeeeeeeev'ryyyyyyyythiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnn'! [springs life in front of the now terrorized Sid] So, play NICE!!!
@slion9914
@slion9914 5 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to become convinced that you're running a factory to make these videos because you produce them so often and with such good quality
@awesomeirlable
@awesomeirlable 5 жыл бұрын
It could very well be a corporate channel . And something tells me that he has people helping him research
@elijah-he975
@elijah-he975 5 жыл бұрын
He already has a main channel NerdWriter1 so this videos are probably just to get the channel started with plenty of content
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb 5 жыл бұрын
Elijah -HE what? This isn’t the same guy as Nerdwriter1 my man, this is a different person from Nerdwriter1
@Eagledude131
@Eagledude131 5 жыл бұрын
@@awesomeirlable not a corporate channel lol, but he has hired a few people, like at least an editor, to help him with the stuff to the best of my knowledge.
@elijah-he975
@elijah-he975 5 жыл бұрын
Dell12 16 Proof? I’m not 100% sure but they both have similar editing, the narrator is the same and the names are almost identical. “NERDwriter1” and “NERDstalgic”
@Birthnote
@Birthnote 4 жыл бұрын
This is basically Woody if he became the Lotso of Andy's Room
@EdgieAlias
@EdgieAlias 4 жыл бұрын
Bo peep's early death did it to him.
@emmanuelharris6445
@emmanuelharris6445 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdgieAlias What do you even mean?
@sammyjaohnson5631
@sammyjaohnson5631 3 жыл бұрын
I read that as andre room
@askerleaves1614
@askerleaves1614 3 жыл бұрын
@@emmanuelharris6445 is a joke don't think too much into it
@AnnoyingMoose
@AnnoyingMoose 3 жыл бұрын
...or Stinky Pete
@jindo5
@jindo5 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think an evil ventriloquist dummy Woody could be a cool villain. We've already had Buzz encounter other Buzzes, so reusing the mean, manipulative Black Friday Woody as a foil for the Woody we know and love could totally work.
@kimberleevroom2259
@kimberleevroom2259 5 жыл бұрын
I always appreciated Woody’s character. He had an attitude and was flawed. But he had such good character development and for a kid, that was a good lesson to learn. However, I’m also glad that this version of Woody was never fully realized.
@Wawagirl17
@Wawagirl17 5 жыл бұрын
Same. Not only do I consider the first Toy Story one of the best comedies of all time, it is a good lesson for kids, that even if you're a "good kid" you can still be overcome by jealousy and make mistakes, and learn to overcome that jealousy and share the spotlight. Delivering that lesson all while not being "in your face" about it like a PBS Kid's special. Honestly, it's a good story and lesson for all ages, not just kids.
@mrs.schmenkman
@mrs.schmenkman 5 жыл бұрын
You guys need to get a copy of "The Christmas Toy" TS is just a remake of it, and imho it's so much deeper and has more nuances than Toy Story
@levityoflonging22
@levityoflonging22 4 жыл бұрын
I found woody so relateable as a kid. Who hasn't experienced jealousy or felt like they were being replaced? The original version would not have resonated as strongly with the audience.
@Adamkalb1
@Adamkalb1 4 жыл бұрын
Of course! It wouldn't mean boo to the audience if this meaner Woody ever learned to treat Buzz better because of how bad this Woody started out. February 5, 2020, 2:02pm
@jakeystarsuper
@jakeystarsuper 2 жыл бұрын
I still think he would've been a good villain
@despacito2384
@despacito2384 5 жыл бұрын
*Plot Twist:* It appeared that Woody has an evil twin brother... *_"WE NEED MORE EDGE!!!"_* ~ Pixar
@Manic44
@Manic44 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't that basically what happened in toy story 2 with Buzz?
@lainhikaru5657
@lainhikaru5657 5 жыл бұрын
Wait,wait,wait! Is this a refference to that horror story? :D
@despacito2384
@despacito2384 5 жыл бұрын
@@lainhikaru5657 No. Lotso was based on the original concept of Woody. Even Lotso was originally intended to be in the first movie but due to lack of technology that makes fur texture, he was scrapped until in the third movie.
@somesadnormie5881
@somesadnormie5881 5 жыл бұрын
*THIS FILM NEEDS MORE EDGE*
@Nugcon
@Nugcon 5 жыл бұрын
Edgy teenagers be like
@nathang6376
@nathang6376 4 жыл бұрын
Even worse was hearing Bo-Peep accuse Woody and actively participate in throwing him out the window. Evil and cruel Woody aside, that part killed me within.
@Wandervenn
@Wandervenn 5 жыл бұрын
Also really interesting how they reworked the old versions of villain Woody into the sequels. Pete had Woody's cutthroat cruelty hidden behind his old west mannerisms, Lotso had his manipulation and power as a leader of toys, and Gabby is an old doll wanting to be accepted by a child who uses ventriloquist dummies as her servants to get what she wants. It's like after Toy Story they had Woody constantly battling the worst parts of himself which makes it all so much deeper.
@macmurfy2jka
@macmurfy2jka 5 жыл бұрын
TempleAmarok that’s great insight. Thanks.
@harrylane4
@harrylane4 5 жыл бұрын
I think Pete was *absolutely* designed as a rebuttal to the original Woody design. The other two may have evolved into that due to the themes of growing old and losing one's childhood, but Pete literally WAS a selfish, angry western doll. It's pretty clear.
@Merdicano
@Merdicano 5 жыл бұрын
That really opens up for me a lot of appreciation for Toy Story
@pepperonidrizzle2401
@pepperonidrizzle2401 5 жыл бұрын
Toy story = persona 4 confirmed?
@justsomeone4347
@justsomeone4347 4 жыл бұрын
The only reason the ventriloquist dummies worked for was Gabby wad because they need a puppet master. Gabby is the perfect puppet master.
@M3L0619
@M3L0619 5 жыл бұрын
It seems that when we humanize the villain, the story becomes much more interesting, relatable. When we dehumanize the villain, we become more at ease in their demise.
@vylbird8014
@vylbird8014 5 жыл бұрын
When I see a villain acting extra-horrible for no real reason, I interpret it as a signal of upcoming events: "We're about to end this character in a horrifically painful way, but first we'll make it apparent they are a real jerk so you don't have to feel guilty for reveling in their pain."
@Tw0Dots
@Tw0Dots 4 жыл бұрын
No shit
@jessicapinkman-hd4bw
@jessicapinkman-hd4bw Жыл бұрын
making you're villain 'sympathetic' doesn't automatically make it interesting
@AethernaLuxen
@AethernaLuxen 4 жыл бұрын
6:44 _who's the villain in Wall-E_ Bro that wheel looking dude
@the_fatcowboy8097
@the_fatcowboy8097 4 жыл бұрын
He is the most cold hearted in the world
@kobeschannel3506
@kobeschannel3506 4 жыл бұрын
*Auto*
@TheJinxCast
@TheJinxCast 4 жыл бұрын
Auto's a robot that was doing his job.
@AethernaLuxen
@AethernaLuxen 4 жыл бұрын
@OpticalJW All robots in that movie have awareness, even if it meant abandoning its only job
@SonOfAFridge_
@SonOfAFridge_ 3 жыл бұрын
Auto was inspired by HAL 9000 i guess
@bunnybunbun2660
@bunnybunbun2660 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly just hearing woody’s voice and insults made me feel bad
@thunderbird1921
@thunderbird1921 5 жыл бұрын
Crazy fact: Toy Story 2 was almost a dark film as well (but not this dark). Disney was planning a straight-up heroes (Buzz and Woody) vs crazy villain film until Pixar regained full control of production. They almost completely rewrote it, and made it the emotional masterpiece so many love.
@bunnybunbun2660
@bunnybunbun2660 5 жыл бұрын
Thunderbird 1 imagine having toy story as a horror film
@thunderbird1921
@thunderbird1921 5 жыл бұрын
@@bunnybunbun2660 Have you seen Toy Story of Terror? They kinda did that (although it feels more like a horror comedy mixed with a spy thriller).
@nathang6376
@nathang6376 4 жыл бұрын
Evil Woody aside, seeing Bo-Peep accuse Woody, and actively participate in throwing him out the window, killed me inside.
@KermodeTheLemon
@KermodeTheLemon 4 жыл бұрын
Correction: Coco has a villain, Ernesto de la Cruz He killed Hector, stole his music, and even attempted to kill Hector AGAIN in the Land of the Dead after he pushed Hector into the pit with Miguel Ernesto de la Cruz even tried to kill Miguel which was when at that point the entire Land of the Dead(or the once living humans that were there) saw Ernesto hold Miguel and drop him down off the ledge of the building
@ThRealBendario
@ThRealBendario 4 жыл бұрын
Most of the movies they brought up had villains, but I guess that didn't fit the argument. Monsters Inc had 2 (and a half) with one being hand-waived, Wall-E had Auto, Up had Muntz, and Ratatouille had Chef Skinner (they were right about Ego not really being a villain so much as a goal or standard).
@nathang6376
@nathang6376 4 жыл бұрын
The difference between Pixar villains and conventional villains is that many times it is the hero who invades the villains territory. Conventional villains have an agenda in place, which they attempt to impose on the heroes and their worlds in some way. Pixar heroes, on the other hand, seem to stumble into the villain's already established worlds and unintentionally transform into the very forces that overturn them.
@emanuela9611ify
@emanuela9611ify 4 жыл бұрын
He said that either there weren't villains or that they weren't as important to the story as the emotionals part, not that every movie he showed didn't have one
@sealink129
@sealink129 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but up until the last 30 minutes of the movie, there isn’t even a villain. It’s focused on Miguel finding a way to gain his family’s acceptance of music, while also returning to the Land of the Living, through Ernesto’s blessing. In fact, we only find out Ernesto is the villain because Hector shows up at the very end. But they never really went into Ernesto’s past or anything, outside of Hector’s death, but he’s definitely more complex of a character than traditional Disney villains were. But really, he’s only there to sway the narrative of the main story and raise the stakes. If Ernesto hadn’t have thrown them in the sinkhole and instead, had just killed Miguel or put him somewhere else, neither would have realized their relation, and in turn, the goal changes from gaining musical acceptance for himself, and instead, familial acceptance for his long lost great-great-grandfather who had wrongly been killed before he could apologize to his wife for leaving. He’s no longer fighting for his own wants, but for the needs of his family, living and dead, those being their connection to Hector and Coco, and their generations-old hatred of music.
@j.nicolosi6647
@j.nicolosi6647 4 жыл бұрын
A Bug’s Life had Hopper. Literally the second PIXAR film ever. I mean, Toy Story 2 literally had what three, four villains? Lol
@livvlife
@livvlife 3 жыл бұрын
This is so weird to see because i loved woody growing up (the new version, obviously) it’s kinda creepy seeing him act like that because we know him now as a great character with a big heart.
@jessicapinkman-hd4bw
@jessicapinkman-hd4bw Жыл бұрын
um no he's still an asshole in the actual movie
@alfa01spotivo
@alfa01spotivo 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but i say there's still a place for charismatic evil villains. Villains like Cruella, Scar and Jafar are very fun to watch, memorable and help the movie by a lot. They are much better than Disney's now lame twist villains with barely any charisma or memorable character or personality. Give me Maleficent over sheep from Zootopia any day
@fist-of-doom487
@fist-of-doom487 5 жыл бұрын
I love the entertaining unapologetically evil characters. Maleficent is Disney’s golden standard for pure evil characters done right. Their was no excuse for how she acted or what she did, even Scar, Jafar and Hades had proper motivation for being evil. Maleficent is evil from the start, is feared and respected in equal measure and committed evil for petty reasons just because she can and enjoyed every moment.
@TheDJYosh
@TheDJYosh 5 жыл бұрын
I think the problem was that Black Friday Woody actually just sounds like an abusive step-dad. It wasn't the exaggerated charismatic evil it just made kids feel like Dad was drunk again.
@Burn_Angel
@Burn_Angel 5 жыл бұрын
Well, those are from Disney, not Pixar.
@abiwonkenabi7027
@abiwonkenabi7027 5 жыл бұрын
I think villains like Bellwether (the sheep) have their place and can serve a story better. For one example, Zootopia was all about perception of social groups, so having a twist villain and challenging Judy's perceptions serves the story and themes. Hans of Frozen was also similarly mostly a plot device, the focus was on the sisters and their love for each other, so the typical fairy tale love with Hans is shown as often too good to be true in favor of sisterly love (although they kind of cheat with Christoph, but whatever. The focus was clearly on the sisters). I agree that more "evil" charismatic and fun to watch villains have their place too, and I like seeing both.
@tiajoseph7309
@tiajoseph7309 5 жыл бұрын
This is why I love Izma and Krunk so much from the Emperor's New Groove.
@CentipedePrincess
@CentipedePrincess 5 жыл бұрын
Okay so Woody is horrible here but that's kind of like the most impressive voice work from Tom Hanks and I'm kind of bummed we didn't get that lol
@mrs.schmenkman
@mrs.schmenkman 5 жыл бұрын
Centipede Princess I'm sorry, but I think we have plenty of Tom Hanks yelling at stuff
@thethrashyone
@thethrashyone 5 жыл бұрын
@@mrs.schmenkman "plenty" isn't how you spell "not nearly enough", you silly goose.
@animalavenger6133
@animalavenger6133 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it would have been good if they would have been able to do something like Toy Story 2 with the Other Buzz,
@Tw0Dots
@Tw0Dots 4 жыл бұрын
Zoe Kin he is
@Kenny-ep2nf
@Kenny-ep2nf 2 жыл бұрын
Woody was gonna be like Lotso?
@randompensamientos9802
@randompensamientos9802 4 жыл бұрын
That Woody is terrifying! Truly abusive.
@apidas
@apidas 3 жыл бұрын
oh you would love that wouldn't you abusive, toxic, all the words you ever want to use. to think about it is already make you wet or not. you might be a decent human
@tommychappell6359
@tommychappell6359 3 жыл бұрын
@@apidas I think what he is trying to say.. is that we live in society that likes to judge people.. or label them.. and tbh.. though unpopular.. I agree with him.. we do judge a lot.. also there is a big difference between abusive and being passionate.. To feel strongly in one's own convictions about particular thing/cause/topic/theme.. but often the two are mixed up.. even with someone who is accused of being abusive, it's too biased to say what was actually in their own mind/head/experiences.. Though yes are many distinctions between them.. and many times things are clear/less clear than what we choose to believe.. we should live in a society that listens to what other people have to say not shut them down.. being able to express one's own thoughts/opinions is a product of a free society and also one that is full of compassion/heart.. but do so respectfully.. we must seek to understand the other.. and remain patient and have heart.. I believe it is the product of an imperfect (semi- makeshift) society.. one that is not fully complete.. where people are given the true merit of what they actually deserve.. it's more of human based society than it is a scientific/where one strives to understand the other. where we have limits, is where there is unfortunately injustice.. as with most things.. there is often a multi-layered/multi-faceted aspects to story we have to tell..
@sirrdapo1882
@sirrdapo1882 3 жыл бұрын
Snowflake clealry born in 2005+
@Whocares158
@Whocares158 2 жыл бұрын
You are abusive yourself sweetie~💕 😊
@Lu.igi.
@Lu.igi. 2 жыл бұрын
what are these replies lmao
@Cervidae
@Cervidae 5 жыл бұрын
*_WHO SAID YOUR JOB WAS TO THINK, SPRINGWEINER?!_*
@Slender_Man_186
@Slender_Man_186 4 жыл бұрын
You can tell he said “springdick” in the original tale of that line.
@dragonick2947
@dragonick2947 3 жыл бұрын
@@Slender_Man_186 I very much doubt that, since "weiner" is supposed to refer to Slinky being a dachshund, a breed of dog often called a "sausage dog" for their long and chubby bodies.
@lyokianhitchhiker
@lyokianhitchhiker 3 жыл бұрын
@@dragonick2947 It also works as a double entendre.
@madcasual1111
@madcasual1111 5 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting that woody was originally a ventriloquist dummy and then in the last movie there was a ventriloquist dummy
@dangermenatwork
@dangermenatwork 4 жыл бұрын
the ventriloquist dummies in toy story 4 gave me actual nightmares
@tor12298
@tor12298 4 жыл бұрын
DANGER MEN AT WORK They made me think of Slappy from goosebumps
@rattyeely
@rattyeely 4 жыл бұрын
They look like they were modeled after Woody's old design
@madcasual1111
@madcasual1111 4 жыл бұрын
UmUrso Amarelado ..... I said it was interesting not that it meant anything
@madcasual1111
@madcasual1111 4 жыл бұрын
UmUrso Amarelado relax professor it’s talking toys I didn’t think you were so dedicated to it
@maximumpink8487
@maximumpink8487 4 жыл бұрын
I will forever find it scary to hear Tom Hanks voice Woody like this
@aemontrembath683
@aemontrembath683 13 күн бұрын
True god man. I agree
@isle-delfino
@isle-delfino 5 жыл бұрын
Hearing & seeing Woody be so mean is so... Disconcerting. Don't like that. :(
@thunderbird1921
@thunderbird1921 5 жыл бұрын
Black Friday Woody showed up in that car scene in Toy Story 3. How quickly people forget. A total BULLY. I absolutely HATE that scene for what it made him.
@tysargent9647
@tysargent9647 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't Lotso pretty much Black Friday Woody 2.0?
@justyouraveragemartian783
@justyouraveragemartian783 4 жыл бұрын
whats black friday woody??
@dragondog7886
@dragondog7886 4 жыл бұрын
@@justyouraveragemartian783 The Woody this video talks about in the initial draft of Toty Story
@justyouraveragemartian783
@justyouraveragemartian783 4 жыл бұрын
@@dragondog7886 ohhhhhh thank you
@loveyallyangu
@loveyallyangu 5 жыл бұрын
Chill OUT Woody, chill. When you were running the animatic with Woody yelling at Slinky, I felt like he was yelling at me personally and it scared me a bit. Woody was my favorite character in the movie as a little kid, and still my fav now.
@the_dino_is_mad
@the_dino_is_mad 4 жыл бұрын
Good Woody: YOU. ARE A. JEEERK!!
@aryavs430
@aryavs430 4 жыл бұрын
I just noticed Woody's first words were "reach for the sky" and his last were "and beyond"
@jessetorres8738
@jessetorres8738 5 жыл бұрын
I'm actually curious as to what the rest of the film would have been like if they finished this version of it.
@papabumba478
@papabumba478 5 жыл бұрын
Since it was hero vs villain, I imagine the other toys would have gone and rescued Buzz, then had a showdown and got rid of Woody. in the Epilogue Andy would question it at first, but because Buzz is the new toy with a new exciting show, he’d forget about Woody and Buzz would take his place, and he’d start playing with all his toys with Buzz being the hero.
@Wawagirl17
@Wawagirl17 5 жыл бұрын
@@papabumba478 Geez, that alternate version makes me sad just to think about. It's so wrong, lol.
@papabumba478
@papabumba478 5 жыл бұрын
Wawagirl17 haha yeah, now we have known woody as a good guy for 20 years it sounds odd to be talking about killing him/getting rid of him as a positive. I just imagine that’s how it would have gone considering in the film that’s sort of how it starts with Woody being jealous and worried Andy will forget about him in favour of new toy Buzz.
@thunderbird1921
@thunderbird1921 5 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, some people intensely disliked Jessie at first when she was introduced for similar reasons to this Woody version. She was not only very bitter at first, she nearly rips off Woody's other arm in a fit of rage. If that wasn't rough enough, the TS2 promotional art shows her grinning and winking arrogantly. What saved her character is they had her discover the truth through Woody, drop her bitterness and become a FAR more humble, loving and caring character (both in the second and third films). When they did that, Jessie's popularity SOARED. Now she's one of the most loved in the whole franchise.
@SciBertAndAlvsBert
@SciBertAndAlvsBert 5 жыл бұрын
Woody would've killed sid
@AC34D
@AC34D 5 жыл бұрын
They took the concept that didn’t work for Toy Story and applied it to Bug’s Life if you really pay attention. And it worked.
@harrylane4
@harrylane4 5 жыл бұрын
Sorta. A bugs life is still my least favorite Pixar movie pre-Good Dinosaur (yes, that includes cars 2). I think it's unoriginal and kind of lazy, and the racial jokes are a pretty bad take..
@Juan-zs6jt
@Juan-zs6jt 5 жыл бұрын
@@harrylane4 Bugs Life's is probably among the most sinful of Pixar's catalogue, with its biggest sin being so forgettable. The main character doesn't have a unique design, when he is on-screen with the other ants he gets lost. The villain is very outlined unlike its predecessor or other Pixar movies. The grasshopper oppresses the ants just because and he is The villain to defeat, in TS Woody is not the villain for being jealous, Buzz is not the villain for altering Woody's life, and Sid is not the villain, he is just a kid playing with his toys, unaware they are alive, and the movie is not about defeating him. Liar reveal is almost always a negative because it is cliché and tedious to watch. The movie being so old doesn't help the movie one bit, the textures and models are an eyesore.
@thethrashyone
@thethrashyone 5 жыл бұрын
@@harrylane4 Jokes are not a "take" on anything, hence why they're _jokes_ and not presentations of fact (perceived or otherwise).
@kylamamber9080
@kylamamber9080 5 жыл бұрын
I like Bug's Life, it's cute and simple. Plus I really like Hopper. Not every story needs to have a big eye opener. 😊
@JovanaSanchez000
@JovanaSanchez000 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of the movie were the circus bugs.
@anf9311
@anf9311 4 жыл бұрын
2:12 I felt Slinky when that Hey Arnold music hit 😔
@peterporker6449
@peterporker6449 5 жыл бұрын
Did did woody just *YEET* buzz out the window
@Matsu_Suzuki16
@Matsu_Suzuki16 4 жыл бұрын
He certainly did
@nina149141v
@nina149141v 4 жыл бұрын
He did did
@WxIxLxLxIxAxMxS
@WxIxLxLxIxAxMxS 4 жыл бұрын
Yeet-haw, partner!
@Glamrock-Sakura
@Glamrock-Sakura 4 жыл бұрын
@@WxIxLxLxIxAxMxS you've yeed your last haw
@logan6034
@logan6034 4 жыл бұрын
Correct correct
@MemeticMutant
@MemeticMutant 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have like a backlog of videos you spent years making ahead of time
@davidmckesey7119
@davidmckesey7119 5 жыл бұрын
He is ahead of his time somehow
@skyluke9476
@skyluke9476 5 жыл бұрын
timetravel
@Wawagirl17
@Wawagirl17 5 жыл бұрын
Right? The speed and production value are amazing!
@herrtituswinslow4717
@herrtituswinslow4717 4 жыл бұрын
Andy *plays with Buzz instead* Woody: murders him at night
@VJ4rawr2
@VJ4rawr2 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, your editing skills are amazing. I love the effort you've put into transitions and explanatory shots. This is super high quality production values. Great job!
@imoor1
@imoor1 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who considers Toy Story the best movie of all time.....I lowkey wonder what this original version would of been like lmao....I mean would the audience accept his redemption later on....or would they be appauled by the first half!?
@squiddler7731
@squiddler7731 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think he was meant to be redeemed in the original version. It sounded like the original Woody was just a full-on villain, meant to be overcome and beaten by the heros like a typical Disney antagonist
@RicoSalazar110
@RicoSalazar110 5 жыл бұрын
IKR! i would love to see an alternate version of this!
@michaelstrong5383
@michaelstrong5383 5 жыл бұрын
That was Disney's request to make Toy Story edgy and adult. Keep in mind, this was when Katzenberg was in charge. Once they screened the entire first half, especially the part where Woody throws Buzz out the window, everyone hated it. Katzenberg asked why it was so terrible, and his colleague replied "Because it's not their movie anymore."
@mixiekins
@mixiekins 5 жыл бұрын
Hm, perhaps they played with the idea of revisiting the black Friday woody with that purple Lots'O bear in the 3rd one. I'm glad they did, it was something a little different; They did a great job with Ernesto de la Cuz by getting you to like him and feel the same betrayal as Miguel did.
@papabumba478
@papabumba478 5 жыл бұрын
Cari Garafalo Lotso wasn’t flat out evil though. He actually believed what he was doing was for the best because kids will forget and move on, if they stayed at the school they would never stop being played with. To stay in heaven they had to sacrifice some toys, the new toys were easier to sacrifice as they didn’t know them. Woody here was just evil and jealous Buzz was the new toy so attempted to kill him.
@johncooper4874
@johncooper4874 4 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the Pixar documentary and I believe that Disney asked Pixar to create an edgy storyline. I think them forcing the writers to re create Toy Story was for the better, but like they asked for edgy and they essentially got it lol.
@kxtyusha
@kxtyusha 5 жыл бұрын
“Toy Story is a story about redemption” Redemption? 🤔 Cowboy? 🤔 Red Dead Redemption 😎
@Chris-mc2dt
@Chris-mc2dt 5 жыл бұрын
Compare Uncle to Stinky Pete 🧐
@mariic2
@mariic2 4 жыл бұрын
Justice ain't no lady, she's a twisted, battered whore.
@MarinGrushke-yu5qp
@MarinGrushke-yu5qp 4 жыл бұрын
I preferred Entry Point
@cheesetouchgamingtwo4619
@cheesetouchgamingtwo4619 4 жыл бұрын
I saw that part and looked for this comment
@steliosliagkos
@steliosliagkos 4 жыл бұрын
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@jasperanimals7848
@jasperanimals7848 4 жыл бұрын
"You dont deserve to wear a 10 gallon hat on ur pint sized head" Never thought I'd hear that but here we are
@Gummydargon
@Gummydargon 4 жыл бұрын
Dude when I was younger I remember watching this and loved every moment of it.. not just because of the pretty colors or the fact that they were talking toys. But the moment when I realized that woody had a "bad side" but also had a good conscience when he did something wrong. And that for me made me love Woody from the beginning. He made mistakes but learned from them. Plus that Buzz amputated arm trick when he was in Sid's room always made me laugh!😂😂
@diegodubber2140
@diegodubber2140 4 жыл бұрын
"Ha, ha! Really funny Buzz... 😏😏 THIS IS SERIOUS!!! 😡😡"
@WhiteJarrah
@WhiteJarrah 5 жыл бұрын
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I would LOVE to see this version of Woody appear as an antagonist in a future Toy Story film. Not the Woody we know and love, but a different toy from the same assembly line who obviously went off the deep end at some stage. Toys are mass produced, there's bound to be some bad batches along the way. Why not make this Woody one from said bad batch?
@Stratelier
@Stratelier 5 жыл бұрын
Like how Two Story 2 had Andy's Buzz Lightyear versus toy-store-display Buzz Lightyear?
@NegaTheImpmon9508
@NegaTheImpmon9508 4 жыл бұрын
@@Stratelier yes, exactly! I would ADORE seeing that!
@Slender_Man_186
@Slender_Man_186 4 жыл бұрын
I love it, it should happen.
@sonicSnap
@sonicSnap 4 жыл бұрын
isn't woody one of a kind though? i thought somewhere in the lore it says woody was from like a contest or something
@WhiteJarrah
@WhiteJarrah 4 жыл бұрын
@@sonicSnap They said he is a rare antique toy. That doesn't mean there aren't more of him left.
@kasper7574
@kasper7574 2 жыл бұрын
calling Slinky "Spring Weiner" is absolute comedic gold!
@Wario_Man
@Wario_Man 5 жыл бұрын
Virgin good woody vs Chad sinister woody
@Wario_Man
@Wario_Man 5 жыл бұрын
@@RV-fo8xj vs Thad goody woody
@capnm4078
@capnm4078 5 жыл бұрын
Gad Erotic Fanfic Woody
@Wario_Man
@Wario_Man 5 жыл бұрын
@@capnm4078 vs wizard lost toy woody
@MLBlue30
@MLBlue30 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah Good Woody had friends and a girl toy who liked him. Evil Woody would be the creepy incel.
@_-Lx-_
@_-Lx-_ 5 жыл бұрын
Other way around
@Fomortiis100
@Fomortiis100 5 жыл бұрын
I wanna see the alternate history where Pixar's black friday reel was successful and they went on to create more adult-oriented animation from that point onward.
@Firebrand511
@Firebrand511 4 жыл бұрын
I think we would have lived in a universe where traditional animation is mainly associated with kids, while CGI is for the adult demographic.
@jessicamurphy5553
@jessicamurphy5553 4 жыл бұрын
“You would have been hung away to goodwill a long time ago” that line though 🤣🤣 10/10
@CarlsCozyCorner
@CarlsCozyCorner 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't argue that moana has a villain. The lava monster was the result of a mistake made by a guy who just wanted to be loved.
@noahdavis7406
@noahdavis7406 5 жыл бұрын
9:17 This is a scene I genuinely get so ecstatic about that it makes me want to scream in happiness in the same way Woody is. It remains the most iconic scene in any movie in my opinion and while I understand why you cut it short, I felt sad that it was.
@gnbman
@gnbman 2 жыл бұрын
To people who have seen Pixar's recent movies: Do they still hold up to these sorts of standards?
@LouiSwagula
@LouiSwagula 5 жыл бұрын
This channel has really been scratching my “actual thoughtful analysis of animation that isn’t a dude ranting about how modern cartoons suck” itch that I’ve been having ever since Every Frame A Painting retired.
@j.nicolosi6647
@j.nicolosi6647 4 жыл бұрын
Check out DazzReviews
@unoriginal1562
@unoriginal1562 5 жыл бұрын
“Who is the villain of Wall-e?” Me: Auto
@scourge8143
@scourge8143 5 жыл бұрын
Me: Obesity/Laziness
@joshuastudios6199
@joshuastudios6199 5 жыл бұрын
Me: YOU IDIOT
@Nyanarchyy
@Nyanarchyy 5 жыл бұрын
Auto is just a Robot programmed to do its job nothing else
@amaris145
@amaris145 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was spelled Otto?
@Archmageeoffical
@Archmageeoffical 4 жыл бұрын
Unoriginal 156 umbrella nigga
@retsu9347
@retsu9347 2 жыл бұрын
Woody acting mean feels like the teacher you liked in middle school yelling at you.
@Whovian173
@Whovian173 5 жыл бұрын
But really, this guy has been uploading videos for less than two months and theyre already at this high level of quality??
@leino315
@leino315 5 жыл бұрын
No hes been uploading videos on a gaming channel on too tall desk for a couple years now
@AngryNerdBird
@AngryNerdBird 5 жыл бұрын
The villain of Wall-E is AUTO, though. There's even a fight to stop him in the third act.
@vylbird8014
@vylbird8014 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know if villain is the right term. Antagonist, certainly - their role in the story is very clearly that of the antagonist. But villain? AUTO isn't really evil, self-serving or ill-intentioned, in the same way that a villain is. AUTO is just an automatic system following instructions which seemed reasonable at the time they were issued. There's no moral judgement, and I don't know if you can have a villain without a moral judgement. AUTO is more just a force that needs to be overcome, like a natural disaster.
@dhgmrz17
@dhgmrz17 5 жыл бұрын
@@vylbird8014 What about Lotso in Toy Story 3? Sure his story was tragic, but uses the hurt to become evil, self-serving and full of ill-intent. Even by the end when he had a chance to be redeemed, he chose to save himself and leave Woody and his friends to be burned.
@vylbird8014
@vylbird8014 5 жыл бұрын
@@dhgmrz17 Lotso is a villain, certainly. Meets all the criteria.
@michaelmoss9198
@michaelmoss9198 3 жыл бұрын
This deleted scene I found on DVD was so disturbing as a kid
@Nerdstalgic
@Nerdstalgic 5 жыл бұрын
What is your favorite Pixar movie? Also: Cut a line about Cohen vs coen so the joke isn’t there, but to be clear, not of the Coen brothers!
@girlinawolfhoodiewolf2426
@girlinawolfhoodiewolf2426 5 жыл бұрын
Brave And bugs life,also amazing video😻
@gamefreaknitro
@gamefreaknitro 5 жыл бұрын
The one with the lamp
@michaelstrong5383
@michaelstrong5383 5 жыл бұрын
The Incredibles, WALL-E & Up are a three-way tie for my favorite Pixar film
@daviddo658
@daviddo658 5 жыл бұрын
Either Brave or Monsters Inc.
@randygriffin9801
@randygriffin9801 5 жыл бұрын
Wall-E, for sure
@ttracs
@ttracs 5 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if this version of woody came into the movies later from a different store like the other buzz
@sydney7972
@sydney7972 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I would love too see the scene where woody yells at slinky animated.
@tonycamacho3015
@tonycamacho3015 5 жыл бұрын
Tom Hanks is a national treasure... can’t imagine him EVIL
@danross4770
@danross4770 4 жыл бұрын
He's a villain in Ladykillers (2004)
@mr.classicragememerook96
@mr.classicragememerook96 4 жыл бұрын
@@danross4770 might be an exception
@flightschool1016
@flightschool1016 4 жыл бұрын
This didnt age well 😭
@leepurplecat
@leepurplecat 4 жыл бұрын
@@flightschool1016 what do you mean? Not trying to call you out or anything but I haven’t heard anywhere that Tom hanks has done anything
@flightschool1016
@flightschool1016 4 жыл бұрын
@@leepurplecat I honestly dont even remember making this comment 😭, but I think i was referring to the child trafficking "wayfair" thing when people like Ellen DeGeneres and others were getting exposed on the internet. Alot of celebrities were involved including your beloved Tom Hanks. Look into it
@rwulf
@rwulf 5 жыл бұрын
“pregidous” I guess there was a stab at spelling a word in there
@gummypuss69
@gummypuss69 4 жыл бұрын
prejudice
@atimholt
@atimholt 4 жыл бұрын
@@gummypuss69 Judgement made preemptively.
@bradchambers5886
@bradchambers5886 4 жыл бұрын
This is a surprisingly common misspelling. A quick search finds it everywhere. I suppose it makes a bit of sense phonetically but if you think of roots, what does pregiding(to pregide) mean?
@foureyedpossum4613
@foureyedpossum4613 4 жыл бұрын
"The darkest moment in Pixar's history" Soul's trailer: "I'm bout to ruin this man's whole career"
@ammercedes3591
@ammercedes3591 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, what was wrong with the trailer?
@banjofangirl3458
@banjofangirl3458 2 жыл бұрын
@@ammercedes3591 maybe not anything, other than that this guy hates societal progress /hyp
@jamesgoines4635
@jamesgoines4635 5 жыл бұрын
Lol the regular guy voice for slinky is hilarious. When going next to Tom Hank’s Woody.
@mixmakmax2847
@mixmakmax2847 5 жыл бұрын
C.G.I = Computer Generated Animation?? That's not the acronym.
@bathroomshy
@bathroomshy 5 жыл бұрын
CGA
@jsdouglas2612
@jsdouglas2612 5 жыл бұрын
Computer Generated Imagery
@whodatninja439
@whodatninja439 5 жыл бұрын
Also, Pregidous? Wtf is that?
@starsplaylists9113
@starsplaylists9113 5 жыл бұрын
Who Dat Ninja Oml 😂
@TookyClothespin.
@TookyClothespin. 5 жыл бұрын
Who Dat Ninja - time stamp please?
@sosayweall_jpg
@sosayweall_jpg 3 жыл бұрын
Plenty of Pixar films have villains that play the role of a villain. Heck even in a couple of your examples Randle/Waternoose are pretty traditionally villainous. Conflict between Mike and Sully is certainly a big feature of the resolution, but the fear-narrative of children being toxic as a fraud perpetuated by Waternoose to keep selling scare energy, and Randall’s more direct antagonizing as well as his being “in” on the overarching scheme.. these are typical villainous traits and they’re the main conflict and resolution of the plot In Ratatouille, Ego is an antagonist but not a villain and he ends up being sort of.. redeemed, in the eyes of the film from his more like, “mean” natured reviews. He does sort of create the situation however, with his review taking the Gusteau stars and the implication that his restaurant failing is what kills Gusteau. And that ushers in the plot. Discovering that fact is also what exposes Remy and the rats and leads to them going to Paris. But Chef Skinner is the villain, with pretty typical villainous actions and intents. He has it out for Linguine, he’s power and money-hungry wanting to cheapen Gusteau’s name and image to profit for himself.. spying on and trying to expose Linguine and Remy. Skinner is the main antagonist and villain, though not as “evil” as most villains are. Auto in Wall-E is as much a villain as HAL on which he’s based. He’s not malicious in a human way, but he does fight against humans and Wall-E to preserve the status quo when he’s presented with opposition. He and the little robot crony he has do villainous things like attempt to destroy Wall-E, the other defective bots, the plant. All to keep the humans placated and status quo retained. That’s his motive. Other films have extremely typical villains like Syndrome, Lotso huggin bear, Hopper, Charles Muntz, Chick Hicks, Ernesto de la Cruz. Not every film, but a lot do. There can exist an internal protagonist conflict in addition to an external villain/hero one. Stories aren’t limited to 1 conflict.
@rolmodel12.
@rolmodel12. 3 жыл бұрын
Well done! Good argument, with good examples, and well thought out. I enjoyed reading your argument, and agree, completely: stories can have multiple conflicts, and still be just fine. Too many, is a problem. Too little... and you have no story, not a great one anyway. There need's to be motivation, and meaning, FOR the story. Those multiple conflict's help give more depth to the character's involved. Making them more human- and therefore, more relatable, as we are not limited, ourselves, to one primary conflict in life. People, and characters, need/should have to struggle (conflict)- it builds character (pun, very much, intended), enhances attributes, and allow's one to have a better payoff: both in the real world, and the one's we write to reflect it.
@benf8252
@benf8252 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice how butchered the spelling of prejudice is? "Pregidous" is a new one to me lol
@failedsocialexperiment2382
@failedsocialexperiment2382 5 жыл бұрын
All I know is that it is an Arabic, Russian and German word, a romanization of the word, of course.
@bobsonny
@bobsonny 5 жыл бұрын
Was really hoping that's not what he was going for. That's an embarrassingly bad misspelling...
@spong266
@spong266 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it's meant to be prodigious. Edit: No wait hang on a sec you're absolutely right. That is pretty bad.
@shelfdefence1112
@shelfdefence1112 5 жыл бұрын
Look everybody! Somebody made a mistake on the internet!
@firebert2000
@firebert2000 5 жыл бұрын
I just figured it was just a word I didn't know! 😂
@angelthedog7614
@angelthedog7614 5 жыл бұрын
Woody: *LEGIT YEETS BUZZ OUT THE WINDOW*
@Xzanah
@Xzanah 3 жыл бұрын
Jeez, that intro animation is absolutely amazing EDIT: all the animations are absolutely amazing.
@RobertFJr
@RobertFJr 5 жыл бұрын
These Woody lines are good SFM or YTP material
@dcamaraman939
@dcamaraman939 5 жыл бұрын
The closest we'll get to an evil Tom Hanks
@BenStommes
@BenStommes 3 жыл бұрын
The reason why Woody was so unlikeable in this version is because Disney was pushing Pixar to make the movie "edgy," like more adult in tone, and this was the result. Once the executives saw how bad it was, they encouraged Pixar to scrap it and write the characters the way they actually wanted.
@lemeres2478
@lemeres2478 5 жыл бұрын
When Pixar has a villain... they are only involved LONG down the line of the story. The first few acts are about the characters dealing with the world around them. Wall-E has to go from a world ruined by human decadence, and then go to that excess's new heights, before we ever see the Wheel. In Monster's INC, they have to encounter the child and struggle with between their desire to protect the child and their society that views it as a threat- long before the snake man and evil CEO get directly involved. The villain is more of the heightened representation of the conflicting forces the characters had to deal with before that.
@bobdobalina2931
@bobdobalina2931 4 жыл бұрын
Surely Al from Al's Toybarn was a villain as was Stinky Pete to some degree. These were both clear cut villains with no arc of redemption. And we're talking about the very next film in the series.
@iknowme
@iknowme 3 жыл бұрын
And Sid in the first film is a massive villain
@writteninthestars02
@writteninthestars02 2 жыл бұрын
@@iknowme I wouldn't say is like purposeful villain though. Yeah he blows up his toys which is horrible to us knowing they're alive but to him he's just messing around.
@jessicapinkman-hd4bw
@jessicapinkman-hd4bw Жыл бұрын
​@@iknowmesid didn't even know the toy's we're alive
@tessil2148
@tessil2148 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for makeing this video it was awesome thank you💜💜💜
@Wonderouz
@Wonderouz 5 жыл бұрын
0:52 i finally get to hear what he said before woody shut him up (in the film)
@socialaccount0000
@socialaccount0000 4 жыл бұрын
If we ever get a Toy Story 5, it should be Andy finding and buying (likely a replica due to how rare Woody was in Toy Story 2) a replacement to Woody, which would nearly break Woody since after Toy Story 4, he finally moved on from Andy. But seeing that Andy didn't even think of him besides a collection urges Woody to try and force himself back into Andy's life to replace the replacement. Said replacement, the replica, would be this "Black Friday" Woody. Bitter, lack of remorse, etc. And the movie would essentially be Woody facing his inner demons, he has greed, he (despite letting Andy go) still remembers him and his heartbroken to see he was replaced. And this evil Woody would essentially be a Woody that let these feelings consume him. (Maybe an Adult Andy gets very similar toys to the ones he had as a kid. Complete with a replica Buzz and Woody.)
@alejandrarivera9796
@alejandrarivera9796 4 жыл бұрын
I'd pay real money to see that movie now
@saturdaymorningcartoon6076
@saturdaymorningcartoon6076 4 жыл бұрын
Pixar has to see this comment
@callumjohnston35
@callumjohnston35 4 жыл бұрын
why would an adult andy buy toys for himself?
@joshthehollow5254
@joshthehollow5254 4 жыл бұрын
@@callumjohnston35 Maybe Andy at that point could have a family and wanted to buy toys for his kids?
@aworte3266
@aworte3266 3 жыл бұрын
Just let the franchise die peacefully
@potaters3009
@potaters3009 3 жыл бұрын
In some alternate universe...this is in the official movie and the Black Friday wheel was the normal woody that we see from the movie
@InvaderWeezle
@InvaderWeezle 5 жыл бұрын
Calling Joel Cohen a master of storytelling is being extremely generous. Toy Story is by far the best movie he's worked on, everything else he's known for is stuff like the live-action Garfield movies, Cheaper By The Dozen, and Evan Almighty.
@michaelstrong5383
@michaelstrong5383 5 жыл бұрын
Even Bill Murray thought he was Joel Coen, one half of the Coen Brothers, which was why he wanted to play Garfield to begin with.
@princessthyemis
@princessthyemis 5 жыл бұрын
Evan Almighty? Eh, I didn't think it was that bad!
@mrs.schmenkman
@mrs.schmenkman 5 жыл бұрын
Considering Toy Story is a remake of 1986 Jim Henson production movie called "The Christmas Toy" made for the Disney Channel and the creators have never admitted it I get why he mistakenly gives Way TO MUCH CREDIT to the makers of Toy Story.
@InvaderWeezle
@InvaderWeezle 5 жыл бұрын
@@mrs.schmenkman Ok that's just ridiculous. Literally the only thing The Christmas Toy has in common with Toy Story is that they're about toys coming to life. It's otherwise a completely different story.
@whodatninja439
@whodatninja439 5 жыл бұрын
lmao i'm laughing so hard right. What a poorly researched video
@xxtz2007xx
@xxtz2007xx 5 жыл бұрын
I don't want to be "that guy," but... that's not how you spell "Prejudice." Great video, but that bugged me when it came up.
@babbaglabba2912
@babbaglabba2912 5 жыл бұрын
He said C.G.A too
@Sp1d3rpool91
@Sp1d3rpool91 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad he didn’t became a sociopath in the final cut.
@chr0min0id
@chr0min0id 4 жыл бұрын
Directors: *Give me the most evil laugh that you can pull from you soul* Tom Hanks: 2:07
@potaters3009
@potaters3009 3 жыл бұрын
*meanwhile gives the most nice sounding laugh*
@domtraini4889
@domtraini4889 5 жыл бұрын
I kinda like evil woody.... Imagine the character arc he could go through!
@jamestolbert1856
@jamestolbert1856 5 ай бұрын
Thank God that we didn’t show this Woody in the final cut
@redwhiteandvibranium120
@redwhiteandvibranium120 5 жыл бұрын
Still waiting on Pixar to release more of the Black Friday Reel.
@IloveHirotaka
@IloveHirotaka 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe they were actually going to portray Woody like that and hearing him actually say those things...
@dyl_pickle16-mta48
@dyl_pickle16-mta48 2 жыл бұрын
4:18 That music just gave me a huge amount of nostalgia. It comes from the SEGA Genesis version of the first Toy Story video game. I still own my old SEGA Genesis, and Toy Story is the only game that I had for the system.
@sonicdoesfrontflips
@sonicdoesfrontflips 5 жыл бұрын
So glad they changed him. Slinky always was my favorite
@Stratelier
@Stratelier 5 жыл бұрын
There's truth to the saying "fail faster" (i.e. "fail early"): The sooner you identify a problem the better, because you haven't invested as much work into a vision that will ultimately fail, and the faster you can develop a superior version. PS - randomly stumbled across this video today and the presentation/format strikes me as *immediately* familiar.... what other work have they done?
@WarHelmetCombine
@WarHelmetCombine Жыл бұрын
It would actually be quite interesting seeing this version of the movie
@peoplesdreamsneverend2709
@peoplesdreamsneverend2709 5 жыл бұрын
How about the terrible version of buzz in toy story 4?
@princessthyemis
@princessthyemis 5 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD YES!!!! THANK YOU!!!! You're the only person I've encountered who thinks that!!!! Yes! They TOTALLY dumbed him down in 4; it was awful, and their parting wasn't as sad as it could have been!!!
@funleader9397
@funleader9397 5 жыл бұрын
@@princessthyemis yuppers buzz in toy story 4 was like a robot
@macmurfy2jka
@macmurfy2jka 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, since when was buzz incapable of critical thinking and not fully in control of his life? In TS1(Toy story 1) maybe, but that was primarily because he was to naive to know better. That is pretty well corrected by the end of the film. Even in TS2 where Buzz is essentially on his own, he takes control of the group and leads effectively and effortlessly. He ends up working off a good majority of his ignorance of the real world by the end of that film. He also saves Woody from Stinky Pete with a brilliant display of resourcefulness when he stunned Pete with the cameras. In TS3 ,where he is now fully lucid, he was able to singlehandedly break into Lotso’s archives. He didn’t even seem to break a sweat doing so. If the real Buzz had been involved in the heist to steal Sporky back, it probably would have gone of way better. Even if he was misguidedly following his “inner voice” I doubt he would have thrown caution to the wind like he did. Either way, Buzz’s following his “inner voice” was totally out of character, anyway. He knew, very well, the fact that he was a toy, lest we forget the manic depressive episode in the first film. I doubt he would have put any credibility into the random pre recorded catch phrases that he knew were such. Honestly that was the worst part of the film overall. They could have left that stupid gag out and the whole film really wouldn’t have suffered. It’s not like there was a pay off for the stupid gag anyway. If Buzz learned to lighten up (not really needed anyway) but also to trust his gut more to be a more effective leader whilst simultaneously realizing the stupidity of listening to the recordings, there may have been something there. It almost seams thats what the writers wanted but some pivotal scenes got left out in editing. The rest of the characters in the film even realized that Buzz was acting strange. IDK. All I know is that it sucked.
@KamenSentaiMetalHero
@KamenSentaiMetalHero 5 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, Toy Story 4 shouldn't been made, because Toy Story 3 ended the series so well that there's no point in another film. Where can they go without doing the same thing.
@thunderbird1921
@thunderbird1921 5 жыл бұрын
Toy Story 4 did MUCH MORE than dumb down Buzz. Woody is totally emasculated and Jessie is weakened too. She's a pushover to Bo. Anyone who has seen TS2, TS3 and ESPECIALLY Toy Story of Terror knows she would NOT have let Bo haul him off. She loves him like he's her big brother.
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