The Tiny Apple "Phone"

[@Dave2D]

I think the IDEA of this device is really cool but it's also very expensive/difficult to execute well. Would gears be more precise instead of pulleys?

[@N0Xa880iUL]

@@Dave2D At this point we're designing their product for them XD

[@NKCubed]

The idea is cool because they didn't come up with it, it's 90% a rip from a concept done by Joyce Kang and the one addition they added doesn't even work well

[@libertysound8575]

Bro just use Apple watch as intended. Stop trying to outdo Apple its not possible

[@SpeedLockedNZ]

no charging, no button, nothing i coiuldn't make myself outta Lego...

[@eliasjewelrydesign]

@@libertysound8575 Apple did outdo IBM :)

[@MarkH]

I remember people turning the 6th gen iPod Nano into a watch, and now there's people turning the Apple Watch into an iPod. Full circle, I love it lmao

[@markm0000]

Full scroll wheel lol

[@kemal_ozturk]

Yep, I used to do that. It felt so good, having this touch watch that no-one had at the time

[@ayoubbelmahdi6032]

THANK YOU! I was looking for this

[@ddnava96]

I always thought the iPod Nano Watch was an official thing. It even had a clock App that would show you a watchface for that

[@user-rq2ow5lj1b]

It’ll probably be available on temu for 4.99 in a week.

[@dronzer007]

I agree, if not 5 then at least 10 for sure.

[@anekinoo7]

Just from all the defects mention and dave putting in a piece of paper. Definitely temu junk.

[@AndreVictorGoncalves]

$5 If it were for Android $10 If it were for Apple

[@randomgamingin144p]

its a literal case of course it will be

[@saodbing]

very true.

[@visheshpandita2787]

3:42 "But how did they solve the click? Let me tell you. It turns out that they didn't!" 😂savage

[@jamesmichaelcabrera9613]

Useless product

[@speedstor]

This video is basically Dave2D asking for anyone to make a good version of this product to let him buy it.

[@MegaDRKSTR]

The company should have used an android watch instead and made all the functions usable electronically

[@poeticsilence047]

​@MegaDRKSTR Yeah, samsung watch would have been good. It has buttons.

[@jc2685]

I had to check the date if it was an April Fools joke 😮

[@olirc]

It's a trick or treat, without the treat.

[@micahathey8065]

Bruh it’s November, where you been? lol

[@envynoir]

@@micahathey8065Might have been a late april fools joke

[@TonyStark-wr7ob]

Wish it was April. so sick of 2024. 😂

[@dannymartial7997]

This is something that should've remained a 3D printed project, not a real product. For $80, you can get an actual iPod

[@Macrike]

An actual iPod can’t make phone calls.

[@TheMonkeydood]

I thought ipod was discontinued?

[@shawnsoap]

@@TheMonkeydood eBay

[@CosmicCowboy]

I’m waiting for someone to drop the files at some point

[@zivzulander]

​@@shawnsoapif I'm going to ebay, I'm getting a Zune instead 🧐

[@mullerthomas8673]

A 3$ piece of plastic sold with 79$ :) that's good business.

[@anekinoo7]

Temu junk. 😂

[@ethanenright1070]

That's apple for you

[@JannesDragon]

Because it's for apple people. You can basically make the price anything in a 150+- price range just randomly and they will buy it

[@jfftck]

This is marketed to Apple users, so they are already trained to pay more for something that is only a fraction to make.

[@vsevoloda.2615]

I thought it has battery that charges apple watch tbh.

[@dingmingzou9866]

I'm dead when I saw the pully assembly 3:04 LMAOOOO

[@dronzer007]

At this point I was sure that there would be a lot of cheap alternatives for this. Some might even be even cooler looking.

[@1khunsa]

Lmao. I saw that and I was like ain't no way this should cost more than $20

[@frozencold199]

@@dronzer007 Yeah, getting this into a nice aluminum case and it might be worth $40, right now its worth $5

[@IDiggPattyMayonnaise]

But... "It's a neat mechanism" -Dave2d, 2024

[@OhQueBacan]

@@1khunsa hopefully someone makes a 3d print option

[@SimonBauer7]

3:07 yeah, the reason why scrolling is inconsistent is the belt slipping. a proper system would have an adapter that fits over the crown, or a gear of sorts that engages the crown. its badly engineered.

[@thetinyPod]

For clarification, the unit sent to Dave (as we told him) is a test unit for the 45mm watch, not SE, hence the wheel issue - We sent it to Dave for a first look and didn’t know he’d publish early, so we couldn’t clarify. (Still a Dave2D fan)

[@N0Xa880iUL]

Will there be a selector button or not? I can't see how there can be.

[@marc_frank]

@@N0Xa880iUL a lever chain could do it

[@Dave2D]

All three of my 45mm watches fit into the slot but were too tight on the wheel mechanism and didn't allow the wheel too turn. The SE was a loose fit (hence the paper to make it fit better) but at least allowed the movement of the wheel.

[@johnsimatupang4482]

Ooffff....

[@N0Xa880iUL]

@@Dave2D The oofs continue.

[@peterhuijsen]

so you're paying eighty bucks for a piece of plastic and a pully?? that's crazy brother.

[@victoriusnik]

I don't know Dave... intuitively, it was clear from the very first moment that there cannot be any selector button. I mean, what should it select anyway? the element you're looking at? the whole screen is a selector area 😄

[@ketan6182]

you make a valid point lol

[@Energine1]

Clearly, you've never used the early iPods.

[@victoriusnik]

@@Energine1 I sure did! But I also have and use an Apple Watch, which this thing is made for.

[@jaketyler2702]

So then there's absolutely no point for a scroll wheel 🤷 And there's actually no point for this case at all, when a watch goes on your fkn wrist 😂

[@samtherat6]

Was looking for this. It’s not designed to be used by clicking the crown or something.

[@AWriterWandering]

The click wheel is such a genius piece of engineering. Never understood why they didn’t incorporate something similar into the Apple TV remote.

[@NickSoong]

4:21 the first generation iPod nano has a plastic front place, so the one you’re holding is the second generation that has the aluminum shell akin to the iPod mini.

[@polyshrub]

this looks like something you could 3d print

[@chepulis]

Good luck 3D printing a rotating wheel that feels good.

[@SimonBauer7]

Resin. or fdm and then sanding it smooth​@@chepulis

[@polyshrub]

@chepulis I do agree that getting a functional and good feeling print would take some time, but like @SimonBauer7 said some post processing could get it to a state similar to the product in the video

[@brianhecimovich4488]

@@chepulis ~balls~ ~and a bearing~

[@DrPepperone]

So basically e-waste

[@TheMonkeydood]

Exactly

[@Jantcha]

Not e-waste because there's no electronics. So just regular old trash.

[@curcapsicum]

Not even e-waste, just regular plastic waste.

[@MithunOnTheNet]

$80 plastic waste

[@dp8jl]

***Plastic waste

[@Slimothy]

This is a gag gift worth maybe $10.99 max

[@N0Xa880iUL]

@@Slimothy That's too much. Should cover R&D costs as well 😂

[@RobotPorter]

That tracks. All Apple products have at least a 5X markup.

[@AndreVictorGoncalves]

​@@N0Xa880iULR&D for this product probably cost $10 worth of Starbucks and an afternoon browsing section. Nothing advanced there

[@AndreVictorGoncalves]

R&D for this product probably cost $10 worth of Starbucks and an afternoon browsing section. Nothing advanced there

[@Slimothy]

1:10 *Did Diddy package them? Is that why?*

[@carlogigante5239]

And that piece of shit from temu costs $80?

[@Lord_Mecca]

Lmfao 🤣 You beat me to it

[@nathico1738]

😂

[@Long_Nguyen4215]

That’s just a case for an Apple Watch…

[@Macrike]

Yes, exactly like he said within the first 10 seconds of the video. Thank you Captain Obvious. But if you watch further than just the first 10 seconds, you’ll find out it’s a lot more than “just a case”.

[@olirc]

@Long_Nguyen4215 How did you manage to work this out?

[@ahuachapan2]

for 79$

[@wasir3703]

Harvard called, they offering you a merit scholarship.

[@tof399]

Just a shitty useless piece of plastic sold to brainless people.

[@dan_rad]

Add in external battery (USB-C to charge), replace the scroll wheel with a bluetooth keyboard with a little roller that electronically controls the crown and you might have a winner.

[@glazed95]

That’s a 2nd* gen Nano - First gen had the mirror back and glossy front

[@Dave2D]

oh yes! you're totally right forgot about that 1st gen king

[@jttnc]

I designed something similar for my Apple Watch Ultra, but instead of the scroll wheel, there’s a slot for my AirPods Pro case. I feel that it’s a much better design. The scroll wheel is cool for nostalgia I suppose, but I get more use from having a spot for the AirPods, and it can still be used one handed. I love using it when I go out on a hike or climbing and don’t feel like bringing my phone with me

[@trashtonmusic]

i was thinking of doing the same thing, are your files posted somewhere?

[@jttnc]

@ not currently, but if I can dig them up I’ll post them online somewhere and let you know

[@ytsucks]

>Invent keyboard phone >progress to touchscreen >keyboard *nOsTaLGiA*

[@okojijoko]

The Clicks case for iPhones are pretty neat. Kinds of bring back the nostalgia of using a blackberry with some shortcuts tuned for iOS. I definitely have a softspot for my Q10 and wish it was something viable in today's world (uses ARM, not ARM64, so very limited selection of apps).

[@zivzulander]

The funny thing about tactility is that moving to virtual interfaces (even with some limited haptics) isn't always a straightforward advancement. There's a reason that most keyboard and mice enthusiasts have to go back decades in Apple's history to find a halfway decent peripheral from them, even though they are a behemoth in consumer electronics now (their Magic trackpads are respectable, though, but still not comparable to using a mouse).

[@blacktrout]

This is kinda cool for digital minimalist. You can do everything you need to and get notifications for all of it but using it is not the best. Theres not apps that suck you in.

[@Ironhide1125]

This is trying to compete the Humane AI pin and Rabbit R1 as the worst tech product of the year

[@pirateluffy01]

There is no tech in it though

[@davidsentanu7836]

​@@pirateluffy01It's tech, just low tech

[@AndreVictorGoncalves]

​@@davidsentanu7836 Dude, a pulley is not tech. It is an ancient method of force distribution.

[@Rollexm]

Not the same. This is a fun lil project. I’m also a bit disappointed Dave didn’t use a watch that fit. How can you review something with the wrong fit? Kinda pointless video, really.

[@AndreVictorGoncalves]

@@Rollexm A pointless video to a pointless product

[@ashtonnn03]

i kind of like this idea in theory. for my use case, my job doesn’t allow us to actually wear the watches so disguising it as a mini ipod is the perfect idea for me in THEORY😂 ironically i was thinking of using my apple watch as like a phone “replacement” and this gave me some hope. i might try the lite version and then again i might not.

[@minibus1351]

what if they put a strap on it and put it on the wrist and call it a watch?! 🤯

[@GGori_99]

WE AAAAALLL just desperately in need for a SMAAALLLLL fvckin phone.. ofcourse to detox our smartphone..

[@User57655]

I don't know what you expected hahaha, how would it have clicked? The problem with the product is once you consider removing the scrollwheel (because it sucks) then you realise it's just a plastic shell for an Apple Watch, which has zero value.

[@ZachAgape]

I appreciate you giving an honest critique while also not knocking them down/appreciating their effort!💚👍

[@marcusellby]

There's no way around that select "button" unless Apple implement Bluetooth functionality or another way to select

[@MrHaydnSir]

that's mad - remember seeing some renders of this concept way back when around the first gen apple watch, but out of silicon; cool to see someone sorta made it a reality

[@N0Xa880iUL]

More than the product idea itself, it's the price they want to sell it at, which shows their hubris. Which explains the overwhelming negative reception in the comments, instead of simply talking about the thing as it is.

[@mackit]

Thanks for this review, I’ve been waiting to see how this thing actually worked because the concept, while cool, sounded implausible to actually pull off. Glad I didn’t purchase!

[@srturja6874]

"but how did they solve the click?" let me tell you, **THEY DIDN'T** -Dave, 2024

[@olzwolz5353]

Waste of plastic.

[@darenalmonte1631]

charging 80 + tax on that is crazy

[@YashJoshi_x3]

I’m disappointed that it even made it to the video

[@shaun1900]

Worse things to be disappointed about.

[@YashJoshi_x3]

@ cry about it

[@shaun1900]

@@YashJoshi_x3 idiot

[@N0Xa880iUL]

Apparently these were sent to him. So he made the video out of courtesy. Not worth it tho. Very disappointed. It's not a product. It's a mechanism which I might've daydreamed about.

[@elmalloc]

man I wish I had your life to be disappointed at that.

[@callmetony1319]

An old Unbox Therapy episode shows an iPhone accessory which adds an Android-style back button to the bottom bezel; when tapped some current is sent to the top-left area of the screen where the back button is usually located in iOS apps. I don't see why they couldn't do something here; tapping or pressing in the button sends some current to, say, the middle of the screen to make the selection

[@Kysen10]

Straight into landfill, at the very least they could have improved the AW battery life with an external booster.

Saw an ad for this earlier today and I thought it looked pretty cool. I think it could be a fun use for my current Apple Watch when I upgrade. Hopefully they make a version 2 with a functional button.

[@broderick7932]

this should be no more than $12 static version should be $7 but of course those are prices at scale & there will never be enough interest

[@Tekn0-l1c]

Huh?? Static version should be 0.99

[@broderick7932]

@ won’t argue with that lol

[@Pramit1156]

To make this product work as we expect it to , Apple watch have to be able to have a dedicated mode which it will shift to when connected to a tiny pod and the whole working will have to be via wireless communication , i.e. via bluetooth / wi-fi / internet, which will actually increase the price to at least $279 from $79 in apple sense

[@Cleb_3D]

Honestly, I like using my apple watch without a case or bands or anything. It feels like a spy gadget or something because it's so small that you don't even use your palm to hold it, just your fingers.

[@tristanhawkins8699]

The thought of this terrifies me. I’d lose it within minutes. Find it. Lose it. Find it. Leave it in a pocket and end up sticking it in the washing machine

[@oatbear8243]

If Apple released a device that just did all the streaming clients and podcasts, and looks like an iPod nano, I’d buy it instantly.

[@Flushmaster0312]

4:40 How did you expect this to work? There is no other function on the Apple Watch other than pressing it with your finger. Some magical energy that emanates from the device and presses it for you?

[@HandledToaster2]

Yes

[@ahmedbendz1875]

Like maybe something we call Bluetooth

[@simonedeiana2696]

Are you a shill? The product's experience is deeply flawed

[@KeeseToast]

This just makes me wish that Apple still made modern iPods for enthusiasts, kinda like the walkman still exists. Kinda sad they abandoned one of their most recognizable products. A new iPod with USB-C, support for streaming apps and seamless airpod integration would be awesome

[@maxmeier532]

You mean like an Ipod classic? In terms of Ipod touch, you can just get a used Ipod or if that's too old for your liking or you dont want to buy used, get an Iphone 13 mini. Not optimal, but good enough.

[@jesusreyez9480]

You broke my heart I’m just waiting mine 😂

[@Dave2D]

sorry brother. I also had high hopes.

[@Corazon_KAIZOKU]

This tech solves the whole purpose of a watch. BRILLIANT !

[@InternetWesley]

I like the idea a lot. Wish it were a little better produced.

[@ShashankKirtania]

I remember watching a bunch of concept photos on this back in 2019 I think, it's so amazing that someone actually made it

[@Krusnik.]

I wouldnt get this for 8 dollars. Its worth 80 cents

[@N0Xa880iUL]

Nah then you're not the intended customer anyway. It's supposed to bank on the nostalgia factory. $8 should be the max they should charge. Otherwise they'll be undercut easily.

[@AndreVictorGoncalves]

​@@N0Xa880iULit costs probably $0.50 to make tho.

[@baconberries8097]

I think a bluetooth keyboard and a way to charge the watch through usbc wouldve made this genuinely useful to someone who wants to disconnect like i do.

[@justthen]

I can't imagine somebody really want this crappy accessory for $80.....

[@SagarDas-fs6og]

The innovation that apple lacks these days

[@TheRealMarkS]

Now all they need to do is release a wrist strap for it, and the universe will implode in a mega-burst of irony.

[@etherealfolkboy]

Honestly Apple should make this as an actual accessory and have the click button functionality. This is such a cool idea man

[@ridakesserwan8712]

3:13 ok this proves that this is half assed engineering. They could've attached the rubber to a gear that has the exact same ridges as the digital crown instead of the rubber scrolling it directly, that's what's causing the scrolling inconsistency. and for the scroll wheel, use a gear that also has the same number of ridges but on a larger diameter and spaced out evenly, that way the scroll wheel precisely coverts rotational energy and feels perfectly tactile this is a fun 3D printing project, not at 80$ product.

[@JibyJab]

thank you Dave, I almost ordered this thing. Appreciate the honest review

[@sshum00]

3d printed version would be a better community product tbh

[@Nuke_Skywalker]

yeah but we live in capitalism so, "innovation"

[@creativecatalyst1]

Nice concept. IMHO if you made this as a pocket watch/charger/speaker with a carabiner clip this would be perfect for a camping trip. I could strap to my backpack for a hike or chill at the beach and lose the suntan lines while on vacation.

[@eliashermansson]

5:47 This is why it usually has a watch band and, you know, goes around your wrist.

[@marcushosmer1856]

Honestly thank you, I was seriously looking at one of these because I do not want to go to a bigger phone but I will buy the less expensive one and an SE and save myself the money.

[@DaraulHarris]

2:23 I believe the word you're looking for is "tolerances"

[@TorontoTheWolf]

🤓

[@SilverHusky]

We had people turning their iPod nano into a watch, now we have people turning their Apple watch into a iPod

[@mysticmarble94]

Concept of an Implementation 🤭

[@sherwinh1661]

its selling on temu now at 14 bucks

[@clebbington]

I’m hoping some 3D printing/modding youtuber sees this and makes their own, better version. If you were destructive with the apple watch, you could do so much more - larger battery, wired charging, a clickable wheel

[@zivzulander]

It would get quite hacky. Other devices in the Android or open ecosystems would easier to do this with. It's too bad the Pinetime is a bit lacking in hardware specs, but that would be a good candidate - might be some other devices, as well, that would be good fit.

[@nidhin916]

Imagine the same device with an additional battery augmenting the watch battery and capacitive scroll wheel, this could have been an awesome product

[@sggsquadpresents]

So it sucks

[@galen__]

I can see a design like this working via Accessibility triggers for motion control and selection on the watch, bluetooth controls in the case. Surely a tiny RP2040 or RP2350 based board would be overkill for sensor and bluetooth roles, but quick to prototype with.

[@relicreturns]

Knocks on the company for 6mins and 5 secs 'I don't wanna knock on the company'

[@seshpenguin]

Honestly this is one time where I would've liked to see it priced a bit higher, but actually have a small motor+servo to manipulate the crown with a capacitive scroll wheel (plus they can manipulate the acceleration of the motor for better scroll feel etc etc)

[@worstusername22]

Omg, is this for real... i mean the potential is there

[@GoldenGo_OSe]

Really cool product, but the battery time on the Apple Watch is a problem.

[@TimidSylveon]

I don't understand that, if they put so much effort into the mechanism for the crown, why not hijack Apple's "pinch to select" they have in accessibility and create a mechanism for the centre button that'll emulate it? Apple can already tell if someone pinches their fingers with the device and handles it through software already, so all someone would have to do is find a way to trick that mechanism to activate whenever the centre button is clicked.

[@MyronZhao]

problem is, pinch to select doesn't exist on most apple watch series

[@Apr19th]

I think that only works when it’s against your skin/wrist right? Needs the sensors on the back to detect that and in this case that wouldn’t be happening

[@N0Xa880iUL]

Good idea 💡

[@xkedude]

good concept, thanks for testing!

[@emilnumfor4417]

4:57 Teemu takes a stray bullet 😂

[@nate5527]

Interesting concept, thanks for sharing! 4:17, that's an iPod Nano 2nd generation. :)

[@AdoreHorror]

Needs a headphone jack, its not an iPod without one

[@Elbown]

It would be nice if this could be Bluetooth connected. I wonder if Apple allows a Bluetooth connected device to an Apple Watch to control it, I feel like there’s something like that in the AssistiveTouch, switch control settings

[@kratafila]

What should that click select? There is no such thing in the Apple Watch ui that suggests you selected something, you can only scroll to see a list of apps. You are demanding something that would need a fundamental UI/UX change within the Apple Watch.

[@HoldenPage]

I think this is very cool!

[@MultiWalrus1]

Dave why are you reviewing this junk 🤣

[@SpeckledSphinx4]

So others don’t waste their money…

[@MultiWalrus1]

@ I personally did not need to see a review to avoid that mistake 😝

[@KalpeshPatel78]

Superb. They created a problem for a solution.

[@JoshuaPack]

That’s crazy 😆

[@moshebaum7612]

I never thought this would actually be made. I was wrong. Looks rad. Scroll wheel likes nice

[@desmond-hawkins]

What's the point of this video? "I bought this piece of plastic for $80 so I _have_ to still post this video otherwise it's just a wasted expense". Why would anyone listen to someone talking about a niche product that's clearly low-quality and useless? It's not like anyone in Dave's audience was eagerly waiting for this video to finally make a purchase decision on this hot item.

[@pathikdesai5853]

Good to see mechanical product trying to comeback!!

[@Stan_sprinkle]

Dang, was really hoping this was going to be awesome

[@Dave2D]

same lol

[@alepolait8951]

I don't mind the simple mechanism. I actually like that's mechanical and doesn't try to interfere or work with the software (not that it will be easy or viable) But I can't excuse the cheap casing. They could've used better materials at that pricepoint, even if it's a minimalistic design, aluminum in the casing, or rubber grips. They could've also had a better seal so the oil from the gears doesn't leak. The metal back of the iPods were the standout, because you could engrave them, I would've expected something like that.

[@conin.v]

The way they're trying to mislead people into thinking this is a "legit" Apple product is already a bad omen.

[@internetusername9593]

Honestly if a more functional version of this comes out I am so copping.

[@thedclover1422]

1 minute ago is crazy

[@Mangolite]

This Apple Watch case has a pulley system that allows you to turn the dial only. I can envision this as the $30 version, while the $80 version should have wireless integration, such as Bluetooth or NFC functionality, to enable the scroll wheel and button clicking functions.

[@whatsadog2445]

1:30 Are you kidding? You can tell immediately even from the box, it looks like 40¢ junk made in China. The designers did not do a good job

[@ANGAHMONTOYA]

Yeah looks too Cheap

[@JarosawTabor]

It's genius! They invented the problem and solved it. Impressive!

[@dhang_somnath]

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