The Tobii Eye Tracker 5 Might Be Better Than VR For The Casual Gamer | Star Citizen Immersion

[@trenwilson6613]

I would like to add that if you are using a laptop you can still use the Tobii eye tracker, you will have to take the eye tracker off to close your computer but the magnetic mount is able to stay on and doesn't interfere with closing your laptop.

[@NegativeProcess]

I got on my summer car and was quite surprised that it also works on there. Honestly tobi is amazing

[@malismo]

Tobii 5 works great, love mine. Use it mostly for head tracking. Long sessions not so much a problem as with VR

[@zaeith2669]

Now I'm getting a Tobi Eye Tracker. This was all the info I needed.

[@johnzoidberg1160]

Check out Grass Monkey Simulations too.. They have better frame rates for their head tracking and it's a small company.

[@M4VERICK69]

Appreciate the insight on this. I’ve been ‘eyeing’ one up for some time, but had queries about it that you just answered. Will use the code for sure 😊

[@trevordupp8734]

Snagged an eyetracker during black friday, can't wait to try it out

[@Maniacal_Enigma]

It's also a good middle ground when your computer or games don't run well enough to play proper vr. Because it isn't strapped to your face having less than perfect frames isn't deadly 👍

[@SpaceTomato]

It really is. Not as heavy on your PC to run is a very obvious benefit!

[@stratvids]

I have it paired with a 49" Samsung G9 OLED. Its better than VR for me as I can't stand having something strapped to my face and this gives 95% of the immersion

[@antoniovinciguerra8982]

I‘m trying to mount it on my 42" OLED, how did you manage to get it working..? I’m really curious, for me it‘s always a distance issue

[@stratvids]

@@antoniovinciguerra8982 I bought a articulating camera arm and epoxied the metal mounting strip to it and then attached it to my monitor stand with the clamp

[@TruthIsKey369]

I to have a 49" Samsung G9, is it that good for that? I would imagine it being a good experience

[@Th3_Native]

You gotbthe eye tracking to work? I use 55" old LG and only head tracking I can get working. I couldn't get eye tracking to work accurately.

[@stratvids]

@@Th3_Native seems to work just as well as on my old 27"

[@randydurnil1824]

Would love to see the the face creation tool with Tobi. Looked for information online but couldn't find anything about the face creation tool. I think with the 20% off i'm finally going to pull the trigger on purchasing a Tobi ET5. One question: Does TET5 work for mouth tracking when you talk?

[@RoyTT]

Thinkin about getting a Tobii when you already own a VR headset might seem like a downgrade to immersion, that was atleast my thought until i tried it. Biggest + is that you dont have to strap anything to your head, you get tons of immersion from the Tobii with the correct settings. If i could chose (i mean, i can) between VR or Tobii for games like Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, Flight Sim, etc. I will go Tobii every time!

[@KyleBlagg]

I’ll get it when they add official Linux support

[@johnzoidberg1160]

You should check out Grass Monkey Simulations solution. Also, how is gaming on Linux? Do you use a certain distro? Thinking about making the switch to Linux finally.

[@Spenceanator]

I love the tobii eye tracker but nothing will compare to the feeling of motion controls as I use a multi tool, interact with my ship, or reload my weapon. That’s the experience I’m looking forward to

[@turbo111777]

finally got one and just for SC alone it is crazy. I wish VR was popular but we definitely better VR tech first. This on my new monitor is so incredible.

[@TruthIsKey369]

Most important part is having a bigscreen, and AR glasses like Xreal and Viture are making this possible to have huge virtual screens and lock them in place. A lot cheaper than bigscreens, and easy on the go too for movie watching and ofc work space wherewver you go.

[@embi04]

unfortunatelly doesn't work in Linux :(

[@Sludgebuster]

For adhesives- just get some of those 3M Command Strips. They work great!

[@jacobjericho1]

So I've had one for a few years now , one of the things I love most about it is windows showing the log on screen for a split second while as it's already captured my face to log in , same with making payments on websites. In games like star citizen it offers a range of new immersion and features like missile lock on whoever I'm looking at , even funny things like rotating my head like a dog and people saying ,how TF you do that XD , In all honesty I don't *use* it much but that's because I don't have to actively have to do anything , I forget it there at times , it's a sort of invisible technology that just works and its got to the point where I forget I even have it until the rare times it does something I don't want. One of the best game uses out of Star citizen is the feature some games have where if you ads it automatically snaps you to what you was looking at , 1 tiny downside .. if you use a vr headset like the oculus with inside out tracking .. make sure you disable tobii as the IR will look like strobe lights to your vr headset and tracking won't work , super simple toggle in the taskbar

[@Fizzlefuse]

I still very much would like a Tobii Eyetracker 5 to use with Star Citizen but right now, especially with CIG missing delays _again_ ... I'm putting it on hold. Also, even with their frequent discounts, it's still pretty expensive and I really need Star Citizen to be further along before I make any more significant purchases.

[@beefowner]

I know right...was really close to buying joysticks for that game but i am glad i didnt. The game looks good and all but to be worthy for buying hardware just for that game, it has to improve a lot more.

[@johnzoidberg1160]

Check out Grass Monkey Simulations. Better frame rate, less expensive, mom and pop owed. Mine changed how I play Star citizen.

[@billpii6314]

@@beefowner No problem. Wait another ten years, and it might be there.

[@Tentacl]

I had a tobii eyetracker in my Alienware laptop many years ago. I kinda liked it, but it didn't work as well because of the smaller screen. I'd buy one for my current setup if the prices weren't so absurd here in Brazil.

[@Liefx]

Love my tobii 4, but it stopped working properly in SC :(

[@stevejamieson1613]

I bought one second hand a few weeks ago from a guy who had spent 50k on SC and was now bailing out of the game. I haven’t changed any settings yet so this video is a plus for me as my head range of motion seems to be a bit too twitchy. Such a great piece of kit though. Makes landings at stations way less tricky in my Vulture or C2 etc

[@thePrisoner1000]

Excellent overview, and I agree if you figure in the cost of the VR gear, needing a better PC, the Tobii is not cheap but a better value than VR. VR for me will need to be at a stage where it's a not to heavy ski goggle size device and more games for it.

[@kookiespace]

Wish it supported Linux :(

[@mikezr1000]

What about "Beam Eye Tracker" with a webcam? Even with the 20% off the Tobii seems a bit pricy, it would be nice to see a side-by-side comparison of the two.

[@c-shepard]

Prices are ridiculous, purchased a Leap Motion years ago for a fraction of what their asking. 35 Euros for a tripod mount? Hell, you can 3D print one in 5 minutes. Unless prices come down, not interested.

[@518UN4]

My main problem with the Tobii is, that it doesnt stick to the underside of my screen and keeps falling down.

[@socomunist4191]

I used super glue.

[@malismo]

The do have a stand for it as well, otherwise one should be available on Etsy

[@stratvids]

I bought a articulating camera arm and epoxied the metal mounting strip to it and then attached it to my monitor stand with the clamp . there was no way to stick it to my curved monitor

[@CMDR-Ashtar]

Careful if you play in like a sim rig setup. I play on a 75" gaming tv, and i sit further back then most. Tried really hard to get it to work properly and went back to track ir. Love it on my more conventional pc setup tho.

[@positronikiss]

will this work great for fps games like stalker 2?

[@vonklinkenhoffn1]

If you're not a VR user, then this probably can seem like it's better than VR, however for a VR gamer there's no way this is better than VR. As an avid VR user myself, It's not even comparable imo.

[@shamelessplace11]

@@vonklinkenhoffn1 my man he said it was almost better than VR all right he wasn’t saying that it was. I think you jumped up on your horse a little bit too quick all right is a complete different animal. We all know it some people like it. Some people hate it with Toby. It just follows your eyes and does crap. That’s what it does and it works especially in games all right so relax give your horse a carrot put him in the stall relax

[@vonklinkenhoffn1]

@@shamelessplace11" Jumped on my horse a little quick"? "Relax"? What are you talking about? I'm simply stating my opinion on the matter based on my own experience, that's it. Am I not allowed to comment too? You sound like I've started a crusade, yelling and screaming with my comment. I simply voiced my own opinion, and that I based it on my personal experience. If anyone's been climbing horses around here, it sounds to me it must be you. Seem a little buthurt over there, have you thought about relaxing a little yourself? As I said in my comment, "As an avid VR user myself, it's not even comparable imo." I said that because it really isn't comparable, it's not the same. Sounds to me we pretty much agree then, it is indeed a "completely different animal", as you said yourself. There really isn't much reason for you to get all riled up here over this.

[@shamelessplace11]

@@vonklinkenhoffn1 I would say from this rant that you have here that my original statement stands true. You just jumped very quick to the OP about how VR is the king whatever that’s why I said what I said if you don’t get that if you don’t understand that that’s cool. Like you said this is open for you didn’t say whatever the hell you want. That’s cool, have a great one. Stay safe.

[@vonklinkenhoffn1]

​@@shamelessplace11 What? Rant? was that a rant to you? LOL Ok. Look, The OP did in fact state that Tobii Eye Tracker might be better than VR, which is clearly a pretty far out comparison if you know anything about VR at all, as it is a vastly different technology. Now, I'm perfectly in my right to point that out, and it's not an outragous thing to comment on. Apparently your ego felt threatened somehow, I have no idea why, I haven't even said anything negative about your precious Tobii. I also know perfectly well what a Tobii Eye Tracker is too, no need for the lecture. If you think I "jumped on my horse to quick" or whatever, that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. In my book however, you're being really over sensitive, and that's my opinion. Which I'm also entitled to. Enjoy the verse, good luck in your future endevours.

[@shamelessplace11]

@@vonklinkenhoffn1 ok guy. You win. Have a good one Be safe

[@lestrike2707]

the reason I haven't bought a tobii 5 is that they don't tell what comes in the box. Somewhere I read that one has to buy the Monitor mount seperately, their website isn't clear if that's the case. Your review suggests it's included. So can someons concretely tell ne what the eyetracker comes with?

[@ondra.k610]

Is's on the webpage, the mount is included

[@lestrike2707]

@@ondra.k610 thx!

[@rubentaiartinger2640]

Its latency annoyed me so i switched to track ir ( from 33 MHz to 120 MHz)

[@socomunist4191]

For casual players, YES its worth it. But if you have more tech knowledge and love gaming. Then theres no substitute for VR. As soon as SC introduces VR I'll be switching to my meta 3 & selling my tobii. I used my VR for sim racing, DCS and war thunder.

[@WebbTrades]

@@socomunist4191 star citizen with the PiMax Crystal Light would be CRAZY

[@jakeramp1]

Lag on a high end system is already unbearable. That's never going to happen. Ever. Maybe if Chris sold that yacht, and put it back into development.

[@WebbTrades]

@@jakeramp1 I don’t get much lag on my 4080, i7 system other than some server lag. Once they get server lag fixed and what they promised for 4.0 update, it’ll be a really fun game. Dog fighting already gets my adrenaline pumping

[@stratvids]

gotta disagree. Tobii with a large curved monitor give nearly the same experience and you can still see your controls and peripherals like game glass and additional monitors. And you don't have a device strapped to your face

[@whoisamp620]

im surprised no bodys created a virtual desktop that gives you more screen real estate than you actually have. imagine a "curved monitor" inside your flat rectangle monitor

[@johnzoidberg1160]

Check out Grass Monkey Simulations. Like a TrackIR head tracking solution but higher frame rate, larger tracking space, and it's made by a small business (and cheaper).

[@lga9046]

If you're a poor person hobbling together tech to play this game, there's a free option for you with AITrack & OpenTrack used in tandem.

[@Karackal]

OpenTrack was a godsend since I already owned a webcam thanks to the Covid lockdowns.

[@lga9046]

@@Karackal yep, I'm not a person of privilege and this game can get quite expensive. I love the results, truly a game changer.

[@mane4582]

This has to have been a sponsored video. There’s no way u believe it better. A good substitute for those who get sick or don’t like the hmd on their face maybe but BETTER in general no way

[@Chooie6]

In terms of Star citizen I find it pretty lack luster compared to track IR 5 it only works well in ideal conditions and even then has some limitations. Sure track IR requires something on your head and the stock clips aren't that good in that regard but you can get custom made battery powered clips to remove the wires and have a firmer track. Customization also way better. The eye tracking isn't super useful especially if you aren't running with optimal settings because the accuracy will be way off. The stick on mount doesn't last very long especially in hot weather.

[@wellsb3113]

Aqui pro Brasil fica muito caro. Infelizmente.

[@Shaeli_RP]

the fact that you can't download the tobii drivers from tobii but have to go through the awful experience that is the windows store is the only downside or reason not to have one

[@Jan_Strzelecki]

But does it work for people who wear eyeglasses?

[@trenwilson6613]

I have heard that it does, when you calibrate you Tobii wear your glasses.

[@Kotwurf]

That’s why I would never be a steamer.. this small monitors 😄 If you once played on ultra wide (plus eyetracker) you will never come back

[@KiteoHatto]

Blink to self-destruct😂

[@SoulMist17]

Never use the windows store, it will always without fail break an update one day.

[@molster1234]

Only people who even compare this to vr have not played SC in vr

[@VincePhoenix]

I hardly understand how moving your eyes making the character head moving makes sense ...

[@AngloHuscarl]

Please post your actual settings

[@orbione]

good video

[@kookiespace]

6:46 reacting to the comments

[@VincePhoenix]

Does the eyes tracker includes a camera ? I've dumbly always assumed you needed a webcam

[@BigDismal]

Cameras are included. It won't do FOIP in SC (as far as I know) but it will do facial recognition for e.g. login to Windows.

[@VincePhoenix]

@@BigDismal Thanks !

[@johnzoidberg1160]

​@@VincePhoenixcheck out Grass Monkey Simulations too before you buy. Might be a better option for you.

[@misapheonix]

Really hard to justify trying when it costs as much as a whole corsair. Also not many games support it or is useful with them

[@johnzoidberg1160]

Check out Grass Monkey Simulations, was better solution. Higher frame rate, better camera, less expensive.

[@Captain-Comedy]

Man... vr is just infinitely better. Even without hand control. The people that buy tobii will not care for the 100-200 price difference.

[@ChookyChuck]

i got the tobii and tracked much much worse than my homemade tracker made of 3 ir sensors, coat hangers and tape. Later I got a trackIR which tracked even better. I personally cant recommend the Tobii and I am surprised to see so many Content creators recommend it.

[@MatthewGleed]

There was obviously something wrong as has been stated by many many people it works amazingly even with my Samsung 49".

[@LucidStrike]

Unfortunately, Tobii offers no Linux support. Maybe there will be an open source effort to support it at some point, but until then, ah well. 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@Giliver]

Eh i dont think my vision is good enough for this

[@cosmokratoras]

hahahaha

[@versegen2]

love ya ST, but no. Tobii is not better than VR.

[@LeftJoystick]

It’s 100% better for me. I will be dead before I wear a headset to play games.

[@versegen2]

@LeftJoystick I suppose you haven't seen the Bigscreen Beyond. Thing's super tiny and is more like goggles, that's the future of VR.

[@kennyb5537]

TrackIR is better

[@johnzoidberg1160]

Grass Monkey Simulations is better than tobii and TrackIR (it's just TrackIR with a higher frame rate).

[@jakeramp1]

Don't sell something that cig has put zero work into , in the last how many years?

[@Nick-ju5vf]

I can tell you have NEVER played with a quality VR headset because of you have that statement would NEVER have even been uttered Head trackers/eye trackers are not even in the same league

[@robertc.5558]

Fucking... SKIP intro.