The Tower of Babel | The Weird Bible Podcast: Episode 4

[@jamesdaviesanswers8751]

Wish you guys made this a weekly thing

[@TheLoreLodge]

Maybe one day! As it stands, it's a pretty big miracle we're able to fit this in once a month haha

[@Drew-nx5gc]

Could we get bi-weekly?

[@theBGCsatire]

Please I beg of you!!!

[@theBGCsatire]

@@TheLoreLodge how do I donate to y'all

[@angelofbliss]

every Sunday, so i can play it for Sunday School Classroom.

[@justsomedude5727]

An argument for not referencing specific pharoahs is that their names are really inconsistent, as they would usually rename themselves and try to erase the previous leader's legacy and claim it as their own. So even from a historical context Pharoah names get confusing

[@erris5744]

I'm personally an atheist, but I've always found religious discussion like this to be fascinating.

[@TheMimiSard]

Personally as a middle-aged christian, I find it fascinating too. In-depth discussions like this and those Jordan Peterson lectures about the Bible are the sort of religious study I really desire.

[@Max_6200]

Same here :)

[@sther1349]

“There is a Thin Line between blasphemy and explaining the Bible in a way that people can understand” ain’t that the truth!

[@StrangeHammer]

Weird Bible is one of my favorite podcasts, as a Christian who’s admittedly lost his way this is so comforting

[@bobbydyne]

That Nimrod-Bugs Bunny connection just made my mind melt

[@johnnycaldwell8281]

After many hours of research i found that it was actually Daffy Duck who Called Elmer Fudd Nimrod.

[@lemonadeutube]

Hey dude just discovered your channel, this podcast scratches a BIG itch for me! Please make many more, I'm following this now. Also, your scholarship here is necessary and appreciated 👍

[@TheLoreLodge]

Thank you! We try to do these once a month! Next is on Job!

[@icecell]

Not religious but I'm really loving this series. I just love the stories, and the laughs are most entertaining. Hope this becomes more frequent!

[@TheLoreLodge]

We’re glad you’re enjoying it! We want it to be both a source of education for other Christians as well as for interested but non-religious folks :)

[@cultureddoggo5606]

same here i just love hearing the thoughts and literary works of our forefathers

[@johronok4067]

The tower, I believe, was of an immense scale and height. So high that God literally said, "look, they surely will achieve what they seek to do". For a tower of such a height you would need a very large base so the huge plain they chose was ideal and suggests that the tower was very high. This culture had knowledge and technology passed on to them by fallen angels, they were way more advanced than people think.

[@affinityxs]

it makes sense this way too because these fallen angels would know how to speed up the use of technology better than we as humans can do

[@johronok4067]

@@affinityxs I concur

[@chasewinters9982]

I know this comment was posted a while ago but I'm wildly curious. What evidence states that the builders of the tower of Babel were given advanced technology by fallen angels? Anything to do with old testament angels or fallen angels fascinates me.

[@micahgeorge326]

​@@chasewinters9982I know this question was posted a while ago... but I believe that is a reference from the book of Enoch. Not biblically Canon except in the Ethiopian bible. Though it is still referenced to in the Canon 66 book bible, which I guess lends some credibility? Definitely makes sense here.

[@chasewinters9982]

@@micahgeorge326 Hey thanks for the reply! I figured it would be from Enoch, but was curious if there was something Biblically based to support it. Enoch definitely has a lot of interesting information, I just wish it was a bit more trustworthy of a source.

[@curdled_frog9822]

Wanted to say thank you to you both! I've struggled with faith my whole life, largely due to poor education and relationsjips around it. But you've really helped explain much of what restricted my personal faith, and I feel so much more at peace recently. So, thank you! :) x

[@weast6388]

Don't know if you will read this but there is a set of podcasts called "40 minutes in the old testament" and "30 minutes in the new testament" they're Calvinist preachers but don't push it too hard. But they do a good breakdown of the Bible verse by verse. Similar to these podcasts.

[@curdled_frog9822]

@@weast6388 yo thanks man! I'm gonna check that out 😇 God bless!

[@ethandyson6070]

"I still have the maid costume, but I got fat over the winter so now I'm losing weight so I can fit in the maid costume again." Wendigoon introduced me to this channel and this is the first video of your's that I've watched. 3 minutes in and you're already one of my favorite youtube creators.

[@Mcswaggle]

I will forever have the image of a bayblading Moses splitting the red sea and destroying the Egyptian armies. Great video, as always.

[@GrimmReaperXIII]

As soon as wendigoon mentioned he has a podcast. I subbed. When he said it was about the Bible?!? I turned notifications on. I come for the great in depth content with great explanations but stay for the great conspiracy theories and weird tangents. This is my first episode of the podcast I’ve listened to yet. I’m in love.

[@pigboiii]

The fact that Nimrod is a great hunter finally makes the fighter plane model called Nimrod make sense.

[@carcinogenicoak3057]

This podcast hits a niche interest of mine that I was sorely missing. Thanks Wendigoon for the recommendation! I can’t wait to listen to more of this!

[@chairmanoffeudalism406]

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[@dirtbikeman496]

“ he never had the makings of a varsity athlete “ is a sopranos quote, it was a dig junior used to make about Tony.

[@cierrarachael9949]

I'm so glad I found this podcast. This stuff is so enlightening. You guys are great!

[@katiegwynn4495]

I love listening to people talk about this! It's a short simple story, yet everyone tends to draw different things from it.

[@peadrianlastname]

The supernatural version of the tower of babbel is the best "they built that tower almost 20 feet tall, god didnt knock it down by the way, you can only stack dried dung and sticks so high before it falls"

[@bloodyneptune]

That's literally all I can think of when they talk about how tall the tower was 😂

[@jprxkxp2517]

Just found this podcast and binged all the episodes in 2 days. Keep up the good work fellas

[@MatthiasAI]

Ty Windegoon for showing me another new awesome channel!!

[@KongMonkE]

I would love to see these guys cover gnosticism

[@eadlindobbs]

Bro, next time my family asks me to bring a plate to a dinner I'm just gonna say my contribution to the feast is an announcement of doom 😂😂

[@OGA103]

Thanks for doing this guys. I'm still making my way through the Bible and have tons to learn and you guys make these topics very accessible and interesting. Makes me want to read the Bible more.

[@sther1349]

When they are talking about Steven, I was getting all chocked up. I feel the tears coming When suddenly I hear him say: “That Gets me So Hard!” Hahahhahahaah

[@SpaceCadetDRams]

The JRE episode that referenced the mushrooms was a pretty good episode. Brian Muraresku, the guest, was referencing letters from Paul describing Christ's death as a "mushroom". He was hinting towards alerted states of consciousness in the early church.

[@UncensoredScion]

Oh god that Bugs Bunny bit is so freaking cool, that's word derivation and meaning derivation in the modern world. That's a lil scary that is, the common parlance meaning for something changing because of a lack of information and it becoming so widespread that it becomes the accepted term.

[@SxTxferlife]

Lol I played a Roman soldier throwing Daniel to the lions in 2nd grade. Every time someone brings up this story it reminds me of that time

[@katathoombs]

Thus we find play and drama to be powerful pedagogical tools

[@YerGoodBuddyKeith]

I'm a delivery driver in Chicago Illinois and during the Jesus vs Terminator sketch bit, I was delivering wrestling gear to a high school attempting to keep a straight face to a wrestling coach. I failed thank you for the memories

[@stevenpina1983]

It wasn’t the bbc program though. I believe it was a first season on MadTv

[@THEamMASSACRE]

I absolutely love this. Please keep uploading these. Live stream maybe 🤔

[@TheLoreLodge]

These are live-streamed! They’re a bit spottier than the weekly show with just the lore lodge crew, but we announce them in advance!

[@THEamMASSACRE]

@@TheLoreLodge Oh, nice! I will keep an eye out!

[@duckfilms3662]

Actually jesus in jojo is handed pretty well. He himself is not in it, but his corpse is a plot element and treated and spoken about very reverently. His name is not evan said once. The closest we get is it's being called "the saints corpse" and its ability is actually very Jesus like tbh.

[@lol858lol]

First time here! Awesome podcast I have so much fun , I will check the rest 💪🏻

[@TheLoreLodge]

Welcome aboard!

[@7753558]

I almost died at around 1:14:00 when he said that gets me so hard

[@midwesterner1161]

Wendigoon, you gotta start plugging this podcast more in your channel's videos. I only came here because one of your latest videos, you mentioned this podcast. Since then, I've watched all posted (5) videos of the podcast and am looking forward to more. Also, side note, could we get a sort of version of the bible but it's just your descriptions of the stories? Stuff like: "and then the people decided to build a tower of Babel to fight God or something and God was all like, really? Guys I just flooded the earth not long ago, come on."

[@TheLoreLodge]

It's his show as much as mine :)

[@IrishTechnicalThinker]

I absolutely loved this and just found your channel subscribed, I read the bible regularly myself and these videos are perfect for those who don't know the bible and want to know more about it's power. I like your thoughts on Ireland and it's rich history of giants because it's true us Irish wrote the book of Kells and manuscripts that were way more advanced than any other nation at the time. God bless from Ireland.

[@juliannesearles8731]

Came for the Bible study, stayed for the bugs bunny fact that I love 😂

[@leonkenedy2988]

Interesting videos about the Tower of Babel. That story have always intrigue me. You and Wendigoon have done a very fantastic job.

[@gingergoodner9363]

You guys are killing me!!!! Jeans: I didn’t die for this!!!! Out heathen!!!!

[@JohnBrownDidNothingWrong]

Love this podcast, I like falling asleep to these episodes even though I’m *looks around* *whispers* Catholic.

[@lorenabell4713]

You blew my mind with that Bugs Bunny bit. I love Bugs so this is fire information.

[@redcarp9867]

You guys have to know this. My friend had a Minecraft server with her other friends. They built the Tower of Babel, and once they reached the skybox. The world started glitching until it collapsed in on itself and the server was deleted. Even in the digital realm, God shut that shit down.

[@campbell682]

JoJo Jesus was surprisingly respectful. I liked that he only ever appeared to the physically or mentally disabled.

[@TheLoreLodge]

Well I'm glad they respected him

[@Firstthunder]

So stoked to listen to this!

[@PinchyTheKittyGirl]

If the entire Bible was like Revelations I'd be so hype.

[@zalomanakbar2350]

(basing this off 14:30) One thing to consider is that the Tower Of Babel was bigger than any other building in the land, so maybe 100-400 ft? But it's not something that we'll ever know, but it does bring an interesting conversation.

[@TheLoreLodge]

Definitely on the taller side, I do often wonder if the story has anything to do with the Hanging Gardens but those would have been much much later

[@zalomanakbar2350]

@@TheLoreLodge speaking of gardens, I think talking about what you think about what happened to Eden would be an interesting topic to talk about, I personally think it went into the heavens after the fall, but people are still looking for it, so it would be fascinating to see yours and Wendigoons thoughts on that.

[@wolfe6819]

Spring of the moment thought: what if the tower of babel was immense and the construction of it brought people from all over, from different regions. The people of different regions may have decided to aid in the construction of this tower or been forced to. This could’ve happened over many decades we know that timing in the Bible is a little odd. So this one region where the building of the tower started had one language but because of the migration of so many different peoples there were more languages thus the building of the tower of babel literally confounded their language ("their" being the people of the region.).

[@bloodyneptune]

That's actually a _fantastic_ theory!

[@wolfe6819]

@@bloodyneptune thank you!

[@EmilyVioletMarie]

Here from wendis channel!! Excited to catch up on all these podcasts I’ve missed!

[@Asignuva]

Holy cow, wendigoon. I forgot about all the terminator jesus skit lmao. "They were gonna crucify you." "I know." "And kill you..." "Dis suppose to happen." 🤣🤣 Oh the memories that just awoke

[@TheLoreLodge]

Can you please link this

[@Asignuva]

@@TheLoreLodge kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ2pYqubjdimf9E Here ya go.

[@Surfboarder4]

really enjoyed ep 3 and 4, looking forward to the next one!

[@CrackinJacks138]

Lol sopranos reference went right over their heads

[@parsifalkitty5109]

Damn do I love this whacky wendigoon. Those are the crack theories that I live for.

[@chadsherman1516]

I just started the podcast and I just realized that the term babbling or to babel as in to speak nonsense or gibberish or not be understood probably comes from the Tower of Babel lol Edit: Wendigoon literally just said it lol

[@seandawson5899]

My favorite prophet is the last judge and the O.P (original prophet), Samuel. When Samuel is down because Isreal isn't listening to him, God reminds him he isn't a bad Prophet just because people don't listen. He also Also the way he lays into Saul for the Witch of Endor situation is just as power as David during the feast IMHO. Shout out Wendigoon, his channel has a very good video about this story.

[@shibe2042]

1:47:45 I went to a Christian school when I was like 9-12 years old (not religious) and our “science” teacher believed dinosaurs didn’t exist and the earth was 7000 years old, many of the other kids and teachers agreed with him (I asked around), I know it’s not a common belief in every Christian but my experience makes me think that it’s still a large portion

[@katathoombs]

54:42 Joke's on you! As long as Bibles were handmade the deuterocanonical books were always in them. They were dropped first in English protestant editions as the mass printings began; the ppl in charge of the mass editions to-be-sent-abroad wanted to spare a Penny spare a Bob. Source: trust me bro. In all earnest one of my uni teachers loved this subject and came back to it time and time again. There must be a mention somewhere in a Wikipedia article on Bible editions and Bible societies.

[@pituitaryuser6195]

Sunday school was never this funny. 🤣

[@spazmaticfanatic6235]

I never thought I'd hear wendigoon talk about getting hard discussing the Bible while Aiden moans repeatedly

[@ethanhinojosa4371]

Been a wendi fan for a min and, although I’m not religious, I’ve always loved bible theories and hearing different interpretations of bible stories finally took his suggestion and came and watched one of y’all’s first podcasts from 8 months ago and now I’ve binged almost all the podcasts… keep it up

[@bloodyneptune]

Same! I'm not religious but I love these kinda discussions, and I'm in the middle of a binge. Its really interesting that they're religious themselves, but still doing a sort of comedy commentary on the bible. Its a really great spin on this

[@Idaho-Cowboy]

Interesting info on the dating. The book Pharos and Kings is another great look at dating backing up the Bible from a secular perspective.

[@RogerRolly]

We need more of these

[@TheLoreLodge]

They have their own channel now! The Weird Bible.

[@RogerRolly]

@@TheLoreLodge Nice! Gonna watch them all, thanks for letting me know. Keep up the great work!

[@Beta_Mixes]

Ok, Moses using a Beyblade is the most blaphemous and the most awesome thing at the same time lmao

[@weirdopepsidude]

Some ancient minecrafters built to the world's max z height and struck up an argument so intense that they would never listen to one another again.

[@crakhaed]

40:30 you guys know about Graham Hancock and the Younger Drias theory? It's fascinating how we have some physical evidence that connects to every culture's legends across the world

[@crakhaed]

"Gaslight gatekeep girlboss Christ" bruh 😂😂

[@TreyfromGA]

When Wendigoon was telling the story about Nimrod and Bugs Bunny, I thought he was going to say the joke was about Elmer Fudds height bc he’s so short, and Nimrod was a giant, supposedly, before he said it was a rip on him being a great hunter. The latter does make a lot more sense.

[@jokinplaysgames]

I'm not even religious and I find myself captivated listening to you guys discuss this stuff. More of this please.

[@snowfox94]

4:58 starting point

[@kingvinoda3896]

correction. 31:00

[@TheLoreLodge]

There's the starting point and the "we've finally gotten into the conversation we intended to have" starting point

[@MrWarptime]

I dont know what's funnier. Humans deciding that they could totally take God if they built a tower to get up to him or God seeming to not be entirely confident that they couldn't.

[@ChadOfAllChads]

Nimrod was really awesome. I remember before i didnt use to be the strongest. Then i started working out and i would say "I can be mighty in the earth". Ive changed for the better because of a biblical story and im not even a follower anymore. Old video but i love this topic.

[@CharnHorpee]

Aiden just can’t help but mention lord of the rings. At least ONCE per podcast 😂😭

[@TheLoreLodge]

IT IS NOT MY FAULT TOLKIEN BASED A LOT OF THE ELVISH STUFF ON CATHOLICISM

[@CharnHorpee]

@@TheLoreLodge Hahaha, I’m just yanking your chain man. I love the content. Have you guys done a break down of Revelations yet or are you going kind of chronologically? I think i hear it was Daniel that lined up with Revelations and that was interesting to me, seeing how they lined up. I did watch the Daniel episode, just would love to hear more!

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@CharnHorpee we’re going to get there at some point, but we need to talk about Daniel, Ezekiel, and a few others first

[@CharnHorpee]

@@TheLoreLodge right on! I figured there was a game plan, excited to see where you guys go. Thanks for the replies, God Bless

[@LupinGaius-ls1or]

Lol, the Sioux or Lakota ( I forget which, maybe both) call horses “sacred dogs”.

[@stevenpina1983]

“That gets me so hard” -Wendigoon 2022

[@BikiniBottomClips420]

Let's not forget that in Beyblade canon, Moses parted the sea with a beyblade

[@williamdunhan341]

No no no. No, Joseph's brothers actually didn't sell him. They were going to kill him, chickened out for the love they had for their father. Threw him into a pit, went away to scheme. Ishmaelites (their cousins) came along, saw this kid in a pit & pulled him out, then sold him into slavery. The oldest (forgot him name) came back to check on him, saw he was gone then proceeded to ripped his clothes in a fit of remorse, THEN the rest of them agreed to fake Joseph's death. But yeah. Joseph's brothers didn't sell him.

[@kennyreid6708]

I like this podcast, very interesting. How are you able to believe these stories and the time-line that go with them as true when there are other myths like the story of gilgamesh and the confounding of tounges in way earlier religions from the Sumerians? It seems to me that the time-line wouldn't work anymore.

[@TheLoreLodge]

I think there’s a misconception about the origins of these religions. Archaeologists and historians will often say something dates to a certain time, but what we mean by that (unless otherwise specified) is typically that that is the earliest known version of something. So the Epic of Gilgamesh may date to ~2000 BC, but it’s also certainly older than that. Same goes for Judaism. Some of the oldest books date to the 6th century, but the stories are far older than that. Recent evidence suggests the Jews were worshipping YHWH at least as early as 1200 BC, and likely as early as 2000 BC. Thing is, it really can’t be any earlier than 2000 BC. YHWH speaks to Abraham in Haran, and that’s the beginning of Judaism.

[@MrPublius]

TIL Wendigoon is Isaiah. Also these podcasts are awesome, you two are a few years younger than me and have 100x better understanding than me

[@B_g651]

Omg there really was a cars pope!!! 😂😭

[@sther1349]

I enjoyed how they imagined the tower being an embarrassing pile of bricks! Lol personally I refuse to imagine the tower as anything else other than the product of an advance lost civilization. But a few bricks by some prideful ancients nerfed by God.. hilarious

[@_BLANK_BLANK]

What? This was two hours ago, and I missed watching it live! That's disappointing.

[@iShadowBEAST]

Seriously this was amazing!

[@whiskeyhound]

Did the math on a few of those pre flood lifespans and if you replace years with months, assuming a bad/incorrect translation occurred at some point, it works out to be around 60-80 years old, which is pretty impressive but actually realistic for humans to accomplish. Would it cause massive inconsistencies with what characters are supposed to have done in their lifetimes if that was the case?

[@AntiFaGoat]

Not if any of them are related to the Nephilim.

[@whiskeyhound]

@@AntiFaGoat I mean timeline wise, as in they're doing things that clearly happened centuries apart but it's supposed to be the same person doing all of it.

[@kameronhughes884]

I don't appreciate the rip on my church toward the end 1:55 but, otherwise this was an awesome episode and gave me a lot to think about

[@TheLoreLodge]

What rip?

[@Traveling_Light]

Mixed fabrics: the fabric materials would rot and attract parasites and fungal infections due to varying rates of moisture wicking and in the case of wool, lanolin coating.

[@angelofbliss]

linen uniform, or like the japanese and greeks - it can double as protection or for placing armor over it?

[@abbyraven3883]

I didn't look through all the comments to see if this was answered, but the reason to not wear linen and wool is because there's a whole thing of not mixing 2 things together. It's kind of like not having cheese or some kind of dairy with a hamburger. It's to avoid possibly cooking the young in the milk from the mother and to keep that as distant as possible, no dairy with red meat. Reason with the pork is because pigs were seen as unclean and they don't chew their cud. There's a whole thing about certain kind of hoofs for land animals and what Jews can eat from. But in the end it all comes down to not mixing things so as not to be wasteful, show disrespect to something that is created by the creator and all that fun stuff.

[@jackbishop8610]

"That gets me so hard." -Wendigoon

[@jordanwhitfield8429]

Wow the Bugs Bunny thing blew my mind lol

[@DellBlackberry22]

I’d like to see them do an episode with the Bible Project

[@thegnosticalien]

Lol, Rogan was referencing John Marco allegros book but he wasn’t actually saying that was true it was a hypothesis that the writer the writer admitted later he made up, basically Jesus was a magic mushroom that a sex cult took is the general idea lol, to my knowledge he’s never believed it’s true but he’s told that story a bunch of times 😂 great podcast tho fellas

[@LupinGaius-ls1or]

Interestingly, Catholic and Orthodox Bibles still have Macanese as well as the other apocryphal books. It wasn’t JUST the hand writing, Luther didn’t like that he couldn’t support some arguments with them there.

[@randybobandy9208]

I think that the reason God stopped them was because they were disobeying His command to fill the earth. Also, they were trying to make a name for themselves, rather than let God make their name great.

[@ucomp1]

ik this is 2 years old - but i looked into the "Dogs come from horses" claim that sounds crazy, but Horses exist in the order Perrisodactyla which comprises of Equidae, Rhinoceratidae and Tapiridae. Perissodactyla's closest sister order (Is that the right terminology? Unsure) is Carnivora, the order in whic h the vast majortiy of carnivorous mammals come form which include dogs. Carnivora is newer that Perissodactyla by about 5 Mya. Therefore, dogs split off from a common ancestor to horses in the early Eocene, which could be interpreted as "Dogs come from horses." This is a drastic simplification, in reality horses and dogs came from a common ancestor 52 Mya, and not from each other. I can easily see how this could be misconstrued as "Dogs come from horses".

[@kmartinquadeuce]

My gf is from PA; they just pronounce a lot of words weirdly. She says "pull" and "pool" exactly the same...

[@abigailmccarthy9982]

the tower of bibble jesus was in jjba, and was a stand user

[@morton8816]

Mosaic Law was largely about God separating His people from the people that surrounded them. Things like no mixing linens symbolized purity and differentiation from neighboring tribes

[@sharkattack9850]

HOLY CRAP THEY TALKED ABOUT JOJO.

[@noravanguard]

So this is why you haven't been uploading you Sunday service videos lol. I love old testament Bible studies.

[@xXstevilleXx]

The tower of Babel (Akkadian lit. mean "Gateway of the Gods", given it was a ziggurat, there is no guess work needed, it is more accurately to say Nimrod attempted to established some kind of "Portal". In Gen is God say "let us go down and confuse..." the book of Jubilees which is referenced in the 66 Biblical Compilation of books we call the Bible (unless Catholic then there are more), says God took 70 of angels that was foremost/in front of them. Good idea would have been if you included Nimrod.

[@pamedarix8814]

Macabean revolt leads to odins pantheon, look at artwork of the families weapons. Thor literaly holds an unbreakable cross.

[@whywouldtheylie]

My boy Goon seems kinda lit!

[@TheMimiSard]

... Carl Benjamin is Nimrod.