The Traditional Relationship Will NEVER Work Today!

Full episode: • Battle of the Sexes 2:...

[@ChristIsrealLife]

I’m a traditional wife🙋🏽‍♀️. My husband works and pays all the bills and buys whatever I need . My full time job is to take care of my husbands needs, the house, and raise our son because as a woman that’s what Im built to do, and all I want to do.. my husband is built to provide and protect. My husband needs me, and I need him. It’s a partnership, a marriage.

[@serenity4ever2010]

Yessss

[@seadragon1456]

SAME!!!

[@nickijesusislord888]

So what u going to do if he ever get sick , injured or die suddenly..u have to go back to work ..u not even prepared

[@BlkIzButta]

@@nickijesusislord888 exactly. A wife should always have her own side money; in case the husband decides he no longer wants to be a husband anymore. Always have an exit plan. Too many women end up stuck relying on a man for everything; when shit goes south it’s the woman that ends up trying to pick up the pieces and figure out her next move. Only a fool would rely solely on a man for everything. I’m married saying this.

[@nickijesusislord888]

@@BlkIzButta yup

[@tammylewis1057]

My Grandmother and Grandfather were married 60 years before he passed away. My Grandmother worked. My Grandparents were traditionally untraditional. They loved each other and built together.

[@queenk.ish27]

Same here my grandmother worked as well and was married to my grandfather

[@ashasun6620]

My grandmother also worked and out lived all of her husbands

[@malikaustin9087]

Truly Beautiful

[@getwithit961]

Most black women have always worked. Housewives have traditionally been white women. Black women had to work because traditionally black men didn’t make as much money as white men. My great grandmother worked.

[@haroldajenkins7487]

@@getwithit961 facts

[@MissCraig]

Finally, a man that understands.

[@SeekingGod77]

I like this soft spoken King… he is blessed and wise

[@terrenceready9786]

90% of who agréés with him are women. This is a son husband

[@myhicks]

He is full of BS. Research the facts. BW were working. Big Momma was going out every day to clean 5-10 WW houses, then coming back to take care of her kids and the “crib.” She was not at the crib all day.

[@mistic6628]

Right, he is wrooooong

[@shanac8051]

I can't actually agree (that he's "full of BS")/ say that he's wrong, but it all depends on the region where "Big Momma" resided... Coming from someone who actually had GREAT-grandparents on up into adulthood... The *traditional* woman did NOT work (before the 50s)- at least not any Black/ minority women in the South. You have to realize the rights that were applicable that prevented work outside the home for many women. So, in all actuality, great-grandmother did not work and many GRANDMOTHERS didn't work until they fled North to escape having to help watch all those 10 kids (siblings) her Mother kept having... So, he's not necessarily speaking "cap" (as younger ppl say)... A lot of people *read* about history, but do not have firsthand knowledge... 😘 #Peace and love to all positivity in the comments #Respectfully agree to disagree

[@rwwdzzm5608]

She probably had a dude on the side and he had 2 and a spare I remember those days there’s always been cheating women and men. The majority of the women back then didn’t make enough to support themselves and kids

[@shanac8051]

@@educationispower450 Thank you. Which unfortunately seems as if others besides you, I and a few others may not have understood as the point of this clip- that money/ finances (lack thereof in the case of the "traditional" woman, or I guess, better stated as "historical" woman) *is indeed* the main factor *as well as* the basis for why a traditional woman-type/ style relationship is less prominent nowadays... (i.e., women nowadays are going to tolerate less because they ("we") see ourselves as equivalent, simply because our *finances* may now be)...

[@shanac8051]

@@rwwdzzm5608 Yes, unfortunately cheating was/ is inevitable... Definitely saw fair share of grand/GREAT-grandparents with "sides"... 😔

[@arleneaugustahair8393]

I’m in a traditional marriage. My husband works and I make sure the household is good. Women still bring some kind of income because we aren’t going to ask our husbands to give us money for our feminine products. The only thing that’s major in a traditional household is men are paying the household bills and not asking for half.

[@ReisePiece]

Facts are the majority of men nowadays make a million excuses why they can’t or shouldn’t have to provide. It’s really pathetic they are allergic to manhood, fatherhood, monogamy, and accountability. They are blame shifting gaslighters and there is always a some silly woman agreeing with their nonsense. My father and grandfather were providers, I don’t see many in the black community today. This guy is basically saying men don’t provide today because women won’t accept cheating. Makes no sense.

[@shanialee7361]

You are literally a man. 🙄

[@RichObiQuan]

Interesting.

[@terricarter9435]

A man should pay all or most of bills if he wants a traditional woman the only caviot to that is he still would have to give her half or more of everything if a divorce happens regardless

[@colwill1618]

I am in somewhat a traditional relationship. But my husband gives me everything I need and he takes care of the bills. I take care of home and make sure everything is paid for. I had a son before we got married and he takes care of him and claims him as his own. His money is my money so he gives me what I need and I give him what he needs. I do have odd jobs too so it aint like I am taking him for everything. So it's all about the situation. So I agree except my husband buys my feminine products.

[@NkemOnyeka12]

I’m 51, my husband is 33, our marriage is traditional. He’s the King, I ADORE HIM, he treats me like a real Queen and everything I need is in him, thank Yah! He takes care of me and our children. He doesn’t tolerate no mess or disrespect and I honour him.

[@susuilu]

good people still exist.... thank god

[@greypupofficial]

​@susuilu Yes, good people still exist but when you have a majority of people trying to find a good marriage with very few genuinely good partners, thats 20 people playing musical chairs with 3 chairs available. The numbers dont add up

[@aaasht2606]

"They are less likely to tolerate bs" Thats where you are right, no one no mather the gender should be forced to depend on the bs of someone else

[@aaasht2606]

@Bla Bla there are things you should not tolerate and easily forgive

[@cocoalaux4495]

@@aaasht2606 I agree. When children are involved it’s best to try to work it out if possible, but when problems are constantly repeated, or he is abusive then you have to walk away.

[@7sevyn7_]

@Bla Bla why are u even advocating Beyoncé disrespecting herself and tolerating disrespect instead adressing that jayz shouldn’t be cheating so that he can keep his family together when he is wrong??? Why is it on the woman to tolerate disrespect and not on the man to do his part on keeping his relationship together… y’all think that’s how it’s supposed to be. But when men get cheated on it’s ok and she for the streets… it’s ok to leave her and half ass take care of the kid and start another family and blame her for it???

[@joshuareynolds23]

@@7sevyn7_ Jay z is one of the richest men in America if he occasionally sleeps with another woman you fucked up. Not him. If Beyonce left and, took half of his assets he'd still be able to trade her in for the new model while she would be left with the broke and, dusty models still on the shelf at her age.

[@ndukongbertrand6116]

They still tolerate BS but aint getting married. So stop the Cap.

[@arron2lucas]

Traditionally everyone in the house over 5 years old was working...

[@BlkOnyx0508]

stop lying

[@shanialee7361]

They are so dumbbbb they don't realise before the industrial revolution everyone was working in the field, there was no one staying at home lol 🤦🏼‍♀️🤣🤣

[@NikkiiPope]

@@BlkOnyx0508 He’s not lying, ho ask your elders. It was illegal for black women not to work less than 100 years ago.

[@tommy9006]

Were they do that at,I grew up in a traditional home,We loved each other,and supported in good ,and bad.It's all love,that's what traditional about Empowerment.

[@arron2lucas]

@@BlkOnyx0508 lying about history?

[@imdagoat9453]

Big Momma worked she wash cloths did hair and cook food for other ppl smh tradition

[@petroglyph79]

That's why we gave a damn about Big Momma. These modern women want to be whores nobodies going to give a shit about when they're gone. Because they were self absorbed.

[@zoneiimobb7911]

Different Lifestyles nowadays women got work husbands her husband was her husband back in the day that's itq😂

[@leely577]

@@zoneiimobb7911 so women can't work because you're worried about another man?

[@zoneiimobb7911]

@@leely577 😂😂 I'm not stroking with a big brush you sound hurt

[@cfadmuziq9716]

In a poverty situationship.

[@_CaliGirl]

*I almost caught my sister's husband cheating. I flew in town, no1 knew I was there yet...I was out with 1 of my good friends & in comes my brother in law all dressed up. In "Date clothes" He was waiting on some chick. Married to my half sister 30 years. She's been depressed & is suffering from alcoholism. I've always said, many women married that long, in those traditional relationships have gone THROUGH HELL. So many of those men had other families across the way like this guy said or where physically abusive. My granddad used to cheat and take me with him. I hung out with his chicks & him & the woman's kid if they had 1. He liked younger chicks. Women STAYED in that shii. Those sh*tty marriages. They felt they had to! NOT TODAY THO!

[@urlocaldad8052]

Both my grandparents worked and took care of the family... Today, the first sign of hard times, they would rather jump ship then work thru it

[@vanderumd11]

We really need to understand... These people worked to. Speak to your grandma, she had a JOB. She was retired by the time you came along

[@ReisePiece]

Right, my grandmas had college degrees and worked

[@opulence_prime]

My gma was a lunch lady. It was the highlight of my day seeing her.

[@TheColumbiakid]

Retired? In the 20s? And being black companies retired black women or men in the 20s??

[@TheColumbiakid]

@@ReisePiece what jobs did they have in the 20s or 30?

[@ReisePiece]

@@TheColumbiakid my grandmothers did accounting, but one of my great grand mothers was a share cropper not sure about the rest, but I had an ancestor a few generations before that, she was a realtor and a cake maker in the mid 1800s.

[@darrellwilliams1714]

You're also skipping the fact that people actually got to know eachother before marriage and kids. That's the main issue. We are skipping steps to a solid relationship. If I'm smashing after the first date what do I know about you? Just that I'm sexually attracted? We start there and stay there then once we get married our sexlife( which was the basis of the relationship anyway) falls off, then what? Then we have to try to either find actual love or leave. And most will choose leave.

[@treymiller5736]

Many today can’t separate love from lust. So tricks for women to keep lust high, never date anyone past 18 months, always keep the relationship on edge need so risk and teeth in it. So if you need lust it’s kinda hard to get married.

[@PlatinumHustle]

Exactly

[@shawnlove4502]

No they didn't. People married very quickly lol

[@thagoodzgirl3840]

Yeah right they was doing it on the first day too. There is nothing new under the sun

[@88wins]

That’s not true, there were a lot of arranged marriages back in the days were the fathers would set their daughters up with men they didn’t know personally well, a lot if the times older men. And the woman stayed in it b/c she didn’t know anything else and those were “the rules”.

[@sterry8895]

Finally a man with common sense. Today’s women DO NOT have to settle for abuse,etc. Most of us are out here making it happen when no one else will

[@davidb9779]

But they still want men to pay for everything you modern women cant demand traditional men

[@r.1.336]

@C0ttee so no man or abusive one hmm I’m sure I’ll go with the abusive one !!😁 are you stupid ? Or is that not what you meant from you’re comment if it isn’t apologies

[@josiahbutler2254]

@@davidb9779there are several millions of women today that already pay half & still with the same man, so who told you that?

[@uraldixon9673]

​@@josiahbutler2254We're talking about regular people not rich ones

[@ToddRogers00]

​@@josiahbutler2254there are also a vast majority of women who DEMAND their man makes as much as they do or more. Why? Because they are biologically programmed to want the provision and protection (financial) of a man they deem suitable. We all are dizzy and lost in modernism as if the ways of ancestors for thousands of years arent in our epigenetics. Modern society is literally trying to fight against our very nature in the name of liberalism, 3rd wave feminism, and all these other isms. We have become completely narcissistic, selfish, money hungry, and out of touch with our spirit bc of our fleshly, carnal, worldly desires.

[@bonitaapplebum423]

Everything he said is accurate. Hence the reason mothers stressed to their daughters to have their own money.

[@greypupofficial]

This! My grandmother was abandoned by her first husband from an arranged marriage after she had a child with him. She then built a fence up with a no nonsense BS it took my grandfather everything in him to convince her he wanted her forever and she finally let her guards down because of his perseverence. He died after they had 6 children, and as a widow, she became an officer and protected her 6 kids, and had income. There were men who wanted an arranged marriage by bribery for one of my aunts, grandma put a pistol to their face and told em to GTFO. Those men triggered her trauma and she was ready to shoot them on her yard. She didnt want any of her daughters to go through that same mess she did.

[@johnrichards3848]

I'm 55 and my wife and I have traditional marriage, so to speak. We respect each others space and every day at 6am we meet on the front porch and have conversations and some days we don't speak one word. Even if we are at odds we still meet. In the evening after work we meet. Rinse and repeat. It's about companionship, commitment and the love for one another. Stay solid at the core.

[@practicaldeen5333]

May the Almighty bless you, keep you healthy, safe and increase your love and commitment for each other. Amin.

[@MrHajisurahata]

🙌🙌✊

[@noble604]

Sitting and meeting on the front porch at 6pm everyday sounds like THE most wonderful life. Blessings to you both

[@noble604]

*am

[@TheMzshaw]

❤️

[@aviissac2628]

BW ALWAYS WORKED

[@BjtheLawyer_]

Bingo!!!! Idk why bw use the argument women didn’t work when bw worked since slavery

[@nickijesusislord888]

Right

[@jaquaveonandress649]

I think he means as the bread winner, yea they worked but weren’t necessarily the break winner 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@BjtheLawyer_]

@@jaquaveonandress649 that still makes no sense. The point is bm have never oppressed bw, why? Because bw have always worked. Bm were never keeping bw from striving to do more because we both have been oppressed at the same time only now bw actually are less oppressed than bm.

[@seandeans1279]

No they didn’t. My grandmother raised all 11 of her kids while my grandfather worked. You can stop lying now

[@jenniferlynn3721]

There comes a sense of entitlement when “ the man” is working and “ the woman “ is working in the home. Back then was for survival-

[@joshuareynolds23]

I'd say women are the entitled ones now. They owe you nothing even if you give everything.

[@citeebayconvey2935]

The question is are you married..

[@faith6575]

Big mama also had a husband who was a rolling stone, and she was making money on the side. Big mama was the person y’all dropped the kids off to because you couldn’t take care of them. Big mama had hella stress because her husband had outside children, she had health issues that she told no one about. And most of the time she suffered physical and emotional abuse from her husband. Big mama struggled like nobody’s business, but she never said a single word. Don’t let big mama be the prototype to traditionalism, because black men have lied to themselves that all they need to do is the bare minimum and the black woman will do the rest. Big mama never enjoyed her life fully and she was never truly happy. Remember that big mama was also the one who woke up at 4am to catch the bus so she can help a white woman take care of her husband. Black women, let these White, Latina and Asian women take over, because a vast majority of black women have never had the opportunity to be homemakers, or stay at home moms. The majority of black men do not make enough money to take care of a household with one child by themselves. And when they make money to afford a family, they either stay bachelors right play the field or they marry white and other non black women. Black men talk all this bs about wanting a traditional wife, but they can’t even provide, and they’re not ready to be husbands. A lot of them are in a state of arrested development where their bodies grow, but their mind is still 16 years old. And these men are not married, but they’re trying to shame you into marriage. It may be sad for some of you but the only way that a black woman will be able to be a homemaker is to marry a man from a different race where resources and a good family structure and leadership is normalized. And that’s the honest truth.

[@zerotolerance2026]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 This comment right here!!!

[@Rellstv50]

This comment is everything. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@MississippiSoulchic]

🎤

[@moemo4556]

Neither one understand the traditional relationship...

[@copiouscat]

At all.

[@k9spodkast327]

The man does😂heen lie once especially down south 😂💯

[@user-pf1fr2zg1e]

@T. H. everyone was overworked and tired. We arent married because the woman thought she could take a check from the gov’t in exchange for husbands.

[@StevenSanchezWelding]

@@user-pf1fr2zg1e 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@aamazintribe]

Traditions are important and meaningful strength & culture, etc.

[@amazinggrace313]

This is correct . Women don’t have to be stuck with someone anymore

[@MsAngie-he5uv]

EXACTLY!!!! Big Mama took a LOT of crap because SHE HAD NO CHOICE, the game done changed. We not tolerating no foolishness now.

[@ExtendoShow]

I disagree. A traditional relationship have always work. The problem is people are too sensitive when it comes to money. Most of these podcasts about men and women relationships circulating around money

[@mariebright6985]

Man of valour, you betta preach!!!! And tradition has nothing to do with it. This is deeper than tradition. We were never built to move from a place of tradition. This generation has a misunderstanding about principles and standards that preserve a person's life, especially in relationships.

[@prettyangel0921]

Can you elaborate further on how traditional relationships have always worked, please?

[@focusedallday5620]

Traditional relationships only benefits beta males and simps. Only in modern society can women date who they really want. Men should be happy! Imagine being with a chick that is with you for resources!!

[@mariebright6985]

@@focusedallday5620 Shalom man of valour and many blessings to you and to your beautiful family. The man of valour's statement is not focusing on money. He is speaking about the principles that hold relationships together. Traditions can never fortify a real and authentic relationship. And money cannot do it either. Love and principles are the foundation, not traditions and money.

[@BjtheLawyer_]

@@mariebright6985 people don’t leave marriages for lack of love. Love is not the issue. It’s because people lack duty and loyalty in a marriage

[@montana8779]

And if tying my livelihood to a man means that a man think he about to have another family across the tracks, then I choose to support my own livelihood!😂 Like, why y’all didn’t want better for Big Mama?😩

[@nickijesusislord888]

Exactly

[@sterlingsilver5937]

What the fuck are you talking about?

[@megastutter8701]

Y'all take a generalization and try to make it so specific

[@selfaware6144]

its a disease and most people i have met have it now... its pathetic

[@lenzphillz1897]

I don't know if this brother had to resite that 100 times or what but that was the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth

[@MrSoulofaRebel]

There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion. Daniel Dennett

[@dually81]

"People can't be talked out of illusions." -Alan Watts

[@wins.8073]

Can you share what illusion you are referring; I'm curious.

[@Leeohlin89]

@@wins.8073exactly

[@Leeohlin89]

What illusion are you referring to with that quote?

[@Contextual_Christian_Church]

The reason divorce is so high today is because people since getting to chose they own partner 9 times out of 10 pick based on emotion and not compatibility

[@ivye1826]

It’s actually because no fault divorces are legal. Back in the days you had to prove that you were cheated on or abused etc. Nowadays you can divorce if she got fat or he lost his job.

[@Contextual_Christian_Church]

@@ivye1826 that does play a part but if compatability was saught and not going in blind filled with emotion... there would be no abuse or cheating in the first place

[@stormship1647]

And lust …not values and compatibility

[@dolphin069]

Just attraction. That’s it.

[@shuntavaisjohnson345]

True

[@KiRetteCouture]

He spoke the plain truth! Choice is only real if the woman has what it takes to leave but decides to stay and build a family with a man.

[@ldylibra_thediviner4820]

This is true in my experience, neither one of my grandmother's worked, never in my life did I ever know them to have jobs and they went through lots of BS and stayed until the end.

[@MicsteriousA1]

This is the World we inherited, really when I think about it, the roles seem to have changed, or I should say equal. Because this was the man's attitude in the past. It's just like he said. Now we're competing against each other, and that's part of the problem. And you get into a battle of wits, I don't like that, it should be cooperation. That's the Key! Thank you for sharing! Mic'22

[@v3r1typroj3kt8]

That’s cause women wouldn’t stop when they finally got the jobs they then “had” to take the place of men cause a lot of the quote on quote independent women nowadays were not raised by a man in the house now they try to preach on what a man supposed to be cause they’re such the experts

[@naelyneurkopfen9741]

You have no idea what you're talking about. None.

[@britvica]

@@v3r1typroj3kt8 wtf are you?! Quote ON quote?! English is not even my second language, but third..but ON quote?! How old are you? What do you know about the past?! Nothing! You, man and women born after 2000 are just utterly...spoiled. this is unbelievable.

[@miyangtangwan7046]

We may compete in the world for resources etc but the competition should not extend to our relationships and marriages.

[@TheMzshaw]

Cooperation would happen if there were more leaders to actually follow

[@tommy9006]

When Men&Women together, is a strong union.

[@Tezzybiz]

Facts

[@copiouscat]

Yessss key word here is together and I believe black folk as a collective lost sight of partnership and union when the concepts of “submission” and “independence” came to play. 🫤🤷🏽‍♀️

[@erica_estyledaily]

He’s talking about Great & Grandparents age range. My Granny worked til retirement, raised 6 children and stayed married for 64years. They passed away in their 80’s. They went their issues but never gave up on each other nor their children and grandchildren. I’m almost 45 and my generation is still partying, still flip flopping in the sheets and not wanting to be responsible in a marriage. This is the problem!

[@finalphalax]

agreed. also try to notice this, men dont court anymore. They are afraid and cautious to approach women.

[@Dolphmajesty7997]

This man is preaching 💯💪

[@butterf1ykiss3s24]

I appreciate this man for speaking up and saying what some of us been saying ...

[@RDCFemmes]

Whose tradition are you talking about? BW were working in the plantation just as BM were, BW were maid for white families while BM worked in their factories so what "traditionally" is he talking about? The women who didn't work were from wealthy families and the other women worked for them so women have always worked and contributed

[@catmouse2882]

This is why when I see BW living a soft life being fully provided for by their NON-BLACK partners...it gives me so much joy💜💜💜🖤🖤🖤 Black men want us to mule AND submit...like....where they do that????🤣

[@leonardthompsonjr3948]

@@catmouse2882 - Partners??? No woman wins till she get that ring

[@anthonycook4441]

Back in the day Grandma was not at Home taking care of her 10 children, she was in Mister Charlie's house taking care of his 2 or 3 children and cooking,cleaning and all the other things that Ms.Charlie needed.

[@_danyelb]

Exactly. I’m glad a man said it

[@Yaya-lu8bs]

Don't tell me!!! The traditional relationship won't work today. When God ordained marriages he made No Mistakes!!!! NONE!!!!

[@thegreycouncil4917]

1 man and at least 4+ wives/concubines?

[@dragonfly4494]

Aren't you contradicting yourself?

[@jowill3508]

God ain’t real lmfao

[@nickijesusislord888]

He wants people to be saved n men love their wives like Christ love the church

[@thegreycouncil4917]

@@nickijesusislord888 what? That makes no sense lol the church was created after his death, it didn't even exist for him to love, if I'm not mistaken, Jesus disposed of his own religion and "church" and wandering about preaching a new way of living.

[@usmcdevildog6935]

That's a foolish point... the murder rate was also lower so was drug addiction,, crime rate. Also you're wrong about the black community; black men did not earn enough to support a family 70% of black wives worked. Know your history.

[@catmouse2882]

Black men STILL, as a collective, don't earn enough to financially support a family....still.

[@basimahknowshow]

They had to work unfortunately like we do now!

[@thesagesapprentice383]

@@catmouse2882 Consider citing your source on this one. The BLS data will likely disprove your assertion.

[@HoudaOussous]

There is more people now

[@09gee]

Why did this go to race?

[@TEM14411]

AMEN! people need to consider why things have changed.

[@sharmasennu]

Marriages work because people actively listen and try to comprehend their partner on a level no one else does

[@vc8143]

He's correct...if he is referring to the 40's and 50's. Because I know from experience companies were barely giving men jobs...their limited childcare...even baby sitters...even if she had a job. Many families were in the exact circumstances. Particularly in the midwest and down south.Folks learn to research...read. Stop looking at things based on your limited world. READ!

[@MrDreskee03]

People focus on too many movies and nostalgia they never even experienced. The average white family in the those days had the comfortably of making 400 grand (in todays money) a year, grants from the government for houses, and welfare. Their weren't as many millionaires also. Everyone is in love with this life style of being traditional that really didn't exist in the 40s and 50s. A lot of people had 2 parents working and the laws weren't the same. Dad had kids around the corner and mom had that one kid that didn't look like the others. It all was a fairy tale. What made it hard to divorce or leave was the judgment people would face in those times so parents stayed together. Now couples can split for no reason. I agree 100% people actually need to do research about these traditional relationships. A lot of bad things happened in the old days.

[@TheMzshaw]

@@MrDreskee03 You’re so right, they just swept it all under the rug

[@jamesbroderick9106]

I'm 56 years old I've lived a lifetime but I know one thing and one thing for sure it's all about the money it's not about love anymore there's no toleration in life it's just all about you and what you can get. Just sad

[@r.1.336]

Well when you need money to survive then yeah obviously

[@b3laughyoassoff6]

Shidd brah spit real shit

[@michaelparms6666]

Someone told yall how to live your life and keep telling you. BE FREE ENOUGH to choose your own way if living and find family to support you and make you feel like its the right way to live.

[@Elegantchoco-lit]

You’re incorrect! I really love how you over look the fact that men had a family mindset more often than not. I come from a long line of marriages. Working men and women that didn’t stray or break. Men lack honesty, honor, respect, pride and more importantly God.

[@leonardthompsonjr3948]

I agree with u… the men of old in my family history also were serious family men

[@dually81]

I really love how you overlook the fact that women have continued to lay with and birth the children of these men that lack honesty, honor, respect, pride and most importantly God. Sounds like, maybe... both genders are to blame for the degradation of the family structure.

[@k9spodkast327]

Ahhh hell she putting it all on us 😂

[@tyroneking6883]

*people. Men and women

[@7sevyn7_]

@@dually81 sir more often then not the women are being lied to and serious decisions are made before these lies are discovered. I wish men would man up. Society would literally change over night. Blame the liar not the deceived

[@lilbrah4794]

I haven’t been in a relationship since HS I just don’t see the point anymore… lowkey depressing

[@citeebayconvey2935]

Oh really..

[@Katarina23]

Good

[@lilbrah4794]

@@TroubleWorld I sense sarcasm. Please Explain. Why don’t YOU see the point anymore?

[@neoloanderson6676]

Jheez that is depressing, but what's more depressing is being dissapointed, let down, hurt.

[@bigh9884]

Good for you. Date who the hell you want without a commitment.

[@nina7229]

I really don’t know what kind of “grown women” are out there today but I’m 20 years old .. been with my boyfriend for over 3 years in that span of time I’ve watched him lose his father suddenly, purchase a home by himself and MAINTAIN his bills and household! Every relationship has there ups and downs but we don’t fight. I’ve seen him at lows and highs and I love him more everyday! I appreciate him as well he’s definitely a GREAT MAN!!! He doesn’t make 100k a year but he still makes me feel SECURE in all aspects and that’s what I can respect the most! I agree with a lot of men today the pool of women they have to choose from is very poor... when I met my boyfriend I was a virgin.. I was scared to even kiss anybody. I didn’t even really date in high school until I met him my senior year and been together ever since. I watch my mom who just turned 40 struggle with dating so much and I think its these unattainable/ unrealistic standards y’all are setting for these men and YOURSELVES when you already 1,2,3,4,5 kids especially by different men and all you can bring to the table is a “bag” or your body (sex).. also a lot of women nowadays are extremely sexually promiscuous and LOUD AND PROUD about it and then on the other side yelling somebody needs to wife them when you’re a whore🤦🏽‍♀️ why should he wine and dine you when he knows he can have you by the 2nd or 3rd date lol..I think a lot more women need to put themselves in men shoes! And ask yourself do you deserve man let alone a good man!

[@Floridabred]

Ma'am you deserve that good man. Not that you needed me to tell you that,but I commend you young lady for saving yourself for your man. As you said women today are extremely promiscuous they love to leave that point out. It's a major one but they ignore it and say just pay all the bills and shut up. This is why I'll never marry or have children it's scary out here,they're trying to shame us into marrying a ran through woman who thinks she's born again her past should matter. It really does but thank you for seeing what we've been seeing and saying for years. They can keep their "bag" and date the guys who are ok with getting with them Nd that baggage they come with. They'll never care abt what it takes for us to want them but yet we become providers to take care of ourselves ofcourse,but also for our family if we have one. They can't even save themselves or atleast respect their bodies for themselves and their future husband.Theyre reckless

[@Floridabred]

Yall witches keep women promiscuous with no morals and man haters. Out of everything positive she said. You decided to manifest harm on her and her relationship. All in the name of the Sisterhood cult? Yall even attack eachother when one isn't falling in line with your ways.

[@nina7229]

@@suziepeaches321 not acting superior... just making a observation and voicing my opinion... if it offended you then maybe you should take that up with yourself 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@SQUELCH-zj7il]

So you met your bf at 17? "I was a virgin" ... You were a teenager of course you would be ? 😂

[@nina7229]

@@SQUELCH-zj7il uh you must not be a teen or haven’t recently been a teen 😂😂!! Megan thee stallion arose when I was 17 years old in my senior year and now the teen girls have sexy red to look at🤦🏽‍♀️ bc Im 22 now and have still til this day only slept with one guy! Even tho this generation encourages thot behavior and to “just get the bag” smh.. I just saw some show where young women were arguing if having 35 bodies a year is average or not!! I don’t need your cookie 🍪 I have my own!! Im one of the VERY few! And it’ll stay that way for the rest of my life, I can gurantee 😉!

[@brooker.9305]

I agree with this man 100%.

[@gdwest5308]

I call 🧢 The average woman in the U. S. makes less than 30K a year. So where’s the bag you speak of? Oh they get an extra stipend (our taxes) from the government and or they baby daddy‼️ 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@mikelowry2865]

Huh?

[@gdwest5308]

@@nickijesusislord888 ok 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@gdwest5308]

@@nickijesusislord888 🤦🏾‍♂️ ok 👍🏿

[@staceywilliams1863]

You talking about the broke bitches in ya family and who you socialize with! 🤫

[@88Bigs88]

Bro, you are right. Men, on average, make more than women. There is a 10000 income gap

[@christalthompkins5181]

My grandma worked and had 13 kids and a husband and he worked

[@jalitapollard9378]

Then that was not a traditional relationship then. Look up the meaning

[@leonfrancis3418]

@@jalitapollard9378 That aas a traditional Black relationship in this country. Look up your history.

[@KC-lg8qf]

This brother is 100% correct. This is also why friendships and relationships with family also are not the same. People used to rely on each other for survival.... It's easier to betray someone, or be disloyal when you don't rely on them for anything but superficial friendship.

[@MikeJones-nq6nv]

He’s not mentioning that it’s at the expense of the kid. Women in the olden days were wise and understood the importance of both parents raising the kids. Women today in our culture don’t seem to care!

[@ddddddno24]

Big mamma was always working....taking in laundry etc

[@quantumsolace5864]

It won't work in this society; this country.

[@beno6198]

Cellphones.. technology period killed that my guy

[@angelgreen9945]

You preaching young man.

[@naturalwalker5407]

Word! Love this Man right here

[@Mrs.Fluellen]

I disagree! My parents were Married, both of them worked & raised 10 children. My Mother just celebrated her 85th Birthday. They would've celebrated 68 years of marriage this year. My Father passed in 1997. Both of my in laws work & raised 3 children. My Hubby & I work & we will be celebrating 23 years. I can go on and on giving examples of other Traditional Marriages. #Traditional

[@catmouse2882]

What woman desires to work AND take care children, cook, and clean the house???? Your Black mothers and grandmother's were mules. Thank God more Black women are choosing themselves and not allowing themselves to be partner with men who can't provide an middle or upper middle class lifestyle....without her labor /income.

[@chrisharris2367]

@@catmouse2882 my grandmother’s both black, in middle class and never worked I love the example they showed that black women don’t have to be mules

[@blackbluelion8902]

@@catmouse2882 you delusional please tell in history when black women did not work. When black people were slaves both men and women were forced to work. After the Civil War when blacks were free during Reconstruction in this country BOTH black men and women w had to work to provide for their families. They were share croppers in the field and many did that dor Decades well into the turn of the 20th century. At the beginning of the 20th century even into the Civil rights movement black women were working picking cotton, working as seamstress, working as cooks. From 1865 - 1965 Very, very few black women stayed home not worked and stayed with the kids. Both the man and the woman worked together to build a life for their family. That's why they stayed married 40, 50, and 60 years. Some modern want to shame men because they are ask to contribute financially to the household?? Social media is making women more and more delusional. The reality is MOST household are going to require both the man and the woman to work to build something to make it today

[@r.1.336]

@@catmouse2882 or you could just split chores … it’s not like before the wife came along you weren’t washing you’re own dishes

[@rushfactor980]

I’ll be damned if my wife works instead of stay home. I could rent a 1 bedroom apartment if she ain’t gonna enjoy the crib

[@shawnlove4502]

You know not all women wanna be at home

[@rushfactor980]

@@shawnlove4502 no one wants to stay home all the time... the point is my wife doesn't have to work if she doesn't want to. if she wants to do something she can just pick up a hobby and live life like she's been doing.

[@r.1.336]

@@rushfactor980 yeah but what’s the point in that ? Some people like going to work and socialising with people it’s not just all about you secondly how are you affording this I’m sure you don’t earn that much so to ask someone to not work is quite a big deal when you don’t earn much but even if you do let’s say you do which you probably don’t where is the security for you’re wife would you be willing to pay you’re wife if you cheated on her as part of the divorce or what because she could have got herself a good paying career over the 10,20 etc years she was with you and now that’s time is lost

[@reikojones6789]

Simp

[@Zombie1.8.7]

Bruh this guy is like a hammer 🛠, He hits the nail on the head everytime 💯 🙉 🙈 🙊

[@Broken_No_More]

👁️ Opening and so true!

[@toohonestdont1overreact198]

I love how all these single ppl have an opinion on relationships look at the irony

[@fredjohnson1996]

What kind of families is he talking about ? Perhaps in some cases, however there were solid families too where you had a white collar husband, a happy house wife. Where there wasn't dysfunction. I know I witnessed it personally.

[@v3r1typroj3kt8]

If you didn’t notice idk if your color blind but these are black ppl so no duh you saw that in a white household 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@jawvees2585]

perspective changer 🍃yeah I actually agree 👍

[@kenajiyo]

Back-in-day those women worked! The crib stayed clean,food was cooked on time (fresh ) and she also took care of her womanly duties. And she never tolerated BS. She just didn’t get out there and embarrassed her man in public. If they couldn’t settle the problem they took it to the elders.

[@greypupofficial]

Even when she got everything in order, men still beat their wives, abandon, or cheat on them back in the days. I worked around all women for 14 years as a physical therapist, behind closed doors... the elderly ladies told stories that makes you realize why so many women are hardset on being financially independent and they drill it on their daughters to not be dependent on one person that isnt themselves.

[@amccauley2040]

And the men did back breaking work. He wasn't getting manni I petti's, $200 hair cuts and beard trims, and Jordan's!

[@jayking1773]

They still do back breaking they just take care of they selfs better and you got a problem with that 🤔 not surprising🤦🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️

[@jzurita6186]

Who do think is running everything, doimg the hvac work, the bridges, dams, ect. Its still MEN, even the ones that get beard trims and jordans lol

[@whatever-fs5zs]

thank you

[@00black88]

Statistics do not support this

[@kalonb5101]

The same work is getting done. The infrastructure of the world is still maintained by men. You don’t see women hanging off the side of buildings and bridges, working underground.

[@Voltan-wl8bw]

Actually wymmin have always worked, but back in the day they had the option of being housewives. The whole wymmin didn’t work is not entirely true.

[@dedricklane4899]

That’s true especially American black women always worked. How many black peoples grandma and great grandma were domestic workers back in the 50s. Plenty.

[@Nordia16]

Wymmin? What's the story behind that spelling? 🤔 genuine question.

[@bernadettesandoval3990]

It's a big fat lie

[@Voltan-wl8bw]

@@bernadettesandoval3990 what do you mean?

[@hollywooddc1708]

@@Nordia16 Misspelling to prevent being detected by the KZbin police

[@supermstash29]

Tradition isn’t, woman is home maker, man is bread winner… it’s Faithfulness, understanding you’re a team Everyone these days is so damn “independent” that all they do is end up alone… the purest form of independence

[@ronaldbcarter2995]

Men And Women Must Step It Up When It Comes To Their EDUCATIONAL UNDERSTANDING Of SPIRITUAL LIFE

[@TKGaddy_4Yah]

I love how people bring up problems they have never witnessed in the black home. Not saying some men didn't have families on the other side of the tracks, but that was not every story. The truth is the valued family period! This independent woman thing is an excuse to say if I can't control you we can split up the family, and the law says men have to pay women not to value the family structure so its all a while win for women. This is why our divorce rate is high, ain't nobody out here having two families in 2020s

[@leonardthompsonjr3948]

Thank u 🙏🏿! U speaking facts

[@itsnotmeitsyou717]

This is quite ignorant. The men have to pay women because of the feminisation of poverty and men paying helps to somewhat mitigate that very prevalent and pervasive issue. Women aren't paid to not value family structure wtf. And those multiple homes was a very prevalent issue which is why ppl often bring that up smh. Everyone has an issue with "independent women," it's always women's fault and never men's it seems. Shows exactly why things are as they are.

[@jennifergeorge7280]

My husband fully provides for our family of 6. I stay home and educate our children and make our home. It’s the best.

[@r.1.336]

Those children are going to be horrible at socialising when they are older

[@Thomas-mn6fj]

Excellent point!

[@pamelaking4549]

He is speaking truth. Thank you!

[@roxeloggins]

There's always gonna be some Traditional Relationship....

[@bighut24]

Traditional-ish but never truly Traditional

[@roxeloggins]

Can't speak for everyone... Different generations...

[@kaybrown7733]

Boom! I've been saying this forever! When you take care of yourself ladies you don't have to tolerate bs! 👏👏👏👏👏👏🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@dragonfly4494]

What advice do you give to the young women with 3 children that's receiving govt assistance? They make up a big part of the population.

[@kanerobb612]

@@dragonfly4494 The damage has been done. 3 kids and young. My advice would be, when your kids are in school, you go back to school. Make yourself viable in the workforce.

[@kaybrown7733]

@@dragonfly4494 I'd say get your finances in order and take care of your children. That's the most inmportant thing. I know a lot of them and most are not on government assistance because they make too much money. Even if you're disabled in my state you don't get much. The working poor are also a large part of the population. But that doesn't fit your stereotype so people like you ignore them until you don't get your food fast enough .

[@dragonfly4494]

@@kaybrown7733 So,the women on govt assistance and the large amount of women who are a part of the working poor would benefit from traditional marriages right?

[@kaybrown7733]

@@dragonfly4494 No not unless it was what they wanted. You know that thing that all authoritarians want for yourselves but not everyone else called freesom. It's not your job nor is it any of your business. If you have time to point out everyone's issues that you find horribke then it's you who has the problem. FYI capitalism is built on the permanent underclass. Meaning this thing will break down without the exploitation of poor people. Notice that the Fed and people in the government were actially saying that people's wages need to fall to stop infkation. I know you people love to blame women for all of the world's problems but we can't be your scapegoat for everything. it's way mote complicated than your brain can understand apparently.

[@latoyasykes1]

Dude is absolutely correct.

[@xXxSerpentxXx]

I'm in a traditional marriage. I haven't worked since i got pregnant with our first child. Almost 5 years ago. It works and i love it just as much as he does

[@vanmicheaux993]

I'm an old cat I know exactly what Young dude is talking about I just can't believe a cat that young would have that kind of history in him, but he's exactly right. whoever doubt him find somebody with gray hair and ask them and I bet they validate everything he said

[@theheaddhunter9072]

I'm sure he did the same thing and talked to the old heads in his family like many of us did which is how we have so much wisdom and history in us. U baby boomers always underestimating and judging someone for their age as if u know as much as u should to have been on the earth as long as u have. We look at history and see where y'all went wrong, u did what u could.... WE DO WHAT WE WANT. Change has come🧘‍♀️💕💕💕

[@lyndielynn496]

Yep..That's exactly how it was..And men cheated back then too..but even though Daddy had kids around the corner..He still took care of home..And women weren't leaving they had nowhere to go

[@neosenkge7589]

She asked the question with such contempt ! Men today really have a small pool of feminine women to choose from. She IS NOT IN THAT POOL ! And homegirl, dress appropriately, what you're wearing is not attractive.

[@vanderumd11]

It's great just as a buss down. Do not take women who dress like her seriously

[@neosenkge7589]

@@vanderumd11 and this is what women need to hear loud and clear.

[@vanderumd11]

@@neosenkge7589 its just that they take All attention as good attention. Yes men hollar because we think youre easy dressed like that... it is what it is. males are not designed to be super selective with regards to sex. we are selective with who we marry and introduce to family.

[@TomikaKelly]

She is not dressing to attract YOU, Neo. She is also not concerned about what pool YOU think she's in. IJS. 🤷‍♀️

[@TomikaKelly]

@@vanderumd11 Something tells me she won't allow YOU to buss her down....

[@Chefkatatl]

💯 I agree things are very different now

[@gmoney4236]

True motherhood is the most important job on this planet. If you don't believe it, look at the quality of the families today, vs back then.

[@CuratedVibes]

My grandparents had a severely toxic relationship. He kept cheating having side kids along with the 10 kids they shared together. My grandma was a G...she left him, made him take the kids and went to live her single life for a few years. Her kids weren't mad cause they knew my grandpa cheated and abused her.

[@sarahbaer1593]

Abuse is the worst. Especially alcoholics who don’t care. They are unendingly selfish when they have a kid that they need to provide for.

[@greypupofficial]

That sounds just like my grandmother. Her first husband abandoned her for another woman after they had a child and she gave that child up to his side of the family

[@dontdomeboo81]

facts

[@Newholland1982]

One of the main reasons for such a high divorce rate nowadays is “peoples expectations are too high and unrealistic,

[@monicamolina2221]

I agree with him. He should not have to tolerate bullshit. That is the double edge of women empowerment.

[@lt8473]

Thank you finally someone who actually understands what marriage was back in the day.

[@phyiscalsteam7273]

When men make a lot of money they think about providing for their family When a woman makes a lot of money she thinks I don't need a man

[@shuntavaisjohnson345]

True

[@phyiscalsteam7273]

😂😂😂😂

[@phyiscalsteam7273]

90% of college women go through divorce Just spitting facts

[@nubiansis4440]

Men say some women say they don't need them if they have their money. You guys made up that statement instead of being better men to women....that's the easiest excuse to fuss at some women. Most women don't say that. Most women are just saying since we don't have to stay under negative circumstances in relationships like big mama and some traditional women of the past did (such as abuse, forever girlfriend status, cheating, infidelity, unappreciated, overworked at home, common law titles, disrespect) they rather stay single until someone suitable comes along.

[@amazinggrace313]

Men definitely start exercising other women in his life because now he feels he can do it. Stop the self righteous bullshit

[@lanaranger9770]

Finally, someone who knows. Taking all kind of disrespect because you can't help yourself

[@iamlove8783]

The is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT...

[@GXilla]

Nah to many holes in his explanation, I feel like, his point was spot on but his reason for it was kind of shaky

[@samgunz1]

Can you explain?

[@unusedname197]

@@samgunz1 *crickets*

[@tonzeboykin8491]

No shaking its a commonsense fact and also forgot to mention the strong sense of trust that came from the emotions of living closely and equally yoked

[@brandonjohnson3881]

@@samgunz1 dude was completely on point with his assessment... a lot of men fail to realize relationships lasted back in the day because for women having a husband meant life or death... its not the same now so women will not settle for shinanigans

[@tracypouncy1178]

He is absolutely correct. I see NO holes in his explanation. I grew up in the 60s I witnessed many women, Black, White and Latina, tolerate a massive amount of disrespect, physical and verbal abuse, infidelity etc. because their husbands were the sole breadwinner. They had no income of their own, unless their families had money. Divorce was for the rich. Now, thank God, women have more financial independence, and opportunities for higher education. Let a man tell a hard working, educated Mom that HE is king of the castle......that guy will be waking up in the ER!

[@g4do]

I lost focus at chest 😕 every word turned into chest , after chest . Damn chest...

[@thnzxc]

Oh you heard chest too? Thought it was just me!😆

[@staceywilliams1863]

My lively hood will NEVER be tied to another! NEVER!!!!

[@tashaheidelburg5181]

Great point!

[@MsJoyce31202]

Damn sure won't stay if I can get my own.

[@ishaspeaks4536]

I’m like Rochelle from Everybody Hates Chris “My husband got two jobs” 💅👠

[@JayEP86]

My grandfather never had outside kids, but his dad did. My grandmother dad never had outside kids either. I was fortunate to meet my great grandparents in the mid 80 until the 90s

[@whatshedoing8993]

And birth control wasn’t “trash”. Back then those ppl were married they didn’t use birth control. They just had those 10 kids lol