THE TRAGIC MURDER OF JAMES BULGER

[@phoebelivingstone4711]

Broke my heart when he said they kept throwing bricks at him to make him fall over but ‘he kept getting back up’ :( RIP James

[@GR-sx9ri]

Phoebe L makes you wish the baby would’ve just stayed down, maybe they would’ve stopped... my heart hurts for this baby and every baby/child who has had their life taken way too early

[@roxxyp6766]

He was very brave

[@oliviatumbles3335]

Phoebe Livingstone that was the bit that made me stop what I was doing... unbelievable

[@howhow508]

Rip 🥺

[@bobbbb3713]

I made it 2.2k likes and yes it’s acc sad ;c

[@laurennotreal]

HOW DID 10 YEAR OLDS DO SUCH A THING when i was 10 i accidently hit my friend and felt bad for a year

[@ayybibi]

Nayeons foot probably because you aren’t a psychopath

[@Jess-wk5oh]

Accidentally ran into my older brother with a shopping trolley when I was ten. He didn’t cry, but I did because I felt horrible. At the age of 10 we should know the difference between right and wrong.

[@jamegumb7298]

@@Jess-wk5oh We know the difference but we still can be vicious, especially when young. My brother tried throwing the bed over me, and I beat his ass, he stabbed me with a knitting needle right through my arm and I put his head through the door. Later I put him through my others glass table, lucky for me the bigass shards never pierced his neck or a vital artery. In my defence, there was an incident with a bread knife. This was all before we I went to secondary school, that was at 11.

[@Jess-wk5oh]

Jame Gumb I know, but surely you knew what you did was wrong right? They say that one of the boys showed no remorse until he saw the other one crying and so he then started crying too

[@melany5814]

Lauren Watts I’m looking at this comment section, and y’all are scaredy-cats. Next thing you tell me is that you never stole from the book fair 🤠

[@kaydenlewis2185]

Imagine how the children who discovered his body feel, I hope they got some sort of counselling or therapy because they are the ones who need it not Thompson and Venables

[@notadam3985]

one is a drug dealer in jail rn

[@summermalott7110]

THANK YOU

[@Boopandfriends]

Not Adam how do you know

[@notadam3985]

@@Boopandfriends found it when I looked it up shouldn't be hard to find

[@netsk1679]

@@Boopandfriends it's true, well known in Liverpool.

[@olivia6496]

It’s so awful. One of the children who found James has had a really tough life since and has spent a lot of time in prison for various crimes (drug dealing etc). And he talks about how it all stems from the horror of finding that little boys body. He says it’s haunts him everyday. I couldn’t imagine how much turmoil he must be in.

[@singergirl8319]

the way that the body was when they found it, i understand *why* theyd have trauma from it..

[@anicika_6715]

Is a seek village then, without education

[@punxie89]

That's so incredibly sad. That would really affect anyone, let alone a small child coming across something like that. He didn't stand a chance. I really hope that he gets the therapy and help that he needs to truly heal from it (edit: just read the above comment about how 3/4 of the boys' lives turned out; my comment applies to them all)

[@ffsviki]

he commited suicide a few days ago

[@paulinesmith706]

@@ffsvikiwho did?

[@akirashiori6265]

The way you call him a baby is comforting. He is a victim, he's gone, but he was and is someone's baby

[@lynette50]

He was 2. He was a baby

[@x.katie_c.x8453]

He was a baby he was 2 nearly 3.

[@garethharding8035]

They even called him a baby the killers if you watch the new doc

[@merissamatos2017]

I mean... isn't a 2 year old a baby?

[@nightwingsluver5687]

@@garethharding8035 new doc? What’s it called??

[@chloebrooks4661]

My Uncle got 9 years in prison by defending a random woman from being beat up and those boys go 10 yrs for MURDERING a BABY! That’s a 1 yr difference! They might of been 10 but they murdered someone!

[@brxwneyedwxman_9564]

ChloeLee Xo that just shows how flawed the system is.

[@Jess-wk5oh]

Actually ridiculous. The justice system is an actual joke

[@maemcr07]

The boys only got 8 years ??

[@Jess-wk5oh]

Aimz_ 07 makes it worse really, doesn’t it ;/

[@maemcr07]

@@Jess-wk5oh yea but I watched the full video as I was only half way through and their sentence was extended by two years

[@missemily775]

When I was younger my mom made me hold the side of the grocery cart and never let go no matter what because she was so terrified by this case. It’s so so so disgusting and upsetting what happened to this little boy.

[@ameliamurray3364]

Same! I have 4 siblings and we all had our spots on the cart, I was in the front because I was the youngest. It got to the point where my dad had to take some time off work to watch me and my siblings because my mother was so paranoid! It went on like that until we were all at school, but it’s happening again because my parents recently adopted a 5-year-old, when I babysit I always make sure she’s in sight, it’s so scary. I’m appalled at what happened to him!

[@Alma-gy3ev]

When I was 3 my people had a monkey back with a rope so I don't get kidnapped if I get kids I will never let go of there hands because I'm so scared of this case

[@Alma-gy3ev]

My mom* sorry I said it wrong

[@MiraTheWarlock]

As one man said in an interview "They shouldn't have been coddled and protected like they were. Remember, a baby was tortured and slaughtered."

[@jorjamillington6332]

They where ten years old. As much as im against protecting killers ect, one thing you cannot argue with is their thinking. How horrible is it that ten year old boys did this? Why did they even know what to do? you know what i mean? but also, none of the children discussed had their rights protected in this case. Jamie: A Right to Life. The Killers: The right to be tried in an adolescent court, for crimes committed as adolescents. Ethically, screw the killers, they killed a 2 YEAR OLD, but legally, they have the same rights to a fair trial, in the correct court, as you and i do.

[@p1gst3p79]

Murdered, actually I think.

[@MiraTheWarlock]

@@p1gst3p79 Pretty much. He used those words to hammer home how gruesome the crime was, to really show he was against the sympathy others had for the two boys

[@hayley2505]

It sickens me that Jon keeps being given new identities when he breaks the rules. It clearly shows he's never been punished for his actions. He thinks he can do whatever he wants, spend a small amount of time in prison and then go back to life as usual. I read on Wikipedia they've even considered sending him to other countries because it's costing too much for his new identities. So glad the New Zealand Prime Minister said he shouldn't bother applying. When will they put him in prison for life?

[@serena5805]

Aidan Carmody the uk doesn’t have the death penalty, but I do agree that as he has been given many chances to reintegrate into normal life and has disregarded the law each time a life sentence should be enforced.

[@user-ut6pf1tl9e]

Which one was Jon? The one with a lot of sibling or the one with 2 siblings

[@ciararobertson6433]

•møønlight• I think he was the one with two siblings

[@user-ut6pf1tl9e]

Ciara Robertson ohh

[@netsk1679]

I think he's had enough time to sort himself out and now needs the key throwing away.

[@eli-oh3oq]

8 years? Drug dealers get more time. What the hell?!

[@countryboy3589]

Yeh drug dealers who are adults and entirely responsible for their own actions. The kids were punished and work was done to rehabilitate them and give them a better life to help normalise the warped mindset caused to them by the extreme neglect and abuse they suffered. They didn’t deserve any longer.

[@helloworld3943]

@@countryboy3589 you can't rehabilitate anything that does what they did. At least one is a pedophile. 10 year olds know what they are up to. You probably think just because they are white,they deserve a chance at rehabilitation. I bet you believe in rehabilitating child rapers too,huh?

[@gamingstation4854]

hello world child rapers and the mind set of two ten years are two different category’s to rehabilitate

[@ananna6523]

Yeah, I saw one thing of a drug dealer got 19 years of prison and a child rapist got 9. 😐😐

[@lynsey4224]

@@countryboy3589 fucking weirdo

[@missdaytonarae]

The fact that they were practically rewarded for this pisses me off so much. They had better lives for torturing and killing a child than they did before. When they were released they at least should have kept their identities and lived with what they did.

[@washedblue]

@Daisyxo no, that's where people are wrong. unfortunately, many don't feel that or are incapable. you're assuming they're neurologically and socially like you/others, but this case proves otherwise. maybe the one who was more of an accomplice, but I doubt it. when people ask "how can people like that sleep at night?" it's because they do not experience empathy or remorse. they do not have that reaction and so it's not a problem. it can be emulated for social interaction, but that response is not actually going on in their brain. and the fact that they were, as OP said, practically rewarded and safeguarded after committing such an awful crime would further allow for them to NOT harbor negative feelings towards their actions - in general and to a growing brain that could've been somewhat impacted by proper rehab and therapy if they weren't too far gone.

[@l.aw.t9727]

Robbert said he had a better up bringing in the unit than he ever did at home to the parol board its on google he was safeguarded his arse kissed both them a great life inside unlike before the killing both were rewarded not punished

[@ameliamurray3364]

I agree!

[@iknowthatprincess]

I disagree,personally,I think that since they were “rewarded”,they can be better people than be tortured like James,if they were tortured then it wouldn’t change them at all and makes them do it again.

[@lucillecawthra8018]

they were neglected 10 y/o’s.

[@kathy2447]

I cried reading all the details of how they tortured this baby. I don’t understand why they gave them a new life. The system is a joke. They should reveal their identities, everyone should know they are killers, they shouldn’t not have an opportunity to start a new life

[@charlottewilliams574]

I'm not sure if you're uk based or not, but every so often a photo is released in the press over here of one or both of them in their "new lives". They are disputed, but the likeness is uncanny. I'm not for vigilanties. There has already been, like Eleanor said, people being witch hunted. But I think people have a right to know if they're in their town. They didn't "just" take jamie. What they did, makes Venebles and Thompson devils.

[@samuelrowbotham6322]

@@charlottewilliams574 Vigilantism is the big issue for me, especially since vigilantes usually get the wrong man anyway.

[@NoCommonSense9]

@@charlottewilliams574 okay but there's no way to release their identities AND prevent vigilantism, you get that right? And from a legal perspective protecting the identities of adults who committed crimes as kids is important and should be upheld. I understand people's anger, but there is no way to a. Release their identities without risking vigilantism and b. Release their identities without undermining the ability of adults to move on from crimes committed in childhood. Things are complicated man

[@jasminchavez9060]

@@NoCommonSense9 i get that in the case of the other boy now man but venebles was found with so much cp including children being sodomized so for his case is it really crimes committed in childhood? or repeated behavior from one of them carrying on into adulthood and being protected by the country

[@sydneyjane9222]

@@charlottewilliams574 Vigilantism is rarely good, you're right on that (although sometimes, when they get the right people, it can be satisfying, in a twisted way). I would feel bad for someone getting attacked if they were just mistaken for being one of them. On the flip side, if I came across them, or one of them, and there was no doubt it is him, God forgive me for what goes down, because it will be a bloodbath. People need to be aware, and if some vigilante attacked me in a case of istaken identity, I think I could forgive them, as they were emotionally driven and I get that. So considering that scenario, I am for the revealing of their identities. Some criminals should get new ones, but they don't deserve that protection, they stooped too low.

[@kileyraine2653]

Imagine one of those boys getting married, "I tortured and murdered a baby when I was ten, you want kids? " It's disgusting. I don't care that they were ten, they had to know MURDER was wrong. A BABY. That poor baby.

[@marionjames4986]

Sakai Mefu one of them has and the mother of the child does not know

[@broganmoorhouse7158]

I think one of them is married and has settled down and may possibly have a child however the mother would be unaware as the two boys were given anoninimity so a whole new name and backstory etc... However, one of them I belileve no longer deserves his anoninimity as he has been caught and imprisoned a few times for posession of child pornography - but the courts won't allow it. I can't remember how old I first heard of the case but have since had to study it when I did Forensic Science in college and it never gets any easier. It changed how old you had to be to be tried as an adult in court, I believe. (not 100% sure if that's correct just going off of memory). But I do agree, ten is more than old enough to know right from wrong. At the age of 5 max, I knew what was right and what was wrong and knew that doing something wrong would have consequences.

[@marthacrowe6130]

They should go to prison for life no matter how old and the first part of your comment is so funny

[@fingmoron]

@@broganmoorhouse7158 Thompson is gay I think and has been in a relationship since the mid 2000s. He has never re-offended and made use of his time in prison to gain qualifications. Venables has since returned to prison due to illicit images of children and a manual on how to have sex with little girls.

[@aaronbarnes4761]

f I think Thompson’s husband also knows who he was before the identity change

[@r0ckymarie]

Having new identities is a PRIVILEGE. I can’t believe they got so many rights and passes that they shouldn’t have had. They got more in “jail” than they would have gotten at home with their families. Makes me absolutely sick.

[@reinhartaltavillaferrara3546]

@@jackwatson3944 so you are on the monsters ' side. Speaks tons about you

[@lazyspudz]

Down Town are you serious you sound like your defending those MONSTERS

[@lazyspudz]

Down Town ok here’s a question do you feel any remorse for the child who lost his life in a horrible way? or do you feel pity for the kids who found him and will be traumatized and be affected for the rest of there life’s from it? Or do you wish that the mother will recover from that horrible day? Or will you just continue to insult people who talk about what horrible human beings those children are and how they deserve more punishment?

[@lazyspudz]

Down Town I agree they deserve more punishment but you are attacking someone for “making a comment to get likes” when in no point did any of are comments ask for likes and it was just people talking on the internet. The fact in your mind you automatically assume people are begging for likes is sad. You decide that what makes you happy is starting fights on the internet instead of agreeing on how horrible this is and letting people share there thoughts on a disgusting homicide, and I guess it’s your option to share to anyone that sees this that you feel no remorse for any of the people involved in this

[@lazyspudz]

Down Town it shows all you care about as a person is likes on the internet a false form to make somebody feel good

[@macaylaralph]

These children literally TORTURED this little boy, he was crying the entire time on the way to the train tracks, up until he died, and they still tortured him anyway. It doesn't matter that they were 10 years old and had a rocky childhood, yes its incredibly sad bc this definitely impacted their way of thinking etc., but the fact remains that they brutally tortured this little baby to death. Most murderers and serial killers start out by killing animals as children, but these children not only killed an actual human being, they tortured him in the most cruel and horrific ways. Once a person/child/adult/human reaches that point of complete lack of empathy and just any sense of humanity, there is no point of return. They knew what they were doing, they chose to do it. They went on as normal afterwards as if nothing happened and with no real sign of remorse. Imagine what they could be capable of doing as adults. The one has literally been arrested for possession of child pornography TWICE. Like I'm sorry, they should have been given life in prison because they do not deserve to be free and have a chance at happiness while that little boy lost his life, his parents lost their baby and those kids must be scarred for life after stumbling onto the most gruesome scene of his mutilated body. So many people's lives were changed by this, but they were given a free 'holiday' which was probably much better than their home life before and now anonymity to live amongst people who have no idea what they are capable of. Definitely not right or fair.

[@alexkennedy1820]

I do not know how much more of this video I can watch, but most people reading this would do almost anything to avoid harming a child. I am the type of person if I see a child getting hurt in a movie, I will cry. I just cannot comprehend why two young boys would do this. It is beyond evil. Also, my heart goes out to the children who found James on the railway tracks.

[@hannahbee3815]

this is so true both of these boys should be in jail still

[@L1v1ngD3adGirI]

My sister is two years old and the thought of someone doing this to her actually just made me threw up and cry

[@alexkennedy1820]

@@L1v1ngD3adGirI The fact that those two monsters are still out there outrages me and they were treated so well in prison. I cannot imagine what his mother has been going through - God bless that woman. It made me cry too, Purple. I am crying just thinking about it.

[@aleisha8983]

@@L1v1ngD3adGirI I have a 4 year old brother and same... If someone done this to him I would not let them get away with such a short sentence. Imagine if it was an adult doing it, they would get likely life in prison (probably a chance of parole)

[@shybluesky2992]

I just wanted to list the specifics of Venables’ crimes after his release for James’ murder. “At the court hearing, it emerged that Venables had posed in online chat rooms as 35-year-old Dawn "Dawnie" Smith, a married woman from Liverpool who boasted about abusing her 8-year-old daughter, in the hope of obtaining further child sexual abuse material.” “The officer's suspicions were aroused, and the computer was taken away for examination leading to the discovery of the child sexual abuse material, which included children as young as two being raped by adults, and penetrative rape of seven- or eight-year-olds.” “On 7 February, Venables pleaded guilty to possession of indecent images of children for a second time. He pleaded guilty via video link to three charges of making indecent images of children, and one of possessing a "paedophile manual", that included advice for would-be child molesters, including instructions on child grooming and evading detection.” “He admitted being in possession of 392 category A, 148 category B, and 630 category C child pornography images, and was sentenced to three years and four months in prison. In September 2020, he was denied parole.” Why they keep protecting this vile creature who is clearly a danger to society is beyond me.

[@freyacantillion4393]

and they still sit there and say he's rehabilitated

[@TheKnoxvicious]

He needs to stay in prison for life just for the child porn

[@zordorfe]

Thompson is doing alright though, but Venables is just an absolute mess. Protecting him is just a waste of taxpayer money

[@alexisyorke2918]

I only have one question.... Why is there such a manual? I mean if something doesn't need a manual, it is this. No one needs to learn how to do that!!

[@triciaazzopardi1359]

​@@alexisyorke2918 It's really sickening.

[@clear_pastel3149]

The fact that these CHILDREN tried multiple times to kill a baby and failing TWICE you'd think they'd change their minds. But no. They still killed him and tortured him. Their sentence wasn't nearly enough.

[@HamelinSong]

I will never stop saying this. When children as young as 10 commit crimes it's OUR fault, not theirs.

[@idkimjustdarkfudgelol6896]

@@HamelinSong no their fault. More children have traumatic backstories than them but I don't see them killing children

[@JKL_1999]

Maybe their parents didn't raise right?

[@MsYolost]

@@HamelinSongThat doesn't change the fact that they are permanently broken individuals and should be kept away from society. But I agree on the point that there is definitely more that can be done to prevent things like this from happening in other cases

[@nthgth]

@@MsYolost since kids with crappier parents than these usually don't kill people, and kids with wonderful parents sometimes kill people anyway, my guess is these boys would have done cruel things regardless.

[@katiecakesl4691]

The justice system really failed here. Those boys needed a firm punishment. I am so disgusted.

[@heyimash125]

Katiecakes L the police were confused people had to be 12 to be arrested but they were 10 they treated them differently and were uncertain how people would react if they punished them to severely but i agree they should have punished them more

[@mybuffysummers]

It seems to me like the punishment of their every day lives leading up to the murder is what caused them to behave the way they did so I’m genuinely confused as to why people think even more punishment would do anything to reshape them into better people. They did something terribly unspeakable, yes, obviously, but that doesn’t mean they weren’t also victims themselves. I’d imagine that they felt they were being punished just for existing every single day of their lives and further punishment would do nothing but make them worse. I can understand why people think locking them away and tossing the key would be a solution for people who are fearful of potentially being effected by any future actions, but in my opinion everyone who is capable of rehabilitation should be given the opportunity for recovery. What I can’t understand is how people can be aware of how badly they had both suffered prior to this act, which was clearly a result of how deeply broken they were and as devastating as it is that James and his family has to suffer so much as a result, but ultimately that will never change the fact that both boys were severely neglected and had slipped through the cracks of society which left them in a position to inflict such harm in the first place. This is a situation where it’s clear why they may have thought what they did was reasonable up until the part they realized that it wasn’t and they thought they’d be in even more trouble if they didn’t dispose of the body, which is a result of their age and lack of awareness. They weren’t blatant monsters as can be easily suggested for many other cases; they were disturbed and prone to hostile situations based on their upbringing and all the violence they’ve witnessed and had inflicted upon them. I want to reiterate that none of this excuses what they did by any means, but I still believe it needs to be taken into account and I can’t help but suggest it’s possible that what they physically did to James is what those two boys were internally experiencing emotionally. The justice system definitely failed these boys, only it wasn’t any decisions after the murder and trial that facilitated the reason for this failure, instead it was the fact they were left in a situation that’s unfit and unsafe for a child, allowing them to experience such injustice in their daily lives, and culminated in the mental deterioration that provoked them to act out on their frustrations by taking that anger out on poor, innocent, sweet James. May he Rest In Peace. I hope those boys (men) are able to continue getting the appropriate help they so clearly need, otherwise, yes, there is always the likelihood that they could continue to pursue immoral choices as an outlet. The harsher they’re punished can never bring James back and change what happened, but it’s still an opportunity for them to have been removed from the destructive lives they were forced into as children and finally allow them a chance to grow up and do something positive with their lives. It may be too late to have helped them before they caused harm, but because the privilege of having a healthy childhood had been robbed from them so early in life at no fault of their own, it’s not too late to restore their right to an environment that allows them to grow into the best people they can be despite the circumstances, which maybe will someday bring more good to this world if they’re able to be a positive advocate for other children who are currently experiencing such conditions right now as I write this, and any other future children forced to try their best to thrive in similarly unjust circumstances.

[@mybuffysummers]

*Please ignore any grammatical mistakes and typos: I spent way too much time writing this and would rather not put further effort into going back and fixing them. I apologize for my laziness

[@maurasmith3545]

this case literally makes me physically ill. i have brothers that age and it just makes me sick. this poor poor boy.

[@thraitor7819]

@@mybuffysummers i have to agree with you, especially for Thompson. He would obviously become a sociopath.

[@kathleencook6939]

James would've been 30 years old this year (2020) rest in peace beautiful baby, you will never be forgotten ❤

[@gillianmurray8787]

This case certainly made all our parents keep a tighter hold of us.. So sad 💔

[@dominicchester0328]

Yes he would have been what pissed me off those boys were getting rewarded instead of real punishment!! Bastards who laughs in court room!!

[@phoebe_144]

@@dominicchester0328 same. Actually only just learned about this case and I can’t believe these kids who tortured and killed a baby are getting rewarded

[@phoebe_144]

@@hykeii2896 I get how you feel tbh who would go their with there children or even a kid after that happened

[@hykeii2896]

I JUST REALIZED THAT IM BEEN OVER THE RAILWAY WHERE HIS FUCKING BODY WAS FOUND

[@user-bf8lt8co3d]

As someone who has PTSD I would never wish this on anyone however, I hope their flashbacks and nightmares drive them fucking insane. Rest in paradise beautiful boy 🦋

[@KoboldPip]

Did you just say you wouldn't wish PTSD on anyone then immediately wish PTSD on someone?

[@artfulaud]

@@KoboldPip yeah because the boys are the exception.

[@madeleine4670]

@@KoboldPip because they were Murderers that weren’t correctly punished and not made to understand their crimes and were then practically coddled and rewarded for the heinous crimes they committed. That’s why dingus?

[@samanthaM7119]

@@KoboldPip some people deserve the worst wished upon them, up to those who’ve suffered whatever fate to wish it. In their mind those who’ve tortured a baby deserve the PTSD they created for themselves

[@imightloveurmom]

@@KoboldPip there’s a difference between PTSD created by someone and PTSD you inflict on yourself. They deserve is whereas the person who commented doesn’t

[@A5H_01]

James should be 30 now. He should be in the middle of his career, he could've even gotten married and had his own family by now. Jon Venable's identity should be known, he is a repeat offender with CP and indecent images. He is a monster and we should know his new name.

[@allyssa1523]

He could’ve have found the cure for cancer but that would never happen because 2 cruel boys wanted to have fun, sacrificing a boy who has a bright future ahead of him.

[@rubim.9201]

I dont get how 10 year olds can do such things. When I was ten I hit my brother with a shopping trolly and bought him a ice cream. I wouldn't even be able to kill anyone whilst I'm older. These kids have been doing incredibly bad things for years but they continue to get new identities. These children think they could do whatever they wanted because of the lack of proper punishment. If you just put someone in jail for a little while even if the crime is awful they will do it again. The poor kids who found the bodies need therapy because of the horror of seeing a child's dismembered body. James was such a good little boy and had such a bright future, unfortunately these boys took that all away. The poor mother who lost her baby must be heartbroken. Losing a baby must be one of the most terrible feelings ever. The poor kids who found the body now are grown up and have physiological issues after being traumatized by seeing a poor toddlers body that was split in two. The two kids had PTSD because of the body and coped with drugs and they have been in prison several times.

[@naom1ii1]

@@rubim.9201 it discusts me that they got only 8 years in prison, AND still got to change their names after they killed a little boy , whatever childhood they had does NOT influence killing a little boy. they deserved death penalty , i agree with you.

[@eifionphillips3004]

@@allyssa1523 There are cures for cancer, it's the biggest scam making people believe other wise.

[@allyssa1523]

@@eifionphillips3004 ooh this seems interesting

[@helenmanser9182]

I’m a Liverpudlian & I have seen his Mum several times around the City...she’s inspirational how she’s held herself and built her life back to something! 💕 R.I.P JAMES

[@morgandaniels6137]

Helen Manser I have so much respect for her being so strong. I’m ganna have to admit, if something happened to my baby boy I would flat out kill myself. I wouldn’t survive it

[@dicknuts]

If my child died I'd try to be strong because you don't want there memory to be a sad one like if one time you were playing ball now all you can think that it was your falt you'd think I didn't spend enough time with him even though it wasn't your falt

[@jenniferc243]

i live just across the river and we looked into this last year in re, she really is an inspirational woman 💕

[@grlsjustwannahavefunnnn]

Helen Manser nice lie 👌

[@gracechristina8869]

Ponygirl AJ fuckin shut up. I was born and bred in Bootle two minutes away from the shopping center he was took from I work there now and grew up going there. U haven’t got a clue Liverpool is a small city and I’ve seen Denise loads of times . Fucking shut up have some respect “ ponygirl “

[@theawaterson8776]

I think it's crazy they got new identities but the one innocent boy who was questioned and cleared had to move with his family on his own.

[@xyz-bl6ii]

Actually!!! And even though these boys were just 10 I believe they should have been sentenced for life imprisonment! Like so what if they are 10? They did kill a baby, they committed a crime, if can do so then they should also be punished accordingly

[@0rangeeige199]

@@xyz-bl6ii COMMIT ADULT CRIMES, FACE ADULT PUNISHMENT

[@charlotteatkinson722]

@@0rangeeige199 exactly!!!!!

[@jacqueline6124]

Fr

[@servicedogangelthunder135]

I agree. The innocent boy and his family should of gotten more protection and help from the police then the murderes who killed this sweet adorable baby.

[@Gooohey]

There’s absolutely no reason for Jon Venables to keep being given new identities. It’s quite obvious that he’s not going to change and is just going to keep reoffending every chance he gets. The people in the UK deserve to know where that monster is at all times to protect not only themselves but their children.

[@pepsicola6232]

I go to visit James' grave stone every time I go to see my cousins grave (theyre buried about 10 foot apart) i will never get over this case as it is so local to me. I still shop at The Strand and always think of him when I'm there. You can't help it. Heartbreaking

[@catherinehughes837]

What grave yard is it? Xx

[@astronomicallybased545]

@@catherinehughes837 I believe it’s the kirkdale cemetery

[@eilidhmuir3155]

I’m really sorry about your cousin

[@pepsicola6232]

@@astronomicallybased545 correct x

[@pepsicola6232]

Just wanted to say thankyou those who have given condolences to me over my cousin x I didn't expect a reply but it touched my heart. My cousin Michael died just as he turned 4 from neuroblastoma, but as he is buried so close to James, I've always left a kiss and a tear on little James grave.

[@mwahzhana]

I don't care if they are underage. They KNEW what they were doing while doing it. They need a firm punishment. 8 years is not enough. They should've never taken that baby from the store.😓

[@NikkieTwix]

Maddison Wade they knew it was wrong, that’s why they didn’t want the police to find out

[@melany5814]

Maddison Wade 10 is old enough that you should be taught right or wrong.

[@melany5814]

Maddison Wade 10 is old enough that you know right or wrong

[@yacovlevi]

It is irrelevant if they knew right from wrong. They where 10 years old.

[@ines-ij7jb]

Exactly. They had planned this before with a different boy and they're saying that 8 years is enough. Kmt.

[@blameitondanny]

The way Jon said "we never" is so monotone and creepy.

[@BrookeKatherine.]

Do you know the timestamp? This case is a lot for me to handle. I hate re-hearing about it.

[@chase4623]

I KNOW RIGHT

[@erhhhh27]

yeah it is

[@vinsueringamer2388]

Daniel Daniar he sounded so robotic, it was horrific

[@kathleen5798]

at the age of fourteen i found a dying mouse. i tried to help it and it died after i found it. i felt so bad, i cried, i held a funeral, i gave it a little gravestone. FOURTEEN YEARS OLD. THESE BOYS WERE TEN AND KNEW FULL WELL WHAT THEY WERE DOING TO JAMES. *RIP JAMES BULGER*

[@erinmccutcheon3751]

There was a mouse living in our new house and I insisted he'd be removed humanely. We named him Barry. Baz for short. We eventually trapped him and released him back into the wild.

[@limeadel303]

Isn't it scary though that the only thing that really caught them was CCTV? What if the cameras didn't catch them? These boys would still most likely be free men. It is scary to think that there might be a similar case where they murderers weren't caught.

[@issyxox8416]

Limeade L you know what’s scary, the fact that one of them could live on your street and you wouldn’t know :(

[@charlottehooper4575]

They are free men though

[@leigha1467]

8 years they spent their childhood there but they're in the prime of their life now they are free men probably married with kids doing more crimes its sick

[@crazyzombiebos7778]

Avaxx Msp I forgot which one but one of the murders was aided with £260,000

[@crazyzombiebos7778]

Avaxx Msp they’re rich now, with stocks and passive incomes probably traveling the world

[@aaronsmith1906]

8 years is nothing.... they should have spent a lifetime

[@Scarlett-rp8ud]

Megan Smith it depends on the age of the killers and because there so young they can’t be in for that long

[@DrHorribleishere12]

@@Scarlett-rp8ud Sure they can, if you murder anyone, especially a child, you can be in there for life. Look at Eric Smith, he killed a four year old. Yeah, he was a bit older than these two boys, but he still will never be released and that's how it's done in America. We don't play when it comes to child murderers, England wants to just hid and forgot this baby, try to fix people that don't deserve it. The parents of the murdered child should have been able to decide if these sickos got out. These poor are lucky they are from prissy little England, that treatment wouldn't slide in America and for good reason. Yeah, I do believe people should get the chance a rehabilitation, but not murderers, rapists, child molesters, or/and child murderers. These boys def didn't deserve new identities and if it is true about Robert having a wife or family, they are sickos and just as evil as him.

[@molly1111]

Mrs.Bubbles lal Megan Smith I agree they should’ve but life in the uk can mean up to 15 years then parole, given the fact that these people were seen as minors they would’ve never gotten life as such, if they had been adults as such they could’ve been tried for life but the max life that’s been given is 40 years with parole so either this poor little boy will never get justice

[@DrHorribleishere12]

@@molly1111 Thats why they need to have the death penalty and make life, actually mean life with no possibility of parole. That have that here in America. Y'all just need to start shipping people like these sickos over here, we will take care of them for you

[@Scarlett-rp8ud]

Mrs.bubbles Prissy little England is better then stupid fucking America

[@beanceline]

i cant imagine having so little empathy, not feeling any remorse for causing a young child so much pain. james probably cried for his mommy and they kept hurting him... this is disgusting.

[@LucyLioness100]

According to the boys, James did cry for his mom as he was being tortured. Just disgusting that this poor little boy was in such pain & these psychopaths just kept hitting him with bricks and then wanted a train to bisect James 😔

[@ickaal-yusof8819]

I can’t help but cry thinking about it. 😭

[@yippeeflowers]

children don't develop the ability to feel actual remorse until they're in their early teens.

[@TakenByStormEquestrian]

If it wasn’t against the law I would do the same but worse.

[@beanceline]

@@TakenByStormEquestrian why do you feel the need to make edgy comments about such a serious topic

[@elizabethgreer27]

This case literally makes me sick. The fact that these two evil CHILDREN were only made to serve 8 YEARS for this is mind blowing and so wrong. Then they were just given new identities and protection for life?!!! THEN jon venables reoffends MULTIPLE times after his release, even with charges of child pornography and drugs?!! Lock him up for life already. I hear robert has lived a quiet life and hasn’t reoffended but idc. They should have never been let out. This is heartbreaking. RIP James 😭

[@karimtemri1664]

They were 10. They shouldn't be trialed as adults

[@marlowstanfield6815]

@@karimtemri1664 It doesn't matter how old they were, look what they did? Do you think that baby cared how old they were? They torchoured that baby to death. If I was that baby's father I would have beheaded both of them, then the law could punish me..

[@revortexed448]

@@karimtemri1664 If they commit a crime this serious, yes, they should be. Children aren't always as oblivious, stupid and innocent as people think. They knew exactly what they were doing, just like an adult would.

[@karimtemri1664]

@@revortexed448 if you open this door then we must admit children can give consent because they know what they are doing. Do you know what I mean

[@EmeraldEsmerelda]

@@karimtemri1664 At ten years old you can somewhat grasp what’s right and wrong.

[@butterflyxx9883]

I researched the case more and I found that when the father of James found out that James left with 2 young boys, he said he felt a sense of relief and smiled and told his wife that James gonna be alright, he’s with two young kids - he’s gonna be alright. I am heart broken.

[@nikoleealy]

Ikr i bet he thought that he was helping him but no he died im so sorry for the family

[@micheleharris5634]

DAMN....I am heart broken too!

[@gab301]

bro if my kid KILLED a BABY i might have to practically disown them

[@aliyasarosh3670]

Same why would i have a 10 year old killer and torturer in my house,i would have to kick him out even if there 10 or whatever

[@theonemymumuses1490]

@Queen Volt sometimes it isn't the parents but it's the other children that they are influenced by, you really should watch ur children huh

[@theonemymumuses1490]

@@griselgriselda2901 you can't take care of them when they're getting bullied at school that's teachers responsibility

[@theonemymumuses1490]

I'm not even a parent lol I'm 13

[@diosol_]

Queen Volt this wasn’t the parents fault most likely. kids are most influenced by the people they are surrounded with in school. and bullying is a big problem that most kids won’t tell their parents about. also your friends affect you. so ya don’t blame the parents

[@scooter_rat3693]

How in the world did these kids only get 8 years? DRUG DEALERS GET MORE TIME THAN THEY DID

[@nadiathehuman635]

It’s disgusting. a broken system protecting little boys

[@mimi-xx3ik]

maybe because they were 10 years old with a horrific childhood? why does no one even try to put themselves in the boys shoes? as for the crime itself I don't think they were fully aware of what they were doing

[@mimi-xx3ik]

@Abby Thomas they were mentally ill ten year olds. if they grew up properly they would have never commited a crime, do you know how much influence parents have over their children's personalis and behaviour

[@nadiathehuman635]

Abby Thomas preach

[@realhtgrl]

diminie mental illness will NEVER excuse such a terrible crime. there is no justification for this. 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@Jack_Hyde]

Man, I read the exact details of the torture that Jon and Robert put James through before murdering him and, I have to say, I actually cried when I was reading it. I can’t even imagine the amount of pain and fear that that poor boy was going through. I struggled to get through it. It was horrible. It really was. 😢

[@Jim-so3zm]

I've never been able to bring myself to read it

[@Mama2CDHsurvivor]

When I read it years ago, I sobbed and wasn’t the same for weeks. I had dreams where I encountered the boys walking with James and I saved him, took him to the police and reunited him with his mom. Then wake up to find it was only a dream. I can’t imagine the mother’s pain and to know the killers were getting every advantage because of their crimes. It’s sick.

[@Dezer-RaeKelbel]

I just think about him probably crying out for his mom and that breaks my heart too

[@sistersarah2874]

In my opinion, they do NOT deserve anonymity

[@isabellebowen360]

Sister Sarah why not?

[@olivia4394]

Sister Sarah it’s disgusting. People should be able to avoid them. They can’t do that with new identities

[@laurenvcouto]

imagine getting involved somehow with one of these men and never knowing that they did something like this

[@sistersarah2874]

Olivia Roberts exactly

[@sistersarah2874]

Isabelle Bowen they murdered a little boy, the last thing they deserve is a new identity

[@user-tg7qp9fm6b]

When you said Jon said in his trial that James liked him, let him hold his hand, & carry him... how was that little amount of affection James showed towards Jon not enough for him to change his mind? :(

[@josslynw7664]

it’s honestly so sad

[@bethfletcher3583]

It’s heart breaking that the poor little boy was showing affection like that. the poor baby :( I held my sleeping 3 year olds hand watching this. Someone could have stopped them! This has hurt my heart. R.I.P James 💙

[@lolify4972]

They was most likely doing that so they could lure him out there cause he trusted them and then killed him ❤️ May u rest in price James

[@kenny_plays_fortnite1812]

Who said he was showing affection what if he was raping him while doing this im so confused he still helped dont feel bad he's a monster!

[@yippeeflowers]

@@kenny_plays_fortnite1812 you really didn't pay attention did you

[@katehollywood8576]

Would of being 23 R.I.P. Little man Rest in peace little james

[@casketkrusher393]

Kate Hollywood he would’ve been 29 in 2019

[@lexx.stormm]

Math is off he would’ve been 29 this year. I know this because he would be 5 years older than me

[@jessmachin9598]

*29 but ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@Jayden_gemini]

Kate Hollywood tip fly high angel 👼

[@kathleencook6939]

I have always been against the death penalty, but for these little scumbags I'd make an exception

[@fleaasmcgee1271]

Reading what they did to him absolutely enrages me. There’s no way that they didn’t understand. I wish they were locked up forever I absolutely hate them. I hope James is resting well and his loved ones are doing ok

[@popsingerstar]

tell me about it. they deserve 2 get their asses kicked just the way they kicked his :( my brother & i r twins & this happened the year b4 we were born :(

[@Az_The_Chosen_One]

T_T

[@Fun4u5678123]

Those boys should never see the light of day again

[@maevebutler5897]

It’s just me, Leena they should rot in jail forever

[@yoogabbygabba]

I understand what they did and stuff but i think thats to far and what they have done to James is AWFUL but no one should go through that no matter who they are you may hate me for saying all this but really my heart shattered after i heard about this about 10 months or 1 year ago.

[@Fun4u5678123]

Gabs Randoms I respect your opinion but I think if you kill someone out of spite you should be locked away for the rest of your life.

[@yoogabbygabba]

@@Fun4u5678123 Yes i completely agree with you when you said that i thought you meant for them to be sentenced to death. I apologize i completely agree with you 8 years wasn't enough.

[@Fun4u5678123]

Gabs Randoms I don’t believe the death sentence is useful because death is the easy way out. They should not be able to live their lives normally ever again and stay in prison and live with what they did. Also, some people are innocent and get the death sentence.

[@anklebiter.0o]

based off of the fact that venebles has reoffended multiple times I really believe he probably played a bigger role in the torture

[@DellaStreet123]

Venables seems to be beyond redemption for me. Child porn...yuck. And, like the coward he is, he tried to destroy the hard drive before the police got him. Committed atrocities and was too chicken to own up to his crimes. I'd have nothing but contempt for him even if he didn't murder James Burger back then.

[@xbooqie]

@@DellaStreet123 not to mention in the recording of his interrogation, he kept blaming Thompson even thought it seems very apparent that venebles manipulated him as venebles was the only one to REOFFEND, not once, BUT TWICE. Absolutely disgusting. A monster like that doesn’t deserve to be protected. That little boy did. Not venebles.

[@RaionOwO]

@Poika There were very likely sexual elements to the initial crime the two committed, so it's unlikely him having csem is just cos of 'the years that were robbed from him'. (And let's be honest, heir time locked up was hardly lacking...) But really, it's no excuse for not only being in possession of csem, but redistributing it as well... That's got nothing to do with any potential loss of sexual exploration. The dude is deeply fucked up and it's ridiculous he hasn't been locked up for good.

[@jeanmichellelaurent]

Venables molested bulger, I know the degenerate would have done it

[@UserName-br5zu]

@Poika what an odd thing to comment.

[@ht.2003]

the boys were treated better in “prison” then most people are in inpatient therapy. disgusting.

[@alannachmarie7440]

@other wise except it didnt because one of them has been found in posession of child pornography and was incarcerated in austrailia i believe

[@toma-yb4gz]

@other wise you are disgusting

[@julialol8166]

ik.

[@Kitkat.hvbbbb]

@other wise The baby had nothing to do with the abuse and parenting. You are defending the 2 ten year old boys over a baby that didn't even get to fully grow up.

[@daem8134]

Actually true. I was inpatient therapy, I got a shit education. I got handed an algebra book and paper and told figure it out not a damn tutor. I didn't have a computer or TV in my room. We had one TV between 20 other girls on the unit, and we got it once a week if that. The fully decorated room they got, I had a metal bed with a one inch padded mattress, a pillow that 100s had used before me, and a paper thin hospital blanket. We were allowed maybe 7 outfits. I've never physically hurt a single person in my life, let alone a child and seem to have had way less privileges then they had and opportunities to help me become a better, mentally healthy person.

[@user-ul3hu5wp9w]

Imagine being the children that found the young boy. That would be so traumatic. RIP James.

[@jeanmichellelaurent]

I hope those kids grew up okay, and lived decent lives

[@helenscott-tebb406]

@@jeanmichellelaurent Unfortunately they didn't, they had PTSD which was never treated and they fell into drugs to cope with it and have been in trouble pretty much most of their life.

[@mxntyffx1535]

one of the children who found him commited suicide a few months back and a lot of them fell intro drugs

[@flodelilly3506]

They're adults now. Their identities should be exposed, no need to protect them. RIP to that poor beautiful boy, can't imagine what he had to go through

[@miastrong151]

Exactly, if they do the crime, that is the only true way that they will ever pay for it. Giving a new identity only gives them a new chance to murder.

[@Olivia-tz8rl]

Yeah but at the same time if their identities were exposed people would harass them all the time which they deserve. But they would just get so angry and do stupid shit again. It would have just been best if they just got to prison

[@strangeodd1552]

@Ashlee Harvey are you sure? If they revealed their names that’d be illegal

[@Ben-vl5ew]

@@strangeodd1552 it’s illegal but that doesn’t stop people

[@LeightonStHale]

@@Olivia-tz8rl they still do like I believe one of them has been found with child pornography multiple times already and getting in trouble with the law

[@bridgetsheridan5784]

when jon venables saw Robert Thompson crying in court he immediately started crying. I swear that guy is a sociopath

[@fuccwit9098]

Bridget Sheridan at least he’s back in jail. He was found possessing indecent images of children.

[@rebekahsheppard4154]

Robert started crying when he saw Jon cry But there is definitely something wrong with them

[@natashaweasley3255]

Fucc Wit exactly why he should’ve done life, the while treating them with “normal” rooms with games and stuff in the unit they should’ve taken jail as it is, not as a fun place

[@lilyshannon2550]

They said crocadile tears which is one of the biggest signs of a phycopath or someone with aspd

[@scarlett5746]

Sociopaths follow others emotions as they don’t have their own

[@Kindlewwe]

Rest In Paradise James Bulger💗🙏

[@idkanymore9812]

Kindle. wwe 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@TheBlankInk]

Amen RIP little baby

[@gvbfam7528]

Sleep tight James 👼🏻

[@ashmcd3864]

Can I just say, I’ve followed this, as I was 10 at the time, and couldn’t believe someone my age could do this. I was obsessed with it. I still am. You covered it beautifully, a difficult story to tell. Well done. RIP James.

[@LadyArtemis69]

Imagine being an older sibling and finding out that your younger brother murdered a child. I can't even.

[@milliejejxoenw117]

if my younger sibling ever did anything even half as bad as this I would never look at them again

[@ari-qr3pi]

They wouldn't even be a brother to me anymore. I'd have to be kept far away from them for fear of someone else murdering another child.

[@PrincessPheonix06]

I wouldn't consider my brother as *my brother* any more I'd tell my mom to get him some therapy though, probobly wouldn't talk to him

[@crisscross5237]

For me it’s a switcheroo, my older brother was abusive (choking my little siblings (they were 3-6 years old at the time), kicking us, and slamming our heads onto walls (he even made dents)) He was, I think, 16. Maybe, I don’t remember. Ok so like, back on track here, it wouldn’t be a surprise if he killed a kid. I forgot to mention that he stopped ever since he was 19. I’m also going to be one of those comments that never replied back again so don’t expect me to respond, sorry

[@bobbyjoe6365]

I’d rather my brother kill an adult over than a little baby. I could forgive him for the adult. But never for murdering a baby, because they are helpless and can’t do much to defend themselves.

[@lolakae4166]

That mother must have felt like she’d been shot when she heard a baby’s body had been found after his disappearance. Poor souls :(

[@lizzy4827]

In her book she said that when she saw that it was kids who abducted the baby she had hope that he would be fine, I can't imagine how much pain she must have felt when they found him, it's such a heartbeaking story :(

[@adripurdy1998]

@@lizzy4827 in the video there’s a clip of the mom saying when she heard it was two kids that took him, she had hope like u said, and said she hoped that they just wanted a little brother of their own or something and were hiding him in a shed, “feeding him sweets” i’m literally crying ugh i wish the world was a better place

[@liquidsnakeliker]

hearing about how robert and jon got so many luxuries while being in prison is making me so angry

[@phurm9904]

Yes me too let's murder them

[@ronaldweasley4016]

val yes, for british people, it comes out of their money when they pay taxes. I’m british and i just hate this

[@rebeccathomson373]

The fact that I have the same last name of one of those boys makes me angry

[@aspenhunter9322]

But its the 🌈 kind ☺️ thing to do. Brought to you by bleeding heart liberals in the land where holding people responsible is offensive

[@phurm9904]

@@aspenhunter9322 nobody likes you

[@christylamacchia9818]

I literally looked at my toddler and imagined if I was in that poor mother's shoes and they spoiled my child's murderers like that and released them early! The boy that is currently still offending.....I honestly believe that he needs to be incarcerated for the rest of his life. My heart goes out to this poor mother and her little angel! I bawled my eyes out on this one!

[@sky3ms271]

Can we all just take a moment to pray for James bulger this is such a sad thing and we are all honestly so lucky to be here alive may he rest in peace amen

[@marielewis2803]

I agree with you R.i.P baby James's xx.

[@phurm9904]

Amen I am crying I actually almost am

[@codybarlik4524]

I think it’s a little late for prayer

[@riotsgang1554]

I ain’t prayin for no one but rip

[@randomuser8728]

Hopefully his next life is better, praying to gaia sending luck spells your way

[@Nicole-xe8pc]

The fact those little boys went to sleep that night knowing they had killed a little boy sickens me

[@wukap7435]

Well I am not trying to defend them or something but they did suffer from PTSD later.

[@errortryagainlater4240]

@@wukap7435 Venables has been arrested on CP-related charges numerous times since then so whatever amount of guilt he's feeling is *definitely* not enough.

[@leasagna2202]

@@wukap7435 thats their own fault

[@yippeeflowers]

@@wukap7435 how about you don't say anything to defend them? like a decent person?

[@lifewithmari9725]

It's even sad knowing the chilling details of his murder this sweet little boy suffered a gruesome death

[@willowtrump-torres4220]

Whenever he said “We never” I felt chills down my spine.

[@elizabethidk4041]

Me too 😬

[@Amy21650]

He’s CEO of saying We never or as it sounded we neva

[@roxymarks9636]

Amy Lynch stfu

[@egg_lover7725]

@@Amy21650 it's the accent and this isn't really a joking matter 😬

[@j0llyl257]

Willow Trump-Torres such a standard thing for people to say in Liverpool but in context 🥶

[@itzme4191]

They then took James to a railway line in Walton, where they started torturing him. They threw paint in his eyes, threw bricks at him, kicked him and put batteries in his mouth. James suffered 10 skull fractures after the boys dropped a 10kg iron bar on his head, and eventually died from his injuries. May he rest and peace😔 And the the boys suffer

[@sm509]

Tiktok sent me

[@singergirl8319]

not to mention the fact that he was left on a traintrack to be cut in half..

[@margueritemazzeo2904]

And left him on the train tracks to later be run over and his body cut in two..omg..😭😭😵😵

[@juliakaz146]

I have ptsd so I never thought I'd say this but... I hope those nightmares and flashbacks haunt them for the rest of their lives.

[@celestialudenberg5932]

Same

[@carolinegladwell7855]

They are not capable of having flashbacks/nightmares... They aren't human.

[@RedFoxSkull]

There’s no way they actually have PTSD, they’re liars. They probably just said that to get some kind of sympathy.

[@evarnls2662]

I often feel bad for a lot of people but I simply can not say I will ever feel any simpothy for these people who was so so horrible to that poor boy I just can't

[@yippeeflowers]

@@RedFoxSkull you do realize PROFESSIONALS would have had to diagnose them right? and you're literally just insulting the professionals that diagnosed them?

[@Emma_kl_]

Hearing the boys' voices during the questioning reminds me how YOUNG THEY ARE. They're kids I can not believe they were capable of doing this

[@abivarjasivakumar8005]

just the way they laughed for killing a baby in the court just made me what to punch them to hell even if they are ten. Rip james we wish u the best up above

[@thepanprincess4778]

Poor little man, didn't deserve that at all, whole life ahead of him 😭🖤🙏🏻🙏🏻💔

[@youreandyourarentthesamewo6939]

They deserve to go to hell!why are they being protected!?

[@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW]

I don’t care because I’m 12 so fuck they ugly asses

[@freyacantillion4393]

i remember being shown a photo of one of their "prison" cells in one of my classes in year 9. before the teacher told us what it was, we all said it looked like a kid's bedroom in disneyland or something, then we learned about the case and they told us that it was one of their cells.

[@rynnsie]

This case is the reason my mother taught me to scream and run if anyone I didn't know tried hold my hand or take me somewhere - as a child

[@blondie9422]

Very sensible, this case has disturbed me down to my very core.

[@misskrystyna5038]

I have explained that to my son as well. BUT, I think it is more implied that if an adult tries to take you to scream, and hold on tight to the largest item (chair, table) near you as possible. Before seeing this I could never imagine that children could harm a baby like that. My 2 year old sometimes played with the 9-10 year olds at the park, (while I was watching him) because they thought he was so cute. I feel as though most 4th-5th graders liked my son looking up to them and chasing them around because it was obvious he thought they were older and cool. This story breaks my heart in so many ways. It makes me wonder what was really going on at home in the houses of both the 10 year olds to even give them this idea. Perhaps they were getting severely abused and sexually assaulted as well. That’s not an excuse, but perhaps just reasoning. The poor 2 year old and his Mom/family. It breaks my heart!

[@SixtySecondYoga]

I wish we were all taught this

[@Aaron-kp6kp]

@@misskrystyna5038 You’re wrong. Veneable’s prison mate told interviewers that he jokes about the murder and has no sense of remorse. It’s not what happens with his family, it’s the monster himself

[@theuzumakis2624]

And also if they touch you, scratch them (and bite, if necessary) so you’ll get dna under your nails.

[@kailynrisher]

Are you kidding me??? They should've gotten life, I don't care if they're 10. They were capable of committing the crime, they should be able to serve the time.

[@AD-tu1qg]

Kailyn Risher you need to understand the age and upbringing of these boys they should have got longer but life no.

[@lovelissy5595]

@@AD-tu1qg life yes! If they are capable with taking a kid out of a mall, walking all that way and having that mentality to KILL and little baby! THEY DESERVE LIFE!

[@janetsides901]

I was raised in a family of 11kids. My dad was no polar. He beat the shit out of our mother and us kids. We were poor as hell. I can't explain the poverty. It was hell. Not one of us killed,molested,beat anyone. Your upbringing is no excuse to do harm,let alone beat a child to death. Then the Bastard get out and are into child pornography. Monsters evil monsters. If it was my kid they killed,I would hunt down the Bastard and kill them.

[@janetsides901]

Bipolar

[@ashstorm1766]

@@AD-tu1qg excuse me? A TEN YEAR OLD knows better. Theyre almost teens! THEY DESERVE LIFE FOR DESTROYING THAT LIL BOYS LIFE . who the hell makes excuses for a murderer no matter what age?

[@GenXfrom75]

So.. the UK paid for them to basically go to freaking CAMP after this absolutely BRUTAL murder?! I am sick. So sick to hear this.

[@reinhartaltavillaferrara3546]

Justice is a completely different matter than this

[@GenXfrom75]

@@reinhartaltavillaferrara3546 there was NO justice for that little one.

[@reinhartaltavillaferrara3546]

@@GenXfrom75 exactly. And it drives me insane and furious

[@AammaK]

The right thing would have been giving them the opportunity for safe upbringing and lots of therapy, ideally payed with depth they would be asked to pay when adults. Then as they've grown up and can actually understand serious punishment, they should have had to go to actual prison. A child can't understand punishment like that, and they shouldn't have to. They clearly had problems with their family, and some serious problems with their psyche. It's a clear lack of responsibility from the side of society to leave children capable of these kind of actions without help they need.

[@GenXfrom75]

@@AammaK Uh, yeah. But that's not a fucking excuse for this shit. Get real. Do you know HOW MANY kids suffer and don't go on to do this kind of shit? Yeah, there were SERIOUS problems in the families. Just like hundreds, thousands, of other families. It's not right, it's not fair, but they were by no means unique in their upbringing. So they KILL, TORTURE another human and then their government gives them a whole new life like it never happened.

[@louiselouise2686]

The age of criminal responsibility was lowered to 10 because of this case

[@scarlettstevenson219]

No, it was lowered to 10 in 1963 in England and Wales, this case happened in 1993, 30 years later

[@sillyman-pj9fj]

#RuinedItForEveryone

[@kellymunro4561]

Even with my morbid fascination of true crime this is still by far the worst case I have ever heard. Venables has gotten off with way too much and now he's appealing to be released for Xmas because he's "depressed!?" REALLY?! Even after repeatedly being caught with indecent images of children he's still being protected. Where's the justice in that

[@benevolentautore4463]

They should release him.............to me.

[@Em_Elizabeth]

He's become too spoiled.🙄

[@ninaelizabethdewitt]

Have you heard the story of baby p?. That's just such a heart braking story

[@LexiUnicorn]

i feel so bad for that poor baby's mother, i cried so much during this video, both angry and sad tears. The injustice of it all is shocking. They should never be given a new life, they should be made to face the shame of what they did.

[@aheilman6]

They should be given the death penalty....who cares that they were kids. If I was the baby's mother I would of came after those piece of shit kids.

[@jessiekaye492]

This.

[@amberjohnson3657]

I agree !!!! Xx

[@user-me6jl9ht2m]

Annie Banany what the hell is wrong with you? This case is horrifying, and I have all the sympathy for the mother, but they were ten years old and clearly disturbed. There should be no room for personal vendetta within our court system.

[@hannahkayla7039]

@@user-me6jl9ht2m They also took a THREE YEAR OLD BOYS LIFE. Because they took his, they shouldn't get theirs.

[@paigeanguish6216]

they killed a baby and got a better life than what they had before... i felt bad at the beginning after hearing about their upbringing but hearing they basically just threw this baby on a railroad... are u serious

[@kiwi0717]

My mum spoke to me about this due to I learned about it and it broke my heart what actually happened

[@angezprofile]

This was by far the hardest video like this I’ve ever watched I hate people hurting children but the way you spoke of him, the way you cared. This is my second video of yours and I have have to say I’m a big fan

[@damedeviant1388]

If any one of those people had just intervened or stayed with the boys. “Oh, he’s your brother? Where’s your house? I’ll make sure you get home ok.” The boys probably would’ve ran off. So sad. This is the kind of story that has me on high alert whenever I go out with my children.

[@damedeviant1388]

Remember that there cannot be an error if you intervene in good faith.

[@gabrielleparker179]

honestly, if I saw a crying, bleeding baby I would walk with those boys back home or call their mother

[@gabrielleparker179]

I dont care if they said they were brothers when you see a bleeding child you make sure they get home okay

[@angrybidoof847]

@@gabrielleparker179 Call an ambulance, never mind just getting them home

[@calleigh4287]

The lack of punishment in this case is appalling in comparison to horrible crime they committed. If they had committed that crime at such a young age I can only imagine what they would be capable of as adults. My heart goes out to this poor mother that had to live with knowing what happened to her poor baby 😔😡💔 James didn’t get to go shopping, to the park, to McDonalds, watch tv, etc. Yes, I get the goal of rehabilitation, but it sounds like their lives didn’t change nor did they suffer any major consequences for what they did!

[@calleigh4287]

Catty Clearcloud yea it’s def a tough situation I see the argument from both sides

[@dabbysuttons9721]

Calleigh Vincent I don't ,please explain how please .....(idiots)

[@jessiekaye492]

I didnt even have that growing up. It is disgusting.

[@lailahernandez1659]

Calleigh Vincent I totally agree , they didn’t suffer enough .i feel as if they had lots of luxuries than they would of had possibly at home

[@lucinacristobal9732]

Calleigh Vincent that’s so true one of my old friend she didn’t kill anyone but did a cocaine prank and she got 5 years of probation even when it was confirmed it wasn’t cocaine but baking powder

[@onaandelle7392]

If you take a life..... You have life in prison Or someone takes yours

[@teenvintagevlogs362]

I agree 100%

[@karmstrong6566]

they don't deserve just jail. they deserve to be locked in solitary confinement. it drives people insane, no touch, no talking to anyone, no contact. with nothing to do. nothing but to think of what horrific things they've done.

[@vhs_peep7384]

nah that's letting them off. like ngl, if you were to be killed you don't face what you did mentally. if i did that to Baby James, it would drive me insane to be locked up and have nothing but staring at a wall all day, until i died. that's what i think anyway because the guilt just sinks in but if you were killed by the government yeah, you don't eve face it properly because they let u off so much.

[@quinn9256]

@@karmstrong6566 They still wouldn't feel empathy, they are psychopaths. You can lock them up as long as you like, they'll never feel geniune human remorse-- they simply are not capable of such a thing.

[@quinn9256]

@@vhs_peep7384 Same thing I just said ^^ they don't feel empathy, doesn't matter what you do.

[@rtphotos4691]

I met a support worker who worked with Jon Venables. He couldn't tell me much because of legal reasons. All he said was "he won't ever be right." That was accurate because Venables was caught years later for possession of child abuse images.

[@elyssamccoy4642]

They took a life, & was given a entire new one. How is this possible

[@Nikoomilano]

Literally on point it’s so stupid and cruel that baby had his whole life in front of him and these kids get new ones after ending one? Pft

[@Coco_pink]

@@Nikoomilano literally once a murderer always a murderer

[@Nikoomilano]

@@Coco_pink 😢

[@kavya1459]

"If you are sensitive to violent deaths..." Yes I am * continues to watch *

[@jordyn2223]

Born 2 Pizza soo me

[@jordyn2223]

Lol

[@mazesmith796]

The "prison" was like a mansion compared to there homes before, they murdered a baby and got a massive upgrade and rewards for it.

[@astxrix1276]

3 meals a day, a warm bed, tv They don't deserve that >:( This makes me sick

[@eliz_scubavn]

Call me some do-gooder, but you don’t solve problems like crime by brutalizing and showing deep cruelty to offenders. Punishment has its place in the prison system but you can’t just make this the sole focus. There has to be some element of tackling the problems that led them to do the crime in the first place. Otherwise you’re just creating a loop of committing crime, prison and being released. As an overall trend, countries which focus on rehabilitation as well as punishment, and which have robust social and welfare programs in society to support the less fortunate, have better recidivism statistics and less overall chance of any offender returning to prison. 75% of prisoners in the US, which has a serious thing for pure punishment and even cruelty to prisoners, will return to prison, whilst Norway has a 20% recidivism rate and a far bigger emphasis on rehabilitating prisoners to re-enter society.

[@cdau5513]

@@eliz_scubavn people may hate me for this but I mostly agree with you on that

[@eliz_scubavn]

@@cdau5513 people have hated on me for this bu the actual evidence points to everything I’ve said being true.

[@adora2361]

@@eliz_scubavn YES! Uk and American prison systems are so flawed as they focus on retribution fir the crime without tackling the root of the problem. I completely agree

[@cultkitties]

my heart broke so much when you started talking about how james was tortured and beaten and how he was literally cut in half by a train, I’m usually not bothered by violent murder cases at all but cases with young children always hit me hard for some reason and this one just hit me so much harder because james looks so much like my younger brother whos only 3 and i cant imagine how i would feel if something like this happened to him. My heart goes out to james family, rest in peace poor angel :(

[@spillthetea6187]

“if you’ve got me baby just bring him back”☹️😪

[@clairewilliams1167]

Spill The tea I nearly cried when she said that those two boys were so sadistic

[@whatbuttbubblecrap8867]

It sucks that the bystanders never at least tried to heal the boys wounds or take him to a hospital or CALLED THE POLICE. Or STAYED WITH THEM. Like jesus this whole thing could've been prevented...so sad:(

[@itsmetheragequeen1238]

WhatButt Bubblecrap they were kids you would believe them in the situation I just know you would it’s heartbreaking yes but don’t blame the bystanders because they didn’t know and I bet they kicked themselves when they found out

[@crystalisedcandy2404]

I made research and the was no sexual intense because there was no evidence after the police checked the body .

[@SunBeeSmoked]

@@crystalisedcandy2404 actually, it was left rather inconclusive on if the assault was sexual. It was believed that they had shoved batteries in James mouth and in his anus though no batteries were found in the anus but even so James foreskin had been forcibly retracted and he was naked from the waist down. The boys denied it being sexual and due to the mental effects constantly bringing up the case in such a way could have on the boys they ultimately had to drop it to avoid damaging the boys mental states further. There wasn't enough evidence to say it was sexual but there was enough for it to be pretty inconclusive. I mean, why else would they have been messing around with a little boys penis while beating him to death?

[@chancejaxson551]

Ellie-rose Rainbowsheep I'd have called the police on them period. There is a bloody child with two older kids, even if I would be wrong, It's better safe than sorry

[@sophiea1665]

Crusty The Wanksock maybe to see if there was sexual intent behind the act? It is disgusting, what the boys did to James, and people want to try and understand how the boys could possibly do what they did.

[@Shay-vw6qq]

so many people who are poor or homeless dont even get the luxuries these booys got in PRISON, P R I S O N.... *FOR MURDER*

[@ksnndnfr6101]

They got spoiled... IN PRISON

[@reinhartaltavillaferrara3546]

@Madison Young what if it was your child, or you at two years of age

[@jamieterrill5460]

They were children..

[@samd5843]

I know , its unsurprising that so many re offend when they dont get disciplined enough

[@petronela2504]

(人*´∀｀)｡*ﾟ+ - they shall rot in hell

[@xxadunaxx]

I can't tell you how much i appreciate your work! And also you telling us what the case is about at the beggining, giving us trigger warnings etc. I don't use the stamps or anything, but speaking for people who do, i really really aprecciate it.

[@bkindspecqlaten8437]

Given a new identity... gives people no ability to be cautious of them. Why on earth would they even consider giving him a second new identity? That in my opinion is a sad miscarriage of justice. People who do horrible things should NOT be given new lives.

[@bkindspecqlaten8437]

@@boyishmistakes I totally agree. He has no right to privacy. As far as I'm concerned he gave up that right when he decided to hurt... abuse/murder someone. I have seen multiple cases where the perp is a repeat offender, Sister Sarah is right, they don't deserve anonymity.

[@yeetatthedisco7420]

Privacy is a basic human right. The majority of deserve a second chance, and in the chance you don't, everything needs to be considered very very carefully.

[@luciag4531]

@@yeetatthedisco7420 Living is also a basic human right but James Bulger didn't get that

[@Lilithly]

@@luciag4531 Yeah, but we aren't like those two kids are we? We know better.

[@Seysande]

Ummmm, you ever hear of civilian vigilance? If those boys had not been given a new identity they would be dead.

[@jesst2199]

This year would of been James 30th god bless him

[@kaitlandoneill5512]

I know right

[@tracysteele7652]

Poor little James he would have been the same age as my son

[@wadabid6165]

@@tracysteele7652 the fact that james could have been my little 2 years old brother keeps me up at night.

[@MaxMcNultyYouTube]

Poor sweet little baby I hope he rests in peace. And his poor mama. I hope she’s coping well.

[@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper]

@@tracysteele7652 what happened to your son???

[@jess11037]

The thing that really makes my skin crawl is that those kids definitely knew what they were doing no matter what anyone says. They knew exactly what they were doing

[@DellaStreet123]

They did. You cannot commit such horrible acts without realizing what you are doing. Children aren't innocent by default, they can be pretty nasty. They have less impulse control than adults and don't think as much about the long-term consequences. They apparently thought they'd get away with it once they'd put James on the railroad tracks, ignorant about what forensic science can do, and that, at age 10, they were old enough to be tried in court. If they hadn't been abolished in 1982, they would have ended up in one of those Borstal institutions. They worked a lot like adult prisons, with discipline, education programs and chores -- and bullying and blanket parties. Fellow detainees would have included boys and young men up to 21 years of age, in rare cases, even 22- and 23-year-olds could be confined to a Borstal. Thompson and Venables would have been worked over and over again once it became known what they had done.

[@jobreakstheinternet5100]

Exactly. This isn't a case of a kid thinking a real gun was a toy and accidentally shooting someone. This was far more violent than a lot of murders adults commit. They knew. They're monsters. I mean, I'm glad one hasn't offended again (that we know of), but that doesn't make any of this right. One of these days, mark my words, Venable's going to kill again. And it will largely be the UK justice system's fault.

[@thinkaboutit7483]

Exactly.And enjoying it too.

[@scarlett4417]

@@DellaStreet123 literally at 10 i knew what was wrong n right like what

[@graceaustin5158]

@Adarkershadeofrainbow probably the fact that venebals, i think, has reoffended with indecent images and videos of children?

[@aocroissier]

I'm speechless... Everything is so wrong in so many levels that I just can't say what I think about it. BTW, great job Eleanor!!!! Well done.

[@helenmanser9182]

Police didn’t even disclose every detail to his Mum...there’s an idea how evil they are!

[@elllamay]

@ yes, there are

[@elllamay]

@ yes she was!! I saw in a documentary it had footage of her in the shop paying and James walking in the mall holding hands with one of the boys

[@math672]

Helen Manser there not evil

[@mancmcr8172]

@ a documentary I watched yesterday showed CCTV of her coming out of the butcher's and looking for him while the boys where on a different floor with James.

[@inasiaimani]

because she told them she didn’t want to hear the details

[@kaitlynparker6146]

imagine their future wives. and then they have kids. they could easily kill their own children if they were capable of killing and torturing a baby. they were laughing in court. for killing a god damn baby. a innocent baby.

[@CreativeCookie94]

one of them apparently is in a relationship with a man and he knows about the murder.

[@lt-ug2pz]

I wouldn't be surprised if they got into a relationship hoping to have kids to hurt

[@stranger4174]

Laughing. In court. If someone did this to my baby sister I think I’d go over to them and strangle them both. Idc if I’d go to prison, but my GOD do they deserve it. THOSE BASTARDS. Id do anything for my baby sis, I love her to bits and never let her out my sight. I saved her from death once ❤️

[@lavenderblu2207]

Shivan Rajendiran well you’re not too eloquent yourself. So it seems like you can’t do either....

[@butterflyxx9883]

Lavender Blu LMAOOOOOJSKSJSKKS

[@okamiwolfee3029]

They don't deserve anonymity. Why should they?? They butchered a baby, 10 years old is old enough to know right from wrong, and it's old enough to premeditate an action, which they did. That's the bit I can't wrap my head around, it was premeditated. These two 10 year olds had planned to do this... What the hell pops into their heads to make them think of planning something like that? To be a Fly on the wall in their thoughts, I just can't imagine even thinking a thought that evil.

[@lilmane2210]

I agree

[@kaitlynkarol4600]

Why can't anyone understand that these kids were obviously abused as badly as they did this toddler - there is NO WAY these kids premeditated this on THEIR OWN w/out evil adult or adults to encourage them to think like this or to even threaten them or threaten to kill their families if they didn't go out there and do this. But we must protect the evil cults and 33rd degree Masons who rape and torture and kill kids all the time -not all of them - but MANY on the higher levels of 'the lodge' who indulge in this kind of SYSTEMIC evil. There's no way kids go around acting like this unless they are TAUGHT, PRESSURED INTO IT OR THREATENED. Why do people never draw this OBVIOUS conclusion and ask these VALID Q's....we're giving to much credit and blame to two 10 yr-olds who had to have been raped and abused like this for them to be doing this to a baby! Babies are often tortured by other kids in cults and pedo rings in neighborhoods by evil adults who teach them this wickedness. What has happened to our brains in this world that we never stop and consider this????

[@jasminemcdonagh4224]

I agree 100% but the circumstances in wich he had been brought up. Didn’t know

[@mrdojob]

They know right from wrong but probably not the gravity and severity. I mean how wrong does wrong get? It;s much harder for a 10 year old to understand compared to an adult. It's a thorny subject.

[@jasminemcdonagh4224]

mrdojob exactly!

[@Purepiscestarot]

This is why I stay to myself, you never know who is walking around with a sinister, well hidden past and there's MANY out there. This case made me feel sick.

[@atifzubairi6842]

I was literally crying through the part where she told us how they killed him , it's made my heart ache , rest in peace little baby , we love you and feel sorry we lost an angel like you :(

[@roryslaine7896]

It's genuinely is hard to fathom how anyone, let alone two 10 year olds could be capable of such brutality. Pretty sure Venables has been done on CP charges since being released too.

[@eiken6495]

“In November 2017, Venables was again sent to prison for breaching his licence by possessing child abuse images on his computer.” Once a sicko always a sicko

[@anabelleb9919]

Eiken amen

[@dadeshkelianii]

im pretty sure he was in possession of child pornography photos

[@stephy2598]

@Emily Barclay You have no sympathy. What he did was sick, but he was *a child* and was *abused in his household, helpless.* Now he has grown from that, he isn't abused and is responsible for his actions.

[@everythingmakesmecringe4348]

God... Please help these people

[@EmilyHernandez-jt4cs]

@@stephy2598 I mean he chose to kill the kid. They didn’t force him

[@katskil8161]

I have a 19 month old boy and he is the absolute light of my life and the most precious thing to me- with the exception of my 4 year old daughter. I remember reading of this case years ago and one of the most traumatizing aspects to the story was that there were witnesses that saw little james crying and falling over being pushed onwards by these animals. My heart especially shatters thinking of this now, knowing how innocent he was, knowing how his little legs would have tired and that he would have wanted the comfort of his mother and would have wondered where she was. They were animals and here in Australia pitbulls are euthanized for doing less than these disgusting humans. They should never have been let out of prison, they should have damn well died in there. R.I.P little man xxxx

[@chancejaxson551]

Katski L ik, not one person even called police to check them out

[@mollysministuff]

Calling them animals is an insult to all animals. They are just monsters that should have served more time.

[@mayamcnally6635]

I had 2 like your comment cause it was 99 and I just wanted u 2 have 100 likes

[@bigtiddysid373]

This is the reason why I don't want children. I don't want to have someone I love go through anything that could harm them. This just breaks my heart.

[@totallysashh4697]

One of them is back in prison for possession of indecent images of children

[@ElSeaSalt]

my teacher worked with both boys when they were in rehabilitation, she said the younger one was actually incredibly remorseful as he grew up and was a generally sweet kid. the older one on the other hand was the sort of person to send a chill down your spine, he was the one to later go and commit more crimes.

[@janeruby1795]

I know a shop lifter who got more time in prison then them

[@cow2912]

Our legal system is so messed up

[@totallynotarussianspy5336]

my brother got 8 years in prison, for drugs. He was only transporting the actual drug dealers to their buyers. Also I live in Liverpool. The murder took place in Bootle. I go college there. You often see children playing on the track lines. Its insane to think they found a body there. Let alone that the body was found by children.

[@yeah8438]

Seance S I also live in Liverpool and have been to the strand🥺

[@SobrietyandSolace]

Drug sentence are insane when much worse goes virtually unpunished; I'm sorry for your family....

[@totallynotarussianspy5336]

Little Wolf Taima my family are doing fine now. My brother (a ex military man) is now a farmer enjoying himself. He always had a passion for animals and such. The war on drugs was a lost cause before it even started

[@deakys_bass_tho8468]

If from the Wirral (born in Liverpool) and this is such a heartbreaking story

[@CzechMirco]

He deserves the sentence. The problem is not that his was too harsh sentence, the problem is that other sentences are too lenient.

[@MsAsh3070]

Can you imagine being that mother who's child was almost the one taken that day? You'd have to imagine she'd never take her eyes off her child ever again.

[@MsAsh3070]

@@Boilingfrogg ??? I said mother because it was the mother who was with the kid who was almost taken.

[@melissakay9880]

So true, right? Also, I read Denise Bulger's book "I let him go" and she talks about how she was with her other children, the ones who were born after James. She was hyper-vigilant, and very over-protective.You hear about 'helicopter parents' now, she was one back then by her own admission, but I can't say I blame her.

[@ophela3446]

I am really sorry for the mother of James I give my most humble condolences. Rest in pace James.

[@avocadotoast3087]

Can people STOP defending them. They’re 10 they KNOW killing someone is wrong. Their sick and twisted kids that deserve life in prison Edit:a word Edit: ya’ll getting pressed over me saying that killers should have longer sentences ANOTHER EDIT: SINCE YA’LL AEE TRIGGERED ABOUT ME SAYING LIFE THEN A LONGER SENTENCE THERE YOU HAPPY NOW?

[@aminakhan7949]

Avocado Toast I just rewatched this video after a few months and I just realized she said some people stopped them but weren’t fazed because the boys said they were taking him to his mom. How the fuck as a human being you trust two little boys to take a toddler who has blood all over him and I’m pretty sure looks like has been very hurt 👀👀 Even if I wouldn’t suspect the kids at first I still would want all three kids to be safe so I would of took all of them to the police station or hospital

[@lifegoeson1007]

Amina Khan same, it would have bothered me so much, I would of had to make sure the kid made it to the hospital, his parents could have just met us their

[@minutemovies2766]

They were kids and could be rehabilitated potentially. They deserved a chance to redeem themselves as adults and I think Thompson did that but not the other one he's clearly not. But I completely don't agree with the luxury they had in "prison" is laughable and disgusting. But at ten years old you have to look at it more critically and thinking about do they really deserve life in prison, no they deserve some substantial amount to be rehabilitated to when there legally adults to then have the chance to become new people.

[@avocadotoast3087]

Minute Movies no they took a life therefore they don’t deserve their own life

[@minutemovies2766]

@AvocadoToast the court system would have a higher body count of children than them, how does that make any sense to you? More killing doesn't solve anything. They needed a harsh punishment but the ten year olds didn't need to pay with their lives as they were evidentally mentally ill.

[@floofy8113]

When I was 10 I stood on a snail named steve and held a funeral for him and cried for half an hour... How could the do something this -bad- horrific?

[@Nikoomilano]

When I was 10 I played with my barbies

[@jackmarshall3255]

There was this time when I was 6,7 around that age so there was an alley cat I would always play with it I notice the next door played with him I went to the back yard a couple of months later and found him dead in the yard never knew how he died they had a funeral for the cat they where sing it was so stupid they where acting out what he was doing in heaven rolling around we had to sit on rocks the only reason I went was I felt bad nobody was coming to this cat funeral always found them weird but I feel that.

[@_.-._.-.]

Undiagnosed mental illness, neglect, and abuse can do that to a child.

[@purplelove3666]

@@_.-._.-. thats no excuse

[@kingtal99]

@@purplelove3666 He’s not excusing it.

[@girlwhispers]

those kids murdered a baby. i can't even yell at my brother without feeling like a crappy older sibling.

[@lenagrace3949]

I know, I want to go hug my little sister but she’s sleeping

[@madhero4128]

Same. Dude. Same.

[@ravengatos7844]

I was well aware of this story before, but you included so many details I wasn't aware of, like the boys' home lives. I almost feel like I need to watch much of the beginning again just to keep straight which boy was which. Excellent job, Eleanor.