The Transformers Iceberg Explained

[@shadowman716]

In the words of Ratchet at the end of Dark of the Moon: this is based!

[@betterlatethannever2156]

@Rohan Kamdyn Faker than Tf6

[@jagerzaku9160]

Based

[@ExtremeWreck]

For some reason I thought this comment was referring to a quote from a Ratchet And Clank game.

[@johnilarde8440]

BasedFormers!

[@jacobbreitha2693]

@@johnilarde8440 basedobots and incelocons, in a war for stacies on cybertron

[@quakywacky8048]

Can we just talk about how much more badass Jazz is in the 2007 game vs the movie. My man beat both Starscream and bonecrusher and goes toe to toe with Brawl all by himself.

[@KarlaDayelin]

Jazz is the cooler autobot to ever exist and the man doesn't get enough recognition

[@Shadowangel615]

@@SuperMcSteel technically he did go against Brawl because in The Fall of Cybertron he fought Bruticus but then again he had Jetfire’s help in knocking him off the Ark, but for the most part he took him on 1 on 1

[@uncle_Samssubjects]

Snake jazz is the best, and it's starting to get alot of attention from female high-school students...

[@cynthiasoolihua2410]

and in the DS version Jazz beats Blackout, infiltrates Sector 7, and fights the Allspark's drones

[@GuyAfro3000]

1:05:30

[@Wenomechainsama]

1:08:44 everybody gangsta till tpose Soundwave breaks in and harasses Bumblebee

[@zalabit927]

Insignificant, PU$$Y Bumblebeeee~

[@Theorymus]

The time has come

[@Pigpen_YT]

New Trans Theory: Did Archibald Witwicky discover Megatron in the Transformers Iceberg?

[@swingingelephant3415]

i cant tell if its "Decepticons Attack" or "Execute Order 66"

[@spidertails9797]

Yo

[@metallicsnake.]

And so as I

[@comandorostidela5018]

Execute order 66

[@rayvenkman2087]

Just to note: Most of the episodes we were getting for Animated S4 are only ideas that the writers had on the board and subject to changes during Animated’s run. What we know of S4 now could have been different had S4 actually been made in 2009-2010.

[@chey6073]

Yeah hopefully. The idea of Ironhide being part of the Season 4 crew is so strange

[@ripleyandweeds1288]

Honestly if season 4 got made the only thing I hoped would be changed would be Ironhide replacing Bulkhead, as replacing a beloved main character just to tie in with the stupid bayverse movies would have been a real boneheaded move.

[@BoardwalkBullies]

Being that the show was based on how well the individual action figures were selling first and foremost, I can understand how attention to detail wasn't a huge priority.

[@astrowolvez]

How awesome it would have been for animated to introduce kids to shattered glass.

[@josiaharaki7310]

A holy grail war where Shirou summons bloody Optimus prime is the type of crack fic I need.

[@Pigpen_YT]

I just want a Fate anime in the same setting at Stay Night but instead of servants it's just autobots and decepticons and instead of the holy grail it's the matrix

[@starboy35tcoos]

If FGO ever did crossovers, I could see an event where the autobots and Decepticons ended up in a lostbelt and we had to help stop the Decepticons.

[@anthonychessar7179]

I can think of a few ideas: -Instead of summoning servants, it's transformers instead(bit of an easy idea but could work since it would be character vs character instead of team vs team, unless they make it Apocrypha style.) -Some of the servants are turned into transformers by the allspark to combat the decepticons(perhaps a bit cursed if thinked about long enough but not entirely a bad idea. Though, I think servants can stand up to transformers pretty fine.)

[@anthonychessar7179]

@@Pigpen_YT Speaking of Fate. Perhaps that could be an idea for an iceberg video. There's no such thing as to my knowledge and I'm sure it would be interesting since there's a TON of either obscure or Japan only.(a good chunk of it would probably just be about the sheer amount and variety of merchandise and entertainment.)

[@moviedudexd5579]

@@anthonychessar7179 Charles Babbage meeting Optimus Prime would be awesome

[@R0-83-RT]

10:00 The 13 Primes predate the aligned continuity, the idea has existed as far back as 2004 where they were mentioned in the ultimate guide, as well as being mentioned throughout fun publication's comic runs. However, The Aligned continuity was the first time we had a full confirmed roster for every member of the 13 primes.

[@cavalierliberty6838]

The first I knew of the 13 was of vector prime. Cybertron/Galaxy force.

[@ironrex6979]

It was originally seven but it was changed to 13. Aligned really messed it up and forced them in without properly introducing nor building them up. They also removed Logos Prime. It’s a neat concept but the execution was terrible.

[@R0-83-RT]

@@ironrex6979 The 7 Primes was a Bayverse decision, the Thirteen Prime predate that being mentioned in 2004's Transformers The Ultimate Guide and latter being expanded upon in the Fun pub comics in 2005, both of which predate any mention of 7 Primes as far as I am aware. However while the number was always 13 not all primes were known.

[@ironrex6979]

@@R0-83-RT I think you are right. It’s been so long I think I am miss remembering it.

[@R0-83-RT]

@@ironrex6979 No problem, though you are right about Logos Prime. Some theorize that Logos Prime & Amalgamous Prime are one in the same, or that Logos is a version of Amalgamous Prime due to both having the ability to take on seemingly any form they want. Though their stories don't exactly align with each other.

[@kstanni87]

Animated Season 4 Megatron helmet is inspired by Hannibal. Both badass and disturbing head design for someone who broke was breaking out of jail with the aid from The Animated Stunticons

[@cavalierliberty6838]

I love how they essentially made motormaster the leader but wildrider was really the Mastermind. That was a nice touch.

[@endman105]

That last part with planet x being Unicron could be used for very interesting stories. It would explain why most alien lifeforms come to earth, because their planet was devoured, he is on a path to eat their world and are just evacuating to earth, or a neat way to just have him explained in the universe rather than some machine with God powers like his origin in the g1 cartoon or being the earth itself.

[@koxiq.]

hear me out: transformers analog horror

[@cumbrap]

I feel like i'm about to realize that I don't know shit about transformers

[@Pigpen_YT]

I think it's more like I know too much about Transformers

[@cumbrap]

Don't be too sure, when society collapses the fight for dominance will surely be decided by who can recite the most Transformers lore

[@Kaidon0]

i feel like i dont know enough

[@kellythompson5060]

@@Pigpen_YT same here

[@MxCheefah]

@@cumbrap you’re that femboy goat guy I used to watch about SJWs.

[@jinxtheunluckypony]

I’m surprised you didn’t mention that the animation errors in G1 are cannon.

[@raccoonman5341]

Yo what

[@atsundiunstrun9199]

explain this boyo

[@yellowvegtables454]

So the weird all blue optimus is canon?

[@gshr5891]

I remember If I recall correctly Vector Prime said that the animation errors were rifts in space time and reality or something like that

[@usedtissuepaper42]

he did kinda mention it when talking about Hauler

[@GhostRider-870]

As a G1 fan I appreciate this. It's almost like Transformers has its own language/culture to where it's quite possible to be left in the dark on alot of things. I stopped collecting in '87 and picked it back up 30 yrs later so I'm a little behind.

[@Filhote_deDisgrassa]

those ad transitions are perfect

[@Pigpen_YT]

I’m so happy they turned out great

[@bassmantjox1299]

@@Pigpen_YT I love those ads

[@SebMegronski]

I need a whopper, no cheese, no onions, extra pickles

[@DiamondBolt]

will relist the crossovers video just for you :) Also well done, I'm super impressed at the amount of work you put into this! (Also, I don’t know what I was doing with Billy either)

[@Pigpen_YT]

You got no idea how much that means to me . I deadass thought this video would get like 10 views max, let alone 13k, let alone you lmao. Thank you for your TF content back in the day, it helped get me back into the franchise. Keep on being a king Espilon Prime.

[@HenryLouis21]

Hey Diamond Bolt, whatever happened to the Transformers Characters summed up in one quote 3, 4, and, 5? Because I really liked those videos and would like to see them again.

[@Firelord91021]

I didn't think diamondbolt would ever comment on this video, wow was a wrong.

[@hirathemedicbird523]

Diamont bolt,as a long time fan of your channel ,all I ask if for RF :Energon back!

[@DESTRAKON]

Bro you need to do talk about Superlink one of these days, all the characters are cooler, the atmosphere gets intense and I'm only on episode 11 and Starscream just disintegrated Galvatron with his gun/blade thing and the latter regenerated his entire body like nothing, dudes like Aizen but he fights like Sigma this shows insane, like the vibes *completely* different I can't believe no one (aside from Protoman) talks about this

[@juantroisi6276]

The one thing I loved about the Combiners Wars show was seeing Optimus Prime wield Megatron in gun form

[@logicplague]

He did once in G1 as well, can't remember the episode.

[@BasedZamas]

@@logicplague i think it was season 2 ep 13

[@spidey8761]

@@logicplague twice actually

[@krazyfan1489]

Animated had a good use of Kibble, with that one Bulkhead scene

[@chheinrich8486]

You mean the pne where he used it as a seat 🤣

[@Banjoisawesome]

Imagine if Optimus learned Megatron was a brony. Optimus: You won't win Megatron, I learned your weakness! *Holds up Rainbow Dash doll* Megatron: No! Curse you Prime!

[@crackerjack0349]

His favorite would be Princess Luna

[@chrismanaloe3507]

Thats fuckin lame. Youre cringe af for this post

[@jacobbreitha2693]

@@chrismanaloe3507 are you mad???🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

[@chrismanaloe3507]

@@jacobbreitha2693 im uncomfortable

[@megaz-rex1911]

@@chrismanaloe3507 same

[@rayvenkman2087]

Iceberg Speculation: G1 Inferno’s scenes were cut from the 1986 Movie close to it’s release and they didn’t remove his voice actor’s credit.

[@fierygamer0510]

Holy shit man, thanks for doing a iceberg video on this and cod. Didn't realize you were the one who made the cod one. Optimus going to burger king to get a whopper with no cheese no onions and extra pickles.

[@Pigpen_YT]

no problem king. Optimus Prime may get that at BK but at McDonalds he always get Big Smoke's order

[@paradoxfactor]

One note, Death's Head was actually printed in a one page Marvel UK story prior to him appearing in Transformers UK. This let Marvel keep ownership on him instead of having him belong to Hasbro. This is the same way the US comics put Circuit Breaker in the ir Secret Wars II comic prior to her appearing in the US Marvel Transformers run. Another fun note, Death's Head also crossed over with Doctor Who, which is where he was shrunk down from Transformer sized to human size. Not the only Doctor Who connection with Transformers. The UK series had a character Decepticon with a Dalek alt mode named Octus, though it's more implied then shown

[@shinigamigroot8825]

Ah a fellow deaths head fan I actually own quite a few issues of him including the one where he meets the doctor I also own transformers issue 3 which is the one with spiderman in

[@wyattcastle7225]

I’m surprised none of the localization choices Japan made with the Western Transformers series were in this iceberg. I mean, who can forget gay Tigertron and yandere Airachnid?

[@notgray88]

Oh I DEFINITELY didn't forget yandere Airachnid 😍

[@cavalierliberty6838]

@@notgray88 *bonk* Back in your cell

[@mechanwhal6590]

Or whatever they did with Nightscream.

[@sharpwavethedecepticon6837]

Ah yes, Arachnid is one of those that would kill you either way. . .

[@kizamiiiiiiii]

Yandere Airachnid... are you talking about in Prime's Japanese dub? Is she a yandere for Jack?

[@jaxking904]

As much as I remember being introduced to Transformers through the Michael Bay flick and even my father’s navy ship was in the sequel but I think sending death threats to Bay for it was just petty.

[@Getloose360]

Agreed. That just didn't make sense. I get it, Bay formers may not be everyone's bag, but that doesn't give anyone the right to go to that extreme..its foolish. The great thing about this Franchise is that it has something for everyone, depending on when/where you got in; Animation vs comics vs movies. Geewhunner who enjoys BWs, Prime, Cyberverse, Animated and Energon. Its all guud.

[@NurseAmamiya]

@@Getloose360 those 40 year old geewunners be like

[@LordMegatron-qk2gz]

geewunners can't accept change, and they've been getting away with it as of recently with kingdom and legacy

[@KeyanCarlileTF]

Damn, you beat me to it. I'll cross that off the to-do list. I appreciate the TFA footage playing in the background, it makes my heart happy.

[@darkfire400]

That last bit about the Plant X conspiracy is actually pretty good and could be kind of interesting in a plot line.

[@endernightthedrokain1770]

Yeah, I got chills at the last line.

[@joaquinbarnes4857]

This is definitely one of the best and most in depth iceberg videos out there. Def up there with the Everywhere at the End of Time Iceberg and Toastee's icebergs. Good job!

[@nightblockprimecraft9284]

Wait, quality video. This guy is criminally underrated

[@NotFenriz]

the use of FoC music and the long AF iceberg already deserves a sub, amazing dude

[@CrookerComic]

the way you paused and went ".......Hauler?" at 1:30:19 absolutely fucking killed me

[@lsswappedgundam]

I didn't know shit about Transformers before watching this, but at least now I know that Transformers Legends exists

[@goldenrodprime226]

Finally someone else who likes the WFC Trilogy

[@DishonoredSkull]

First music I hear is FOC menu music? That alone deserves a sub, nostalgia at its best

[@neonkenomi320]

Godspeed to you for making this. I'm surprised you didn't talk much about the Japanese games.

[@Pigpen_YT]

thanks for watching. Hope you enjoyed! There was going to actually be a real fifth tier (not counting the dumb sector seven thing at the end lol) and that'd probably have that there along with Transformers: Go! and some other stuff...but the video was already an hour and forty at that point lmao

[@TRNMEUP]

Bruh I wanna know why in the fuck they did not make Megatron a dragon...like that would’ve been fucking insane and badass tribute to RID. Like cmon

[@Pigpen_YT]

just one of the many things I wish they did with The Last Knight :(

[@Zekethegeek708]

Ik I wanted to be a dragon

[@donkeykong6426]

they probably thought the jet mode that was shown felt easier 30:18 how would people not survive Mountain Dew infected water??

[@ironrex6979]

Yeah that dragon form would of been amazing. Great reference to BWT2 Megatron and RID 01.

[@javelin_if]

14:31 to quote what the transformers comic illustrator Casey Coller responded with: “Which ever one was closest to the screen”

[@justsomeguywithprimusapoth5927]

“Transformers is a kids franchise” *laughs in last stand of the wreckers*

[@glory2cybertron]

It’s something that took a life of its own, became fully autonomous, self-aware and conscious all while Hasbro is trying to keep it regulated and tame. The original story was born out of the 70s oil crisis and the Cold War, and especially IDW’s take is basically Judge Dredd but with everyone being robots. Transhumanist dystopia.

[@shotgun3628]

I nearly shat myself when the lightbringer appeared. You can't just drop that on a man

[@kinboshi134]

THANK YOU for understanding that the bottom tiers of iceberg memes are meant to be shitposts. Most other content creators somehow fail to realize that so it’s great to see someone poke fun at the shitpost entries :)) Great vid!!!

[@Jade-dr8gi]

that last bit actually creeped me out, mostly because of the creepy voice over, the ominous implications of the entry's and the last one made me think about a timeline where unicron did exist.

[@koxiq.]

how about making a tf analog horror

[@Jade-dr8gi]

@@koxiq. that would be a good idea

[@StealthBeeKid]

58:42 fun facts about estrela Transformers: those minicars where the only Transformers toys released here in Brazil, because of importation politics we couldnt get the authentics like Optimus, jazz and sideswipe, the closest was the Volks yellow beetle that was basically Bumblebee and the white camaro that is basically Tailgate, in fact tailgate was the most popular minicar Around here

[@rayvenkman2087]

What melts the Transformers Iceberg? Protoman and Chris McFreely.

[@adamofblastworks1517]

Protoman? The band, or character? Is there a Megaman/Transformers crossover?

[@adamofblastworks1517]

@Baseeruddin Syed yeah that'd be sweet... maybe... or it could just be a cash grab.

[@salhyy9962]

Fun fact : you can watch G1 on the 1st live action transformers games , they're unlockable by either collecting all logos or winning in all the challenges in the maps

[@LunaLinkle]

Late response, but I wanted to mention Nezha isn’t from a specific show, he’s a Chinese mythological figure who’s appeared in a ton of media for thousands of years Recently he has a big role in Lego Monkie Kid

[@proxius3]

The laser beak and smoke screen armada figures were my favorite growing up. Hearing they were shelfwarmers hurts.

[@DerRitter7]

I think this video is what the Underbase showed Starscream when he absorbed its power.

[@oshkeet]

1:06:31 the movie would've come out within like two years of PG13 existing at all as a rating, so I'm not surprised if individual studios were still wobbling in the old PG-or-R mindset of rating stuff, especially since it wouldnt be as harsh as the modern R rating, so to speak.

[@gradeapropain4750]

I love how the more you go on the more snarky and sarcastic your voice gets while explaining the more obscure things😂

[@yeez13]

This Iceberg DESPERATELY NEEDS A REMASTER! I can’t hear half of it without waking up everyone in the house at 1am with the jumps in volume lol Great so far though!

[@Spnxer4712]

Love how you talked about the Japanese shows and other content creators , just wished you talked more about Botcon and the Transformers Collectors Club 👍🏻

[@tiffany-chan1235]

Yeah Especially that crazy Beast wars dub

[@Mtfbay17]

I'll have you know that the DS version of war for cybertron was awesome, had a lot of different characters and was just really fun.

[@approachingneptune-experim6757]

That "shelfwarmer" mudflap at 1:15:31 actually looks really good, never seen it

[@CheemsofRegret]

40:40 as I understand it, the game devs only got the rough outline of the game's plot as well as the characters appearing in it. This is fairly common for tie in games. For example, the devs of the 007 Quantum of Solace game decided to throw in most of Casino Royale's plot as flashback levels due to how little they actually knew about the movie's story save for a few key plot points.

[@Wenomechainsama]

17:41 i think you're mistaken, yes, that's Sunstorm, but the one behind them is Nacelle and next to Sunstorm is Hotlink, and the Rainmakers were featured in another episode

[@Pigpen_YT]

yeah I goofed that one. I knew that but for some dumb reason said the wrong names

[@Wenomechainsama]

@@Pigpen_YT all good man i mean, it barely matters now there's like, 20+ seekers so of course names can be mixed up etc, and the fact that hasbro made new seekers lately makes this mess even bigger

[@TheSuperCasual2914]

Optimus was probably the first robot to return to monke. Also, the 53 dislikes are the guys that think trukk > monke

[@lewisaino]

Truck can run you over while monkee become sopa

[@forgedtofight]

How about trukk & munky 😳

[@TheSuperCasual2914]

@@lewisaino true, you can't make truck soup.

[@TheSuperCasual2914]

@@forgedtofight Yes.

[@piglinplayz8391]

trukk = monke

[@kR-qj7rw]

1:34:06 MEGATRON TRAIN MEGATRON TRAIN god it looks amazing

[@SharkZora]

I’m not sure if there was confirmation that that train is megatron. I would assume it’s astrotrain

[@kR-qj7rw]

@@SharkZora it had Megatron face and arms It's probably just a random vehicle inspired by his tech but point stands Megatron TRAIN

[@SharkZora]

@@kR-qj7rw ALL HAIL MEGATRAIN

[@CairnWD]

I just love how I don't know half of these and yet I still know about things on the second lowest tier

[@DBurnzy]

The fact you even mentioned autobutts don’t lie made me die LMAO

[@randroid1019]

I'm glad to see that somebody else is aware of that, got to give credit where credit is due to the artists.

[@ailma0400]

1:04:00 I love that this statement aged poorly the DJD absolutely deserve mainline plastic representation Great video btw!! I consider myself a massive TF nerd and knew a *lot* of what’s on this iceberg already but it’s always nice to learn things even I was never aware of^^

[@WarMachineMI]

Great job on the iceberg vid. Hope your channel blows up.

[@Pigpen_YT]

mfw I made a joke about how this video won't even remotely do as well as my CoD Iceberg video but it's outperformed it already. I'm already a couple entries done with the next iceberg. After that I'll probably be done with the genre....maybe. Anyways thanks for watching. Cannot believe over a thousand people said "okay, I'll watch this."

[@DishonoredSkull]

One more? Ah well you do you man. Just want to say thanks for the videos, they were very well done and loved your commentary. Hope you continue commentary-type of videos.

[@Pigpen_YT]

@@DishonoredSkull we shall see about more bergs. I am rather enjoying making this new one so there might be more idk. But 99% of my content will have commentary so don’t worry on that part

[@DishonoredSkull]

@@Pigpen_YT Glad to hear, plan to stick around anyway. Thanks man

[@Pigpen_YT]

this aged well

[@Battletron42]

Dude, this was awesome! I have been waiting for another transformers iceberg. But this is more i could ask for! Thank you 🙏

[@yuwu585]

somehow from this video I realized you're a panpizza fan

[@Pigpen_YT]

LOL, is it that obvious?

[@doodoofard69]

I'm convinced that Frenzy and Rumble can swap colours at will to troll the the fans

[@Darkclaw643]

Fantastic work on this man am surprised this is your first TF video because this video really shows how much you know and love the franchise and not just reading things off TFWiki, also I recommend Transformers Legends it’s a big love letter to the franchise (also alot of fan service)

[@tyrranide8708]

If you where to do a part 2, include; jaAm. It was a minicomic rewritten by a fan to be absurd. The JaAm meme became so big that there was a reference to it on a HotShot figure.

[@cavalierliberty6838]

I lIeK jaAm

[@thrashc1252]

Honestly MatPat being Computron is hilarious to me

[@svperior]

Thank you very much for all the effort put into this video, it was extremely nostalgic and entertaining from back to back. Knowing every aspect and fact mentioned in the video, really warmed my heart. Big shout out to you from Russia and many thanks!

[@writer_brook]

46:49 A fellow man of culture I see

[@RoseSupreme]

14:39 I agree. If Thundercracker became one of the reformatted lackeys, I think it makes sense for the other Seeker to get the same. Bombshell probably became part of the Sweeps.

[@ironrex6979]

In a convention they finally confirmed Skywarp > Cyclonus

[@sixsaber0039]

Sweet video, love a good iceberg. I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned this but @17:40 the purple seeker is named Hotlink and the blue one is named Bitstream, while Ion Storm (who also happens to be blue) and Nova Storm (who is a searing yellow) are not seen until later episodes along side Acid Storm as the Seeker unit the Rainmakers as you stated later on in the video.

[@mano7636]

yo this was actually a really fun video

[@bigbangrafa8435]

1:20:22 I actually just ended uo watching the SW video from RodimusPrimal that you mentioned. Would like that you elaborated more about the "reactionary" part, since I found the content to be perfectly resonable.

[@Pigpen_YT]

I didn’t say the video was, I said the thumbnail was very reactionary

[@daveholland6293]

@@Pigpen_YT Sorry bro, we should just stick to consuming product and getting excited for next prouduct to not be "problematic" right?

[@Pigpen_YT]

@@daveholland6293 yeah that’s what I said you got it Dave

[@daveholland6293]

@@Pigpen_YT What's going then big guy? Why the shilling for a multi billion dollar souless machine?

[@Pigpen_YT]

@@daveholland6293 yeah you got me. That’s what is going on. Yeah I’m a shill gg. I get paid by Disney

[@gankatack90210]

This was great, man. I didn't know half of these things! I hope your channel blows up bro.

[@optimascrime5235]

I got into this channel because of the Lego Iceberg video....And I'm so glad that this video is a thing because the one think I love more then Lego,StarWars and super hero's is Transfomers🤣🤟

[@astrozombiac3535]

Surprising they never did a trans tech series. It would be a goldmine for toy designs and a super cheap and effective way of releasing colored variants and flat out re releases of older figures. Not to mention the seemingly endless chances for fan service.

[@Keithchan2024]

In Cyberverse Tarn is a mass produced drone called Perfect Decepticon in the alternate universe of Megatron X

[@ironrex6979]

I was surprised how good that episode was. Extremely well handled.

[@fiorellagarcia3046]

This iceberg is interesting, especially the part of the last level.

[@CandyJackalope]

1:04:00 something else sad, most of them were killed off, the electric chair guy got his head ripped off :(

[@becca1chan8773]

Ah yes Scorponok's weird baby ... some evidence that James Roberts has a thing that's probably been there since he wrote Eugenesis. Though I'm surprised that Eugenesis isn't on here as it kind of serves as an origin of several parts of More Than Meets the Eye and Lost Light like Star Saber being evil and Rung.

[@endernightthedrokain1770]

The last bit in tier 5 was actually pretty chilling.

[@etabiansosin]

I love Chris Mcfreely's Videos. Very Educational and very entertaining.

[@MLPGamer44]

Havnt watched yet but the fact you’ve been making long ass video for awhile and not gotten a lot of returns for it, well... ALGORITHM GO BURRRR

[@PeterGriffin11]

So Geewun is pretty much the Transformers equivalent to A Genwunner in Pokémon.

[@Pigpen_YT]

yeah basically. Can't move on from the original

[@gavichealsomething2169]

Funnily enough Transformers coined the term

[@mechanwhal6590]

I resent their overly massive influence on things.

[@gavichealsomething2169]

@@mechanwhal6590 hmm?

[@ironrex6979]

@@mechanwhal6590 if it wasn’t because of them this series would be dead. I’m a Beast Wars/Armada guy but G1 fans are alright. I also like G1, Prime, Cyberverse, Combiner Wars trilogy, and Japan’s transformers continuity. Oh WfC duology and Devastation! It’s tragic we never got continuations for them.

[@TerminatorTheory]

*The Transformers vs. Terminator crossover comics were AWESOME*

[@uberkirbeeh7954]

1:06:17 Kiss Players did had few toys released in Japan. They were Optimus Prime, Hot Rod and Autotrooper, who came with human characters that were associated with them in the Kiss Players series.

[@Pigpen_YT]

I know. I showed them earlier in the video. I was talking about the sequel manga series Teletrann 1 Go Go or whatever it was called

[@uberkirbeeh7954]

@@Pigpen_YT I must have accidentally skipped over that part or I didn't focus on it when it was mention in the video, my bad.

[@Pigpen_YT]

@@uberkirbeeh7954 all good

[@jagerzaku9160]

I would have added that Kicker from Energon is a Gundam pilot, he shares the same English VA as the main protagonist of the original mobile suit Gundam and also wears a similar pilot suit

[@jvbutalid8316]

the main reason why bayverse is infamous for optimus prime's violence is revenge of the fallen. either the "give me your face" moment or the one where he kills that giant decepticon in shanghai

[@ironrex6979]

I never heard of that before I remember when the movie came out it was mixed. Fun movie but the critics hated it. I thought Dark Moon had the worse depiction.

[@jvbutalid8316]

@@ironrex6979 I forgot to put in a disclaimer that it's just my personal opinion. Personally I loved ROTF, it even gave me my favorite song New Divide. But still, the "give me your face" Prime really started in that movie. Every time he interacted with a Decepticon he brutalizes them. Compare that to the 07 film where, like, the only Decepticons he interacted with were Bonecrusher and Megatron. Yeah he killed Bonecrusher but come on, it's way tamer than even Scavenger, and that one's also tame compared to even the Forest Battle in ROTF. Heck, Megatron was the one who brutalized him in the 07 film. But yeah, FaceTimus Prime was only truly born in ROTF, even before the face moment

[@ironrex6979]

@@jvbutalid8316 You bring up a good point. I still enjoy TF 2007 & TF RotF movies, however I think ever since the first movie Optimus was depicted as brutally violent with the Bonecrusher scene. I always treated the live action verse as it’s own thing but I think Dark Moon Jumped the gun. That was when I realized this wasn’t Optimus. The rest of the movies after that (AOE, TLK, RotB) sort of toned him down back to 2007/RotF self but yeah he is still off. Well at least we got Bumblebee movie out of it.

[@matrixpictures7799]

alternate title: transformers the ultimate guide

[@flamedude6849]

actually, I can't remember who but you can look it up (I'm lazy) someone working on the film recently confirmed that Cyclonus is Skywarp, this is backed up because the bombshell that was in that scene has been confirmed to just be a clone, the same with the other insecticons in that scene, you can even see those same insecticons in the coronation scene.

[@Pigpen_YT]

I actually just rewatched the 86 film with my friend last weekend and noticed them there. Didn’t realize they were there. Though that could just be an animation error. Regardless Skywarp is my headcannon

[@flamedude6849]

@@Pigpen_YT as it should 👍

[@jetshot2218]

You know who else can be seen at that Coronation? Skywarp. And everyone else who got reformatted for that matter- they probably animated the scenes out of order and in earlier drafts of the film none of them got reformatted (instead the life sparks of ancient Decepticons were used). Oh, and the storyboards specified Bombshell became Cyclonus and although those aren't always reflective of the final film it kinda shows what the intent was. And what's so bad about being Cyclonus' Armada anyway?

[@flamedude6849]

@@jetshot2218 actually those characters are the rainmakers and hotlink, they look similar to skywarp and thundercracker but hotlink has way more purple than skywarp and one of the rainmakers is slightly darker than thundercracker. So no you're still wrong, and that storyboard stuff is mainly going to be an outline of the scene, but the plot always implied for skywarp to be cyclonus especially since the insecticons are also in season 3 of g1.

[@jetshot2218]

@@flamedude6849 Yeah... no, they're pretty clearly Thundercracker and Skywarp. They look nothing like Ion Storm and Hotlink anyway (who were only generics in 1986 anyway). They probably animated the scenes out of order, and were possibly affected by earlier drafts of the film where none of them got reformatted (instead the life sparks of ancient Decepticons were used, and Thundercracker and Skywarp die in Unicron's attack). As for the Insecticons being in season 3- the same thing with the early drafts also applies, plus AKOM aren't exactly known for the quality of their work. They aren't the only dead characters to turn up in Season 3. Oh, and the plot doesn't care who Cyclonus used be. He's just Cyclonus, and at no point is the fact that he used to be another character ever brought up in the G1 cartoon.

[@ktinga1]

24:07 Oh boy, all those years of only having a DS and playing War for Cybertron are finally about to pay off!!

[@ironrex6979]

Those were good DS games.

[@ktinga1]

@@ironrex6979 I wish I hadn't lost my old carts.

[@rexxo4957]

Fuck yeah! I hope the weirdness from the early comics are mentioned

[@javivaki]

I knew most of these thanks to my endless surfing through TFwiki, the best fan wiki in my opinion. Great vid btw.

[@Pigpen_YT]

By far the best wiki. Not even a contest. They actually know how to fun with the material they’re writing about

[@javivaki]

@@Pigpen_YT Yes that is very true. Especially the image captions. Also, easist wiki to navigate through. Friendly for people that are getting into Transformers.

[@themanwhowouldbebrick]

The only problem with it is there is a lot of spelling and grammar mistakes.

[@jesterssketchbook]

that Arcee's behind segment omfg lolololol

[@SebMegronski]

"I need a whopper, no cheese, no onions, extra pickles"

[@kalebj16003]

17:39 Their from to right are Sunstorm, Hotlink and Bitstream... Ion Storm and Nova Storm are the blue and yellow seekers from Divide and Conquer respectively.

[@apexarmada1419]

24:02 yo fam don’t talk down on my war for Cybertron DS like that the game is a masterpiece, jk great video and very informative I learned a lot about this great franchise today both the positive and the negative... anyway keep up the great work.

[@Pigpen_YT]

I've had like five comments tell me the War for Cybertron DS games were solid. I honestly didn't think anyone played them, good to know they're solid games tho. Thanks for enjoying!

[@jimmcgill5278]

Don’t F with us Transformers DS fans, there’s probably only 5 of us.

[@apexarmada1419]

@@Pigpen_YT yeah they were good games arguably some of the tie in movie DS transformers games were better then the movies themselves, but I wouldn’t blame you for thinking no one played them.

[@Pigpen_YT]

@@apexarmada1419 can I at least be safe in assuming nobody played the wii game Transformers: Cybertron Adventures which may or may not be canon to the aligned continuity

[@apexarmada1419]

@@Pigpen_YT oh yeah I forgot that game existed, it wasn’t bad (wasn’t great) but whenever I do play it I usually just want to play the console or the DS instead.

[@busterthejedi8446]

The Spider-Man crossover is an alternate universe (Earth-91274) from Earth-616, which also is canon to Marvel's G. I. Joe comics. This comic is usually cut from certain first volume TPBs, as well as Circuit Breaker (who is an original character created for the comic) & other things owned by Marvel, such as the Savage Land, with minor Marvel references being censored. Also, there was a DC/Transformers crossover comic in the works, but it was canceled due to The New 52 reboot. Certain ideas that would've been introduced included Optimus Prime becoming a Green Lantern (move over, Daffy Duck!) & Wonder Woman's Invisible Jet becoming a Transformer. Diamondbolt actually brought this up in his Transformers Crossovers video.

[@nopetrainconductor9840]

I could never forget tidlewaves theme

[@thayenryan7448]

On the subject of the Go-Bots, if I remember right there was a good guy Go-Bot named Leader-1. Well, if anyone has watched Transformers Armada, you’d recognize Optimus’ minicon partner is named Leader-1. Thought that was neat.

[@person14876]

That’s megatron partner not Optimus’s

[@ComodinCam]

I swear I already commented on this video but thank you for the mention! I knew there was an audience for the occisonal shit post! great video impressive!

[@doubt3430]

That's a good idea actually Unicron being that unknown planet far out in the outer reaches of the system slowly on his way here And that he's the reason why we don't have any form of contact with other life